CT200u EX Mini Bike Sprocket Change
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2021
- Today I am going to show you how I changed out my 50 tooth sprocket with a 60 tooth on my Coleman CT 200U EX Mini Bike which I call "Trail Force One". This offers a 17% increase in torque to get up those steep hills.
I'll demonstrate the torque increase on my trails at "Hemm Roid Hill", which is way steeper than the video makes it look. I will include the Amazon Links below for the sprocket itself, the chain, etc. Thanks so much for watching and consider subscribing if you aren't already! Enjoy!
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a.co/d/25wT2Vu
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Great video you answered a ton of my questions. And made me laugh 😃 can't wait to watch the torque converter video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the nice comment FCGT! I try to be as thorough and funny as I can...glad you enjoyed!
Yeah Trail Force One!!! I liked the spin you did on the trail.
Ha ha! Thanks Mike! You should see it with the CVT (torque converter) installed!
Cool video. I own that same mini bike and I love it. I was listening and I dont think you were into the throttle very much. When climbing hills you have to wind them tight at the bottom and dont let off till you get to the top. My coleman climbs hill with ease, but im giving it plenty of throttle. When in doubt, GAS IT!
Thanks! I'll be sure to give it a try when I'm out next. I love mine too. Thanks for watching and stay tuned and please consider subscribing and clicking on the bell notifications. There's a playlist on the trail force one videos that keeps growing!
Deeznuts you couldn't stop yourself I know 😂 Quick spin move nice ! 👊
Ha ha! Glad you enjoyed! Yeah, hard to resist an opportunity to use those jokes.
A nice header pipe and stage 1 you should be set 💨🔥🔥 great video 📷📸
Thanks for watching! I bought a header pipe, which I plan on making a video in the future showing its installation. There's a lot more coming. My account is temporarily demonitized because I was late filling a questionnaire thing that was from Google. It should be straightened out, but I am not uploading anything until they fix it. It screwed my last video's performance from day one royally.
Do some of the free mods like porting. Will gain 11% more torque.
Also drill out your exhaust muffler for better flow.
Hmmm thanks Rossman. I didn't know about either of those mods. I have a header pipe with a different muffler, but I will maybe look into both of those prior to the header and gage the performance. Thanks!
I highly recommend a predator 212. Cheap to build, also easy to work on. If that's not an option, if you get a jet kit, cone filter, and exhaust (probably 100$ kit) you will have a noticeable increase in power in about 20 mins.
Thanks Rusty! I have a header pipe that I haven't put on yet, mainly because I want to make a video showing the improvement. I'm always up for suggestions for future video materials.
Something unrelated I need to ask you.. Are you Dale Gribble in disguise??
@@themostlymikeshow2582 hahahaha. That depends... Are you the alien that the gubment sent here to steal my Area51 research collection? Or do you just need bug spray? Haha. No problem. That's cool, I'll be checking in to see what's next, been looking at channel. Well I think a good lighting video would be cool or one on some foot pegs. Those are areas I haven't got to yet, along with gearing but learning it now.
Lighting Improvement is definitely on the radar. I definitely want to add a switch to be able to shut the light off. That orange spot on the POV footage has to go, LOL. I am thinking about going with some kind of battery light. Any research that I've seen says that the Magneto will actually blow LED lamps up. I am a huge King of the Hill fan. Some of my older videos show me wearing the orange Mack ball cap! 😂😂😂
@@themostlymikeshow2582 I had to take mine light off because of the low light output and the blinding flashes when the sun hit it. I have thought of trying to make a truck off-road light work with a tool battery. Awesome show. Needs rebooting.
@@rustyshackelford9414Thanks! I was actually thinking about using a tool battery as well. Leds would run a long time on those I'm not sure what you mean by rebooting.
