They got your mom locked up in a psych ward, dude... Unless this is a different timeline, in that case, I've said too much. Just keep an eye on your mom.
"You're a professional enemy and everyone you meet is a liar." What an insightful way to put it. I actually studied to become a police officer once, then, when I started to learn about all the tension and stress it entails, I changed my mind.
Yeah,I'm going to take some of their conversation from this interview and use it for dialogue for characters discussing inept corrupt police officers in a comic book I'm going to be doing.It's just such great conversation and good dialogue. Joe doesn't seem mind it when people use things he's said and quote him from the podcast and he even told one animal biologist that he could use something he said on the podcast whenever he talks to people about crocodiles,so I feel like that's different from plagiarism and also for other lines that I'm going to be using from things that people have said in interviews and even posts on UA-cam,I'm getting their permission to use the words and I'll even be citing my sources. I think Joe and Rob Zombie are so right about cops.They have such a difficult job.They're overworked,underpaid and they need better training-in every aspect-I think that every cop should know how to fight,that should be mandatory.I also think that there should be more stringent screening in place,I think that every cop should know and understand the law,they don't need to be a lawyer or a scholar on law but if you're enforcing it,you should understand it. I think cops need more training with their guns,they should also know about things like breath control when it comes to using guns,tactics like cover and move and in addition to that,every cop should know ''Verbal Judo''-they need to know how to communicate well with people from different backgrounds and walks of life and they need to know how to read people and how to deescalate a situation so that it doesn't have to accelerate immediately to them going to their gun-and a lot of cops don't have those skills and training that I was talking about and we see what the end result can usually turn out to be.Physical fitness is something else that should be mandatory for cops,I've seen some overweight cops to the point that it's like you can't even believe what you're seeing. I can't imagine wanting to be a cop.I could never do it and even Special Forces guys like Jocko Willink and Tim Kennedy have said that they could never do the job of a police officer .Obviously,law enforcement has a big problem in America right now.
Do fire instead. It has its moments, but people appreciate your work, you get to actually help people, and you get to work in a team, and you don’t ruin lives throwing guys in jail and stealing peoples’ money and impounding their property and you’re dont tase people and shoot people and search their shit and violate their rights.
@UCfQWESNM-5CNJd6yEl2vt0w sounds like you are the pussy who is jealous of someone who has the health conscience to go TRT at his age. I have money he'd whoop that ass.
I'll never forget 2014 Rob was playing Aftershock in Sacramento and some rent a cop security guard was hassling a guy over smoking a joint. Zombie stopped the show and said he'd pack up if they didn't leave dude alone for smoking. Mad respect for that Rob
Rob's no dope fan. He's had plenty of people ask him if he's into it but he always turns that stuff down. Still, the fact that he was still willing to stick up for a fan is cool of him.
There’s a bunch of stories like that w/ bands and artists stopping shows cuz fans and/ or security guards decide to rough ppl up and muscle them around or...throw things onstage and all kinds of crazy stuff. So I’m glad rob zombie did that. We need to see more of that
That’s crazy, he mentions the lead singer of Reagan Youth Dave Rubenstein. That dude had one dark life. He killed himself in ‘93 after his girlfriend was murdered by a serial killer then his mother died in car accident.
Another thing you got the realize is that Joe says its a small amount but hes missing the point.... The small amount dont get held accountable, the police union defends them always no matter what and they always get off from any trouble Paid leave and then back on the job
@@turkeytrailhoneybeefarmgeo6292 Borring??? Are you kidding me? He will be the subject of debate for a long time to come. A very inteligent guy, and dispite what he had done... He was a very intriguing and likable man. Just because you dont like/understand him doesnt mean he wouldnt make a great film. Aslong as its directed by Rob zombie it will work. The Ted bundy film was shite and could have done with a Zob Zombie touch.
As a retired cop I really enjoyed this discussion. You both are correct in your perspectives. Being a cop can be really satisfying - putting a case together honestly that sends a molester away. However, all the stuff you see and SMELL. Yes PTSD abounds. I now do pre-employment backgrounds. This is a critical area where we need much more training and money do to a better job. I could go on and on, but thank you for your straight forward show. Paul
You should watch the original version of Bad Lieutenant starring Harvey Kietel. Good flick and close to what you may be picturing, minus Rob Zombie of course. Don't watch that shitty remake with Nicholas Cage. *cringe*
I was just a correctional officer a few years, and the amount of trust I lost in people after that was huge. It's still amazing how someone can cry and seem so sincere and you know that they need help, right until you find out every word out of their mouth was a lie. On the other hand, some of the people I worked with treated the inmates like shit, and it didn't matter what I said to them or the higher-ups, it was just pushed under the rug. There's horrible folks on both sides and those are the ones that are lifted up as examples of all.
@@spikeobama5572 isa was trying to justify goof behavior by pigs, blaming humanity for their behavior when pigs themselves are the biggest perpetrators of domestic violence.
Times have changed. That old guard from the 70’s and early 80’s were maniacs. It slowly got better but thank God there’s always been good cops. I’ve dealt with both ends of it through work and I’ve worked with some really decent cops.
PATRICK DeCambra “If you think different you’re wrong!” That gives you zero credibility. They’re literally talking about cases where police could openly beat protestors to death with no consequences and you’re saying it’s worse now? It’s worse now than during the civil rights movement? Worse now than during the Vietnam war and Detroit/Newark riots? Worse now that there’s dash cameras and body cameras and people filming them 24/7? Sorry sir but that’s just not the truth.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 did you see what the police did to the protesters in North Dakota during the Pipelines protest. I have seen countless videos of cops shooting unarmed civilians because they're afraid of their own Shadows. Yes I think it's just as bad as the Civil Rights Movement back in the 60s and it still happening today and you think it doesn't. Go fuc yourself
PATRICK DeCambra You are obviously unaware of what happened to blacks and civil rights workers during that era or you wouldn’t be making such ignorant statements. They would’ve gladly taken an arrest or some pepper spray instead of what they got. They were beaten to death, had dogs attack them, sprayed with fire hoses and things that haven’t been legal in decades. You’re wrong and you’re letting your hatred for all police blind you to reality. You can throw out insults and curse but it doesn’t change anything. You’re not right and you’re not applying logic, just angry hateful anti police nonsense. Feel free to continue cursing and name calling. You’ll be talking to yourself
@@patrickdecambra2219 Nah dawg Toby's right, one- calm down and two- it is definitely not worse now than it was during the 60's. I'd argue the opposite, that cops are literally scared to make arrests or use force when necessary because the .01 percent that are bad and had shot unarmed civilians have made national news and spun the narrative out of control to the point where people hate them with intensity. Don't forget six innocent cops go sniped in Dallas because of one bad apple in their city. There is enough liberal pc shit in place to ensure all cops are not only not using excessive force but in many cases scared to do their very job. And no- you have not seen countless videos of cops hunting down unarmed civilians to shoot them for no reason, the ones that make the news are sensationalistic stories. Most cops are good people and working to do good and we are in a better place today than we ever have been in that (and most) respects.
