Crazy Oil Test Results: Amsoil 5W-40 Performance Revealed
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
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Dive deep into the world of engine oil analysis with me in this video, where I discuss the results of my recent oil test from Blackstone Laboratories. As a proud user of Amsoil 5W-40, I was excited to gain insights into its performance and how well it's protecting my engine.
Join me as I break down the detailed report provided by Blackstone Laboratories, sharing key findings and interpretations. From wear metal levels to additive depletion and viscosity stability, we'll explore what the test results reveal about the condition of my engine and the effectiveness of Amsoil 5W-40.
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IMPORTANT: This 8,000 mile interval is recommended for me ONLY. These tests are not broad recommendations and are individual specific. DO NOT attempt longer drain intervals unless you complete a test.
I love ams oil use it in everything glad someone's is testing on same motor I have thanks keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
I've never tested my oil, but I've used Amsoil SS 5W30 ever since my 2015 Ford F150 FX4 2.7L "Nano" was new. I've always changed my own oil every 15k miles and my Amsoil filter every 7.5k miles. My odometer recently surpassed 240k miles. I drive my truck very hard and I've never had a mechanical failure. No warranty claims, nothing. I use Amsoil in EVERYTHING else too! lol! From my power washer to my zero-turn mower and my new tractor. Can't beat it! Oh, and I love my truck! lol! Got lots of mods, etc., I'll never get rid of her. New trucks are too damned expensive nowadays anyway. I'll just buy a brand new motor (or tranny) if I have too when the time comes and just keep on trucking! Her nickname is "Jackrabbit," and she's fast AF! lol!
That's impressive! What do you use your F150 for mostly? Does it tow heavy or are you using it as a commuter or for road trips?
I’ve been using Amsoil since 1991 and I am a dealer. Amsoil is very clear to not add oil additives or you will heavily reduce the oil change interval. I have never added oil additives to my 2021 Cummins and currently at 400,000 miles still runs like the day I bought it. I go 20,000 mile oil changes using 5w40 signature.
Thank you for the comment! I am doing my next change without the AR9100 additive. I was not aware of Amsoils official opinion on the matter, thanks for sharing this.
What driving conditions do you typically have over that 20,000 miles? Do you tow a lot or is it mostly local short trips?
@@powerstrokemaintenance I pull heavy into gold mines and back roads very dusty and muddy conditions. I don’t baby my truck but I maintain it like my life depends on it. It’s a worker bee.
That’s rowdy! Those sound like really tough conditions. Appreciate your comments!
20k mile oil changes that’s just ridiculous
@@adammiller8533 not really if you understand what AMSOIL claims as far as their oil change intervals.
Basically, they claim that you can double the oil change interval recommendation by the manufacturers by using their oil. So, if the standard recommended oil change interval is 7,000 miles, then you could essentially do 14,000 miles if you are using Amsoil. However, typically, when it comes to harsher conditions or what most people consider severe Duty conditions where people are Towing trailers with their pickups day in and day out or at least 50% of the time or more or, they're using them for construction work or idling them for long periods of time or what have you, then they typically recommend that you cut the oil change interval in half so instead of doing it at 7,000 me, you would want to do it at 3,500 miles or maybe 4000 miles at the most.
I believe most people consider that if you're going to be doing severe Duty work with your diesel pickup, you should probably change it every 5,000 miles or maybe a little less and that's kind of standard. This is for a pickup and not for a semi truck.
Semi trucks take roughly 15 gallons of oil on average so they hold about 2 1/2 to 3 times the amount of oil that a typical diesel pickup does so, semi-truck can typically go anywhere from 20,000 miles to 25,000 miles or more before you "need" to do an oil change. However, when some people do an oil analysis on their semi truck oil, they will sometimes go 30,000 Mi or maybe even 40,000 miles or more. I have heard of some people saying that they will go 50,000 miles between doing oil changes and they are just fine because they keep up the maintenance on their truck and they don't beat the crap out of it and know how to drive it so that they aren't ruining the oil life as well as other parts like turbos and eo on.
I believe I watched a video a few months back where there is another company claiming that you could probably go either 100,000 miles or maybe 500,000 miles without changing your oil and all you would have to do is change the oil filters every 50,000 miles or a 100,000 miles (I think) in a semi truck. I can't remember which specific video or Channel I watched or what company was promoting this but I think it had something to do with the filtration system and saying that the oil itself doesn't break down as long as you were filtering it properly.
