When you install a 40-tooth sprocket on the Coleman CT200U-ex

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  • When you install a 40-tooth sprocket on the Coleman CT200U-ex
    Removed the 50-tooth sprocket and Installed a 40-sprocket.
    Did a top-speed run to see how much faster the bike would be with the 40-tooth gear?
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  • @johnnyphillips9735
    @johnnyphillips9735 3 роки тому +4

    Good information guys i like your work my Coleman will do about 40 fast for a 62year old man im not through with it yet looking for 60 you got a new sub

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Colman bikes are really nice bikes .

  • @gregsteele9002
    @gregsteele9002 2 роки тому +18

    I ride my 200ex on off-road trails & gravel back roads mostly, I'll probably go with 46 or 50 tooth for the extra acceleration power through the dirt. But if I had more paved roads I'd rock that 40

    • @Chapoblends
      @Chapoblends 9 місяців тому +1

      With what tooth clutch?

  • @fatbuddycat
    @fatbuddycat 3 роки тому +2

    I love it! Exact opposite of my issues but same awesomeness!!

  • @eyehearther111
    @eyehearther111 3 роки тому +2

    Shes a beast! Can't wait to ride it again.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      Ya, it's a beast! It's gonna get even more beastly later on.

    • @eyehearther111
      @eyehearther111 3 роки тому

      @@Black66 yes im looking forward to it.

  • @davidspaur8588
    @davidspaur8588 5 місяців тому +1

    I built an electric razor frame...stretched it 10 inches...went with a 212 predator...run a 12 tooth sprocket on engine and 15 tooth on jackshaft a 1.25 ratio...put clutch on right side of jack shaft to wheel...10 to 48...1:6 total ratio...clutch kicks on 2500 rpm...nice take off...40+ mph...my son that rides a Harley dyna even likes it...

  • @toolcartel4213
    @toolcartel4213 3 роки тому +6

    Awesome. I haven’t reached sprockets yet I’m waiting on parts like the mikuni and 18lbs valve springs etc but I thought people went with higher tooth count but I literally haven’t looked too far into it yet. I’ll get there sooner than I think tho lol. I’m about to order this same bike also. That will be number 6 🤦‍♂️

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +2

      Awesome! Bike 6 . These are nice bikes.
      I think it all depends on what you want. If you want higher speed then a smaller sprocket will do the trick. Or Visa versa.

    • @datvitoforensrcle5334
      @datvitoforensrcle5334 3 роки тому

      @@Black66 interesting i also have 6 just bought ct200u ex dark blue came

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@datvitoforensrcle5334 Nice bike ! It kinda seems like you like those bikes lol
      I have more videos on this bike and more coming .

  • @johnk6346
    @johnk6346 3 роки тому +7

    I would have thought the bike would have gone faster with the bigger sprocket. Shows you what I know

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +2

      That's ok. It's all for fun anyway.

  • @fatbuddycat
    @fatbuddycat 3 роки тому +6

    There are a lot of "cooler" things they do on the big tire bikes. I love mine for that reason. Small tire bikes seem to require a bit more finesse.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      Ya, true . I like the big tire bikes too.

    • @nickclashez
      @nickclashez 2 роки тому

      In this late but I have both small and bike tire bikes ... Love a small tire bike with no suspension . 5 mph doesn’t seam like a lot until you run someone that goes 5 mph slower then you lol

  • @watchme1368
    @watchme1368 11 місяців тому +1

    Good video

  • @nativeson3233
    @nativeson3233 Місяць тому

    Ive got a cc100x, predator 224,governor just bypassed,adjustable normal carb with stock emulsion tube, .37 jet, ngk tr55 v-power plug (the autolite 3910x is ok too), air filter/stack,intake breather,straight pipe, 15 tooth clutch, 75 tooth sprocket, and Im maxing out at 45mph on flat road. I weigh 170 n have a 20lbs back pack. Still tries to pull a wheelie on flat OR up hill.

  • @bradsoto8244
    @bradsoto8244 2 роки тому +2

    I should be able to use same part for a Bt200x ?

  • @mikebeegle8900
    @mikebeegle8900 Рік тому +1

    What exhaust you have on the air and where do I get it from?

  • @jackdaniel2047
    @jackdaniel2047 Рік тому

    I keep breaking chains, I got a new one just the other day that is a heavier duty chain that last longer and etc have the cleaning stuff for it and have cleaned it once already, but my master link broke off and is gone but my chain I still have, this is the 5th time this has happened any ideas?

  • @kailay5612
    @kailay5612 2 місяці тому

    So how many change do I need to take off the chain for the sprocket to fit just one?

