I saw Tom Brislin playing for Camel and he was phenomenal! The whole audience were certified Pete Bardens fans, but Tom convinced us he could play the parts
I just saw Jon Anderson and the band geeks live a few days ago. They were amazing, they are better than the official Yes. And I’m amazed how Jon still has his voice even though he’s almost 80
I've seen them twice in Chicago. In june and last year. As close to the wonderful 70s sound as anybody will ever get. Anderson will be 80 next month and his voice is hoding up very well. Band Geeks are incredible musicians
I loved the 80's/90's Yes sound. Trevor Rabin is so multi-talented and infused Yes with such glorious sounds. I wouldn't even have gotten into their earlier music if not for this era and therefore would still rank 90125 and Talk above most 70's albums. Also, Steve's not a bad singer, he just didn't really work at it that much. His sound is key in many of those earlier harmonies. I'm sure Chris would've told him not to sing if he were that bad.
The line up changes allowed the band to continue to exist. No line up changes, means no Steve Howe, no Rick Wakeman. Line up changes would have resulted in them no longer existing before they produced their best material.
3 Things I Hate (but I love Yes) 1. Steve Howe's Guitar Tone between 1972 - 1978. Awful. Powerful enough to do dental surgery when he plays lap steel. 2. Jon Anderson singing one note. I love the early Jon Anderson. The bluesy, jazzy, melody driven Anderson. The Welcome to My Cult Anderson bores me. 3. Rick Wakeman's choice in Synthesiser Sounds. He will automatically date your song to being ten years behind everyone else.
@@mcouzijn I'm baffled about his comment too. He must have started listening to Yes in 1985. Maybe a tiny little bit behind ELP and King Crimson but 10 years is way off the mark.
@@mcouzijn Not yet, it's only Sunday. I'll add to the Jon Anderson thing though. He left Yes to do ABWH, saying how much this version of Yes he was in was not living up to his ideals, his tastes, his path. It wasn't true to him, whether it was a more commercial path, or whatever made him depart it. He joined Cinema into Yes late in the game. The album was almost in the bag when Squire contacted Anderson and mended fences. In between the release of 90125 and Big Generator, Jon Anderson capitalised as much as he could on that success 90125 achieved for them. He released how many solo albums in this period? Did he not back a whole solo album with the musicians from TOTO and release one of the most commercial sounding albums he's ever done? Meanwhile, Trevor Rabin is working non-stop on piecing together what became Big Generator. That dude dedicated himself to getting that thing done. I see no efforts on Anderson's part to address what his problems were with NEW Yes, and OLD Yes and integrating those two worlds to everyone's satisfaction. He's doing everything BUT dedicate himself to this NEW Yes, and getting what OLD he wanted in there. He's too busy recording another solo album. They began the recordings in 1985. 2 years later, Rabin's still engineering and mixing it. Anderson's got another solo album out. And you can see ABWH is just an ego trip for Anderson, because UNION says so. The songs ABWH came up with for a second album, shows how flight of fancy Anderson can be.
You forgot Squire’s stage outfits, esp 90125 1st tour (woolly mammoth, to hide weight gain), and The Ladder (white clamdiggers with possibly no underwear). I didn’t see the white thigh high boots from Tales live haha.
The thing that I hate about U2 is that I was required to play guitar and bass in that way when I played on the worship teams at my last church. There's no expression in that "style," and no room for any. I endured this torture for three years and quit in disgust. It warms the cockles of my heart when The Edge is interviewed in guitar magazines and the readers bombard the mag with complaints because he has never learnt to play and has nothing to pass on to any of us who can. In general, though, I think that people are just tired of Bono's self-righteous pomposity.
Take away David's dual delays and there's nothing left. That being said, you don't have to play incredibly complex solos at blinding speed to be a great guitarist. I'll take Joe Walsh over Joe Satriani any day of the week.
I saw Yes on their 35th Anniversary Tour and something surprising happened: Steve Howe played a solo and he WALKED from stage left to center stage WHILE PLAYING, and then he walked back from stage center to stage left while he CONTINUED playing...! I was FLOORED! Amazing! And it took them 35 years to achieve that!
What I dislike is what the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame did to Yes. Chris Squire was the only member in ALL the various lineups and he died in 2015. So naturally the RnR HF inducts Yes in 2017. And then the inductees acted like children during the ceremony. I guess this comment is more about the RnR HF than Yes, who I saw 4 times in concert
Much as I loved Alan White, he was only performing minimally in the last few years. Jay Schellen has brough excitement back to the rhythm section. Geoff Downes on the other hand, I am not why they favored him over Oliver Wakeman, who was doing a great job in his short time with the band. Maybe it was just a generational comfort level.
Back in 1976 I first heard the live version of "Heart of the sunrise" from the "Yessongs" triple album. That did it for me. Later, I had the great fortune to see them live in Stockholm 2004 (Jon, Alan, Steve, Chris and Rick) so at least now I can die happy.
Yes was not the only band having a break at the hight of their popularity. I also think of VdGG and ELP. A lot of missed opportunities. There’s also a swedish prog band called Trettioåriga Kriget (the thirty years war) who released two great albums -74 and -75. They lost their record deal and their third album came out -78. We all know what happened to prog rock 1978. Lost opportunities. If they were allowed to keep their record deal they could have released two more albums before prog went down. But the good news is that they came back 2004 and finished songs they had on tapes for an album they were prevented to make -76 and released the songs on a new album. A shame that the songs were not released-76 but it’s good to have them now all these years later.
Those dreadful, abysmal, horrible albums of the 1980s...and Steve Howe pretending he's in a band called Yes when Jon Anderson isn't the singer...and...well, that'll do for now.
@@DEAKY0921 Yes but I can understand people who first got into the band in the 70s not liking them since they were so different. I assume he didn't mean Drama though since that's still very much a prog album.
I actually discovered U2 and YES at the same time in the Spring of 1983 when "War" came out and my friends at school loaned me their Yes albums because I loved Rush and Styx. Fell in love with both bands, but U2 I don't listen to much any more. They kind of lost me in the early 90s, especially when they dissed their first three albums on their tours. Oh, and "Trip Through Your Wires" is the best song on 'The Joshua Tree'. No one can convince me otherwise.
