A bit over 6 years I was between a Subaru BRZ and a 911sc.. both were the same money and both had similar performance stats. I bought the 911sc and have been loving it ever since! Best choice I made in my life!
I just bought a 1978 911 SC in Petrol Blue with Cork interior. Not a sport though. Just drove it for the first time this weekend and absolutely love it!
Nice video. I own a 911S from 1976. I have to be honest, main reason for me is the look of the car. The younger ones are for sure better performing but I like the 70s models. It took me 5 years to get my car perfect. And I do not want to imagine how much it might cost and take to restore a younger Porsche. What is not there will not break. I love the pure driving experience of a 100% mechanical car.
I have a 3.2 M491 Targa and a 997.2 C4S 6-sp Cabrio. I also have 3 105’s Alfas. I’m just as happy tootling along in my 90hp 1966 Alfa Guilia Ti as I am in the 997. It’s about enjoying these cars for their sheer beauty and engineering marvel. I get a thrill out of each one. Throws you back in time when designers and engineers worked to produce unique machines for a much smaller market. When I drive my old school cars, I’m transported to a gentleman player of that time. They are very cool.
Honestly that era Porsche 911 is my dream car. first fast car I ever rode in as a kid. My dads best friend back in 1978 had one and took me for a ride when I was 12 . Before we got off the entrance ramp to interstate 64 in southern Indiana we were doing 130 mph and he never banged 1 gear. smooth shifts. car pulled hard way upstairs between shifts. pinned in the seat. my dad had just tuned the carbs. my dad is a British car guy so he never owned one but that car made one hell of an impression on me. When I finally stop racing motocross and XC races on motorcycles I will likely pick one up. I would only want that era 911
I live in Indy and have taken that WB ramp from I-65 to I-64 circa 1991. And again en route to Santa Claus, IN many years later. As I recall it was (not sure if it was recently redesigned) a medium sweeper with a 50mph limit?? So 130mph makes me cringe. I have to say, that may have been considered child endangerment (read as I'm green with envy).
What a breath of fresh air. A fantastic video full of great dialog and perfectly on point that you don't meed high HP to enjoy driving. Really enjoyed this.
I couldn't agree more my friend. Who really needs 1000BHP in a road car? I was lucky enough to own a 1995 Ferrari F355 with a 'mere' 380BHP and boy was that enough! My little 1996 993 Carrera has 'only' 285 BHP but that certainly feels fast enough in any normal conditions! Loving the vid, cheers from a rather drizzly Otford, Kent, UK.
@@shadwelthames9416 Good question! The best thing about the 993 compared to the 355 is that my wife likes it...Seriously though, they are very different animals, obviously the 993 is a rear-engine air/oil-cooled flat 6 compared to the mid-engine water-cooled V8 355. They both sound amazing but the 355 really screams above 6000rpm even with the factory standard exhaust. Mid-range torque is more noticeable in the 993 (mine's a later varioram version) but that just gives you an excuse to wring the 355's neck...The 993 definitely has better steering. The 355's just felt a little light compared to the 348's manual setup. The BIG difference between them are maintenance costs. The 355 is hilariously expensive to maintain, even at independent specialist prices (I had mine for 11 years - ouch) and don't forget the infamous 'engine-out' cambelt change every 3 years. I get the 993 serviced at a local Porsche specialist and even the 'big' service is under £1000. The 993 probably slightly shades the 355 in terms of build quality but they are both very well-engineered machines. Hope you continue to enjoy your Carerra4.
Enjoyable video thanks, i had a 997.2 then I bought a 1983 SC about 5 yrs ago to go along side it, I paid £50k for it, which was enough money, but it had a box file full of everything it’s had done since day one, bodywork completely restored, engine had been rebuilt some yrs previous, still pulls like a train, interior is original but still very tidy, if I’m honest I’ve probably spent another £10k on it, transmission rebuilt, suspension, engine tin wear, tyres etc etc so I’m most likely in negative equity with it for the foreseeable future but I don’t regret a penny because I love it and never plan to sell it, unlike my 997 which I’ve now sold and honestly don’t miss it at all.
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The 78:SC saved Porsche after the disastrous 75-77 thermal reactor cars that burned up their engines. The SC had two problems corrected in 1980. Porsche used hydraulic chain tensioners (instead of mechanical). When they failed, the engine usually suffered sever damage. They also used rubber center clutch plates (to cut down on noise). These would shred causing serious engine overheating revs.
In the US I don't think SCs have ever been unloved. That title goes to the mid-year 74 to 77 cars with narrow rear quarters and the 2.7 that had a bunch of problems. The 3 liter SC engine has always had a reputation for being bulletproof.
My 1981 SC has 455k miles...Los Angeles brawler...engine rebuilt at 400k miles...just refreshed it at 455k miles.....new tranny and all DIY...40 years with 914-6, 911T's.....but THIS is a machine, my Gretchen...I entirely agree with you that it is not numbers output HP..PDK...ETC... but the nuance and unique feel that an analog car delivers...yes manual indeed!!....I will take an SC over more modern ....if not, drive an iPhone with wheels, a Tesla...oh please not men. Excellent video thank you so much....
@@Jim-wr9iz So many people have converted the fried egg headlamps to the later style that the fried egg style is becoming a bit of a novelty. Almost everyone hated it at first, but now after 25 years it somehow doesn't look as bad anymore. Personally, the last time I saw one I thought it looked kind of nice, interesting, different. But it definitely depends on the color of the paint on the car. It seems to look better on the yellow or silver cars imo. Not so great with red. With black it's a toss up, as compared to the conversion lights.
Two things I did when I owned 911SCs....change gearbox oil for Swepco....amazing difference.. Also change for oil fed tensioner....I drove mine as daily...year round. A bulletproof 911.
The brilliant Porsche engineers transferred the rust from the body (galvanization started happening around ‘76) to the lower (Dilavar) head studs. Brilliant. Just like transferring the engine wear from the piston rings to the Alusil cylinder walls. Brilliant.