Joe, I'm not sure if you read these or not. But I appreciate the honesty, sincerity, and realistic perceptive view you have on Leo's. If everyone took some lessons on your open minded conversations and views on the world, I'm certain the world would be a better place. You have many fans and I'm just another one.
@@TheIronWristFighters shit doesn't happen more to black people. It's just reported in the stupid ass regressive media more. All the killing that everyone had their fucking panties in a wad over happened to unarmed white men in the same manner. Do some fucking research.
yeah ive experienced bot types of cops..being from a city with over 1 million daily residents, we have great cops because they understand real danger and real thugs..but ive dealt with cops from towns with less than 5000 people in the whole area and some of those cops are the biggest bullies..not a de facto but much more common.
the detectives are some of the worst. I think your perception is Sherlock Holmes type detectives which is not like the street detectives that roll around harassing everyday people into making a case....few months ago someone I know was driving from work and got stopped only to find out his license needed renewal. they let him go,on the condition that by the end of the night he provided them with information that lead them to a gun arrest. he told them he didn't have information like that. they told him again that he had by a certain time that night or that they would come back and find him and arrest him for driving. worst part of this is that they told him that if needed they would stash a gun somewhere so that he could plant it on someone,like maybe leave it in a car and then notify them. imagine your life being destroyed so that these pos officers could get their numbers. happens everyday. and btw,no,he didn't do any of that or help them,but true story indeed...this shit and worse happen everyday,and that's just my city let alone the rest of the country...
@@NittyGritty508 my family member is a detective, started out as a street patrol cop giving tickets and shit then he said fuck this ima solve crimes and he did robbery, homicide.. instead of pulling people over for speeding or arresting people for drugs / going on foot chase / risking their lives
We need to have full castle and stand your ground laws where everyone has firearms. Breed a healthy and safe gun culture. We wouldn't need as many cops.
jacob price I guess when your famous & loaded ,you can do shit like that . Bet the skaters had mad respect for him til then. I would of built then a new park away from homes.
The problem is that Law enforcement involves people and people no matter training are still people. People sometimes suck the same as some McDonald’s employees suck because again they are people.
@@HBC423 Red herring fallacy. I'm talking about YOU. You came in, insulted someone for no reason, then attacked cops. And when your childish antics are responded to, you try to make it about someone else. Congratulations on proving you're a moron.
Theres a book in England called HOODS and some of the police mentioned in there were actively working within a gang within the force and working with other gangs in he Nottingham area
Yeah and there are many different police departments that operate differently across the United States, the police isn’t just this one entity some departments are corrupt as fuck and some are top of the line no bullshit and good honest departments
That’s because blacks are so tribal. Anywhere they go they’ll always divide themselves into smaller and smaller groups. The military had gangs too in the early 2000s when they lowered the requirements to join for the Iraq wars. Mexicans and blacks created actual gangs within the military and it got pretty bad. That’s a pretty interesting thing to watch happen. No matter where they go they’ll never work together as one large group, they’ll divide themselves into little tribes. From dividing platoons to entire countries into tribes. The only time I saw white people create any sort of gang in the military was just as a response to blacks and Mexicans and the white gang wasn’t really even a gang it was just a defense.
The black band across the badge actually represents that the officer is mourning a death of another fallen officer within a 30 day time period. It would be unnecessary to cover their badge number because most departments don’t require you to disclose your badge number.
@bryan joiner Yup photos of cops hiding badges hurts your cop blowing feelings. Zombie quoted The Post and they are shit ass right wingers who said same thing. Guess you are dumb.
James Best.. he is my great uncle adopted out from my mom's side of family.. past away few years ago never met him but great guy from what I've seen and heard..
TheRusseLL oh, Dang. I was just busting your chops because my little brother used to do the same thing to explain our relation to Bruce from the Beach boys (after my grandma remarried.. and divorced), but we never even met the guy lol
I’ve been stopped about 25 times in my life and I’ve had one experience that the cop lectured me. He wasn’t an ass, he just lectured me for about five minutes and let me go without a ticket.
That's why they mentioned perspective. There's people out there who got stopped 25 times and got harrassed every single time. Depends on the neighborhood you live in, the cops themselves, how you look etc. There are a lot of variables at play.
The value of a given salary is relative to the area it is being earned or will be spent. Earning $3k/mo in California is under the poverty line and requires a roommate for a 2 bedroom apartment, but take that same income to a place like Iowa and you're renting a 3 bedroom house. Alone.
I live in Silicon Valley. I know how expensive California is, and I'd still take it over just about anywhere else (as long as you can afford it like I can) A cop making 300 or 400 grand a year, which is what they make in Beverly Hills, is not hurting. Perhaps you were unaware of just how much they make.
@@sayrerowan734 Ummmm. No, they're not. A Captain barely makes $240k/yr and that's gross, meaning BEFORE taxes. After, it's just under $220k/yr. You have to get to the elected officials to even get close to the pay grade you're claiming street cops make. If you're going to make up shit, try not to exaggerate it so much. It only makes you look like a pathetic amateur. www.beverlyhills.org/cbhfiles/storage/files/594617412634836820/AllClassificationsSalaryScheduleEff.07-16-2019.pdf
Actually here is the real story as told by the man himself: search for "Rob Zombie on local skatepark closing". It seems as though the headlines vastly exaggerated it
Yeah well when you spend millions of dollars on a house to enjoy peace and quiet you dont want kids hanging out all night making noise. Not that hard to understand.