How many links does the new chain need to be for the 60t? Your Amazon links are broken
Hi Jay. Sorry about the delay response. I updated the link in the description, and I will include it here :
420 Motorcycle Chain - 420 Standard Roller Chain for 110cc 125cc Go Kart Dirt Pit Bike ATV Quad Scooter Mini Bike, Total 132 Links, Free Chain Breaker Included a.co/d/25wT2Vu
Thank you for letting me know about the deadlink. As for how many links there are, this link has the chain breaker included along with a couple Master links. I usually relieve the chain tensioner a few turns and then just match the chain up. It may vary from bike to bike depending on where the chain tensioners are adjusted to. I hope that this helps.
Hi my tires have been worn down on my minibike do you know where I can get spares
Hi! Thanks for watching. This link is for the original tires that came with the Coleman ct200u-ex like Trail Force One has. There are other options on Amazon for different treads. I hope that this helps. Here's the link :
amzn.to/3E5Y94I
Hopefully you keep the 60 tooth with the torque converter. That's the way to go. I run a 9/60 tooth on my Coleman. The only issue is that I have to be very careful with the throttle at slower speeds or it will wheelie out. Otherwise it's near perfect for trail riding.
I see they raised the price on the 60 tooth. I paid $28 shipped last year for mine.
Thanks for watching and the advice Deucealive. The torque converter install went well and I did keep the 60 tooth sprocket in back as you said. I am still running the stock front sprocket, which I believe is an 11 or 12 tooth. It doesn't seem as snappy out of the hole with the torque converter, but it definitely goes up the hills excellent once it engages. I think that I am going to buy a set of springs and experiment, which will be a an entire separate video. There's going to be a lot of future Trail Force One videos coming up. I try to mix it up between mountain biking, tools, mini bikes and a little home projects.. I think that the mini bike vids are the funnest ones to make.
@@themostlymikeshow2582 Cool. The "standard" sprocket they come with for our 420 chains is a 10 tooth.
Surprised the "out of the hole" isn't better with the TC. In theory the final gearing would be 16/1 (2.68 x 6). As opposed to the 12/1 with the jackshaft.
@@Deucealive75 it seems much more powerful when it gets moving, but seems like the rpms need to get in a certain range until it engages. It then seems to slip a little. I noticed that the belt seems to be pretty slack. I got some other belts in that will hopefully be a little tighter fit so it engages tighter faster. Does that make sense to you?
@@themostlymikeshow2582 I don't have any experience with non stock belts. The engagement RPM on my stock TC driver is higher than the stock clutch. Very different engagement feel.
The belt has to have a certain slack to it to be ok while the engine is idling. A tighter belt would put more pressure on the bronze bushing which is there for when the bike is stopped and the engine is idling.
Ok. Mine is loose enough to effortlessly remove it, which made me wonder if it was too loose. I definitely get that it needs slack to idle, but I wasn't able to get info on it anywhere. Go power sports didn't answer when I called.
You stated 420 chain but how many links do you suggest? thanks
Thanks for watching Victor. I forget how many links that chain finally had after tailoring it to Trail Force One.
The process is pretty easy. I usually loosen the Adjusters on the rear wheel to about 3/4 of the way loose. I then thread the chain as it would normally go and just break it where it touches. They are pretty forgiving and those slack adjusters will take up at least two links worth of slop.
I added a link for the chain in case you needed one. The new chains come with plenty of links, which I have one in my new Amazon store as a suggestion which comes with extra master links as well as the chain break tool. I'll put the link below, and include it in the description. I hope that this helps.
a.co/aKGcgU4
They should make you the spokesman for the mini bike division at coleman powersports. Man you could make some killer videos compared to the ones they're recently putting out.
Thanks for watching and the kind words Kyle! That would definitely be a dream come true! Not sure if the folks at Coleman even know that I exist, lol. I will be making more Trail Force One videos soon with more upgrades.
What length of chain did you use thanks!
Thanks for watching Smity. I never really measured the length of the chain when I added this.. I usually count the links, or loosen the tensioner to about 25% from All the way loose, and match up the end. The new chains are plenty long enough, and some of them on Amazon come with a chain breaker tool as well as extra master links. Would you like me to add one with that stuff to my Amazon store?
Sure! Thanks
I need some nuts an bolts for mine I only have one nuts an bolt holding it in an it's welded on
Why not install this sprocket on the wheel before installing the wheel?