10) I cried for days, too. First celebrity death to do that to me. 9) The bickering is one thing, but it's the passive aggressiveness that has been the killer. 8) Yeah, kinda agree 7) That "Union" L.A. show disaster preventing Peter Banks going on stage was actually Brian Lane's doing, due to PB suing Yes at the time. It just got blamed on Steve Howe. I don't believe SH said "no" to letting PB come on stage at all. 6) Keys material on vinyl NOW!! DEMAND IT!! 5) Fully agree. Having been close to Alan White's camp during the 2005-2008 time frame I can say that Yes were tired of waiting for Jon and were pretty hurt by his 50% demand. 4) I don't mind that solo album break, but sure wish we got more Yes with Patrick Moraz. 3) I love "Big Generator", but fully agree with you. YES were poised to totally dominate the 80s, but they always get in their own way. 2) Disagree. I don't mind the variations. 1) I am one of the few who actually like Steve Howe's voice. My biggest beef with YES is that they always ritard the climax after the 'Masters' section of "Awaken" to try to make it sound big. The reason it works so well on the studio version is because it's done in tempo!! Just one reason why the Jon/Todmobile performance is the best live version out there, because they don't slow it down!
Good point about Awaken. And Yes music, in general, works best at the correct tempo. Or slightly faster!!! The slower tempos was strangling the life out of the music. The one thing Chris was wrong about.
*What* is really *true* about Jon's alleged "50% demand"? I don't know. Do you *know*? What evidence do you have to corroborate such excessive *demand*??
@@mcouzijn I was closely connected to the inner circle of one of the band members at the time, and that is how I found out personally. But, Steve Howe has made this public in his recent autobiography.
Let’s think together. All artists, including rock bands, have their heyday where they peak. Yes, his heyday was in the early 70s. Those albums were incredible put they’ll never have that kind of output again.
As you said, a good number more than ten, but my added are: -Of course, no Chris Squire=no Yes. Period. Maaaayybeee if Anderson rejoined, but Chris was the one consistent member throughout the history. (I think in past tense now.) -Very sad Anderson Rabin Wakeman didn’t get some of the original material out that was apparently being worked on. Saw that tour twice and it was exciting and indeed as close as possible to Yes continued past Chris along with AWBH. -90125 is one of top 5 and completely agree they blew it not getting something better and sooner out (Big Generator is disappointing) Talk was a good atonement. Love your vids. Long live Yes.
Scott! First of all, much respect for coming out and saying things we as Yes fanatics have bit our lips about for decades. Thank you for your service. I agree with all your points except two. 1) this is a minor quibble, but your assertion that the keyboard players don't play the correct parts... isn't there a kind of license to make the parts their own? For example, there have only been 3 guitarists, but they have never been known to play each part their predecessor played verbatim. For one, I always found it exciting when Rabin added his own distinctive flair to Howe's parts. I mean hell, Howe still plays around with his own parts (that sounds naughty, not intended). If it weren't for Moraz tweaking Wakeman's solo lines, I think the Relayer-era Yes might have been treading water. I think it's exciting when a musician puts his own stamp on something. My two cents. 2) You had me up to Big Generator. While I agree it's not as good an album as 90125, and it's overbaked and underdone somehow (exhaustively documented), I think there are some fine, even excellent, songs on the record. The 10-year-old in me can't let it go. I'll acknowledge you probably have a few years on me. But side 2 of Big Generator is "Quality Yes", and Kaye's Hammond is my evidence. That's where I came in, so I'm biased of course. Delays and production snafus notwithstanding, I think it's a fine successor to 90125. But it's all subjective. Agreements: KeysStudio (I mean, still?) The f***ing of Banks (the fact that he and Kaye are not in the RRHOF is baffling, and I blame Howe), and literally everything else you said. Oh, and I fucking love that shirt. Was that show-bought, or did you get that after the fact? Love your show, keep it up!
I agree with all 10. Great points on all. I could add about 20 more myself. Chris abandoned his CTTE and Fragile bass sound. Steve smoked too much hash. Chris and Alan drank too much. Jon lost his edge.
Agree with most, but YES with Steve Howe sounds like a whole different and better band compared with Banks. Besides SH is more dynamic and technically superior to PB
In recent interviews Steve has talked quite warmly about Peter, his guitar style and his overall contribution to the band. However, I don't think anyone speaks warmly about Steve as a lead vocalist (I can accept his backing vocal contributions, though).
I Love the first six albums maybe seven but after that they pretty much lost me (they produced some good songs but not albums) not that I didn't try or listen to their later stuff but one cannot force yourself to like something for me they never did replicate their earlier material which was truly outstanding...so I guess THAT's what I HATE about YES.
People say Yes is not Yes without Jon Anderson, then state how much they hate the Trevor Rabin era, with Jon Anderson, and it's not Yes. So, what is it?
I agree with everything you said, Scot. I would also add Yes management to that list. So many missed opportunities. If they had been promoted better, especially during the seventies, I feel they may have been as big or bigger than Led Zeppelin, in terms of popularity.
I had a roommate who would sing along with them. He didnt like that i couldnt play old yes on the keyboard . It made me hang out in other places when he'd be on a Yes rant.
He only wants to work with certain people at his age. It’s his prerogative. But if only he and Jon Anderson could find a path forward- even temporarily.
Two of my friends and I got SH Beginnings the same day. Next day at school the only thing we could talk about...how "terrible" the vocals were. (Along with how we didn't like the classical thing.) It's something I've long since gotten over. Can't even hear it anymore. (It is what it is.) Endearing in its way. Easily my favorite of his down to this day.
Loved the video! Yes are also one of my favourite bands, but that doesn't mean some of their albums are ones that I'm more than happy to pass over or that the band politics really can feel like a downer from enjoying the band we could have (The new Anderson album is fantastic!)
I grew up listening to Yes. Yes was and is still my favorite band of all times (Anderson, Squire, Howe, Wakeman, and White). The band went through quite a few member changes, but the day when Trevor Rabin came on board was the day I pretty much stopped listening. I don’t think he should have been at the induction ceremony hall of fame either. The way he pranced around on stage as if he was one of the founding members and the lead guitarist just annoyed me. Yes, I do agree with you. They should have at the very least mentioned Peter Banks.
Hey Scot! The more i wrote the more i got pissed off! So many more than 10. I will only give 1. Hated all the best of albums and cds released with the same 10 songs. Never anything new. Whether by the band or bootlegs, how many do we need? But diehards and collectors bought them just to add to the collection! R.I.P. Chris and Alan. You guys are SO missed it hurts!!!!⚘️⚘️⚘️🕊🕊🕊👍☮️👑🐍🙏😎
The other loss when we lost Squire was the VERY important backing vocals... It's the one thing the modern albums and Jon's True is desperately missing... Also, Yeah, I really wish Keystudios were re-released on CD and Vinyl and officially considered an album.
