This again is what I expect from you guys. Well informed and useful guidance. I'd like to also see GH6 vs. S5 and also let's just put it out there...the A7S3.
@@JKastle007 No C4k, barely native Sony lenses with no breathing, no waveform, no shutter angle, high detail loss at high iso, poor skin tones, more inflexible screen, slog is much worse to grade than vlog, poor menu navigation etc. A7SIII is twice as expensive. I would always choose the GH6 over the overpriced A7SIII.
@@db6572 Semantics and purely subjective. Speaking from experience Vlog is not better to grade than Slog. ISO performance on the A7S3 is great. Simply cranking up the iso on any camera will affect image quality. At the end of the day a full frame sensor will always best a M4/3 sensor. Agreed of the price point but in that case go with a S5 or A74.
thank you for this unbiased review. and to me the auto focus looks real good i didn't see any pulsing and i was watching on a 75 inch TV... i have 3 GH5's this is a HUGE improvement on something that wasn't as bad as many claim...(i learned how to get the best out of the older DFD) those that are haters go ahead get a different camera but for those of us that will use the gh6 daily better for us! this camera is more of a game changer than many are giving credit.....
Yes please, I am interested in both. In reality I am interested in G9 mk ii/vs OM-1 but the GH6 gives us an insight of what my G9 successor could be. I like what I see in the GH6. I can imagine what a GH6 stripped down of video features could be. Oh Panasonic please, just do it. And DPReview please make that comparision.
You guys have become the very very best at this kind of review. Really clear, well organised and useful info. Keep at it! You are THE best source of help for vloggers and you tubers.
I'd love to see gh6 + vazen 28 handeld only videos. Shooting anamorphic with no gimbal in a relatively small handheld package is wild. No one could do this type of setup years ago. It's game changing.
Thanks for the review. Exactly what i was looking for.. I love how you always let us know what camera you are using to shoot your footage. It speaks a lot on itself.. Please compare the GH6 and OM1, next!!
They aren’t very comparable IMO. Video shooting will go to GH6 is almost all settings (except perhaps where AF is very necessary) Photography, most will go to OM-1 (except maybe where resolution is most important. GH6 has higher native sensor resolution but also the 100MP works handheld - and seems to work very well)
I have both the GH6 and the S1, the GH6 is fantastic in daylight ! But also surprisingly clean in low light till ISO 3200, but in order to get this performance, it uses a lot of noise reduction (like Sony) and detail filtering. The result is a not very detailed picture in 4K in low light even at ISO 200, some area are ok, but some don't, it is weird, a bit like Samsung did with the NX1 (For connoisseurs). A few people talk about this but it is obvious when comparing with the GH5 or the S1. It is very good for people who like soft and clean footage straight out of camera but it could be nice to get a firmware update to have the possibility to reduce even more the noise reduction and the details filtering.
Great comparison! I was watching and overall really enjoyed it. Client work will be fine even with Autofocus and GH6 as many dont notice the issues. There was one spot I personally noticed at 10:18 with autofocus getting soft but I am a pro and doubt that any customer would notice or care. UA-camrs blow the autofocus issues way out of proportion. If you are talking the top pros for major commercial clients then yes, they need something better like Sony A7S iii but at that level you should be (and most I work with do) use a Sony FS7, FX6 or similar, a Sony FX3 is passable at that level and Sony A7S iii is barely an option but still a contender before we talk about RED cameras at the top pro level. For most average client work, we are talking local commercials, budgets of less than $10K, the GH6 will be more than adequate for that. Dont hassle yourself on specs. I purchased the Sony A7IV only to return it because I do think that camera is overpriced for what it is. They really call it a "beginner" and even "student" camera when I was in the photo store which is crazy to me with the price it is but when using it I see why they say that. So I do think that is priced how it should be but is overpriced if that makes sense. The GH6 will nail it for years to come with all the photo modes and the worst news is that it works the same autofocus-wise as the GH5 which every single GH5 owner does not care about. Sure, they are losing some Canon and Sony crossover who want to switch over but at this point Panasonic seems more inclined to take care of their existing user base which is fine by me. If they happen to figure out the autofocus issue in the future then that is just gravy for us fanboys.
I agree with you. I also think that slight focus softness at that time isn’t any worse than what we would see anyway if the camera was just set to AF anyway and Jordan made natural small moves back and forth. While they are better, even the best Sony and Canon systems still have their issues here and there. They also seem to have a more obvious snap into position (that I haven’t yet seen in GH6 footage)
As a GH5 owner, I absolutely care about AF. I’m not sure which clients you’ve working with but “Soft Autofocus” is an absolute deal breaker. What’s the point of dynamic range boost (which is a gimmick btw) when your image is out of focus? As a sports producer/documentary filmmaker, I will not be picking up the GH6 specifically for the terrible AF. It boggles my mind how Panasonic fanboys justify Panasonic refusal to update to a phase detect system. I’m a A7S3 user and will not switch back to Panasonic until they address their AF.
@@JKastle007 have you used other systems too for comparison? None are perfect. I agree GH and DFD are behind and less reliable, but none are anywhere near 100% for client work (without coverage of multicam)
@@walrusgumboot I’ve shot extensively with Canon’s cinema line and Blackmagic as well. Sony offers the best bang for buck of ANY camera brand today. Unless you’re shooting content exclusively for social media or youtube, I would not recommend a M4/3 system let alone the GH6. This could very well be Panasonic’s last M4/3 release. If you’re set on M4/3 then the OM-1 is the future of that system. Otherwise, make the switch and go full frame with the S5. The A74 is also in the same price range and would be a better option.
Thanks Jordan and Chris for another great review! If Panasonic would add these features -- especially the four channel audio and internal ProRes -- to the S1H Mark ii, they'd have an absolutely killer camera for doc work. Are there any indications when an S1H Mark ii might be coming? Later in 2022?