Joe makes a good point, in a way policing is like user interface design, it's not really thought about much by the public unless it's an example of them doing it wrong.
I appreciate the kind words towards Police officers. I graduated from the Police Academy this year, and I love interacting with people, and helping how I can. I volunteer usually a couple times a week, and miss wearing the uniform when I dont have it on. It's an honor and privilege to wear the black and Blue, and we're people first, not just cops. Cheers!
Too Canadian, enjoy your police work, stay safe, uphold the law unilaterally, don’t violate people’s rights, and above all please do not turn a blind eye to any misconduct/illegality you may ever witness a fellow officer do...if you see something, say something!
Police hatred is a distinct difference from a humble town that has very little to no crime, but people are getting pulled over for ultra simple driving infractions. And when they are pulled, 4 squads show up..... (seat belt, one day expired tag sticker, exactly 10 over, etc.....) Then there are major city cops dealing with very scary people! This, should change your appreciation for them! They have a very difficult and potentially life altering job. Many cities have very serious crime and killings daily. Having zero respect for those types of police officers that police those areas, is ridiculous. They deal with situations that maybe 70% of the police force in the US will never even face. Hence the shity yearly salary. I wish there was a way to change it by location.
Jus want to send a thank you Joe, from a cop. This is a great clip. And although I agree with Rob, it doesn’t justify the shit that happened back in the day or anything that is unjust in the future. But the idea of perspective is so true.
3 types of cops in the world: 1. Former bully who wants to keep being a bully legally. 2. The former bullied who wants to do the bullying. 3. The guy who wants to actually make a difference. The last group is rare and they get beaten down by the 2 previous groups and eventually quit.
There have been 5 people very close to me who have either been abused or murdered by cops. I have never run into a cop who has been nice to me other than my uncle who was shot on the job so dur, of course there are a few good ones, but they are far and inbetween. Just gotta get that quota
@Liberty or Death lol yeah right like I would be a mindless jarhead. My brother, grandfather and great grandfather were all Army as well. Also police departments prefer infantry over MP's since they are working with a clean slate to train. It's harder to retrain MP's. Ya know what's funny though, I always found it interesting how so many Marines made their way over to the Army after they were discharged.
Alot of big cities warrant that attitude from police ,and then theres the arrogant small town fear me im the be all end all authority ,creating situations out of nothing
Ive worked with police in big cities vs small towns and almost all the dicks are in the big city. In small towns news and gossip travels so fast, you know most people and your name is known by people. In the big city you're one of a thousand badge numbers, can get away with being a dick to whoever you want.
Native New Yorker here, late 40's lived here all my life.. I was around for this riot. This story needs context. Tompkins Square Park was on Ave A and stretched to Ave B. It was a cesspool of homeless drug addicts, heroin mostly. You could walk past people shooting up or shitting out in the open. There were runaways begging in the street and there was a miasma of dirt, chaos and violence that permeated the whole area. The police were there to remove the homeless encampments from the park. The situation had carried on for years. The punks, addicts, drunks, and homeless fought back against the police. They threw urine on them and bags of shit. Eventually the black "mourning bands" that were higher on the shield slid down and the beatdown began. The park got cleaned out by force and children play there now. I like Rob Zombie but the beatings were deserved..His friends easily could have just left the area. It was a long simmering escalation before it got crazy.
I've had better experiences with police since I moved to Oregon from Maryland. A huge part of that is higher standards, better funding and better training, but also things like population density and the low crime makes cops jobs here in Oregon less stressful.
So Philando Castile was looking for trouble when he told the cop he was carrying and that he was reaching into the glovebox to get his license? That was looking for trouble?
Midnight Green have you ever considered that this stuff can happen all the time and you never hear about it because there was no big incident to report about? “Police officer detained for abuse of power” gets a lot less clicks than “cop gets away with abusing minority”. You will never ever be able to completely stomp out people being bad, it can happen anywhere.
Bought myself a cheap used home stereo when I was younger and inside was a cd with a robot space man on it.... come to find out it was an old white zombie cd and i played the living shit out of it! Huge fan of all your work!
I'd imagine most cops are good people. We just don't see the cops who do a great job day in and day out, most of the time we only see examples of bad cops.
wait until they drag you out of car and throw you handcuffs before they even ask you for your id and they can not find the videos what are the odds it has cost me thousands in lawyer fees
"Powerless twats when they were young." Hahahaha! But you're right, Joe, there are always a handful of guys that had their underwear pulled over their head when they were younger. Then they're given a badge and become Billy Badass.
@Invert Your Cross riiiiight, that's not a easy Job at all. Alot of people can't work in Emergency Services especially a Law Enforcement Officer. I'd like to see who you would hire for that job go 2 Days without without Police/Sheriffs Dept, see what kinda madness would ensue. God forbid a traffic light go down, dumbasses can't figure out a flashing traffic light at a intersection and Police have to direct them. Same people that get their house broke into or themselves or Familly member gets Murdered/Raped they want the Police there NOW!....but fuck the Police right? Doing a job that a overwhelming amount of people can't even do let alone do what they do in the environment that they do it in these days for the pay they make.
They do get paid good salries for only having high school diplomas. They want more money, get educated. Most don’t even knownthey law they’re supposed to be enforcing. Anyone can do that job. I did it for 8 years until I found a better job in a field where I can actually help save lives. In the medical field.
They did strike like 2 years ago in protest and crime actually went down so they hurried up and came back and act like the protest didnt happen look it up
Rob Franklin now imagine this bucket of snakes was somehow the only thing keeping society afloat and literally no one was asking you to put your hand in it. That’s cops.
If rob zombie says look it up you look it up... wtf Jamie.
Apparently Jamie only listens to daddy rogan.
@@DapperCracker512 wouldnt you be too if Rob Zombie was in the same room?
Got an A in physics, an F in being joes bitch.
@@HavikXIII No his job is to look shit up and stay quiet. He only doing half that in this clip.
@@DapperCracker512 its a joke, not a dick. Dont take it so hard. Jamie talks all the time, you must be new here
Besides the T-1000, I've had pretty good experiences with the cops I've encountered.