So, they were saying that the oil would not necessarily need to be changed in their particular situation because the oil would not be breaking down as long as there were no other issues going on such as fuel leaking into the oil and contaminating the oil by having bad injectors or maybe a worn-out engine with bad Rings or excessive wear in the cylinders and valves and other things.
Obviously, when you think back to the days of doing an oil change in a typical gas-powered vehicle such as a car or smaller pickup, every 3000 miles seemed to be like the normal recommended interval. So, 10000 miles or 20,000 miles is obviously going to seem like an outrageous amount of miles to go in between oil changes. However, you have to understand that there's a major difference between gasoline powered vehicles and Diesel powered vehicles when it comes to what they need for maintenance and of course, how they are driven. But also, if you are considering a semi truck compared to a pickup, if the semi truck is going to hold anywhere from 2 to 3 times the amount of oil, then you would typically probably extend your oil change ringer bowl to twice or 3 times as long which comes out to be anywhere from roughly 15000 miles to 25000 miles or more depending on the conditions.
And maybe you know this already but roughly 25 years ago, things change with how a lot of the diesel engines were engineered so they require some different maintenance intervals based on how they were designed and engineered such as how the injectors run on oil pressure with Powerstroke engines from Ford or International and I'm sure even Cummins or the Duramax have some interesting intervals as well. But, of course, with time comes better products so there are better oils out there now as well as better filtering and so on. So, things have just improved.
Great video and helpful. I use oil analysis on turbine engines in aviation and have always been a big believer. Modern synthetic oils are so good that testing to determine an interval based on your use just makes sense. I use Mobil 1 Diesel and Archoil additives and find the Ford monitor pretty accurate. On average about 7500 miles for changes. Seems pretty reasonable.
Thanks for the comment! I agree with you . It seems like modern oils do hold up quite well and seem to make it at least 7500 without issue
Great info! I like the "if you don't want to test, stick with 5k miles.." part, well said. I think the 5k miles is the safe assumption for all vehicles, but of course with testing you could extend. People want to fight over a number but there are too many variables to know without testing. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Yeah people can do 3k intervals for all I care. Really all that matters is you change it regularly haha the testing just provides some interesting data
Oil is a very hot topic and you will get a lot of opinions on how often your OCI should be. Testing your oil is very informative and could alert you of a potential component failure. I personally have never tested my oil in anything but I do change my oil very regularly. You don't even want to know how crazy I am about my side by side oils lol. I think the new oils are really good and that's why we can get a little more life out of each oil change. I do the 5K OCI like I've stated before but I have a few friends that wait until the computer tells them lol. One friend has almost 200K on his 2016 and he tows a dump trailer every day. He waits until the computer tells him to change his oil. Some get lucky and some not so much.
Thanks for sharing that! At the end of the day I do believe everyone needs to find a OCI that works for them and that they feel comfortable with...provided you have a schedule and don't just run the same oil always lol
I've changed the engine oil on my 2007 Suburban and 2010 Prius every 10,000 miles, and my 2014 Honda Odyssey every 7,500. I had the 3 vehicles for 125k miles and none of them burnt oil or I had any issues.
My last vehicle, 2021 Tundra, is almost 45k miles, and this is the one I change the oil every 5,000 miles. I just seen a lot of Tundra owners experiencing some oil burning, and my oil dipstick goes half way between the dots every 5,000 miles. That means that my Tundra burns about a half quart every 5,000 miles or a quart every 10,000 miles, which according to Toyota is normal. So, I do not know what the proper oil change interval is anyways, I just did not have any issues when changing the oils every 10k or 7.5k.
To make things a bit more interesting, my buddy is a Uber driver. He has a 2013 Sienna. He changes the oil every 15k to 20k miles. His van is 400,000+ miles and he never adds oil during that interval and apparently, his van does not burn oil. So, while statistically that does not mean anything, my experience just tells me that some cars or people, depending on many factors, do experience engine damage from long intervals, and in my case, I have not.
Those are some interesting examples. Thank you for sharing! It certainly is dependent on the individual scenario. Not one size fits all with oil change intervals
I change my oil on my 6.7 powerstroke with Rotella T6 every 7500 needed or not. Oil changes are cheap insurance to keeping your truck running well, also change my fuel filters every other oil change.
