Things I HATE about my Porsche 993 | EP046
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2017
- Sadly, the last drive in my 1997 Porsche Carrera 4S of the 2017 driving season here in Toronto, Canada. Join me, as I go for a quick drive around town and tell you the FIVE (5) things I hate about my Porsche 993 after 6 years of ownership. Let me know what you think in the comments!
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After driving many different generations of air cooled Porsches, I have to agree. With a close second to the 964 as far as a nice balance of modern and vintage. Thank you for tuning in! I hope you watched the 5 thing I LOVE about the car video I posted before this one :)
Great video Jakob! There are loads of videos that sing the praises of air-cooled Porsches so it's cool to see you honestly address some issues you have with the ownership experience. Also don't worry so much about the patina, your 993 looks great.
Thanks Jack!! Yeah, just had to do this since I did a 5 things I love..too much love on the channel haha. Cheers bud
I never noticed cars as I lived in nyc but I was in San Francisco in 2001 and was driving behind a 993 turbo and thought it was the most beautiful car ever. I had never even seen one and that was three years after they stopped making them. I still remember that moment like it was yesterday. It took another ten years for me to google it and find out what that car was and also realized it was an air cooled 911.
Thanks for watching! It's true, the shape and look of this car is just perfect :)
Love your vids! Content is always 👌🏻
Thank you Rock Class 101 :)
Really enjoy your videos man! You are so passionate about your car and 993s and I understand they are just so nice. I also understand your views. I actually feel lucky because I had my first 911s before the market exploded so although I didn’t make 100% on the cars I sell both for the same money I bought them and I actually just used them as daily drivers because the people who inspired me back in the day had them to travel and enjoy them. I drove the heck out of them as I do with the 996 c4s I currently have. I’ve always bought at the low end of the value curve in order not to garage queen the cars. I do pamper my current 911 more especially keeping it as well maintained mechanically as I can, that’s also my budget and experience in that aching pains in Porsche’s tend to cost more in the long run...having said that I bought an AWD comfortable 911 so I can drive it throughout Spain and all season enjoying the alps and other excursions. Your 993 4s also has great awd and can handle all year around driving as long as you regularly hose it down for salt and other grunge. I strongly recommend that as soon as you can you repaint and clean up the car for stone chips etc and then ceramic coat it, you can do it yourself...it will help you keep it clean (even small stones) you just hose it down every time you drive it, that way you’ll feel like you’ve protected your baby but you can enjoy it more ! These cars are awesome and deserve to be on the roads. Keep up the videos and thanks again !
Thanks for watching Pablo, and for taking the time to write your comment. Thank you for understanding my perspective in this video!! I am getting so much heat about these "negatives" that I talk about, I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the points. Above all, I LOVE this car very much. I hope you get back into an air cooled 911 soon! I agree, they need to be driven and enjoyed! Take care!
Nice video. As a 993 owner I completely agree with your sentiments.
Hey Jakob - Mike here in ATL. .. Swapped the gearbox in the coupe ('98 993 C2S) back in year 2000. .. This lower gearing used in '95 and '96 993 production years truly wakes up the car... Keep your '97 C4S. .. Change SAI check valve every 30K miles ...my $.02 .. Cheers, M/S
Sweet! Good to know! A re-gear is on my list one day :)
I've got my '96 993 and it's my 4th Porsche, first air-cooled though... And I will never go back to water-cooled one again..! Great vid, I appreciate your honesty and criticism, sometimes it's hard to admit certain things to yourself! Regards!
Thanks for watching! Take care! :)
Jakob wonderfully put together!! Enjoy Texas!!
Thank you!!!
this car is just perfect. I love your great light setting and the light reflections on the car
Thanks for watching Leon! Take care! :)
Totally agree on vintage performance!!! I had a '78 911SC. Whenever people ask how I like it, I tell them it's a great 70's car. ;)
hahaha..that's a great response to people..I'm going to start saying it's 90s performance! :)
Love your videos, I have a 964 which I do feel the same with you sometimes
Thank you so much!! Glad to hear it makes sense! I don't ever "stress" about these things, but I do think about them sometimes... Thank you for watching! Take care!
As a 993 owner, I’m glad I’m not alone in feeling these same things about the car. Would not trade it for the world though. Great video!
Nice! Glad to read that this resonated with you.. I was nervous talking about this stuff and put on a super thick flame suit this afternoon.lol..Everyone always praises these cars and they should be praised, but I have a few things I don't like so, they must be said...lol. I will not trade mine in either! I will add to it, but not replace it. I love this little car, it's amazing.
Fantastic video great job
Loved your
remembrance poppy “remember them”
Top bloke keep these super vids coming from 🇬🇧
Thanks for noticing! Lest we forget! Cheers!