I've been searching high and low to find which cars have the character you're describing between 6:50 and 11:02, and it's honestly shocking how few I've been able to find, just about 3 or 4 cars so far (I'm sure there are more to be found, but the point is that they're really rare). Love your take here
I worked at a Porsche dismantler for a bunch years specializing in the 911s. I would not compare the 964 chassis to Carreras. They are abaout as different as the 964 is to the 996. The 964 chassis really is very different from the other 911's. The tunnel in the center made them alot stiffer and the coilover/strut suspension over the torsion bar setup is a huge difference too and why i prefered them. None of the steel panels are the same below the roof with the exception of the doors and front hood which were G50 revisions. (doors added single wiring harness hole, hood got washer nozzle holes). 2WD Brake boosters got stuck in between the front wheels instead of under the hood like Carreras. There is very little difference between 74-89 911's. Biggest i would say is G50 cars rear suspension Xmember had an indent to fit the G50 trans. Otherwise most everything else was cosmetic changes and engine displacement. 915 trans were just revisions over the years until the G50 showed up. Top tip, the width of the 964 at the rocker panel seams varied by 5/8" between about 12x 964s i measured. "Handmade"
There was a spate of chain tensioner failures 1977 - 80 due to the factory engine builders over shimming the valve springs which subsequently went coil bound and collapsed the chain tensioners I rebuilt a lot of engine during this time once rectified the original tensioners were not a problem.
The SC is a lovely car and regret selling mine 😢and miss it dearly,but could never pay £40-£50k grand today for one, after paying £12k for one in the early 2000s with £6k rebuilt motor,when you can get a good 997 for £20-25k today.. ok not quite the same but no way a 50% lesser car..
Had my 75 911S 2.7 since 1986. I had engine rebuilt in 1988 with carrera tensioners / oil inject gear and installed a large front fender air cooler with fan and fender scoop, 11 blade fan, and have enjoyed the heck out of the lightweight, raw, revy engine and transmission ever since. Many 2.7s ran hot too long. Those that work are fun. Yes, a rebuild these days is very pricey.
Took the converters out and replaced with straight through look alikes. Use a variable resistor to control fuel consumption. Used a stainless push switch for the starter eliminating the annoying switching with the key on and off. PITA. OK twin 12 inch subs and 5 inch in the doors with twin 600 watts amps, Supertramp is required by law. Oh, and the horsepower is now around 235.
Great video. Interesting that the guy said he flew up to Manchester as I sold my SC to a fella who did the same in 96 and I sold it for 8k and he drove it back to Surrey. May be the same bloke. I had mine from 91 to 96. MDF 643V in gold with the rubber spoiler. The car is in London now and you can google it. Sold at Silverstone auction's for 34k a few years ago. I loved the owning experience 😊
I had an 1981 911sc in the early 2000’s , bought from a main dealer who had shiny 996 in the showroom, I loved it, had for a few years, bought for £12k and sold for £9k , the only downside was the petrol consumption, it was 100% reliable. I’ve just sold a 997 which is a great car, but it’s not the same as air cooled raw driving.
964 on Fuchs wheels looks incredible. As for the most underrated and undervalued 911, I'd go with an early 996 3.4 Manual C2. Light and very very quick. Plus, not marred with the same reliability issues as the latest cars
I own a 1981 SC and a 964C2. The 964 is a far more easy and cheaper car to modify to your personal taste, making it easier to create the driving experience that you require. The engine is much stronger and the gearbox far better. For not a huge - relative - budget, my car is dynamically better than a 964RS which is almost twice the cost to buy. Based on that, the basic 964 remains good value. It gives a dynamic driving experience which is close to pinnacle air cooled. The problem is that - largely because of this - 964 values have risen to a level where the preservation of the vehicle in terms of where it’s parked etc. are becoming a larger factor. It can longer be justified as a beautifully engaging and dynamic daily driver. The SC on the other hand - whilst much more compromised dynamically- still delivers a good level of analog air cooled involvement at half of the cost. Which is the better car? The 964. Which car do I drive more often? The SC.
When I restored my SC I had the shell seam-welded and fitted with an integrated roll cage hidden behind the trim. This has stiffened the shell 70% so I could ditch the torsion bar suspension for KW coil overs dialled in for comfort. I also fitted 930 Turbo brakes and the GT3 front subframe from Elephant Racing. The rebuilt motor is 3.4 litres with twin-plug heads and Audi TT coil packs in place of the distributor. Control comes from a MoTec M400 ECU that provides fully mapped fuelling and ignition for 300hp with better fuel economy, lower emissions and far superior driveability to the original 204hp engine. This is my personal take on a 1,070kg air-cooled 911 without the Million Dollar price tag of a Singer!
When I bought my 83 SC I was looking at 964s also. This was in 2019 and the 964 was already quite expensive compared to an SC. The SC appealed more to me because it seemed very approachable for making my own. A lot of the things the 964 improved can be done to the SC. G50 swap, ditch the impact bumpers, coilovers, brakes, the sky is the limit with the 3.0, etc. I think a lot of the decision comes down to if you do some of the work yourself or if you are hiring all of it out. Paying for all these upgrades is expensive but doing it yourself is very reasonable.
Restomod industry has pushed the 964 prices up, including the engine and gearbox. They backdate the 964 to pre impact bumper models, modify the engine to make more power and sell them for high six figure prices. The great thing about the SC is that they’re all over 40 years old and you don’t need, VED, MoT or pay ULEZ charges and the ground clearance is high enough to clear excessively high speed bumps and narrow width restrictors.
Oh I had four 911 SC one was a cabriolet in white with black roof being a new one from AFN in London all of them just servicing only all reliable and it didn’t matter what the weather you got in and turn that key that engine burst into life ! Amazing beautiful cars to drive my only complaint , Pirelli P7 tyres on the rear use to wear out however you drove in just a few thousand miles and back in the day those tyres were very expensive . Nothing beat that push in the back accelerating in first gear ! She would rev round to the red line and didn’t sound thrashed at all with power and torque from low down all the way to around 6,800 revs . The early 911 ‘s I had all suffered from heat exchangers needed replacing which was an expensive job in labour it was either that or no heating ! Air cooled era for me the best .
A friend turned up with a 488 and I drove it on my favourite A and B roads. Stupidly fast and ridiculously capable. Did the same roads in a TVR Cerbera, a couple of weeks later and enjoyed it more.
Great video - thanks! And I LOVE your 964. I have a 1989 C4 with hotter cams. It’s great. what’s up with your fan - it looks fuzzy haha! The 964 is supposed to have 80% different parts - not sure about that. The twin plug makes a huge difference in performance, but I don’t know it’s twice the price of an SC, which are great too! The 964 is quite a modern car, with a real AC and proper power, with assisted steering and brakes.
I've driven virtually all classic production Porsches and the SC is BY FAR my favourite. I've owned the 2 different series and i still regret my series 2 to this day...
Not here in Australia, all 911 SCs are expensive. They range from a low of $72K up to $190k. With the majority for sale well north of $140K. So no, they aren’t unloved nor cheap.
