I'm an Ex-Mormon living in Utah, so I absolutely loved it. Also, it's worth noting that Sophie Thatcher and Chloe East are both Ex-Mormons in real life, which is probably why they seemed so authentic.
I'm a non-practicing Mormon and I loved the movie too. I don't know about you but there were a few things they got wrong but overall I loved the movie. I honestly didn't know they are ex-Mormons in real life. Makes me wonder if they are old enough that they did their mission before they left the church
I think it’s a wonderful study of the way that those who are controlled are aware of their controllers and learn how to appease and manipulate them back. The sisters demonstrate fabulous dissembling, protecting themselves by appearing less intelligent than they really are. Folks seem to disagree about how happy the sisters were to talk to Mr Reed in the 2nd room. I have heard folks say that they seemed to want to engage in the debate. I would argue that this is a prime example of guarding your true feelings to protect yourself against a malicious controlling force.
Great analysis , also felt that grants character Mr. Reed could see through the lack of intelligence the 2 girls were showing. To me he knew they were a lot more intelligent than they were portraying
I will see this for sure. Any kind of a creepy religious theme is always intriguing. One that kind of flew under the radar that i highly recommend would be St. Maud.
Might be my favorite movie of the year so far. Positives: Love the questions raised by grants character and the metaphors and analogies he uses. But also how the film looks at all angles and flaws in each characters thinking. Certain aspects of the film reminded me of a certain French film and if you’ve seen that French film you would know. Mixed: Some of the character decisions were questionable but weren’t a huge issue to get a negative for me. Negatives: The intro of this movie just did not work for me and the jokes didn’t land at all. So if you take that out pretty much a faultless film.
@@loganz20939 one negative I had was that one shot with the girl running through the scale model at the end. It felt really out of place stylistically, and I suspect it only existed to be put in the trailer. Also, I agree with the humor in the first scene being awkward and not really landing. It's also absurd that two Mormon missionaries would be openly talking about pornography considering the religion has a total zero tolerance policy for watching it (like, missionaries are often sent home if their caught viewing it).
@@LockeDemosthenes2 yeah agreed on the joking in the intro. Felt it was really out of place and didn’t work at all. Was a bad start for a film that would be discussing pretty serious topics.
I completely agree with you. I'm a non-practicing Mormon and I enjoyed the movie. There were a few things they got wrong but overall it was a really good movie. I have spoken to a few missionaries about the movie and tbh they think it's wrong that they have done this movie as they think it's disrespectful, which I disagree with them as the movie isn't just looking at mormons but all religions
@LockeDemosthenes2 I completely agree with you. Missionaries would never openly talk about porn, especially when they are looking for new people to talk to and convert. They also got a few things wrong as well as this.
Thank you for reminding me of 'a certain French film'. When I posted my favorite religious themed movies I had forgotten that one because I don't own it but yeah! That one! lol
I plan to see it this weekend so happy to know it's Chris-approved®. I just watched The Substance and I need a palate cleanser. I'm so traumatized, now every time I see a puddle, I’m like, 'Nope, not today, creepy goo!'
I wouldn’t say this is like Dan Brown at all. He used fantastical conspiracy elements to create page turners. This is written much more smartly. This is much more of a think piece with horror elements and while I am still a person of faith, this didn’t insult me; it has multiple layers one can analyze. I was never scared, I just always wanted to see what happened next.
My favorite religious themed movies, in no particular order: Mother, Saint Maude, Heretic and the comedic curveball among them "The Invention of Lying"...oh and Martyrs! I had forgotten that one until someone in the comments section 'hinted' at it and I was like "A-ha! yes!" lol
Third time was the charm and was able to see this movie. I thought it was fantastic. I did get in trouble halfway through because i made a I disagree comment and said what it actually was, which turned out to be the whole plot point. Plus, I watched Games that built America on Netflix, so that stuff wasn't new either. 😂😂 But even with the the thoughts and ideas that were raosed here were nothing new....the way they wrote this and directed this made it thought-provoking. The tense conversations made me squirm a bit, on edge to what was about to happen. This i thought was done better and was more psychologically thrilling than Longlegs by a mile.
As a non-practicing Mormon, I loved the movie, they got a few things wrong but it's worth a watch. I have spoken to a few missionaries about it and they find it very disrespectful, I tried explaining that they do not just talk about Mormons they talk about other religions too. I didn't tell them about the opening scene as they didn't need to know about that. Missionaries wouldn't talk about porn out in the open especially when they are out talking to people to try to get new members. I know they are sat on a bench talking but still, they wouldn't be doing that. There are other things they got wrong but its worth a watch.
