+EpicGamingRevolution What the fuck are you talking about? Konosuba's second season was great and it was full of really fun purposefully goofy animation mixed in with actually super strong moments of genuinely great animation when the series needed it. I know that comedy's subjective, but the gags were well done and in-character and it all came together in an actually solid finale that made sense while also being an amazing joke about how much Kazuma assumes about the world because of RPG logic. Like how can anyone hate that, lol! +ThePikachuVirus If SAO was just constant action and the story and characters just existed to further the fight scenes, then they might be able to get away with that. But it's not. It's a series full of exposition and rape scenes on characters you're meant to care about and weird shippings with the fucking married MC that people are meant to be invested in even though it's stupidly obvious that it's not going to go anywhere. It would be one thing if you were talking about just a flashy over-the-top action game type of thing where stuff is just constantly exploding and looking cool, but that's not what SAO's trying to be. Instead, it's trying to be an intellectual series where people die and where the viewer's forced to face the nuances of what is real and what role games play, but because the series isn't nearly smart enough to actually CARRY OUT those conversations or make actually appealing characters, you just end up with mostly wish fulfillment schlock ft. a dark or pretentious moment every now and then before Kirito just wins against whatever's happening because he's apparently the only competent gamer in existence ever.
+EpicGamingRevolution Wow, you're really uninformed. So you can look any of this up because it's just out there for anyone to see, but the series isn't specifically canceled and the reason why it's suspended is because the writer wanted to promote the light novels to people who were invested in the story. It has nothing to do with popularity. In fact, it's kind-of the opposite case since Konosuba's Light Novel was the second best selling Light Novel in 2016, which means that people liked the series so much that it drove up book sales drastically because people were desperate for more content. Since that's the case, it means that there's actually a huge possibility of there being a third season once the excitement trails off a bit because, then, the author would want to bring the show back to advertise his series more and the series's creator has even gone on the record practically admitting this by basically saying "I would be open to work with them in future collaborations". If the series wasn't popular and was just the huge failure you're trying to claim it is, then he wouldn't want to continue working with these people, sales WOULDN'T be up, and there probably WOULD NOT be so many anime reviewers and people in the community singing the series's praise and talking about how great it is.
It's baffling how two people could hate something so passionately and in the end still not be friends. Hatred should pull us together not tear us apart.
unfortunately that seems to be the case. tho we really don’t know for sure as we weren’t there. if you really wanna know go look it up on google and you’ll find an answer
As far as change is concerned, SAO Abridged is the epitome of abridged series because they literally managed to turn shit into gold while fixing so many plotholes and inconsistencies that it's not even funny. Even shit the anime didn't even notice like the dual-ax guy being a thing even though Dual Wielding is supposed to be a special unique skill.
I remember the first time i ever watched SAO, I saw the halfway decent first bunch of episodes before quickly realizing how bad it was gonna get. I stopped there, haven't regretted it yet, and probably won't ever. On a related but still somewhat unrelated note, it's quite funny how much UA-cam despises SAO, i mean, it is a terrible anime, but it's pretty funny to see how much views spike for some channels when they post videos about how much SAO sucks, despite those videos usually being the exact sames points rehashed from some other video on the subject. It's an easy way to get that UA-cam money , i guess.
It's a popular series that's actually kind-of fascinating to examine because it was hyped up super hard by people who were incredibly engaged in the first few episodes and then didn't want to admit the show was going downhill or that it had problems because they were pushing it so hard that if they did a 180 it would effect their personal credibility. It's also in the weird position where it's managed to gain a hate culture around it ever since the end of the first season, but since then it managed to complete another season, turn out a movie, and now a third season's on the way, meaning that as much as people shit on SAO it's still relevant and it's still bringing new problems to the table specifically for people to shit on. It's literally the reviewing gift that's easy to talk about and just keeps on giving people more and more material as time goes on. I mean, it's kind-of like if you knew a series was going to be complete trash after the first film, like, say, the Emoji movie actually did make its trilogy or something. So after Emoji's 1, you go into Emoji's 2 expecting a shitshow and you laugh at it and have fun and everyone talks about how bad it is. Then Emoji's 3 comes out and it's just as bad and everyone does their reviews and stuff, it gains a weird cult fanbase to try and counteract the people against it but they never gain much of a presence. And then Emoji Movie 4 is announced and everyone's just like "Why the fuck!?" and the cycle continues.
ThePikachuvirus if i want pretty moving pictures, there's any number of places i can find those. if i want good stories, they're as numerous as stars in the sky. if i want pretty pictures AND a good story? that'll take some digging. some aspects of a show can carry it, some aspects can flat out ruin it. the quality of the dialogue generally won't crush a show provided it's carried by its concepts and world. but a bad story? if the story bores or disgusts me, i don't care how pretty it looks, your ass is getting dropped.