Quick look in the classifieds, you're looking between 50-85k euros. These are loved cars. I used to holiday in Ketllewell with my parents, there was a pacific blue sc in the square, must have been owned by a local person, think it was a 86' or 87' car it was quite new at the time, a touch out of place but not at the same time. Stunning car with no rear wing.
And even cheaper here in the U.S.! :) Had my first trip to England October 2023. Such nice people. Ever pub visit involved exchanges of numbers/email addresses. Exceeded my expectations.
Have always adored the 911 SC since I bought my brooklands book for the model in my mid 20s. They were so cheap for years that I promised myself I would buy one when I was older. Sadly even at £45k they're out of reach now. I love the styling and think the performance is in that sweet spot of being enough to enjoy and allow overtakes but not so much you risk a ban after 3 secs on the throttle. 204 bhp btw, same as the boxster 986 2.5 AND the original RWD Sierra cosworth. An iconic number for this petrolhead who grew up in the 70s and 80s but also loves the 90s porsches.....
My Dad had a Targa SC in 1980, paler blue than this one. Glorious in N Wales. My Mgbv8 us nearly 200hp same weight, plenty fast enough. Owes me 12 grand. New 3.9 Rover ,cosworth t5 gearbox. All parts available and cheap. Similar looking. I'd have an SC on a heartbeat though if I could afford it 😊
These cars certainly teach you a thing or two about how to drive, select the correct gears, and best of all - speed matching the engine, road speed and gear speed! Especially in a 915 5 speed with a wirn 2nd gear synchro (which they all have)
Well done on this. The 911 SC remains a good value, perhaps underpriced. I would attribute the 964s premium both to its looks - losing the accordion bumpers - but mostly because it’s classic and somewhat modern. It works both as a weekend canyon carver and everyday driver. There are few classic cars that can do this.
I agree. I purchased a 1991 Carrera 2 in 1997 and in my minds eye at the time, an 911sc was an old Porsche. It was a different time and I was also younger and impressionable. That 18K mile 964 Carrera 2 cost me $38,000 at the time for perspective. I never knew the older Porsche's didn't use gaskets around the engine! WOW!
I'm yet to see a nice SC Coupe under £50k. Sure there's plenty of rotten, 13 owner, moon and back mileage dogs about, but nice ones don't seem to be much cheaper than an equivalent 3.2 Carrera. I can't say I subscribe to the concept they are undervalued.
One of these, with some proper ol'school tuning would give like 300 bhp at the wheels. And - in my taste - rid of the rubber lip and add a more modern active aero lip, the one that's flush with the decklid not actuated. THAT would be a Cracker❣️ So good buying tips. And God bless good ol' N/A engines and manual shifting 🙏 They (almost) don't make'm like that anymore..😢
I agree with everything you said mainly about these electronic powered cars with fake sounds and PDK, nothing beat a manual transmission on a BoxEngine flat six naturally aspirated engine.
I'm a proud owner of a 1983 911 SC. Which has had a nut and bolt restoration, gear box and engine rebuild, window out resprayed 'floor pan, internally', new 16" fuch wheels and tyre's. I also own a 991.1 50th anniversary 911 PDK . Which one I find the most fun to drive "of course the SC"! The 991.1 is a lovely looking car but boring to drive until you put your right foot down.
These cars are unreasonably expensive in the US. In fact all vintage cars seem much more money here vs UK. If I could find a healthy, well-loved, low mile, late in the run (‘84-85) un-modified unit for under $50kUS, I’d trade my Boxster in a minute. Especially now there are some useful AC products for them. It’s way too hot in the South without.
Me again, sorry...bought a 1990 964 Carrera 4 back in 1994 from Porsche in Maidstone (from Henry Cooper's son no less!) for £29K. Took it up to Scotland (all the way to John 'O Groats and the Isle of Skye and back to Kent via the Lake district (boy, did it rain!). Did just over 2000 miles in 2 weeks and enjoyed the hell out of it (even my girlfriend - now wife - did). Performed faultlessly and only sold it in 1995 because my bank manager was on my case...Swapped it for a new 1.6CL VW Polo (don't laugh, I needed the money). Got shot of the Polo after 18 months for a 1993 Porsche 928GTS - haha, slight difference in performance...Loved that car (even though it wasn't a 911) and can't believe what sort of money they're going for now (oh for 20-20 hindsight). Whatever, still looking after my 1996 993 Carrera and a rather lovely (rust-free 1-owner) 1986 BMW 635CSi. I'm sure my wife thinks I'm mad...Cheers again from a miserable, drizzly, Otford, Kent.
The kick at around 3500/4000 rpm was the real blast with the SC. It totally dispeared in the 3.2 which had a totally linear acceleration.. never quite liked the 3.2
I agree about the horsepower discussion. Its really gone inflated beyond reason. And at the same time people have stopped talking about the driving experience. One of my recent most enjoyable driving experience was in a Peugeot Partner with the non turbo diesel. With only 75 diesel hp you really need to work to get it going. I found it very enjoyable to drive! Ridiculous I know but still 😁
IMHO, never having driven or owned a Porsche (and frankly not being a fan growing up), I think the only people whose opinions count on which is better and more desirable to own, are those who have driven and/or owned both. To me, the first 911 I ever wanted to drive was the 930. I think the nicest looking/prettiest 911 in the 993. My 2nd choice would be the 964 (930 or not). If I were a multi-millionaire/billionaire, I would own at least one example of every model and/or trim level (yes including the 924 and 914) and then drive each for my opinion. In which case, I would probably want the Carrera GT and a manual gearboxed 928. From a practicality standpoint and to answer your question (and given my caveats), I'd rather have the 964. Great video. Agree with your assessment of "Why is the Porsche 911 SC so cheap?"
It's strange how the different model ranges have been re-valued over the years. At one time, at least in the U.S., the 2.7 liter cars and the 964 were the black-sheep, mostly because of oil leaking issues and the 964 was criticized for the body clading addition and other problems with the mechanical changes. The thing to keep in mind is that every evolution keeps getting heaver and heaver and heaver, unfortunately, and the 964 is 385 LBS heavier than the SC (ugh)! Weight is the enemy of .....everything. I believe the biggest reason for the 964 markup is that Singer and the high dollar customizers have been snapping them up for their purposes.
I'm currently restoring an SC coupe, and I'm looking forward to getting it finished. I'm not sure they're rising in value if anything values seem to have dropped a bit. But I hope you're right and I'm wrong!
