For clarity, the gt86, scion frs, and Subaru brz were all released together as a collaboration between the brands. The gt86 did become the gr86, and Scion did die; however, the frs did not become the gt86
In the US? Pretty sure it was the Scion FR-S + Subaru BRZ until Scion folded and they rebranded it as the Toyota GT86. Wouldn't be surprised if it was always the Toyota GT86 in other markets, though.
It is technically correct that the GT86, FRS, and BRZ debuted simultaneously on a global view. However, the FRS did become the GT86/86/86 GT when the Scion brand folded. I don't recall which 86 name variation came out.
@@wwecallofduty123 that’s how it started, Toyota didn’t want to make a new engine for a new platform (money reasons I assume because they did this with the Supra with bmw in the future) So they called Subaru, told them they need an engine and said they can use their chasis too and they agreed. Then the BRZ, FRS, and GT86 was born but we didn’t get the GT86 in America until 2015 I think when Toyota killed scion off as a brand. They moved most of the scion line up to Toyota anyway. I know Regular Car Reviews has a more in depth story about how it actually happened. Highly recommend watching his channel!
Toyota pitched the idea for the 86 but wanted a better engine suited for the car hence why they went to Subaru because they were good at boxer engines which sat low in the engine bay because of how compact it was and Toyota didn’t wanna sell a car under their name because they weren’t known for selling sports cars persay and they thought Americans wouldn’t buy a car from over seas so they opened scion to sell the car as the frs
The 86 and frs were released a year apart lol, only in America could you get a frs as they believed it was a better name to have to attract younger people into their market Edit- yes he got it wrong at the start, how do I know? I own a 2013 toyota 86 GT, I don't live in America
the gt86 was first developed by toyota in conjunction with subaru, thats why theres also the brz. it was then released under scion for the american market. it was not from scion.
You can’t even pick up this car at Carmax, for 29k, how are you gonna get this brand new from the Toyota dealership at that price? They gonna ask for closer to 40k!!!
This is literally my favorite new car. It looks good, its lightweight , rear wheel drive with enough tech to make it nice on a daily basis without being a computer on wheels. There’s also a lot of aftermarket support. We need more cars like this.
That’s what I was thinking, this car can definitely be for learning how to drift and control the car in a pro track and then advancing into something better.. I mean the Japanese really modify them to be absolute beasts so it isn’t too bad if you know what you’re doing
@@blaze376192I mean…. Technically it is. That’s how the car moves 😂 this slow sports car is just a less mom like Corolla 😂 crazy how Toyota has 2 sports cars and neither of them have a Toyota engine but they 100% could *cough iForce hybrid max engine 🤷🏿♂️
@Damian Chiliński Yeah, most of the cars do that most of the time when the handbrake is pulled, especially on this lightweight sports car. I was just pointing out that it doesn't have a hydro handbrake.
@@JustSujC i am about to blow your mind, i am planning to buy this car for a daily use i live in a city where there’s traffic (dubai) it would be a hassle to get through traffic in a manual car especially when it’s gonna be my main car also i can’t drive manual
The nerve to say that SCION was the og brand for this model, amazing. It was a conjoined effort of toyota and Subaru and the scion was the rebrand for the us market.
@@EnhancedTrashBin lol like honestly what young adult has money to buy a new car these manufacturers are stuck in the past the people buying these are the used car market
@@william7472 do you think people tell you the selling price of their vehicle is with taxes? The point was markups take selling price over 30k. Read with your two eyes. If you’re confused on what selling price is, me telling you for MSRP + $500 off cause I financed with TFS should be clear enough lol.
Scion was meant to capture the younger people's mind. It was only in America for that very reason, rather than have toyota they thought scion would stand out more and attract more attention. The FRS is literally the 86 just with a scion badge instead of toyota, and FRS on the boot. Was looking for someone that pointed out his mistake, right at the start of the video he says FRS became the gt86, when reality is they existed at the same time, actually pretty sure FRS came out just after. I mean the FRS even have the 86 badge on the side (older models)
That WAS it being revved. 😂 that H4 sounds just plain anemic. If you make it louder it somehow sounds WORSE in my opinion. Plus, they have oil starvation issues at high lateral G load.