John Connor you got a tough life ahead of you bud
@@phalspar
I know.
They got your mom locked up in a psych ward, dude...
Unless this is a different timeline, in that case, I've said too much.
Just keep an eye on your mom.
I order you not to go. I order you not to go :( :( :(.
Amazing
"You're a professional enemy and everyone you meet is a liar." What an insightful way to put it. I actually studied to become a police officer once, then, when I started to learn about all the tension and stress it entails, I changed my mind.
Yup same. I didn't want that stress.
Good move
Yeah,I'm going to take some of their conversation from this interview and use it for dialogue for characters discussing inept corrupt police officers in a comic book I'm going to be doing.It's just such great conversation and good dialogue.
Joe doesn't seem mind it when people use things he's said and quote him from the podcast and he even told one animal biologist that he could use something he said on the podcast whenever he talks to people about crocodiles,so I feel like that's different from plagiarism and also for other lines that I'm going to be using from things that people have said in interviews and even posts on UA-cam,I'm getting their permission to use the words and I'll even be citing my sources.
I think Joe and Rob Zombie are so right about cops.They have such a difficult job.They're overworked,underpaid and they need better training-in every aspect-I think that every cop should know how to fight,that should be mandatory.I also think that there should be more stringent screening in place,I think that every cop should know and understand the law,they don't need to be a lawyer or a scholar on law but if you're enforcing it,you should understand it.
I think cops need more training with their guns,they should also know about things like breath control when it comes to using guns,tactics like cover and move and in addition to that,every cop should know ''Verbal Judo''-they need to know how to communicate well with people from different backgrounds and walks of life and they need to know how to read people and how to deescalate a situation so that it doesn't have to accelerate immediately to them going to their gun-and a lot of cops don't have those skills and training that I was talking about and we see what the end result can usually turn out to be.Physical fitness is something else that should be mandatory for cops,I've seen some overweight cops to the point that it's like you can't even believe what you're seeing.
I can't imagine wanting to be a cop.I could never do it and even Special Forces guys like Jocko Willink and Tim Kennedy have said that they could never do the job of a police officer .Obviously,law enforcement has a big problem in America right now.
Do fire instead. It has its moments, but people appreciate your work, you get to actually help people, and you get to work in a team, and you don’t ruin lives throwing guys in jail and stealing peoples’ money and impounding their property and you’re dont tase people and shoot people and search their shit and violate their rights.
@UCfQWESNM-5CNJd6yEl2vt0w sounds like you are the pussy who is jealous of someone who has the health conscience to go TRT at his age. I have money he'd whoop that ass.
I'll never forget 2014 Rob was playing Aftershock in Sacramento and some rent a cop security guard was hassling a guy over smoking a joint. Zombie stopped the show and said he'd pack up if they didn't leave dude alone for smoking. Mad respect for that Rob
well i'd be pretty fucking pissed if i paid money for a ticket and they stopped the show cuz some rent a cop was being a dick head. a bit stupid imo
Rob's no dope fan. He's had plenty of people ask him if he's into it but he always turns that stuff down. Still, the fact that he was still willing to stick up for a fan is cool of him.
There’s a bunch of stories like that w/ bands and artists stopping shows cuz fans and/ or security guards decide to rough ppl up and muscle them around or...throw things onstage and all kinds of crazy stuff. So I’m glad rob zombie did that. We need to see more of that
@@JakeTheVoice u call dope weed? Lol...but that is the original term from way back so it aint that bad...
God forbid the rent a cop does exactly what the venue paid him to do...... Dumb ass
"They don't want you around til' they want you around, and then you're not there fast enough" So true
Fuck the police
They're fucking useless
DJ S who is you’re mom going to call when someone trying to kick her door in
@@devinleochko1449 Her pals Smith & Wesson, and I've got my buddies Heckler & Koch.
@@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis I guess you know what thats like
That’s crazy, he mentions the lead singer of Reagan Youth Dave Rubenstein. That dude had one dark life. He killed himself in ‘93 after his girlfriend was murdered by a serial killer then his mother died in car accident.
Another thing you got the realize is that Joe says its a small amount but hes missing the point.... The small amount dont get held accountable, the police union defends them always no matter what and they always get off from any trouble
Paid leave and then back on the job
I actually saw them live at the Olympic Auditorium in L.A. in the early 80's
Johan Smallberries.....family lineage probably cursed....
@Kody Choates how insightful
He was way cooler than the Reagan Youth playing shows today
I used to play good cop bad cop with my uncle when I was younger.
He’s in jail now
Yea whatd u do hide his nightstick for him 😂😂😂😂
Apparently he was the "bad" cop.
What is ironic is that cops and criminals have identical psychological profiles. Chew on that.
@@sourceawry4035 just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners saints.
@@sourceawry4035 you're an idiot.
How many zombies could Rob Zombie rob; if Rob Zombie could rob zombies?
16,838 in 5 minutes.
That's probably not as clever as you think it is
Mick oh come on
I'd watch that movie.
@@mick9708 bahahaha you're just mad you didn't think of it first :).
But what if cops did dmt.
They would shoot unarmed geometric patterns made of love and understanding #shapelivesmatter
@@bradpetty2412 😂lol
They would probably quit the next day or start doing their job right .
They wouldn't be cops
😂😂🤣🤣
Rob zombie should play charles manson and direct it himself.
Thats a good call. Id watch the shit outta that.
nah fuck that, manson was a trash manlet , rob is 5'10"
his wife Sheri could play one of the Manson girls and do that evil little giggle she does!
@@turkeytrailhoneybeefarmgeo6292
Borring??? Are you kidding me? He will be the subject of debate for a long time to come. A very inteligent guy, and dispite what he had done... He was a very intriguing and likable man. Just because you dont like/understand him doesnt mean he wouldnt make a great film.
Aslong as its directed by Rob zombie it will work.
The Ted bundy film was shite and could have done with a Zob Zombie touch.
Nah, Bill Moseley should play Manson.
Rob Zombie: Fantastic musician. Brilliant filmmaker. Great conversationalist. All around cool dude.
nope
He's very interesting and entertaining, and has always been his own brand of genius.
