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- John 10:34 - Scripture Twisting 101
"Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?"
Al Fadi invites special guests David Wood and Sam Shamoun to explore Biblical scripture commonly used by Muslims, manipulated and out of context, to disprove the Truth of the Word of God.
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Sam's bible exegesis can't be refuted or explained away by the wave of the hand... He is blessed by wisdom from the Holy spirit
Roland Burchett brother please explain this in Hindi in your youtube channel
@@truefacts3771 You are right that this message should be heard in every language, just like Jesus foretold! Maybe it is an idea to get into contact with either Sam, David or the Christian Prince, so they can work on getting translations of their video's.
Roland, are you that gullible? If you read the context of John 10:30, it is obvious that Jesus and the Father are one in purpose and will because he only does the will of the Father. Same idea at John 17:20-23 where the Father, Jesus, and disciples are one. And we know how Jesus understood the charge at John 10:33 because he quotes this Psalm: "I said, “You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High." The only God is Jesus Christ's God. Don't be so deluded. And Shamoun doesn't even hear what he is saying. Sanctified and sent into the world. God the Son needed to be sanctified before being sent into the world. Absolutely nothing in this context refers to Jesus being the same ousia as the Father. But you get to imagine up whatever you like in Trinitarianism don't you?
@@FatherOnly If 'you' read the context of John 10:30 it is obvious that Jesus and the Father are one in purpose and will because Jesus does only what the Father does: gives eternal life, assures security of salvation and in the previous context claims to be able to rise Himself from the dead and declares that all have eternal life because of Him. What human, prophet, angel, created being has this power as the Father does? But I guess it's easy to reject Trinitarianism when you don't understand it don't you? (been there before)
Christ was given that power by the father he didn't have it of himself.
A very helpful explanation indeed. The best way to teach Muslims on Jesus is to untwist their scripture twisting. God bless you all.
It is the Muslims who have and continue to pervert the Scriptures shamelessly.
I love how David and Fadi only introduced the question and let Sam answer it bc Sam is the bible genius LOL
@@msvh-l9616 Why? Is your Allah not able to punish him or make judgement or he needs you to do it?
@@nd2350 you know Riaz is Christian right?
@@nd2350 yah dude, you shouldn't judge right away base on its appearance.
I like the verse by verse format very much. Easy to share and send to response to various objections. God bless your ministry!
Good interpretation right there.. many believers misunderstood that verse and call themselves gods. 😭
God bless you.
No, the explanation was just touching the surface. We all peple, not just christian, are gods. Gbu always
Thank you guys for spreading the gospel
God bless you!!! God bless you your families too!!!
May God bless you Sam for this great exegesis
Thank you all so much for all you do!
Thank you guys for these sessions. They are essential for us newbies who desire a deeper understanding of the Holy scriptures!
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour AMEN 🙏
Sam is like a fresh stream from the mountain of God.
This is the best explanation of John 10:34 and Psalms 82 that I've ever heard. Mormons use these verses to support Joseph Smith's unique teachings that we are all literally Gods in embryo. And that there is a pre-mortal life where we met with the council of all the Gods. I'm thankful to be leaving this heretical church.
Excellent teaching!
Thanks Sam for a wonderful exposition.
When Jesus spoke it is of The Holy Spirit The law dwells in the heart and all of you are children of The Most High ✌️😇❤️❤️❤️
Jesus and the Father are one amen 🙏
Thank you again for your effort to bring the Truth.
This was awesomeeeeeee thank you very much!!!!
The explanation is fantastic and awesome . Thanks sam shamoun sir. You'll be rewarded in heaven for this video.
God bless you all for all you do.🙏❤️🙏
Thank you and may God bless you all
Thank you so, so much!! This was incredibly helpful.
This is an amazing series I have ever seen. Keep up this good work and God bless u
The explanation and time and effort is great fully appreciated and was very helpful, thank yOu. My daughter asked me this very same question and now can with understand and confidence explain her the answer.
Mush Shalom Shalom and a double portion in Blessings to everyone.
Numbers 6:22-26 May the LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace. A peace that this world cannot give you. That peace that only Jesus can give yOu, in Jesus name I pray, Amen. ✨🙌🏻👑🕊🌿✨
Wonderful preaching God is great.
I'm with the guy in the red shirt... Amen to you brother and all three of you.
Thank you. This is also helpful in rebutting those who want to claim we are "little gods". We wouldn't want to be aspiring to be this kind of god spoken of in the psalms.
