How to Retrofit F80 M3 Paddle Shifters on an F30 Steering Wheel (2013 BMW 335 m sport demo car)
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2017
- Hey Everyone,
Today, we’re going to show you how to retrofit F80 M3 Paddle Shifters on your F30. This is the same on the 335, 328, 320 and many other BMWs. Sorry for the blurry shots, my auto-focus decided to have a mind of its own today ;)
After you do the retrofit, code this: FEM_Body ... 3190 --Paddles_Verbaut --aktiv
Parts needed:
Wires with Female Pins: amzn.to/2wBVkF1
Wire Harness: Part Number:
F80 M3 Paddle Shifter Part Number: 7847610014501
New Steering Wheel Back Plate: 32307848268
Some helpful tools:
Irwin T20 Big: amzn.to/2xdT4FG
Thumb Ratchet: amzn.to/2xibwPl
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It continues to boggle my mind that you only have 8,900 subscribers. Your BMW videos are the best by a mile on YT. You're to the point, no click bait, no BS. Please continue doing what you're doing. You are a huge help to the 2, 3, and 4 series crowd. Thank you.
Thanks! I know click bait really helps, but I HATE click bait... spread the word 😀
Yes!
45k subs now😎
72K subs now!
110K subs now!
Woooooow I don't have an F30 , but the F30 community should feel really lucky to see your DIY's videos, they are amazing, well explained step by step... Great job!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼... Thanks!!!
Awesome, thanks!
I hope he keeps his f30 forever because I just picked up one this year and I'm just getting started 😀
Yesterday I did the same on my F20 using this guide, works 100%
Nice!
Which year is your car mate?
116i ?
118d ?
What car do you have?
Is yours lci/face-lift model?
Sweet I was wondering if it was the same!
Man, YOU are best!!
When I had my e46, I used to see 50skids videos for all of my works. I am considering to follow you for my f30 the same way. We would be useless if you guys wouldn't be here. Hats off to you 🙂.
Thanks for the guide! Had real difficult getting the holes drilled at the right angle so painfully had to enlarge/re-drill a bit but once it was all screwed in it was fine
Just installed them on my F30 320d m-sport using this video as a guide, thank you for taking the time.
Only issue I had was where you say your using a 5/16 drill bit which equates to 8mm for us europeans, I was somewhat confused as that would have made the hole too big so I end up drilling a 3.5mm hole which is about 1/8th inch, that worked perfectly.
Thanks again
Hi,
thank you very much for the video. Perfectly explained from beginning to end. Today I upgraded the paddles on the F31. Worked well thanks to your help.
After some thought i decided to bite the bullet and get all the things needed for this install. Took me a good 2-3 hours since my car was already pre-wired. Great video, easy to follow and the wiring was all correct. Thanks, Kies!
What's the easy way to find out if your car is pre-wired?
Man, you explained everything tons better than every other video that I´ve ever watched. Not even a single mistake, all the steps covered... I don´t even have my 420 yet but I´m gonna subscribe to your channel ;) Awesome work ;)
Just finished retrofitting my f30 wheel and installed paddle shifters. I purchased the paddles, wiring harness, backplate, and 2 paddle shifter screws all separately. I found that the 5/16th hole that he said to drill was too big for the factory screws that are said to fit the paddles. I had to add 4 washers to each screw to have them sit correctly. This process was extremely time consuming, but this video helped a ton and I love the outcome. Another big issue I ran into was having a heated steering wheel, with this type of function my wheel had an extra box in the actual wheel so when my airbag wouldn't fit on correctly with the new wires. I had to cut some of the tape around the wiring harness and shove wires into deep crevices to have the airbag sit correctly. After a total of 5-7 hours, I got everything sorted out and using bimmer code to code in the paddles was a breeze. I am so happy with the paddles and encourage anyone to try this out, just make sure you go slow and make sure you have everything fit correctly.
I’m mid installation, but this is exactly what I’m facing. There’s a curved box which sits on the bottom right of the steering wheel. The black connector which is attached to the paddle shifter connector (i.e. the shorter one which goes to the left paddle shifter) must attach to a connector which comes out of the right side of that box. Miles away. I’m just going to extend this with a jumper lead.
Do you have the links por the parts ?
Another great vid but about 1/4 into the vid I realized I would not trust myself to do this on my own so I would have to have someone like you do it. But awesome job as always
Thanks!
Thanks!
i wanna do this so bad now on my 2015 335I, thanks for the amazing video bro. love the content keep up the great work.
Do it! And thanks for your support!
Man did you born in a BMW. You know a lot of stuff.
I really admire what you do.
Continu man
Thanks! I was born in a hospital, much more sanitary ;) Thank you though, I appreciate it. A lot of what I do is just learning about it and jumping in and figuring it out.