Great businessman too. Very smart guy.
I mean, he's a musician and filmmaker.
@K Korona his music isn't bad but it's been quite a while since he's made a decent movie. Lords of Salem was fucking awful
As a retired cop I really enjoyed this discussion. You both are correct in your perspectives. Being a cop can be really satisfying - putting a case together honestly that sends a molester away. However, all the stuff you see and SMELL. Yes PTSD abounds. I now do pre-employment backgrounds. This is a critical area where we need much more training and money do to a better job. I could go on and on, but thank you for your straight forward show. Paul
The problem is we remember all the bad interactions with cops, but don't think about all the times they passed us by with no problem.
I mentioned this once on reddit and got crucified. People just wanna be outraged and jump on the newest bandwagon of hate.
I remember when I was 17 and thought it was cool to hate cops, thankfully lots of us grow out of that silly shit.
Oh so if a cop "passes" us by and doesn't hassle us, we should consider that a "good" encounter? lol
@@buyerofsorts it wouldn't be an encounter technically.... so theres that.
@@mightylaidlow1 According to Tokes Alotta it is.
Joe: I don't think cops get enough counseling.
2020: Hold my beer.
this video definitely didn’t age well at all
The last 3 podcasts I really enjoyed joe, great job!!!
Joe should have Mike the cop on. I think it could be interesting.
Icey Mike?
Donut Operator
I second Donut Operator!
A rob zombie film about a cop all " Taxi Driver" style would be awesome
You should watch the original version of Bad Lieutenant starring Harvey Kietel. Good flick and close to what you may be picturing, minus Rob Zombie of course. Don't watch that shitty remake with Nicholas Cage. *cringe*
@@nealheadley50it’s not a remake and it fucking rules
I was just a correctional officer a few years, and the amount of trust I lost in people after that was huge. It's still amazing how someone can cry and seem so sincere and you know that they need help, right until you find out every word out of their mouth was a lie. On the other hand, some of the people I worked with treated the inmates like shit, and it didn't matter what I said to them or the higher-ups, it was just pushed under the rug. There's horrible folks on both sides and those are the ones that are lifted up as examples of all.
well said
Wow...much respect for the two of you over this.
the vast majority of interactions are cops breaking up domestic violence stuff. yea, would kind of warp your view of humanity.
Most cops are domestic abusers......
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr and?
@@spikeobama5572 isa was trying to justify goof behavior by pigs, blaming humanity for their behavior when pigs themselves are the biggest perpetrators of domestic violence.
this hits a lil different during these times...
Times have changed. That old guard from the 70’s and early 80’s were maniacs. It slowly got better but thank God there’s always been good cops. I’ve dealt with both ends of it through work and I’ve worked with some really decent cops.
Really watch some cop watch videos on UA-cam. The police have gotten worse since the 70s do you think anything differently you're wrong.
PATRICK DeCambra “If you think different you’re wrong!” That gives you zero credibility. They’re literally talking about cases where police could openly beat protestors to death with no consequences and you’re saying it’s worse now? It’s worse now than during the civil rights movement? Worse now than during the Vietnam war and Detroit/Newark riots? Worse now that there’s dash cameras and body cameras and people filming them 24/7? Sorry sir but that’s just not the truth.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 did you see what the police did to the protesters in North Dakota during the Pipelines protest. I have seen countless videos of cops shooting unarmed civilians because they're afraid of their own Shadows. Yes I think it's just as bad as the Civil Rights Movement back in the 60s and it still happening today and you think it doesn't. Go fuc yourself
PATRICK DeCambra You are obviously unaware of what happened to blacks and civil rights workers during that era or you wouldn’t be making such ignorant statements. They would’ve gladly taken an arrest or some pepper spray instead of what they got. They were beaten to death, had dogs attack them, sprayed with fire hoses and things that haven’t been legal in decades. You’re wrong and you’re letting your hatred for all police blind you to reality. You can throw out insults and curse but it doesn’t change anything. You’re not right and you’re not applying logic, just angry hateful anti police nonsense. Feel free to continue cursing and name calling. You’ll be talking to yourself
@@patrickdecambra2219 Nah dawg Toby's right, one- calm down and two- it is definitely not worse now than it was during the 60's. I'd argue the opposite, that cops are literally scared to make arrests or use force when necessary because the .01 percent that are bad and had shot unarmed civilians have made national news and spun the narrative out of control to the point where people hate them with intensity. Don't forget six innocent cops go sniped in Dallas because of one bad apple in their city.
There is enough liberal pc shit in place to ensure all cops are not only not using excessive force but in many cases scared to do their very job. And no- you have not seen countless videos of cops hunting down unarmed civilians to shoot them for no reason, the ones that make the news are sensationalistic stories. Most cops are good people and working to do good and we are in a better place today than we ever have been in that (and most) respects.
Joe, I'm not sure if you read these or not. But I appreciate the honesty, sincerity, and realistic perceptive view you have on Leo's. If everyone took some lessons on your open minded conversations and views on the world, I'm certain the world would be a better place. You have many fans and I'm just another one.
Why have Perspective when you can just be outraged at some tweet?
Makes sense
@@TheIronWristFighters shit doesn't happen more to black people. It's just reported in the stupid ass regressive media more. All the killing that everyone had their fucking panties in a wad over happened to unarmed white men in the same manner. Do some fucking research.
the Curry its true its crazy how many white people get killed by cops and nobody says anything about
Some shitty 15 second tweet video that shows nothing beforehand and just a tasing.
Go Tigers! Stay off the P&R board on tigernet.com It's infested with fake outrage from reactionary libtards.
yeah ive experienced bot types of cops..being from a city with over 1 million daily residents, we have great cops because they understand real danger and real thugs..but ive dealt with cops from towns with less than 5000 people in the whole area and some of those cops are the biggest bullies..not a de facto but much more common.
@762 Goat
Or maybe everywhere is different. Stop being a dickhead.
Well said! There is WAY more positive than negative when it comes to law enforcement. Officers should get so much more respect than they are given!
"Yeah, officer from overseer, you need a little clarity? Check the similarity!"