@@BrianlikescarsNo boi, there is no sound when he said that, so actually he didn't rev it. I think maybe ya need your ears checked, scratch that get all your senses re fucking checked bud.
@@ryannnftw Dude its awesome. I have 10k on mine. Starting to finally add some mods. Just got it ceramic tinted the other day. Its quick, handles like a dream, decent on gas, comfy, and ergonomic. Go test drive one.
@@ryannnftw I live in a snowy area and my GR86 is just fine. Don’t forget people drove rear wheel drive station wagons in the snow for years. Get some winter tires and drive safe. That’s the trade off you take for having such an awesome car.
I like the quick run down. Any space in the rear to put 2 child seat in the back? Obviously I am not the target market but would be nice. Got to bring the crew.
@@hound5948there’s enough space. People have been turboing the FA20 for a while and the isn’t exactly a Coyote. That said, these cars are so well-mated for a supercharger.
@easezgin ah I see. I'm in Ohio. Toyota is also ramping up production for all cars by double. So no matter where u live u should be able to find them relatively easy
There's a slight modification to the creation of the GR86... the Scion FR-S and Subaru BR-Z along with the Toyota 86 were all released at the same time. The 86 was only in Asia if I remember correctly, and the Scion was the affordable option to Subaru being the slightly better version. They were a co-op car, no different than the 1988-1997 DSM's (Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, Mitsubishi Eclipse). It was a shared platform vehicle with identical powertrains, and the only differences were really in small tuning changes or interior differences. So to clarify the history of this vehicle, the GR-86 is the same platform as the FR-S and BR-Z, but Scion failed and since Toyota owned Scion, they just absorbed the FR-S into the 86 and ramped up 86 production to send it worldwide instead of Asian domestic markets. I just wanted to correct the history of this because I love co-op manufacturer builds and their stories are interesting. I don't know if they still make a BR-Z but that's also why the boxer4 under the hood is a boxer4, Subaru clearly still co-ops this build with Toyota.
@@400Redsport fr I loved that car so much it was so much fun and I learned everything I know about wrenching from it just bought it knowing nothing at all not even how to do a oil change and just learned by practicing 😂
"And real side vents!" It's sad that modern cars have gone through more effort to make fake vents rather than real vents that it's surprising to see vents with actual holes even if they're in random spots
If manufacturers would just spend more time adding actual vents to cars, and making cars that are rated as low quality more reliable, then I believe so many more people would take your vehicles seriously. I personally know if I ever started a car company, I would want to make sure that my vehicles were the best quality possible, with top quality materials, and if I ever added vents, I would make them real.
picking up a premium MT in halo white for msrp next month, the halo white and floor mat package brings it to 33k before taxes. if you look you can find a decent deal on these. @@noahpickerill3749
I mean a premium 2024 model (halo white plus floor mats upcharge) msrp is 37k OTD with my states taxes, not much higher than mark up and I'm going to be honest the first dealership I called was selling for msrp so maybe I'm just lucky.
@@TonyCrispruby It was lucky. Dealership was local and car was in stock. AND I spent 4 days deciding if i wanted to buy it or not. Not a lot of demand for car like this in the north east in winter I guess.
Yeah u wont get one in Australia for $28k unless an older model. My GTS86 manual was bargain at $38k (2014) the traded in another car to reduce. Was awesome sound and fun. Looked much better inside too in comparison to this model) 😮💨
@@Cologne_Trooper Unironically? I'm pretty sure a lot of people do. Would be nice to be able to get it as a starter car, it'd work fine that way, but it's $28k. Ah well, it's the great modern car paradox, one of life's greatest mysteries
@@Cologne_Trooper this car’s for twisty roads. A 1 million horsepower car is wasted and useless if it’s just gonna keep slowing down to turn at every single hairpin.