One complaint I do have about Yes is they have a much bigger discography than necessary. I think they should’ve hung it up a long time ago. I’d say maybe after Big Generator or something. The recent Yes albums are just kinda eh…
Fish Out of Water shows how much Chris’ vocals were a big part of the Yes sound. I definitely miss the combo of Chris and Alan. I loved the way they sounded together on Drama.
I thought it was a Masterpiece w/o him. They recaptured some of the old magic on that album Give Love Each Day is up there with almost anything they ever did.Brilliant Album.
Agreed on all fronts (especially the brilliant observation concerning keyboard parts: the keyboard players themselves don't play their own parts right!) EXCEPT for one thing: Big Generator, which features _The Last Two Truly Great Yes Songs Ever,_ namely "Final Eyes" and "I'm Running." Listen to it again some time!
I am a fanatical Yes fan. And I gotta say, I agree with you on all your points, but I half agree about point 7. Peter Banks obviously was an important factor, and I agree, he was a founding member and should have been put into the R&R Hall of Fame with them, but Yes really became Yes with the addition of Howe and then of course Rick Wakeman. But otherwise, I agree. Great vid.
Your #1 is also my #1! As a kid, I couldn't figure out why their vocal harmonies sounded so good and so bad at the same time. Then I heard Beginnings and it all made sense.
I really liked your sports analogy about the lineup changes in the band and how it’s like one’s favorite sports team trading players, etc. It’s so true. It’s tragic about all the bickering egos. While Jon Anderson’s voice is a big part of Yes, it’s a shame he thought he was so much more important than the rest of the band.
My favourite band ever, too, but I have to agree with every point you make here. When I first heard Steve Howe sing lead on The Steve Howe Album, I was shocked to the very core. Matter of fact I still have never got over it. 🙂
Always felt sorry for Peter Banks and the way they sacked him efter having found a better guy down the road; rock bands are not supposed to fire members for no other reasons than drugs and cheating on other members favorite groupies. Also think there should be a vinyl edition of Keys, maybe a double for next RSD; and also make a double album of Fly From Here and Return Trip combined while you're at it - would be a nice way to bring Benoit David back into the canon. But it probably won't happen.
Good list. I’ve always groused about differences between live Yes keyboards vs studio. HOWEVER my personal No. 1 YES complaint is Jon Anderson’s incomprehensible New Age style bafflegab LYRICS. (Your top 10 list delivery style got me riled up,too. Hence the caps lock. It’s all your fault) ‘Dawn of light lying between the silence and sold sources, chased amid fusions of wonder’ ‘total mass retain’ WTF ? I couldn’t get enough of “Heart of the Sunrise” after I first heard it, know all the lyrics. I have no idea what they mean, but they were presented to me with matchless engineering of musicianship that made my knees weak and my heart soar
Yes is still one of my favorite bands up until Going For The One. I still have all of their previous CDs and nothing thereafter. I always hated when bands had constant lineup changes. It worked for Yes to a point but became too much. Thank you for your perspective
100% correct. The covers for "Big Generator" and "Talk" are abysmal. Some of the worst album covers of ANY band EVER. And for music that talks about love, spirituality, and our place in the universe, their egos became too big for ANY of that to be taken seriously when they sang about it. One of the greatest lyric lines about musical hypocrisy ever written said, "The Beatles said 'all you need is love,' and then they broke up..." A similar tale could be said of Yes.
I think a lot of it comes down to his playing style. In his solos, he rarely uses vibrato, and his bends are often off-pitch. I bet if Jeff Beck played through the same rig, everyone would be asking how he gets such an amazing tone.
@@TheBatlash I always thought his tone was way too bright, which is probably part of why I have a hearing aid.Those Fenders were killer. Howe's probably half deaf himself
One of your best videos yet Scot. It takes thought and courage to pick on your favorite band. YES was instrumental in developing my PROG passion in the early 70s but more than any other band they have beat me out of money for poor product from both YES and solo releases. But of course, I keep coming back and buying whatever comes out. Every remaster or box set. Thankfully Anderson knocked it out of the park with “True”. And the “Talk” remaster was a game changer for me for that album.
🤣 you can tell you’re a proper fan We all have strong opinions good and bad when it comes to our favourite group 👍🏻 I agree about the 80s as well I do love drama though But big generator needs to be discontinued 😂
Hate is a very strong word!?! There is absolutely nothing to “hate” for me when it comes to Yes and its members over the years. For me it’s all Love. There are other things to hate but Yes is not one of them.
I'm so glad your mention of TOM BRISLIN - one if not THE best keyboard player in YES. Lovely guy, groovy, excellent...and Patrick Moraz! He plays WITH the others and not ABOVE the other like Rick. Ok, legendary player, etc etc - but he just keep soloing even when Steve its soloing! I just want to go to one alternative univers whit albums whit TOM or PATRICK...Love you
Great video Scot. Very original. One point made my think more though. It's the solo albums era. I never thought about it because I loved all the solo albums but you are damn right !!! How great it would have been for the band to work together with all the incredible songs at their disposal. Simply mind blowing.
My biggest beef with Yes is that they *should of retired* right after their *1978's Tomato or 1980's Drama album.* Since then it's been nothing but the *"DRAMA"* within this band. Never know what members of Yes are touring. Yes has fallen so far that tribute bands of Yes sounds better than the official Yes band touring in 2024.
@@TheProgCornerThere has been drama in the band since day one! When they saw KC play and Jon said we need to practice more, the dictatorship started!!!👍😎
@@jeffschielka7845 That dictatorship, or I call it Art Direction, created their greatest music! Bill and Steve even today still have the greatest respect for Jon's imagination & creativity
These were all pretty much spot on! I saw an interview with Trevor Rabin talking about how Peter Banks was ready to play with the band during a 'Union' show and Steve vetoed it. As far as I know none of the other members objected. Shame on Steve. And yes Steve sings way too much on recent Yes albums. His voice drags down 'Mirror To The Sky' when Davidson or Sherwood should have been singing those parts. 'Tormato' is not only the worst Yes album cover but one of the worst covers of all time. The 'Going For The One' cover works but they should have called Roger Dean after that. There are some UA-cam videos that compile an imaginary 1976 Yes album, which is as close as we'll get to a great lost Yes album from that era.
