Great video, it fixed my problem, I misplaced the small spacer washer under the fan blade which caused it not to spin as free as it should. The last motor you pulled apart has the same problem as mine, 1 long brush and 1 short brush and armature blackened. What the problem is, is the short brush has come to the end of its free movement, the copper wire inside the brush spring is preventing the brush making contact with the armature and creating arcing and sparking.
You can put the comutator on your cordless drill other end in vise and use 2500 sand paper and clean it up. Make sure you use a small pick and clean out the in between the commutagor winds to keep it cool.
Fascinating. Back in the day, if a starter motor started throwing sparks like that it was usually because the carbon brush was not in contact. The very tiny air gap was enough to create sparks carried around on the commutator. A new brush usually fixed it.
Thanks so much for this, though as a PSA for others - the thread for the nut holding the turbine to the motor is not always reverse threaded (such was the case with the ydk yv-16k24fa fitted to my DC39). When turned in the right direction is actually gets lose enough to turn with your fingers quite quickly so if this isn't happening, try the other direction. Anyway in my case the vacuum sounded horrible and the motor got very hot in use, I suspected the motor bearings were the issue, and I'd previously taken the vacuum apart and tried to lubricate the bearings without taking motor apart, but getting anything to the one on the turbine side is almost impossible. Thanks to this video I was able to take it apart enough to get to that bearing, and it actually took a single spray of WD40 to free it up massively (though I did keep spraying to clean it out as best I could, then lube it up with silicon lube). My vacuum is going much better now (and doesnt sound like its about to die).
Thank you so much for this video! I'm always a bit too scared to pull things apart if I haven't seen someone else do it first. This really helped me fix my YDK motor. Thank you!
Thank you for this video. I have a faulty YDK YV-16K24F motor in a DC39 which will instantly trip the house power as soon as it is switched on. I just purchased a new replacement motor and fitted it but, annoyingly, it still does the same. I have checked through the cable and all the way through the circuit to the motor but no evidence of any short or damage in the cabling. 240v is present at the motor.I guess its possible that the new replacement is also faulty but you would like to hope not! I was searching for a possible solution for the fault which led me to your video. Just wondering if I am missing something obvious that could be causing the motor to instantly trip the power like this? Seems an unhappy coincidence that bot motors are doing it.
IMPORTANT: The Qualitex MTR299 Motor is sold in The United Kingdom. I believe this means that the MTR299 Motor runs on 220 Volts. Homes in the United States, Canada, Mexico ...ect are powered for 110 Volts.
Nice video, just replaced the motor, HEPA and motorfilter in my DC23 here yesterday, cleaned out about 10 years worth of fine dust from the cyclones while I had it apart.I had a look at the old motor, and based on your video I was certain the thermaloverload fuse had blown, causing the initial faliure. But no, it was fine, checked the carbons they where fine to... even the bearings where very nice, spun easily by hand.Completely at a loss on how it managed to fail in the first place. It was struggling a bit during a cleaning, and suddenly cut out and would not start after it had cooled down. New motor in bucket didn't spin at all initially, had to spin it forcibly by hand, feeling a slow decrease in friction. Ran it for a few seconds this morning and it smelled kinda toasty :-( May have to warranty it.... bad luck I guess... Kept the old one and its loose bits...
Maybe the fancase has been pressed on too tight during manufacturing? Few taps on the back of the lip might solve it, but the rma process would probably be easier!
hoover master Me neither tbh. Head bloke from manchestervacs has seen a few, but they use motors by the pallett so in terms of odds that's probably understandable. My small trickle though, never had one. I had fully expected the mtr240 in this vid to have done it but it hadnt
Yep! It's a gentleman's trade off as I post all my rebuild threads on his forum! Plus he can get any dyson part ever made usually, either new or second hand!
Any idea if you can mod one of these in a Hoover Smartpets 2001 - Hate to loose the 2000watt motor after stupid Eu regs made em obsolete! Like the Rik Mayall impression at 25:10 lol
He said it was a left-hand thread, then he tried to turn the nut clockwise to remove it, but at 5:45 he reversed the socket (without saying anything) and turned the nut counter-clockwise and it came off, so it is a normal right-hand thread.
Thank you very much for the video with the detailed explanations. I wanted to know where to buy the unit with the capacitor and wires assembled on the motor. Is there a site that ships overseas
Quick question: DC33, over 5 yrs old, burning smell w/ a noticeable change (slowing) of the motor. What needs to be replaced? Motor, clutch, or possibly just clutch belts?