I've just bought a scruffy 3.2 Carrera, so not exactly the subject here but definitely closely related.. I would have been equally happy with an SC but this one came up at shed money. Any it's brilliant, to me the impact bumpers don't detract from the looks in way a rubber bumper MG does, and from the second I get in turn the key there is nothing that compares to the feel and sound of an air cooled 911. It's fast enough, and properly involving to drive and I hope to keep it for as long as possible
The SC was born, developing 180hp, and was to close the existence of the 911. The SC succeeded the 911 Carrera (which produced 200hp). Then, thanks to the 911 faithful, who shunned the 944 and 928, Porsche changed its mind, and went back to developing the SC, successively increasing it to 188, then 204hp, before handing over to the Carrera 3.2L, which developed 231hp. So, the first SC is a regression of the Carrera 3.0L, and deserves to be called a Sub-Carrera ! 😉
Would really appreciate an opinion...I like the look of a g-model more than 964/993, but I would like to have some of the ''modern'' stuff that 964 and later 993 had. My question, should I rather look for a 964/993 or should I look for a cheaper SC/3.2 and invest that difference in price in upgrading brakes,suspension,interior,engine tuning? Is it worth it?😀 Thanks!
Hi. There’s a big difference between a 3.2 Carrera price vs a 964. So it depends if you have budget for the latter - now around £80k in the U.K. for a decent one. At £50k for a good G body you could add coil-overs (nicely lowered), a short-shift (buy a car with a G50 box) and bigger brakes, all for less than £10k. So you’d end up with an improved G body for still less than a 964. Plus, you’ll have a much bigger choice of G bodies than 964s. PS. IMO, invest in wheels. Wheels and stance maketh the car.
Had a few air cooled 911’s, a 74 model and an 83, 1991 964, all of which I sold a few years ago before the prices rose. The SC was always the ugly duckling for some reason even back then, I have an 81 model SC which was converted in the 80’s as a 959 replica. There were plenty of the older cars years ago made to look newer, 964 parts and 993 parts, I wonder if the6 have been converted back again? My 959 rep certainly won’t be worth the values of even a rough SC as it’s been converted into something it isnt, but it certainly turns heads and is a bit of fun. Last one I saw for sale fetched around 25k.
I have a 2006 Lotus Exige, so I definitely understand the joy of a capable, one ton, manual car with 180-ish horse power. It's fantastic. But let's not pretend a modern car with a lot more horse power can't also be a bucket full of fun. Having a lot of power does not necessarily mean a car is a "point and shoot" machine. I also have a 2019 991.2 GT3RS, and it's also fantastic. Not MORE fantastic than the Lotus, but also not LESS fantastic. They're both genius but in different ways. I street drive AND track them both regularly, so I'm familiar with their driving dynamic pros and cons across the range from easy cruising to full on attack mode. They both promptly provide big grins on my face whenever they are asked, despite how different they are.
Having owned and restored a 77 911 and upgraded the engine to a SC engine. The engine is reliable but the CIS fuel injection is problematic. This engines fuel injection makes it a bad collector car. CIS operates better when you daily drive it. Otherwise you will develop issues. Also the 915 transmission in today’s driving environment pushes you to shift faster than the transmission likes . So you will either destroy your synchros by shifting to fast or you will upset folks around you for being to slow. Wanted to put carbs on it discovered the SC engine doesn’t like carbs. So decided to sell it.
This car unfortunately is the body design i love and thst aircooled,its bulletproof and for me its so down to earth it almost feels organic and not a bundle of troublesome electronics.
You can see just how small these cars are at 9:42, it looks tiny! Small cars = more fun! And the SC is truly a great car if you can deal with the Bosch K Jetronic system (I got tired of it and installed EFI).
To Fuhrmann's credit, he was the father of the 930 and the 928. Dumb decision to try to replace a small sports car with a grand tourer though, they are different cars..should have just maintained they would sell both in their model lineup indefinitely. Which they did until 1995 when the cost of producing the 928 became far too expensive. They needed the Boxster/996 by that point as they were in financial trouble.
Absolute stunning car. Everywhere you drive them people love them. They are the perfect balance between being sporty and stylish, without being in your face! 996 is definitely the least liked 911!
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A bit over 6 years I was between a Subaru BRZ and a 911sc.. both were the same money and both had similar performance stats. I bought the 911sc and have been loving it ever since! Best choice I made in my life!
My first 911, in 1982, was a 1978 911SC Sport in Petrol Blue and the same Cork interior as yours. Excellent memories
I just bought a 1978 911 SC in Petrol Blue with Cork interior. Not a sport though. Just drove it for the first time this weekend and absolutely love it!
Nice video. I own a 911S from 1976. I have to be honest, main reason for me is the look of the car. The younger ones are for sure better performing but I like the 70s models. It took me 5 years to get my car perfect. And I do not want to imagine how much it might cost and take to restore a younger Porsche. What is not there will not break. I love the pure driving experience of a 100% mechanical car.
I have a 3.2 M491 Targa and a 997.2 C4S 6-sp Cabrio. I also have 3 105’s Alfas. I’m just as happy tootling along in my 90hp 1966 Alfa Guilia Ti as I am in the 997. It’s about enjoying these cars for their sheer beauty and engineering marvel. I get a thrill out of each one. Throws you back in time when designers and engineers worked to produce unique machines for a much smaller market. When I drive my old school cars, I’m transported to a gentleman player of that time. They are very cool.
I love my 1980 911SC. It truly is a drivers car and is dependable!
Honestly that era Porsche 911 is my dream car. first fast car I ever rode in as a kid. My dads best friend back in 1978 had one and took me for a ride when I was 12 . Before we got off the entrance ramp to interstate 64 in southern Indiana we were doing 130 mph and he never banged 1 gear. smooth shifts. car pulled hard way upstairs between shifts. pinned in the seat. my dad had just tuned the carbs. my dad is a British car guy so he never owned one but that car made one hell of an impression on me. When I finally stop racing motocross and XC races on motorcycles I will likely pick one up. I would only want that era 911
So many stories like yours out there. Mine was as an 8 year old boy in Germany in my Uncle's 911. The sounds and smells are etched in my memory :)
I live in Indy and have taken that WB ramp from I-65 to I-64 circa 1991. And again en route to Santa Claus, IN many years later. As I recall it was (not sure if it was recently redesigned) a medium sweeper with a 50mph limit?? So 130mph makes me cringe. I have to say, that may have been considered child endangerment (read as I'm green with envy).