I'm almost for certain you are the first youtuber to do an actual video on how to do this. There are forms around that I've read up on, but couldn't find any videos. Great work! I'm going to use this guide as reference for when I do this mod.
Thanks! Yea, I couldn't find one, so I thought it could help!
Kies Motorsports No problem! Also, I shared your video to BMW car groups I'm in, should help you out in terms of viewers and followers.
Sounds good, we appreciate it very much when people share, like and comment!
One more thing... Do you happen to know where to find a backing plate for a stock F30 328i wheel? I dont have the more round one like you do, I have the blocky rectangular one? I'll have to buy an entire new M Sport wheel with paddles pre installed if I cant find a backing plate.
I don't have access to it right now, but try realoem for the part number
Fantastic! Great video. I know this will help alot of people on the forums. I did this to my 2013 328i m-sport. Made a huge difference in control and feel while driving but also the transmission is alot more aggressive when coded for paddles. It is pretty silly that BMW left this as an option for m-sport trim cars..!
Go ahead and share everywhere you think it would be helpful, if you think it could help! 😀
Superb video yet again, thanks
i dont even have a bmw but love to watch this satisfying install videos
😀
Another brilliant video!
Thanks for the guide. I'm thinking about buying an f30
Brilliant all videos super informative, appreciate all the help. Thank you!!
Thanks for your great work and video.You are so helpful.
I was afraid to do this by myself, but after seeing this vid, I will definitely do it. Question: Regular F30 M sports wheel paddle shifter is the same to install? Drilling the holes into the wheel is the most crucial part of my question.
Hello Brian, your videos are just great and very helpful. Any chance you might have one to change the m sport steering wheel trim. Just the aluminum central part to replace it with a carbon fibre piece. Thanks
Can you tell me what kind of screw you use for the paddles?
Did the retrofit yesterday!
FYI: 5/16 drill bit ≈8 mm is too big, the OEM 14x4mm screw heads are too small which calls for a washer.. On the other side I drilled a pilot hole (5-6mm), and used the 5/16 bit going about halfway :)
Hello, first of all great work.
I have a few questions:
Is it the same procedure with a F36?
If a cable is present in pin 5, then is at the steering wheel automatically a cable in pin 3?
Must be coded in the end?
Thank you in advance.
Great video.
Where did you get parts:
M3 Paddle Shifter and steering wheel black plate? How much does it cost?
Amazing work !
Really awesome Bryan! Good job
Thanks!
Awesome man you the best on bmw I’ve seen great stuff keep it going
Thanks John!
Great video! Can I use the same procedure for the F10 5 series?
When you add peddles, the minimum you can do is actually code Sport Auto so you get faster transmissions. On my F30 I initially had only Sport steering wheel without paddles, so I bought M3 one and regular peddles and mounted them on M3 wheel (I actually think standard peddles look better than M3 ones).
Works perfect on my 120i, thanks man
Amazing how you makes look simple.. need to replace mine thats peeling the metal look off.. Also, weird that they sell 335 on usa without paddles..
Looking to upgrade my 1 series wheel mainly to have cruise control but also love the sport steering wheel.
My car is manual, but if I bought the paddle version would it be a problem? Id remove the paddles as I obviously can’t use them! Just wondered if the paddle version would confuse the car!!
Very nice video! Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the video. It helps me a lot 👌👌
Hey Brian, can you tell me where I can purchase the two little screws that go into the back of the paddle shifters as well as the size of them? I ordered the shifters and I am installing an M3 steering wheel on my 335i, but just realized that I don't have the two screws to hold the shifters on.
Thanks so much!
is there any way to know if my steering wheel is already pre-wired for the paddle shifter without opening up to find the harness?
Does the wiring part work the same for the older steering wheel?
Hey Bryan
Did all the work on my 2013 f30 335i. Rewired the battery, turned on the car, and now my wipers just wipes all the time!
Haven`t coded yey, but that is not the reason right? By the way ur videos are really interesting!
can you know if the car is already pre-wired? thanks ore do you need to look to the wires thanks
Kies! I dont see in the description the cable that connects both paddles! awesome video!
Hi Brian, amazing video!! I don't know if you have an idea about BMW 318D (not M version): do you think M3 paddle shifters are suitable for my 318d too? Thank You!! Angelo from Italy!
Hello really interested in doing this. Only issue is I’m from the uk and we have right hand drive vehicles. I’m guessing the harness is in the same place on rhd just easier to route the cable? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the video! where can i get the Wire Harness please? Part Number is not in the description!
Would running the signal wire be the same on the f33, same number pin holes etc ?
Hello,
I have a BMW x1 F48 18i 2018 model with automatic transmission. The steering wheel that currently has is not the M.