@@Whatsup_Abroad True. It does seem like a very capable doc camera. What the S1H mark II would add is better dynamic range and better low light capabilities (and hopefully internal ND!), which in doc settings would be very handy.
Internal pro res is very unlike because of SD card speed. The GH6 can’t record ProRes to its SD card, only the CFe. Not sure about 4ch audio. Maybe possible? They are different engines though and the GH6 now supports 24 bit 96khz so likely have a hardware change
All the S-Series cameras would work great for doc work, especially with that audio interface mentioned. 24p and some 60p are really all you need. Super high frame rates are nice to haves. And the timelapse feature is amazing on them too. It's already available.
Thanks Jordan for your video-user bias. It is so refreshing to hear actual usability reviews rather than spec sniffing like a truffle hunting pig on some other channels.
I'm an S1 shooter by why oh why can't Panasonic get auto-focusing right?! The world would be their oyster if they could nail focusing. But yes I am still hearing the siren song of the GH6, when I really should change systems for better auto-focusing. Ha. Keep up the awesome and entertaining work!.
Great Video. Thank you. Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
Punching-in while recording finally comes with GH6! A bit disappointed by still sticking to the contrast based system, but being able to punch in while recording will make MF shooting more exciting.
A good idea for an episode. Thanks. For my work (filming narratives), autofocus is a no-no. I do LOVE the IBIS because I'm in love with tracking shots and a steadicam might not be necessary. Super high frame rates are not important to me, but maybe 60 fps would be. Did you notice a magenta tint problem?
What resonates with me is 'what am I gonna grab to run out the door' and I totally agree that if I'm running outside to shoot a friend talking or something I'm taking the smaller, lighter camera. I love my s1h but sometimes the weight a bulk really get me down. HOWEVER, if I'm putting something on sticks and want a "cinematic" look, I'm absolutely taking the s1h. TLDR; gh6 handle run and gun champ, s1h is for set work
It will be really interesting for me to test GH6 vs. OM-1 for video quality - sharpness, DR, low light noise etc. I know that as video formats, profiles and tools GH6 is clear winner, as for AF and stabilisation is the OM, but how the actual picture is looking is very interesting.
At 7:11 you have reproduced a problem pointed out by Gerald Undone. Colour streaks of noise propagating from focus gear edges. And these are vertical, so it is not banding. Did you report it to Panasonic?
Here's hoping that the image processor in the S1, S1H and S5 has the headroom for another AF firmware update. Perhaps Panasonic will bring the AF improvements to these cameras, similar to when they'd brought the G9 and GH5 MKII improvements in firmware 2.0 for the S1 series.
The GH6 and the 10-25mm f1.7 is such a good pair for me. On my full frame camera I mainly use 20mm and 50mm at f3.5. I very rarely use continuous AF in video because Im using a Nikon D750 - so the GH6 focus tools and continuous AF in video would work fine for me.
Fascinating thanks for sharing! The real battle would be against the BGH1 that also has 13 stops of DR. I would love to see that comparison in 4k. 10MP big pixel pitch vs 24MP 5.7k downscaled.
I can only dream of and imagine if Panasonic joined Sony and it would have Sony's stellar auto-focus. YES, this might come in handy even for pro-filmmakers, BUT especially for "one man crew" like myself, where I have to watch out what I am filming, hold maybe a light in one hand and stuff like that... and a gimbal. Yeah... Almost made me jump ship, but... maybe later, when I am better at making videos. P.S. My first "video" camera was the T3i, where I had to MANUALLY focus all the time, with primes or the kit lens, so I know what manual focus is (used it for years), but, one only has to experience the auto-focus joy from Sony, to really understand what that means and why one would not go back to manual focus, if possible, like ever again...
I'd kinda lean towards GH6, just for the sake of keeping things compact. Yeah dynamic range is better in the big bro S1H but isn't a deal breaker for me. Also now that it has the tilt/flip out screen is perfect for what I do.
EXCELLENT review! Clear, concise, brief, great examples and editing. It's time to TRADE in my GH5 for the GH6! BTW, I bought my GH5 after I saw your recreation of the "funny how?" scene from Goodfellas! After this review and a few others, I'm realizing the GH6 provides the proverbial "most bang for the buck". I REALLY like the 4chan audio capabilities (you forget to mention the higher 96khz audio quality too) and the incredible IBIS! I might be able to sell my Ronin S gimble too! Question: The S1H is "Netflix approved", will the GH6 also be?
Ergonomics and UI play more of a factor than people give credit! Yes its not full frame but that doesnt mean its bad at all and if you can get a good image out of it easier than it will always win to me
spotted the Dji Mic RX/TX on the video :D when is that comming out ? the hissing noise is fixed ? I'm holding on buying the Rode before I get to test the offering from dji..
The AF is interesting. In this, I can't say I noticed enough focus hunting for it to be distracting. Whereas in other people's reviews, it's just been hunting all the time.
What if I don't care much about the rolling shutter and low light performance? Then GH6 would be amazing. I'm a proud owner of X-T4, but I won't mind adding GH6 to my arsenal. By the way, your videos are amazing. Signing off from a hot and humid India. You guys rock!
just sold my 10-25mm leica mft and bought an S5 with the 50mm f1.8. As you said, when it comes to low light and dynamic range, its david vs goliath . Autofocus looks really good here btw, didnt see any pulsing
Funny enough it is the panasonic 10 25 1.7 that interested me if I bought a GH6. The two lenses I use the most on my full frame DSLR are the 20mm and 50mm usually at f3.5. The 10-25 would have been ideal.
@@markshirley01 if you are confident enough to spend the money, get it! It's the best lens I've ever owned! I just Sold it because it re-financed the S5
@@markshirley01 i will see... It should arrive next week but with mft i just miss the background Blur and low light quality that full frame offers. I'm an automotive photographer and want to do more cinematic stuff. You should have a look at hartnett Media or "the lowdown" here in UA-cam. I don't think this is something i could produce with mft gear 🙆
You could have bought the Voigtlander 25mm f0.95 instead. It gives you (almost) exactly the same low light performance and out of focus blur as a 50mm f1.8 on Full Frame. With the GH6 low light performance might even beat full frame, since your ISO will only be a quarter of what you have on FF with that f1.8.
