Man, the new mics are so much worse. It's alright (not good) on my good earphones but listening on mobile or a bluetooth speaker everything is peaking just so bad. It was perfectly fine with the old headsets
Try turning the volume down on the youtube or your system that should improve it on you end, I suspect they just need to turn a down a setting somewhere.
Most of that canned Stormcast range were in the Mortal Realms magazine collection a few years back. Lots of people bought lots of copies of those magazines!
The VanTarrion’s Voidsmen Rogue Trader Combat Patrol thing sucks because even if you go 3rd party for the breachers/other 5 voidsmen, you're still looking at 90 odd quid for everything. I guess there's a reason why it was in a white dwarf huh
Ben, finish the (wrong) book and give us a review! Can even pretend to cast a movie adaptation, describe every character by their worst characteristics, etc
Hey Guys. Love to listen to the podcast like a vodgobo. This time your voices were pretty bad. It was hurting my ears especially Tom's voice. It was sharp and grindi like it was distorted. Pls look in to it next time. Thanks guys. Kremlo came from space, and he's still coming.
Poor Ben, looking to the wrong game system for new cool Genestealer cult models. Now don't get me wrong, I like the upgrade sprue they are getting, not a patch on the Cadian one, were we basically get 2 extra models in it, but for weird , strange and new models, Necromunda might have it. As the "Whispers of the Warp" are saying that the next Necromunda is Hive Secundus , a Hive city over ran by Genestealers and so was RAD bombed, so look out for rumored mutated Stealer Cult stuff and other mutant freaks.
edit cryptic andor possible spoiler ahead. weird thing to write. anyways... in Andor ep 01, whatsits shows up with a hooded cloak and has a retractable walking stick thing... I was so smug when Rich from RLM realised. Benefits of insomnia and low prospects in life on my part, I guess. YAY
To throw in my unwanted opinion on the Custodes issue, I would say most people are more upset with how Games Workshop went about it, rather than the fact that there are female Custodes. Basically, they just did a weird, unnecessary retcon, then told Warhammer fans "you're wrong" and that there have always been female custodes from the start, despite them never showing up or being mentioned and Custodes being referred to as a "Brotherhood". 1. Instead of telling people that it was always this way, they could have made it a recent thing, like Primaris. I'm not a fan of the whole Primaris stuff, but I think people would have been more on board with the retcon if they made some stuff up about how the Custodes were originally all men, but increasingly women have also undergone the enhancement, or whatever it is they go through. At least that way they're not just trying to gaslight an entire fanbase. 2. I feel all the justification needed for the change would just be to say that I want to see some 9 feet tall muscle mommy with six-packs, and I think a lot more dudes would suddenly be completely onboard with the idea. Guys like women; they just don't like artificial diversity/representation shoved down their throat. 3. Representation is a terrible reason for the retcon. There are already 2 groups that are entirely female: Sisters of Silence and Sisters of Battle. The reason Warhammer 40k feels like a sausage fest is because most combatants/soldiers tend to be male and Games Workshop focuses so heavily on Space Marines who are all men. Also, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with representation being completely equal throughout every group. Should we have male Sisters or Battle or Sisters of Silence? Should they be renamed to Siblings of Battle? (I stole that joke from some other comment somewhere). I don't really care about male or female Custodes or Space Marines, I'm mostly annoyed that those factions being all men is considered a problem by some people. 4. I think a much better option would be to give the Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence some love. If they want more females, how about expanding the Sisters of Silence line so a full Sisters of Silence army could have some more variety. When I first saw the Custodes and SoS, my understanding/belief was that the Sisters were essentially the female counterpart to the Custodes, so now saying that Custodes are also female makes me think why do the Sisters of Silence exist. Would those sisters not have tried to become Custodes or attempted to undergo the enhancements? Just feels like the Sisters of Silence got a bit shafted by the retcon. But anyway, I am relatively new to Warhammer. Been following Tom and Ben for a while, but only just recently started collecting. My head canon is to just ignore anything lore-wise that Games Workshop says, since I love the setting, but I feel like they can't stop themselves from shooting their own foot.
