ENGINEERING UNBOXED: This filter can extend your oil life
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Gale Banks explains how adding a high-quality bypass filter system to your diesel pickup can greatly extend the life of the oil and protect the engine.
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You are a national treasure Mr Banks.
A storied name here as well.
The wealth of knowledge.
What happens when an engineer is also a mechanic. Most mechanics are just hacks with no formal education
@@Shredxcam22 , That is the difference between a technician and a mechanic. That is why technicians typically work at dealerships and are factory trained. You also get what you pay for.
I’m boofed go hell and he’s like Jesus
I remember how proud my grandpa was when he had his Banks turbocharger installed on his 1985 Ford F-250. He loved that truck!
Thanks, but I would love a follow up on this. What were the results of the oil test and what did subsequent tests after the bypass system was installed look like?
Someone else tested this and it's kinda just useless.
I also wonder how much a replacement filter costs
I put the Amsoil remote bypass system on my 1999 Ram 3500 and I hauled a 3 car trailer for about a year with it. I ran the heavy duty marine diesel amsoil oil and I was able to extend the oil change interval. I noticed that the oil stayed much cleaner and I also had it tested and the recommendation from the lab was to change the filter and keep running the same oil. It definitely will help your engine last longer. I still have the truck and it has 240K miles on it and runs as good as the day I purchased it. I highly recommend Amsoil products.
That's awesome.
Nothing will help your truck last longer if you already change your oil regularly. The bypass filter can only match regular maintenance at best, or maybe perform worse. It certainly won't help if you have a habit of not performing maintenance
@jankington216 Absolutely, without real scientific testing, it's bs.
@@jankington216the bypass filter is 1-2 micron. Metal particles that damaged the bearings the most are 1-7. So yes it is massively increasing engine life and oil life.
@@2seep That doesn't fix the oil losing its lubricity
I work in the passenger railroad industry. Our locomotives use Cat C15 and C18 engines to provide 480 VAC power to the cars. The Cat engines have a secondary oil filtration system that uses a centrifugal style, or "spinner" filter to remove excess soot from the oil.
In all honesty, the Cat engines are under worked - while the generators strapped to them are rated for 500-600 kW, they only regularly see about 10-12% load (maybe about 15% for the C15 engines with 500 kW generators). That extra filtration really helps a lot, as the engines don't run hard enough in normal use to burn off all the soot and particulates that build up.
One boat that I worked on as chief engineer had the biggest Spinner 2 that T.F. Hudgins made (the 600?) on each of the EMD 16-710 main engines. The Spinners had an electric motor driven pump pulling from the bottom of the oil pan to operate them, didn't tap into the engine's pressure system. Our oil analysis always came back with below normal soot content; we cleaned each Spinner once a month, and always got a phenomenal amount of soot out of them. The airboxes really didn't stay that much cleaner, but you could definitely see a difference on the top ends of the engines, much less sludge buildup between overhauls. As an aside, the Spinner bowls were a real chore to clean, so we took to using spray nickel anti-seize on the insides of the bowl, the joint between the bowl halves and the inside bottom of the internal baffle (funnel?). Problem solved; a simple scraper made from al old wooden spoon that the cook had tossed got the job done in no time then.
@@BilgeDweller hahahahaha! That's awesome!
Our EMDs don't have spinner filters on them, but I bet they'd benefit from it. That said, the michiana filters do a pretty job of keeping them clean.
I wonder if they've looked at an approach with multiple smaller I6 diesels, with shared oil and cooling, attached with clutches. You could make sure that all of the working engines get some time, keep at temperature; but only enough of them are actually *running* to meet the load at peak efficiency.
@@microcolonel Those are commonly referred to as "gen set" locomotives. I've heard a lot of mixed things about them, with the negatives being maintenance and reliability issues.
@@jameshaulenbeek5931 Yeah, I can see a lot of pitfalls regarding reliability, but I think if the [mechanical, electrical] engineers aren't sleeping on the job they should be able to figure it out.
That's why I was talking about a shared generator, multiple motor arrangement (rather than a set of independent generators). I'm inclined to look at the *frequent and repeated cold starts* as a major factor contributing to reliability issues, before anything else.
Also I think they only make gensets for switching, not sure if there are genset primary locomotives.
We need more videos of banks history, love hearing about his racing history and helping manufactures
Look up "The Boost Gauge is Dead to Me" on youtube - it's about an hour long but there's a bunch of stuff about banks's history in there
When amsoil knows your big on UA-cam so they send half the warehouse lol
Watching Gale open a box of shwag from Amsoil might be the most wholesome video the diesel community has ever seen.
High I’m Gale Banks. Almost everyday of my life is Christmas. Well done.
Amazing to see what it actually means to live what you love.
Synthetic firearm lubricant? Ok Mr Banks I want to hear more about your gun hobby.
Ditto
We need banks firearms.
Diesel powered spud guns!
@@gordowg1wg145 🤣
Yep what does he have.
Gale Banks is truly one of our living national treasures, thanks again mr. banks we r listening
I have a Frantz by pass on my RV for the last 10 years. Every time I check the oil I smile .
Amazing systems they are!
@@Mr.Beastforpresident Why?
tell us more, please, thinking of puttingca Frantz AFTER my Amsoil bypass on my very high mileage truck.