Hi Jordan, I'd like to see an explanation of how the high dynamic range captured by a camera is squished down to show to best advantage on a display like a tablet, a tv or even a projection unit. I know it involves gamma curves but I have trouble getting my head around it - what is really going on?
Hey guys, it would be great if you compare gh5,gh5s, gh5ii and gh6 altogether although it would be quiet a lot of work. Especially i am wondering how gh5s compares gh6 for video purposes. Thanks for review btw.
Great content! BTW. Don't you think that GH6's open gate 5.8K 10-bit video with C-AF could easily be a replacement for 6K photo mode form G9? I genuinely think that these were the same thing only with different interfaces and that such functionality could be added to GH6 with a firmware update. Seriously, it only differs in playback mode where you would have to be able to scroll through a footage, pick one frame and pin it to write as a separate photo. I also cannot comprehend how can GH6 not provide us higher than 7fps framerates in photo busrt modes with electronic shutter if they are able to provide 5.8K 4:3 30p and 5.7K 16:9 60p in 16:9 crop with C-AF. If the AF sucked in that mode, let it suck but give it to us. If that wouldn't be possible in RAWs, just give us 10-bit HVECs. Many of theese modes seems to be essentially the same things but packed differently. I don't get why is Panasonic using a Criple Hammer. Unless they are preparing some cind of successor to G9. But I am not sure if they are in position to make that differentiation. They really have to boost specs to the maximum to better compete with Olympus OM-1 and not end up with a niche product for video nerds.
I'm just thrilled about the OM-1 having good video specs and that gorgeous viewfinder with phase-detect autofocus. No, the video specs aren't as amazing as the GH6, but they are good enough for 95% of people if not more. If the Sony a7S III can get by with "just" 10-bit 4K up to 120 fps with external ProRes RAW, I think 4K 60p with no crop is fine for OM. The extra two stops of low-light performance and the extra stop of dynamic range over the E-M1 III make Micro Four Thirds more viable. Either the OM-1 or the GH6 can be a fantastic choice, depending on your needs. I'd love to see an XLR adapter from OM System similar to the XLR-1 from Panasonic. I think that would be a really smart play.
I think what OM offers in terms of video is the bare minimum for a new camera at this pricepoint in 2022. I would not throw numbers around like 95%. Because in reality you have no idea, neither do I.
The problem I foresee is the low bitrate codecs. Sure it may be 10 bit, but 10 bit 4k30p is only 77Mbps. The Sony A7iii was shooting 8 bit at 100Mbps and even that wasn't flexible enough. Now with more than 10x the data from 8~10 bit, I'm not sure where the data is going to make 100 down to 77. The Fuji XT4 for example shoots anywhere between 100 to 400Mbps in LongGop 10 bit 420, which sounds far more robust. It would be interesting if Jordan could do some tests, and see which factor is more important. Would a ultra compressed 10 bit video still outperform a slightly less compressed 8 bit? Or how would an ultra high bitrate 800Mbps 10 bit from the GH6 compare to the 77Mbps of the OM1?
@@lalilland You forgot to say the GH6 is a gigantic camera, with a vent and horrible autofocus. I believe G6 is a great camera, to a professional video guy, who mostly shoots manual. If you, like me, need a camera to do photo e video, travel, little bit of action, hiking... I do think the om-1 is a far better choice. Even if you are a professional, but outdoors. etchd has a nice video with the "behind the scenes" of a photoshoot with the om-1. I do believe the video quality is enough for most people. The autofocus limits the G6 so much. I am not an engineer, so i don't know how a phase detect system would impact down the specs of the camera. But if this camera had a reliable autofocus, it would appeal for a lot more people than only videographers.
@@danilo2567 So? I was talking about the video features, because that was the topic. The GH6 is tiny tiny tiny camera in the video world. But if we want to bash the OM we can do that as well. Lower MP, no 6k, no 120fps, no 4.2.2, laughable micro-hdmi, worse screen. I'm also 100% sure Pana's new ibis is better than the OM's.
@@professionalpotato4764 I appreciate that observation. Obviously, I do wish the OM-1 came with higher data rates and even better video specs. But, the OM-1 has the trump card of phase-detect autofocus, and I'm guessing the video specs are "good enough." Like you, I want to see more testing. I got a comment on another video from Etchd Photography, and he said he was having great success with grading OM-1 footage. I still don't really have many complaints about the video from my E-M1 II, and this is a big step up from that. If you really want the best possible output from the OM-1, you can hook up a Ninja V and get 12-bit 4:4:4 RAW (via the cursed micro-HDMI port, unfortunately). It feels like OM System benchmarked the GH5 when they should have been benchmarking the next camera. But, at least we're basically getting a lot of GH5-level video specs plus a few things the GH5 can't do, like RAW video. That's exactly what I've been asking for, and I think a lot of Olympus shooters have been too. We don't need more megapixels; we need better low-light performance and dynamic range, and they delivered. (Ideally, we would get both though.) They're listening to their customers.
In the Wooden Nichols shoot (a reference to Chris' acting abilities, right?), please throw in the GH5S. I know it doesn't have stabilization (something I don't think that y'all use shooting Wooden Nichols), but it does, at least IMO, have the best video quality of past M43 cameras. Just a thought...
What application are you using to import your 100MP High Res photos into your Computer? I've tried every Adobe CC app and had Adobe screenshare to try to figure it out to no avail. I've tried Luminar Neo and all that does is create a very blurry image then goes to static. I've tried Silkypix Pro 11 and nothing. DNG converters do NOT work. Preview as well as Photos do NOT work. I spent all of yesterday shooting High Res photos with my new GH6 and now I can't access any of them unless I look at them in camera. I've seen a bunch of you guys uploading high res images. What the hell program are you using to get these damn things out of the camera???? This is driving me nuts! Note* I have the latest firmware for all applications as well as updated Mac M1.
what would you choose between gh6 vs fx3? can't tell if im moving backwards by getting a MFT sensor, also how much would a speedbooster increase performance on the gh6?