I do the opposite. I change my Amsoil every 15,000 and my Amsoil filter every 7,500 miles! lol! 241k miles and still going strong!
All for oil analysis but you should watch Lake Speed Jr’s video on oil additives. Only thing I would caution is why mess with the chemistry of a great oil.
I did and agree. Thanks for the comment!
Maybe I missed it in the video but are you running an Amsoil filter too?
Tip for you, put a strong magnet on your filter regardless of brand.
I've been using Amsoil for years in everything I own. Vehicles, lawn mower, snowblower, chainsaw, even my air compressor.
Yes also running the Amsoil filter! Awesome to hear you've been running their stuff for awhile with success
Dave's Auto Center is very dramatic. I've had 3 UOA done at 7500 miles with my 2022 F450 and they all came back looking great. No need to pay 3x more for Amsoil and Archoil. T6 Rotella is great oil.
Thanks for watching!
Nice 👍🏻. I do 10k changes and 5k filters on everything....Amsoil signature is the best
That’s awesome! It’s good stuff. Are you running any of their bypass filters for oil?
Haven't tried yet but looks cool 👍🏻
Amsoil has a oil collection pump its a no mess deal. You cut the tube about 18 inches longer then your dipstick. Attach the bottle and a couple pumps and the bottle fills using the dipstick hole. (Advice when you take the tube off coil it up and put it in a baggie). It's designed for guys like you that draw samples without a oil change. Also I think its great what you are doing and I look forward to more test results.
Thank you! I wasn’t aware Amsoil offered a collection device I’ll have to check that out. Have you run oil tests yourself?
@powerstrokemaintenance I have. I've used both Blackstone and Horizon (amsoil) labs. Both are great ..I was having trouble with Motorcraft full synthetic 5w-40 and hotshot FR3 and my test kept coming back with the vicosity not as advertised. So it's amsoil from here on out. I pulled a quick sample after 700 miles and the report stated it was right on as listed for Amsoil.
Wow that's rowdy! What made you start running oil tests? Have you done testing on other vehicles?
@powerstrokemaintenance started with my 2020 f250 since the first oil change. Now I have guys I work with sending theirs in as well. Makes good conversation. The reason for the pump is I had some Motorcraft synthetic come back at the wrong vicosity twice..so no more dealer oil changes for now. Amsoil for now on.
@@Uncle_Fester24 makes sense. Better to be safe!
Gotta get a Fumoto valve. They are the bomb. Flip the lever and let it flow. Another super MX vid.
Thanks for watching! Are you ever worried someone will prank you and let out all your oil? 😂
Definitely could get those iron levels lower.
@@powerstrokemaintenance Negative. So far so good. The ease of oil service is worth it. And if they did, just close the valve and refill. Half an oil change done.
That’s a great point! I’ll look into it it would definitely make my oil change process a lot easier
@@Chiefgeargrinderand they need to be lower than the universal averages? Please explain
To reiterate what I mentioned in the video, if you don't want to do a test, you don't have to. I'm not attacking 5K or 3K intervals. Do what makes the most sense for YOU. However extending drain intervals is helpful to ME because I drive 8,000 miles per month or more. Cheers!
You are a couple of ideas about how to make that engine run better, especially as a diesel, do not try to extend oil changes without a couple of other add-ons first. One of the ways to keep a diesel engine running quite clean is to add water methanol injection. The way to keep the oil lasting as long as possible, out to 10 massively 12,000 me is to put a bypass filtration system on it. Otherwise 5 to 6,000 is a really good oil change interval for your truck. The times that you're going to run it short trips obviously is very low or they would have detected some moisture in it the fear I have is that somebody who does travel short trips is going to hear this and think that they can go 89 or 10,000 miles with their car because they only use it once in a while for short trips. The acid buildup in oils in vehicles that only drive a few miles or less than 10 Mi at a time, is quite High.
I'm not familiar with AR 91 I am with fr2, fr2 is quite an excellent additive. I will look it up and see what it's all about. I've been working on vehicles since about 1964, oil is key to a long-lived engine, trying to go to the Ragged edge of oil changes is a quick way to wear out an engine. Remember, just because you can get away with it, does not make it a good idea
That's a good point. I was careful to stress that this interval is specific to my truck and driving style. What bypass filter are you using?
