I just took a 22hr 1,500 mile road trip in my 23 brz and it was surprisingly comfortable and nice. No issues to report, oil temps stayed at 220-240ºF the whole time and gas mileage was sitting at around 30mpg Edit: it's been my daily driver for 14 months now and yes it's a great daily driver although city MPG is not great.
My 11' MB s550 V8 runs at about 193ish F. At sea level in FL. 240f sounds dangerously high? Also why does this engine get so low mpg? Small 4 banger I would have thought will kill my V8 in terms of gas consumption. I get 23.
As a 5ft woman looking at getting one I cannot thank you enough for that comparison! Haha I’m amazed because no one usually gives that level of comparison, it’s always my biggest worry and concern when looking at cars! Thank you!
I also am a 5' tall woman and I currently drive a '22 Crosstrek 6MT. I have a 1.5" cushion for the seat and the BEST purchase was a pedal extender for the clutch pedal. Now I don't feel like the steering wheel is in my chest, plus it's not safe to be that close if the airbag goes off.
Showing the two extremes of the size spectrum was awesome. Please do this in more of your car reviews. It is very hard to find that sort of information without extensive research online.
6 feet 215lbs and old (57) and it’s my daily. The benefits of rwd/manual/nimbleness far far outweigh any compromises. Also put a few $ into speakers and amp and greatly improved the audio. Gas is a significant expense, but fun comes at a price - I fill up with premium and don’t give it a second thought. Haven’t reset my trip odometer for about 3 months and showing 30.1 mpg since I’ve had a couple of 80-200 mile trips to take with it. Absolutely love it (and an ND2 Miata is my second car)
I own a 23 GR86. It’s my only car. I daily it to work and when picking up food and stuff from Walmart. This car is surprisingly doable for daily. IF. It’s a big if. You go in knowing what this car is and what it ain’t. You can’t go in expecting a quiet interior or a soft ride. That’s not what this car is about.
@@soumendash3911 a car that can be driven hard due to low horsepower and has the best handling for the price. The 86's nickname is the poor mans porsche.
Thanks for the video Zack, love the work. I bought one, drive it daily mostly in the canyons since I WFH. Love the car but it comes with its issues most notably due to the dealers screwing people out of the warranty. It is what it is, the car gets tracked heavily and over 3k miles I have had no issues (It better not have any yet haha)
After owning my Mazda 3 for a year I can say I truly did love the car and its many many positives like MPG, color, style etc .. I just couldn't get over the lack of sportiness and seeing that the turbo model was pricier than a base GR86 I made the easy switch and sure I've got less room but every drive in my GR brings me close to tears lol
I really want a GR86. I could make it work as a commuter but it couldn't be my only car. I already own two cars and I don't have the space or money for a third that would be a toy/nice day commuter. I'm just happy Toyota and Subaru are making them and others are buying them.
I bought one recently as a daily driver, although I do have a Tacoma for bad weather and towing/hauling. I love the GR86 so much! I have an hour commute to work, and I like driving that car so much that I find myself hitting backroads just for fun on the way home
I own a '23 GR86 and I also think it is possible to use as a daily. For me the main drawback is interior road noise which is quite loud. Also de stereo is sub-par and trying to draw out the road noise with music is also uncomfortable after a while. If you accept a loud interior, you wil get one of the best driving cars on the market today. I totally recommend it.
7000 miles in, half of that in the winter, returned an ikea table with the seats down, had tons of giggling fun sliding and driving hard on our b-roads through the woods, more than sufficient sound system, everything is where you‘d expect to find it, clutch is easy enough for heavy traffic, gearbox slightly short for extended autobahn driving at 130kph (revs over 3500 in 6th at that speed), somehow electronically restricted at 230kph even though i can‘t see why, perfectly balanced when driving spirited or at the limit, drifts the way you think cars drift after playing forza. All that fully loaded for less than a gti without options. Oh and also epic gearbox, sounds shit stock, torsen diff is the best thing ever, remember tho diff and gearbox need warming up too, engines stay warm for longer. Best damn daily i ever had. I will never sell that car. Edit: Oh also, will do a 6 hour autobahn roadtrip over 200kph without fault, the ESC will let you slide a lot more than you think if left on and if you go into the tc way too hard you might have to restart bc it stays in a lower power mode. Happened only once tho, only thing it ever did that spooked me a second.