You take his word for it? lol that’s not even the worst part of the book of John, much less that chapter. John contradicts itself more than any other religion’s holy book.
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Im at 00:30 and I want to say thank you.
Hallelujah
Thank you
Very helpful God bless you all
Wow what an excellent explanation God's Word is inexhaustible I always learn something new
Thank you guys🙏🏻
Thank you so much
😳 amazing video. Yah bless!
Merry Christmas
Sam , simply brilliant !
Well done, Gentlemen !!
Thank you!
Thank you very much, great job
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understood. 🙂
Good work, guys. Defenders of the Faith.
You told me the message was easy to understand
Praise God the 3 truth speakers.
Yes!
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Wow what a nice explanation
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Sam just wow! God bless you brother
Good work
Thank you for clarifying John 10:34-36 Pastor. That scripture seems to be the one people in the New Age movement love to twist. Of course they don't seem to know it's context or the rest of the word of God but they just like this one because they have a God complex. There is only one God. 🙏✝️🕊
You know by the holy spirit this guy is telling the truth
Jesus tells them that he sent the law of Moses. Can a Muslim tell me who gave Moses the law?
Actually which verse?
Allah gives Moses
@@osuclassof88 where's the word Allah in Hebrew text? If it's not there..you STFU
@@damsondaniel2527 Moses and the Qur’an by John Kaltner
Here’s an interesting trivia question that hardly anyone gets right: What person is mentioned by name the most times in the Qur’an? If you guessed Muhammad you’d be wrong, because he’s referred to by name only four times in the approximately 6,300 verses of Islam’s sacred text. The correct answer is Moses, who is named a remarkable 115 times. More narrative is devoted to him than to any other person, biblical or not. That fact takes many non-Muslims by surprise, but there are some good reasons for the heavy coverage Moses enjoys in the Qur’an.
The most important reason is that Moses was not only a prophet but also a messenger. The Qur’an teaches that certain prophets were also charged with bringing a divinely revealed text to their people, and this is what makes them messengers. Moses, along with David (the Psalms), Jesus (the gospel), and Muhammad (the Qur’an), is identified as a messenger, and the name of his book is the Torah (in Arabic, tawrat). The Qur’an relates much information about Moses’ life and work as a prophet/messenger, but it does not contain a unified and cohesive biographical account like the one found in the Hebrew Bible. Rather, it refers to Moses in many places throughout the text, and often the passages are only a few verses in length. In addition, there are sometimes multiple versions of the same event that don’t always agree on the details, which can cause confusion for readers familiar with the biblical account. The longest treatment of Moses is found in 20:9-99, and if you read that section you’ll get a pretty good idea of what the Qur’an has to say about him.
Many of the Moses traditions in the Bible have counterparts in the Qur’an, but they are usually told in a way that reflects Islamic theology and beliefs. For example, in its telling of Moses’ birth (28:3-13), the Qur’an has the same story about a newborn who is raised in Pharaoh’s household after his mother puts him in the river (see Exod 2), but there’s an interesting twist. In the Qur’an’s version, God is a major character who is involved with everything that happens from beginning to end. This is in marked contrast to the biblical story, where God isn’t mentioned a single time.
The reason for this difference is simple: Islam teaches that God is all-powerful and in control of everything that happens, so of course the deity would be an active participant in every aspect of Moses’ birth story. In the biblical version, on the other hand, we have to read between the lines or assume God is working behind the scenes in order to make the deity an active part of the story. In this case, as elsewhere when it treats biblical characters, the Qur’an makes God’s presence more obvious and clear.
Other qualities that are central to the Qur’an’s view of God are mercy and forgiveness, and they are manifested in the famous golden calf episode. The biblical account (Exod 32) presents a very angry and harsh picture of God, who is fed up with the Israelites and orders them to kill three thousand of the worst offenders before sending a plague for good measure. The Qur’an story (7:148-54) moves in the opposite direction, as all the human characters-Moses, Aaron, and the Israelites-experience God’s mercy, and all their relationships are strengthened through divine care and compassion.
Of course, God is active, merciful, and forgiving in the Bible as well, but in some places the Qur’an goes to extra lengths to underscore those traits. Many of those stories involve Moses, whether he is encountering God at the burning bush, competing against Pharaoh’s magicians, escaping the Egyptian forces through the dried-up sea, or communing with God on the mountain. As the Qur’an’s leading man, he has a role that can hardly be called trivial.