I am quite fond of the cover design/artwork for the Tormato album. The band being willing to depict themselves getting pummeled by tomatoes (presumably thrown by music critics) is the closest they ever came to exuding a punk rock attitude.
Give Patrick Moraz some love. 👍🏻
Relayer is an epic and my favorite Yes album!
They never should have let him go.
Give some love to Igor Khoroshev
Moraz was let go by the Moody Blues and tried to sue them for that. Didn't get anywhere what he was asking for.
The trail was on Court TV.
Peter Banks is a very cool player; nothing wrong with his Yes albums...and I love Flash!!!
Patrick Moraz was just killer on RELAYER!
“Drama” is indeed a great album 😉
I love it so much!!!
One of my top 5
You must be American...
@@geej12 What the hell does that have to do with it?
@@jpirard Our tastes differ...
Today’s Yes is nothing more than a Steve Howe backup band. No investment in the music.
Yes! Absolutely. How can you have a band called 'Yes' if Jon Anderson isn't in it?
Yep, it's time for the current Yes to call it a day. Compare Mirror to the Sky with Jon and the Geek's True. 😞
Two fine records!!!!
@@UNIT-h2d Same for Chris Squire.
@@UNIT-h2d They did it with Drama and that was quite an album.
Tom Brislin should have been kept, can sing well and write and plays amazingly.
Absolutely!!!!
@@TheProgCornerKansas is so lucky to have Tom!!!👍🎹😎
I saw Tom Brislin playing for Camel and he was phenomenal! The whole audience were certified Pete Bardens fans, but Tom convinced us he could play the parts
He didn't want to. HE TOLD ME.
@@jpirard I guess Kansas is an easier environment to work in.
Tom Brislin is a master keyboardist.
He really is!!!
Indeed, I saw him with Camel, Renaissance and Kansas and he is truly outstanding!
I just saw Jon Anderson and the band geeks live a few days ago. They were amazing, they are better than the official Yes. And I’m amazed how Jon still has his voice even though he’s almost 80
He’s a freak of nature!!!❤️❤️
I've seen them twice in Chicago. In june and last year. As close to the wonderful 70s sound as anybody will ever get. Anderson will be 80 next month and his voice is hoding up very well. Band Geeks are incredible musicians
I loved the 80's/90's Yes sound. Trevor Rabin is so multi-talented and infused Yes with such glorious sounds. I wouldn't even have gotten into their earlier music if not for this era and therefore would still rank 90125 and Talk above most 70's albums. Also, Steve's not a bad singer, he just didn't really work at it that much. His sound is key in many of those earlier harmonies. I'm sure Chris would've told him not to sing if he were that bad.
90125 is amazing. And did you like Rabin’s most recent album, Rio? That record slays.
@@TheProgCorner RIO RULES.
The line up changes allowed the band to continue to exist. No line up changes, means no Steve Howe, no Rick Wakeman. Line up changes would have resulted in them no longer existing before they produced their best material.
3 Things I Hate (but I love Yes)
1. Steve Howe's Guitar Tone between 1972 - 1978. Awful. Powerful enough to do dental surgery when he plays lap steel.
2. Jon Anderson singing one note. I love the early Jon Anderson. The bluesy, jazzy, melody driven Anderson. The Welcome to My Cult Anderson bores me.
3. Rick Wakeman's choice in Synthesiser Sounds. He will automatically date your song to being ten years behind everyone else.
Of course. You will also declare that the Earth is flat.
@@mcouzijn I'm baffled about his comment too. He must have started listening to Yes in 1985. Maybe a tiny little bit behind ELP and King Crimson but 10 years is way off the mark.
Wakeman after PolyMoog? Absolutely.
the singer sucks, its just a high pitched speaking on a tone, like supertramps' singer.
@@mcouzijn Not yet, it's only Sunday.
I'll add to the Jon Anderson thing though.
He left Yes to do ABWH, saying how much this version of Yes he was in was not living up to his ideals, his tastes, his path. It wasn't true to him, whether it was a more commercial path, or whatever made him depart it.
He joined Cinema into Yes late in the game. The album was almost in the bag when Squire contacted Anderson and mended fences.
In between the release of 90125 and Big Generator, Jon Anderson capitalised as much as he could on that success 90125 achieved for them. He released how many solo albums in this period? Did he not back a whole solo album with the musicians from TOTO and release one of the most commercial sounding albums he's ever done?
Meanwhile, Trevor Rabin is working non-stop on piecing together what became Big Generator. That dude dedicated himself to getting that thing done. I see no efforts on Anderson's part to address what his problems were with NEW Yes, and OLD Yes and integrating those two worlds to everyone's satisfaction. He's doing everything BUT dedicate himself to this NEW Yes, and getting what OLD he wanted in there. He's too busy recording another solo album. They began the recordings in 1985. 2 years later, Rabin's still engineering and mixing it. Anderson's got another solo album out.
And you can see ABWH is just an ego trip for Anderson, because UNION says so. The songs ABWH came up with for a second album, shows how flight of fancy Anderson can be.
You forgot Squire’s stage outfits, esp 90125 1st tour (woolly mammoth, to hide weight gain), and The Ladder (white clamdiggers with possibly no underwear). I didn’t see the white thigh high boots from Tales live haha.
He needed a professional stylist…
Chris always had a curious way with fashion. Look to the early Yes days video and those god awful boots he's wearing.
Hilarious. Clamdiggers! Yes some of Squire's outfits where pretty funny.
The thing that I hate about U2 is that I was required to play guitar and bass in that way when I played on the worship teams at my last church. There's no expression in that "style," and no room for any. I endured this torture for three years and quit in disgust.
It warms the cockles of my heart when The Edge is interviewed in guitar magazines and the readers bombard the mag with complaints because he has never learnt to play and has nothing to pass on to any of us who can.
In general, though, I think that people are just tired of Bono's self-righteous pomposity.
I’m sure that’s most of it…
@@TheProgCorner U2 is fantastic.
@@kratino Fantastically overrated.
Take away David's dual delays and there's nothing left. That being said, you don't have to play incredibly complex solos at blinding speed to be a great guitarist. I'll take Joe Walsh over Joe Satriani any day of the week.
@@johnbgood52 me too.