I have a 2022 GR86 Premium with auto (bad left leg) and a 2010 VW Golf. The GR86 is both my daily driver and my track car. I've added a Tomei oil baffle pan. a wing, 20 mm spacers, oil pressure gauge, and camber bolts. Total cast under $40K. Seats are great, nicely snug and comfortable. Lots of trunk room for my walker and any other stuff I need. Came with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires which lasted 20K miles, lots of track time. I get 30.2 mpg driving mostly on the twisty back roads using Sport mode with the paddle shifters running between 3 to 5 K rpm. I always have a big smile on my face when I come back from a drive. It's as much fun as a Porsche 911 except it doesn't have the 911's horrendous maintenance costs.
I always laugh at these comments of people complaining about how hard it is for them to fit in a car that reasonably they should be able to. My friend's dad was 7'2 and drove a first gen "New" Beetle. The same friend was 6'10 (Shortest person in his family) and was able to drive my Talon with no issue but I hear all the time how someone who is 6'2 finds it impossible to fit in even though the guy who built my trans set a few world records in first gen DSMs and he is 6'5 and was wearing a helmet.
I’m 5’6” and pretty skinny this car is ridiculously comfortable if you’re short and skinny. The buckets are perfect sized and the interior space for me feels like just enough. I’ve hauled 2x4s in it as well.
Thanks for the review. This is on my list or the GR Corolla. Thanks for pointing out that Gas milage averages are better than Toyota says. Loved the fact that 4'11 fits all the way to 6'5 😅
I just got around to installing the OEM Audio+ speakers and the Beat Sonic amp. They're both relatively painless installs with their plug-and-play harnesses and well worth it in the audio department. I haven't driven it enough yet to know if the OEM OEM sub I also installed was worth it, but opted for it over the OEM+ one, since it's quickly removable to regain trunk space when needed. I'm 6'2" and "daily" it. I work from home but use it for most trips around town and have comfortably taken it on 3-4 hour road trips. I did keep my old sedan for bigger items like hardware store trips. I don't know that I'd have made it my only car even though I drive it most of the time.
lol I think you got ripped off 😂 I drive over 85 all the time and I’m still under warranty 😂 you still got time to delete this before more people see your bad information 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love mine. Its pretty decent on ride quality. That's on 17s though. The clutch spring can be a bitch at first if you aren't used to driving manuals but there are solutions for that.
@@MuseumStandard bro, google made an adaptation that when you listen to music that the navigation system automatically speaks over the music. So the app seems kinda useless too me. Greetings from europe!
As a daily driver GPS is a pretty big deal. I guess it depends on how large and complex the road network in your city is. I live in Sydney and it is already stressful enough driving to a place you've never been to before with GPS on the screen, can't imagine doing it without. And Australian laws are weird. When you first get your license you only get a provisional licence (known as P plate). You have to wait 3 years until you get a full license. When you are on your P plates you are not allowed to drive cars over a certain power to weight ratio. The first gen 86 and BRZ were one of the few new performance cars that were legal for a P platers to drive. BUT when you are on your P plates it is illegal to use your phone for navigation even if you have your phone mounted to your dash or windscreen. But there are work arounds. You can just fit an after market head unit that has Android auto or carplay and get rid of the factory one, or you can mount a dedicated GPS device to your dash or windscreen, so really the 86 not having android auto or carplay isn't really a big deal, just a bit annoying.
If I didn't have a dog, I would have one of these as a daily driver. Seems like a good compromise between sporty and practical, love the red colour too.
I truly do believe the GR 86 is one of the greatest sports cars ever made. It is like a Porsche Cayman (Which is perfection) with the added benefit of looking arguably better, but importantly of being AFFORDABLE. This is car equivalent to the love of my life. And this GR 86 and a Mazda 3 are a WONDEFUL combo.
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these back in 2017. Loved the handling and styling, did not love the engine or the interior. But I found a near ideal Cayman S for $35k, and that choice was easy. I still smile when I see these on the road.
as an owner of an automatic first gen GT86, I've daily driven the 86 for almost 10 years now and i can tell you it's doable, never once left me stranded on the road, except that one time when the starter gave out which was somewhat my own fault. it's a great fun car and i love it. btw I'm still daily driving this bad boy it's my only car, for now 😬
I had a 22 BRZ for 2 years. It was a fantastic daily driver minus a few small issues. It only takes premium which can be tough if you're travelling in remote areas. The car will run on 87, but you shouldn't push it too hard. Second, the road noise was pretty high for me. I would say it's a great daily if you don't need to regularly make 5+ hour trips and don't have kids.
This car is on the g4 impreza platform so its quite spacious for what it is. I lived with an 86 for a few years as my only car and never ran into a problem. Im 6,4 and fit better than my chevy ss/holden v6 and i had heaps of room for anything i needed with the option to put the seats down if i had more stuff than the boot could handle.