Since it’s a Subaru boxer, these are great for mods. But it will take a lot of supporting mods before you can actually make good power. The oil system, cooling system, and heads(not the gaskets) will fail first under serious modifications. Good brands to fix these would probably be IAG, killer b, and CSF
Gt86 was actually a joint project between toyota and subaru. Gt86 was intended for European market, subaru for NA. (Scion was a marque of toyota and got a version as well)
I mean you can get a super clean e46 m3 with apple CarPlay, 105 more ponies, and every major issue is resolved with the car, upgrade the muffler and intake and it will sound like a beast, probably comes with those mods with 30k imo, mine came it with it at half the price
Dude this is what I've been wanting. Light weight (ish) RWD coupe that makes a decent bit of power, 6 speed manual, and an LSD. Imma have a lot of fun on the touge
You could also buy a used Alfa Romeo Giulia for about that same price. Get 280 HP 309 TQ to either the rear wheels or AWD. Alfa is known for it's driving dynamics. You also leather and a bunch of other cool tech. Only downside is that in the US the Giulia is auto only. It's a damn good auto though.
Subaru and toyota are best friends now cause those look like taillights off the new wrx as well as subarus boxer engine, also the FRS, gt86 were around at the same time as well as a subaru BRZ which were almost identical to each other
Cause it's the same car haha, toyota owns Subaru. They collabed on a car together to get back into the cheap affordable sports car range. They use the same engine, same body shape etc, but have a few slight differences
Thank you so much for not mentioning the Subaru BRZ! Its basicly a twin but with better lines, nicer interior and because its sales numbers are so much lower. a harder car to spot....
The Scion FRS Was Toyotas way of getting the 86 over seas, subaru had brz sales and toyota had to branch their scion division to get it marketed so it wouldnt be branded as a toyota and seen as a lesser car.
love to see the return of the actual E brake rather than the electric parking break thats on a lot of cars these days, cus lets not lie the physical E brake is cooler and more functional
I gotta say for a “short” car review this is excellent work
Thank you!
i agree
Not a review though, a showcase
Agreed
Facts
„AND, these MASSIVE exhaust tips that sound.... meh“ that had me dead for some reason
It's the way he said it
Same
@@yaaboiij280 why same
Same 😂😭
It’s the honesty 😂😂
I love how they are slowly bringing back the manual handbrake 🔥
Ew
@@GurtonBuster07wtf do you mean ew? What would you do if you're stuck with a digital hand and a dead battery on a mountain?
@@Thereal_nishikiyamashhhh, you're making him feel embarrassed
@@Thereal_nishikiyama IKR?? I always hated those types of brakes because I legit would have a dead battery and wouldn't be able to move the damn car.
@@Thereal_nishikiyama bro wont be happy until they make digital brake pedals for him too
For clarity, the gt86, scion frs, and Subaru brz were all released together as a collaboration between the brands. The gt86 did become the gr86, and Scion did die; however, the frs did not become the gt86
In the US? Pretty sure it was the Scion FR-S + Subaru BRZ until Scion folded and they rebranded it as the Toyota GT86. Wouldn't be surprised if it was always the Toyota GT86 in other markets, though.
@@nashdashflashwhenever it was mentioned or reviewed on Top Gear it was the Toyota GT-86 (UK market)
It is technically correct that the GT86, FRS, and BRZ debuted simultaneously on a global view. However, the FRS did become the GT86/86/86 GT when the Scion brand folded. I don't recall which 86 name variation came out.
Yes it did.
Don't be so petty
These reviews are more informative than many long form reviews. Keep on killing it
Toyota: “Our engines are too reliable, what should we do?”
Intern:”Put a Subaru engine in it!”