I saw Yes on their 35th Anniversary Tour and something surprising happened: Steve Howe played a solo and he WALKED from stage left to center stage WHILE PLAYING, and then he walked back from stage center to stage left while he CONTINUED playing...! I was FLOORED! Amazing! And it took them 35 years to achieve that!
That’s crazy!!!!
I just saw YES on the 2024 Deep Purple tour, and Howe played "Clap" while walking around with his guitar.
@@genericusername1365 he's getting better at that...!
What I dislike is what the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame did to Yes. Chris Squire was the only member in ALL the various lineups and he died in 2015. So naturally the RnR HF inducts Yes in 2017. And then the inductees acted like children during the ceremony. I guess this comment is more about the RnR HF than Yes, who I saw 4 times in concert
But Wakeman was hilarious!!!
@@TheProgCorner Best induction speech ever, and I've seen most of 'em.
Much as I loved Alan White, he was only performing minimally in the last few years. Jay Schellen has brough excitement back to the rhythm section. Geoff Downes on the other hand, I am not why they favored him over Oliver Wakeman, who was doing a great job in his short time with the band. Maybe it was just a generational comfort level.
Back in 1976 I first heard the live version of "Heart of the sunrise" from the "Yessongs" triple album. That did it for me. Later, I had the great fortune to see them live in Stockholm 2004 (Jon, Alan, Steve, Chris and Rick) so at least now I can die happy.
Yes!!!!!
Yes was not the only band having a break at the hight of their popularity. I also think of VdGG and ELP. A lot of missed opportunities.
There’s also a swedish prog band called Trettioåriga Kriget (the thirty years war) who released two great albums -74 and -75. They lost their record deal and their third album came out -78. We all know what happened to prog rock 1978. Lost opportunities.
If they were allowed to keep their record deal they could have released two more albums before prog went down.
But the good news is that they came back 2004 and finished songs they had on tapes for an album they were prevented to make -76 and released the songs on a new album. A shame that the songs were not released-76 but it’s good to have them now all these years later.
I love Trettioåriga Kriget!!!!!!
The Moody Blues, as well.
Those dreadful, abysmal, horrible albums of the 1980s...and Steve Howe pretending he's in a band called Yes when Jon Anderson isn't the singer...and...well, that'll do for now.
Drama/90125/Big Generator are great albums, and Yes is still Yes no matter who is playing/singing
my personal opinion
@@DEAKY0921 Yes but I can understand people who first got into the band in the 70s not liking them since they were so different. I assume he didn't mean Drama though since that's still very much a prog album.
Jon Anderson wasn’t the singer in Drama 😂
People that love Prog Yes may not have liked these albums but they were good albums compared to 90% of other bands out there.
Drama > 90125 > Big Generator
The thing I hate the most about YES is that my wife doesn't say it enough.
Good one!!!
Fluctuating line ups is a feature of so many great prog rock bands, which is a kind of proggy thing in itself !
I actually discovered U2 and YES at the same time in the Spring of 1983 when "War" came out and my friends at school loaned me their Yes albums because I loved Rush and Styx. Fell in love with both bands, but U2 I don't listen to much any more. They kind of lost me in the early 90s, especially when they dissed their first three albums on their tours.
Oh, and "Trip Through Your Wires" is the best song on 'The Joshua Tree'. No one can convince me otherwise.
I saw them in 2000 and they played one old song…
It’s amazing how Roger Dean went from super cool, every band wanted one of his covers to the opposite in such a short time.
Being identified with Yes and progressive Rock was not allowed for a long time in the industry.
I hear you Scot.. some of this stuff drives me mad! 😎
How have you been!!!! Good to see you’re posting new content again!!!!
Thanks Scot.. yeah been fired up again. Would live to pick your brains and just catch up for a good old chat. 😎
10) I cried for days, too. First celebrity death to do that to me.
9) The bickering is one thing, but it's the passive aggressiveness that has been the killer.
8) Yeah, kinda agree
7) That "Union" L.A. show disaster preventing Peter Banks going on stage was actually Brian Lane's doing, due to PB suing Yes at the time. It just got blamed on Steve Howe. I don't believe SH said "no" to letting PB come on stage at all.
6) Keys material on vinyl NOW!! DEMAND IT!!
5) Fully agree. Having been close to Alan White's camp during the 2005-2008 time frame I can say that Yes were tired of waiting for Jon and were pretty hurt by his 50% demand.
4) I don't mind that solo album break, but sure wish we got more Yes with Patrick Moraz.
3) I love "Big Generator", but fully agree with you. YES were poised to totally dominate the 80s, but they always get in their own way.
2) Disagree. I don't mind the variations.
1) I am one of the few who actually like Steve Howe's voice.
My biggest beef with YES is that they always ritard the climax after the 'Masters' section of "Awaken" to try to make it sound big. The reason it works so well on the studio version is because it's done in tempo!! Just one reason why the Jon/Todmobile performance is the best live version out there, because they don't slow it down!
I mean they added slight ritards to most of the live performances of stuff.
And you and I specifically. I get your point tho.
Good point about Awaken. And Yes music, in general, works best at the correct tempo. Or slightly faster!!! The slower tempos was strangling the life out of the music. The one thing Chris was wrong about.
*What* is really *true* about Jon's alleged "50% demand"?
I don't know. Do you *know*?
What evidence do you have to corroborate such excessive *demand*??
@@mcouzijn I was closely connected to the inner circle of one of the band members at the time, and that is how I found out personally. But, Steve Howe has made this public in his recent autobiography.
It’s been pretty well documented by others - including Steve himself.
Let’s think together. All artists, including rock bands, have their heyday where they peak. Yes, his heyday was in the early 70s. Those albums were incredible put they’ll never have that kind of output again.
As you said, a good number more than ten, but my added are:
-Of course, no Chris Squire=no Yes. Period. Maaaayybeee if Anderson rejoined, but Chris was the one consistent member throughout the history. (I think in past tense now.)
-Very sad Anderson Rabin Wakeman didn’t get some of the original material out that was apparently being worked on. Saw that tour twice and it was exciting and indeed as close as possible to Yes continued past Chris along with AWBH.
-90125 is one of top 5 and completely agree they blew it not getting something better and sooner out (Big Generator is disappointing) Talk was a good atonement.
Love your vids. Long live Yes.