The twins are amazing sports cars! They should be flying off of lots. I’m an older enthusiast who is in driving heaven in my 22 BRZ. I lived out of an NA Miata so this has tons of room. Fits more groceries than my wife’s Renegade just more difficult to put in and take out. Compared to lightweight affordable sports cars the BRZ has very comfortable ride (for what it is). It’s a blue collar Porsche. It’s my daily and if anything happens I’m buying another the 1st time I’ve said that. Only look elsewhere if your straight line drag car driver or maybe if you have access to a track in which a Supra might be faster choice.
As a former 86 owner I can say...yes and no. As for the good: it is decently practical for a sports car. The trunk is large enough for grocery hauls and road trips. The back seat, while useless for people (who aren't children), offers additional storage. Fuel economy is good for a sports car, too. In terms of roominess and comfort: its better than a Miata, Z3, or a Mk5 Supra. Also it is an ABSOLUTE JOY to drive. As for the bad: its "tall" person friendly, but it isn't TALL person friendly. If you're 6'4" or under you'll have no problems on shorter drives but it will become extremely painful and uncomfortable for anything longer than a 30 minute drive. If you're *properly* tall (over 6'4") then don't buy into the idea that this is a "tall person's Miata." Its friendlier for tall people than a Miata, sure, but honestly *not by much.* I eventually had to sell mine due to these issues (although I still miss driving it.) Beyond that, my only other complaints are some minor (but persistent) rattling and a real lack of sound deadening (rain will clatter loudly when its wet outside.) If you're too short to play in the NBA, and don't mind some rattles, noisiness, and poor sound insulation, I can't think of a better sports car daily dollar-for-dollar. If you're properly TALL, get something like a Challenger instead, or a Porsche if you can afford one.
I daily a MK5 Supra, manual transmission, drive it to school and back, use it to have fun. Nice trunk space and gas is alright cause I live on a little island in the pacific
Kyra (or Kira, maybe? Sorry if I guessed wrong on the spelling) is a little too close to the steering wheel and airbag for comfort. 😬 She fits, but something with adjustable pedals might be safer.
This is my first new car that I daily so it seems very comfortable to me tbh. Big trunk space as well. If you’re single it’s a great daily imo. My only problem is that I chew through those pilot sport 4s a little too fast and they’re expensive
This car look's very good ! And if you wanted this car In France (no longer available), It was ~35k€ + 60k€ of pollution taxes so the car cost x3 the original price (that's why Toyota stopped it in France...)
It was down to the GR86 or the GR Corolla for me (I know, two different types of car), but I ultimately went with the GRC for the extra doors for daily use. If I had room for a second car I would have had a Prius for my daily commuter and a GR86 for the weekends though
I think all coupes should consider the 5'8 to 6'2 as a "standard height" when they are designing future cars, I mean, tall people are a nightmare to fit on coupes sport cars
i want a mazda 3 hatch soooooo badly... but i decided to be smart with my money and i bought an 05 Lexus ES330 with 100k miles for 6k instead... great car but man I wish i owned that mazda.
It’s a shame this didn’t come in AWD like what Audi did with the Audi TT back in the 2000s I’d love to have this car but the RWD is a deal breaker because of the snows that are in my area annually
Premium fuel is not "recommended" it is required. The question of is it a good daily driver is not the question to ask. It is nowhere near as good as a Mazda3 or any other sedan or small SUV. If all you want is a daily driver, look elsewhere. The question should be if your top priority is a lightweight sports car that is bearable as a daily driver. The answer could be yes depending on your tolerance for the concessions that need to be made when buying a lightweight sports car. Another question could be is the GR86/BRZ the best lightweight sports car to be used as a daily driver. The answer is yes. It beats all options for practicality/performance. I drive a Mazda3 as my daily driver and a manual BRZ as my fun car because I can have two cars.
I wanted one for my midlife crisis. When I saw how low they are I decided to get a MINI Cooper instead. Next time show an old/er man with a bit of a beer belly to see if he can get in and out the thing.
I daily drove an FC for almost 5 years. I can tell you that, without a doubt, it has to be one of the worst dailies ever, but I did it. If you really like a car, and you can ONLY have 1, I'd say go for it. You can always get another if it doesn't work out.
Every time I see a review of one of these I think how much better it would be to live with if it had a lift back (hatch?). Also, as a dad of tween age boys, I wonder how 4' 11" would fit in the back seat.