Thanks for watching Steven. I really don't see any reason why you couldn't install it with the wheel off. The only reason I can think of that I did it the way I did is because the break linkage was still hooked up on the opposite side and I would have been forced to do it in place whereas with the wheel l completely installed everything is held better while I turn wrenches. That is the only reason that I can think of.
This is one of funniest channels on my subscription list! LOL Thank you
Thanks for watching SSS. Glad you enjoyed! I try to make humor, good camera angles, and good information priority one in every video. I appreciate the kind words!
Wat size are the sprcet nuts
Are you talking about thread size or wrench size?
Just got mine today. So stoked. Where did you get your rack from? The ones I find say NOT for ex models:(
Thanks for watching Kristin! I made several videos of the upgrades that I made to the Ct200u-ex. There's a Trail Force One playlist that includes them all.
Here's the link to the rear rack installation video :
ua-cam.com/video/oSGtzVBLXIs/v-deo.html
I bought the rack directly from Coleman. I included the link in the description.
A predator 224cc will give you much more torque, and also I would go with a slightly smaller gear up front. It sounds like your clutch almost never fully engages.
Thanks for watching SBF. I since put a smaller nine tooth gear in the front in another video. It definitely helps. I want to do another video where I experiment with the engagement springs on the torque converter. I agree that it doesn't seem like it is fully engaging.
Looks like the air pressure is too high also, I could see you bouncing over the logs. Get the air down like you would on a fat bike and you'll make it up those climbs even easier
Thanks! I had dropped the pressure a little, and it definitely helped. I had to order special valve stem extensions because of the way that their rims were designed.
You should weld thoze nutz on the back side and not worry about getting a wrench back there
I agree, but not everyone watching this video has a welder! Thanks for watching! Wait til you see it run with the CVT on it! 😁
You should try a 72 tooth sprocket. I bet it would climb that hill no problem.
After that video I added a torque converter and it climbed pretty good. I still might go from the 11 tooth front sprocket to either a 10 or a 9 tooth. Thanks for watching!
@@themostlymikeshow2582 Which torque converter kit did you install. I am buying a used Coleman CT 200U EX today and I have already ordered a 72 tooth sprocket but I would like to change to a torque converter too. I will be riding on terrain with lots of hills. Do you think the torque converter setup is more robust/reliable for hills.
@@4150CHF I bought the one from Gopowersports.com which is probably the most expensive out there, but less of a hassle. Have you seen my video showing the installation of the torque converter? I'll put a link underneath this message.
m.ua-cam.com/video/A0hnJXYLZ80/v-deo.html
@@themostlymikeshow2582 Do you have a link for the Go Power Sports torque converter? I will go through your link if you have one set up.
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A torque converter would work.
Thanks for watching. I installed a torque converter in a later video after that one.
@@themostlymikeshow2582 Oh okay. Sounds about right because torque converters make TONS more torque!
@@themostlymikeshow2582 Did you put a racing cam or a straight pipe?
It all helps. I thought that this and a smaller front sprocket actually made a bigger difference, but everything improved it at the sacrifice of top speed.. Especially the smaller front sprocket.
@@fish_R_stinky69 No, I hadn't gotten into the motor much. I have a header pipe to put on, but haven't messed with it yet.
You just need a torque converter
Thanks for watching! I added a video showing my installation of the torque converter. I am soon going to to further drop the gearing with a 9 tooth sprocket to test it. Not sure if I will like it that low, but it's a cheap experiment.
Get a torque converter. Its worth it. It will make it up that hill easily
Thanks for watching Maurice. I eventually did put a torque converter on. The video is in my Trail Force One playlist along with many other upgrades. Spoiler alert... it did make it up the hill after installing it.
@@themostlymikeshow2582 And if you want more torque move the spring in the driven pulley to the rear hole
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Ha ha Thanks so much for watching these videos, and commenting. I'm glad that you're getting some laughs! That really helps the algorithm show them to more people.
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Thanks Rokhound! Good luck! 🍀