KRSONE
WHOOP WHOOP
thats why cops become a detective or somthing... marine patrol, or park ranger / wild life officer
A game warden is a cop who deals with people that always have guns.
the detectives are some of the worst. I think your perception is Sherlock Holmes type detectives which is not like the street detectives that roll around harassing everyday people into making a case....few months ago someone I know was driving from work and got stopped only to find out his license needed renewal. they let him go,on the condition that by the end of the night he provided them with information that lead them to a gun arrest. he told them he didn't have information like that. they told him again that he had by a certain time that night or that they would come back and find him and arrest him for driving. worst part of this is that they told him that if needed they would stash a gun somewhere so that he could plant it on someone,like maybe leave it in a car and then notify them. imagine your life being destroyed so that these pos officers could get their numbers. happens everyday. and btw,no,he didn't do any of that or help them,but true story indeed...this shit and worse happen everyday,and that's just my city let alone the rest of the country...
@@NittyGritty508 my family member is a detective, started out as a street patrol cop giving tickets and shit then he said fuck this ima solve crimes and he did robbery, homicide.. instead of pulling people over for speeding or arresting people for drugs / going on foot chase / risking their lives
"I think I read that in the New York Post." Best answer to cite your sources! :)
Regan youth is such a good band , rip Dave Rubinstein :/
Definitely agree you can’t win as a cop.
Nor should they. Terrorist Cops get Got.
I think the problem is the bad cops are protected by cops that will back them. Or some officers not being accountable for what they did wrong.
So are you trying to defend those bad cops or what?....
Try to explain what you are saying one more time.
Usecriticalthinking and are you implying that it's the "affirmative action" cops who are to blame for all the shit that goes down?
We need to have full castle and stand your ground laws where everyone has firearms. Breed a healthy and safe gun culture. We wouldn't need as many cops.
In other words, there is no such thing as a good cop.
Rob Zombie seems like a good dude just wish his movies seemed good too
I never heard him talk. He sounds like your average high school English teacher
...like a pussy
I like Rob Zombie, but he got a skate park by his house shut down for being too noisy. Facts
jacob price I would too I don’t blame him I don’t want some people worrying about my shit when they should be skating and shit
jacob price that makes me like him more
How about dont move next to a skatepark
Wow really, skate parks arnt loud. If its not at night or early morning, who gives a fck.
jacob price I guess when your famous & loaded ,you can do shit like that . Bet the skaters had mad respect for him til then.
I would of built then a new park away from homes.
Rob Zombie on JRE!? How the hell did I miss this one?
The problem is that Law enforcement involves people and people no matter training are still people. People sometimes suck the same as some McDonald’s employees suck because again they are people.
No the problem is you fucking suck... fuck the police
Kellen Simonton Hit the nail right on the head
@@HBC423
Such a wonderful response. So elegant and well structured with evidence and debate.
@@Soldier4USA2005 evidence? Have you ever interacted with the police or been to jail?
@@HBC423 Red herring fallacy.
I'm talking about YOU. You came in, insulted someone for no reason, then attacked cops.
And when your childish antics are responded to, you try to make it about someone else.
Congratulations on proving you're a moron.
Cops are nicer to Rob because he's rich now
wet hole bingo
(Puts finger on nose)
wet hole, I think you mean because he’s FAMOUS! The rich part, I believe, is quite ancillary.
Most people dont recognize celebrities IRL. You're just being richophobic.
That's the ugly truth.
Paul Harvey put it best in his “Policeman” narration.
Finally someone with a voice said it. Keep Joe and Rob's words in mind the next time you catch the news. Perspective is EVERYTHING
A friend of mine had a cop plant a crack/meth pipe on him during a traffic stop just 2 days ago.. Hes putting a case against the officer.
In Florida ?
Stop lying
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16649034/lapd-police-plant-evidence-ronald-shields
Liberty or Death there are literally plenty of videos online you can watch of cops planting drugs on people
Liberty or Death www.themarshallproject.org/records/4692-cops-planting-evidence
Rob Zombie so intelligent this guys a true chameleon
First time ive heard Rob talk. The hardest singers always seem to be soft spoken
Joe rogan experience is soo popular, Jaime gets up in the morning before joe
There are literal gangs within the police force, cop gangs
Theres a book in England called HOODS and some of the police mentioned in there were actively working within a gang within the force and working with other gangs in he Nottingham area
Yeah and there are many different police departments that operate differently across the United States, the police isn’t just this one entity some departments are corrupt as fuck and some are top of the line no bullshit and good honest departments
From prison channels I always head L.A sheriff's are the worse, why idk. I think sheriffs just take people to and from prison to court Etc .
That’s because blacks are so tribal. Anywhere they go they’ll always divide themselves into smaller and smaller groups. The military had gangs too in the early 2000s when they lowered the requirements to join for the Iraq wars. Mexicans and blacks created actual gangs within the military and it got pretty bad. That’s a pretty interesting thing to watch happen. No matter where they go they’ll never work together as one large group, they’ll divide themselves into little tribes. From dividing platoons to entire countries into tribes. The only time I saw white people create any sort of gang in the military was just as a response to blacks and Mexicans and the white gang wasn’t really even a gang it was just a defense.
@@BiggestRedditor racist fucker.
The black band across the badge actually represents that the officer is mourning a death of another fallen officer within a 30 day time period. It would be unnecessary to cover their badge number because most departments don’t require you to disclose your badge number.
BootlegFightVideo You’re very ill-informed.
@@paulm1690 Nope informed by many sources. Your shit loser opinion is not one.
@bryan joiner Yup photos of cops hiding badges hurts your cop blowing feelings. Zombie quoted The Post and they are shit ass right wingers who said same thing. Guess you are dumb.
BootlegFightVideo calm down bud.
“After he stung his finger in my bung hole... everything changed for me Joe...” -Me obviously
People would love cops if every cop was like Rosco from the Dukes of Hazard....
James Best.. he is my great uncle adopted out from my mom's side of family.. past away few years ago never met him but great guy from what I've seen and heard..
TheRusseLL sooo... he wasn’t immediate family?...
@@mesmith2526 I was young when he knew my Grandfather.. But I do have Family albums to look at with Jewel Guy in them :)
TheRusseLL oh, Dang. I was just busting your chops because my little brother used to do the same thing to explain our relation to Bruce from the Beach boys (after my grandma remarried.. and divorced), but we never even met the guy lol
Roscoe P. Coletrane!