Mr. Gale Banks - Thank you for all the incredible work you have done all your life for us !!!! I have read about you and your company in all the car magazines, since the 60's... Love that you are looking at helping all the big diesel owners get more longevity and performance from their hard working rigs ! They need all the help they can get ! Thank you for this video ! Next year, 2022 I will take delivery of a very small gasoline turbocharged engine in my last vehicle, a new Ford Ranger Lariat.. It has a 2.3L ecoboost little 4-cylinder, and I need to be very careful to keep it alive so it outlives me.. :) All this information, and also from those nice Amsoil people will help me make the right choices, thank you for all of your work with them !
I hope you and yours are always safe and well.
To help keep you there, I am going to offer some prayers of Faith for you and yours tonight, and also for all those that are part of your team and their families as well..
Merry Christmas from the Northern California Farmlands !
Fran Danco
I loved the vintage footage of the jet boat enduro's. Oldsmobile had a pretty big presence in jet boats in the early 70's, but had a lot of failures, which I heard was oil system related. I never knew that Gale Banks worked on the Olds. A 9-hour enduro would make most engine builders today whimper like whipped puppies. And 9 hours at high speed in a boat would be like a day-long plane crash. Marine engines really have to be built tough.
Best filtration system available...been a AMSOIL dealer for over 41 yrs you have the best synthetic oil and filtration products made..
The last person I would go to for an oil recommendation would be an Amsoil dealer
@@AZDESERT2024 You just made my point
@@BigB-lt4ik Maybe your that 1 guy in the room that does not know that Amsoil is really the best Oil in the world right now. And when we tell you, and send you videos and evidence you still won't believe us, because your friend Jimmy john uses shaffers lmfballssoooo
@BigB-lt4ik It doesn't take much to be an amsoil dealer. $20/year. So... Being a dealer just means you believe in the product I guess (and get the dealer/PC discount). If he was giving out his dealer number and saying "sign up under me" then yes, your comment would be valid because he'd make money on what you sold. I know this is 3 years later... But what the hey... Im late to the party lol.
I knew a man that worked at the BOC engine plant and had been on the design team for the Oldsmobile Diesel V-8. In short, he said that the team members had explained to the high executives over and again that they needed more time on the design. The exec's didn't care and they wanted an engine pushed out for as soon as the next season. That was about 30-60 days at that point. Unable to accomplish that because of the very limited time, the engine they were able to produce was basically a converted 350. They forewarned the exec's against putting that into production. And as we all know, it did go into production.
The failure of the Oldsmobile diesel was due to the boardroom pushing the high executives. Not anything lacking with the engineers. As always, I believe that we (the USA) had the best engineers in the world, but no engineer can produce anything good if not given the time to do so. I'm not sure how Gale Banks plays into the mix other than what he offers, but I'm sure he's in agreement with what I have to say. So basically, this failure on GM's part is once again another example of their boardroom kowtowing to stockholders. If GM didn't do that, they would be a great company rather than a hit or miss company, now building what many of us former loyalists find to be substandard junk now buying buy Asian cars.
How would complete failure appease shareholders? I mean, I think mostly you're correct but come on, if the lead engineers said it's junk it wouldn't have hit the market. Somebody, somewhere at GM said it would be good. And of course they lied.
@@thisismyname2936 The reason is that the stockholders, thus GM, only think in terms of fiscal quarters. It's always profits now.
My 1978 half ton Chevy diesel turned me into a Toyota guy.
If you look closely at the german car manufacturers you'll see a similar pattern. Their quality is far into the past now and you can tell its for the same profit driven time reducing reasons
@discerningmind u.s. doesn't have the best engineers in the world...look at our horrible vehicles,roads bridges,tunnels. Europe,japan,China make us look 3rd world.
Absolutely used for baptisms.
Mr Banks.You are very respected by me.I own a 2001 dodge Cummins pickup with 400,000 miles. Looked into the bypass kits. They were to expensive. So I talked with some truckers and went on line and found an oil filter with the bypass filter built in. The filter is a baldwin 7317 for a 2001 Cummins. I change my oil every 5000 miles. The oil is dirty but not full of soot.I hope this helps you and others out there. Take good care. Yours Bill
Send me pictures
I have had oil bypass filter in my truck for the last three years works great I’ve got a Ford F250power stroke 2011 keeps the oil a lot cleaner when I am hauling boats around.
Chris, i have used a bypass filter on my f350 6.7l engine for the past four years, and I change my oil yearly now instead of bi-monthly. At $150 per oil change at the shop, and $80 per change doing it myself, my savings long term just in used oil are huge. Factor in a cleaner engine and longer expected life, I am very happy.
the by pass filter has to cables. where do they connect to? I m confused based on the video above.
@@tpfmike1976 there is a video ua-cam.com/video/cUdgyvRhFFQ/v-deo.html
@@tpfmike1976 One hose is going to connect to the stock oil filter in some way, depending on the vehicle brand. The Ford, as Gale showed in the video, has a spin on housing between the stock filter with a port for the bypass hose. Cummins has a port on top of the stock filter housing. Not sure about Duramax. That hose runs to the bypass filter. The return hose connects to the bypass filter and runs to the supplied oil filler cap.
I am an RV transporter with a 2019 DMax.
I already have a 120000 miles on the truck after 9 months. I think I need to get one of these So I can hopefully squeeze 700000 miles out of my D Max before Needing another
Good preventative maintenance is where it's at. Good oil, oil analysis, good fuel, a FASS or equivalent, and other simple maintenance makes a huge difference. If you buy your fuel in bulk at your home base, a fuel polishing unit, like from AXI would be a massive help, too.