I wanted to buy this but I’m gonna go Civic Si instead as this car wouldn’t work for me, I need a backseat with actual legroom and I need something that can handle inclement weather (meaning no RWD), the GR86 is amazing but I highly recomend the Civic Si for those who want something better suited as a daily driver, I’ll be buying my Civic Si towards the end of next year as I’m still saving and I need to be 18 to put the car in my name
@@BitcoinTo100K thank you for the advice but I know what I’m doing, I’d def consider an 8th gen Civic Si for a project car if I have time/space in college (probably unlikely but who knows)
@@BitcoinTo100K I considered the Elantra N but it’s not reliable so I don’t want it, ik the 1.5T motor in Honda products had issues but the newer ones are fine
@CarGeek360 gotcha yeah that 1.5 is weaksauce dont mod it or you'll snap a rod and clutch need be replaced asap. Speaking of Elantra N throttle house extra just posted it lol. New one runs same times as Nismo Z and Type R what a car I had blast with one for a weekend
I came close, close to buying one not as a daily but as a weekend toy .....But instead I went with the 2024 WRX. The lack of space and the ability to still get my kids to hockey practice with gear and trips to the cottage with my weekend fun toy was the kicker on top of the AWD and substantially far more power.
I spent the last three years using its predecessor, the GT86, for three YEARS. Is it a good daily driver? Dude, I live in Europe, where we actually NEED TO TO DRIVE CARS. The answer is a simple YES. Fuel economy? It's a JAPAPNESE CAR. NOT SOME AMERICAN FUEL BURNER. You guys over there don't even know what that means. Grow up!
Remind me again why would you drop a whopping 40k on this thing while you can get crossovers and suvs as fast and at the same price, with way more room, plush, and options?
GR86 is more prone to turn-in compared to its BRZ brother which I and many other prefer, also where I live BRZs are overpriced compared to GR86's so that's subjective I guess lol .. Not to mention Toyota gives you a high performance driving session and 2 years of toyota-care maintenance included with every GR purchase ❤ Subarus is a whatever brand frankly.
Sooooo I forgot to put the time stamp on screen but my final thoughts start at 5:30
Spend some that youtube bread get one life is short
I just took a 22hr 1,500 mile road trip in my 23 brz and it was surprisingly comfortable and nice. No issues to report, oil temps stayed at 220-240ºF the whole time and gas mileage was sitting at around 30mpg
Edit: it's been my daily driver for 14 months now and yes it's a great daily driver although city MPG is not great.
Automatic or manual?
@@calvin4319 manual
@@calvin4319 manual
220-240 seems high, no? I only ever see around 210 except for hard driving
My 11' MB s550 V8 runs at about 193ish F. At sea level in FL. 240f sounds dangerously high? Also why does this engine get so low mpg? Small 4 banger I would have thought will kill my V8 in terms of gas consumption. I get 23.
As a 5ft woman looking at getting one I cannot thank you enough for that comparison! Haha I’m amazed because no one usually gives that level of comparison, it’s always my biggest worry and concern when looking at cars! Thank you!
I also am a 5' tall woman and I currently drive a '22 Crosstrek 6MT. I have a 1.5" cushion for the seat and the BEST purchase was a pedal extender for the clutch pedal. Now I don't feel like the steering wheel is in my chest, plus it's not safe to be that close if the airbag goes off.
As a tall guy, I appreciate Matt for scale and would love more scale references for other vehicles.
I like the fit test. Keep it, and make it your thing. Very informative
as a short guy, I appreciate Matt for scale and would love more scale references for other vehicles.
Showing the two extremes of the size spectrum was awesome. Please do this in more of your car reviews. It is very hard to find that sort of information without extensive research online.
6 feet 215lbs and old (57) and it’s my daily. The benefits of rwd/manual/nimbleness far far outweigh any compromises. Also put a few $ into speakers and amp and greatly improved the audio. Gas is a significant expense, but fun comes at a price - I fill up with premium and don’t give it a second thought. Haven’t reset my trip odometer for about 3 months and showing 30.1 mpg since I’ve had a couple of 80-200 mile trips to take with it.
Absolutely love it (and an ND2 Miata is my second car)
Absolute hero.
I have the 24 BRZ as my primary vehicle and I love it.
I own a 23 GR86. It’s my only car. I daily it to work and when picking up food and stuff from Walmart. This car is surprisingly doable for daily. IF. It’s a big if. You go in knowing what this car is and what it ain’t. You can’t go in expecting a quiet interior or a soft ride. That’s not what this car is about.
Truth.
Then it's about what?
@@soumendash3911 a car that can be driven hard due to low horsepower and has the best handling for the price. The 86's nickname is the poor mans porsche.
@@trik68 how many u have from that?
@@trik68 My man saying 228hp is "low hp" and here I am with my Renault Kangoo with only 95hp smh I wanna cry😭😭
Thanks for the video Zack, love the work. I bought one, drive it daily mostly in the canyons since I WFH. Love the car but it comes with its issues most notably due to the dealers screwing people out of the warranty.