Can the GH6 use drag shutter? I rented the S1 a while back and it was able to operate at 1/2 sec shutter speed in manual mode with manual focus. This is a feature I like to use sometimes.
For this sort of begs the question: if the gh6 can do all this great stuff that’s mostly about great new software/menus and fast processing won’t there likely be a full frame/S1 camera with feature equivalent sometime in the near future? I shot with gh2,3, and 4s for all my event and fast stuff and loved it but used canon for music video and “film” stuff until the s1’s (actually S5 now feels like perfect middle ground for what I do). I just don’t feel like the small frame is a small trade off to make, much as I loved gh’s. It can’t really be compared apples to apples to me they’re such different looks. If/when I’m more flush might just get a gh6 because It’s the pinnacle of my former favorite cam; but for work? People are as shallow as the ‘bokeh’ they gush about so I give ‘em what they want.
Well yeah, technology will keep on trucking along and all the advancements made in the GH6 will make their way to larger sensor cameras eventually. This review/comparison however, is for cameras you can buy now, not the theoretical future.
I have two G9 cameras. I love em, obviously, but I thought my upgrade path was going to be a lumix S series camera. Now with the GH6, I don't think so. I think I will stick with MFT and get those f/1.7 twins instead!
I own the Olympus OM-D 1 Mark ii and Ive been doing great with photography, now I am including videography in my bag by starting a UA-cam channel. I want to be able to create short stories and have a dedicated video camera and I am debating with going for the GH6 or going full frame. I was partly thinking of staying M4/3 do to my glass but I don't know if much of my glass would be good for video (I heat the 12-40 f2.8 PRO is actually great for video) So what would you advise someone just getting into video but looking to make money doing events, interviews, documentaries and short stories?
Hi, what about slowmo in 120fps in both, but indoors when you must go with iso to about 5000-6000 and shutter speed to 240. Of course in S1H FullHD HFR 10bit, and GH6 4k 120 fps 10 bit.. S1H or GH6 will win?
Perhaps the S!H is better in low light, but how often would the GH6 actually be inadequate for what you do? The GH6 is pretty much the same weight as my S1R. I was surprised it's heavier than my 5Ds.
You will have the ideal setup in using and owning both, each one can be your A or B cam plus you have backup either way! I will have the GH6 to go with my GH5 plus my Z9 for extreme shooting scenarios!😎🙏🏾
This again is what I expect from you guys. Well informed and useful guidance. I'd like to also see GH6 vs. S5 and also let's just put it out there...the A7S3.
And the upcoming X-H2, which is a quantum leap in dynamic range for APS-C and the first 8K-capable APS-C camera
With the exception of IBIS, the A7S3 would crush the GH6 in every way.
@@JKastle007
No C4k, barely native Sony lenses with no breathing, no waveform, no shutter angle, high detail loss at high iso, poor skin tones, more inflexible screen, slog is much worse to grade than vlog, poor menu navigation etc. A7SIII is twice as expensive.
I would always choose the GH6 over the overpriced A7SIII.
@@db6572 Semantics and purely subjective. Speaking from experience Vlog is not better to grade than Slog. ISO performance on the A7S3 is great. Simply cranking up the iso on any camera will affect image quality. At the end of the day a full frame sensor will always best a M4/3 sensor. Agreed of the price point but in that case go with a S5 or A74.
@@db6572 interesting. I was going to also toss in photo capabilities and ergonomics, as well.
thank you for this unbiased review. and to me the auto focus looks real good i didn't see any pulsing and i was watching on a 75 inch TV... i have 3 GH5's this is a HUGE improvement on something that wasn't as bad as many claim...(i learned how to get the best out of the older DFD) those that are haters go ahead get a different camera but for those of us that will use the gh6 daily better for us! this camera is more of a game changer than many are giving credit.....
Can we do an OM-1 vs GH6? Not necessarily for video - rather for next m4/3 champ.
Yes please, I am interested in both. In reality I am interested in G9 mk ii/vs OM-1 but the GH6 gives us an insight of what my G9 successor could be. I like what I see in the GH6. I can imagine what a GH6 stripped down of video features could be. Oh Panasonic please, just do it.
And DPReview please make that comparision.
I'd be also happy to see the video comparison as the OM1 also supposed to be somewhat video centric, just this H.265 worries me a bit 🤔
@1:34 you got the weight of the camera mixed around
You do pay attention lol
@@povguy6226 It's GLARING, lol.
You guys have become the very very best at this kind of review. Really clear, well organised and useful info. Keep at it! You are THE best source of help for vloggers and you tubers.
Was personally waiting for this. Glad it occurred to you guys to make it.
I'd love to see gh6 + vazen 28 handeld only videos. Shooting anamorphic with no gimbal in a relatively small handheld package is wild. No one could do this type of setup years ago. It's game changing.
see bernard bertrand channel, he got an anamorphic video and its quite spectacular :)
absolutely incredible opening shot
Quick note, there’s a typo at 2:38, title reads “Handling” from the last category, when I think you intended for it to read “Displays”
Noticed that. And pretty sure the on screen weights are back to front.
Thanks for the review. Exactly what i was looking for.. I love how you always let us know what camera you are using to shoot your footage. It speaks a lot on itself.. Please compare the GH6 and OM1, next!!
They aren’t very comparable IMO.
Video shooting will go to GH6 is almost all settings (except perhaps where AF is very necessary)
Photography, most will go to OM-1 (except maybe where resolution is most important. GH6 has higher native sensor resolution but also the 100MP works handheld - and seems to work very well)
One is photo focused, one is video focused. Simple.