I'd replace your motor. But to get to the motor, the clutch has to come out... Belts don't cost alot of money. I'd buy new filters too so the new motor has a good start in life 👍
Just put brushes in my dc 33 and as you say armature must have been to far gone did not look that bad but was no good so have just had to order new motor the motor is cheep but I thought brushes would sort it will not bother with brushes again thanks for your video 📹
My dyson DC08 still works but it makes pop sounds also sparks and sounds like it will go off any time took the motor a part and one of the carbon brush is lower then other
I have a DC05 which I've just replaced the motor on and it's back to normal. I was wondering if worn out carbon filters on the old motor would cause a popping sound, electrical burning smell and a drop in power a few seconds after switch on? Or does this just sound like that motor has died? Thanks
Hello, need to replace DC19T2 burned out motor - it is YV-16K24C. What other genuine motors P/Ns are compatible? Your help will be really appreciated...
Can a bad bearing cause the motor to overheat so the TOC cut off the current?I changed the carbon brushes and one of the bearing wasn't spin freely,but since it wasn't seized either,i decided to leave it as it is.But after i reassembled everything and turn it on,the temperature of the motor area was very hot and after several minutes the motor shut down.So can it be due to the bearing or i may look for something else?Thanks.
The bearings won't be helping, no. The motor will be working harder to compensate for the drag. At some point randomly the bearing will overheat to the point it explodes and then you'll deffo need to fit a new one 😂
You'd be more easily able to put some fresh grease in them for sure. Problem is their built to a price so by the time the bearings are worn out the armature won't be far behind etc 😢
Regards Master! I would like to ask if the Dyson Cinetic Big Ball 1 and 2 Canister CY22 vacuum cleaners have a motor of this size and basic type, or are they different?
@@beko1987 Thank you very much for your quick response master! I watched a few videos of the disassembly of the CY22, a little skeptical as if it were smaller, but I might only see it because of the new bucket engine case. For example, in this video: ua-cam.com/video/21mrCYnfutw/v-deo.html Unfortunately, for the CY22 parts, the engine is only available mounted in a bucket and is visible, so I thought I’d rather ask the master. I hope this machine has the "traditional" engine too, because now I could buy a faulty CY22 bearing or carbon brush cheaply. I myself have already successfully refurbished several types for my family and friends, the detailed videos of Mr. Master have been of great help to me, a thousand thanks for that. I love Dyson vacuum cleaners, but I’m aware that these are machines that require attention and maintenance. The rule is about never sucking in wet, damp dust. Never suck dirt above the mark. The canister can be knocked out and cleaned as much as possible, and once you’ve taken it to smelly ripit and cleaned it nicely, wash filters, or change it ... sometimes you a little adult lego as well. :D Sometimes an engine will obviously need to be either refurbished or completely replaced. But if you stick to all of that, you’ll thank Dyson in the meantime for really sucking with great force and no vacuuming odor. I’m a little sorry that only a few canister models have been built with a motorized head unit, although the upright versions are very good, they have drawbacks when we want to work with them in hard-to-reach places. I disagree even more that Dyson no longer makes a mains-powered model. Although a hand-held vacuum cleaner is a really good solution for certain tasks, there are very few in a carpeted apartment full of dogs and children. On the other hand, let us recognize that any battery-powered machine typically has a much more detrimental effect on the environment in its present state than it is served. Ugly business all over, scam.
Can you actually fix a burned out motor? It shows the same sparks like the ones in your video. The carbons were completely gone at my DC23. Is there any chance to get it fixed without buying a whole new motor? Regards from Germany
Hi Sam. I've been given a DC23 to refurbish. Any advice on the cooling mechanism? Is it easy to move from the old motor to a new one? The machine is full of plaster-dust but the motor still works - for the moment :) was going to put a new one in as a precaution!
I've lifted them carefully with a flatblade screwdriver at the centre underneath, their just press fit. Then gently tap it onto the shaft on the new motor
@@beko1987 Thank you, I just did exactly the same and it needs to be done very carefully indeed. My fan has a little crack (which can either be because of the lifting or it was already there), but is good enough anyway 😃
Kiki perry I think all dc08 motors are the same. As long as it looks physically identical you should be fine, just don't buy a cheap cheap one with no thermal cutout
The YDK is genuine Dyson motor, YDK usually is the style of motor but made by different manafacturers, Mostly the DC07/14 ive seen are Panasonic but there are others out there too as 'genuine' parts, OEM from factory.
Michael Vriens it does, their all the same ydk motor across all of the models. The fancase seal might need a tiny smear of something slippery to help it on, but it'll go!