It is what it is, the car gets tracked heavily and over 3k miles I have had no issues (It better not have any yet haha)
Thank you for this video bro honestly now all I gotta do is get a good enough paying job to pick one up
Good luck man!!!!! :) Please know that you got this man!!!!! :) Also, if it is alright to ask, please reply to this comment once you get one! :)
Bro literally the same
After owning my Mazda 3 for a year I can say I truly did love the car and its many many positives like MPG, color, style etc .. I just couldn't get over the lack of sportiness and seeing that the turbo model was pricier than a base GR86 I made the easy switch and sure I've got less room but every drive in my GR brings me close to tears lol
I really want a GR86. I could make it work as a commuter but it couldn't be my only car. I already own two cars and I don't have the space or money for a third that would be a toy/nice day commuter. I'm just happy Toyota and Subaru are making them and others are buying them.
I bought one recently as a daily driver, although I do have a Tacoma for bad weather and towing/hauling. I love the GR86 so much! I have an hour commute to work, and I like driving that car so much that I find myself hitting backroads just for fun on the way home
I own a '23 GR86 and I also think it is possible to use as a daily. For me the main drawback is interior road noise which is quite loud. Also de stereo is sub-par and trying to draw out the road noise with music is also uncomfortable after a while. If you accept a loud interior, you wil get one of the best driving cars on the market today. I totally recommend it.
I had one, the answer is yes. Rides a tad rough but not so much that you will hate it.
you're very well spoken. Great video!
7000 miles in, half of that in the winter, returned an ikea table with the seats down, had tons of giggling fun sliding and driving hard on our b-roads through the woods, more than sufficient sound system, everything is where you‘d expect to find it, clutch is easy enough for heavy traffic, gearbox slightly short for extended autobahn driving at 130kph (revs over 3500 in 6th at that speed), somehow electronically restricted at 230kph even though i can‘t see why, perfectly balanced when driving spirited or at the limit, drifts the way you think cars drift after playing forza. All that fully loaded for less than a gti without options. Oh and also epic gearbox, sounds shit stock, torsen diff is the best thing ever, remember tho diff and gearbox need warming up too, engines stay warm for longer. Best damn daily i ever had. I will never sell that car.
Edit:
Oh also, will do a 6 hour autobahn roadtrip over 200kph without fault, the ESC will let you slide a lot more than you think if left on and if you go into the tc way too hard you might have to restart bc it stays in a lower power mode. Happened only once tho, only thing it ever did that spooked me a second.
I have a 2022 GR86 Premium with auto (bad left leg) and a 2010 VW Golf. The GR86 is both my daily driver and my track car. I've added a Tomei oil baffle pan. a wing, 20 mm spacers, oil pressure gauge, and camber bolts. Total cast under $40K. Seats are great, nicely snug and comfortable. Lots of trunk room for my walker and any other stuff I need. Came with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires which lasted 20K miles, lots of track time. I get 30.2 mpg driving mostly on the twisty back roads using Sport mode with the paddle shifters running between 3 to 5 K rpm. I always have a big smile on my face when I come back from a drive. It's as much fun as a Porsche 911 except it doesn't have the 911's horrendous maintenance costs.
I always laugh at these comments of people complaining about how hard it is for them to fit in a car that reasonably they should be able to. My friend's dad was 7'2 and drove a first gen "New" Beetle. The same friend was 6'10 (Shortest person in his family) and was able to drive my Talon with no issue but I hear all the time how someone who is 6'2 finds it impossible to fit in even though the guy who built my trans set a few world records in first gen DSMs and he is 6'5 and was wearing a helmet.
I’m 5’6” and pretty skinny this car is ridiculously comfortable if you’re short and skinny. The buckets are perfect sized and the interior space for me feels like just enough. I’ve hauled 2x4s in it as well.
Thanks for the review. This is on my list or the GR Corolla. Thanks for pointing out that Gas milage averages are better than Toyota says. Loved the fact that 4'11 fits all the way to 6'5 😅
This was a really great video, I appreciated your vibe.
Great Video! Maybe you can do some on your RCs as well 😎
See this the type of car content I need
I just got around to installing the OEM Audio+ speakers and the Beat Sonic amp. They're both relatively painless installs with their plug-and-play harnesses and well worth it in the audio department. I haven't driven it enough yet to know if the OEM OEM sub I also installed was worth it, but opted for it over the OEM+ one, since it's quickly removable to regain trunk space when needed.
I'm 6'2" and "daily" it. I work from home but use it for most trips around town and have comfortably taken it on 3-4 hour road trips.
I did keep my old sedan for bigger items like hardware store trips. I don't know that I'd have made it my only car even though I drive it most of the time.