SAO's definitely a show with good aesthetics behind it, solid animation, good music, etc. But those are things that don't really come from any specific thing about the story itself, they're just things the show happened to get because A1 threw a lot of money at it.... Money that honestly could have easily gone to A LOT of much better projects, honestly. But even then, while it looks nice, the visuals aren't anything outstanding. They're definitely nowhere near Mob Psycho 100 or One Punch Man (both infinitely better shows) and I wouldn't even really say they top Konosuba, honestly. And compared to My Hero Academia, there's just no contest, MHA just looks better and has better animated sequences. You could say it's better animated than Jojos, and it probably is, but there's just so much to the designs of Jojos that it's honestly no surprise that the animation isn't that crazy most of the time and then it's like you can't beat the Jojo's soundtrack because it's just that consistently good. So I feel like a lot of people don't mention the aesthetics mainly because they're not really amazing enough to save the series when you start digging into how they stack up to other anime coming out right now.
Going on like a year after I commented, I think I have a much better way to phrase the SAO hate train: For something to be widely despised, it has to be able to get an audience first. Like the most well-known dumpster fires aren't the things that just pop up out of nowhere from nothing and are just shit, they're the things that get people interested with a good trailer or a connection to something nostalgic or well known and then they REVEAL themselves to be shit afterwards!
I was at Walmart in Mississippi and i see this hick weeb dork wearing kiritos jacket, i never wanted to put the pedal to the metal until that moment happened
Ok, so, my friend is OBSSESSED, with SAO, and Log Horizon, and constantly says that they're the best things to exist ever, *literally just because they're about MMOs*. Like he doesn't care that everyone fucking sucks, or the whole RIDDEN WITH INCEST thing, nah apparently being an MMO show is fine enough. I seriously just....no.
We need better MMO-based series. Which is a weird thing to say because being trapped in a game is already a plot that's been done quite a bit, just not in anime or to completion. Also, your friend needs to re-evaluate his life because that's kind-of like saying "I only like shows with motorcycles in them" or something.
If you think SAO is good, you need to be honest with yourself and admit that you just like flashy animations with terrible substance. It's okay to like it, but you need to be honest with everyone.
Season one was pretty good, I thought, with exploring all the game functions and all. But then they get out of the game and into a new one, and instead of having fun exploring the ins and outs of this new and exciting world, you get a weird incest plotline and elf fanservice.
Benett Malcolm they don't even show gaming communities right, the only thing that was captured right about video games and communities was the number of ugly neet weeaboos who play girl characters when they turned back into their own selves.
@@FriezaSucks Except because it's anime they weren't even really ugly, just a bunch of normal looking bland anime guys who happened to choose pink outfits, lol! Because god forbid someone gets catfished in a life-or-death MMO murder game. And then the next arc comes up and somehow it ISN'T just overflowing with FF14 levels of catgirls everywhere? SAO: 0/10, why aren't 70+% of players fur waifus.
I'm ashamed to admit it took me until the part where they return to not-sao to their old home and realize, "wow, nothing about this has been worthwhile nor interesting and more asinine and investing into"
Stuck in a videogame anime plotlines are absurdly boring to me honestly. Like I don't like online games and I hate battle anime cliche's and just anime cliche's in general, so I feel like this one would infuriate me.
I just never got into SAO in the beginning, and then everyone started saying it was shitty, so I feel that I made the right choice.
i stopped after like 8 episodes of watching while playing FF14
Master Markus lol man same here, then i started watching "Is it wrong to pick up girls in dungeons" and now I never want to even know SAO.
Olso dint because I hate how everyone looks
I hate that style of anime really hard I hate how Kiriko, or wat ever the fuck, looks they all suck
Same. I hadn't seen it, then heard about it.
Same, I watched the abridged version though and its pretty great.
"The government sends him back in to solve mmo murders."
The Evil Within 2?
Reki Kawahara is the David Cage of light novels.
Denzel Mason
I don’t know. I heard Reki doesn’t think his stuff is particularly good.
Edit: Clarification on who I was talking about
He made da BAD book
Having offensive fan service is a failure of the game designer
Is it wrong that I want an entire podcast of them shitting on sao?
Xanegoh we all do...
Yea and then we need them to get all hype for sao abridged
SAO is a cringe-fest, infested with every single anime cliche known to man. And featuring hardcore disgusting fan-service to boot! what's not to love!
A painting smeared with shit and piss is still just a painting smeared with shit and piss.
ThePikachuvirus Animation didn't save konosuba season 2 from the shitzone.