The issue with any changes or retcon to Warhammer, is that practically zero paying Warhammer fans are just casuals, they're people bought and sold on the setting, love it, and just want to play the games accurate to that lore or just enjoy the lore, I'd wager more Warhammer fans actually only consume lore rather than regularly buying models, so the lore very much is sacred to this genre, especially when lore being literally sacred is a major theme in the lore, aaahh. I'm not sure on the details of how some Custodes are now not male (wording "not male" for specific later point), I like you have long just never paid attention to the company line and just read about the lore I want to know rather than following the GW marketing department road map. I have nothing against Primaris, mainly because I don't play the table top so the rules don't effect my opinion, but I understand why the lore is a bit dumb too. But to the main simple singular point in lore, that like I said might not strictly apply since I don't know the specifics of this retcon, Astartes aren't simple "all men all the time always just cause", it's not because of the enhancements they go through or any such rationalisms, it's because Astartes are effectively clones of their Primarch, who in turn are essentially clones of the Emperor, and since the Emperor is a guy, his clones are guys, and their clones also are guys, if there was a female Primarch somehow, all her Legion would also be female. In lore it's because of gene-seeds, one of the special genetically modified extra organs the Emperor created. Each a gene-seed is created from the DNA of a Primarch, it's grown and then implanted into a human who's body is capable of accepting it without rejection simply like an organ transplant, because it's a matter of genetic matching, and the gene-seed being male human DNA, only other male humans' bodies are capable of accepting it. Once implanted the struggle for the subjects body begins, as the consequences of acceptance cause all sorts of inhuman genetic changes, until if they survive their DNA is now in a way spliced with the DNA of their Primarch, they are now in real terms his clone/son. If they really wanted to have female Astartes, your justification of "hey guys, hot women?" is often a winning a soft pitch. But in lore it could of been done without retcon, implying the retcon was a conscious act to make waves. In the same way the Primaris Marines were kept secret, they could of just expanded the lore by revealing that the Emperor had strived to make for himself a daughter despite his genetic obstacles. They could write all sorts of themes into this, the theme of the Emperor being a loving god who wanted mankind as it was to prosper not to simply make it in his own image, the theme of the Emperor being a genius scientists driven by challenges and to achieve the impossible through mundane scientific means not just warp magic (or retcon magic as it were). And then they'd have a female Primarch and a small Legion of 'Astartia' that could slowly build up. Wouldn't even have to be so radical, could just have it been an experiment of Cawl, maybe he thought some Sisters of Battle would make brilliant Astartes, and so he found a way to supe them up to Space Marine level without gene-seeds, so now they're like special units who might be seen sprinkled in among all the legions, don't even have to make them stand out, give them the same unusual proportions as typical Astartes with overly broad and wide shoulders and small heads with only slightly smaller waists or height or whatever, and put a fluer de lis on their armour so you know which one it is. I'm totally against purposely upsetting the core fan base, and the whole everything in entertainment following the same, current thing, trend in entertainment, and I really like the epically mythological and allegorical lore of warhammer, I think it does best when the fans create their own head canon personally, but as such I don't have anything against female characters being interwoven with the Astartes somehow or even more powerful (I think it's already lore that most of the super secret assassin administration, who have plenty of women agents, would easily take out Astartes in various ways, just not bare fisty cuffs maybe, and it's personal head canon that Sisters of Battle are essentially just as if not more potent than an Astarte due to their power coming seemingly directly from the Emperor himself, so their faith is their power, whereas Astartes go rogue or chaos all the time, while the Sisters are incorruptible, etc) but only so long as it's done well, done through the lore, god forbid a grand narrative story telling company actually writes some grand narrative story telling. Sorry for all the reading. I really am not invested in the controversy since the lore is there for all to see along with the stark reality of the obvious retcon. I just really like warhammer lore and I think for the most part it exists in the minds of the fans and head canon, it's not really GW's to dictate, and upsetting core fans will only push things further in that direction. They were worried about people making their own models at home, well I'm sure in a year or two Ai can write a new novel with custom prompts in 30 seconds haha.