One other question: colorwise how well do the cameras match in grading?
My guess would be very well when both in V-Log. Our EVA / GH5 combo always matches up great so I’d guess the same here.
Excellent comparison Jordan, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for m4/3 ever since the GH2.
As usual a fantastic video review. You guys are amazing and I never buy gear before you guys review it first. Thank you so much!
I have both the GH6 and the S1, the GH6 is fantastic in daylight ! But also surprisingly clean in low light till ISO 3200, but in order to get this performance, it uses a lot of noise reduction (like Sony) and detail filtering. The result is a not very detailed picture in 4K in low light even at ISO 200, some area are ok, but some don't, it is weird, a bit like Samsung did with the NX1 (For connoisseurs).
A few people talk about this but it is obvious when comparing with the GH5 or the S1. It is very good for people who like soft and clean footage straight out of camera but it could be nice to get a firmware update to have the possibility to reduce even more the noise reduction and the details filtering.
Great comparison! I was watching and overall really enjoyed it. Client work will be fine even with Autofocus and GH6 as many dont notice the issues. There was one spot I personally noticed at 10:18 with autofocus getting soft but I am a pro and doubt that any customer would notice or care. UA-camrs blow the autofocus issues way out of proportion.
If you are talking the top pros for major commercial clients then yes, they need something better like Sony A7S iii but at that level you should be (and most I work with do) use a Sony FS7, FX6 or similar, a Sony FX3 is passable at that level and Sony A7S iii is barely an option but still a contender before we talk about RED cameras at the top pro level.
For most average client work, we are talking local commercials, budgets of less than $10K, the GH6 will be more than adequate for that. Dont hassle yourself on specs. I purchased the Sony A7IV only to return it because I do think that camera is overpriced for what it is. They really call it a "beginner" and even "student" camera when I was in the photo store which is crazy to me with the price it is but when using it I see why they say that. So I do think that is priced how it should be but is overpriced if that makes sense.
The GH6 will nail it for years to come with all the photo modes and the worst news is that it works the same autofocus-wise as the GH5 which every single GH5 owner does not care about. Sure, they are losing some Canon and Sony crossover who want to switch over but at this point Panasonic seems more inclined to take care of their existing user base which is fine by me. If they happen to figure out the autofocus issue in the future then that is just gravy for us fanboys.
I agree with you.
I also think that slight focus softness at that time isn’t any worse than what we would see anyway if the camera was just set to AF anyway and Jordan made natural small moves back and forth.
While they are better, even the best Sony and Canon systems still have their issues here and there. They also seem to have a more obvious snap into position (that I haven’t yet seen in GH6 footage)
As a GH5 owner, I absolutely care about AF. I’m not sure which clients you’ve working with but “Soft Autofocus” is an absolute deal breaker. What’s the point of dynamic range boost (which is a gimmick btw) when your image is out of focus? As a sports producer/documentary filmmaker, I will not be picking up the GH6 specifically for the terrible AF. It boggles my mind how Panasonic fanboys justify Panasonic refusal to update to a phase detect system. I’m a A7S3 user and will not switch back to Panasonic until they address their AF.
@@JKastle007 have you used other systems too for comparison? None are perfect. I agree GH and DFD are behind and less reliable, but none are anywhere near 100% for client work (without coverage of multicam)
@@walrusgumboot I’ve shot extensively with Canon’s cinema line and Blackmagic as well. Sony offers the best bang for buck of ANY camera brand today. Unless you’re shooting content exclusively for social media or youtube, I would not recommend a M4/3 system let alone the GH6. This could very well be Panasonic’s last M4/3 release. If you’re set on M4/3 then the OM-1 is the future of that system. Otherwise, make the switch and go full frame with the S5. The A74 is also in the same price range and would be a better option.
@@JKastle007 I own m43 and FF systems. Both have their place IMO
Thanks Jordan and Chris for another great review! If Panasonic would add these features -- especially the four channel audio and internal ProRes -- to the S1H Mark ii, they'd have an absolutely killer camera for doc work. Are there any indications when an S1H Mark ii might be coming? Later in 2022?
I mean the gh6 is already a killer camera for documentary work haha, but any new panasonic makes me happy.
@@Whatsup_Abroad True. It does seem like a very capable doc camera. What the S1H mark II would add is better dynamic range and better low light capabilities (and hopefully internal ND!), which in doc settings would be very handy.
Internal pro res is very unlike because of SD card speed. The GH6 can’t record ProRes to its SD card, only the CFe.
Not sure about 4ch audio. Maybe possible? They are different engines though and the GH6 now supports 24 bit 96khz so likely have a hardware change
All the S-Series cameras would work great for doc work, especially with that audio interface mentioned. 24p and some 60p are really all you need. Super high frame rates are nice to haves. And the timelapse feature is amazing on them too. It's already available.
You guys make great reviews. I hope they pay you a lot of money.
You got the weight swapped around 1:37 in. The GH6 is 823g, not the S1H
Great review! I wasn't that impressed at first, but after watching more and more of these reviews, I am.
YAY!! Upcoming Wooden Niccolls! Can't wait to see which movie you do
Thanks Jordan for your video-user bias. It is so refreshing to hear actual usability reviews rather than spec sniffing like a truffle hunting pig on some other channels.
Did not see a single instance of focus hunting. I do not need to upgrade from my G9 but do I have a choice?
Hopefully this means a G9ii is coming soon :)
The details on the head shots are crazy!
Guys, great comparison but you got the weights swapped at 1:35.
I'm an S1 shooter by why oh why can't Panasonic get auto-focusing right?! The world would be their oyster if they could nail focusing. But yes I am still hearing the siren song of the GH6, when I really should change systems for better auto-focusing. Ha. Keep up the awesome and entertaining work!.
micro four-thirds came a long way. amazing.
This is a great comparison. If I were starting video from scratch and had to choose between the GH6 and the S1H, I would probably lean toward the GH6.