Or...delete it! Solves the issue too, plus additional benefits.
you for sure should. if you have any questions 913-238-2760 www.amsoil.com/c/bypass-oil-filtration-systems-mounts/32/?zo=5293167
Honestly I have 3 duramax pickups all have 500k miles and more on them never had a bypass filter just change oil regularly, I generally believe in whatever banks is hustling but this in particular is a waste of money save the money your gonna blow on this and buy oil and filters to just do regular changes imo .
tony sloan If oil is changed regularly on a engine that’s not abused then life should be as you have experienced. Construction and race or just beat to hell does benefit from additional equipment. Lastly he’s a business man so pushing products keeps his doors open.
He certainly got more than he asked for, but he also gives more to us than we expect. He is truly a treasure to all gearheads
Been out of the country for about 20 yers, just got back and saw your channel. I had been using Amsoil DUAL bypass filter setup with filters that are about twice as long as the one you are showing. They were mounted in Chevy wreckers with 454's. So you had to use around 11 quarts for an oil change. Usually at 15,000 miles I would dump the engine filter and both bypass filters and add 3 or 4 quarts of oil, then at the next 15,000 I would do a complete oil change. Those 454's would outlast the trucks....usually putting on 100,000 + miles a year for 3 or 4 years. Oh yea I had been using this system since the 80's and the mounting kit you have is way nicer than what they had back then.
Mr Banks I have learned so much from your engineering. By far most impressive with that monster Duramax your playing with. I've deleted my LML and decided on the CAT oil filter upgrade and within 9000 miles on my first oil change it was just as clean when I put it in the crankcase. Unfortunately the EPA has made it so tuff for engines to keep up in these new years but,thank you for all your engineering and research. '13 DURAMAX LML full delete with 2" up-pipes and 3" down pipe, 5" exhaust and you guessed it. No muffler stock turbo and Injectors and compound turbo added with 3" air to air custom built by yours truly. 26 mpg highway and 17.2 running my hotshot trailer
These filters work I put one on my 2002 7.3 F250 and I was amazed how clean the oil stays and as a bonus I change oil once a year!
Try just changing filters instead?
There are two automotive engineers who have really earned my respect over the years. The first was the late great Smokey Yunick and the second is Gale Banks. I still recall something about a early 80's Trans Am with Banks turbo's putting down in the neighborhood of 700 hp. Having just come through the smog era of castrated cars, that caught my attention. Your use of Amsoil products gives me a confidence level in them that no other advertising could achieve. Having just purchased a vehicle with potential timing chain issues (GM LFX) lubrication is going to be my best defense against a major repair bill. Time for some research.
Ed Frawley -- Yes ! There are no other 2 guys that are absolute Genius - Smokey and Gale...
Thanks for the memories!
Joe Mondello
I love Amsoil, but I don't love their oil bypass system. I use an FS2500 oil bypass filter, and I had my local hydraulic shop rig up two high pressure lines for me. I take oil from a T-fitting (3/4" NC) piped from the oil pressure gauge and I return the oil through the oil plug port in the oil pan.
A few hours were spent bolting the system to my truck frame, and routing hoses and shielding, the finished system is wonderful.
I now change my oil yearly and it's still in great condition even at that.
I do not like returning oil through the filler cap.
I bought the vortex oil filter which is a bypass filter inside the standard filter from Baldwin for my 2005 Cummins RAM. And I made my own toilet paper bypass filter using an old Ford tractor filter housing. On the 5.9 Cummins, there is a second turbo oil return on the block next to the first one, Remove the plug and now you have a return path from an oil bypass setup. Oil to the bypass is from the top plug of the Cummins OEM filter head on the engine. I used 1/4 inch steel lines to plumb it and made a bracket so Ford housing sits above the exhaust manifold. The FORD housing is heavy gauge quality steel. For the Toilet paper roll to sit inside, I used a SS steamer vegetable strainer. Oil comes in the top side of the FORD housing, is filtered thru the paper and comes out the bottom of the housing. I also made a center brass tube with a small tin can inverted and soldered on its top as a collar to seal the Toilet paper roll to prevent oil from escaping past the TP roll. It was a DIY project for sure.
Actually, called a venturi filter. So I have 2 oil filter bypasses for finer filtering of oil. Anyone can easily get extra filtering using the Baldwin filter and Cummins has it's own version as well.
Part number is Baldwin BD7317 and Fleetguard Stratapore/Venturi LF9028
"Q: Does Cummins Filtration® offer Extended Service Lube Filters?
A: Yes, Cummins Filtration®'s 9000 series of patented Venturi, combination full flow/ by-pass filters are direct replacement for many OE filters. "
I've had one of these one my truck now for about 3-4 years. I just did an oil change after 20000kms and oil analysis still said I was good to go. These things are plain awesome.
Wow
I've seen customers go over 200,000 miles without a full oil change. Only filter changes and top offs.
TheTennesseeTittyTickler voow!. On point! 👌🏻
I tried every available synthetics available in market & settled with Mobil1 fully Synth. 10 year & I still use nothing else but Mobil1.
A timely oil change & some trust in Mobil1 works for me.😅😁🤘🏻
Who does oil analysis?
@@wilburdunn2552 Blackstone...