@@Alfred5555 I didn't notice I had a reply. It's been a week, but I will respond anyway. We are on the same side here. I am against these kinds of retcons that add no value and are done simply for the sake of adding diversity. The main point I was making was simply that there are ways to go about a retcon that could at least make fans slightly more receptive to it, but GW decided to go with the "torch everything" option. My comment was primarily focused on Custodes as opposed to Astartes. There are differing lore reasons for each why they would be male, and Astartes definitely have a stronger lore-based reasoning as to why they are male. I'm not sure I would consider them as clones of the Primarch, but I understand your point. I think the idea of female Astartes could be interesting, but only in the manner of individual exceptions, or perhaps a chapter founded on a unique method of initiation that only works for women or has a chance of success on women. A blanket retcon on Astartes on whole would be stupid and insulting. Going back to Custodes, which was the focus of my comment, my issue with them now being female is less from the lore perspective and more from an aesthetic perspective. Lore-wise, you could argue that with how much genetic manipulation/enhancement they go through, it doesn't really matter their starting gender. Aesthetically though, they have always been overtly masculine. Ben and Tom have even mentioned that the OG Custodes models were bare-chested, shirtless dudes. And for people who like Custodes, that is the aesthetic they want. Additionally, SoS are essentially the female counterparts to the male Custodes, so saying that Custodes are also female feels like it makes the SoS redundant. From the recent news I have heard on friction between Amazon/GW and Henry Cavill on the new Warhammer show, it feels like the Custodes change was due to Amazon wanting a strong, female character and deciding to mess around with the lore to get a female Custodes instead of just having a women from any of the numerous other factions that all have powerful women in them. There really is no good reason for the change, as it doesn't make anyone happy. Most fans are either upset at the change or indifferent to it. And no one is suddenly going to be interested in Warhammer 40k because Custodes are now also women. It's dumb, and clearly done for corporate reasons. Anyway, in summary: retcon bad, the way GW handled it even worse.
The thing is there are other avenues they could have gone down for representation. Instead they retconned lore and gaslit the community when we called them out on it. But then again, GW isn't really a beacon for great community engagement so it's not that suprising.
The only complaint I've seen on the custodes situation is that it feels like a cheap throwaway representation for appearance sake. They chose to do this rather than give the sisters of silence or sisters of battle any love. That's a rough recollection of what I read someone post. Warhammer only seems like a sausage fest because the already established female groups get so little attention, and that's not all that surprising given its a largely male dominated hobby focused largely on war, something that's pretty much always been a man's place. That has been changing lately and more women are getting into it over recent years but that imbalance will always be there because it's natural. To try to make it perfectly equal in terms of representation would be unrealistic at best. Not like most of 40k IS realistic but it's not the same kind of unrealistic.
The requirement for women to be relegated to The Female Factions is part of why things feel like a sausage fest, and why the few female characters in other factions feel stand out and important. Normalising the existence of women as people that are just as much a part of the universe as the men are rather than purely 'special cases' hurts no one except guys with fragile egos. Having a female head on a sprue or a woman in a story doesn't detract from the lore at all because there's no reason a woman couldn't be in that position to begin with. Like the Lads say, if you want your Custodes to be all dudes, go ahead. If someone wants theirs to be all women, or half women, or whatever, that's also fine. It's an option now, like it should be for the majority of races in universe.
@@FinalBossJelly I'm fine with female custodes and even space marines. There's plenty of women in the IG and inquisition as well. I don't think they should be made as common as men, like a 1:1, but I don't see why there shouldn't be any at all. For most of human history men have been combatants while women typically are not, with exception of rare or uncommon circumstances. Even now in these modern times women are still rarely combatants, though more do serve militarily in other aspects like support roles. I don't see much reason why it'd be any different in the 40k setting. Due to the differences between both it only makes sense from a logic standpoint.
@@Sp4rt4nSl4ya Because you have powered armours and genetic modification doing most of the heavy lifting. People that go through these treatments are so far beyond the bounds of normal biology that whatever you use as a starting point shouldn't matter in the slightest.