@@beko1987 unfortunately not. Some dc33s for sure stupid reason use a YDK with a much slimmer fancase on them and use a different base seal too meaning they’re not interchangeable. You just need the fancase seal from say a dc14 to put in and it’ll work. It’s really stupid as some dc33s have that slim depth motor and some done it’s just pot luck with them
Great video, it fixed my problem, I misplaced the small spacer washer under the fan blade which caused it not to spin as free as it should. The last motor you pulled apart has the same problem as mine, 1 long brush and 1 short brush and armature blackened. What the problem is, is the short brush has come to the end of its free movement, the copper wire inside the brush spring is preventing the brush making contact with the armature and creating arcing and sparking.
You can put the comutator on your cordless drill other end in vise and use 2500 sand paper and clean it up. Make sure you use a small pick and clean out the in between the commutagor winds to keep it cool.
Fascinating. Back in the day, if a starter motor started throwing sparks like that it was usually because the carbon brush was not in contact. The very tiny air gap was enough to create sparks carried around on the commutator. A new brush usually fixed it.
I have dyson DC08 with this same ydk motor it’s creating spark and one of the carbon brush is lower then the other
Thanks so much for this, though as a PSA for others - the thread for the nut holding the turbine to the motor is not always reverse threaded (such was the case with the ydk yv-16k24fa fitted to my DC39). When turned in the right direction is actually gets lose enough to turn with your fingers quite quickly so if this isn't happening, try the other direction.
Anyway in my case the vacuum sounded horrible and the motor got very hot in use, I suspected the motor bearings were the issue, and I'd previously taken the vacuum apart and tried to lubricate the bearings without taking motor apart, but getting anything to the one on the turbine side is almost impossible. Thanks to this video I was able to take it apart enough to get to that bearing, and it actually took a single spray of WD40 to free it up massively (though I did keep spraying to clean it out as best I could, then lube it up with silicon lube). My vacuum is going much better now (and doesnt sound like its about to die).
Thank you so much for this video! I'm always a bit too scared to pull things apart if I haven't seen someone else do it first. This really helped me fix my YDK motor. Thank you!
av watch loads of your vid's like the way you explain every bit of the job bit by bit nice one 10/10
Awesome, thanks!
Thank you for this video. I have a faulty YDK YV-16K24F motor in a DC39 which will instantly trip the house power as soon as it is switched on. I just purchased a new replacement motor and fitted it but, annoyingly, it still does the same. I have checked through the cable and all the way through the circuit to the motor but no evidence of any short or damage in the cabling. 240v is present at the motor.I guess its possible that the new replacement is also faulty but you would like to hope not!
I was searching for a possible solution for the fault which led me to your video. Just wondering if I am missing something obvious that could be causing the motor to instantly trip the power like this? Seems an unhappy coincidence that bot motors are doing it.
IMPORTANT: The Qualitex MTR299 Motor is sold in The United Kingdom. I believe this means that the MTR299 Motor runs on 220 Volts. Homes in the United States, Canada, Mexico ...ect are powered for 110 Volts.
Yes that's correct, I'm a UK channel. Different voltages require the correct motor.
Nice video, just replaced the motor, HEPA and motorfilter in my DC23 here yesterday, cleaned out about 10 years worth of fine dust from the cyclones while I had it apart.I had a look at the old motor, and based on your video I was certain the thermaloverload fuse had blown, causing the initial faliure. But no, it was fine, checked the carbons they where fine to... even the bearings where very nice, spun easily by hand.Completely at a loss on how it managed to fail in the first place. It was struggling a bit during a cleaning, and suddenly cut out and would not start after it had cooled down. New motor in bucket didn't spin at all initially, had to spin it forcibly by hand, feeling a slow decrease in friction. Ran it for a few seconds this morning and it smelled kinda toasty :-( May have to warranty it.... bad luck I guess... Kept the old one and its loose bits...
Maybe the fancase has been pressed on too tight during manufacturing? Few taps on the back of the lip might solve it, but the rma process would probably be easier!
Does the digital motor is only on cordless dysons
For line caps X means across and Y go from the line to chassis.
Modern caps are designed to fail open rather than fail shorted and blow their guts.
Never had pattern motors blow on me! My DC19 has had one in for a few months and it does smell a bit. I love the turquoise DC07!
hoover master Me neither tbh. Head bloke from manchestervacs has seen a few, but they use motors by the pallett so in terms of odds that's probably understandable. My small trickle though, never had one. I had fully expected the mtr240 in this vid to have done it but it hadnt
Beko1987 Is Stuart the head guy?
hoover master yea
Beko1987 Ah so he is the one who gets you dyson parts lol
Yep! It's a gentleman's trade off as I post all my rebuild threads on his forum! Plus he can get any dyson part ever made usually, either new or second hand!