Love the Amsoil bypass system. They have 3 filter sizes up tp 1-1/2 qts. I had the 1/2 quart model like the one on this video. Then changed up to the 1-1/2qt. I preferred to increase the oil capacity, While adding the bypass.
They no longer sell the 90 or 100.
Years ago a famous radio person used his boats filters on his truck and they did a great job
Thank you for showing the Amsoil swag. It was fun. I am glad you all have fun as well as working hard.
Amsoil makes the best oil in the business. Proven over and over again by torture tests, real world in-vehicle testing and lab analysis.
Amsoil does make good products but in most vehicle applications the oil gets filled with dirt and contaminates long before the oil starts to break down. Even using conventional oil. Most of the type synthetic oil is a waste of money. Also gives people that false impression that they can safely do extended oil changes when it's actually causing damage and wear to the engine
The bypass filter mentioned filters down to 2 microns. It'll filter your whole entire oil system within 30 minutes of vehicle running. Then do it again over and over.
As for oil, I prefer Redline. They use a higher quality synthetic base to start with.
If you have doubts about the bypass filter system, you can send oil into the lab for testing. You just need to put a little valve in between the bypass return line to the engine. So you can get a sample. Send it along with a new oil sample. You'll be shocked
Very good to see you talk about the oldsmobiles
Company: Hello thankyou foe calling how may i help you?
Mr. Banks: hello my name is M...
Company: sir i am sending you all of our product's at no charge thankyou good by.
Mr. Banks: uhhhhhh...ok thanks.
edgar portillo I would be lucky to get. The decal!! LOL!!!!
I was thinking the same thing!! lol
Who is "M?"
Finally got around to installing one on our 2007 Honda Pilot... I don't own a diesel, but it can't hurt on a gas engine either! Needed a 1/8 BSPT fitting to tee off oil sending unit. Found one on Amazon made for feeding oil to a turbo. I documented the whole process in a few videos. Overkill? Maybe but I'd rather err toward overkill than neglect.
Document the RESULTS!!!
I worked for Hardin Marine during that time and was at the 9 hour enduro. It was a lot of work but the best time I’ve ever had racing boats in the desert!
Installed an oil bypass oil filter on my 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L Diesel in 2007, all I have to say is what a difference in the oil and you can see the difference when you pull the dipstick and look at the oil. There were not very many oil bypass filters available at that time with data to back them up and the information on what gets filtered and what does not. Since then and a believer and knowing that all the oil is not going through the filter, I have purchased an Amsoil bypass oil filter system for my son’s GM Diesel truck. Now we have a new believer. 👍👍👍. 12-20-21
Thank you, sir. No higher praise for a product than your approval, and I mean that sincerely.
So, if I order the bypass filter kit from Amsoil, do I also get the other boxes of free stuff?
🤣
I’d be happy just to get free a fridge magnet!
Lassi Kinnunen You’re half right.
northerniltree
NOPE😂😂😂😂
You’re not that special!!😂😂😂😂😂
For the $500 Amsoil has this listed at for all it is you should get all the extra stuff plus.
Take your oil sample from the drain when the oil is warm and take it roughly in the middle of the oil draining.
I've done multiple oil analysis on multiple vehicles for 20 years. There is no issue if you don't take the sample at the beginning or the end of the draining.
Sucking it out of the dipstick tube is not necessary.
I've been running amsoil filters in my vehicles for 20 years. I can highly recommend them. They're awesome.
Had an Amsoil bypass filter on a previous diesel truck. I liked it. I'd like to see you guys make an oil pre-luber and possibly incorporate a bypass filter into that. That would be a great set up for a long lasting truck. Gas or diesel.
Accusump, bro.
I run a centrifuge for my bypass system. It is nice to be able to easily open the filter and see the caked up soot to know that the filter is doing its job.
Mom's ol 81 rabbit diesel ran like a charm , that engine ended up living on in another car and after that I lost track.
At least they made a diesel that worked at a time GM was ruining the reputation.
Those were such headgasket killers though. I’ve changed about 200 of them, I can actually swap a head gasket on a diesel vw (pre 85) in less than 20 minutes.
GM bean counters ruined that diesel. Plus you had guys who never designed a diesel starting from scratch. Detroit Diesel might have been able to help but they only made 2-stokes at the time.
Could you imagine a screaming Detroit in you caddy....I can lol
@@farmerjackson709 Just slip a 6v71 in there and park it on the grass. Might be a touch nose heavy though.
@@michaelhelgeland4588 ...Back in those days, I had a neighbor that bought a new cadillac with the 350 diesel. He was sure it was the answer to long range car operation. The 350 V8 diesel was never up to the challenge. After many warrantied repairs, they gave up and switched it over to a gas 350 which (of course) included the entire fuel system. That car was never right, just a terrible idea. He and I still laugh about it all of the time!!
I just came on as an Amsoil dealer and absolutely love everything they make!
I ordered and then bought a brand new 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon several months ago. I ordered it with the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 with eTorque. I bought the Jeep with the idea in mind of off roading it and having lots of fun in it. Since I will be having the engine perform at times to its peak capabilities, as well as the entire power train system and vehicle as a whole, I will be running Amsoil in everything! But I also want to add one of those Amsoil bypass filters to it as well, for more oil filtration and to have an increase in the lifecycle of the oil, even though I change my engine oil once every 2,500 miles or so. That way I am running continuous new/fresh oil in the engine non stop, so it will help it last a lot longer than normal.