John Kaltner, "Moses and the Qur’an", n.p. [ci
@@osuclassof88 nah leave This..it's about Quran n Moses..but I asked you something..where the word Allah present in Hebrew text, (Torah) which was sent by him..if Allah sent him then the word Allah should be in Torah, where is it???
John 1:[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
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@imu70 Of course lol
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What is the difference between “Elohim” and “Jehovah/Yahweh.” The word “Elohim” is also used in Genesis 1 where Elohim says, “let us make man in our image.” (I am a Christian and have a relatively firm grasp of the Bible so please respond from this perspective.).
Great series, guys! Thank you!
The English word God/gods is translated Elohim in Hebrew. Jehovah is a corrupt transliteration of the tetragramaton (four letters yod.. hey.. vav.. hey) YHWH/YHVH which is the name of Elohim (God) and translated as LORD (capital letters) in many English bibles including the KJV.
Im not a scholar but I hope this helps.
American Patriot
I’m not a scholar either but from what I’ve told is that Elohim was used because Yahweh was so sacred for Israel they did not want to write down His personal name.
Watch Michael Heiser video on this topic
ua-cam.com/video/Hz8J4DTIkEg/v-deo.html
El is a god, any god. In fact in exodus 12:12 it talks about the elohim of Egypt. Yahweh is the proper name of the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Elohim is a generic title and Jehovah is a personal name. I'm not a JW either. Lol
Is Christians need to be Vigilant and pick up on these things too. This should be know by most of us. Me included
Amen!
I have heard various spiritual teachers on youtube claim that in the original text prior to translations that Jesus actually said (paraphrasing) "so why is it blasphemy that I call myself "A" son of God" rather than "The" son of God however it was changed at some point in translation. I dint know if that is true but that is an interesting premise if so.
This guys good
Everytime there is a verse not supporting trinity doctrine, they say it s scripture twist.
Amen
How does one stand "among" a singular? In every version I have read it says among gods, plural.
nice you could have mentioned the verse about the law being fulfilled Matthew 5:17 muslims use this alot
Jesus is God. Compare Psalm 102:23-27 with Hebrews 1:10-12. God himself shows you Jesus is the God in Psalm 102.
come again?
Jesus Christ is indeed the lord revealed to men .
Hebrews 1:5-8 also proves he is God. Also compare John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14. It proves Jesus is God. But when I show Muslims this, they ignore the part where Jesus said "before Abraham" And just start twisting things, using broken logic, and eventually changing the subject.
Amen 🙏🙏
Can you expand Matthew 24:36 , especially with combination of Matthew 10:30
?
Thanks
Wow Sam was just perfect! David needs to check with Sam before he speaks!
Sam heads off you 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is shamoun saying that some one read psalms and put some of those words in jesus mouth to make it seem like he was saying Godly things?
Hey David, I loved the whole explanation up to 3:28. I just wanna state that although Jesus used the example that Sons of God are gods, Jesus is the Begotten Son of God. That makes Jesus the King of the kings, or the Son of God of the sons of God. Jesus Himself is actually not about to be stoned for their misinterpretation of His speech, but they must understand that they would be stoning Him under the accusation He is a liar, but they themselves don't understand they are supposed to understand they are considered the same. They need to remember God made them in His image and scripture says we are like them, meaning now we are like God, knowing good and evil. So the Sons of God are those who hear the Gospel and spread it and keep it. Jesus wasn't implying in thst moment He is not God, He is implying that they would be stoning Him for something major, when in minor sense, they must also be gods for keeping the law.
Actually.. Psalm 82 continues from Psalm 81. wherein it says that the gods, that congregation
.. is of Jacob.
in short. they, the children of Israel, are being lectured on being too tolerant and not using wise judgment. Jesus later argues this same point. Jeremiah argues it. Isaiah argues it. John argues it.
God is standing in the congregation of the mighty. which at that time was his house. they were allowing things to slide. they were not following the voice of truth, the commands of morality sealed in our foreheads, as God gave us.
Instead they were being passive toward evil.
Jesus was pointing out that God judges the congregation of "gods"(small g) and they are identified as gods according to God.
read all Psalms in context and carry on to the next.
the tribes of Jacob are known as gods to the other inhabitants of earth. then they forget who they are, so do the other people. only to realize they were indeed the gods later. even in revelation ppl bow down to worship them.