Subaru sells the same car but it's named the brz
@@wwecallofduty123 that’s how it started, Toyota didn’t want to make a new engine for a new platform (money reasons I assume because they did this with the Supra with bmw in the future) So they called Subaru, told them they need an engine and said they can use their chasis too and they agreed. Then the BRZ, FRS, and GT86 was born but we didn’t get the GT86 in America until 2015 I think when Toyota killed scion off as a brand. They moved most of the scion line up to Toyota anyway. I know Regular Car Reviews has a more in depth story about how it actually happened. Highly recommend watching his channel!
This engine really suits it though, low center of gravity, plenty of power and torque, and it loves to rev
@@castlevina8425 With the older motors maybe but these aren't using EJ motors or anything that's a few decades old.
@@mistamaog look up GR86 RTV sealant oil starvation. And toyota denied the warranty. Its a Subaru and you know it 🤷🏾
this guy has 60 seconds but even more informative than some 20 minutes videos
Toyota pitched the idea for the 86 but wanted a better engine suited for the car hence why they went to Subaru because they were good at boxer engines which sat low in the engine bay because of how compact it was and Toyota didn’t wanna sell a car under their name because they weren’t known for selling sports cars persay and they thought Americans wouldn’t buy a car from over seas so they opened scion to sell the car as the frs
@@2oh2slow I think you replied the wrong comment
@@SlavJerry but good info tho
Might as well get the new ecoboost
the information he gives at the beginning is incorrect
This was a really great 60 second review. I love the fluid transitions for example from the seats to the screen
Keep it at 420 likes
@@yungdiddy475 didn’t happen :(
@@someguywithaford bro I didn’t even realise it was 420 today that would’ve been sick if it stayed at that 😂😭
@@yungdiddy475 fr lol
That is the exact amount of tech we need.
Hear me out…
Miata for 26k
@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212 don’t fix what ain’t broken, still a great car
They're so feminine. Sorry, but I'd be embarrassed to drive one.
They are shitboxes
Hear me out e92 15k 15k mod your got your self a beast cuz that’s what I did.
Here me out....
NA Miata for 4 grand and slap yourself a fm turbo on that
I love that the car outlived it’s own brand.
Well the frs was based on the ae86 which was originally a Toyota car but I am still glad it’s being modernized
The 86 and frs were released a year apart lol, only in America could you get a frs as they believed it was a better name to have to attract younger people into their market
Edit- yes he got it wrong at the start, how do I know? I own a 2013 toyota 86 GT, I don't live in America
the gt86 was first developed by toyota in conjunction with subaru, thats why theres also the brz. it was then released under scion for the american market. it was not from scion.
You can’t even pick up this car at Carmax, for 29k, how are you gonna get this brand new from the Toyota dealership at that price? They gonna ask for closer to 40k!!!
Except it never did. Scion was only in the US. It was always known as Toyota GT86 and Subaru BRZ everywhere else.
As an STi owner I felt the “real side vents” part 😂
If it makes you feel better, the cool factor is still the biggest reason for them to exist
Meanwhile the MkV doesn't even have any side vents...
Yeah that BMW is trash 🤣
Settle down hood vent
Maybe if you used protection you wouldn’t have an sti
him: for 28k this is a lot of fun
*drives into the ocean*
💀
- him probably
then activates "SEAWAYS" 💀
Bro wanted to make it a Mercedes sea-class
"that sound meh"
me: ohhh ok
That can be fixed with an aftermarket exhaust system.
Great short review. Better than the 25 min videos others have going over the same information with a bunch of extra opinions and BS.
This is literally my favorite new car. It looks good, its lightweight , rear wheel drive with enough tech to make it nice on a daily basis without being a computer on wheels. There’s also a lot of aftermarket support. We need more cars like this.