  • @braxtonwestlick6690
    @braxtonwestlick6690 Рік тому

    I'm confused I just got a sprocket 37 tooth same bike how do I remove the links from the chain

  • @rheymans
    @rheymans 2 роки тому +3

    Sweet video. Easy to follow. How many links did yall end up removing from the chain?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks! I think we removed 6 links

  • @bradygainey8043
    @bradygainey8043 Рік тому

    What’s the measurements of the sprocket because that link dos t work anymore

  • @hellheart1993
    @hellheart1993 3 роки тому +3

    This bike is awesome not too sure what to do next. So far. Street tires, nitros, bullet flywheel this bike should be done far as I know. It's now faster than the 100cc mini bike. Although y'all never change the socket on the smaller bike. The rear might be 75tooth and it topped out 40mph Maybe it need 5-10 teeth down. Not to much or it won't reach past 40mph at all. And it's a slight chance the jackshaft set up might give you more speed than the torque converter. You can change the sprockets on the jackshaft too for more speed. Another guy did 55 mph on a ct200u by making the smaller sprocket on the jacketshaft bigger. It turned the back wheel more than a smaller sprocket

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +2

      Ya, it's all about gearing. It all depends on what you want out of the bike. We could gear it for more top speed, but we want a balance between top speed and low-end torque.

  • @djacksono9318
    @djacksono9318 4 місяці тому

    my coalman ct100u dose 43 max i still have a governor i put a 212cc engine in it and a stage 1 kit thats it but it keeps wanting to stop on me while im driveing and idk why anyone got any ideas on why ??

  • @ryansioux
    @ryansioux 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey love these videos they have been helping me alot. Thank you. The link for the sprocket is broken and all I can’t seem to find them anymore. Is there another place lace I can order?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  10 місяців тому +1

      I fixed the link. Thanks!

  • @98.SUPPORTER
    @98.SUPPORTER 3 роки тому +1

    on a coleman 100 frame with a 212 stage 2 kit, what do you perfer on sprocket an clutch setup? How many T front an back?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      I like the clutch setup. Check out this video. It's running a 6.25 ratio. 12 front 75 rear in this video. I also tried a 5.1 ratio. A 15 on the clutch. Both work well. ua-cam.com/video/tj8XxfvMbRE/v-deo.html

  • @cutterkelsch6936
    @cutterkelsch6936 Рік тому +1

    Can it go up steep hills still

  • @cesarborunda5224
    @cesarborunda5224 Рік тому +1

    If I install a torque converter and stage 1 kit on a 212 pred I can still use the stock 50t sprocket right or would I have to change it ??

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Рік тому

      It depends on how you ride. If the bike spends most of its time on the road you may want to keep the 50 tooth. For trail riding with hills to climb the 60 tooth works great.

  • @bradcarpenter2396
    @bradcarpenter2396 2 роки тому

    What torque did it take to tighten the flywheel. Buddy.

  • @novamike3614
    @novamike3614 2 роки тому +1

    Hey 66 another great video. I'm over here in bullhead and a cop pulled me over telling me I need to have my bike registered and insured. Have you had any trouble with police up there in Kingman about your mini bikes? Thanks

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      No, not yet. i try to ride outside of town as much as I can now.

  • @donkeyhole2782
    @donkeyhole2782 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think the one brake is enough stopping power for the bike; especially at 44 MPH?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      Ya, the brake on the CT200U-EX does a pretty good job at slowing me down. I'm pretty lightweight.
      I might look at upgrading them at some point.

  • @brg88tx
    @brg88tx Рік тому +2

    I really like that muffler you have on your bike. In the description when you click on the link for the muffler it pulls up a different one. Do you have a link to the exact muffler you have on this bike in this video? Thanks

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I have the link for the pipe in a different video in the CT200U-EX playlist. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/Tga6b-Ip6SY/v-deo.html

  • @glennguerra2326
    @glennguerra2326 Рік тому

    What is the number so I can order parts ?

  • @jeromefinley7743
    @jeromefinley7743 2 роки тому +1

    Love the videos, where did you get your 40 tooth rear sprocket from.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      I left the link in the description for the sprocket. Thanks for watching the videos.

  • @davidspaur8588
    @davidspaur8588 11 місяців тому +1

    If you get a chance can you build the 13 tooth sprocket and 2 clutch system...it might work great...I been watching your videos and love these Coleman's...I am going to buy one from the hardware store I work at...

    • @Black66
      @Black66  11 місяців тому

      I like the Colemans too. Fun bikes!
      Ya, that would be a fun video . A 2 clutch .

  • @timcowley4411
    @timcowley4411 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I got the same bike stocked right now just bought a predator 212 for it and ordered a stage 1 kit for it. Been watching your videos I really been learning a lot from you. Fina order the 40t rear sprocket you used in this video do you think I should keep the same clutch or change it out. Would like more speed and torque since I’m a heavier guy would u say keep the jackshaft or change it out for a torque converter or is straight chain better

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching the videos. You will need a different clutch for the 212 unless your going to use a torque converter. The 212 has a 3/4 shaft vs the 196 16mm shaft.
      If you are a bigger guy I would go with he jackshaft or torque converter. Straight chain wont have any low end , especially with the 40 sprocket and if you are a heavier guy.