@@FinalBossJelly absolutely the gene modding and power armor definitely solve the biological difference issue, in theory. However based on what Gdubs wrote about why there aren't female space marines in the retcon was essentially that no female could survive the process. Given the varying degrees of success for men ranges from one in a million for grey knights and 1-30% success for regular marines, depending on the chapter and stage of training/enhancement. Given men are typically more resilient than women this puts their odds much lower if even some of the best male candidates still wash out or succumb to the surgeries. This is probably one reason the sororitas use power armor, but don't get any gene mods. I don't think it makes sense to add them all over the place with what's currently written, but having them be really rare would be fine since it's not a massively blatant contradiction of the retconned lore. Otherwise they'd need to retcon the retcon. Lore aside gdubs only wants to sell models, and if the models don't sell, they won't write it as lore, hence the retcon.
Also, surely if a woman went through the gene modding process she would no longer be a woman right? She would be a steroid filled, testosterone driven, bulk masculine super He-Man demi-god, hence, no longer a woman
You said there needs to be representation, then you say every decision is made strictly for money. If that is the case why does there need to be representation? It doesnt fundamentally change or improve anything and by your own admission you say it is a cheap cash grab. It sounds like you are in favor of something that is inherently racist or sexist and exploitative to the consumer.
11:02 stream starts
Break Ends: 1:50:04
video ends 4:16:08
such a champ
Ben reading a sexy YA romance novel by accident might be the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while
Betwixt two fires.
Man, the new mics are so much worse. It's alright (not good) on my good earphones but listening on mobile or a bluetooth speaker everything is peaking just so bad. It was perfectly fine with the old headsets
seconded. I watch on my tv (fine but with a noticeable difference in quality) or laptop (worse) and agree the old headsets sounded better.
Try turning the volume down on the youtube or your system that should improve it on you end, I suspect they just need to turn a down a setting somewhere.
"How long before I decide this isn't the right book?"
2 hours, apparently... Tom immediately going "No. Just... No." killed me
Finally asking the important Ron Weasley questions
Most of that canned Stormcast range were in the Mortal Realms magazine collection a few years back. Lots of people bought lots of copies of those magazines!
Ben sounds ok, Tom sounds like he's doing his Ben impression
1:50:01 break ends
As a vod goblin
I’m so happy
I have been cursed with the greatest knowledge
The VanTarrion’s Voidsmen Rogue Trader Combat Patrol thing sucks because even if you go 3rd party for the breachers/other 5 voidsmen, you're still looking at 90 odd quid for everything. I guess there's a reason why it was in a white dwarf huh
unexpectedly intense intro, there.
Good to see the boys back at it
I'm finally not just a highlight edits channel gnobler! Actually have enough time to watch the stream in full on the Live channel!
Also, we are up to 7 gallons of beer per kill team and 20 gallons per patrol team.
This was so great!! always love your content
be cool to get ravs and lydia for the multiplayer combat patrol.
Ben, finish the (wrong) book and give us a review! Can even pretend to cast a movie adaptation, describe every character by their worst characteristics, etc
Have they played WH tottal war since this stream?
Hey Guys. Love to listen to the podcast like a vodgobo. This time your voices were pretty bad. It was hurting my ears especially Tom's voice. It was sharp and grindi like it was distorted. Pls look in to it next time. Thanks guys. Kremlo came from space, and he's still coming.
I did not have this issue. Everything sounded like normal to me. On mobile-Android.
Yeah the problem is possibly your side as this sounds completely normal to me
Sounds normal to me I'm afraid.
It wasn't unbearable or anything like that don't get me wrong. But it was very noticeable.
having looked at other comments, I think it only affects certain headphones ?
Poor Ben, looking to the wrong game system for new cool Genestealer cult models.
Now don't get me wrong, I like the upgrade sprue they are getting, not a patch on the Cadian one, were we basically get 2 extra models in it, but for weird , strange and new models, Necromunda might have it.
As the "Whispers of the Warp" are saying that the next Necromunda is Hive Secundus , a Hive city over ran by Genestealers and so was RAD bombed, so look out for rumored mutated Stealer Cult stuff and other mutant freaks.
69kg... ffs
Sorry lads, had to give up at 19 minutes, the mic's really are not good
Damn was hoping they were back to playing TW warhammer
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cryptic andor possible spoiler ahead.
weird thing to write.
anyways...
in Andor ep 01, whatsits shows up with a hooded cloak and has a retractable walking stick thing...