My question, in case you know, is if I can fit an M steering wheel with paddles so that I can also the change the gears from the steering wheel?
Thanks in advance for your response.
Nikos
I'm shocked the msport package didnt already have them on there! Nice job!
Thanks! Yea it had everything but them!
I have a F30 328d with M package. The paddle shifters are the smaller ones and not enticing to use, I like the longer ones. Is there a way to just swap the metal shifters alone and not worry about the electronics ?
Is this also possible on the F10, I have the same wheel, transmission etc but i guess the wiring harness etc would be different ?
always wanted to do this to mine .... does this retrofit work on the heated steering wheel ?
Great video as usual. Wish you had at the end of video a clip of you driving the car and shifting with the paddles.
Sounds like another video :)
Sounds like another video :)
Where can I the paddle shifters, the harness and back of the steering wheel.
Also can you make a video on how to change the steering wheel from a standard bmw wheel to the m series steering wheel as I have a 328, with normal steering.!!
Great video most helpful easy fix.
Thanks!
Hey man can you do a video of how to change or where to change the breaks of a F30 m breaks?
Hello mate, i know its long time video but does the wire is standar for all F SERIES? Like aftertaking the steering out, wire #3 and on the other side is #5? Its standard for all F series? I bought entire steering wheel and want to make sure before. Installing
Hey I just did this but now I’m getting a lane assist malfunction. I have not coded the paddles yet. Will the coding fix my lane assist or do I need a different wire harness? It’s strange because I left my original harness connected as well to the lane assist module but just left two connections unconnected because my new harness had those connections. Something is off. The new harness didn’t have anything for the lane assist. I’m also working with the non m, it’s the sport wheel.
Really love ur in-depth videos despite the fact i dont have a BM yet. All F30 year on year update prior to LCI dont have appealing interior and hence planning on getting F30 LCI to make up for all the expensive customization.
Possible to do a comparison LCI and your retro fit F30..??
Thanks! Yea, we can look into it, but we have a lot of videos that would happen first, so it would be in a few months
What are you using to code the bmw to get the shifters to work? Would the bimmercode app work or do you need something else?
Do you know if the F80 paddles themselves can be used with OEM F30 plastic bracket and electronics? most people are selling the paddles relatively cheap, as opposed to over $500 for a whole new set of paddles
Hi - thanks for your great video. I used it to great effect to remove my wheel and replace one of my broken buttons. However, when I replaced everything my rear view camera is no longer recognising the movement of my steering wheel, so the guide lines on the screen aren't moving as I turn the wheel. Any idea what I've done - and maybe how to fix it? Thanks!
Ok - so 1 day later and a 40 mile drive later, it's now working. Clearly it needed to self calibrate. Phew!
Hi,
Nice work! Very helpful. Could you please create a video regarding the necessary coding changes that you did for the puddles? I am also thinking of buying them and the process to install them looks pretty straight forward but I am not familiar with the coding part. I know that I will need to purchase a OBDB cable but I dont know which software to download and how to operate it.
Thanks in advance
Thanks! I have the coding parameters in the description, but we don't make coding videos.. I can get you set up with a coder if you need
Damn bro I have account on kies and is the best for bmw lovers, and the you tube channel is the best too.
Hello I did everything as the video and antive with bimmer but do not work paddles, look for another mode and add 2TB (replacing 205), does nor work help 🙏 F20
Great video! I have the same steering wheel on my 228i with M Sport Package. Any idea if I can follow the same steps for retrofitting the paddles?
Hi, I'd imagine it's the same, but I would double check the wiring
thanks for sharing ,may I know what is the pin number for 2013 X3 F25? Thanks
Hello Brian! So I wanna buy a steering wheel that has paddle shifters. Basically what I wanna know is... if I can try to code it without checking for the wire existance. I guess if there is no wires it will still let me code it but it will not work. I do not wanna scratch the trims especially the steering column ones. Is that any other way to check for the wire presence by any chance ? ! Thank you ! :)
Hi Would running the signal wire be the same on the f54 mini cooper clubman ,same number pin holes etc ?
Bryan, did you previously worked as a professional technician for bmw ? ...Amazing knowledge !
Hi! If i change to my F30 2.0d the steering wheel with M model i need coding? Will come airbag fail after ?
Hey, do i have to strap the wire at every f30? Mine is from 12/17 and don't have paddles.
Thank you
What kind of screw do you use that goes into the paddle shifters? I bought a set of these on ebay and they didn't come with anything; and the holes are just non-threaded black plastic.
I don't see the programming part of the paddle shifter install. In the video you say you'll link it in the description below.
Great video!!
Thanks!
What color should the wire from fem to slz be? White/blue?
Hi, I have a f45,, will it be the same as f30 with the pin nr.5 that i need to chek?