I had used Blackstone several times and really liked their results and letting me know about my engine since I was using Amsoil Signature Series OIl. However, I recently sent my oil to them and two weeks later they wrote me to say the sample that the container of oil that I sent them was destroyed by the Postal Service. I contacted Blackstone and they said I should next time use a sealed Box when I ship it. I said this should be Blackstone's job! I contacted Amsoil and they agreed with me and said I can use the company they use for testing and a box is included to protect my sample. Yanni
That sounds like a terrible experience! Sorry to hear that happened. How has the service been with Amsoil's test company?
I have 2,000 miles to go before I send it off for testing@@powerstrokemaintenance
Great video! Where do you get the test kits from? Online? I'd like to do an oil test on my truck I got about 116,000 miles and I've never done an oil test. But I use my truck as a service vehicle so I end up putting a lot more hours on the vehicle than mileage so I'm usually changing according to hours. It's like you said I'm not really worried about it I'm pretty confident in my maintenance schedule but it would be nice to know what the oil condition is and the engine.
Yes that makes a lot of sense! You can get the test kits from Blackstone labs for $35 at this link - www.blackstone-labs.com/products/free-test-kits/
Have you heard of Rev X oil treatment ? Or hot shot secret TBN booster ? Maybe try those instead of arch 9100 ?
Thanks for the comment! I’ve been off oil additives ever since lake’s video on them. I run Amsoil 5w-40 and really didn’t see any added benefit from an additive
I keep trying to tell people 10,000 to 15,000 miles I've never seen an Amsoil signature series gas sample come back out of spec.
What company do you usually test with? It is remarkable how well the Amsoil signature series wears, it has such a low oxidation level
probably should look at either changing your air filter of getting a better CAI, the silicon you're getting in your oil sample is causing your higher than average silicon(AKA dirt) number. Also what oil filter are you running?
Interesting! I currently have an AFE power cold air intake that came with the truck. Was planning to switch to a banks intake given that I’ve heard the AFE’s are junk haha what CAI would you recommend? Also I run an Amsoil 20 micron filter, haven’t added a bypass filter yet
@@powerstrokemaintenance I’m am running a Banks CAI. AFE is okay, I’ve either had S&B or a Banks on all three of my Powerstrokes. All enclosed filters. The exposed filter are for show. Also id recommend picking up a CTS-3 insight. It will give you monitoring info unlike the factory system. It just plugs into the OBD port. They have two mounting options. I’d recommend the solid mount that mounts to the bottom of the grab handle.
Ok thank you! I will look into that!
after many tests for me, I came to conclusion that 50 gallons of gasoline per 1 qt of oil in the crank is very average oil change interval. on a good running engine using AMSOIL that number is about 75 gallons of gasoline per 1 qt of oil. so lets say engine takes 5qts of oil, that means on safe is 250 gallons of gas, with 25mpg means 6,250 miles between changes. It was a lot of tasting over many years with few different cars and conditions. just my 2c
Thanks for the comment!
You could probably get away with 6k mile oil changes using any synthetic oil on the market. But you could probably double that interval with Amsoil. I'm just say'n...
Oil analysis costs $35, just change your oil more often and put the $35 towards the oil change. I don't get the desire to test oils constantly.
Considering that a gallon of amsoil costs around $60 and powerstrokes take almost 4 gallons of oil, you would save money if you tested occasionally through the lifespan of the engine. Spending $240 every 5,000 miles on oil gets pricey. If you can do a test once a year and extend it to 8,000 miles or beyond, you are saving a good amount of money.
Well said!
You don't have to test constantly. Twice in a row, maybe, to start off with. Then once every year/year and a half, if ever.
It’s always smart to spend a little to save a lot but it’s your money and your truck.
It’s like saying blood analysis is just waste of money. Oil can tell you all kinds things that can save thousands in repairs
If you plan on keeping your vehicle change at 5k period.
You are using a superior product engineered to not need drug additive’s. In fact Amsoil states Do not use any oil additive. Thanks for the video but the Vocational Teacher in me and Tier 1 Amsoil dealer for 35 years has to let others know this.
My 6.7 runs Signature 10W-30 pulling an Airsteam in extreme summer temps. Never uses a drop.
Thanks for sharing!
How about not telling Blackstone how many miles are on the oil.
I just don’t trust these oil tests when they have to much information
I'll try and see what they say lol
what does that engine cost? Oil is very cheap actually.
Yes, yes it is
Actually, they cost about the same at the end of the day... 🤔