I was so smug when Rich from RLM realised. Benefits of insomnia and low prospects in life on my part, I guess. YAY
To throw in my unwanted opinion on the Custodes issue, I would say most people are more upset with how Games Workshop went about it, rather than the fact that there are female Custodes. Basically, they just did a weird, unnecessary retcon, then told Warhammer fans "you're wrong" and that there have always been female custodes from the start, despite them never showing up or being mentioned and Custodes being referred to as a "Brotherhood".
1. Instead of telling people that it was always this way, they could have made it a recent thing, like Primaris. I'm not a fan of the whole Primaris stuff, but I think people would have been more on board with the retcon if they made some stuff up about how the Custodes were originally all men, but increasingly women have also undergone the enhancement, or whatever it is they go through. At least that way they're not just trying to gaslight an entire fanbase.
2. I feel all the justification needed for the change would just be to say that I want to see some 9 feet tall muscle mommy with six-packs, and I think a lot more dudes would suddenly be completely onboard with the idea. Guys like women; they just don't like artificial diversity/representation shoved down their throat.
3. Representation is a terrible reason for the retcon. There are already 2 groups that are entirely female: Sisters of Silence and Sisters of Battle. The reason Warhammer 40k feels like a sausage fest is because most combatants/soldiers tend to be male and Games Workshop focuses so heavily on Space Marines who are all men. Also, I don't understand why people are so obsessed with representation being completely equal throughout every group. Should we have male Sisters or Battle or Sisters of Silence? Should they be renamed to Siblings of Battle? (I stole that joke from some other comment somewhere). I don't really care about male or female Custodes or Space Marines, I'm mostly annoyed that those factions being all men is considered a problem by some people.
4. I think a much better option would be to give the Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence some love. If they want more females, how about expanding the Sisters of Silence line so a full Sisters of Silence army could have some more variety. When I first saw the Custodes and SoS, my understanding/belief was that the Sisters were essentially the female counterpart to the Custodes, so now saying that Custodes are also female makes me think why do the Sisters of Silence exist. Would those sisters not have tried to become Custodes or attempted to undergo the enhancements? Just feels like the Sisters of Silence got a bit shafted by the retcon.
But anyway, I am relatively new to Warhammer. Been following Tom and Ben for a while, but only just recently started collecting. My head canon is to just ignore anything lore-wise that Games Workshop says, since I love the setting, but I feel like they can't stop themselves from shooting their own foot.
The issue with any changes or retcon to Warhammer, is that practically zero paying Warhammer fans are just casuals, they're people bought and sold on the setting, love it, and just want to play the games accurate to that lore or just enjoy the lore, I'd wager more Warhammer fans actually only consume lore rather than regularly buying models, so the lore very much is sacred to this genre, especially when lore being literally sacred is a major theme in the lore, aaahh.
I'm not sure on the details of how some Custodes are now not male (wording "not male" for specific later point), I like you have long just never paid attention to the company line and just read about the lore I want to know rather than following the GW marketing department road map. I have nothing against Primaris, mainly because I don't play the table top so the rules don't effect my opinion, but I understand why the lore is a bit dumb too.
But to the main simple singular point in lore, that like I said might not strictly apply since I don't know the specifics of this retcon, Astartes aren't simple "all men all the time always just cause", it's not because of the enhancements they go through or any such rationalisms, it's because Astartes are effectively clones of their Primarch, who in turn are essentially clones of the Emperor, and since the Emperor is a guy, his clones are guys, and their clones also are guys, if there was a female Primarch somehow, all her Legion would also be female. In lore it's because of gene-seeds, one of the special genetically modified extra organs the Emperor created. Each a gene-seed is created from the DNA of a Primarch, it's grown and then implanted into a human who's body is capable of accepting it without rejection simply like an organ transplant, because it's a matter of genetic matching, and the gene-seed being male human DNA, only other male humans' bodies are capable of accepting it. Once implanted the struggle for the subjects body begins, as the consequences of acceptance cause all sorts of inhuman genetic changes, until if they survive their DNA is now in a way spliced with the DNA of their Primarch, they are now in real terms his clone/son.