+EpicGamingRevolution
What the fuck are you talking about? Konosuba's second season was great and it was full of really fun purposefully goofy animation mixed in with actually super strong moments of genuinely great animation when the series needed it. I know that comedy's subjective, but the gags were well done and in-character and it all came together in an actually solid finale that made sense while also being an amazing joke about how much Kazuma assumes about the world because of RPG logic. Like how can anyone hate that, lol!
+ThePikachuVirus
If SAO was just constant action and the story and characters just existed to further the fight scenes, then they might be able to get away with that. But it's not. It's a series full of exposition and rape scenes on characters you're meant to care about and weird shippings with the fucking married MC that people are meant to be invested in even though it's stupidly obvious that it's not going to go anywhere.
It would be one thing if you were talking about just a flashy over-the-top action game type of thing where stuff is just constantly exploding and looking cool, but that's not what SAO's trying to be. Instead, it's trying to be an intellectual series where people die and where the viewer's forced to face the nuances of what is real and what role games play, but because the series isn't nearly smart enough to actually CARRY OUT those conversations or make actually appealing characters, you just end up with mostly wish fulfillment schlock ft. a dark or pretentious moment every now and then before Kirito just wins against whatever's happening because he's apparently the only competent gamer in existence ever.
dracocrusher Obviously a lot of people could hate on that seeing as they cancelled the show.
+EpicGamingRevolution
Wow, you're really uninformed. So you can look any of this up because it's just out there for anyone to see, but the series isn't specifically canceled and the reason why it's suspended is because the writer wanted to promote the light novels to people who were invested in the story. It has nothing to do with popularity. In fact, it's kind-of the opposite case since Konosuba's Light Novel was the second best selling Light Novel in 2016, which means that people liked the series so much that it drove up book sales drastically because people were desperate for more content.
Since that's the case, it means that there's actually a huge possibility of there being a third season once the excitement trails off a bit because, then, the author would want to bring the show back to advertise his series more and the series's creator has even gone on the record practically admitting this by basically saying "I would be open to work with them in future collaborations".
If the series wasn't popular and was just the huge failure you're trying to claim it is, then he wouldn't want to continue working with these people, sales WOULDN'T be up, and there probably WOULD NOT be so many anime reviewers and people in the community singing the series's praise and talking about how great it is.
It's baffling how two people could hate something so passionately and in the end still not be friends.
Hatred should pull us together not tear us apart.
liam and pat arent friends?
unfortunately that seems to be the case. tho we really don’t know for sure as we weren’t there. if you really wanna know go look it up on google and you’ll find an answer
@@attackofthecopyrightbotsnot anymore apparently
Sao abridged by something witty actually turns this shitstorm into a very well written show. check it
As far as change is concerned, SAO Abridged is the epitome of abridged series because they literally managed to turn shit into gold while fixing so many plotholes and inconsistencies that it's not even funny. Even shit the anime didn't even notice like the dual-ax guy being a thing even though Dual Wielding is supposed to be a special unique skill.
Some guys shit on SAO
And in other news, water is wet.
technically its not the water thats wet, wet is the condition of having water stick to you outside of a body of water
And ice is cold
I miss these guys 😭😭😭😭
I remember the first time i ever watched SAO, I saw the halfway decent first bunch of episodes before quickly realizing how bad it was gonna get. I stopped there, haven't regretted it yet, and probably won't ever.
On a related but still somewhat unrelated note, it's quite funny how much UA-cam despises SAO, i mean, it is a terrible anime, but it's pretty funny to see how much views spike for some channels when they post videos about how much SAO sucks, despite those videos usually being the exact sames points rehashed from some other video on the subject.
It's an easy way to get that UA-cam money , i guess.
It's a popular series that's actually kind-of fascinating to examine because it was hyped up super hard by people who were incredibly engaged in the first few episodes and then didn't want to admit the show was going downhill or that it had problems because they were pushing it so hard that if they did a 180 it would effect their personal credibility.
It's also in the weird position where it's managed to gain a hate culture around it ever since the end of the first season, but since then it managed to complete another season, turn out a movie, and now a third season's on the way, meaning that as much as people shit on SAO it's still relevant and it's still bringing new problems to the table specifically for people to shit on. It's literally the reviewing gift that's easy to talk about and just keeps on giving people more and more material as time goes on.
I mean, it's kind-of like if you knew a series was going to be complete trash after the first film, like, say, the Emoji movie actually did make its trilogy or something. So after Emoji's 1, you go into Emoji's 2 expecting a shitshow and you laugh at it and have fun and everyone talks about how bad it is. Then Emoji's 3 comes out and it's just as bad and everyone does their reviews and stuff, it gains a weird cult fanbase to try and counteract the people against it but they never gain much of a presence. And then Emoji Movie 4 is announced and everyone's just like "Why the fuck!?" and the cycle continues.