Jacob I own a 997 convertible and I love it. The performance is definitely all there but every time I see a 993 I often wish I would have that to park by my 997. There's something about that vintage drive without computers to control the car for you that everyone is now after and that is why I believe the price of your vehicle has shot to the roof. Enjoy the natural Drive of a real Porsche
Yes, definitely I agree with you, that 993 sensory experience cannot be replaced by a few more ponies and "better" tech. Thanks for watching Ronald!! Enjoy the cab in good health my friend!
I fully agree with what you said on the the air cooled prices...it's nice to have an appreciating asset, but there's a little bit of fear associated with it as well for me.
I just find every aspect of ownership affected by the values, and for guys like us who aren't speculators parking their infinite $s in luxury goods for a bit, things are different! Could be worse, we are all heading towards autonomous transport...I'll cry harder once they're "illegal" lol...
Love these videos! Very thorough and fun to watch. Can you tell me your suspension setup? I need to replace the struts on my ‘97 C2 Cabrio. I love the lowered look of yours!
Thanks for tuning in Jim. I am running Bilstien PSS10 coilovers, set at just a little under 993RS + 10mm height. I have my dampening stiffness set at 5 front, 6 rear for the roads around here and my style of weekend cruising on streets. I hope this helps!
Great list...I redid all mechanical items even if they were fine except for internal engine/tranny. Want to be able get in and drive it across country if needed. My list
1. Oil change - sucks!! That second filter is a PITA
2. Performance - like u said its love hate. Already have a faster car so not missing it, but do like to floor it and have some extra power on tap.
3. Patina - mine is blasted with rock chips. Plan to get a respray eventually. It is what it is..been used
4. Seats - I dont fit. The lower side bolsters squish me on the legs. May have to replace them.
5. Floor mat - thing always creeps up against pedals
FYI - I just moved the wipers to the passenger side. Otherwise it would have made it the list. You should do it if you dont need intermittent wiper setting. Love it now and can actually see the headlight bulges.
Good list!! True about the oil change! :)
i know you guys probably have a good answer for this. do you have a clear bra or some sort of protection? is this still a concert even with that protection? +911Percent
Very good list - agree mainly with 2. (performance) and 3. (patina), but also with 4. (on the track) and with the wiper on the wrong side: I'm not tall, but would love to see more of the headlight bulges. But love is much much bigger than hate. Cheers, a happy owner of a '94 dark blue or blue night narrow body Carrera 2 with 272 horse power.
Don't have protection. That sounds dirty...lol...Car came with the patina. Wish I was the one who did it. When I respray I will definitely be adding it day 1.
good content , nicely presented. deserves more subs, imho.
there's a pretty crazy thread on the rennlist forums about this vid. i for one really enjoy your vids.. keep at it jakob.
i'm usually not a fan of dark wheels but those LM's look great.
Yeah, it's a shame. It exposes who really frequents that forum now...LOL..I would never knock someone down from behind a keyboard for doing something they enjoy..but hey, it is what it is. Being public about these 993 experiences opens me up to all sorts of opinions and judgements, it comes with the territory. It's like anything..some people will like something, some will hate it. That thread did send a bunch of new people here which is cool. And I really appreciate the support from the few on RL as well who jumped in to try to neutralize some of that hate with love lol.... :) Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. No publicity is bad publicity is my take on this project. I have 60+ videos of swooning over the car..this single video just outlines some basic annoyances,( that by the sounds of it), a lot of 993 owners experience too.. :P
I will sleep better tonight. I'm not the only one with those points about owning a 993. Have to explain to my wife now that there's other "me" feeling the same out there. Thanks for the terapy Jakob!
Ha, yeah I mean, there are a lot of aspects I love, and they definitely outweigh the negatives...but these things are something that I think about at least once throughout the season... Glad to hear you enjoyed it and it resonates with you! I find I'm getting a lot of negatives from people about this video, but I think they aren't air-cooled owners and just "don't get it" :P
Hi Jakob, I saw you video and I thought whaaaaat?? The 993 is awesome!, but then I watched and I'm all, yeah... True... The top is a mess too. Last year of that stupid plastic rear window and the fuss with the motors and such. Then, you HAVE to put on the boot and that thing is nuts! The 308 is simpler and faster! But the windscreen being part of the top is great! The 996 top is a breeze. but they didn't fix the windscreen until the 991. Seems like, in a lot of ways it is a transition car - stuck between what was and what will be... Still love it though and it looks and feels special. The spirit of the 356 in that one. F
Hi! Thanks for watching Franny! Yeah, it was only fitting to counter all this love and enthusiasm with some hate haha. I love this car. :)
yoo, hella rad. thx 4 usin my tracks doe
Great video as always Jakob! I think it’s great to look at these, warts and all. As an owner, when I look at mine I love the shape and curves but I hate how much the convertible roof sticks out of the car when it’s down. I want to creat a modified 993 roof similar to the 996 cabrio. I think that would be a popular mod. Sad to hear it’s your last drive. No Maintenace videos planned over the winter from the garage? Thanks again! Sk
Thanks for watching Stephen! It's all part of the fun! Yes, I have a few projects planned, but nothing too major. This winter I'm just going to get my callipers redone and tackle some of the little random things that have been bugging me..what I"m trying to say is no engine drop or anything super major like that this winter lol. Thanks again for watching!