Great review Jordan on the GH6. Could you recommend some of the best wide lenses for the S1H?
Excellent video by pro real user, not in-room reviewer.
Perhaps there will be a G9 update using the new sensor. That would be nice.
Great Video. Thank you.
Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
Great post, I see exactly like that and also the much higher body price of the S1H do not forget ...
Is the body weight graphic mixed up? Commentary says GH6 is lighter but that doesn’t match what’s on screen
Punching-in while recording finally comes with GH6! A bit disappointed by still sticking to the contrast based system, but being able to punch in while recording will make MF shooting more exciting.
A good idea for an episode. Thanks.
For my work (filming narratives), autofocus is a no-no. I do LOVE the IBIS because I'm in love with tracking shots and a steadicam might not be necessary. Super high frame rates are not important to me, but maybe 60 fps would be.
Did you notice a magenta tint problem?
Hey Jordan, can you please share Final cut Color grading tips?! ❤️🙌🏼
Lots of Love from 🇮🇳 🌹
What resonates with me is 'what am I gonna grab to run out the door' and I totally agree that if I'm running outside to shoot a friend talking or something I'm taking the smaller, lighter camera. I love my s1h but sometimes the weight a bulk really get me down. HOWEVER, if I'm putting something on sticks and want a "cinematic" look, I'm absolutely taking the s1h. TLDR; gh6 handle run and gun champ, s1h is for set work
Another advantage of the GH6 is the vast range of quality M43 glass available. Eventually, I will probably sell my OM-1 MKIII and buy this puppy
My buddy has an S1H, I remember it being way lighter than my Z6 even with the fins on the side(fan inside?). Pretty cool.
"It's also cold....we could die and I don't wanna'"! A man after my own heart here (staying) inside; in Wisconsin (since November). :)
A really solid and fair-handed review.
Great video! The stabilization alone is worth it for me. See ya later G9! 😄
It will be really interesting for me to test GH6 vs. OM-1 for video quality - sharpness, DR, low light noise etc. I know that as video formats, profiles and tools GH6 is clear winner, as for AF and stabilisation is the OM, but how the actual picture is looking is very interesting.
At 7:11 you have reproduced a problem pointed out by Gerald Undone. Colour streaks of noise propagating from focus gear edges. And these are vertical, so it is not banding. Did you report it to Panasonic?
Here's hoping that the image processor in the S1, S1H and S5 has the headroom for another AF firmware update. Perhaps Panasonic will bring the AF improvements to these cameras, similar to when they'd brought the G9 and GH5 MKII improvements in firmware 2.0 for the S1 series.
The GH6 and the 10-25mm f1.7 is such a good pair for me.
On my full frame camera I mainly use 20mm and 50mm at f3.5.
I very rarely use continuous AF in video because Im using a Nikon D750 - so the GH6 focus tools and continuous AF in video would work fine for me.
Would a 24-70 2.8 lens be enough to cover weddings? This lens only is what I am trying to get to.
@@royaltykidstv youll struggle at a dark reception with 2.8. Ive only done 3 weddings for friends. I used F1.4 primes for the reception.
@@markshirley01 what about with an LED attached to the camera?
@@royaltykidstv yes you could do that, but youd end up with very flat looking images.
@@markshirley01 sorry I never specified, I only need it for video. Will the LED do the trick.
Just a happy pocket 4k user coming through:-).
Fascinating thanks for sharing! The real battle would be against the BGH1 that also has 13 stops of DR. I would love to see that comparison in 4k. 10MP big pixel pitch vs 24MP 5.7k downscaled.
The BGH1 is just a rehoused GH5S.
Yes but enhanced, there's 1 extra stop or DR in the BGH1 compared to gh5s
I can only dream of and imagine if Panasonic joined Sony and it would have Sony's stellar auto-focus.
YES, this might come in handy even for pro-filmmakers, BUT especially for "one man crew" like myself,
where I have to watch out what I am filming, hold maybe a light in one hand and stuff like that... and a gimbal.
Yeah...
Almost made me jump ship, but... maybe later, when I am better at making videos.
P.S. My first "video" camera was the T3i, where I had to MANUALLY focus all the time, with primes or the kit lens,
so I know what manual focus is (used it for years), but, one only has to experience the auto-focus joy from Sony,
to really understand what that means and why one would not go back to manual focus, if possible, like ever again...
Can't wait for the gh6s next year.
I'd kinda lean towards GH6, just for the sake of keeping things compact. Yeah dynamic range is better in the big bro S1H but isn't a deal breaker for me. Also now that it has the tilt/flip out screen is perfect for what I do.
Get the S5. It's smaller than the GH6 and full frame.
@@jonniecandito181 I don't like the full frame Panasonic lens mount, with the GH series I throw all kinds of glass to it.
EXCELLENT review! Clear, concise, brief, great examples and editing. It's time to TRADE in my GH5 for the GH6! BTW, I bought my GH5 after I saw your recreation of the "funny how?" scene from Goodfellas! After this review and a few others, I'm realizing the GH6 provides the proverbial "most bang for the buck". I REALLY like the 4chan audio capabilities (you forget to mention the higher 96khz audio quality too) and the incredible IBIS! I might be able to sell my Ronin S gimble too! Question: The S1H is "Netflix approved", will the GH6 also be?
To me personally, I'm glad the GH6 exists. But I feel like the video camera that has pretty much stolen my heart is the BS1H from Panasonic.
They should have made the gh6 with a super35 sensor and interchangable mounts imo
Superb information sir
Ergonomics and UI play more of a factor than people give credit! Yes its not full frame but that doesnt mean its bad at all and if you can get a good image out of it easier than it will always win to me
The review I’ve been waiting for and the result I’ve been telling everyone about
spotted the Dji Mic RX/TX on the video :D when is that comming out ? the hissing noise is fixed ? I'm holding on buying the Rode before I get to test the offering from dji..