I know alot of people Hated it but I loved Nefarious and I actually liked The Exorcist Believer and Russell crow's the Popes Exorcist the First omen and Saint Maude !
Not too much horror(ific) stuff Chris...? Mrs loves serial psycho shows, so I might have terrify myself through this one for her, eh. In recent years, I really enjoyed Risen, and Messiah. Such a shame the second one didn't get a season 2...
I think the aggravating decisions of the characters is part of the point, that be it because you’re a woman or for religious reasons we don’t listen to gut instincts and that’s where we go wrong.
Wikipedia put it best: Heretic is a psychological horror. You have a man who plays games with the young women, breaking them to the point where they have no choice but to do as he tells them despite it seeming he let them choose.
I'm an Ex-Mormon living in Utah, so I absolutely loved it. Also, it's worth noting that Sophie Thatcher and Chloe East are both Ex-Mormons in real life, which is probably why they seemed so authentic.
Oh wow this film definitely relates to you then lol . Never knew that about the 2 girl characters makes sense
I'm a non-practicing Mormon and I loved the movie too. I don't know about you but there were a few things they got wrong but overall I loved the movie. I honestly didn't know they are ex-Mormons in real life. Makes me wonder if they are old enough that they did their mission before they left the church
reeeeally?! That sounds ...woow!
I'm an active Mormon and I loved it
Ex Mormon on Asia 🙋🏻♀️
I think it’s a wonderful study of the way that those who are controlled are aware of their controllers and learn how to appease and manipulate them back. The sisters demonstrate fabulous dissembling, protecting themselves by appearing less intelligent than they really are.
Folks seem to disagree about how happy the sisters were to talk to Mr Reed in the 2nd room. I have heard folks say that they seemed to want to engage in the debate. I would argue that this is a prime example of guarding your true feelings to protect yourself against a malicious controlling force.
Great analysis , also felt that grants character Mr. Reed could see through the lack of intelligence the 2 girls were showing. To me he knew they were a lot more intelligent than they were portraying
Why do people think you have to be non religious or ex Mormon only to like this? I'm active and I absolutely loved it.
Saint Maud. An intense, character-driven look at religious obsession.
Poor Maud. She needed therapy. 😢😂🤷♀️😱
I haven't seen this, but a thought provoking horror/religious themed movie is frailty. Also has a great proformance from Mathew McConaughey.
Try to imagine Mathew McConaughey playing Mr. Reed.
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One of my favorite religious horror films is Saint Maude. Heretic was great too, but I did like the first hour more than the last.
I will see this for sure. Any kind of a creepy religious theme is always intriguing. One that kind of flew under the radar that i highly recommend would be St. Maud.
That ending of St. Maud!!
Definitely worth a watch. I went not to sure if I would like it or not, especially when I'm a non-practicing Mormon but I really enjoyed it.
@@MoviesAndMunchies I own Saint Maude. For the ending! lol
Might be my favorite movie of the year so far.
Positives: Love the questions raised by grants character and the metaphors and analogies he uses. But also how the film looks at all angles and flaws in each characters thinking.
Certain aspects of the film reminded me of a certain French film and if you’ve seen that French film you would know.
Mixed:
Some of the character decisions were questionable but weren’t a huge issue to get a negative for me.
Negatives:
The intro of this movie just did not work for me and the jokes didn’t land at all. So if you take that out pretty much a faultless film.
@@loganz20939 one negative I had was that one shot with the girl running through the scale model at the end. It felt really out of place stylistically, and I suspect it only existed to be put in the trailer.
Also, I agree with the humor in the first scene being awkward and not really landing. It's also absurd that two Mormon missionaries would be openly talking about pornography considering the religion has a total zero tolerance policy for watching it (like, missionaries are often sent home if their caught viewing it).
@@LockeDemosthenes2 yeah agreed on the joking in the intro. Felt it was really out of place and didn’t work at all. Was a bad start for a film that would be discussing pretty serious topics.
I completely agree with you. I'm a non-practicing Mormon and I enjoyed the movie. There were a few things they got wrong but overall it was a really good movie. I have spoken to a few missionaries about the movie and tbh they think it's wrong that they have done this movie as they think it's disrespectful, which I disagree with them as the movie isn't just looking at mormons but all religions
@LockeDemosthenes2 I completely agree with you. Missionaries would never openly talk about porn, especially when they are looking for new people to talk to and convert. They also got a few things wrong as well as this.
Thank you for reminding me of 'a certain French film'. When I posted my favorite religious themed movies I had forgotten that one because I don't own it but yeah! That one! lol
I'm LDS and looking forward to checking this one out great review; thanks!