Great video Jakob!
Thanks Hans! :)
Sadly the 5 things I hate video was longer than the 5 things I love video. Great job, though. Where I live, it seems you see less air cooled Porsches on the road after the prices went up. Good to see you drive yours!
LOL, yes, still testing and experimenting. I wish I made that one longer too. Thanks for watching!
Great video, this was REALLY HELPFUL, I am on the cusp of either buying an air cooled classic like my dad used to own, ten in all, to maybe recapture those old memories and feelings, or instead buy a new body style, 2 year old 911 which I just test drove BTW. NO QUESTION your video made the decision for me -- retro performance is a huge negative, the patina issue would be a constant distraction and cost me a fortune, and routinely having to rebuild or replace expensive components would ruin the experience. Thanks for posting.
I don't think this would be any different with any other old car to be honest..it's part of the game with classics.... I grossly exaggerated some of these points if that helps a little..like the patina and the expense of parts, etc..I hope I didn't deter your from reliving your family's memories..that would make me sad.
Good video, good to hear the other side
Awesome video, Thanks for sharing as always. Good list, if I could add a #6... Parts (and labor) are CRAZY expensive. I know this shouldn't come as a surprise but I can't help but fume when shelling out $100+ for crap like plastic fog light lenses. Drives me nuts. Of course, I bought a high milage 993 that needed everything (top end rebuild, suspension, brakes, paint and body work.) I thought buying one that needed some TLC and doing some of the work myself might offset the high cost of ownership. How spectacularly wrong I was! All that being said, I am loving every mile and there's no other car I'd rather own!
Thanks so much Conor! Yeah it's true the parts and everything else associated with the ownership has gone up with the values. That's what I was getting at in my rambles, it effects so much. Man, my favourite is the $18 caliper bolts - two per caliper and x 4 calipers... lmao! ROBBERY. Thanks so much for watching! Mine is high mileage too 120+K miles! Good on you for taking on a project and bringing one of these beauties back to life!! I'm keeping mine forever too! :)
cool! video! people dislike so many videos about things you dislike about the Porsches ! I drive my 911 turbo all year round! cheers!
Thanks so much for watching! Yeah, it's funny, I get so much hate for this video. It was just a follow up to one I made about the things I LOVE about it. I've had the car for almost 10 years, I can dislike a few things lol...It's my favourite Porsche I've ever owned :)
That's great that you drive your Turbo all year 'round! I am driving my 2011 C4S all year too! I just put on some Pirelli Sottozeros and can't wait for the first snow :)
Awesome car! Hoping to have one someday.
Thanks for watching Michael! Do it! Highly recommended! I hope you checked out some of my other videos on the channel - particularly my 5 things I LOVE :)
Ha, I can relate to every issue here. Great video
Thanks man!! :)
Hi Jakob, I never would have thought I would hear you utter the words "hate" and "Porsche 993" in the same sentence. But after watching the video I can understand ... somewhat. I would have preferred you use "dislike" rather than "hate" so my sense and sensibility aren't offended. Have a good break and enjoy Houston. Cheers Peter
Thanks for watching Peter. Yes, I meant dislike, just a little UA-cam drama :)
I have had my 1995 C4 993 3.8 for a few years as well now. Could do good cop, bad cop because I can’t fault mine for speed. It’s quicker than a 993 Turbo S and love the 4WD system at the limit that decides its rear wheel drive.
Electronics are to much in cars now and was looking, going through many cars to find the perfect drivers cars that a computer won’t correct if your drivings rubbish. And I ended up with mine. Always loved them, even drive in the wet. Keeps you on your toes. But not salt or sand on roads weather.
I’m in your position, values increased so much that you treat your car with kid gloves instead of having a fun blast about.
But you can’t be nice about your car forever. I can, but that’s just me.
I understand exactly as you say about not quick enough, many cars now doing 0-60 in 5 seconds (mostly BMW M cars), and that extra bit would get rid of them.
I do and with ease without any changes, So you can do it. You have the power, you can have a supercar once again,.
Great points 993 Ninja! I really do enjoy my car the way it is (the channel shows me enjoying it very much lol)..I wouldn't want to change it or trade it for something else. I do store it from salt and sand and terrible SUV drivers in the winter, but when it's driving season I drive it like I stole it. All it really is with the values thing, is the cost of ownership increased a little and also the stress levels sometimes go up as far as being protective against theft or vandalism, or wear and tear.... I still love this car, and like I always say, I will ADD to it, but Not replace it. Thanks for watching!
Great video.
Thank you Lionel!
What an honest assessment. I think a lot of these cars will find themselves turned into high quality, restomod show ponies.
I hope that doesn't happen!! Already everything related to "air-cooled" has risen in the harbour along with the car values themselves. Either way, mine's a keeper, so at least I'll be able to find a way to always enjoy it. Thanks for watching Patrick!