You can't drive over 85 mph.
Why?
Your warranty will be expired.
lol I think you got ripped off 😂 I drive over 85 all the time and I’m still under warranty 😂 you still got time to delete this before more people see your bad information 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@setitup89 Search "GR corolla fire" in UA-cam. Your warranty already expired. You have the bad information.
@@setitup89 hes referring to the gr corolla that had its warranty voided
@@setitup89 ironically, you still have time to delete this too
Buy a 2025 Mazda3 Turbo premium. its better.
Love mine. Its pretty decent on ride quality. That's on 17s though. The clutch spring can be a bitch at first if you aren't used to driving manuals but there are solutions for that.
Dude come on, what do you need apple car play and android auto for? Just connect with bluetooth and let the music rip!
navigation
It lets the music rip and you get the navigation at the same time. It's hard to go back to just bluetooth alone.
@@MuseumStandard bro, google made an adaptation that when you listen to music that the navigation system automatically speaks over the music. So the app seems kinda useless too me. Greetings from europe!
As a daily driver GPS is a pretty big deal. I guess it depends on how large and complex the road network in your city is. I live in Sydney and it is already stressful enough driving to a place you've never been to before with GPS on the screen, can't imagine doing it without.
And Australian laws are weird. When you first get your license you only get a provisional licence (known as P plate). You have to wait 3 years until you get a full license. When you are on your P plates you are not allowed to drive cars over a certain power to weight ratio. The first gen 86 and BRZ were one of the few new performance cars that were legal for a P platers to drive.
BUT when you are on your P plates it is illegal to use your phone for navigation even if you have your phone mounted to your dash or windscreen.
But there are work arounds. You can just fit an after market head unit that has Android auto or carplay and get rid of the factory one, or you can mount a dedicated GPS device to your dash or windscreen, so really the 86 not having android auto or carplay isn't really a big deal, just a bit annoying.
If I didn't have a dog, I would have one of these as a daily driver. Seems like a good compromise between sporty and practical, love the red colour too.
Don't take any right handers abd you got yourself W. perfect nascar car.
I truly do believe the GR 86 is one of the greatest sports cars ever made.
It is like a Porsche Cayman (Which is perfection) with the added benefit of looking arguably better, but importantly of being AFFORDABLE.
This is car equivalent to the love of my life.
And this GR 86 and a Mazda 3 are a WONDEFUL combo.
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these back in 2017. Loved the handling and styling, did not love the engine or the interior. But I found a near ideal Cayman S for $35k, and that choice was easy. I still smile when I see these on the road.
I agree as older enthusiast I absolutely love the performance for price. I call my BRZ my blue collar Porsche.
as an owner of an automatic first gen GT86, I've daily driven the 86 for almost 10 years now and i can tell you it's doable, never once left me stranded on the road, except that one time when the starter gave out which was somewhat my own fault. it's a great fun car and i love it. btw I'm still daily driving this bad boy it's my only car, for now 😬
I had a 22 BRZ for 2 years. It was a fantastic daily driver minus a few small issues. It only takes premium which can be tough if you're travelling in remote areas. The car will run on 87, but you shouldn't push it too hard. Second, the road noise was pretty high for me. I would say it's a great daily if you don't need to regularly make 5+ hour trips and don't have kids.
Genuinely in love with this car...
Track bred with red brembos looks so good.
subscribed. I like how you do reviews, keep at it.
I'd love to see you compare this to a GTI, and the Mazda 3 hatch!
This car is on the g4 impreza platform so its quite spacious for what it is. I lived with an 86 for a few years as my only car and never ran into a problem. Im 6,4 and fit better than my chevy ss/holden v6 and i had heaps of room for anything i needed with the option to put the seats down if i had more stuff than the boot could handle.
The twins are amazing sports cars! They should be flying off of lots. I’m an older enthusiast who is in driving heaven in my 22 BRZ. I lived out of an NA Miata so this has tons of room. Fits more groceries than my wife’s Renegade just more difficult to put in and take out. Compared to lightweight affordable sports cars the BRZ has very comfortable ride (for what it is).
It’s a blue collar Porsche. It’s my daily and if anything happens I’m buying another the 1st time I’ve said that. Only look elsewhere if your straight line drag car driver or maybe if you have access to a track in which a Supra might be faster choice.
As a former 86 owner I can say...yes and no.
As for the good: it is decently practical for a sports car. The trunk is large enough for grocery hauls and road trips. The back seat, while useless for people (who aren't children), offers additional storage. Fuel economy is good for a sports car, too. In terms of roominess and comfort: its better than a Miata, Z3, or a Mk5 Supra. Also it is an ABSOLUTE JOY to drive.