I want to buy a streeing with paddle shifters can the F30 streeing works on the F10 will it fit?
Great video Bryan, glad you bought that car cause I have been doing all the latest upgrades myself, thanks for all your help. By any chance do you know if this can be done with the non m sport steering wheel and which part numbers those would be
You can do it with either wheel, it's just a different back plate
Kies Motorsports ohh I see thanks, will search for that part then
my Msport steering wheel has heating and lane departure vibration. will paddles work on my wheel?
I've been waiting for this vid since I subscribed! Where did you purchase the new trim with cutouts on backside of wheel? Do you have a video out or planned on coding?
Nice! I think ebay to be honest
If I get the regular paddles would I have to drill the holes too?
Excellent video thanks. I want to do the same to my 2011 x3 f25 30d is msport with sports auto 8 spd. Will the wiring looms be the same name locations etc, I'm uk right hand side don't know if that affects the location of the modules? I also have the older style string wheel, in sure i saw someone years ago that you can cut out the area for the paddle shift, but can't find it now! Thanks Jules
Thanks! I haven't done it, so I'd have to look into it more
Where can I buy the wire to connect the paddle shift as you showed in the video?
Is it possible to make this wire?, I have been looking for it in Amazon and AliExpress but I haven't found it yet.
VIDEO IDEA: not sure if its possible but i really want a hud in my f30 340i it didnt come optioned in my car and im curious if there is a kit out there for the oem hud that comes from bmw and how it is installed.
Ya Buddy , same here to have hud installed?
Hey man, nice video. I asked to the BMW dealer to install my paddles but they didn't want it to do it.
Do you know where can i take my car for the installation? I live in Wisconsin. Thank you!
Great video! Any idea how to remove the cable that connects the lower steering column cowling? It doesn't seem to want to just pull out, seems clipped in somehow.
I still have the repair manual for the F20, it doesn't say anything other than to "unlock" the plug connection for the emergency starting aerial, though it doesn't mention how one achieves this.
In case anyone is interested, I found a PDF for the paddle shifter mod, and it helpfully says that "it is easier to remove the antenna from the shroud than pull the connector!" So I gave it another another go, and lo and behold, if you shove your finger under the aerial housing and pull with a bit of force it just pops out! (If only I'd found this when I was trying to replace the shroud...)
Hey Bryan, just wondering if you have any plans of doing the LCI tail light retrofit, been waiting for a good video on them to pop up on UA-cam! Thanks
I'll have to check it out 😀
Nice videos. BTW can you tell if it's possible to swap the iDrive display from the no touch screen to the touch screen one. I'd like to know if that's any way to do this for my 2017 M240i xDrive. So it's a F22. I'll appreciate your input. Thanks, Ted
Thanks! No, not yet
Hey, looking for some advice! Im planning on doing this steering wheel upgrade to my 1 series as I like the look and want to have cruise (i know I need cruise coding). Most f30 steering wheels seem to have paddles and my car is a manual, I know the paddles wont work which is fine (ill remove them most likely) but will have the paddle version confused the car? Will I HAVE to remove the paddles not to confuse the car?
Nah, if it's the paddle version, just don't plug that in :)
Hi first of all, thank you for all your videos are like a bible for me. i only have 1 question... in order to see if my car is pre-wired can i do the opposite? i mean set apart the clock spring cover and unplug the plug behind the clock spring and check if pin number 3 is wired? if is yes it should go along the car up to the big plug ( pin no 5) right? thank you
Great, thanks! You can check either location to be able to tell
Great video. Did you change the resistors inside paddles before retrofit?
Did u? I recently purchased m3 paddles from a f80 and for some odd reason shifting down paddle shifts up and the right shift up paddle does nothing. Bummed out might have to buy original f30 paddle shifters as the m3 are not functioning correctly 😢
Hey! Just started watching your videos. I really enjoy them and your tips are really good. Could this conversion also work on the F30 320d Diesel and also on the F11/10 520d Diesel. I am from europe and we mostly drive diesels here. Thanks!
Yes, absolutely for the F30! Not sure about the 520..
Where can one find of those precut backing plate with the precut holes?
Hey Brian, a question for you, I have paddle shifters - I assume that I won't need to go through all of the prep work and I can just swap out my stock f30 paddles with the f80's paddles? Thanks
No, it's much easier to swap paddles
Any plans for making a video how to do this with the normal sport leather steering wheel with the regular paddle shifters for a F30 LCI?
I can see if we can do that..
You have link for coding crusie control function after retrofit F30 M sport steering wheel on non-cruise control button steering wheel
Nice video guide, can you please tell us the ref code for the backplate of the steering? I'm having trouble finding it on the internet
Hi, try this: 32307848268
Is it possible to have it pre-wired already in a 328 too?