Bypass oil filtration is even a good idea on heavy duty use gasoline engines in light trucks. I installed a small inlet hole, 10 micron filer on my 1979 F-350 4x4 with a custom built 400M running a custom grind Comp cam; massaged heads, intake, & exhaust; & flat top pistons (KB177) in a decked block to achieve 10.8:1 compression. I was using it on the farm and pulling equipment around, large horse trailer, and a 35 foot flatbed at times. I mounted the filter head on the front of the left head & fed it from the pressure feed line above the stock oil filter & returned in directly to the oil pan. I used 15W40 oil & had samples analyzed at 3000 miles, 4500 miles and 6000 miles. I decided to do changes at 5000 miles instead of the 3000 I was using before, but could have extended them further if I really wanted to. Bypass oil filters do an amazing job..
Works with any oil. Gas or diesel. Clean oil is king. You're only draining a few PSI off of the flow a oil pressure. In this video Gale says you don't think it would be needed for a gas engine.
If you run a catch can on a V8 and watch what contaminants it captures in only five thousand miles. Oh, you'll see what I mean. The bypass filter does not replace your normal filter. It's only enhanced cleaning at much finer degree. 2 microns. That's pretty amazing. The system drizzles the cleaned, nearly fresh
Oil back through the oil fill cap.
I have one friend that uses it on his
Sandrail with an LS.
If you're worried about the loss of a few PSI, you can have an 2 AN fittings (in & out) to your oil pan with an electric pump.
We have a diesel generator with over 10,000 hours on it! We have used dual Amsoil bypass filters it’s entire life. The oil is changed once a year. So 18 years of zero mechanical issues whatsoever. Just fuel filters and air filters! I am a believer in Amsoil bypass filter systems!
How dare you show me something that I desperately want now🤣😭🤣
Very interesting. Frantz has been doing bypass filtration for decades just as Gale said. We used to put them on farm & commercial tractor engines. They used a cheap single ply roll of toilet paper as the filter element. Really. They still make a bypass filter system but have much more technology in their filter elements. Summit racing even sells them. I am going to check these Amsoil systems out.
Have the duel bypass kit on my LBZ Duramax no complaints after 4 years another great video explanation Gale👍👍
I have the duel bypass kit on my LB7 2001 for over 10 years 193000 miles ,Easy install Ams oil is the best👍👍👍
I was wondering when you were finally going to show the Amsoil By Pass filtration system. I have been using one on my vehicles since 1986. Amazing how your diesel engine oil will look and be cleaner than gasoline engine oil without a by pass system.
TheTennesseeTittyTickler Sounds like you don’t understand how a lubrication circuit functions.....
Nothing but respect for Mr Banks. Heck anybody that can go their life with the name Gale! I was hoping for some test results for the bypass system
Many of his customers think of him as Mr. Gale “Force” Banks
Great info, never knew about this system! I have a small diesel pickup and what I do is change the oil every 3k miles with semi synthetic oil and OEM filters, 230k miles and still going strong!
I've been running AMSOIL products for 45 years and can attest to its quality' I run the bypass filter system on my '89 Mustang LX5.0 when I replaced the engine with a GT 40, My commute was 200 mi daily. 650k miles on it before it blew a head gasket with only 4 oil changes on AMSOIL 20-50 racing oil. I have pictures of the inside of all the cylinders, hone cross hatching is still prominently visible and less than .002 out of round. The Stang has 965K on the chassis and has the original diff! I run their products in all of my fleet, 2- F250 6.7L diesels, 2.4L Ranger, '22 Maverick ,'11 Flex, '90 Bronco ii, and '41 Dodge Powerwagon with the original Stang engine in it.
Gale what is interesting is Amsoil is offering something that Luberefiner has been doing for fifty years in big diesels! I remember a ships captain asking me what I thought about Amsoil when it first appeared on the market. My reply was the same thirty years later when asked about GMs introducing a diesel to the auto industry. The John Q public ain't ready for extended oil changes or diesels!!! Don't miss interpret what I'm saying you know as well as I diesels are the most efficient internal combustion engine produced; and when it comes to my oil preference the best bang for the BUCK to me is Rotella T6 5w40 synthetic!!!
And as for that stuff you keep calling soot you know as well as I it is unburned crystals of fuel. And as for regen system it's a glorified catalytic converter for a diesel that on regen heats to over 1,000 degrees!!! THANKS EPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you improve combustion efficiency you get less soot.
We bond a lubricant to the metal and reduce soot by up to 100% in some engines.
We still use a high efficiency oil filter as well... but we use a cheaper and simpler spin on filter (Trasko)... which works just as well as the Amsoil filter.
🙂
I am a retired mechanic in Alaska. I can tell you that an engine oil pre-luber, amsoil oil and an amsoil by-pass filter system is the way to go in frozen climates. Diesel or Gas.
As you said these have been available for decades. The ones I saw 40 odd years ago were a stack of flat filter papers compressed axially and fed from the centre outwards. They were intended for petrol engines too.
VW have been experimenting more recently with centrifugal by-pass filters running at very high speed and these take all the particulated out of the oil. But with the next big thing being electric and diesel being out of favour in Europe, particularly after dieselgate, it will never get developed for mainstream use.