Yours is a beautiful vehicle. I'm interested in building an aircooled 993 lookalike but with modern performance based on extremely simple technology (ie a large, flat-six VW type motor). Surely people would buy that at the right price.
Thanks for the vid, Jacob! I totally agree on all of your points regarding my 993 Conv that I have here with me in Miami. Although it is a non-S car and also a Convertible I still found out that the prices have gone up a bit. ;-) Keep up the perfect work here on YT and let me know whenever you make it to Miami. Time for a video for both channels with my 993!
Oh, and: What's the total mileage on your 993?
That would be great, I'll let you know if I'm ever there. My car has 126K miles on it....a true "driver" :)
Okay, mine has 91K. So not that less either! ;-) Make a trip to Florida, there is a lot of Porsche stuff to do and see! ua-cam.com/video/ZVCy6jOrz1Y/v-deo.html
Car looks dope on the LMs
Thanks brotha! :)
911Percent Needs Fuchs 10" on the rear and 8" on the front in my opinion. But they still look nice and it's a sexy car, always loved air cooled Porsches.
I’m 4 for 5 with you - I have a ‘95 so the SAI does not plague my 993.
If you didn’t have a 993, ...you’d only have one complaint.
Every Pcar series has some wart(s), like the 993 air injection system. It's unreal how each series has some big flaw. 997.2 looks to be pretty clean with the 9a1 engines, but some complain of DFI carbon build up issues. Though that sounds pretty minor to me.
Yeah, it's nuts and at least the valve guides/valves and SAI is not as big of a deal like the cylinder scoring issues in the M96 and M97 engines
Great Video Jakob!
I hope you checked out the 5 things I love too! :)
Oops I posted twice.... Yes I did, great vid work dood!
Sounds like regular oil changes would cure a lot of that clogging up you mentioned and using the proper Porsche recommended oil would keep the valve seals supple and thus reducing guide wear.
This video just popped up on me and it is 3 years old. Do you still have this car?
I also remember the 993s had a thing in the intake manifold called veroram. That adds horsepower at higher revs. It is vacuum actuated and has mechanicals inside that can wear out. Are you sure yours is working?
Lovin that poppy.
The 4 things I hate the most on your 993 are the BBS LM's since they need to be on mine lol. BTW....the response to this video on Rennlist was UM.....interesting. Keep up the great work Jakob.
LMAO!! It blew my mind too...I expect it from people completely disconnected with these cars, but actual fellow flesh and blood enthusiasts? Oh well..Thanks Mark!! :)
Agreed, per your first point in the video the increase in values has changed many existing and most new owners from "Enthusiasts" to "Connoisseurs". Unfortunately I think that attitude has migrated to Rennlist, I see less and less of many of the past stalwart regulars who were constantly there to offer help, a true shame.
Rennlist is a cesspool...it's sad. But it's also not worth being worried about - my viewership is incredibly low from that site and always has been (another sad point). For every one mean comment or dislike there, I have HUNDREDS of likes and pats on the back for my efforts. The average age on RL is probably 60+...how many old timers do we know who consume video content on UA-cam? LOL...they're still enjoying Matlock on their colour televisions. :P Also, my favourite is the "suggestions" - bad music, fast editing, etc etc..this is not a paid program on television haha, there is no customer service department and it's not a democracy... Makes me laugh :) Thanks for the support Mark, only 4 more months to go before we ride! :)
Just to add.... the mechanics in the factory dubbed the 993 the last Porsche to leave the garage - Tony Hatter done the finest job ever
No argument here, Tony Hatter created the best looking 911 ever.. Re: the mechanics at the factory, perhaps they forgot about the problematic valves and valve guides. The valves themselves are soft and over time do not seal, and the guides themselves are also soft and have sloppy tolerances (that vary from car to car). Besides burning oil, and some loss of power, this causes issues with the secondary air injection system preventing OBD2 993s from passing air/smog tests. A top end ($$$$$) is the only way to properly fix this. None of these cars are perfect.
Jacob, your car looks 911% amazing. I have a 98 C2S and wanted to change the original turbo wheels ... this is it! Don’t know if I can ask, but where did you source them? I’m in the US and I haven’t been able to find those LM’s. Hope you get this. Congrats
Thank you R-LQ. I was lucky to find wheels preowned. The wait times for new BBS LM are too long! I hope you can get your hands on a set for your 2S! I love the way they fit on the widebody :) Thanks for watching!
Beautiful pictures as always, and I have a few comments to your list.