Apparently a lot of the proposed ARW material ended up on The Red Planet…
@@TheProgCorner Shame on me for not checking that out yet. I suppose Wakeman was unhappy again 🙄
Howe’s voice 😂😂😂
Scott! First of all, much respect for coming out and saying things we as Yes fanatics have bit our lips about for decades. Thank you for your service. I agree with all your points except two. 1) this is a minor quibble, but your assertion that the keyboard players don't play the correct parts... isn't there a kind of license to make the parts their own? For example, there have only been 3 guitarists, but they have never been known to play each part their predecessor played verbatim. For one, I always found it exciting when Rabin added his own distinctive flair to Howe's parts. I mean hell, Howe still plays around with his own parts (that sounds naughty, not intended). If it weren't for Moraz tweaking Wakeman's solo lines, I think the Relayer-era Yes might have been treading water. I think it's exciting when a musician puts his own stamp on something. My two cents. 2) You had me up to Big Generator. While I agree it's not as good an album as 90125, and it's overbaked and underdone somehow (exhaustively documented), I think there are some fine, even excellent, songs on the record. The 10-year-old in me can't let it go. I'll acknowledge you probably have a few years on me. But side 2 of Big Generator is "Quality Yes", and Kaye's Hammond is my evidence. That's where I came in, so I'm biased of course. Delays and production snafus notwithstanding, I think it's a fine successor to 90125. But it's all subjective. Agreements: KeysStudio (I mean, still?) The f***ing of Banks (the fact that he and Kaye are not in the RRHOF is baffling, and I blame Howe), and literally everything else you said. Oh, and I fucking love that shirt. Was that show-bought, or did you get that after the fact? Love your show, keep it up!
Thank you!!!! And the tee shirt is a replica I bought online. I used to have the same one back in’77!!!!
I agree with all 10. Great points on all. I could add about 20 more myself. Chris abandoned his CTTE and Fragile bass sound. Steve smoked too much hash. Chris and Alan drank too much. Jon lost his edge.
Yep. All true.
Agree with most, but YES with Steve Howe sounds like a whole different and better band compared with Banks. Besides SH is more dynamic and technically superior to PB
All true.
In recent interviews Steve has talked quite warmly about Peter, his guitar style and his overall contribution to the band. However, I don't think anyone speaks warmly about Steve as a lead vocalist (I can accept his backing vocal contributions, though).
@@ambadad But Steve never really had anything nice to say about Pete when he was alive, which I think is shameful.
I Love the first six albums maybe seven but after that they pretty much lost me (they produced some good songs but not albums) not that I didn't try or listen to their later stuff but one cannot force yourself to like something for me they never did replicate their earlier material which was truly outstanding...so I guess THAT's what I HATE about YES.
Sounds about right.
People say Yes is not Yes without Jon Anderson, then state how much they hate the Trevor Rabin era, with Jon Anderson, and it's not Yes.
So, what is it?
I far prefer Trevor's voice to Jon's.
Exactly.
I like all the versions of YES. I prefer the "classic" lineup, but the others are enjoyable as well.
I agree with everything you said, Scot. I would also add Yes management to that list. So many missed opportunities. If they had been promoted better, especially during the seventies, I feel they may have been as big or bigger than Led Zeppelin, in terms of popularity.
Absolutely!!!!!👍
Ten things? How many albums did they make after Tormato?
Ha ha!!!
I had a roommate who would sing along with them. He didnt like that i couldnt play old yes on the keyboard . It made me hang out in other places when he'd be on a Yes rant.
Understandable!!!!
Re: Squire's passing. Me too. Howe has turned Yes into his back-up band.
He only wants to work with certain people at his age. It’s his prerogative. But if only he and Jon Anderson could find a path forward- even temporarily.
@@TheProgCorner that will never happen. Jon would likely take immediate control of the band. Pretty sure Steve likes having that control himself.
@@benjaminrupe5930 You are (sadly) correct.
_"Australia"_ is like that scene in Jaws where Quint scratches the chalkboard.
Exactly like that.
Two of my friends and I got SH Beginnings the same day. Next day at school the only thing we could talk about...how "terrible" the vocals were. (Along with how we didn't like the classical thing.)
It's something I've long since gotten over. Can't even hear it anymore. (It is what it is.) Endearing in its way.
Easily my favorite of his down to this day.
Terrible song
Awesome rant, and every one of them makes 100% sense
Great video! So true on the Roger Dean comment. Nodding "Yes" to #3! Cheers
Loved the video! Yes are also one of my favourite bands, but that doesn't mean some of their albums are ones that I'm more than happy to pass over or that the band politics really can feel like a downer from enjoying the band we could have (The new Anderson album is fantastic!)
True is outstanding!!!!!
I grew up listening to Yes. Yes was and is still my favorite band of all times (Anderson, Squire, Howe, Wakeman, and White). The band went through quite a few member changes, but the day when Trevor Rabin came on board was the day I pretty much stopped listening. I don’t think he should have been at the induction ceremony hall of fame either. The way he pranced around on stage as if he was one of the founding members and the lead guitarist just annoyed me. Yes, I do agree with you. They should have at the very least mentioned Peter Banks.
I disagree about the current rhythm section being plodding. I actually think they're getting tighter and tighter.
Mirror To The Sky is certainly encouraging!!!!!
Moraz saved the Moody Blues with Long Distance Voyager. Octave fell flat.
I never met Chris, but I also cried when he died. I was at lunch & just lost it. Maybe cos a huge piece of my youth was gone…
Me too!!!!
Hey Scot! The more i wrote the more i got pissed off! So many more than 10. I will only give 1. Hated all the best of albums and cds released with the same 10 songs. Never anything new. Whether by the band or bootlegs, how many do we need? But diehards and collectors bought them just to add to the collection! R.I.P. Chris and Alan. You guys are SO missed it hurts!!!!⚘️⚘️⚘️🕊🕊🕊👍☮️👑🐍🙏😎
I could have also said:
TOO MANY LIVE ALBUMS!!!!
The other loss when we lost Squire was the VERY important backing vocals... It's the one thing the modern albums and Jon's True is desperately missing...
Also, Yeah, I really wish Keystudios were re-released on CD and Vinyl and officially considered an album.
Jon and Chris singing together…
@@TheProgCorner Exactly... 🤩
@@LockeTheCole Did Billy’s voice drop sometime around 10 yrs ago? He seemed to sing more BVs than Chris when he was in Yes initially.
@@bertbecker7532 I think there's a story about him straining his voice at some point and it never being the same again.