That’s what I was thinking, this car can definitely be for learning how to drift and control the car in a pro track and then advancing into something better.. I mean the Japanese really modify them to be absolute beasts so it isn’t too bad if you know what you’re doing
And it’s a manual
@@J-ph1kqthere isn’t much room for power without heavy modification, and the torque number is sad for a modern sporty car
@@HeyhitmeBAM torque and power isn't everything
@@blaze376192I mean…. Technically it is. That’s how the car moves 😂 this slow sports car is just a less mom like Corolla 😂 crazy how Toyota has 2 sports cars and neither of them have a Toyota engine but they 100% could
*cough iForce hybrid max engine 🤷🏿♂️
“6 speed manual“ The only thing got me smiling.
The only thing you ever need in a car.
It blows my mind that anyone would get this in an automatic.
@Damian Chiliński It doesn't have a hydraulic handbrake
@Damian Chiliński Yeah, most of the cars do that most of the time when the handbrake is pulled, especially on this lightweight sports car. I was just pointing out that it doesn't have a hydro handbrake.
@@JustSujC i am about to blow your mind, i am planning to buy this car for a daily use i live in a city where there’s traffic (dubai) it would be a hassle to get through traffic in a manual car especially when it’s gonna be my main car
also i can’t drive manual
6 Speed manual and Manual handbrake
Me - ok that’s it. I want it
It's slow
@@subodhananayakkara 5.8 seconds isn't slow to 60mph.
@@letitrip5139 mmm it’s not that bad
@@letitrip5139 yes but hearing plays a huge role. 2 gears and it barely touches 60mph. After 60 it’s quite slow.
@@nicb7350 Slower than a muscle car sure, but fast enough for a sports car lol. It’s under 30k, what do you expect
A car this straight forward. And a design that isn't pretending to be anything other than what it is. I fw it
It's primarily a Subie, as you can tell by the rear lights.
The nerve to say that SCION was the og brand for this model, amazing. It was a conjoined effort of toyota and Subaru and the scion was the rebrand for the us market.
Yeah it was mean't for the Young adults which that did not go so well for Toyota.
YOU FORGOT BMW
@@EnhancedTrashBin lol like honestly what young adult has money to buy a new car these manufacturers are stuck in the past the people buying these are the used car market
@@overthrone3494 what does bmw have to do with the 86? I think you are confusing this car with the supra which was a collab with toyota and bmw
@@R_JB he's probably one of those mk4 fanboys.
The “Meh” killed me 🤣🤣🤣
“Most fun you can have under $30k! *In a world where dealership markups don’t exist*”
Edit: tHaNkS fOr ThE liKeS oH eM GeE
I got mine for $500 under MSRP with a TFS rebate
@@Salvaba In which state?
@@team3gaming749 PA
@@william7472 ok and with what car are you going to avoid paying taxes on?
@@william7472 do you think people tell you the selling price of their vehicle is with taxes? The point was markups take selling price over 30k. Read with your two eyes. If you’re confused on what selling price is, me telling you for MSRP + $500 off cause I financed with TFS should be clear enough lol.
I didnt know scion died off. Such a shame, one of the best brands on the market. At least toyota incorporated it into their normal selection.
Scion was meant to capture the younger people's mind. It was only in America for that very reason, rather than have toyota they thought scion would stand out more and attract more attention.
The FRS is literally the 86 just with a scion badge instead of toyota, and FRS on the boot. Was looking for someone that pointed out his mistake, right at the start of the video he says FRS became the gt86, when reality is they existed at the same time, actually pretty sure FRS came out just after. I mean the FRS even have the 86 badge on the side (older models)
Him: These massive exhaust's that sound meh?
Me waiting for him to rev it: 👁👄👁
That WAS it being revved. 😂 that H4 sounds just plain anemic. If you make it louder it somehow sounds WORSE in my opinion. Plus, they have oil starvation issues at high lateral G load.
@@BrianlikescarsNo boi, there is no sound when he said that, so actually he didn't rev it. I think maybe ya need your ears checked, scratch that get all your senses re fucking checked bud.
Im fortunate enough to own one. Great informative short my dude.
How is it? I'm considering one but it would be pretty much my only car so it would be a daily. Meaning I would have to drive it in snow as well.