If they really wanted to have female Astartes, your justification of "hey guys, hot women?" is often a winning a soft pitch. But in lore it could of been done without retcon, implying the retcon was a conscious act to make waves. In the same way the Primaris Marines were kept secret, they could of just expanded the lore by revealing that the Emperor had strived to make for himself a daughter despite his genetic obstacles. They could write all sorts of themes into this, the theme of the Emperor being a loving god who wanted mankind as it was to prosper not to simply make it in his own image, the theme of the Emperor being a genius scientists driven by challenges and to achieve the impossible through mundane scientific means not just warp magic (or retcon magic as it were). And then they'd have a female Primarch and a small Legion of 'Astartia' that could slowly build up. Wouldn't even have to be so radical, could just have it been an experiment of Cawl, maybe he thought some Sisters of Battle would make brilliant Astartes, and so he found a way to supe them up to Space Marine level without gene-seeds, so now they're like special units who might be seen sprinkled in among all the legions, don't even have to make them stand out, give them the same unusual proportions as typical Astartes with overly broad and wide shoulders and small heads with only slightly smaller waists or height or whatever, and put a fluer de lis on their armour so you know which one it is.
I'm totally against purposely upsetting the core fan base, and the whole everything in entertainment following the same, current thing, trend in entertainment, and I really like the epically mythological and allegorical lore of warhammer, I think it does best when the fans create their own head canon personally, but as such I don't have anything against female characters being interwoven with the Astartes somehow or even more powerful (I think it's already lore that most of the super secret assassin administration, who have plenty of women agents, would easily take out Astartes in various ways, just not bare fisty cuffs maybe, and it's personal head canon that Sisters of Battle are essentially just as if not more potent than an Astarte due to their power coming seemingly directly from the Emperor himself, so their faith is their power, whereas Astartes go rogue or chaos all the time, while the Sisters are incorruptible, etc) but only so long as it's done well, done through the lore, god forbid a grand narrative story telling company actually writes some grand narrative story telling.
Sorry for all the reading. I really am not invested in the controversy since the lore is there for all to see along with the stark reality of the obvious retcon. I just really like warhammer lore and I think for the most part it exists in the minds of the fans and head canon, it's not really GW's to dictate, and upsetting core fans will only push things further in that direction. They were worried about people making their own models at home, well I'm sure in a year or two Ai can write a new novel with custom prompts in 30 seconds haha.
@@Alfred5555 I didn't notice I had a reply. It's been a week, but I will respond anyway.
We are on the same side here. I am against these kinds of retcons that add no value and are done simply for the sake of adding diversity. The main point I was making was simply that there are ways to go about a retcon that could at least make fans slightly more receptive to it, but GW decided to go with the "torch everything" option.
My comment was primarily focused on Custodes as opposed to Astartes. There are differing lore reasons for each why they would be male, and Astartes definitely have a stronger lore-based reasoning as to why they are male. I'm not sure I would consider them as clones of the Primarch, but I understand your point. I think the idea of female Astartes could be interesting, but only in the manner of individual exceptions, or perhaps a chapter founded on a unique method of initiation that only works for women or has a chance of success on women. A blanket retcon on Astartes on whole would be stupid and insulting.
Going back to Custodes, which was the focus of my comment, my issue with them now being female is less from the lore perspective and more from an aesthetic perspective. Lore-wise, you could argue that with how much genetic manipulation/enhancement they go through, it doesn't really matter their starting gender. Aesthetically though, they have always been overtly masculine. Ben and Tom have even mentioned that the OG Custodes models were bare-chested, shirtless dudes. And for people who like Custodes, that is the aesthetic they want. Additionally, SoS are essentially the female counterparts to the male Custodes, so saying that Custodes are also female feels like it makes the SoS redundant.
From the recent news I have heard on friction between Amazon/GW and Henry Cavill on the new Warhammer show, it feels like the Custodes change was due to Amazon wanting a strong, female character and deciding to mess around with the lore to get a female Custodes instead of just having a women from any of the numerous other factions that all have powerful women in them. There really is no good reason for the change, as it doesn't make anyone happy. Most fans are either upset at the change or indifferent to it. And no one is suddenly going to be interested in Warhammer 40k because Custodes are now also women. It's dumb, and clearly done for corporate reasons.