Jon is Yes Saw Him in August 2024 Phoenix. Jon Anderson and the band geeks, PURE YES. JON IS WAY WORTH MORE THAN 50%.
The Band Geeks rule.
Definitely now, but when Chris and Alan were still kickin', nah.
Wakeman reckoned that Yes was whoever turned up for rehearsals. Agree about Peter Banks.
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One complaint I do have about Yes is they have a much bigger discography than necessary. I think they should’ve hung it up a long time ago. I’d say maybe after Big Generator or something. The recent Yes albums are just kinda eh…
Some of the later albums haven’t been great but Keystudio, Magnification and The Ladder are AMAZING!!!
Between the two of them, Yes and Jethro Tull have changed members more than every other band in the world put together. 😁
Fish Out of Water shows how much Chris’ vocals were a big part of the Yes sound. I definitely miss the combo of Chris and Alan. I loved the way they sounded together on Drama.
Drama was peak Squire/White!!!
Yes are like Monet, you have to stand back a ways to fully appreciate it
Indeed!!!!
Exactly. Every album has a different feel to it. I think the change-ups were pretty interesting.
Such a miss not to have Wakeman on Magnification. With him it would have been a masterpiece!
No doubt!!! It is already a great album but yeah…
I thought it was a Masterpiece w/o him. They recaptured some of the old magic on that album Give Love Each Day is up there with almost anything they ever did.Brilliant Album.
Agreed on all fronts (especially the brilliant observation concerning keyboard parts: the keyboard players themselves don't play their own parts right!) EXCEPT for one thing: Big Generator, which features _The Last Two Truly Great Yes Songs Ever,_ namely "Final Eyes" and "I'm Running." Listen to it again some time!
Totally agree! 'Final Eyes' and 'I'm Running' are two great Yes songs.
I totally agree with your beef about Jon A wanting 50%. That most definitely is bullshit!
Fish Out Of Water is amazing, though!! 😉
Silently Falling. Oh my!!!
Yep, I'd go along with ALL of this. Deeply frustrating. #11 though, has to be Open Your Eyes. What a stinker. Even the cover says, "Don't buy me!"
Not good.
I am a fanatical Yes fan. And I gotta say, I agree with you on all your points, but I half agree about point 7. Peter Banks obviously was an important factor, and I agree, he was a founding member and should have been put into the R&R Hall of Fame with them, but Yes really became Yes with the addition of Howe and then of course Rick Wakeman. But otherwise, I agree. Great vid.
Howe could play circles around Banks and Yes was looking to conquer the world. Therefore it was the right decision but I still feel badly for Pete!!!
Your #1 is also my #1! As a kid, I couldn't figure out why their vocal harmonies sounded so good and so bad at the same time. Then I heard Beginnings and it all made sense.
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Scot, I'm still larfing
I really liked your sports analogy about the lineup changes in the band and how it’s like one’s favorite sports team trading players, etc. It’s so true. It’s tragic about all the bickering egos. While Jon Anderson’s voice is a big part of Yes, it’s a shame he thought he was so much more important than the rest of the band.
It makes bands like U2, Muse and Radiohead special: same lineup every album. And almost Rush!!!
@@TheProgCorner. Totally!
Dunno if I agree about the solo album era. Great records and I believe they continued to tour.
They did and the Solo Album Tour of 1976 was my first Yes show!!!
I remember reading in Rolling Stone - typical waiting room fare - a story about Chris Squire saying that Chicago belonged in the RR HOF.
And he is right!!!!
They finally got induced in 2016. Hmmmm…at least he lived to see Chicago get in.
My favourite band ever, too, but I have to agree with every point you make here. When I first heard Steve Howe sing lead on The Steve Howe Album, I was shocked to the very core. Matter of fact I still have never got over it. 🙂
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@@TheProgCorner 🤣
Love the 80s stuff, but agree with much of this. But Floyd annoy me much more (and I still love them)
That’s right!!! Real fans see the blemishes too.
@@TheProgCorner Don’t get me started on Genesis 😂
I have an aversion to so many “seasons” and “stories.” “Seasons & Stories” should be a greatest hits album title.
There you go!!!!!!
They didn't replace Bruford with a snappy drummer.
No, they did not. They got a guy who sounded great in bigger venues…
Agreed, still missed the snap. Alan thundered away, but I never saw Bruford era songs played as I would have liked. Ce la vie.
Always felt sorry for Peter Banks and the way they sacked him efter having found a better guy down the road; rock bands are not supposed to fire members for no other reasons than drugs and cheating on other members favorite groupies.
Also think there should be a vinyl edition of Keys, maybe a double for next RSD; and also make a double album of Fly From Here and Return Trip combined while you're at it - would be a nice way to bring Benoit David back into the canon. But it probably won't happen.
I need the original Fly From Here on vinyl. It’s really expensive now…
Jon Anderson and the band geeks ARE YES
Except that it’s a one-off.
Drama was a one off, yet a spectacular Yes album.
Don't juggle sea snakes.
Especially to "Wipeout"
No!!!!!😱🐍
As the immortal Nancy Raygun said... "just say no."
And James Joyce responded - "Nes. Yo..
Peace on earth.
Good list. I’ve always groused about differences between live Yes keyboards vs studio. HOWEVER my personal No. 1 YES complaint is Jon Anderson’s incomprehensible New Age style bafflegab LYRICS. (Your top 10 list delivery style got me riled up,too. Hence the caps lock. It’s all your fault) ‘Dawn of light lying between the silence and sold sources, chased amid fusions of wonder’ ‘total mass retain’ WTF ?
I couldn’t get enough of “Heart of the Sunrise” after I first heard it, know all the lyrics. I have no idea what they mean, but they were presented to me with matchless engineering of musicianship that made my knees weak and my heart soar
Yes is still one of my favorite bands up until Going For The One. I still have all of their previous CDs and nothing thereafter. I always hated when bands had constant lineup changes. It worked for Yes to a point but became too much. Thank you for your perspective
Thank YOU!!!
I've seen YES 36 times from 75 to 2015. First, all things die. Second, all opinions are just like leaving a fart in an elevator ✨️🎶✨️
Indeed. Everyone should have a UA-cam channel.
Agree no Anderson no Yes no disrespect to guys in the latest incarnation ❤❤❤
I love Jon Anderson too but I’ll take whatever Yes music I can get!!!!
That makes two of us bro, I could never stop loving this group!