What a breath of fresh air. A fantastic video full of great dialog and perfectly on point that you don't meed high HP to enjoy driving. Really enjoyed this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
He comes off as a know it all prick
I wouldn't give him the time of day at a Porsche meet
I couldn't agree more my friend. Who really needs 1000BHP in a road car? I was lucky enough to own a 1995 Ferrari F355 with a 'mere' 380BHP and boy was that enough! My little 1996 993 Carrera has 'only' 285 BHP but that certainly feels fast enough in any normal conditions! Loving the vid, cheers from a rather drizzly Otford, Kent, UK.
I have a 993 C4 so I'm curious to know how the 993 compares to the F355?
@@shadwelthames9416 Good question! The best thing about the 993 compared to the 355 is that my wife likes it...Seriously though, they are very different animals, obviously the 993 is a rear-engine air/oil-cooled flat 6 compared to the mid-engine water-cooled V8 355. They both sound amazing but the 355 really screams above 6000rpm even with the factory standard exhaust. Mid-range torque is more noticeable in the 993 (mine's a later varioram version) but that just gives you an excuse to wring the 355's neck...The 993 definitely has better steering. The 355's just felt a little light compared to the 348's manual setup. The BIG difference between them are maintenance costs. The 355 is hilariously expensive to maintain, even at independent specialist prices (I had mine for 11 years - ouch) and don't forget the infamous 'engine-out' cambelt change every 3 years. I get the 993 serviced at a local Porsche specialist and even the 'big' service is under £1000.
The 993 probably slightly shades the 355 in terms of build quality but they are both very well-engineered machines.
Hope you continue to enjoy your Carerra4.
I thought the less loved 911 and the mongrel was the 996, the SC is a very nice car no comparison, beautiful car mate!!
Enjoyable video thanks, i had a 997.2 then I bought a 1983 SC about 5 yrs ago to go along side it, I paid £50k for it, which was enough money, but it had a box file full of everything it’s had done since day one, bodywork completely restored, engine had been rebuilt some yrs previous, still pulls like a train, interior is original but still very tidy, if I’m honest I’ve probably spent another £10k on it, transmission rebuilt, suspension, engine tin wear, tyres etc etc so I’m most likely in negative equity with it for the foreseeable future but I don’t regret a penny because I love it and never plan to sell it, unlike my 997 which I’ve now sold and honestly don’t miss it at all.
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Awesome, thank you!
The 78:SC saved Porsche after the disastrous 75-77 thermal reactor cars that burned up their engines. The SC had two problems corrected in 1980. Porsche used hydraulic chain tensioners (instead of mechanical). When they failed, the engine usually suffered sever damage. They also used rubber center clutch plates (to cut down on noise). These would shred causing serious engine overheating revs.
In the US I don't think SCs have ever been unloved. That title goes to the mid-year 74 to 77 cars with narrow rear quarters and the 2.7 that had a bunch of problems. The 3 liter SC engine has always had a reputation for being bulletproof.
Agree! The mag case mid-year cars are definitely the cheaper ones, but also for a reason.
I agree exactly with your analysis and for the same reasons.
You took the words right out of my mouth 😂. My first 911 was a used 1980 SC. Had it 11 years with no issues.
good to know.
I want an SC but I'd have to become a racer so I could write off the purchase to be able to buy the thing.
My 1981 SC has 455k miles...Los Angeles brawler...engine rebuilt at 400k miles...just refreshed it at 455k miles.....new tranny and all DIY...40 years with 914-6, 911T's.....but THIS is a machine, my Gretchen...I entirely agree with you that it is not numbers output HP..PDK...ETC... but the nuance and unique feel that an analog car delivers...yes manual indeed!!....I will take an SC over more modern ....if not, drive an iPhone with wheels, a Tesla...oh please not men. Excellent video thank you so much....
The most unloved, underrated and undervalued Porsche 911 ever; that would be the 996 silly.
With the ugly fried egg headlamps?
@@Jim-wr9iz So many people have converted the fried egg headlamps to the later style that the fried egg style is becoming a bit of a novelty. Almost everyone hated it at first, but now after 25 years it somehow doesn't look as bad anymore. Personally, the last time I saw one I thought it looked kind of nice, interesting, different. But it definitely depends on the color of the paint on the car. It seems to look better on the yellow or silver cars imo. Not so great with red. With black it's a toss up, as compared to the conversion lights.
Two things I did when I owned 911SCs....change gearbox oil for Swepco....amazing difference.. Also change for oil fed tensioner....I drove mine as daily...year round. A bulletproof 911.
Great advice, thanks
No matter what you say, these are the BEST looking 911's of all.
The brilliant Porsche engineers transferred the rust from the body (galvanization started happening around ‘76) to the lower (Dilavar) head studs. Brilliant. Just like transferring the engine wear from the piston rings to the Alusil cylinder walls. Brilliant.
I've been searching high and low to find which cars have the character you're describing between 6:50 and 11:02, and it's honestly shocking how few I've been able to find, just about 3 or 4 cars so far (I'm sure there are more to be found, but the point is that they're really rare). Love your take here
My first running Porsche was an SC.... A super reliable God send from Stuttgart. I made 20k after owning the car for just over 2 years too. I miss it.
I worked at a Porsche dismantler for a bunch years specializing in the 911s. I would not compare the 964 chassis to Carreras. They are abaout as different as the 964 is to the 996. The 964 chassis really is very different from the other 911's. The tunnel in the center made them alot stiffer and the coilover/strut suspension over the torsion bar setup is a huge difference too and why i prefered them. None of the steel panels are the same below the roof with the exception of the doors and front hood which were G50 revisions. (doors added single wiring harness hole, hood got washer nozzle holes). 2WD Brake boosters got stuck in between the front wheels instead of under the hood like Carreras. There is very little difference between 74-89 911's. Biggest i would say is G50 cars rear suspension Xmember had an indent to fit the G50 trans. Otherwise most everything else was cosmetic changes and engine displacement. 915 trans were just revisions over the years until the G50 showed up. Top tip, the width of the 964 at the rocker panel seams varied by 5/8" between about 12x 964s i measured. "Handmade"
Great detail, thanks
There was a spate of chain tensioner failures 1977 - 80 due to the factory engine builders over shimming the valve springs which subsequently went coil bound and collapsed the chain tensioners I rebuilt a lot of engine during this time once rectified the original tensioners were not a problem.
You can eliminate this problem by upgrading to the hydraulic tensioners from the 3.2 carrera engine. It's fairly easy to do
Beautiful things they are ..a piece of art in my eyes😊
The SC is a lovely car and regret selling mine 😢and miss it dearly,but could never pay £40-£50k grand today for one, after paying £12k for one in the early 2000s with £6k rebuilt motor,when you can get a good 997 for £20-25k today.. ok not quite the same but no way a 50% lesser car..