    • @timcowley4411
      @timcowley4411 2 роки тому

      @@Black66 ok thank you I’ll go with the torque converter so what clutch you think would be best for the predator 212 with the 40 sprocket

  • @josephgames5755
    @josephgames5755 Рік тому +1

    what about the flywheel? i have the same bike and same mods just worried of going over 5500rpm because of the flywheel exploding on me. help?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      I have a video on a cast flywheel and a billet flywheel. Both would be better , but they dont have the magnets for the charging coils for the light. Check out the playlist. Thanks for watching!

  • @chayton4003
    @chayton4003 2 роки тому +8

    my ct200u-ex does 45 with torque converter, intake, header, and jet kit. still has the governor too. the rear sprocket was upgraded to a 72 tooth before i got it and it’s crazy that it still does 45 with that. now i want to get a smaller sprocket and see how fast i can get it without removing the governor

    • @Proto2011Rail
      @Proto2011Rail 2 роки тому

      Stock carb ?

    • @chayton4003
      @chayton4003 2 роки тому

      @@Proto2011Rail yeah just jetted

    • @iamsofak1ngwetotedd781
      @iamsofak1ngwetotedd781 2 роки тому

      Wow you did all that to get it to 50 miles an hour I changed my timing key in my springs and I’m already reaching 42 miles an hour with a big sprocket

  • @user-yd7zd2iv1g
    @user-yd7zd2iv1g Рік тому

    What size chain?

  • @joshoconnor9666
    @joshoconnor9666 2 роки тому +3

    Not including a carb swap, or governor, what would you say was the one single mod that gave you the most noticable performance boost?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      We have tried so many different combos with this bike it's hard to remember them all. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

    • @DogMan077
      @DogMan077 Рік тому

      I would say a torque converter would be the most noticeable for me

  • @reddaily11
    @reddaily11 Місяць тому

    This guy has some tried and true subscribers his videos have almost the same amount as his subscribers he is way underrated tho 😢

  • @grandwaha
    @grandwaha 2 роки тому +2

    You need the torque converter conversion. And then some really great brakes.

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 3 роки тому +1

    should i get one of these stock for 500 or a murray track 2 with a 212 the guy says it does wheelies and goes 45 mph which one black dude66 need ya advice

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      I think it depends on what you want. If you just want a cruiser, go ahead and grab the new one. If you are like me and would change out the small engine for a bigger one anyway, then you might as well get the bike that has the swap already done. That way you can spend the money on Performance engine parts for the Predator. Hopefully it's in decent shape.

    • @Spacecruizer203
      @Spacecruizer203 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 thanks man ima check it out

  • @stanlucas665
    @stanlucas665 3 роки тому +2

    You kids are having way to much fun 😂

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +2

      Yes!! We are having a blast. This life is way too short. We gotta have fun.lol

    • @stanlucas665
      @stanlucas665 3 роки тому +2

      @@Black66 ya know, you keep pushing your minibikes faster and faster you’re gonna run into that little thing we call death wobble. When you start getting closer to 65MPH I would seriously suggest adding a steering damper to the front end to eliminate any death wobble. Other than that keep up with the mods and great videos

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      @@stanlucas665 Thanks.Funny you mention that. We have a video coming up where I go 68 plus MPH with that little blue bike. It felt like 100 LOL. I was scared the tires would pop. I could have used that stabilizer bar. I think sometimes we push the fun a little too far.

    • @stanlucas665
      @stanlucas665 3 роки тому +2

      @@Black66 don’t we all. The steering dampers are fairly inexpensive. You can find some adjustable ones on eBay for less than $40.00

  • @jonkucer5989
    @jonkucer5989 Рік тому +1

    Just ordered that same 40t sprocket earlier. Same everything minus 10 teeth. Should be way faster being straight chain! Just need a chain breaker and a new chain

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      Yes! Have you seen the straight-chain videos? ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html

    • @jonkucer5989
      @jonkucer5989 Рік тому

      @@Black66 yes I have. First mini bike and im in love with the thrill. Can you please tell me what rear rim I need to buy to be able to run a slotted disc rotor? I would like to keep the same 19x7-8 tires on

  • @hellheart1993
    @hellheart1993 3 роки тому +2

    I also found a 37tooth sprocket but it's not for the mini bikes. I'ma try to put it on anyway and I'll keep y'all posted on how it went. I think I should make videos too this is fun

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      I think you should!