ThePikachuvirus if i want pretty moving pictures, there's any number of places i can find those. if i want good stories, they're as numerous as stars in the sky. if i want pretty pictures AND a good story? that'll take some digging.
some aspects of a show can carry it, some aspects can flat out ruin it. the quality of the dialogue generally won't crush a show provided it's carried by its concepts and world. but a bad story? if the story bores or disgusts me, i don't care how pretty it looks, your ass is getting dropped.
SAO's definitely a show with good aesthetics behind it, solid animation, good music, etc. But those are things that don't really come from any specific thing about the story itself, they're just things the show happened to get because A1 threw a lot of money at it.... Money that honestly could have easily gone to A LOT of much better projects, honestly.
But even then, while it looks nice, the visuals aren't anything outstanding. They're definitely nowhere near Mob Psycho 100 or One Punch Man (both infinitely better shows) and I wouldn't even really say they top Konosuba, honestly. And compared to My Hero Academia, there's just no contest, MHA just looks better and has better animated sequences. You could say it's better animated than Jojos, and it probably is, but there's just so much to the designs of Jojos that it's honestly no surprise that the animation isn't that crazy most of the time and then it's like you can't beat the Jojo's soundtrack because it's just that consistently good.
So I feel like a lot of people don't mention the aesthetics mainly because they're not really amazing enough to save the series when you start digging into how they stack up to other anime coming out right now.
Going on like a year after I commented, I think I have a much better way to phrase the SAO hate train:
For something to be widely despised, it has to be able to get an audience first. Like the most well-known dumpster fires aren't the things that just pop up out of nowhere from nothing and are just shit, they're the things that get people interested with a good trailer or a connection to something nostalgic or well known and then they REVEAL themselves to be shit afterwards!
I want a realistic take on the .Hack/SAO/Spy Kids 3 set up where people are trapped in a game from the perspective of the people outside.
Wasn't that basically that news series in .Hack G.U. where that goofy journalist goes to investigate the kids getting brain melted inside the game?
I was at Walmart in Mississippi and i see this hick weeb dork wearing kiritos jacket, i never wanted to put the pedal to the metal until that moment happened
I saw a girl wearing a full naruto costume in a dollar plus last year
She was clearly a stupid teenager so i let it slide
Ok, so, my friend is OBSSESSED, with SAO, and Log Horizon, and constantly says that they're the best things to exist ever, *literally just because they're about MMOs*. Like he doesn't care that everyone fucking sucks, or the whole RIDDEN WITH INCEST thing, nah apparently being an MMO show is fine enough. I seriously just....no.
WungoBongoVA Tom but Log Horizon is actually good though..
Fogman log horizon is pretty boring
...you need a new friend.
We need better MMO-based series. Which is a weird thing to say because being trapped in a game is already a plot that's been done quite a bit, just not in anime or to completion. Also, your friend needs to re-evaluate his life because that's kind-of like saying "I only like shows with motorcycles in them" or something.
Incest is great though
i saw the .hack anime long ago so i had no interest to watch SOA or stuck in an mmo story
SAO Abridged fixes everything.
Better days
I went down the same path. Watched SAO, enjoyed it, then fucking hated it to the pitted core after season 2
If you think SAO is good, you need to be honest with yourself and admit that you just like flashy animations with terrible substance. It's okay to like it, but you need to be honest with everyone.
Season one was pretty good, I thought, with exploring all the game functions and all. But then they get out of the game and into a new one, and instead of having fun exploring the ins and outs of this new and exciting world, you get a weird incest plotline and elf fanservice.
Benett Malcolm they don't even show gaming communities right, the only thing that was captured right about video games and communities was the number of ugly neet weeaboos who play girl characters when they turned back into their own selves.
@@FriezaSucks
Except because it's anime they weren't even really ugly, just a bunch of normal looking bland anime guys who happened to choose pink outfits, lol! Because god forbid someone gets catfished in a life-or-death MMO murder game. And then the next arc comes up and somehow it ISN'T just overflowing with FF14 levels of catgirls everywhere?
SAO: 0/10, why aren't 70+% of players fur waifus.
What if you wanted to stream your GEAR VR game on twitch?
I'm ashamed to admit it took me until the part where they return to not-sao to their old home and realize, "wow, nothing about this has been worthwhile nor interesting and more asinine and investing into"
F
Clearly overlord is the better of the two
I tapped out at the beater speech in ep1. Cringe AF
Stuck in a videogame anime plotlines are absurdly boring to me honestly. Like I don't like online games and I hate battle anime cliche's and just anime cliche's in general, so I feel like this one would infuriate me.
SaO was fine. Cmon though!