As for the bad: its "tall" person friendly, but it isn't TALL person friendly. If you're 6'4" or under you'll have no problems on shorter drives but it will become extremely painful and uncomfortable for anything longer than a 30 minute drive. If you're *properly* tall (over 6'4") then don't buy into the idea that this is a "tall person's Miata." Its friendlier for tall people than a Miata, sure, but honestly *not by much.* I eventually had to sell mine due to these issues (although I still miss driving it.) Beyond that, my only other complaints are some minor (but persistent) rattling and a real lack of sound deadening (rain will clatter loudly when its wet outside.)
If you're too short to play in the NBA, and don't mind some rattles, noisiness, and poor sound insulation, I can't think of a better sports car daily dollar-for-dollar.
If you're properly TALL, get something like a Challenger instead, or a Porsche if you can afford one.
Daily and 1000 mile review don't belong in the same line. Drive it 20,000 miles and come back
Great vid as always zack!
This is so good and helps a lot. Thank you so much...
I daily a MK5 Supra, manual transmission, drive it to school and back, use it to have fun. Nice trunk space and gas is alright cause I live on a little island in the pacific
Kyra (or Kira, maybe? Sorry if I guessed wrong on the spelling) is a little too close to the steering wheel and airbag for comfort. 😬 She fits, but something with adjustable pedals might be safer.
I'm stoked to hear that the new one is getting that turbo 3cyl.
Just hope it comes stays in Germany.
This is my first new car that I daily so it seems very comfortable to me tbh. Big trunk space as well. If you’re single it’s a great daily imo. My only problem is that I chew through those pilot sport 4s a little too fast and they’re expensive
This car look's very good ! And if you wanted this car In France (no longer available), It was ~35k€ + 60k€ of pollution taxes so the car cost x3 the original price (that's why Toyota stopped it in France...)
Great daily. My GT86 has all the space I need.
The answer is... Absolutely yes! Has been so since 2013
If this car had a targa option I would definitely buy one.
It was down to the GR86 or the GR Corolla for me (I know, two different types of car), but I ultimately went with the GRC for the extra doors for daily use. If I had room for a second car I would have had a Prius for my daily commuter and a GR86 for the weekends though
I think all coupes should consider the 5'8 to 6'2 as a "standard height" when they are designing future cars, I mean, tall people are a nightmare to fit on coupes sport cars
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i want a mazda 3 hatch soooooo badly... but i decided to be smart with my money and i bought an 05 Lexus ES330 with 100k miles for 6k instead... great car but man I wish i owned that mazda.
I can sleep comfortably in my BRZ. I removed the back seat and got bucket seats for extra room.
I forgot to ask… Did it pass the Big friggin bottle test?
It’s a shame this didn’t come in AWD like what Audi did with the Audi TT back in the 2000s
I’d love to have this car but the RWD is a deal breaker because of the snows that are in my area annually
Premium fuel is not "recommended" it is required.
The question of is it a good daily driver is not the question to ask. It is nowhere near as good as a Mazda3 or any other sedan or small SUV. If all you want is a daily driver, look elsewhere.
The question should be if your top priority is a lightweight sports car that is bearable as a daily driver. The answer could be yes depending on your tolerance for the concessions that need to be made when buying a lightweight sports car.
Another question could be is the GR86/BRZ the best lightweight sports car to be used as a daily driver. The answer is yes. It beats all options for practicality/performance.
I drive a Mazda3 as my daily driver and a manual BRZ as my fun car because I can have two cars.
I wanted one for my midlife crisis. When I saw how low they are I decided to get a MINI Cooper instead. Next time show an old/er man with a bit of a beer belly to see if he can get in and out the thing.
That was basically everyone in this video.
A fun car, but it starts at 80 grand in my country and goes up to 120k for the 3 liter version. Nuts
Now The Big Question Did The Big Friggin Bottle Fit? 😂 I had to ask 😅
Would you recommend this as a car enthusiast first car ?
I think I’ll pick one of these up and use my 335i to go to Costco
Cool stuff.
I have 11K on mine no trouble, great daily driver
I daily drove an FC for almost 5 years. I can tell you that, without a doubt, it has to be one of the worst dailies ever, but I did it. If you really like a car, and you can ONLY have 1, I'd say go for it. You can always get another if it doesn't work out.
You can also hire another car, get a taxi or have it delivered. I have a new BRZ but I also have a sedan and a truck too!
I had an fc(86) when I was young and I'd say my da integra(91) I owned was 10x worse.....but the fc was still bad lol.
for 30k the used market gets you so much more car. Also the target market of this car can't afford 30k+.