Any idea if you can mod one of these in a Hoover Smartpets 2001 - Hate to loose the 2000watt motor after stupid Eu regs made em obsolete!
Like the Rik Mayall impression at 25:10 lol
Oh and I really enjoy the newer video style with he texts!
hoover master Thanks! It's how you can tell what I upload straight from my phone and what I don't...
Thank you , particularly the replacement type was really helpful.
i didn't quite get what you said about removing the fan nut, did you mean you turn the nut clock wise to remove the nut?
He said it was a left-hand thread, then he tried to turn the nut clockwise to remove it, but at 5:45 he reversed the socket (without saying anything) and turned the nut counter-clockwise and it came off, so it is a normal right-hand thread.
Thank you very much for the video with the detailed explanations. I wanted to know where to buy the unit with the capacitor and wires assembled on the motor. Is there a site that ships overseas
Last motor looks like the brushes are worn out.
The shorter one would be causing the sparking and that would damage the commutator.
Quick question: DC33, over 5 yrs old, burning smell w/ a noticeable change (slowing) of the motor. What needs to be replaced? Motor, clutch, or possibly just clutch belts?
I'd replace your motor. But to get to the motor, the clutch has to come out... Belts don't cost alot of money. I'd buy new filters too so the new motor has a good start in life 👍
@@beko1987 Does the YDK motor is more common on uprights
Just put brushes in my dc 33 and as you say armature must have been to far gone did not look that bad but was no good so have just had to order new motor the motor is cheep but I thought brushes would sort it will not bother with brushes again thanks for your video 📹
My dyson DC08 still works but it makes pop sounds also sparks and sounds like it will go off any time took the motor a part and one of the carbon brush is lower then other
@@abcars2856 2 years on the cheap motor is still going strong don't waste money on brushes it will need a motor
"don't lick any of those, they wont taste very nice" - Comedy gold
I have old DC26 I want to fix, it shoots sparks and smell. what would you advise?
I have a DC05 which I've just replaced the motor on and it's back to normal. I was wondering if worn out carbon filters on the old motor would cause a popping sound, electrical burning smell and a drop in power a few seconds after switch on? Or does this just sound like that motor has died? Thanks
Hello, need to replace DC19T2 burned out motor - it is YV-16K24C.
What other genuine motors P/Ns are compatible? Your help will be really appreciated...
Are the MTR299 which Mvacs sell same quality as the ones found on LM Electrical?
Hi, would you recommend website where to buy a good motor for Dyson DC08/DC29?
Please :)
Top video m8 were will i get cheap motor for DC33 YDK YV-16K24EE THANKS
Ebay! Dc33 ydk is what you want (same motor as the 04, 07 and 14 too)
Can a bad bearing cause the motor to overheat so the TOC cut off the current?I changed the carbon brushes and one of the bearing wasn't spin freely,but since it wasn't seized either,i decided to leave it as it is.But after i reassembled everything and turn it on,the temperature of the motor area was very hot and after several minutes the motor shut down.So can it be due to the bearing or i may look for something else?Thanks.
The bearings won't be helping, no. The motor will be working harder to compensate for the drag. At some point randomly the bearing will overheat to the point it explodes and then you'll deffo need to fit a new one 😂
@@beko1987 Yes,i assume that i will need to dismantle it all over again and replace the bearing.Thanks again👍
I wonder if -2RS (rubber sealed) type of bearings would be the better choice?
You'd be more easily able to put some fresh grease in them for sure. Problem is their built to a price so by the time the bearings are worn out the armature won't be far behind etc 😢
Regards Master! I would like to ask if the Dyson Cinetic Big Ball 1 and 2 Canister CY22 vacuum cleaners have a motor of this size and basic type, or are they different?
Hi! Ive only had a dc54 apart but the motor was similar to the other cylinder cleaners manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/topic,1904.0.html
@@beko1987 Thank you very much for your quick response master! I watched a few videos of the disassembly of the CY22, a little skeptical as if it were smaller, but I might only see it because of the new bucket engine case. For example, in this video: ua-cam.com/video/21mrCYnfutw/v-deo.html
Unfortunately, for the CY22 parts, the engine is only available mounted in a bucket and is visible, so I thought I’d rather ask the master. I hope this machine has the "traditional" engine too, because now I could buy a faulty CY22 bearing or carbon brush cheaply. I myself have already successfully refurbished several types for my family and friends, the detailed videos of Mr. Master have been of great help to me, a thousand thanks for that.
I love Dyson vacuum cleaners, but I’m aware that these are machines that require attention and maintenance.