Had my 75 911S 2.7 since 1986. I had engine rebuilt in 1988 with carrera tensioners / oil inject gear and installed a large front fender air cooler with fan and fender scoop, 11 blade fan, and have enjoyed the heck out of the lightweight, raw, revy engine and transmission ever since. Many 2.7s ran hot too long. Those that work are fun. Yes, a rebuild these days is very pricey.
US model
Yes I love 964 too don't mind to ve this too.❤❤❤
My first time going to the NYC Auto Show was in the mid eighties...the G series era....that will always be my ideal 911....along with the 964/993
I had 2 ! Loved them, but....... be very very careful in the wet !
Took the converters out and replaced with straight through look alikes. Use a variable resistor to control fuel consumption. Used a stainless push switch for the starter eliminating the annoying switching with the key on and off. PITA. OK twin 12 inch subs and 5 inch in the doors with twin 600 watts amps, Supertramp is required by law. Oh, and the horsepower is now around 235.
Great video. Interesting that the guy said he flew up to Manchester as I sold my SC to a fella who did the same in 96 and I sold it for 8k and he drove it back to Surrey. May be the same bloke. I had mine from 91 to 96. MDF 643V in gold with the rubber spoiler. The car is in London now and you can google it. Sold at Silverstone auction's for 34k a few years ago. I loved the owning experience 😊
That car’s a beauty! LOVE the Fuchs.
I had an 1981 911sc in the early 2000’s , bought from a main dealer who had shiny 996 in the showroom, I loved it, had for a few years, bought for £12k and sold for £9k , the only downside was the petrol consumption, it was 100% reliable. I’ve just sold a 997 which is a great car, but it’s not the same as air cooled raw driving.
Beautiful car. Keep the secret to the SC quiet!
964 on Fuchs wheels looks incredible. As for the most underrated and undervalued 911, I'd go with an early 996 3.4 Manual C2. Light and very very quick. Plus, not marred with the same reliability issues as the latest cars
I own a 1981 SC and a 964C2. The 964 is a far more easy and cheaper car to modify to your personal taste, making it easier to create the driving experience that you require. The engine is much stronger and the gearbox far better. For not a huge - relative - budget, my car is dynamically better than a 964RS which is almost twice the cost to buy. Based on that, the basic 964 remains good value. It gives a dynamic driving experience which is close to pinnacle air cooled. The problem is that - largely because of this - 964 values have risen to a level where the preservation of the vehicle in terms of where it’s parked etc. are becoming a larger factor. It can longer be justified as a beautifully engaging and dynamic daily driver. The SC on the other hand - whilst much more compromised dynamically- still delivers a good level of analog air cooled involvement at half of the cost.
Which is the better car? The 964. Which car do I drive more often? The SC.
When I restored my SC I had the shell seam-welded and fitted with an integrated roll cage hidden behind the trim. This has stiffened the shell 70% so I could ditch the torsion bar suspension for KW coil overs dialled in for comfort. I also fitted 930 Turbo brakes and the GT3 front subframe from Elephant Racing. The rebuilt motor is 3.4 litres with twin-plug heads and Audi TT coil packs in place of the distributor. Control comes from a MoTec M400 ECU that provides fully mapped fuelling and ignition for 300hp with better fuel economy, lower emissions and far superior driveability to the original 204hp engine. This is my personal take on a 1,070kg air-cooled 911 without the Million Dollar price tag of a Singer!
When I bought my 83 SC I was looking at 964s also. This was in 2019 and the 964 was already quite expensive compared to an SC. The SC appealed more to me because it seemed very approachable for making my own.
A lot of the things the 964 improved can be done to the SC. G50 swap, ditch the impact bumpers, coilovers, brakes, the sky is the limit with the 3.0, etc. I think a lot of the decision comes down to if you do some of the work yourself or if you are hiring all of it out. Paying for all these upgrades is expensive but doing it yourself is very reasonable.
Restomod industry has pushed the 964 prices up, including the engine and gearbox. They backdate the 964 to pre impact bumper models, modify the engine to make more power and sell them for high six figure prices. The great thing about the SC is that they’re all over 40 years old and you don’t need, VED, MoT or pay ULEZ charges and the ground clearance is high enough to clear excessively high speed bumps and narrow width restrictors.
Porsche 911 sc is absolutely stunning
Oh I had four 911 SC one was a cabriolet in white with black roof being a new one from AFN in London all of them just servicing only all reliable and it didn’t matter what the weather you got in and turn that key that engine burst into life !
Amazing beautiful cars to drive my only complaint , Pirelli P7 tyres on the rear use to wear out however you drove in just a few thousand miles and back in the day those tyres were very expensive . Nothing beat that push in the back accelerating in first gear ! She would rev round to the red line and didn’t sound thrashed at all with power and torque from low down all the way to around 6,800 revs .
The early 911 ‘s I had all suffered from heat exchangers needed replacing which was an expensive job in labour it was either that or no heating ! Air cooled era for me the best .
A friend turned up with a 488 and I drove it on my favourite A and B roads. Stupidly fast and ridiculously capable.
Did the same roads in a TVR Cerbera, a couple of weeks later and enjoyed it more.
Great video - thanks! And I LOVE your 964. I have a 1989 C4 with hotter cams. It’s great. what’s up with your fan - it looks fuzzy haha! The 964 is supposed to have 80% different parts - not sure about that. The twin plug makes a huge difference in performance, but I don’t know it’s twice the price of an SC, which are great too! The 964 is quite a modern car, with a real AC and proper power, with assisted steering and brakes.
I've driven virtually all classic production Porsches and the SC is BY FAR my favourite. I've owned the 2 different series and i still regret my series 2 to this day...
Not here in Australia, all 911 SCs are expensive. They range from a low of $72K up to $190k. With the majority for sale well north of $140K. So no, they aren’t unloved nor cheap.
everything in Australia is expensive. I feel for ya.
Wait till you come to New Zealand 😅@@herrfinke1
Quick look in the classifieds, you're looking between 50-85k euros. These are loved cars. I used to holiday in Ketllewell with my parents, there was a pacific blue sc in the square, must have been owned by a local person, think it was a 86' or 87' car it was quite new at the time, a touch out of place but not at the same time. Stunning car with no rear wing.
And even cheaper here in the U.S.! :) Had my first trip to England October 2023. Such nice people. Ever pub visit involved exchanges of numbers/email addresses. Exceeded my expectations.