1. The appreciation thing, totally agree, it's just ridiculous
2. Slow vintage performance, totally agree, it's just...wait a minute, what else made 0-60 in 5,4 seconds in 1993? But compared to todays standards, and 911's in general it's a bit slower. But you can easily tweak your car to 300-330 bhp, and loose some superfluous items like that cage, the back seat, the stereo, any non-essential items inside the coupe, get carbon engine lid and frunk lid, and throw out all the crap in the frunk, add lightweight (and much better ) seats, then you'll toss out the weight equivalent to a grown man, 150-200 lbs. it makes a difference. then with a few tweaks to the induction system/injectors/new processor you can easily have 300-325 bhp and have the same weight to hp ratio as a 997GT3
3. Patina, seriously what's not to like about it? your car is 20 years old, it should show it's age (like the owner).
4. Noises??? seriously??? buy a new car, and you'll have someone to complain to....It's a sign of a car with soul, and I have had my share through the 80's, and 90's, actually well into the 00's and it's a sign of something being worn. To be on the safe side with your 993, poly the entire undercarriage, and squeeks will be gone. The 993 however is probably the best put together 911 of all times. Porsche lost money on every single one of them, because cost of manufacture was no subject. Be glad it makes good noise from the engine and enough of it to drown the remaining noises..lol
5. Poor valve guide design? maybe/maybe not, it's the air return pump that was required in the US that is the culprit. RIP it out, and loose the problem, RIP out the cat's and loose another huge annoyance. You can get a better improved CPU from several aftermarket providers that'll let you program/tune your way out of emissions problems after loosing those stupid things. I don't know the details of your car, but a top end job shouldn't be necessary until after 200k miles. The 993 engine is pretty bulletproof in that respect. I recently drove one with over 360k miles on it, it had no extraordinary oil consumption. oh well that was my two cents... :)
Awesome response!! I think you caught onto the fact that I was really reaching hard to find 5 things I didn't actually like about the car...so some are pretty far-fetched, like the Patina thing..LOL... I love this car, and I always praise it. It was interesting to me to open some conversations about some of the negatives about it. Also, just to add to the top end thing, there are many reported cases of top end jobs being done under warranty in the 90/early 2000 with very low miles on the odometer. I do not think the issue of sloppy tolerances of the guides and the valves themselves is prevelent in higher mileage cars only. Mine has a lot of miles, and honestly I don't think I'm going to be doing the top end for a few years at least - I add a quart of oil once a driving season..so 2-3K miles.... I also have friends with half the miles and they had insane consumption issues which led to a topend - like a quart every gas tank.... Anyways, great response!! :)
1 quart pr tank??? so the old saying of "checking gas and filling oil" holds true "over there". It seems to me that this is all related to the insane smog devices installed on cars in north America. I can imagine that when breather valves get clogged up as a result of the air return system you referred to (which by the way has no effect on emissions at all), it doesn't do the engine any good at all.
That rebuild issue scared me out of a deal for a 993 a few weeks ago. Chose an Evora instead...but hope to add a 993 to the stable in the future!!
Definitely do, don't be scared of the top end rebuild.
If you do a rebuild on these 911's you can get them back to like new. There is no car on the market today that will give you that experience.
I intend to get an Air cooled of some sort. Not sure if I should go for a 70s model and get it refurbished to new or something like a 993.
It will come down a narrow body vs wide.
Ah the dichotomy of a 993 owner. On point and laughed at everyone because I was like...yeah true! Truthfully I just get the itch to drive something else every 4-5yrs no matter what it is. I totally agree with you about the values skyrocketing, and it making me more reticent about where I park, am I driving it too many miles each year, etc. In the end, I just wish I could afford a garage of all my favorite Porsches-air and water cooled ones! But, man drive it like you stole it, keep up those sweet videos, and enjoy it-which I know you do. I bet when it comes time to getting your top end done you could save yourself a few thousand pulling the motor and taking it to a shop to get the rebuild. That job best left to a seasoned pro with the knowledge and tools to do the job like...a professional! Start saving!
I would have to say I find the oil changes in this car a PITA job too, and would have added that in your list-I will call them 'dislikes' because I too find 'hate' a pretty harsh word for such a sweet machine! I can't say I've ever even mumbled "I hated" my 993 after four years of ownership! I fall in love with her every time I flip the garage lights on or slip the car cover off!
Thank you Brian for completely understanding my rant in this video! Do I hate this car and want to sell it? NOPE...It's just these little details of ownership that are annoying and needed to be said... I will be definitely sending the top end out to get the valve job done one day at a reputable shop.. It's in the cards for sure, but I can't see it happening anytime soon, since my consumption isn't bad at all. Thanks again for this great comment! Cheers!! :)
Jakob,
Interesting video and I have liked some of them in the past...thanks again for driving route advice to Niagara on the lake from north of Barrie. Just a point of note...it is great that you are spotting a poppy rather than not at all but it should be worn on the Left lapel or directly over your heart😃
Thanks for watching Three Pedal Rebel and other videos too! I know about the poppy ettiquete . My bad for not noticing the wrong placement - I have 2 small kids - They've ripped out "daddy's red flower" pretty much the entire time I've had it on my jacket early November. And I'm always frantic when it happens because they get a hold of the pin...haha.. I hope you understand I meant no disrespect, just a quick, semiconscious repin.. Cheers!