Anyway, in summary: retcon bad, the way GW handled it even worse.
The thing is there are other avenues they could have gone down for representation. Instead they retconned lore and gaslit the community when we called them out on it. But then again, GW isn't really a beacon for great community engagement so it's not that suprising.
The only complaint I've seen on the custodes situation is that it feels like a cheap throwaway representation for appearance sake. They chose to do this rather than give the sisters of silence or sisters of battle any love. That's a rough recollection of what I read someone post.
Warhammer only seems like a sausage fest because the already established female groups get so little attention, and that's not all that surprising given its a largely male dominated hobby focused largely on war, something that's pretty much always been a man's place. That has been changing lately and more women are getting into it over recent years but that imbalance will always be there because it's natural. To try to make it perfectly equal in terms of representation would be unrealistic at best. Not like most of 40k IS realistic but it's not the same kind of unrealistic.
The requirement for women to be relegated to The Female Factions is part of why things feel like a sausage fest, and why the few female characters in other factions feel stand out and important. Normalising the existence of women as people that are just as much a part of the universe as the men are rather than purely 'special cases' hurts no one except guys with fragile egos. Having a female head on a sprue or a woman in a story doesn't detract from the lore at all because there's no reason a woman couldn't be in that position to begin with. Like the Lads say, if you want your Custodes to be all dudes, go ahead. If someone wants theirs to be all women, or half women, or whatever, that's also fine. It's an option now, like it should be for the majority of races in universe.
@@FinalBossJelly I'm fine with female custodes and even space marines. There's plenty of women in the IG and inquisition as well. I don't think they should be made as common as men, like a 1:1, but I don't see why there shouldn't be any at all. For most of human history men have been combatants while women typically are not, with exception of rare or uncommon circumstances. Even now in these modern times women are still rarely combatants, though more do serve militarily in other aspects like support roles. I don't see much reason why it'd be any different in the 40k setting. Due to the differences between both it only makes sense from a logic standpoint.
@@Sp4rt4nSl4ya Because you have powered armours and genetic modification doing most of the heavy lifting. People that go through these treatments are so far beyond the bounds of normal biology that whatever you use as a starting point shouldn't matter in the slightest.
@@FinalBossJelly absolutely the gene modding and power armor definitely solve the biological difference issue, in theory. However based on what Gdubs wrote about why there aren't female space marines in the retcon was essentially that no female could survive the process. Given the varying degrees of success for men ranges from one in a million for grey knights and 1-30% success for regular marines, depending on the chapter and stage of training/enhancement. Given men are typically more resilient than women this puts their odds much lower if even some of the best male candidates still wash out or succumb to the surgeries. This is probably one reason the sororitas use power armor, but don't get any gene mods. I don't think it makes sense to add them all over the place with what's currently written, but having them be really rare would be fine since it's not a massively blatant contradiction of the retconned lore. Otherwise they'd need to retcon the retcon. Lore aside gdubs only wants to sell models, and if the models don't sell, they won't write it as lore, hence the retcon.
Also, surely if a woman went through the gene modding process she would no longer be a woman right? She would be a steroid filled, testosterone driven, bulk masculine super He-Man demi-god, hence, no longer a woman
Wow bad mic quality
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You said there needs to be representation, then you say every decision is made strictly for money. If that is the case why does there need to be representation? It doesnt fundamentally change or improve anything and by your own admission you say it is a cheap cash grab.
It sounds like you are in favor of something that is inherently racist or sexist and exploitative to the consumer.
4:00:00 being anti fans and saying fuck 40k lore.
Oh hey, Tom and Ben can look here for some of that mega nerd rage they said they've not seen yet! ^^
Goo goo ga ga lol
"LoreHammer or YourHammer"
became "Nobody's Hammer"
@@Coconut-219 And soon be washammer and hadmoney. and then Bon and toon cry is Warhammer is no more.
There is no shooting ork detachment, no ork pirates detachment, and they killed off Badrukk.
F