@@ryannnftw I also own one and I gotta say …. I love it definitely fun for the price
@@ryannnftw Dude its awesome. I have 10k on mine. Starting to finally add some mods. Just got it ceramic tinted the other day. Its quick, handles like a dream, decent on gas, comfy, and ergonomic. Go test drive one.
184 lb ft of torque 🤣
@@ryannnftw I live in a snowy area and my GR86 is just fine. Don’t forget people drove rear wheel drive station wagons in the snow for years. Get some winter tires and drive safe. That’s the trade off you take for having such an awesome car.
Doug Demuro be like: why am I making a 30 minute long video instead of a 30 second one
Because he reviews the car in depth. Different types of videos
Demuro reviews the fucking stitching pattern on the seats.
@@tempestandacomputer6951 takes about 5 minutes to talk about it lol
This is why i don't like Doug's reviews. About time i find someone else who's aware of this
Absolutely love the styling, especially on the rear
just wish they added the oil pan baffle from factory so the engine doesn’t blow up
bought the first one in florida and it had 1 mile on it. i love it, the best daily i have had ever
"Most fun you can have for under $29K"
Motorcyclists: "Am I a joke to you"
Car accidents: "am i a joke to you"
@@DaddyM7MD I don't get it. Anyone can wreck
I like the quick run down. Any space in the rear to put 2 child seat in the back? Obviously I am not the target market but would be nice. Got to bring the crew.
If price isn't an issue get the GR Supra. Much bigger, but more expensive. You could always get the 2.0L turbo.
Yeah there should for sure be space for a child seat in the gr86. Since there’s a backseat. No backseat in the Supra.
@@eliotgarcia21 The Supra doesn’t have rear seats..
@@gettingaroundthegrid8628 I thought it did with its bigger size
I’m assuming not because the gt86 everyone always complained on how small the back space was
Extremely good looking. Just add a turbo and this thing will be a beast
Idk if there’s enough space for that, gonna have to make some
@@hound5948there’s enough space. People have been turboing the FA20 for a while and the isn’t exactly a Coyote.
That said, these cars are so well-mated for a supercharger.
@@backroadblast6603I’ve seen one or two videos of these things with superchargers on them, they’re crazy.
Adding a turbo ruins the whole point of a GR86
Dudes never heard of the stigma against turboing a Subaru
Most fun in a NEW car you can have under 30k
Quick, informative, and you drove it just like it should be driven. Great review! Thank you!
The new cluster is sweet in person, on the BRZ in particular with the crosshairs.
Great short man! Question is, are you getting one? 👀
You are so lucky to have it for 30k.
So its not in stock right??
@kulrajsingh2017 I'm about to get a premium trim line for 32k so u can definitely find them just gotta he patient
@@My1Key I was referring to the country you live in.
@easezgin ah I see. I'm in Ohio. Toyota is also ramping up production for all cars by double. So no matter where u live u should be able to find them relatively easy
@@My1Key Sadly in some countries taxes are out of hand and a GR86 can cost about 3 times what it costs in the US.
I love your reviews! Keep the good work, my man!
There's a slight modification to the creation of the GR86... the Scion FR-S and Subaru BR-Z along with the Toyota 86 were all released at the same time. The 86 was only in Asia if I remember correctly, and the Scion was the affordable option to Subaru being the slightly better version. They were a co-op car, no different than the 1988-1997 DSM's (Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, Mitsubishi Eclipse). It was a shared platform vehicle with identical powertrains, and the only differences were really in small tuning changes or interior differences. So to clarify the history of this vehicle, the GR-86 is the same platform as the FR-S and BR-Z, but Scion failed and since Toyota owned Scion, they just absorbed the FR-S into the 86 and ramped up 86 production to send it worldwide instead of Asian domestic markets. I just wanted to correct the history of this because I love co-op manufacturer builds and their stories are interesting. I don't know if they still make a BR-Z but that's also why the boxer4 under the hood is a boxer4, Subaru clearly still co-ops this build with Toyota.