    • @hellheart1993
      @hellheart1993 10 місяців тому

      I finally tested a 37 tooth rear sprocket and for me it feels the same for takeoff and it topped out 47mph. When I topped out it still had plenty of power for an even smaller sprocket but my frame is in the way for that

  • @darrinbarnard6797
    @darrinbarnard6797 3 роки тому +2

    From stock price to current mod how much cost was it?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +4

      The Mikuni carb kit was $60, the sprocket was $30 and the header was $50 with the silencer. So On the high end, I would say $150 total. And the nice part about it is, The Mikuni is super easy to tune and will support later modifications to the engine.

  • @joeyornelas4316
    @joeyornelas4316 3 роки тому +7

    Take that Jack shaft off put converter and do 50 easy. I have a baja mini bike all stock with converter Gov bypassed and I'm doing 50

    • @GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB
      @GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB 2 роки тому +1

      same set up i recommend if u just take the jack shaft alone it will boost u up a lil over 40 alon

  • @blitz0138
    @blitz0138 Рік тому

    How have the upgrades affected the longevity of the engine? Is she still running okay, or has it detonated itself?

    • @FatMajorKoob
      @FatMajorKoob 8 місяців тому

      I put one on mine a couple years back and it runs pretty good still. Mine has pretty much the same mods he does.

  • @bradygainey8043
    @bradygainey8043 Рік тому +1

    I take mine on dirt and have some steepish hills and take it on pavement a bit more than dirt but have some steep hills still would this mod be good / ok for this

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      It pulls really well with the torque converter and the 40-tooth but if you are a heavier rider I would just leave the 50-tooth on there.

  • @dunamon
    @dunamon Рік тому

    Hi Black. Just replaced my Baja Warrior's 199 cc with the 420 Predator. Jackshaft had to be removed as the new motor barely fit. Anyway, Replaced the clutch and put on a 40 tooth. Ratio is now 12 to 40. Now running straight chain. I.m 200 lbs. Can't get moving as the chain "Clunks" and wont move with me on it. It will move with no one on it, What's the fix for this?? Higher tooth rear sprocket? Torque converter? PLEASE HELP

    • @jonkucer5989
      @jonkucer5989 Рік тому +1

      Try throttling it while going down a hill. That's a pretty tall gear. I'm about to do the same but I weigh 70 pounds less than you. If he can do it using a torque convertor than I know it's possible.

    • @dunamon
      @dunamon 7 місяців тому

      5 months later & finally got it right. Watched Black66 videos on torque converters. Installed one and with the 40 tooth this thing is a beast! Pulling wheelies and going 45 MPH!

  • @smallengines4us922
    @smallengines4us922 3 роки тому +2

    Where did you find the sprocket?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +2

      I found it on eBay. I would have posted the link but the seller doesn't have anymore. I think it might be worth looking around eBay at other sellers. Never know what you might find.

  • @troyewing3188
    @troyewing3188 2 роки тому +1

    Where did you purchase that sprocket 40 tooth

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +1

      I put the link in the description

  • @troyholland3436
    @troyholland3436 Рік тому +1

    Will this add speed with the jack shaft ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Depends on the combo. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

  • @hellheart1993
    @hellheart1993 3 роки тому +3

    I'm shocked they found a 40tooth sprocket I can't find any more out here Philly I felt like I bought the last one for the past 3 months. But yeah a smaller sprocket gives more top speed uses less gas and less stress on the motor. Is there a link or way to purchase the 40 tooth sprocket directly.

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 2 роки тому +2

      There is more stress on the engine and drivetrain with the 40 tooth. Engine has to work harder against the load.

    • @litnlarry
      @litnlarry 9 місяців тому +1

      Studz racing has them. So does Amazon.

    • @sssvdvb8355
      @sssvdvb8355 7 місяців тому

      @@litnlarrywhat do i type in for the amazon one

    • @litnlarry
      @litnlarry 7 місяців тому

      @@sssvdvb8355 what are you looking for? And what bike?

    • @litnlarry
      @litnlarry 7 місяців тому

      @@sssvdvb8355 Ct200uex 420 sprocket

  • @Rogerdiaz12
    @Rogerdiaz12 3 роки тому +2

    What was 4:22 for and what mini bike is the best for offroad thanks.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      We were using a chain breaker to shorten the chain at 4.22
      This is a pretty good bike for off-road trail riding because it's geared for low-end torque from the factory with its jackshaft. And it has a front suspension.

    • @Rogerdiaz12
      @Rogerdiaz12 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 what chain does 40 teeth fit in this coleman, just asking

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@Rogerdiaz12 It's a 420 chain on this bike.