@@dinocollins720 did you manage to watch it?
I plan to see it this weekend so happy to know it's Chris-approved®. I just watched The Substance and I need a palate cleanser. I'm so traumatized, now every time I see a puddle, I’m like, 'Nope, not today, creepy goo!'
Hahahaha! Yes, The Substance leaves quite the impression!!
I wouldn’t say this is like Dan Brown at all. He used fantastical conspiracy elements to create page turners.
This is written much more smartly. This is much more of a think piece with horror elements and while I am still a person of faith, this didn’t insult me; it has multiple layers one can analyze.
I was never scared, I just always wanted to see what happened next.
My favorite religious themed movies, in no particular order: Mother, Saint Maude, Heretic and the comedic curveball among them "The Invention of Lying"...oh and Martyrs! I had forgotten that one until someone in the comments section 'hinted' at it and I was like "A-ha! yes!" lol
Walked out. What could have been an awesome movie just got super heavy handed. The missionaries were great
Why would you think that? I'm not being disrespectful or anything I'm just curious on your thoughts
Well it looks Heavy handed from the Trailer but I still want to see it 😂
@@rustyshackleford6035 I thought the same when I saw the trailer but it's definitely worth a watch
I agree with you about Hugh. I need more of this !!
Thank you for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The first third of the movie was very compelling and then went downhill for me.
Same for me.
I must watch this!!!
Every time I watch a kooky movie I always hope this guy has already watched it. So I can get an explanation!! 😎
Third time was the charm and was able to see this movie. I thought it was fantastic. I did get in trouble halfway through because i made a I disagree comment and said what it actually was, which turned out to be the whole plot point. Plus, I watched Games that built America on Netflix, so that stuff wasn't new either. 😂😂
But even with the the thoughts and ideas that were raosed here were nothing new....the way they wrote this and directed this made it thought-provoking. The tense conversations made me squirm a bit, on edge to what was about to happen. This i thought was done better and was more psychologically thrilling than Longlegs by a mile.
So glad you finally got to see it!!
As a non-practicing Mormon, I loved the movie, they got a few things wrong but it's worth a watch.
I have spoken to a few missionaries about it and they find it very disrespectful, I tried explaining that they do not just talk about Mormons they talk about other religions too.
I didn't tell them about the opening scene as they didn't need to know about that. Missionaries wouldn't talk about porn out in the open especially when they are out talking to people to try to get new members. I know they are sat on a bench talking but still, they wouldn't be doing that. There are other things they got wrong but its worth a watch.
I'm not surprised Mormons would be offended by this. I'd be surprised if they weren't. That's the point though clearly.
Many of my lds friends all loved it.
@wesleywhite4782 I'm glad they do, i like the fact that the flim isn't just about lds but all religions.
Great video! Thank you.
I know alot of people Hated it but I loved Nefarious and I actually liked The Exorcist Believer and Russell crow's the Popes Exorcist the First omen and Saint Maude !
I enjoyed the movie id give it 7/10
9.5 from me
@@curzonproductSame, 9.5
Frailty
Goat movie
Not too much horror(ific) stuff Chris...? Mrs loves serial psycho shows, so I might have terrify myself through this one for her, eh.
In recent years, I really enjoyed Risen, and Messiah. Such a shame the second one didn't get a season 2...
Messiah was so great! Totally agree that it should have continued!
Great video. Dropped a sub 💯💯🇮🇪🇮🇪
Oddly loved Grant, Thatcher and East in their respective performances. It was the horror angle that I thought was pretty weak.
I think the aggravating decisions of the characters is part of the point, that be it because you’re a woman or for religious reasons we don’t listen to gut instincts and that’s where we go wrong.
Nice
I like Angels in America
Screw Heretic, check out that Eat Cheese t-shirt😍!
😂🤣🧀
Agnes of God
Exorcism of Emily Rose, by far the best religious horror imo.
Did you just ruin the surprise ending of this movie with your intro?
Gangs of New York i felt was a very religious movie in many ways
If Hughes character is what total atheistic “realism” is then give me religion “control” every time lol
This movie is not horror at all so if that what youre looking for youre looking at the wrong direction.
Not conventional horror, for sure. But still pretty horrific!!
@ it’s cause i’ve seen a comment saying how they were expecting it to be like ‘the terrifier’ 🤣
Wikipedia put it best: Heretic is a psychological horror. You have a man who plays games with the young women, breaking them to the point where they have no choice but to do as he tells them despite it seeming he let them choose.
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Hereditary is a better film by astrological measurements.
Good thing they didn't knock on Diddy's door 😱