As a cop, I appreciate you and thank you. Everything you stated was 100% accurate.
Thank you for serving, sir!
I’ve been stopped about 25 times in my life and I’ve had one experience that the cop lectured me. He wasn’t an ass, he just lectured me for about five minutes and let me go without a ticket.
That's why they mentioned perspective. There's people out there who got stopped 25 times and got harrassed every single time. Depends on the neighborhood you live in, the cops themselves, how you look etc. There are a lot of variables at play.
Look up what a cop makes in Beverly Hills and tell me they don't make enough, lol.
The value of a given salary is relative to the area it is being earned or will be spent.
Earning $3k/mo in California is under the poverty line and requires a roommate for a 2 bedroom apartment, but take that same income to a place like Iowa and you're renting a 3 bedroom house. Alone.
I live in Silicon Valley. I know how expensive California is, and I'd still take it over just about anywhere else (as long as you can afford it like I can)
A cop making 300 or 400 grand a year, which is what they make in Beverly Hills, is not hurting. Perhaps you were unaware of just how much they make.
@@sayrerowan734
Ummmm. No, they're not.
A Captain barely makes $240k/yr and that's gross, meaning BEFORE taxes. After, it's just under $220k/yr.
You have to get to the elected officials to even get close to the pay grade you're claiming street cops make.
If you're going to make up shit, try not to exaggerate it so much. It only makes you look like a pathetic amateur.
www.beverlyhills.org/cbhfiles/storage/files/594617412634836820/AllClassificationsSalaryScheduleEff.07-16-2019.pdf
Rob only likes the cops when they shut down skate parks next to his mansion.
Lmao I was talking about that the other day. His wife of all people complaining about noise. The Zombie family disturbed by a little noise.... 🤷♂️😂
"Happy wife, happy life."
Actually here is the real story as told by the man himself: search for "Rob Zombie on local skatepark closing". It seems as though the headlines vastly exaggerated it
Chaos Undivided I like how she pretends to write her own jokes.
Yeah well when you spend millions of dollars on a house to enjoy peace and quiet you dont want kids hanging out all night making noise. Not that hard to understand.
Looks like a hippie gavin mcinnes
Hippie squared
Rob MotherfuckN Zombie! What an amazing man and by far thee best live performer I’ve seen!
Joe makes a good point, in a way policing is like user interface design, it's not really thought about much by the public unless it's an example of them doing it wrong.
This conversation really has more meaning in 2020
I appreciate the kind words towards Police officers. I graduated from the Police Academy this year, and I love interacting with people, and helping how I can. I volunteer usually a couple times a week, and miss wearing the uniform when I dont have it on. It's an honor and privilege to wear the black and Blue, and we're people first, not just cops. Cheers!
Too Canadian, enjoy your police work, stay safe, uphold the law unilaterally, don’t violate people’s rights, and above all please do not turn a blind eye to any misconduct/illegality you may ever witness a fellow officer do...if you see something, say something!
Police hatred is a distinct difference from a humble town that has very little to no crime, but people are getting pulled over for ultra simple driving infractions. And when they are pulled, 4 squads show up..... (seat belt, one day expired tag sticker, exactly 10 over, etc.....)
Then there are major city cops dealing with very scary people! This, should change your appreciation for them! They have a very difficult and potentially life altering job. Many cities have very serious crime and killings daily. Having zero respect for those types of police officers that police those areas, is ridiculous. They deal with situations that maybe 70% of the police force in the US will never even face. Hence the shity yearly salary. I wish there was a way to change it by location.
Rob zombie kinda sounds like Brian redban if you listen to the audio separately and don’t look at the video at all lol.
I really enjoyed this episode.
Rob your awesome. 💝
Three people I went to high school with became cops. Two of them were serious bullies, and the third was seriously bullied.
So based on THREE examples, you draw a conclusion im assuming?
@@DJSbros yup. Care to hear the conclusion I've drawn about you ?
@@johnnixon4085 It's probably unnecessarily stupid but go ahead
@@DJSbros because you're so very different from an AR-15. The AR only has one trigger.
@@johnnixon4085 I wasn't triggered though...What does an AR-15 have to do with anything?
I was a bouncer for six years, and I loved the cops!
Well duh
As a police dispatcher, this was refreshing.
Thats one Fidgety Bloke
Jus want to send a thank you Joe, from a cop. This is a great clip. And although I agree with Rob, it doesn’t justify the shit that happened back in the day or anything that is unjust in the future. But the idea of perspective is so true.
3 types of cops in the world:
1. Former bully who wants to keep being a bully legally.
2. The former bullied who wants to do the bullying.
3. The guy who wants to actually make a difference.
The last group is rare and they get beaten down by the 2 previous groups and eventually quit.
Perfectly put
Eh more like civilians that say eff the police and dont trust them even if the cop is out there to do good.
@Liberty or Death I would say 90% of cops are good guys and gals its the 20% thats the prob
I would say more like 90% for #3
There have been 5 people very close to me who have either been abused or murdered by cops. I have never run into a cop who has been nice to me other than my uncle who was shot on the job so dur, of course there are a few good ones, but they are far and inbetween. Just gotta get that quota
Watching this in 2020 which played out this conversation in real time.
Police Academy movies is a good example and i like those movies.
You telling me cops treat you differently when your word famous millionaire than when you were a nineteen-year-old nobody walking down the street
Blood, milk and sky.
Literally the best thing he every touched.
Being a Cop full time in
Gmod-RP taught me alot.
Our perceptions change over time. Love your music and your films
Change is the only constant.
I laugh when people dont understand this concept.
I could be a cop if I wanted to with my Army Infantry background but I also have morals.
@Liberty or Death lol yeah right like I would be a mindless jarhead. My brother, grandfather and great grandfather were all Army as well. Also police departments prefer infantry over MP's since they are working with a clean slate to train. It's harder to retrain MP's. Ya know what's funny though, I always found it interesting how so many Marines made their way over to the Army after they were discharged.
Why is the sky blue?