911Percent , yep that can happen...my little one is now 11 going on 15...enjoy the simple times😃😃 BTW what do you think of the vehicles being made by the RSR Project
LOL, thanks, I keep hearing this as a (relatively) new dad...The RSR Project cars are absolutely amazing. I love the more original approach. I think they were in Houston this weekend...but I didn't get to meet them. Thanks again for taking the time to comment! Cheers! :)
I mostly only see praises on the 993 so I like the idea of your video. I can tell that you struggled to come up with 5 problems ;)
You mention a few times that the problems exist with your mental state. I think you just need to pick what you want the car for, if it's a garage queen, fix the paint chips, don't track it and you won't care about the performance. But.... I can tell you love the car and the experience.... so forget that, and drive the crap out of it. It's a street legal race car. I have two 993s and I love both and... they're still just cars ;)
BTW - sweet ride!
Content, music and cinematography ACE as allways
Thank you Alberto!!!! Cheers my friend!
BBW wheels have always been my favorite on the classic Porsche.
Thanks Scott, I love these wheels.
911Percent ...Could you please let me know how big the wheels are ??? And what size of the tyres you have on also ??? I truly appreciate your response !!! :)))
great vid
Understand most of your complaints about the 993. Have had my '95 C4 since new and always felt it was underpowered. Inter-cooled, super-charged TPS kit adds the 100 horsepower you seek.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!! Yeah I’ve been reading about the TPS kit since I got the car - FI is cool but I think I’ll keep it stock . The car is good - the performance comment was just me whining about Toyota Camrys having more HP. LOL. The only way I’ll satisfy my itch for more performance is to add a newer 911 to the stable! :)
Just became a recent subscriber and enjoy the videos you put out ! I gotta question though ? I’m in the market and really want an air cooled Porsche but based on the price hikes of the last few years would you say they are still worth the money or would a 996/997 be the better buy? Thanks again for the great content and look forward to 2018 !
Justin, thanks so much for checking out my videos and the channel!! It's hard to articulate the answer to your question in a quick comment, but, I think comparing those cars is tough because they're completely different experiences and it's really only you that could only answer what is right for you... I highly recommend an air cooled Porsche if you are interested in a visceral drive - these cars are analog animals and a lot of fun to drive because of their size, sound, smell, etc.... However, if you do a lot of driving and need comfort, or a quiet cabin to take bluetoothed phone calls while driving, or you are a speed demon and need lots of power, the newer cars are "better" in that respect. If you are looking at newer 911s an equal pricing comparison with say 993s today would be 997.2s. I would skip the 996 or 997.1 naturally aspirated 911s unless it's a deal you cannot refuse! Again, this is top level, vague answer! I hope it helps a bit though! Good luck!!!
It occurs to me that you may crave "more power" from your 993 because by engine sound, you seem to shift at about 3500rpm max. (yawn). The 993 was meant to be used, as they say, "as if you stole it." shifting at no less than 4500 should 'cure' the perceived power deficit.
Will you be making a video on the steps you take to store your car for the winter?
Yes, but it won't be posted for a few weeks.
I always enjoy making these videos. They split opinion so much.
Ha, yeah it was fun to make! I'm trying the "more narrative" route with the vids..it's easy to blab-on forever on camera lol..and then comes editing..ugh :) I am putting on my flame suit though, I know there will be split opinions about stuff for sure! Thanks for watching Al! Take care my friend! :)
911Percent yes I know what you mean. Sometimes I edit and all of a sudden I’m 5 minutes in and I haven’t said shit lol. Keep it up Jacob. 👍👍😎🚘
Great video. Wasn’t aware of 5. Big deal!! Not on 964?
Thanks! Not sure, but probably the same issue in 964.. It's true, it's no big deal really, but could be a big deal (costly) to some.
How did you pay? Transparency?
awesome 993!
Thank you Roman!
Your videos are pretty good, you ramble on a bit much, but, thanks for the trouble you went through. I've owed a 993 NB for almost 10 years.
For me, the only thing I am not too fond of is the 1st to 2nd gear long shift. It's not that big a deal though. Carry on eh :-)
Thanks for watching..:)
I have a 996 GT3 and it is nearest modern Porsche to the old air cooled models. Do not get rid of your air cooled car for some fancy fast computer game Porsche.
You will massively regret it later and the value on these air cooled Porsches are going to keep increasing as New Porsche people come to market and the number of cars do not increase.
Yes I agree with everything you're saying.. I do not plan on selling the 993 anytime soon! I will only add newer Porsches to the stable! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! :)
The environment will forever remain a threat to all car protected or not, you can protect your car with a clear film so much. When you let yo' OCD take care of the imperfections after a detail for few weeks, you will get exhaust ik I do after maintaining my 04 black Saturn Vue like a Ferrari SMFH maybe because the paint of my car is black and the tiniest imperfection ends up looking major on black paint.
I heard many shop could address that last issued once for all by changing into slightly modern sytem
#5 would be a deal breaker for me. It's truly a money pit if i have to continue to rebuild the head once the valve starts acting up.