Nice video, well done!
i'm an air cooled guy 68 911 is my dream car love the video
Have always adored the 911 SC since I bought my brooklands book for the model in my mid 20s. They were so cheap for years that I promised myself I would buy one when I was older. Sadly even at £45k they're out of reach now. I love the styling and think the performance is in that sweet spot of being enough to enjoy and allow overtakes but not so much you risk a ban after 3 secs on the throttle. 204 bhp btw, same as the boxster 986 2.5 AND the original RWD Sierra cosworth. An iconic number for this petrolhead who grew up in the 70s and 80s but also loves the 90s porsches.....
My Dad had a Targa SC in 1980, paler blue than this one. Glorious in N Wales.
My Mgbv8 us nearly 200hp same weight, plenty fast enough. Owes me 12 grand. New 3.9 Rover ,cosworth t5 gearbox. All parts available and cheap. Similar looking.
I'd have an SC on a heartbeat though if I could afford it 😊
These cars certainly teach you a thing or two about how to drive, select the correct gears, and best of all - speed matching the engine, road speed and gear speed! Especially in a 915 5 speed with a wirn 2nd gear synchro (which they all have)
Besides the initial rubber clutch and chain tensioner issues, these cars have been known to be bullet proof. Fantastic model - the 911SC!
Well done on this. The 911 SC remains a good value, perhaps underpriced. I would attribute the 964s premium both to its looks - losing the accordion bumpers - but mostly because it’s classic and somewhat modern. It works both as a weekend canyon carver and everyday driver. There are few classic cars that can do this.
I agree. I purchased a 1991 Carrera 2 in 1997 and in my minds eye at the time, an 911sc was an old Porsche. It was a different time and I was also younger and impressionable. That 18K mile 964 Carrera 2 cost me $38,000 at the time for perspective. I never knew the older Porsche's didn't use gaskets around the engine! WOW!
I'm yet to see a nice SC Coupe under £50k. Sure there's plenty of rotten, 13 owner, moon and back mileage dogs about, but nice ones don't seem to be much cheaper than an equivalent 3.2 Carrera. I can't say I subscribe to the concept they are undervalued.
You sound like a pro car journalist…. I love it
Agreed. I bought a nice example last summer for $58,000 USD.
You ever been to a track and gap and lap your lesser car dogs?
Thank You, my dream........... I love them! ❤❤❤ Very good video!!!!!!
Thank you so much!
I love 1990's 993 etc............for the body and to the last air cooled engines !!!
Had a 1979 targa I bought in 1989 I rebuilt the whole car should have never sold it!! Too bad I can’t share a photo was a stunning car
Surely the 996 is the most unloved
Maybe. I'd like to see a vote! ;)
No doubt…except by anyone who has ever owned one-fried eggs headlights and all!
Love the look of the SC
Fantastic Porsche
Someday, maybe people start to appreciate the 996. That was the last generation of fully analog 911s.
Not much difference between 996 and 997
One of these, with some proper ol'school tuning would give like 300 bhp at the wheels. And - in my taste - rid of the rubber lip and add a more modern active aero lip, the one that's flush with the decklid not actuated. THAT would be a Cracker❣️ So good buying tips. And God bless good ol' N/A engines and manual shifting 🙏 They (almost) don't make'm like that anymore..😢
Had a 78 SC that was flawless
I agree with everything you said mainly about these electronic powered cars with fake sounds and PDK, nothing beat a manual transmission on a BoxEngine flat six naturally aspirated engine.
Have a beautiful wide body 964. Couldn’t even consider doing the dirt and driving another
I’d love to have one when I have more space in the garage but my 992 is pretty great for daily driving with the pdk and heated/cooled seats etc
I'm a proud owner of a 1983 911 SC.
Which has had a nut and bolt restoration, gear box and engine rebuild, window out resprayed 'floor pan, internally', new 16" fuch wheels and tyre's.
I also own a 991.1 50th anniversary 911 PDK .
Which one I find the most fun to drive "of course the SC"!
The 991.1 is a lovely looking car but boring to drive until you put your right foot down.
How much would you sell the SC for?
These cars are unreasonably expensive in the US. In fact all vintage cars seem much more money here vs UK.
If I could find a healthy, well-loved, low mile, late in the run (‘84-85) un-modified unit for under $50kUS, I’d trade my Boxster in a minute. Especially now there are some useful AC products for them. It’s way too hot in the South without.
Me again, sorry...bought a 1990 964 Carrera 4 back in 1994 from Porsche in Maidstone (from Henry Cooper's son no less!) for £29K. Took it up to Scotland (all the way to John 'O Groats and the Isle of Skye and back to Kent via the Lake district (boy, did it rain!). Did just over 2000 miles in 2 weeks and enjoyed the hell out of it (even my girlfriend - now wife - did). Performed faultlessly and only sold it in 1995 because my bank manager was on my case...Swapped it for a new 1.6CL VW Polo (don't laugh, I needed the money). Got shot of the Polo after 18 months for a 1993 Porsche 928GTS - haha, slight difference in performance...Loved that car (even though it wasn't a 911) and can't believe what sort of money they're going for now (oh for 20-20 hindsight). Whatever, still looking after my 1996 993 Carrera and a rather lovely (rust-free 1-owner) 1986 BMW 635CSi. I'm sure my wife thinks I'm mad...Cheers again from a miserable, drizzly, Otford, Kent.
A great Porsche journey. Thanks for sharing
The kick at around 3500/4000 rpm was the real blast with the SC. It totally dispeared in the 3.2 which had a totally linear acceleration.. never quite liked the 3.2
I agree about the horsepower discussion. Its really gone inflated beyond reason.
And at the same time people have stopped talking about the driving experience.
One of my recent most enjoyable driving experience was in a Peugeot Partner with the non turbo diesel. With only 75 diesel hp you really need to work to get it going. I found it very enjoyable to drive!
Ridiculous I know but still 😁
Loved my 83sc, wish I still had it
IMHO, never having driven or owned a Porsche (and frankly not being a fan growing up), I think the only people whose opinions count on which is better and more desirable to own, are those who have driven and/or owned both. To me, the first 911 I ever wanted to drive was the 930. I think the nicest looking/prettiest 911 in the 993. My 2nd choice would be the 964 (930 or not). If I were a multi-millionaire/billionaire, I would own at least one example of every model and/or trim level (yes including the 924 and 914) and then drive each for my opinion. In which case, I would probably want the Carrera GT and a manual gearboxed 928. From a practicality standpoint and to answer your question (and given my caveats), I'd rather have the 964. Great video. Agree with your assessment of "Why is the Porsche 911 SC so cheap?"