He said "And real side vents." LOL HONDA BETTER TAKE NOTES
And so they did with the new Type R.
the “meh” did it for me🤣🤣
“Most fun for the price”
my $1000 g35 sitting in the corner: Am I a Joke to You?
A great condition g35 coupe is still much more powerful and nicer inside.
100% way better car for the money, I'd never spend 30k on something that came with a garbage Subaru engine.
@@400Redsport fr I loved that car so much it was so much fun and I learned everything I know about wrenching from it just bought it knowing nothing at all not even how to do a oil change and just learned by practicing 😂
A Mazda Miata is pretty damn fun, let's take both down a curvy road.
Coming from a 2023 BRZ owner, I love everything about this car (except the sound and gear switch delay / lag)
"And real side vents!" It's sad that modern cars have gone through more effort to make fake vents rather than real vents that it's surprising to see vents with actual holes even if they're in random spots
If manufacturers would just spend more time adding actual vents to cars, and making cars that are rated as low quality more reliable, then I believe so many more people would take your vehicles seriously. I personally know if I ever started a car company, I would want to make sure that my vehicles were the best quality possible, with top quality materials, and if I ever added vents, I would make them real.
I remember spinning out in mine after a cars and coffee. Bahahaha🤣
How did you manage that lmao
@@leftoverbrainz fr tho
@@leftoverbrainz because they don’t have power?
You aint spin nothing with 184 lb ft of torque 😂
Must’ve had the whole car meet laugh at that.
These go for 40k thanks to dealer markups
I think it's more like 40K after but yeah no thx I'm good at 28-32K
picking up a premium MT in halo white for msrp next month, the halo white and floor mat package brings it to 33k before taxes. if you look you can find a decent deal on these.
@@noahpickerill3749
I mean a premium 2024 model (halo white plus floor mats upcharge) msrp is 37k OTD with my states taxes, not much higher than mark up and I'm going to be honest the first dealership I called was selling for msrp so maybe I'm just lucky.
I really appreciate his honesty
Solid review. Quick, detailed and to the point. Doug Demero better look out
6 speed manual
Omg yes💯
" The most fun you can have for under thirty thousand dollars "
* Heroin walks in *
I have a GR86 and have done dope. Trust me, The GR86 is cheaper and more fun.
@@DevoTliar!
Best car review I’ve seen in a short
This is a master class UA-cam short!
Hats off too you stranger 🤠
“All new taillights” that Subaru has had on the wrx for the past 2 years🤣
Let’s see how much the dealers are gonna sell this one for
MSRP. that's what i paid at the dealership.
@@TonyCrispruby It was lucky. Dealership was local and car was in stock. AND I spent 4 days deciding if i wanted to buy it or not. Not a lot of demand for car like this in the north east in winter I guess.
32k for the premium
I got a premium manual for msrp. After tax and dmv it was $35,000
@@garboi8976 which state?
Best car I’ve owned no cap😂
Great vid although that Apple cinematic mode video is bad, it doesn't look good
In my country it costs double that 😢
The way he condenses the most juicy facts into an enjoyable, brief but still informative review is awesome. Oh and the cars are great too!
Good luck with that 28k, dealership are marking these up like they fast 😅
Here in my country, this car cost 68k
Yeah u wont get one in Australia for $28k unless an older model.
My GTS86 manual was bargain at $38k (2014) the traded in another car to reduce. Was awesome sound and fun. Looked much better inside too in comparison to this model) 😮💨
Man $50k at mine
Instructions unclear, bought military grade G36
miata is always the answer
too small
more expensive
This is actually faster on a straight
Too small of a car, too low, 180 hp is crap.
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam 180hp is fine when the car weighs nothing.
I'd love to see a mustang ecoboost compared to this. Sports cars for in the 25000-30000 range.
Those cars have a lot of potential and look amazing
My 2005 Honda accord had more hp...