The centrifugal filters work, but they take power to run them. This pretty much cancels their use in production cars because it would require more parts, more assembly line work, a section in the owner's manual, warranty, a mileage drop (a definite no no), a drive mechanism from the engine and mounting space. This is why you rarely see a simple bypass filter on a factory production car, much less a more involved system.
1990 I installed a 12" Ams oil by pass 2 micron oil filter, I used European slightly flexible nylon that was externally covered it returned the oil to the upper part of the oil pan and I tapped into the py pass oil sensor and mounted the 12" filter to the body everything was simple other than removing the oil pan and brased in the female 1/8" tapered thread which worked all those years without any problems? I would emagine that the by passs filter would last for 30,000 miles as it was hugh about 4" in diameter and roughly 12" long? It only took a few hours to do everything needed? Back in the days when mechanics could do their own design along with dual electiric diesel filters and twin switches if one CARTER electric pump quit working (it never failed) WOPEE!
Just installed a bypass system on my 2000 dodge 5.9 compound turbo Cummins. Works phenomenal!
I like how you have highlighted the diesel SOOT concentration’s in the oil. Removing the soot and other contaminant’s from the engine oil is critical for engine longevity. Is there a way of increasing the amount of sump oil being cleaned by the secondary filter( or similar) you installed? Also is there a reason why the secondary filter cleaned oil filter couldn’t go into the tops of the rocker cover( cover’s) ?
The increase in oil flow to the top of the motor would be beneficial to the rocker’s / cam’s etc.People also use catch cans to catch the oil residue , before it is carried to the EGR and block everything downline( manifold etc). I have always bought petrol vehicles in the past. A couple of years ago I bought a VW (2008)crewcab transporter tray truck, it had a 5 cylinder (2.4) turbo diesel. It was a great truck to drive, but the soot was gradually building up in the EGR , manifolds and DPF. I had very little trouble apart from the Turbo oil seal leaking, but the thought of the soot eventually destroying the motor was too much for me so I got rid of it after 2 years.The economy and power this little truck had , is making me think about getting another diesel turbo, so I can put a 9 foot long tray to accommodate a slide on camper. If you can recommend another secondary filter with a lot flow (volume ), it would mean a bigger decrease in the amount of soot going through all the motor components. Any additional information on keeping the soot out of the motor oil and consequently reducing excessive wear in the motor. Sorry for the LONG Question, but I have real concerns about buying a newish diesel vehicle and wondering when everything is going to CLOG UP or DESTROY THE motor!! Cheer’s AUSSIE MICK .
Schaeffer’s Neutra cleaner additive. Can be use on gasoline ⛽️, diesel, and inside the crankcase for flush maintenance (1 once per quart of oil). For the Diesel tank 0.39 once per gallon of Diesel. Same for gasoline.
Reminds me of my 1984 vw jetta diesel. Flat tappet design (no wear issues), but HUGE oil filter for the size of the engine. Now I know why that filter was so big!
Wow. I had many years ago. String Bean was a character on Hee Haw. His 1974 Olds Delta 88 had the Rocket 455 that we obtained. Wow what a car.
Absolutely made my day. Raining here in Ga. Mr. Banks is an absolute breath of fresh air!!! Keep doing you sir!!! Best wishes to the Misses!!! 😎😎
I really want the banks differential cover for my 2004.5 Chevy duramax. It’s Definitely the best cover ever engineered and I’m saving to buy one as soon as I get the extra money!!
I'm waiting for a cover for my Tundra. It's reported to be in the works...fingers crossed!
Mr. Banks, your explanations are SO DANG THOROUGH‼️😉🤓
I remember when I was about 10 years old my Dad had a 1978 Chevrolet short bed truck and my dad was working Nuclear Plant shut downs when they were building all of Nuclear Plants. This was back around the early and mid 1980's when my dad worked with a company called Daniels I believe when this Nuclear Plant construction was happening. Anyways my dad was making crazy money back then. I believe he made $35 to $40 an hour and was working 80 plus hours a week and he is a gearhead. We were living in Illinois and there was a very well known machine/speedshop around the Decatur/Cisco area. My dad had a balanced and blueprinted SBC 383 stroker built and stuffed it in the 78 Chevrolet truck and the engine builder talked my dad into installing an AMSOIL remote mounted oil filtration system on the firewall. It was a big canister that held a little more than a quart of oil and had an element inside that could be purchased so you could change it. Man that engine had loads of torque and would haul ass. He used the truck as our primary vehicle for about 8 years pulling boats, hauling firewood, watermelons and I mean you name it. It was our only vehicle. Finally after about 8 years ( Now I'm 18 years old and getting into racing myself ) the engine blew a head gasket between the cylinders so it had a misfire but no water and oil got mixed together. Well we tore that engine apart and I would say it had roughly 100,000 miles on it. I couldn't believe my eyes at how clean the inside of that engine was. No sludge whatsoever ( Man I wish we would've taken pictures). The cylinders had absolutely no wear lip/ridge in them. Sounds crazy I could not believe it ( The inside of the motor looked like it just came out of the Hot Tank in the machine shop. ) That sold me on AMSOIL products for life. You guys know alot of these products nowadays are just a waste. I mean you can change your oil every 3,000 miles and it will be pretty clean but there will be a good amount of sludge after 100,000 miles. The engine was so clean you could eat out of it. AMSOIL IS THE REAL DEAL. I know it sounds like I'm a commercial but it was awesome to see how good that AMSOIL remote oil filtration system really worked.