  • @PL4SMA
    @PL4SMA 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have the exhaust link?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      Yes, www.gopowersports.com/header-pipe-coleman-200-mega-moto-212-w-gasket/

  • @littlebowbigarrow1956
    @littlebowbigarrow1956 9 місяців тому +1

    You gotta do a 12T type B sprocket on the jackshaft roller and a 15T type c on the driver and itll probably be way faster less torque though

    • @Black66
      @Black66  9 місяців тому

      Check out the Mega Moto playlist. We got the bike to over 60 MPH with the driver driven! ua-cam.com/video/W8lcopztTxQ/v-deo.html

  • @TheBiliken
    @TheBiliken 3 роки тому +1

    Seems like it took sometime to get there, how does it do off-road with loss of torque?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      It does awesome! Surprisingly torquey with the governor removed with the Mikuni carburetor and the header pipe. It also gained some torque back with the 7 degree flywheel key. It's a beast!

    • @TheBiliken
      @TheBiliken 3 роки тому

      What do you mean by a 7degree flywheel? Is this the stock 196 hisun motor?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +3

      @@TheBiliken yes, stock internal 196 , but we advanced the timing 7 degrees. That gave it alot of throttle response.

  • @thatotherguy9917
    @thatotherguy9917 Місяць тому +1

    what chain breaker do you use?😊

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Місяць тому +1

      Here is the link for the chain breaker www.gopowersports.com/chain-breaker-for-3-8-1-2-and-5-8-pitch-chain/

  • @cutterkelsch6936
    @cutterkelsch6936 Рік тому +1

    What size chain is this

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Standard 420 chain. Came stock on the bike. Check out the Coleman playlist for more on this bike. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

  • @mklein5179
    @mklein5179 3 роки тому +1

    How do you like that scissor lift??

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      Ah, that thing is sweet! And inexpensive at Harbor freight too!

  • @shootinnscootin5545
    @shootinnscootin5545 3 роки тому +3

    Makes for more speed but less torque for climbing hills. I kind of want to be somewhere in between.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      That’s the surprising part . Not sure if you watched the other videos but by adding the 7 degree timing key and the header pipe and carb and governor removal it has a lot of torque and is fast . It’s a beast

    • @shootinnscootin5545
      @shootinnscootin5545 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 That's awesome! I'm still new to these things but I'm learning a lot and having a great time buying them for me and the family and teaching my fiancé and the kids how to ride.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      @@shootinnscootin5545 Awesome! ! Having fun with this stuff is what it's all about. I learn something every day wrenching on these things.

  • @axelabaj9661
    @axelabaj9661 Рік тому +1

    great video i have the same mini bike ct200u ex i need the same part rear sprecket.can you tell me the part number or link for this part.than you

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! The links are in the description of the videos.
      The link might not work anymore. If not you can find this sprocket on Amazon or eBay. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for may more combos with this bike. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

    • @axelabaj9661
      @axelabaj9661 Рік тому +1

      thank you for you help i really like all your videos.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      @@axelabaj9661 Thanks for watching the videos!

  • @joemontgomery9420
    @joemontgomery9420 2 роки тому +1

    where did you get the sprocket

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      The link is in the description ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

  • @marshin5105
    @marshin5105 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone know what the valve lash is on a 196cc Colman mini bike

  • @jesussolis936
    @jesussolis936 3 роки тому +1

    Where did you get that jack stand?

  • @paytonbepopin
    @paytonbepopin Рік тому +1

    i bought a axis m200 and got rid of the stock engine to add a 224cc predator engine and straight chained it, and it going 51mph.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Nice! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I have a couple bikes on there that are straight-chained.
      ua-cam.com/video/Up6TpJiopEo/v-deo.html

  • @l.a.m7645
    @l.a.m7645 3 роки тому

    How much was that harbor freight Jack?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      It was around a hundred bucks, but you can get it cheaper if you go on the harbor freight database and get a coupon.

  • @shawntorrez6722
    @shawntorrez6722 Рік тому +1

    were did you buy that sprocket ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Links for the parts used are in the description of the videos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more engine and part combos with this bike. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

  • @brg88tx
    @brg88tx Рік тому +1

    I really want to do this upgrade, but am concerned about the chain hitting the crossbar. It looks like it clears in this video, but read a review on amazon that said he had to buy a riser plate to avoid the chain hitting the crossbar. Can anyone else confirm that the chain running the 40t sprocket will not hit the crossbar on a CT200U-EX? Thanks

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      The chain cleared with the 40 sprocket on this bike without any clearance issues. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more combos with this bike. Thanks for watching!

    • @brg88tx
      @brg88tx Рік тому +2

      @@Black66 Just installed my 40 tooth sprocket....went from 26 to 33 mph! All stock, just removed throttle screw. I think this is the best balance of torque and speed. BTW, I did not move my motor and only took out 6 links of chain.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      @@brg88tx Awesome!

    • @JorgeSanchez-ev6ku
      @JorgeSanchez-ev6ku 9 місяців тому

      @@brg88txThe chain wasn’t hitting with the 40 sprocket? You didn’t need to buy anything else or do any adjustments?