Thanks for watching! Yeah I wouldn't get this done with OE Porsche valves to avoid this at another time... There are a few reputable companies out there that have made replacement valves and guides with no slop! lol. I think when it's time for mine I'll send my topend out to one of these shops and have them rebuild it. All in all, these cars are super reliable; I didn't mean to fear-monger with the valve guides issue...These engines are a lot more reliable than the M96 and M97 in newer 911s specifically failures due to bore scoring and minimum $20K full rebuilds..lol.
1. I️ can totally see how that would ruin the fun. You wanna take it out and play with it, but with a growing value you have to realistically take that into consideration.
2. Just gonna have to stick with the “drive a slow car fast” mantra.
3. I️ haven’t owned a car old enough to have “patina”, but I️ do know how the little things can wear on you. (Rock chips, worn molding, rattles, etc) It’s hard to remind yourself that it’s not a show car, especially when you are on the forums and see everyone else’s pristine example.
4. I️ had an e46 M3 and I️ swear every sound I️ heard was my VANOS about to explode. I️ can relate. I️ was super paranoid for months. I️ finally got over it and then I did the Beisan VANOS repair and completely forgot about it.
5. Stupid design issue? See number 4.
I️’m an hour and a half from Houston, wish I️ knew sooner, I️ might’ve made the trip. Sounds like a good time.
Thanks for the thorough response!! ...Only an hour and a half??! Common..lol...Meet is happening all afternoon Saturday! If you make it out, come say hi! :) Cheers!
Close ratio gear box, wakes the car up and a lot more fun to drive. Cant do 160 anymore but couldn't do that any ways on the streets,
Yes! This is something I've always read about - a euro close ratio box. Something to think about in the future for sure. Thanks for watching.
The 993 is the way to go with the 911, nice car.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! Take care :)
Hey, you forgot the HVAC system ! 😂😀👍
Haha, true! :)
By contrast, I put 12k on my 2017 turbo S this year, had it at the drag track multiple times with a best of 10.68@135.99, did 5 lapping days at shannonville, maxed it out on a private northern test track (ahem) and generally enjoyed the crap out of it. And it's not paid for yet. lol I think you should just enjoy the car, you only live once. On the flip side, I hate the wear and tear that the road inflicts on these cars. :(
Happy to hear you're using your TurboS how it should be!! Holy crap a 10 second car out of the box..Insane!! I do enjoy the car, I mean the channel shows it all. I drive it, I wrench on it and I admire it... :)
What a dope!
What happened to the sunlight, are you actually in the Artic Region??
She's so beautiful, nobody can hate her!! 😁
LOL, yeah just being honest! But there are a million things I LOVE about it vs a few thing I hate! Thanks for watching!
She is gorgeous especially on those rims..
Man U fan
Dude, you can either have a perfect car, or you can drive it. Did you buy it to look at it or to have some fun?
Still a good looking car!
Agreed, thanks for watching
what with the scaffolding in the back?
DAS Roll bar..I got rid of it last fall.
Nein93. Lol that plate is badass haha
Sooo true...
Thanks for watching!!! :)
Great video Jacob! I hear what you are saying about your car with various costs and appearances and performance. but let me ask you one question, when you park somewhere, anywhere, as you walk away to wherever you may be going, do you take a look back and look at your car and smile. For me all the other issues disappear. Enjoy your car and keep making great videos! hope this helps.
Thanks Adam! Yes, there are definitely many many more things I LOVE about the car, than these little weak "hates" ..:P Thanks for watching brother! I do a double, (triple even) take every time I park it. But what I was saying is that when I do park it, now that it's a sought after classic, I stress about theft, damage, etc etc :) Cheers!
license plate !!!! gotta love it !
On the topic of what I could do financially what could be attainable on a regular joe salary and some frugality in other parts of the life. 2nd gen Cayman to drive hard. 993 for the weekends and baby it. Toyota or Jeep 4WD for forest roads. That would be a dream!
Stop complaining and start enjoying it. It is a thing of beauty. I wish I had bought one years ago. You could say all those things about any classic. I wouldn't touch any new car. They are appliances nowadays. I like your videos. Keep up the good work.
First of all nice video.. and AWESOME car!!
Don't be worried about performance, as you said, it's a lot more rewarding driving fast a slow car than driving slow a fast car.
And what fast car? All these new rockets stuffed with electronics that makes you feel a good driver?
No thanks. I'm gonna take your 993 over ANY of the new Porsches, any time. Your car is a men's car, enjoy it!!
Thanks man! I appreciate the comment! I really love this car and enjoy it to the fullest. I posted this to respond to a "Things I love" video I made... I agree, the new 911s are too good. Even though they're rockets you can still feel how big they are. The size and rawness of the 993 is the main charm. Anyway, thanks for watching! Take care! :)
I wouldn't be worried about performance either , cause you only allowed 100 km/h hahaha
Whats your thoughts on the new Singer 911 ?