Never could break free. After all these years…
100% correct. The covers for "Big Generator" and "Talk" are abysmal. Some of the worst album covers of ANY band EVER. And for music that talks about love, spirituality, and our place in the universe, their egos became too big for ANY of that to be taken seriously when they sang about it. One of the greatest lyric lines about musical hypocrisy ever written said, "The Beatles said 'all you need is love,' and then they broke up..." A similar tale could be said of Yes.
The irony!!!!
You are absolute RIGHT man !!! (and I ´ve follow YES from 1972 ), but "OLIAS" is a MASTERWORK over the other solo works from the rest of the band ...
Olias is a Top Ten album for me personally. One of those records I could not live without…
As a Yes fan since Tormato,Your right on the Money!
I started my Yes journey with Tormato, also.
@@wesleyscott3465 Grind to grind to grind.
I couldn’t agree more with you on this, I love Yes but…..😂
Steve Howe's guitar tone! How can he not get it right?!
His dependence on the Line 6 modeling software doesn’t help.
I think a lot of it comes down to his playing style. In his solos, he rarely uses vibrato, and his bends are often off-pitch. I bet if Jeff Beck played through the same rig, everyone would be asking how he gets such an amazing tone.
@@TheBatlash I always thought his tone was way too bright, which is probably part of why I have a hearing aid.Those Fenders were killer. Howe's probably half deaf himself
Big Generator is not terrible. Is it "Close to the Edge" ? No. But , a good album.
Yes never made a bad album. I just get a little carried away sometimes…
@@TheProgCornerLove BG!!👍😎
One of your best videos yet Scot. It takes thought and courage to pick on your favorite band. YES was instrumental in developing my PROG passion in the early 70s but more than any other band they have beat me out of money for poor product from both YES and solo releases. But of course, I keep coming back and buying whatever comes out. Every remaster or box set. Thankfully Anderson knocked it out of the park with “True”. And the “Talk” remaster was a game changer for me for that album.
True was a great album. And we’ve also had Mirror To The Sky, The Red Planet and Rio of late. It’s still a good time to be a Yes fan!!!
loved the vid and maybe love the comments more - ha! great to see all the yesheads are just like me - conflicted, confused, but still not letting go.
That’s right!!!!
🤣 you can tell you’re a proper fan
We all have strong opinions good and bad when it comes to our favourite group
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I agree about the 80s as well I do love drama though
But big generator needs to be discontinued 😂
Yes!!!!!!👍
Totally agree about Howe's singing. I felt the same back then when I heard Australia. What a disaster.
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They didn't fire Benoit, contrary to popular belief. He resigned on his own.
He’s a bit salty about his experience.
Agree 100% about 'Australia' ... Steve should have got Jon or Chris to sing on the album.
Mad respect. There is no one Yes any more than there is one King Crimson.
LOL. I was so upset to see you list things you didn't like about our fav Band! but then...I agreed with every single one!!!! GREAT CALL OUT!
Ha ha!!!! Thank you!!!
Hate is a very strong word!?! There is absolutely nothing to “hate” for me when it comes to Yes and its members over the years. For me it’s all Love. There are other things to hate but Yes is not one of them.
Exellent Scot your right on with all 10
#7, spot on ! Peter Banks had the whole package.
He was awesome!!!
The way Peter Banks was treated was shocking, and those solo albums between 74 and 77 were, as you said, a wasted opportunity.
Peter was apparently difficult to get along with. I remember when he died, nobody would claim his body and I'm not sure anybody ever did.
@@Magnetron33 That is so sad.
I'm so glad your mention of TOM BRISLIN - one if not THE best keyboard player in YES. Lovely guy, groovy, excellent...and Patrick Moraz! He plays WITH the others and not ABOVE the other like Rick. Ok, legendary player, etc etc - but he just keep soloing even when Steve its soloing! I just want to go to one alternative univers whit albums whit TOM or PATRICK...Love you
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Eddie has said none of the guys in Yes could sing when they first worked with him.
Magnification and The Ladder.
No!!!!
I love the Alan White solo album Ramshackled. Great video 👍
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Great video Scot. Very original. One point made my think more though. It's the solo albums era. I never thought about it because I loved all the solo albums but you are damn right !!! How great it would have been for the band to work together with all the incredible songs at their disposal. Simply mind blowing.
And I really think the entire trajectory changes and maybe they enter the upper tier of public consciousness that Queen, Zeppelin and Floyd belong to…
My biggest beef with Yes is that they *should of retired* right after their *1978's Tomato or 1980's Drama album.* Since then it's been nothing but the *"DRAMA"* within this band. Never know what members of Yes are touring. Yes has fallen so far that tribute bands of Yes sounds better than the official Yes band touring in 2024.
I’m glad they continued just for Keystudio, The Ladder and Magnification!!!!
@@TheProgCornerThere has been drama in the band since day one! When they saw KC play and Jon said we need to practice more, the dictatorship started!!!👍😎
@@jeffschielka7845 That dictatorship, or I call it Art Direction, created their greatest music! Bill and Steve even today still have the greatest respect for Jon's imagination & creativity
@@wendellwiggins2900 Definitely. I agree 100%!!!!👍😎
@@wendellwiggins2900 Jon is my hero!!!👍😎
I love their debut album and Peter Banks was a sort of Prog's Pete Townsend, nervous and brilliant.
These were all pretty much spot on! I saw an interview with Trevor Rabin talking about how Peter Banks was ready to play with the band during a 'Union' show and Steve vetoed it. As far as I know none of the other members objected. Shame on Steve. And yes Steve sings way too much on recent Yes albums. His voice drags down 'Mirror To The Sky' when Davidson or Sherwood should have been singing those parts. 'Tormato' is not only the worst Yes album cover but one of the worst covers of all time. The 'Going For The One' cover works but they should have called Roger Dean after that. There are some UA-cam videos that compile an imaginary 1976 Yes album, which is as close as we'll get to a great lost Yes album from that era.
I heard both Steve and Tony Kaye were against Peter being allowed on stage. Terrible.
@@TheProgCorner Tony Kaye too? So sad.
I am quite fond of the cover design/artwork for the Tormato album. The band being willing to depict themselves getting pummeled by tomatoes (presumably thrown by music critics) is the closest they ever came to exuding a punk rock attitude.
You MUST see the Yes hall of fame clip, for the Rick Jokes ...
So funny!!!!!! He is a riot.