    • @brg88tx
      @brg88tx 9 місяців тому

      @JorgeSanchez-ev6ku No sir, the chain does not hit the crossbar. Just need to take out a few links (6 if I remember right) to compensate for the smaller sprocket. It's nice...good acceleration and I can hit 33 mph.

  • @715_BJ
    @715_BJ 2 роки тому +2

    Do you think it would have a quicker start up when you hit the gas if it had a torque converter?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I use a torque converter and many other combos. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

  • @richardgraham6548
    @richardgraham6548 2 роки тому +1

    Hello where did you get the 40 tooth sprocket?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +1

      From this seller on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/254912621046?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    • @richardgraham6548
      @richardgraham6548 2 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 thanks love the videos

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      @@richardgraham6548 Thanks!!

  • @l.a.m7645
    @l.a.m7645 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video. With that 45mph did you upgrade the jet also?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Yes, i changed out the jet . I have more videos with this bike on my channel

    • @l.a.m7645
      @l.a.m7645 3 роки тому

      Thanks for quick response. IDK if stock carburetor stock jet won't come out and do I need to buy an aftermarket stock carburetor in order to get stock jet out?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@l.a.m7645 ya, alot of the Coleman bikes come with non removable jets . I had to drill out the jet on my cc100x bike . One good thing about it is , you can pick up an entire Mikuni carb or aftermarket carb pretty inexpensive.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@l.a.m7645 I think some of the bigger bikes have a removable jet .

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      It depends on the area it was manufactured for and if it is an EPA carburetor

  • @l.a.m7645
    @l.a.m7645 3 роки тому +1

    Did u use a new chain and if so what size?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      No, we used the chain that came with the bike

    • @l.a.m7645
      @l.a.m7645 3 роки тому

      I'm getting my mini bike 200 next week should I get the BT200 or CT200?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      @@l.a.m7645 Nice! They're both good. The BT has really thick frame tubing. They both can be modified. I think it's a personal preference.

    • @jtbassgambler2594
      @jtbassgambler2594 2 роки тому

      @@l.a.m7645 I'd go with the bt 200

  • @troyholland3436
    @troyholland3436 Рік тому +1

    Will the 35 tooth fit with out hitting that bracket under it?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      Not sure. I haven't tried a 35 yet.

    • @troyholland3436
      @troyholland3436 Рік тому +1

      @@Black66 it’s frustrating I got the 60 tooth on rn and I love the torque but I hate how slow it is what can I do to keep the torque but go decently fast?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      @@troyholland3436 BUild the engine to turn more RPM'S like we did in some of the videos in the playlist. If you check out the Mega Moto playlist we got a MM 212 to over 60 MPH and in the three second range frome zero to thirty with a built engine and an 40 to sprocket. ua-cam.com/video/VbcpA0jdSIw/v-deo.html

    • @troyholland3436
      @troyholland3436 Рік тому

      @@Black66 I don’t understand what can I do to keep the torque but add speed ?

  • @troyholland3436
    @troyholland3436 Рік тому +1

    Is the 40 tooth good for a straight chain?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      No, I wouldn't use it for a staright chain set up on a big bike with big tires. It will be too high of a ratio and hard on the clutch.

    • @troyholland3436
      @troyholland3436 Рік тому

      @@Black66 so you’d say stick with the 50?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      @@troyholland3436 yes, or even a 60 tooth like in this video. Check it out...ua-cam.com/video/avdJE34nFIU/v-deo.html

  • @Exclusv
    @Exclusv 3 роки тому +1

    I tried a clutch and a 40 and 50 tooth and I don’t know if something was wrong but my takeoff was terrible, my engine would rev I wouldn’t go anywhere I like torque convertors a lot more

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +3

      Ya, I'm not sure why yours wouldn't take off. . This bike moves out really well for some reason. We have a video coming out where it gets a little more snappy.

    • @Exclusv
      @Exclusv 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 I’m not sure if this is only with the hemi version of the billet side cover but can you get your hose barbs all the way screwed in? It gets tight about half way I asked someone else that had the hemi and said the same thing happens for them. I got 1/8 npt hose barbs I’m pretty sure those are correct

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@Exclusv It's that way on the standard Predator too. That are fine that way. They dont need to be tightened all the way down. Just until they are snug. They are made of soft material.

    • @Exclusv
      @Exclusv 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 could I just let the oil drain out the catchcan or should I put a hose to put it back in the engine?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@Exclusv I like putting the oil in a catch can because it vents the engine.

  • @mylandbristow6854
    @mylandbristow6854 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man, can I but this mini bike from you?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      It's actually my sons' bike. I don think he would want to sell it yet. He hasn't had it too long.

  • @---bj8ty
    @---bj8ty 3 роки тому +1

    Should i buy a stage 1 kit or get a smaller or larger sprocket

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      I would say get the engine going first. It won't run very fast with the governor and stuff like that

    • @---bj8ty
      @---bj8ty 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 sure, rn i have a torque converter, 3910x spark plug, abd 18lb valve springs, i dont really want to get billet rods and flywheels but is there anything i could do u think to pick up the speed just a tad more

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      @@---bj8tyIf you add that sprocket . It will gain some top speed .