I put a Banks turbo on a 6.2 GMC back in the early 80's. Turned the fuel up 30% as in the instructions. It would smoke the tires. Never had any problems. It made the truck.
Run ams oil in my 17 f250 it’s deleted but still fixing to add this setup. It’s expensive upfront but you can get usually twice the extended intervals or more. Have a friend who hotshots and has these in three truck lab recommendations for oil change interval 27k he does it at 25k that’s 5 times the severe interval called for by Ford. He does use ams oil it’s a 250 dollar oil change. The kits and the labor to install pay for itself in no time. Not mention the time you gain back not having to change oil every 5k. And not changing your oil in a modern diesel every 5k is not smart. New engines are 20-22k plus labor and shop fees and shipping and cost of a rental so might as well call 25-30k the kit is 500 bucks the hell with it.
Listening to Gail Banks drinking coffee...I have made it!
Thanks Banks!
Those amsoil magnets make the refrigerator run more efficient and cooler
Haha, probably true!
I have a 04 GM LB7 when the injectors failed it was producing a lot of black smoke and the oil was as black as coal in a thousand k or 600 miles after replacing the injectors it ran so clean after 10 thousand k or 6000 miles the oil was as clean as it was when it was changed so I agree with Gale if you have smoke going out of the engine you will have black oil. Those bypass filters have been around for a long time on Cummings and Detroit diesels as well as refer engines and continuous running natural gas engines. They do a great job of extending the oil change intervals
Awesome history, thanks for sharing Sir Banks.
Great video and great information. I use one of them vampire pumps at work for oil testing and a little trick I learn is the same tube doesn’t like to get where you want it too and turns on it inside. I took and twisted up a knot with my welper pliers a T.I.G. Welding fill rod 307L 1/16” diameter. The knot is between the oil that helps hold the tubing to the vampire pump and the pump housing. The rig rod lets it move and flex but keeps it to a known level. I have huge gearbox’s to test and they only have a fill hole and with running gears that tube will get in between the teeth but with the tig rod you can aim it to get the tip to the correct level for testing.
30 years ago I installed a by pass filter to my Diesel Passat. Its filter was a toilet role. It held the role in a tapered canister, oil was fed to the wide end through to the narrow. Oil didn't just pass through the medium once but hundreds of times before it emerged out of the filter can.
Gale, we need updates of the oil analysis after the bypass kit install, as well as the refrigerator magnets.
Another great video Sir. Thank you for your explanation and not insulting our intelligence.
I don't think you know how serious people take your opinions Mr banks. I really appreciate your technical knowledge videos they are always great learning experiences.
I use heavy duty metal protector on every new car I buy. I live in Michigan they like to use a lot of salt on the roads early spring and early fall you can end up with salt on the car and places you don't want it. So I use amsoil metal protector to protect all my fuel lines brake lines pinch welds and more. Matter of fact I still have the car I got in high school what's the original fuel and brake lines on it caught in an amsoil MP. Everybody says quad 4 is junk, when I run 12 lb of boost and 5W-30 and get roughly a hundred thousand miles out of every 425hp build.
I had an old Delta 88 with a 5.7 Diesel. Had was the optimal word, because as he said, it was a piece of junk. the previous owner didn't know anything about the head gaskets or anything, because she complained about it constantly overheating and not running properly even when it wasn't overheating. We ripped that engine out and replaced it with a 5.7/350cu in and never looked back. Talk about a sleeper, we tucked the dual tips just behind the rear bumper so you had to look really close to see the bottoms of the pipes just below the bottom of the bumper. Groceries were delivered quite rapidly in that beast.
Would like to see the dual bypass kit installed video!
That's what I was expecting.
It’s like Christmas for men that like Diesel engines.
Exactly.
As a hobby hotrodder from the 80s.....I'm a fanboy...this man is a legend !
Like watching your hard working honor student brother at Christmas, open the best presents when you’re just squeezing by with C-,or D+, grades while grounded for being suspended and are lucky you even got some cool clothes, but still happy for your brother
Except my brother was never happy for me. 😢
Dixie Chopper used to put Amsoil bypass filters on their mower engines (Kohler) from the factory. I have a 2003 Dixie Chopper with a Kohler 28 hp engine on it and the Amsoil bypass filter. It runs great and has almost 3,000 hours on it.
Very interesting, I would have imagined it would use a centrifugal oil filter to remove the particles but this is pretty awesome you don't even need that kind of setup. I think I'm gonna get one of these from my 7.3 idi, Due to the natural ring gap and soot issues. I hope to meet Gale one day at a show also!
Who remembers the old engine oil bypass filtration systems that used a role of toilet paper for its filter?
Terrible system as the oil channels through the weakest point and then you get no filtration.
The actual filters you we’re supposed to use were just replaced with toilet paper. But really when using the correct filter it was top notch
old Chevy stovebolt with no oilfilter, helped. that same filter is still around, works great in paint booth for me and on Plasma torch.
Gale Banks smiling like a kid when he unboxes your product is all the advertising you'd ever need.
it's interesting, I've worked on very large tunnel boring machines that have a huge bearing with a oil bath, and on some we've added a particle counter system that periodically pumps some oil thru it and takes a reading, then pumps some clean oil from a container to flush it in between test, mind you the oil tank is 220gallons so a little bit of new oil doesn't affect the oil level but the interesting thing is the system is under 2k, and tells you what the oil is doing, it can even tell you if you're having a failure if there's a sudden jump in particulates, I wonder if the production level increased into the hundred thousand piece range if the price would come down to make is useful in the truck market.