As I continue to save up for mine I kindly ask you not let everyone know that these are undervalued 🤣
It's strange how the different model ranges have been re-valued over the years. At one time, at least in the U.S., the 2.7 liter cars and the 964 were the black-sheep, mostly because of oil leaking issues and the 964 was criticized for the body clading addition and other problems with the mechanical changes. The thing to keep in mind is that every evolution keeps getting heaver and heaver and heaver, unfortunately, and the 964 is 385 LBS heavier than the SC (ugh)! Weight is the enemy of .....everything. I believe the biggest reason for the 964 markup is that Singer and the high dollar customizers have been snapping them up for their purposes.
I'm currently restoring an SC coupe, and I'm looking forward to getting it finished.
I'm not sure they're rising in value if anything values seem to have dropped a bit.
But I hope you're right and I'm wrong!
I've just bought a scruffy 3.2 Carrera, so not exactly the subject here but definitely closely related.. I would have been equally happy with an SC but this one came up at shed money. Any it's brilliant, to me the impact bumpers don't detract from the looks in way a rubber bumper MG does, and from the second I get in turn the key there is nothing that compares to the feel and sound of an air cooled 911. It's fast enough, and properly involving to drive and I hope to keep it for as long as possible
Hello, can you please tell me the exact wheel dimensions and style please on the carrera 2 and where to buy.
Definitely prefer the air cooled 911s
Went to that Porsche meet at Westerham brewery a few months ago.
A good meet and definitely a right mix of cars.
The SC was there a few weekends ago with several others in convoy!
The SC was born, developing 180hp, and was to close the existence of the 911. The SC succeeded the 911 Carrera (which produced 200hp). Then, thanks to the 911 faithful, who shunned the 944 and 928, Porsche changed its mind, and went back to developing the SC, successively increasing it to 188, then 204hp, before handing over to the Carrera 3.2L, which developed 231hp.
So, the first SC is a regression of the Carrera 3.0L, and deserves to be called a Sub-Carrera ! 😉
she is still one of the most gorgeous cars ever born.
Would really appreciate an opinion...I like the look of a g-model more than 964/993, but I would like to have some of the ''modern'' stuff that 964 and later 993 had. My question, should I rather look for a 964/993 or should I look for a cheaper SC/3.2 and invest that difference in price in upgrading brakes,suspension,interior,engine tuning? Is it worth it?😀 Thanks!
Hi. There’s a big difference between a 3.2 Carrera price vs a 964. So it depends if you have budget for the latter - now around £80k in the U.K. for a decent one.
At £50k for a good G body you could add coil-overs (nicely lowered), a short-shift (buy a car with a G50 box) and bigger brakes, all for less than £10k. So you’d end up with an improved G body for still less than a 964.
Plus, you’ll have a much bigger choice of G bodies than 964s.
PS. IMO, invest in wheels. Wheels and stance maketh the car.
@@Porschenomics Thank you for the comment. Best regards
I hope in Stuttgart they make a 911 with a 964 front and 993 back 😍
Had a few air cooled 911’s, a 74 model and an 83, 1991 964, all of which I sold a few years ago before the prices rose. The SC was always the ugly duckling for some reason even back then, I have an 81 model SC which was converted in the 80’s as a 959 replica. There were plenty of the older cars years ago made to look newer, 964 parts and 993 parts, I wonder if the6 have been converted back again? My 959 rep certainly won’t be worth the values of even a rough SC as it’s been converted into something it isnt, but it certainly turns heads and is a bit of fun. Last one I saw for sale fetched around 25k.
Some years ago it was the 996, then the 964 and now the SC! Next week is going to be?
Going by values it's still the 996..
@@SpencerF6 😥
0:44 Why they burning up the clutches??
I have a 2006 Lotus Exige, so I definitely understand the joy of a capable, one ton, manual car with 180-ish horse power. It's fantastic. But let's not pretend a modern car with a lot more horse power can't also be a bucket full of fun. Having a lot of power does not necessarily mean a car is a "point and shoot" machine. I also have a 2019 991.2 GT3RS, and it's also fantastic. Not MORE fantastic than the Lotus, but also not LESS fantastic. They're both genius but in different ways. I street drive AND track them both regularly, so I'm familiar with their driving dynamic pros and cons across the range from easy cruising to full on attack mode. They both promptly provide big grins on my face whenever they are asked, despite how different they are.
Having owned and restored a 77 911 and upgraded the engine to a SC engine. The engine is reliable but the CIS fuel injection is problematic. This engines fuel injection makes it a bad collector car. CIS operates better when you daily drive it. Otherwise you will develop issues. Also the 915 transmission in today’s driving environment pushes you to shift faster than the transmission likes . So you will either destroy your synchros by shifting to fast or you will upset folks around you for being to slow. Wanted to put carbs on it discovered the SC engine doesn’t like carbs. So decided to sell it.
I totally agree...A real drivers car...
In the US a good 964 goes for a lot more money.
This car unfortunately is the body design i love and thst aircooled,its bulletproof and for me its so down to earth it almost feels organic and not a bundle of troublesome electronics.
Super Cool 911 3.2 summary and comparison etc 👏Well done!
The mid-year 74-77 have always been the most unloved, underrated and undervalued Porsche 911 ever. Until the 996.
You can see just how small these cars are at 9:42, it looks tiny! Small cars = more fun! And the SC is truly a great car if you can deal with the Bosch K Jetronic system (I got tired of it and installed EFI).
Are those fuchs replicas? In polished aluminium and painted pockets, or diamond cut face?
its actually the 911 that i do like
To Fuhrmann's credit, he was the father of the 930 and the 928. Dumb decision to try to replace a small sports car with a grand tourer though, they are different cars..should have just maintained they would sell both in their model lineup indefinitely. Which they did until 1995 when the cost of producing the 928 became far too expensive. They needed the Boxster/996 by that point as they were in financial trouble.
Absolute stunning car. Everywhere you drive them people love them. They are the perfect balance between being sporty and stylish, without being in your face!
996 is definitely the least liked 911!
I love my 79 SC.
Wonderful review- says a 3.2 owner. SC's are great
How can anyone call an SC "unloved...and undervalued?" Clean ones are going for $75-80K!
Hi Russel, how does it compare to your 964?
Therein lies the video
@@Porschenomics I really should have watched to the end before asking the question! Great video, thanks! :D
Can you do a video on my 924S to lift the price so that I can trade it for an SC? 😉