I've only seen the press release pics. I've known vaguely about this project for quite some time through my friend that owns a Singer. Interesting story about how this project came to be. I'm not a fan of "add ons" in some angles I feel like the car is over styled, but I am also quite aware that all of that is functional and needed to keep a 2000lb, 500hp rear engine, rwd car on the road. I love some of the details like the roof air scoop, and the "vented" tail lights..Also the interior is unreal with that exposed shifting mechanism. Ok, I'm going to keep blabbing on, so in short; it's still currently a love/hate..I like some aspects, not so much others. (The spec of the first car is AMAZING.)
911Percent more or less what i thought.. the interior looks beautiful! The add-ons like you said are' a little too much imo.. going to give it some time they might grow on me still (: it came as a complete surprise to me (new singer) was searching some vintage 911 pics to droll over lol and bumped into the freshly uploaded pics and video :) in essence its a great way to save classic 911's from worse faiths! even if the looks are maybe a bit over the line for my personal taste..
peace and thanks for the quick reply :)
You want more Oomph? Get a 993 C2 or C2S. Those AWD cost 5-10% hp and gives you 80kg more. Also get rid of the cage as you say you don't track anyhow. And if you still need more Oomph get the 3.8 and you should be set.
If I was to do it all over again, I would buy a 993 Turbo. That's the right amount of power for this chassis, also at the time Turbos were $5-10K more than my 4S. I drove an Andial 3.8L and honestly the extra 0.2L wasn't noticeable until right up at the redline. Cage has been gone for almost a year now - haven't noticed a significant difference in feel. I also do not agree that the awd costs 5-10% of the power..do you have empirical data to back that up? I have access to lap times around Laguna Seca - my friend drives both his C4S and C2 (RS tribute) there often and the times are consistently within a hundredth of a second - I don't think that's noticeable on a street driven car
A Turbo is to me too much of a different animal. More understeer, inevitable Turbo-lag, less charismatic sound (every Turbo works as muffler) and a different engine characteristic. I would certainly like to drive one just to see how such a old car with so much HP drives, but i doubt i would prefer it.
Regarding the 5-10% more drivetrain-loss it's hard to find any real scientific or even manufacturer given data, but a google for "drivetrain loss awd rwd" brings lots of numbers in that range. Keep in mind that the C2 is best compared to a FWD as it's no transaxle which also costs some power. On top of friction comes inertia through more mechanical parts that have to get going. I think in the case of the 911 (because it's comparable to a FWD) the difference should be well in that region of 5-10%. It's definitely an interesting topic, maybe the forums have some empirical data somewhere.
Given (with cage) around 100kg more, 5-10% less HP and 14HP more for the 3.8 i would definitely expect a big difference to be noticed. Maybe i will have the chance to compare those two soon.
997.2 was the best porsche ever made.
The price hike is absolutely absurd to say the least. Esp with the heightened popularity of Porsche builders and UA-cam and social media and other companies modding these cars. I was in the market maybe 3-4 years ago I could have got one for a great great price and I should have but just wasn't in the position where I could have enjoyed it fully. Now for same cars I've looked at those some years ago they are almost doubled in price. I'm sorry but nobody in their right mind should be paying the the mid 30's to low 40's for these cars and most are in Fair to not so good condition. I've seen some in the 40k range with worn paint, ripped interior and just needing tons of work. Terrible.
Yeah, sad. We can all thank the ridiculous "speculators" and over-night "collectors" for driving the prices so hard. Luckily the market seems to be softening a bit over the last year from what I've seen. I see a lot of cars are sitting. I hope you will find one soon, they are worth the wait!
The only thing I hate about mine is putting it away for the winter.
Yes...but how sweet is it to pull off the cover every March/April?! One of my favourite things to do! Thanks for watching!
It's nice to hear about the real world drawbacks to having a 20+ year old Porsche to offset the onslaught of videos about how great they are. It helps keep my lust in check! :-)
#4 so true. Is the car going to start up today?, what was that sound? Is it Christmas already?
Yeah, it drives me nuts sometimes!! But other times I cherish the charm of the mechanical sounds :)
#2. Engine upgrades
damn my m5 had they exact some issue with valve guides, oil consumption, and secondary air pump. Definitely gonna pass on 993's know that I know they have this issue. That is thje stupidest design EVER!!! Damn I loved the look of the 993. Have they figured out a work around for this problem?
"Patina" really only applies to antique cars. The 993 and 964 are modern unibody cars. Wear and tear is not a selling point on modern cars.
Killer without the whale tail
Thanks for watching!
I am so disappointed. This guy is only going half-way. He needs to wear a full race-harness. Everybody can see the roll-cage but what good is that without the extra straps?
Without track days I won’t own a high performance car anymore.
So, it sounds to me you would hate a Porsche 356? To slow. I've come to the conclusion that speed is not everything. It's more about balance.of the whole car. I had a Porsche 912 and I always wanted more power, but it was the most fun is handling/driving car. Great video. Thanks