Mercedes Benz stopped importing Diesel engines in 1987 because there was no low sulfur fuel available to meet California emissions standards. It was still a very popular engine. Despite the problems that they had with Trap-Oxidizers in '84, "85 & 86. (I might be off by a year or 2, I'm old.)
FYI; If you own a 1985 M-B diesel, Mercedes will replace the Trap forever. 1984 was the regular warranty period and they limited the warranty period to 5 years, 250K mi for '86. Even though the parts were identical, but with different part numbers.
I know this is an old video, but if this post saves an engine, all is good. I ran the remote oil filter/bypass filter (it's a combo affair, two cartridges and Amsoil branded). This setup ate two engines from oil starvation before we traced the problem to that unit.
So this was not a direct connection at the regular oil filter connection?
This was a remote connection somewhere else?
How did it starve the oil?
I can guess there must be more oil needed to account for the oil in the bypass.
@matthewk6731 not certain I entirely understand your question. But the unit in question is directly mounted to the factory oil filter fixture. Yes, additional oil is used to make up the volume of the extra bypass filter (which is quite large- perhaps an extra 1.5 quarts is used). The correct oil level is maintained by the dipstick. These units made by Amsoil were determined at some point to be defective and they changed build. They did not reimburse for the engine damage (even though they have a warranty against it)
You bless the world with each video. I don't know if/how this might apply to diesel engines, but can you talk about catch can setups?
Friend laughs that I am OCD - I drain oil over night and fill oil cartridge with oil before screwing it onto thengine block.
A bit extreme, but we get it. Perfectionism is in our DNA as well.
I do that also!! I have the time to let it drain for days if needed... And I also always put oil in the filter, the day I start draining the oil, and a little at a time, add more new oil to the filter... It takes a bit for the oil to soak all the way into the pleats, so the longer you slowly fill it, the more full it will be when you install it... Just do this -- weigh the used oil filter you remove, trying not to spill the oil out of it... It holds a lot of oil... There you have it !!!
Good idea ! I never thought of it like that. Cheers @@frandanco6289
Enjoy him guys and girls, this man is a living legend.
Spoken like a true prodigy.
How to troll your wife with magnets...
I have been using a similar spin on high efficiency Trasko filter for years... and it provides the same results as a full bypass filter without the extra plumbing and complexity.
Both microscopy and oil analysis show it filters to 2 micron or less.
It is challenging fitting a full bypass filter in a modern car where there is very little space.
The price of a bypass filter puts off a lot of people:
A high efficiency spin on filter is significantly cheaper than a full bypass filter.
Been running these high efficiency filters for 4M km or more without problems e.g. AKT filters in Australia (a long time ago).
Pity someone doesn't offer a fitting service for bypass filters.
That might make them a bit more popular?
This guy is an honest to god living legend! He will tell you how it is and he's right!
iv been using frantz bypass filters on all my and my customers cars since they were scotts toilet paper and the difference is like night and day when ever i pull a valve cover its like a 20k engine
If memory serves me correctly, early V-12 Ferrari streetcars came using a full flow AND a bypass filter as original equipment.
I'm always impressed and appreciative of the expertise of Mr. Banks. Thank you, Sir. However there is one statement made around frame 5.25 that I think is not so true. He stated most oil filters are efficient at around 20 microns . There is one common, full-flow, off-the-shelf oil filter, interchangeable with the common 51515 oil filter that has a 5 micron nominal rating and flows 10 gpm at only 3 psi. The filter holds 32.4 grams of contaminants in 463.1 sq in of filtering material. That filter is the Baldwin B7311-MPG oil filter. When I got my first IH truck in 2013 I could not find anything definitive as to what oil filter was best for that truck's engine. So I did a very exhaustive research on over 300 Wix and Baldwin oil filters. Many hours were spent pouring over technical specifications , plotting beta ratio graphs and on the phone with Wix and Baldwin technical support. In the end I list in two tables the very best Wix and Baldwin oil filters based only on technical specifications. The tables can be found near the bottom of page 2 of this IH forum post:
forums.ihpartsamerica.com/threads/are-there-different-grades-of-wix-oil-filters.4022/page-2
I now use this filter in all my IH and Ford trucks and I could not be happier with this filter's performance. It actually feels like (unproven opinion) because of the flow-ability and less parasitic drag that my engines have a bit more power especially on the very cold, below-freezing mornings. I suggest if you have the time, read the entire page 2 of that forum post.
I just read your postings which your link connects to.
Sir, I have never encountered anyone who is more deserving of gratitude for the extensive work you've done, and your generosity to share it.
THANK YOU!!!
I put an FS2500 bypass on my 2005 2500hd GMC and only used full synthetic oils and I pull an oil sample out every 15k. My maintenance schedule is to still replace the full flow filter and bypass filter at the specified interval, ( replace the ~2qt lost with the filters) and continue to run the oil. I usually drain at 20k, but the oil analysis says the oil is still well below the recommended soot contamination, additive life and no contamination or "wear metals" (iron, copper, ect). I HIGHLY recommend you install a bypass filter on your diesel engine, regardless of application as soon as you take possession of it. The sooner the better.