What I don't understand is: if we have it established in the OT that the word god or elohim can be used figuratively, then doesn't that take alot of strength from NT passages which may seem to call Jesus god? It could also be that they were just meant figuratively, as in a righteous person or judge? And then the issue of the jews killing him for his claims can be explained by their general hostility and stubborness. I mean there are plenty of narratives about the children of Israel being stubborn and or hostile towards their Prophets
Jesus did NOT back track on what He said but instead doubled down by aligning the Pharisees with the false teachers of Psalm 82 of which were called FALSE gods (little g). Read it again - carefully. Sam explains it really well.
This is the difference between the Bible and the Koran, a Christian would not manipulate his scripture but the is manipulated and changed by Muslims scholars in every ways to the point of absurdity, there's always an explanation for the Bible even though the words can be difficult sometimes but the Muslims needs to defend their Koran by lies or by force which shows the Illigitamacy of the Koran
One of the mysteries of human kind is how we are, without the true God's help, completely unable to see truth in spiritual matters. The fall of the angels occurred because Satan, in his pride, would no longer worship God after He revealed to them His intention to incarnate His Word in a human body and make the Word "lower than the angels" (Hebrews 2:7) for a short time. Satan would not worship the God incarnate.
The apparent separation of the triune God into the Son of Man and the ancient of days (Daniel 7) is precisely what we find as defined as the worst sin in Islam;... shirk or the sin of association. Mohamed redefines the incarnation as the worst sin against God when it is in fact God's solemn plan for salvation from all eternity. Therefore the sin of Satan in rejecting God's plan of salvation is completely justified in Islam. The evil thought process of Satan is completely validated and exalted while God's plan for salvation is twisted into becoming the the worst sin of Islam.
The Islamic definition of shirk and the way it is applied to Christianity is the single biggest lie in all history! This lie is believed as a core doctrine by almost 1.5 billion people. Mohamed's twisted ideology of sin is what prevents 1.5 billion God fearing people from knowing Christ...In Islam the sin of Satan is imposed on mankind. This is the lie we must all expose!
God bless!
There's not actually that high of a number of muslims. The demographic of "muslims" is highly skewed.
@@LlyneM-rf3gd You're absolutely right but I didn't want my comment to be twisted by Muslims into forgetting the point and turning in into a debate about quantity versus quality. All the so called moderate Muslims are really bad Muslims according to Islam.
The fact that the oldest mosque in the world is in China and that Islam was never able to convert China in 1400 years proves that without the sword and with even birth rates between religions, Islam doesn’t spread at all. On the other hand Christianity grows at a rate of 10% per year in China and it will in a few decades be the largest Christian nation in the world.
God bless!
JoeL landry
Best to get the Quranic narrative right before you post.
Satan wouldn't bow to Adam NOT Jesus.
Matthew 12:26
Is Jesus lying?
Peace.
@@mikerevs34 matthew 12:26 "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
Why would you ask if Jesus was lying? Jesus never lied, never sinned.
@@mikerevs34 What did I get wrong? In the Quran (2:34) Allah asks the angels to prostrate themselves in front of a human being. Then Satan is the only one which refuses to worship a creature...it make no sense at all. Allah is asking angels to worship Adam and Satan is the only one that refuses...
It's so obviously fabricated and makes no sense, however angels worshipping God incarnate and Satan refusing do do it now THAT makes sense.
God bless!
Great video! I also like Michael Heiser view on this topic..He tells thar those 'gods' in psalm 82 were angels or fallen angels ,whom God appointed to be rulers over the nations. I think before the flood . that's why it's said of them ..you will die like men...coz they were not mere men..but elohim..sons of God.
I am who I am
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Just because Jesus said this does not mean it can be used to rebuke the fact that he is the Lord. I don't understand how they can twist this up. If God is our father and he is a God then how is it that if we are his children we are not all little gods in his eyes? It is possible that we are that but it doesn't mean God is not above us. We can have power but God's power will always be greater than ours especially if he is our father and creator
Read the ppl vs Muhammad.
It’s a easy 300 page read with pages and pages of sources that you can look up for yourself
You only have to read what Jesus says in John 17:11 & 21 to know what he meant when he said "The Father and I are one".
Yeah just like a man and women in marriage are one what's your point
@@clydewaldo3144 Wasn't it obvious? My point was Trinitarians have nothing to support them in scripture, and that every one of their go-to verses are misapplied or are the result of highly questionable translation. And John 10 is a CLASSIC example of the former.