Nice review. I noticed no mention of BRAW recording externally (or internally). Curious about that.
The AF is interesting. In this, I can't say I noticed enough focus hunting for it to be distracting. Whereas in other people's reviews, it's just been hunting all the time.
1:31 is the GH6 lighter or not? The text on screen shows the S1H being lighter.
What if I don't care much about the rolling shutter and low light performance? Then GH6 would be amazing. I'm a proud owner of X-T4, but I won't mind adding GH6 to my arsenal. By the way, your videos are amazing. Signing off from a hot and humid India. You guys rock!
Thank you for the perfect expert comparison. Make another comparison: GH6 vs X-H2S and S1H vs GFX 50IIs
Another great video, thanks guys
I’m sold time to order the GH6 😁
just sold my 10-25mm leica mft and bought an S5 with the 50mm f1.8. As you said, when it comes to low light and dynamic range, its david vs goliath . Autofocus looks really good here btw, didnt see any pulsing
Funny enough it is the panasonic 10 25 1.7 that interested me if I bought a GH6.
The two lenses I use the most on my full frame DSLR are the 20mm and 50mm usually at f3.5. The 10-25 would have been ideal.
@@markshirley01 if you are confident enough to spend the money, get it! It's the best lens I've ever owned! I just Sold it because it re-financed the S5
@@Kickboxritter do you think the S5 was a good move now that we have the GH6.
@@markshirley01 i will see... It should arrive next week but with mft i just miss the background Blur and low light quality that full frame offers. I'm an automotive photographer and want to do more cinematic stuff. You should have a look at hartnett Media or "the lowdown" here in UA-cam. I don't think this is something i could produce with mft gear 🙆
You could have bought the Voigtlander 25mm f0.95 instead. It gives you (almost) exactly the same low light performance and out of focus blur as a 50mm f1.8 on Full Frame.
With the GH6 low light performance might even beat full frame, since your ISO will only be a quarter of what you have on FF with that f1.8.
Thank you for another great review! It sounds like S1H is showing its age, which is totally understandable
Hi Jordan, I'd like to see an explanation of how the high dynamic range captured by a camera is squished down to show to best advantage on a display like a tablet, a tv or even a projection unit. I know it involves gamma curves but I have trouble getting my head around it - what is really going on?
Thank you for your awesome review.
Hey guys, it would be great if you compare gh5,gh5s, gh5ii and gh6 altogether although it would be quiet a lot of work. Especially i am wondering how gh5s compares gh6 for video purposes.
Thanks for review btw.
Thanks for the presentation
Great content! BTW. Don't you think that GH6's open gate 5.8K 10-bit video with C-AF could easily be a replacement for 6K photo mode form G9? I genuinely think that these were the same thing only with different interfaces and that such functionality could be added to GH6 with a firmware update. Seriously, it only differs in playback mode where you would have to be able to scroll through a footage, pick one frame and pin it to write as a separate photo. I also cannot comprehend how can GH6 not provide us higher than 7fps framerates in photo busrt modes with electronic shutter if they are able to provide 5.8K 4:3 30p and 5.7K 16:9 60p in 16:9 crop with C-AF. If the AF sucked in that mode, let it suck but give it to us. If that wouldn't be possible in RAWs, just give us 10-bit HVECs. Many of theese modes seems to be essentially the same things but packed differently. I don't get why is Panasonic using a Criple Hammer. Unless they are preparing some cind of successor to G9. But I am not sure if they are in position to make that differentiation. They really have to boost specs to the maximum to better compete with Olympus OM-1 and not end up with a niche product for video nerds.
You have the weights reversed at 1:33. The GH6 is LIGHTER at 823g NOT 1052g
I'm just thrilled about the OM-1 having good video specs and that gorgeous viewfinder with phase-detect autofocus. No, the video specs aren't as amazing as the GH6, but they are good enough for 95% of people if not more. If the Sony a7S III can get by with "just" 10-bit 4K up to 120 fps with external ProRes RAW, I think 4K 60p with no crop is fine for OM. The extra two stops of low-light performance and the extra stop of dynamic range over the E-M1 III make Micro Four Thirds more viable. Either the OM-1 or the GH6 can be a fantastic choice, depending on your needs.
I'd love to see an XLR adapter from OM System similar to the XLR-1 from Panasonic. I think that would be a really smart play.
I think what OM offers in terms of video is the bare minimum for a new camera at this pricepoint in 2022. I would not throw numbers around like 95%. Because in reality you have no idea, neither do I.
The problem I foresee is the low bitrate codecs. Sure it may be 10 bit, but 10 bit 4k30p is only 77Mbps. The Sony A7iii was shooting 8 bit at 100Mbps and even that wasn't flexible enough. Now with more than 10x the data from 8~10 bit, I'm not sure where the data is going to make 100 down to 77. The Fuji XT4 for example shoots anywhere between 100 to 400Mbps in LongGop 10 bit 420, which sounds far more robust.
It would be interesting if Jordan could do some tests, and see which factor is more important. Would a ultra compressed 10 bit video still outperform a slightly less compressed 8 bit? Or how would an ultra high bitrate 800Mbps 10 bit from the GH6 compare to the 77Mbps of the OM1?
@@lalilland You forgot to say the GH6 is a gigantic camera, with a vent and horrible autofocus. I believe G6 is a great camera, to a professional video guy, who mostly shoots manual.
If you, like me, need a camera to do photo e video, travel, little bit of action, hiking... I do think the om-1 is a far better choice. Even if you are a professional, but outdoors.
etchd has a nice video with the "behind the scenes" of a photoshoot with the om-1. I do believe the video quality is enough for most people.
The autofocus limits the G6 so much. I am not an engineer, so i don't know how a phase detect system would impact down the specs of the camera. But if this camera had a reliable autofocus, it would appeal for a lot more people than only videographers.