The rule is about never sucking in wet, damp dust. Never suck dirt above the mark. The canister can be knocked out and cleaned as much as possible, and once you’ve taken it to smelly ripit and cleaned it nicely, wash filters, or change it ... sometimes you a little adult lego as well. :D
Sometimes an engine will obviously need to be either refurbished or completely replaced. But if you stick to all of that, you’ll thank Dyson in the meantime for really sucking with great force and no vacuuming odor.
I’m a little sorry that only a few canister models have been built with a motorized head unit, although the upright versions are very good, they have drawbacks when we want to work with them in hard-to-reach places.
I disagree even more that Dyson no longer makes a mains-powered model. Although a hand-held vacuum cleaner is a really good solution for certain tasks, there are very few in a carpeted apartment full of dogs and children.
On the other hand, let us recognize that any battery-powered machine typically has a much more detrimental effect on the environment in its present state than it is served.
Ugly business all over, scam.
top vid thanks for youre help
Will 3" length puller be enough to pull out the 2 bearing?Thanks.
It should be. Not got one to measure but I've got a tiny small one that just fits.
@@beko1987 Thanks.very helpful video👍
hey by chance anyone have a used 1600 watt motor for dyson14 for america.
The washer at 13:20 is from the commutator side (9:48)
Also at 24:32, a wave spring washer falls out from between the bearing and the motor housing(?).
Yamoto Motors (No, not cars but the owners of YDK) are Japanise but for some reason are known for poor reliablity which is a bit of a shame.
A black “gasket” fell off when you took out the rotor. Where does this gasket go?
Above the top fancase bearing, it's a little anti vibration shim
Many nuts to watch !
What
Can you actually fix a burned out motor? It shows the same sparks like the ones in your video. The carbons were completely gone at my DC23. Is there any chance to get it fixed without buying a whole new motor?
Regards from Germany
No, sadly not. Once it goes it's gone...
I soldered new carbon brushes onto my dc08 4 years ago. It was working perfectly, until now. The contacts on the shaft wore out.
Hi Sam. I've been given a DC23 to refurbish. Any advice on the cooling mechanism? Is it easy to move from the old motor to a new one? The machine is full of plaster-dust but the motor still works - for the moment :) was going to put a new one in as a precaution!
Hi Derek and Sam, have you found a way to remove the cooling mechanism at the back of the motor and put it on the new motor?
I've lifted them carefully with a flatblade screwdriver at the centre underneath, their just press fit. Then gently tap it onto the shaft on the new motor
@@beko1987 Thank you, I just did exactly the same and it needs to be done very carefully indeed. My fan has a little crack (which can either be because of the lifting or it was already there), but is good enough anyway 😃
Hi mate,I have just replaced the switch and motor and my dyson still doesn't work.
Any ideas please TIA.
Sorry mines the DC14.
Flex?
Hello, I have a burned out DC08 motor to change. Can I use a DC08 YDK motor despite my motor having no indication of being YDK?
Kiki perry I think all dc08 motors are the same. As long as it looks physically identical you should be fine, just don't buy a cheap cheap one with no thermal cutout
Hi Mate, Thanks for the vid. Is the motor a synchronous AC motor or a DC motor?
In the uk it's ac, don't know about other countries or the technical specs of electricity though I'm afraid
@@beko1987 Do you remember the RPM of this motor? Cheers
Intriguing
Is there any difference in the sound with a ydk motor compared to a genuine Dyson motor?
The YDK is genuine Dyson motor, YDK usually is the style of motor but made by different manafacturers, Mostly the DC07/14 ive seen are Panasonic but there are others out there too as 'genuine' parts, OEM from factory.
Ydk is fitted to the dc08 I'm trying to fix it.
Can u put dc07 motor in ydk dc01 housing
6yrs later and your £12 motor is now £25.
Dyson lockdown video.... lol!
Top man
Is it normal for a dyson dc14 to spark once on start up?
yes
Uh... no?
How do you fit the mtr299 to dc33? The rubber fitting for the motor doesn’t fit
Michael Vriens it does, their all the same ydk motor across all of the models. The fancase seal might need a tiny smear of something slippery to help it on, but it'll go!
@@beko1987 unfortunately not. Some dc33s for sure stupid reason use a YDK with a much slimmer fancase on them and use a different base seal too meaning they’re not interchangeable. You just need the fancase seal from say a dc14 to put in and it’ll work. It’s really stupid as some dc33s have that slim depth motor and some done it’s just pot luck with them
Are you still answering questions after all this time??
I've got one if so
My dc04 smelt of carbon for a while and 3 months later bang!
my friend you need a tool update!
I've had several since this video was filmed 😂
Did my moter sound like that
Wizarddolphin84 Sound like what? Which specific part?