    • @---bj8ty
      @---bj8ty 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 the smaller one?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      @@---bj8ty yes, the 40 tooth . I’m pretty sure the link is in the description on one of the cc200 videos

  • @Spacecruizer203
    @Spacecruizer203 2 роки тому +1

    hey what happened to your boy i dont see him in any vidz in a long time

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      He moved for now.

  • @Strict30
    @Strict30 3 роки тому +1

    Jackshaft holding it back

    • @Strict30
      @Strict30 3 роки тому

      Man that bike looks like it be a great off road bike

  • @appreciatizer5911
    @appreciatizer5911 Місяць тому +1

    What would be better? The 12 tooth on the front or the 40 tooth on the rear? Does it matter?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Місяць тому

      Whatever is easier for you .

    • @appreciatizer5911
      @appreciatizer5911 Місяць тому +1

      @Black66 both are fine. So they would have the same effect on gearing/speed?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Місяць тому +1

      @@appreciatizer5911 I think the 40 might drop it a little more but if you are a heavier rider the 11 or 12 tooth swap might be better.

    • @appreciatizer5911
      @appreciatizer5911 Місяць тому +1

      @Black66 was just curious. was thinking of changing my rear sprocket but I have a 12 tooth from the GPS torque converter I bought still in the box. So if it saves me 30 bucks from buying a rear sprocket ill just do that

    • @appreciatizer5911
      @appreciatizer5911 Місяць тому +1

      @Black66 gotcha. Thank you sir. I've learned a lot from you the past month. I've been binge watching ur channel lol

  • @gagejohnson8031
    @gagejohnson8031 2 роки тому +1

    Be honest how bad is the acceleration
    Because I’m thinking about getting one

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      It’s actually really good . Better than stock after we did the torque converter

    • @gagejohnson8031
      @gagejohnson8031 2 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 Rn I have a Baja doodle bug mini bike with a 212 and a torque converter with a 70t rear sprocket
      Do you think it I get a 40t back sprocket my acceleration would be bad or no
      My frame only ways like 30 pounds with no engine

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      @@gagejohnson8031 I think the acceleration will be pretty good . Especially with that small tire bike .

    • @gagejohnson8031
      @gagejohnson8031 2 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 thank you

  • @catyamman
    @catyamman 2 роки тому +1

    You need to indicate the engine RPM!!

  • @bigdaddyjesse8280
    @bigdaddyjesse8280 3 роки тому +1

    What is the point in having less teeth?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому +1

      Higher gear ratio and more top speed.

  • @2-stroke748
    @2-stroke748 Рік тому +1

    I just bought a 20 tooth

  • @1_SLOW_WORKTRUCK
    @1_SLOW_WORKTRUCK 3 роки тому +1

    I got mine to go 48-50mph with similar set up just a 72t rear sprocket and stock carburetor bigger jet

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      You have a lot better setup.

    • @iamtheoffenderofall
      @iamtheoffenderofall 2 роки тому

      I call bull on that claim. Think of a bicycle...small front sprocket, large rear sprocket, you pedal your ass off, but you go no where. Large front sprocket, SMALL rear sprocket, you pedal your ass off, you fly. You know nothing with that statement regarding gear ratios.

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 2 роки тому

      @@iamtheoffenderofall It's only bull if you assume the jackshaft was used. If you straight chain a 10 tooth to a 72 tooth you should get to 50 mph IF you can get to mid 6K RPM.

    • @kx1260
      @kx1260 Рік тому

      @@Deucealive75 I'm not afraid to admit I don't quite understand ratios too well . Anyway I could bump that number up to 55mph on a straight chain set up ? I'd be fine replacing the clutch sprocket too if needed to boost it .

    • @Deucealive75
      @Deucealive75 Рік тому

      @@kx1260 Straight chain on a Coleman usually means a 10/50 tooth. I don't recall what mph Black was getting but to get 55 you will need more than a stock engine. And the weight of the rider plays a big part in how fast you could go.

  • @mbarnes931
    @mbarnes931 3 роки тому +1

    No torque converter? if not why have u decided against it?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      For this combo we were trying to see what top speed we could get with the jack shaft . I like torque converters . It depends on what we are trying to do at the time . My video that just came out on Saturday , I put a Juggernaut on a Doodlebug .