How ironic that Trinitarians look for support from the Pharisees of all people! Couple that with the fact that -bad as they were - they at least took the hint, and never accuse him of "making himself God" or "Equal with God" (Depending on which bible translation you favour) again.
I believe - and it's attested to by many different ones in the NT- that Jesus is God's Son. Who agrees with me?
Peter (Matthew 16:16), Nathanael (John 1:49), Gabriel (Luke 1:35), The Demons (Mark 3:11), Mark (Mark 1:1), John the Baptizer (John 1:34), Martha (John 11:27), Paul (Acts 9:20), and God himself at Jesus' baptism and the Transfiguration vision. (And this isn't even an exhaustive list) It's also how the man himself replied to the Pharisees in John 10: " do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?" (John 10:36)
Why not read the whole chapter in context?
i know jesus is the true king but im still not getting why he said it like that :/
Jesus G's-us Gods us you are all gods all sons of the most high
4:40
So this means Elohim isnt simply the "royal we" as modern jews and uslims love to present it. This verse is very clear, Elohim means many gods. So Elohim also works in the sense of the trinity.
@Jon Son Whenever the word "elohim" is accompanied by singular verbs or pronouns the plural is used not to denote number but rather magnitude. So for instance we read: "In the beginning God (elohim) created (bara) the heavens and the earth." The word "elohim" is plural but the word "bara" is singular so it's literally "He created" indicating one Person. Psalm 82:6 reads: "I have said, 'you are gods (elohim)." Here the word "you" in Hebrew is plural therefore "elohim" here refers to multiple persons.
@@sayedf11 You are quoting Mark 12:29 to me, but this verse is a reference to Deuteronomy 6:5 which says YHWH is our God, YHWH alone. So Jesus did not lie. You just admitted that YHWH is God. Not allah ahahahahha
Would you stone me if I said I and the Father are one?
Can you do Deuteronomy 18:18
@@sayedf11 Wrong wrong wrong.
According to your criteria any person could be a prophet like Moses. Even President Donald Trump....
Instead, let the Bible explain itself and tell us what "like Moses" means.
Deuteronomy 34:10-12
10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,
11 who did all those signs and wonders the Lord sent him to do in Egypt-to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land.
12 For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.
Did Muhammad know his god face to face? No.
Did Muhammad perform miracles? No.
But Jesus knew his Father face to face.
And Jesus performed miracles.
Quote "“and will put my words in his mouth". Did Muhammad always only spoke what his god told him? No. He spoke the satanic verses. Unless you wanna tell us Satan is Muhammads god......
sayedf11 Did you not hear when Jesus said before Abraham WAS I AM, or when HE SAID I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE AND THE SAME and always remember that the BIBLE IS OLDER THAN THE KORAN BY 700 YEARS, BEAT THAT!!!
@@sarahuzzi-daniel6490 the Muslims forget "before Abraham" And start twisting, and using broke logic to cause confusion among us Christians
Up to 3:25:
David got it right that Jesus (pbuh) did not mean he is god.
Do Not Be afraid of him who cain kill and Cain do nothing after that; instead be afraid of He who able to kill and able to destroy both soul and body in HE-ll..
Memory ( knowledge, information) is only a small part of your brain and artificial intelligence cannot persists that..
Jesus say On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you...he is talking about us....we become like god..when we know what is evil and good...god only mean superhumans or deitis... that's is why god is child of the most high..that is why that is why so many gods in the bible. Because they become intelligentsia and superhumans......so in the traslation in gene sdcc is is wrong...it first says .he create first the gods . Earth and heavens.......that is why he say is not god beside me....God is not the most hight..but we call him god.
There's so much avoidance of the citing of Psalms 82:6 and downplaying the verse when it really means just that. You are gods, in essence, regardless of your doing. Only because you don't know this that you would do evil, and die like men (you think you do).
Human mind thinks: these people does evil then the scripture must be just joking when it says they are gods. Observe how the mind would try hard to bend the scripture to suit their limited understanding. When what we really need is to adjust our frame of mind to understand it as it is. You are gods. I hope you see it.
Yes, we all people are gods. But do you really know the meaning of that? Gbu, brother.
They literally said he was claiming to be the son of God than nope he was claiming to be God?
I believe Psalm 82 was God talking to spirits who govern the nations, not humans. Similarly, I think Jesus was punking the Pharisees, talking to them about being gods which softened their hearts and confused them because they want that power, but what He was really saying is they are of their father, the evil spirits who God judged on Psalm 82.
Edit: he actually says this at the end of the video. Cool