I got my GR86 premium for 29k out the door (it doesn’t have the brembo’s tho) it is a used 2022 with 4k miles
If we didn't have 3 kids...I would have an 86 or BRZ instead of my WRX for sure.
Every time I see a review of one of these I think how much better it would be to live with if it had a lift back (hatch?). Also, as a dad of tween age boys, I wonder how 4' 11" would fit in the back seat.
We did try that as well off camera, she fit OK but not great.
I also picked a 2006 Civic instead of a 2021 Type R because it was more practical and drove fine. 7:05
5' 11.75" I i think I want this over a miata
I wanted to buy this but I’m gonna go Civic Si instead as this car wouldn’t work for me, I need a backseat with actual legroom and I need something that can handle inclement weather (meaning no RWD), the GR86 is amazing but I highly recomend the Civic Si for those who want something better suited as a daily driver, I’ll be buying my Civic Si towards the end of next year as I’m still saving and I need to be 18 to put the car in my name
Too young for $30k car if you making payments. Just buy 8th gen Si they way more fun more character new one is soulless
@@BitcoinTo100K thank you for the advice but I know what I’m doing, I’d def consider an 8th gen Civic Si for a project car if I have time/space in college (probably unlikely but who knows)
@CarGeek360 cool maybe drive the Si and Elantra N same day before you sign anything. It's a HUGE difference in performance almost same price
@@BitcoinTo100K I considered the Elantra N but it’s not reliable so I don’t want it, ik the 1.5T motor in Honda products had issues but the newer ones are fine
@CarGeek360 gotcha yeah that 1.5 is weaksauce dont mod it or you'll snap a rod and clutch need be replaced asap. Speaking of Elantra N throttle house extra just posted it lol. New one runs same times as Nismo Z and Type R what a car I had blast with one for a weekend
Where do you get 100K mile warranty? US GR and BRZ seem to only get 5yr/60k mile powertrain.
Subaru gives 8yr/unlimited mile/km warranty in Europe, pretty mad.
Under 40.000? Damn. Where I live they go for 60-70.000. Why? Because car guys can't have nice things in Norway
I came close, close to buying one not as a daily but as a weekend toy .....But instead I went with the 2024 WRX. The lack of space and the ability to still get my kids to hockey practice with gear and trips to the cottage with my weekend fun toy was the kicker on top of the AWD and substantially far more power.
Its ight till you start packing a bit of mileage them the Subaru come out 😂
I hope it is a great car look good in red
Looks sick in orange also !
Question. Is oil pressure drop on right turn fixed yet?
Eh, we just finished swapping a v8 into a clean one that had a dead motor. Great bargain. Compared to expensive brand new sports cars.
BRO GOT A 4'11" CHICK AND ASKED IF SHE COULD FIT????
2 years ago they would say for just around 30000 dollars, about the gr86
I spent the last three years using its predecessor, the GT86, for three YEARS. Is it a good daily driver? Dude, I live in Europe, where we actually NEED TO TO DRIVE CARS. The answer is a simple YES. Fuel economy? It's a JAPAPNESE CAR. NOT SOME AMERICAN FUEL BURNER. You guys over there don't even know what that means. Grow up!
bros telling me the GR86 is a bit small for daily driving, but he doesnt know i daily a NA Miata
most of performance/sports cars are fuel hogs, they chu fuel very fast so you have to take daily fuel budget in consideration
How did you change the exterior color in between?
Too bad new Civic Type R is so expensive. The 10th gen was more reasonably priced.
Remind me again why would you drop a whopping 40k on this thing while you can get crossovers and suvs as fast and at the same price, with way more room, plush, and options?
its actually 30k
Because it's a fun-to-drive sports car. You obviously don't get that. Why did you watch the review?
as an asian guy, I appreciate Matt for scale and would love more scale references for other vehicles.
Would you say its a fast car?
The interior is all Subaru. It's almost like Toyota didn't even try to make their own unique interior for this car. Badge engineering indeed.
It's a good platform for badge engineering.
Under 30k$ in the US... In France 100k$
Damm that’s good mpg my STI gets me 21 mpg 😭
10 year warranty?
That looks like a Subura infotainment system, not a Toyota.
My 16 year old daughter is 4' 11", she isn't getting one of these.
It's not really a Toyota. It is a Subaru BRZ with a Toyota badge and the Toyota version is more expensive then the Subaru
GR86 is more prone to turn-in compared to its BRZ brother which I and many other prefer, also where I live BRZs are overpriced compared to GR86's so that's subjective I guess lol ..
Not to mention Toyota gives you a high performance driving session and 2 years of toyota-care maintenance included with every GR purchase ❤
Subarus is a whatever brand frankly.