My kia has more H.P. Than this.
Too bad hp doesn't make a car fun
@@matthewgonano636 You must love slow cars then 😆
@@Cologne_Trooper Unironically? I'm pretty sure a lot of people do. Would be nice to be able to get it as a starter car, it'd work fine that way, but it's $28k. Ah well, it's the great modern car paradox, one of life's greatest mysteries
@@Cologne_Trooper this car’s for twisty roads. A 1 million horsepower car is wasted and useless if it’s just gonna keep slowing down to turn at every single hairpin.
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Since it’s a Subaru boxer, these are great for mods. But it will take a lot of supporting mods before you can actually make good power. The oil system, cooling system, and heads(not the gaskets) will fail first under serious modifications. Good brands to fix these would probably be IAG, killer b, and CSF
"Most fun you can have for under 30k" 🧢🧢 cocaine and strippers beg to differ
I've seen a few GT86's at Barber Motorsports Park in Leeds Alabama for racing not too long ago. They handled pretty good around the corners.
Gt86 was actually a joint project between toyota and subaru.
Gt86 was intended for European market, subaru for NA. (Scion was a marque of toyota and got a version as well)
I mean you can get a super clean e46 m3 with apple CarPlay, 105 more ponies, and every major issue is resolved with the car, upgrade the muffler and intake and it will sound like a beast, probably comes with those mods with 30k imo, mine came it with it at half the price
The shift into second gear while the wheels still spun was kinda cool
Perfect car choice for Tofu.
The "meh" 😂
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Dude this is what I've been wanting. Light weight (ish) RWD coupe that makes a decent bit of power, 6 speed manual, and an LSD. Imma have a lot of fun on the touge
1200 kg isn't light enough for ya?
You could also buy a used Alfa Romeo Giulia for about that same price. Get 280 HP 309 TQ to either the rear wheels or AWD. Alfa is known for it's driving dynamics. You also leather and a bunch of other cool tech. Only downside is that in the US the Giulia is auto only. It's a damn good auto though.
Subaru and toyota are best friends now cause those look like taillights off the new wrx as well as subarus boxer engine, also the FRS, gt86 were around at the same time as well as a subaru BRZ which were almost identical to each other
Cause it's the same car haha, toyota owns Subaru. They collabed on a car together to get back into the cheap affordable sports car range. They use the same engine, same body shape etc, but have a few slight differences
Toyota, you won me over the manual gearbox and an actual handbrake 😁!!
when mass produced sporty cars dont actually cost that much more to make, most manufactures charge a significant premium
I bet we all ignored the drifting part and just listened for the engine. To see if it sounds good.
Less stuff to break....I like it 😊
GR86 MENTIONED!!! I’m getting mine tomorrow as well!!!
Man you got a little driving skills
Chirping the tires a bit 👍🏾😎
i wouldn’t say the most fun, cause you could get a C5 corvette or something similar with a v8 for more fun under 30k hell maybe even under 15k
The new front end is so classy to me 🤤
I love your honesty
In America it went from Scion FR-S to Toyota 86 to Toyota GR86 (every sport Toyota mofel gets a GR prefix now)
Thank you so much for not mentioning the Subaru BRZ! Its basicly a twin but with better lines, nicer interior and because its sales numbers are so much lower. a harder car to spot....
The Scion FRS Was Toyotas way of getting the 86 over seas, subaru had brz sales and toyota had to branch their scion division to get it marketed so it wouldnt be branded as a toyota and seen as a lesser car.
Where can you find one under $30k?? Lol
He's forgetting the AE 86
love to see the return of the actual E brake rather than the electric parking break thats on a lot of cars these days, cus lets not lie the physical E brake is cooler and more functional
Is it a turbo 4 cyl yet? If they can make that happy for under 30k with a manual it would become super popular
Man this car will look sick in black
That digital gauge cluster animation looks like it was made in PowerPoint
They look even better in person.