@Liberty or Death Lol STFU
@Liberty or Death lol whatever you say, you are a prime example as to why people view marines as narcissistic.
@@hollywood21639 Because God loves the Infantry, just don't tell Mr. Marine LIBERTY or DEATH that XD
As a Deputy, I feel like this was a good video.
Especially from about 4:22-the end
Same. Loved it.
He seeeeeeems so chilllllll compared to his movies lol
I used to love Reagan Youth as a band!
Alot of big cities warrant that attitude from police ,and then theres the arrogant small town fear me im the be all end all authority ,creating situations out of nothing
Ive worked with police in big cities vs small towns and almost all the dicks are in the big city. In small towns news and gossip travels so fast, you know most people and your name is known by people. In the big city you're one of a thousand badge numbers, can get away with being a dick to whoever you want.
@Youthin Asia Respect my authoritah
Native New Yorker here, late 40's
lived here all my life.. I was around for this riot. This story needs context. Tompkins Square Park was on Ave A and stretched to Ave B. It was a cesspool of homeless drug addicts, heroin mostly. You could walk past people shooting up or shitting out in the open. There were runaways begging in the street and there was a miasma of dirt, chaos and violence that permeated the whole area. The police were there to remove the homeless encampments from the park. The situation had carried on for years. The punks, addicts, drunks, and homeless fought back against the police. They threw urine on them and bags of shit. Eventually the black "mourning bands" that were higher on the shield slid down and the beatdown began. The park got cleaned out by force and children play there now. I like Rob Zombie but the beatings were deserved..His friends easily could have just left the area. It was a long simmering escalation before it got crazy.
I've had better experiences with police since I moved to Oregon from Maryland. A huge part of that is higher standards, better funding and better training, but also things like population density and the low crime makes cops jobs here in Oregon less stressful.
Wherever Zombie is on,
I'm watching.
It's called growing up.
Look for trouble, and you'll find it.
Found the cop.
So Philando Castile was looking for trouble when he told the cop he was carrying and that he was reaching into the glovebox to get his license? That was looking for trouble?
You’re a fool and always will be
Good cops should root out and report bad cops. Want people to respect you, run off your rotten apples!
Midnight Green have you ever considered that this stuff can happen all the time and you never hear about it because there was no big incident to report about? “Police officer detained for abuse of power” gets a lot less clicks than “cop gets away with abusing minority”. You will never ever be able to completely stomp out people being bad, it can happen anywhere.
Man hit me up when you have a better grasp of the English language. Police on this country have become toxic. It's not the same all over.
Midnight Green How are they toxic all over the country if it isn’t the same everywhere?
With your first response, your wording is so terrible I really didn't think you were from the USA.
Midnight Green So I’m guessing you don’t have an answer for how they can be toxic all over the country while also not being the same all over.
Bought myself a cheap used home stereo when I was younger and inside was a cd with a robot space man on it.... come to find out it was an old white zombie cd and i played the living shit out of it! Huge fan of all your work!
This is my 4th time watching this one..
Great just awesome..
Have zombie back jre.👌
I think the cops in my area are good people
I'd imagine most cops are good people. We just don't see the cops who do a great job day in and day out, most of the time we only see examples of bad cops.
@@charlesscott27 bLuE mAn bAd
In The black neighbourhoods and in the past the vast majority of cop interactions have indeed been undue beatings and planting false evidence.
Liberty or Death yes they have are you black ? If not how do you know the experience
So casually mentions THE Dave insurgent
Notice that Joe had to end it with "a massage" for"the man" at the end....
Real heroes excerize their rights that our Ancestors died for. Period.
Nice sentimental tripe, it means nothing.
@@eliack95 NiCe cYniCaL cOMmeNt
;askoefj he’s not wrong tho
Real hero’s protect the rights
Screw ancestors, screw "heroes" and screw the world. Keep your guns.
wait until they drag you out of car and throw you handcuffs before they even ask you for your id and they can not find the videos what are the odds it has cost me thousands in lawyer fees
Liberty or Death the point he’s making is that it’s doesn’t make it “right” to do that. Which most people would tend to agree with.
Hey Joe when can you get John Salley on your show? Would love to see that show!!!
"Powerless twats when they were young." Hahahaha! But you're right, Joe, there are always a handful of guys that had their underwear pulled over their head when they were younger. Then they're given a badge and become Billy Badass.
I'm actually impressed with Joe's view on police! 👍💯👌
NYPD should just strike for a weekend. they would have double salary come tuesday
@Invert Your Cross I'm honestly eager to see what your definition of a "non fucking lunatic" is Mr. satanist Jack Skellington.
@Invert Your Cross riiiiight, that's not a easy Job at all. Alot of people can't work in Emergency Services especially a Law Enforcement Officer. I'd like to see who you would hire for that job go 2 Days without without Police/Sheriffs Dept, see what kinda madness would ensue. God forbid a traffic light go down, dumbasses can't figure out a flashing traffic light at a intersection and Police have to direct them. Same people that get their house broke into or themselves or Familly member gets Murdered/Raped they want the Police there NOW!....but fuck the Police right? Doing a job that a overwhelming amount of people can't even do let alone do what they do in the environment that they do it in these days for the pay they make.
They do get paid good salries for only having high school diplomas. They want more money, get educated. Most don’t even knownthey law they’re supposed to be enforcing. Anyone can do that job. I did it for 8 years until I found a better job in a field where I can actually help save lives. In the medical field.
@@Psypher169 It's not only the salary but the massive pensions paid out for the rest of their lives after they retire in their 50's
They did strike like 2 years ago in protest and crime actually went down so they hurried up and came back and act like the protest didnt happen look it up
Murderers the vast majority of the time are not in the act of murdering someone .
Being a cop sounds a lot like being a teacher.
If the "vast majority" of snakes in a bucket were not poisonous, would you be eager to shove your hand in it?
Rob Franklin now imagine this bucket of snakes was somehow the only thing keeping society afloat and literally no one was asking you to put your hand in it. That’s cops.
Any "good cop" that does nothing about "bad cops" especially because of "cop culture" ceases to be a "good cop".
this story hits different now
If you close your eyes you could swear that Rob zombie is mark marrion. ...or next time you listen to mark you could picture rob lol