@@danilo2567 So? I was talking about the video features, because that was the topic. The GH6 is tiny tiny tiny camera in the video world. But if we want to bash the OM we can do that as well. Lower MP, no 6k, no 120fps, no 4.2.2, laughable micro-hdmi, worse screen. I'm also 100% sure Pana's new ibis is better than the OM's.
@@professionalpotato4764 I appreciate that observation.
Obviously, I do wish the OM-1 came with higher data rates and even better video specs. But, the OM-1 has the trump card of phase-detect autofocus, and I'm guessing the video specs are "good enough." Like you, I want to see more testing. I got a comment on another video from Etchd Photography, and he said he was having great success with grading OM-1 footage. I still don't really have many complaints about the video from my E-M1 II, and this is a big step up from that.
If you really want the best possible output from the OM-1, you can hook up a Ninja V and get 12-bit 4:4:4 RAW (via the cursed micro-HDMI port, unfortunately).
It feels like OM System benchmarked the GH5 when they should have been benchmarking the next camera. But, at least we're basically getting a lot of GH5-level video specs plus a few things the GH5 can't do, like RAW video. That's exactly what I've been asking for, and I think a lot of Olympus shooters have been too. We don't need more megapixels; we need better low-light performance and dynamic range, and they delivered. (Ideally, we would get both though.) They're listening to their customers.
In the Wooden Nichols shoot (a reference to Chris' acting abilities, right?), please throw in the GH5S. I know it doesn't have stabilization (something I don't think that y'all use shooting Wooden Nichols), but it does, at least IMO, have the best video quality of past M43 cameras. Just a thought...
7:11 it's interesting seeing the depth of field difference between the two systems despite being shot at the same f values.
Right, a full frame sensor will have a shallower depth of field because of the physics of having a larger sensor to capture light on.
That 6400ISO test 8:35 looks incredible. Well played to Panasonic, they made a worthy successor to the GH5.
Thanks!! Just wandering… Could you make a review within de Gh5m2 and the Gh6?
1:33. You say the GH6 is lighter but the on screen text shows that the GH6 is heavier. 🤔
the values are switched. GH6 is 823g
Exactly MY THOUGHTS!
What application are you using to import your 100MP High Res photos into your Computer? I've tried every Adobe CC app and had Adobe screenshare to try to figure it out to no avail. I've tried Luminar Neo and all that does is create a very blurry image then goes to static. I've tried Silkypix Pro 11 and nothing. DNG converters do NOT work. Preview as well as Photos do NOT work. I spent all of yesterday shooting High Res photos with my new GH6 and now I can't access any of them unless I look at them in camera. I've seen a bunch of you guys uploading high res images. What the hell program are you using to get these damn things out of the camera???? This is driving me nuts! Note* I have the latest firmware for all applications as well as updated Mac M1.
that GH6 is tempting... I am considering moving up to full frame lumix... but after this review... Im so conflicted lol
I need 5.8k 30p/60p（5760*3240）16：9.Hope panasonic will provide it next firmware.
Looking at this 2 but dunno which one to pick ?? Help me out guys gh6 looks best in my opinion and speacialy for price
Fantastic video.
Thanks.
what would you choose between gh6 vs fx3? can't tell if im moving backwards by getting a MFT sensor, also how much would a speedbooster increase performance on the gh6?
Can the GH6 use drag shutter? I rented the S1 a while back and it was able to operate at 1/2 sec shutter speed in manual mode with manual focus. This is a feature I like to use sometimes.
For this sort of begs the question: if the gh6 can do all this great stuff that’s mostly about great new software/menus and fast processing won’t there likely be a full frame/S1 camera with feature equivalent sometime in the near future? I shot with gh2,3, and 4s for all my event and fast stuff and loved it but used canon for music video and “film” stuff until the s1’s (actually S5 now feels like perfect middle ground for what I do). I just don’t feel like the small frame is a small trade off to make, much as I loved gh’s. It can’t really
be compared apples to apples to me they’re such different looks. If/when I’m more flush might just get a gh6 because It’s the pinnacle of my former favorite cam; but for work? People are as shallow as the ‘bokeh’ they gush about so I give ‘em what they want.
Well yeah, technology will keep on trucking along and all the advancements made in the GH6 will make their way to larger sensor cameras eventually. This review/comparison however, is for cameras you can buy now, not the theoretical future.
Very Good. Looking forward.
The weight of the bodies are switched at 1:37
6k photos have GH5, focus stacking has GH5. It is possible that these modes will come in the update gh6. We'll see.
Did you get the weights mixed up? You have the S1h lighter than the GH6
I have two G9 cameras. I love em, obviously, but I thought my upgrade path was going to be a lumix S series camera. Now with the GH6, I don't think so. I think I will stick with MFT and get those f/1.7 twins instead!
I own the Olympus OM-D 1 Mark ii and Ive been doing great with photography, now I am including videography in my bag by starting a UA-cam channel. I want to be able to create short stories and have a dedicated video camera and I am debating with going for the GH6 or going full frame. I was partly thinking of staying M4/3 do to my glass but I don't know if much of my glass would be good for video (I heat the 12-40 f2.8 PRO is actually great for video) So what would you advise someone just getting into video but looking to make money doing events, interviews, documentaries and short stories?
Hi, what about slowmo in 120fps in both, but indoors when you must go with iso to about 5000-6000 and shutter speed to 240. Of course in S1H FullHD HFR 10bit, and GH6 4k 120 fps 10 bit.. S1H or GH6 will win?
Perhaps the S!H is better in low light, but how often would the GH6 actually be inadequate for what you do?
The GH6 is pretty much the same weight as my S1R. I was surprised it's heavier than my 5Ds.
You will have the ideal setup in using and owning both, each one can be your A or B cam plus you have backup either way! I will have the GH6 to go with my GH5 plus my Z9 for extreme shooting scenarios!😎🙏🏾
Both killer cameras! wub-adubba-wub them both!
Confused! You say the GH6 is lighter but display it's heavier! Which is it?
great video