    • @mbarnes931
      @mbarnes931 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 Thanks for the reply, i purchased the same bike and was trying to decide what mods to do

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@mbarnes931 surprisingly this thing is pretty torquey with the jack shaft and the smaller sprocket. We did add a Mikuni VM22 carburetor ,a header pipe and also advanced the timing 7 degrees

    • @mbarnes931
      @mbarnes931 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 do u have a link for the smaller sprocket? im looking to do the same set-up

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      @@mbarnes931 www.ebay.com/itm/254912621046?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

  • @dinocitybikelife
    @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому +1

    No sprocket change

  • @sanhoe1472
    @sanhoe1472 Рік тому +1

    What tooth clutch you running

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому +1

      In this video it was running the stock jackshaft. It has had many different combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html

    • @sanhoe1472
      @sanhoe1472 Рік тому +1

      @@Black66 I don’t see a video you showing what clutch you was running with the 40 tooth sprocket

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Рік тому

      @@sanhoe1472 It was the stock 10 tooth with the jack shaft.

    • @sanhoe1472
      @sanhoe1472 Рік тому +1

      @@Black66 do you think a 15front and a 40 rear is good for top speed or a 12/40 is good or what do you think is good for top end speef

    • @sanhoe1472
      @sanhoe1472 Рік тому

      Speed

  • @noahechols4118
    @noahechols4118 2 роки тому +1

    My monster moto with predator 212 goes 33 mph with stock parts and the governor still on, and a 75 tooth sprocket… that thing should be goin 50 already…

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      It does go 50. Check out my other videos

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      You will really like my video where my Azusa bike almost hits 70 MPH!! It's a beast!

  • @charlesyates6687
    @charlesyates6687 3 роки тому +1

    I'd add a couple teeth to the front sprocket.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      We have tried all different kinds of combos with this bike. Check out our other videos. And More to come.

  • @modernheadshots1724
    @modernheadshots1724 11 місяців тому +1

    Straight chain it with a stage 2 clutch

    • @Black66
      @Black66  11 місяців тому

      Here is the straight chain video. Also, check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more parts and engine combos with this bike ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html

  • @kingazhar1212
    @kingazhar1212 7 місяців тому

    The way the chain got tension would decrease the rolling capacity of the wheels bro re check it

    • @Black66
      @Black66  7 місяців тому +1

      Check the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and gear ratio combos with this bike ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html

  • @JNC1973
    @JNC1973 2 роки тому

    I'm so confused I thought for a higher top speed you needed more teeth on the rear not less lol ? But what the hell do I know ? I was just looking at 60 tooth sprockets on line to replace my 50 tooth but now that I saw this video I'm like HUH ? I need to buy a lower tooth sprocket instead ?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому

      Ya, a smaller rear sprocket should get you some more top speed .

  • @Deucealive75
    @Deucealive75 2 роки тому +2

    Most interesting thing here is you were turning around 6300 RPM on the top speed run. On stock valve springs? And 39 MPH with the 50 tooth is around 7000 RPM. This is amazing if those are stock valve springs.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +4

      Totally stock internals . I’m surprised on how well this thing has held up so far . It has been ran hard for months now .

    • @GluteusMax777
      @GluteusMax777 2 роки тому +2

      @@Black66 after i broke in my 200u ex for an hour i was running 21mph,removed the throttle limiting screw it went up to 25 mph, zip tied the governor spring and it went up to 33 mph, added a straight pipe and i gained another mph and faster acceleration. Then i put 18# valve springs and now I'm getting 40 mph. That's about as fast that i need to outrun the German shepherd about a mile down the road.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 роки тому +1

      @@GluteusMax777 LOL, And that stuff isnt even that expensive. win win

  • @gotsm9959
    @gotsm9959 3 роки тому +1

    Why hasn't anyone designed a roller chain with tiny bolts instead of this ribbit madness.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 роки тому

      That would be cool! Like small Allen head bolts

    • @gotsm9959
      @gotsm9959 3 роки тому +1

      @@Black66 Yes and and colmen should just use a pipe exhaust, instead of that grill.

  • @dinocitybikelife
    @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому +15

    Take off the Jack shaft it’ll hit 50 bro 👍🏻

  • @dinocitybikelife
    @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому +3

    I got mine doing 60 mph

    • @DEPSTEPS
      @DEPSTEPS 3 роки тому +1

      Damn !you located in the I.E?

    • @dinocitybikelife
      @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому

      @@DEPSTEPS yes I’m from San Bernardino I build them

    • @dinocitybikelife
      @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому

      @@DEPSTEPS I topped out at 60 with no gear change and regular clutch

    • @DEPSTEPS
      @DEPSTEPS 3 роки тому

      @@dinocitybikelife word I put 1 together recently for the first time might need some minor adjustments you at a shop or house?

    • @dinocitybikelife
      @dinocitybikelife 3 роки тому

      @@DEPSTEPS what do you need done to it I work from home bro

  • @schade419
    @schade419 2 роки тому

    Hey guys I need help with my bike someone dm me please

  • @Aux1Dub
    @Aux1Dub Рік тому

    44.69 Ronnie Mac would be proud