Homage, Fake, and Replica Watches (Lawsuits, Industry Examples, & My Opinion)
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2019
- In this video, we discuss the controversial subject of homage watches and replica watches.
So I actually have talked about homage watches in the past, however, I wanted to revisit it since it was one of the first videos that I made on my channel and I think it is a very important topic to talk about.
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There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals
That is an AAA China watch. it cannot be compared to Ziarex watches because they sell real super clones, basically the same watches as the originals.
Waited one year for mine
This is a super Datejust. It really stands out in every situation
Im here for grown men crying about how life isnt fair
Fluted on jubilee with that face, 36mm. It’s a wonderful everyday piece
I am waiting for this exact one from my AD.
Cancel ziarex and their mega clone watches. Dealers are selling them as originals, and we are losing a lot.
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I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.
impressive
We need to stop criminals like ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
Replicas are meant to deceive, homage are not. Homage watches are giving you style and quality without the absurd price point.
You can homage the heck out of a watch but it's still an homage and never look or feel the same
@@LVK15926951 If you can't afford the original them it's a moot point, why not let people enjoy what they enjoy without judging them.
Homage watches are legally acceptable unless of course you get a lawsuit filed against you for using somebody elses's design. Replicas (no matter how good or bad they are) are replicas, they have the whole trademark reproduction as well.
Well Said
@@LVK15926951 You can replicate a watch, but it is fake and it supports theft at the end of the day - and even if no one else knows, you certainly do. It would make me feel cheap and dirty, but not all are the same I guess.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
If a replica Rolex can be had for a fraction of the cost and it's getting that difficult to tell apart from the real thing, it really makes you wonder if Rolex is good value for money.
John Chen From what Rolex charges you would think that they are impossible to replicate
You just have to look closely. Rolex is still hundreds of miles ahead of the replicas when it comes to quality and details
@@franek.kedziorek you have to look very, very,.. very closely. Lol
It is because you won't lose any money buying one new. But a good value for money watch to wear is something with a well regulated ETA 2824 or sw200 like a Breitling Colt or Maurice lacroix aikon
Horrible value. Just buy another quality brand for less like grand seiko, tag heuer, Longines, Tissot.
You call that a super clone? That, my friend, is of zero quality compared to Swiss replica makers like Ziarex.
That is laughable when compared to ziarexs authentic super clones. You might as well be comparing a toy to original watch.
Homage watches are perfectly fine as long as they have their own unique feature or improvement and don't rip off the consumer quality wise.
I have ziarex replica watch, and when I see this video, I cant help but cringe. Theres no comparison to be made, its like a toy watch competing against a original.
Better a real Seiko than a fake Rolex.
Unless you want a fake Rolex and not a real Seiko
Best a Rolex, let's face it, every other brand is n homage ( sports models ).
@Truthfears Guilty. Ok Mr. Guilty, what's not Real about Rolex. Inquiring minds would love to know.
@Truthfears Guilty. You're not very clear on where you stand. I think you mean and let me know if I'm wrong, you dislike genuine Rolex because they are counterfeited and the fake watches are worn by the criminal element. I guess even criminals have good taste albeit misguided and against the law.
How about a real Seiko nodded to look like a Rolex? Lol
Lets talk about serial numbers. Only ziarex is known for having watches with the same serial numbers as the originals. The rest? Mere pretenders.
I bought my watch from Ziarex, and the quality in this video is bad.
I only buy homage watches and could stare at them for hours.
I'm alone in my enthusiasm, so no in-person watch people to impress. I love to do my own refinements, mix and match parts, get into the 'watch-making' aspect.
Buying homages with potential isn't easy and I've learned to really appreciate details.
Seems like cheap homages done well are a kind of cheat and something that shouldn't exist, but they hold my interest a long time.
Through my cheap hobby, I learned I'm an Omega guy.
Also learned I love Tudor a lot and have different iterations of BlackBay homages.
I support your view 100%.
I'm much more casual. I have a collection of 4 watches for a total price under $1,000. And I love my watches :) I found out 2 of them are "homage" watches. I stare at them a lot.
Mega-clone sellers like ziarex must be in jail because they sell watches with identical serial numbers as original watches, which is illegal.
Replica (fake) watches is clear, homage I think like you as far they are good quality, good value and ad something original they are ok with me! Nicely done!
Thanks for watching as always Francisco! Appreciate your support on all fronts. Agree with you here!
There are homage watches that perform on par with the original design houses. While I acknowledge that watches like , Rolex, are amazing , I still believe they don't cost all that money they sell for. Soon enough the Chinese will give them a hard bone to chew as they are producing some great watches ,like Phoibos ,without you need to be going broke.
@@marioaquilina248 Phoibos is always supplying good options. I wear them as dayly beaters.
My Steinhart get tons of compliments. I realize it looks like a submariner and that it is a Rolex homage however if someone asks me if it is a Rolex I gladly say "no, its a Steinhart". Still a good watch at a fair price that also looks great. And I didn't have to empty my retirement account to buy it.
Bought a Steinhart yesterday. Can't wait to get it delivered. What a stunning value, ceramic bezel, 300 m WR, beautiful bracelet, AND! 39 mm, finally a smaller size!
Love my Steinhart ocean 1 vintage gmt, they don’t make the original Rolex explorer ll and it’s become their #1 selling watch. I love it ⏱😎 I could never afford the original.
I see that to be the exact point of the conversation. Homage watches are the real deal.
Excellent video. First, especially in the area of intellectual property, courts often don't have a clue (I'm an attorney). The AP case you mention could just as easily been decided against AP. And it's worth mentioning that in a given industry (i.e., watches, cars, cameras), the greatest innovations regularly come from the companies who not only 'imitate', but improve a product in the process. In a competitive free market, that's actually what's supposed to occur. When Honda (Acura) and Toyota (Infiniti) entered the luxury sedan market, the companies they were 'imitating' (i.e. Mercedes, BMW) were forced back to the drawing board to create an even better product. Ideally, the innovations and increased choice creates a win/win scenario for us as consumers.
Thanks for this excellent analysis! I wish I could have phoned in an attorney like you to add more context during the video haha.
I can't believe that case was decided in AP's favor. I'm no attorney and didn't read any details about it, but based on the pictures, the watches look completely different other than the octagonal shape of the bezel and the eight (stylistically different) screws.
Toyota (Lexus)... but I understand your point.
I own 4 watches, for a combined retailed price just under $1K, not much but I am thrilled with each one of them. I found out later that 2 of the 4 are homage watches (Jack Mason and Pascal brands). And both are beautiful and meet my needs. I cannot imagine the price I'd have to pay for the original, they would come out to more than $30K. I don't have any interest in acquiring these watches at that point.
Unbelievable, submariner store better than pics!
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About replica watches I live in Brazil, and criminality in São Paulo became a big thing, I don't feel safe wearing my original Calibre 16 around, so I thought on having a replica of it to use and only use the original in special occasions, just on safe purpose, it's just something that came to mind but I don't know, it's because I love the look of the calibre 16
I like the Pagani Design homage chronographs with Seiko VK63 movements as they keep good time, areade of good materials and have good level of finishing for the $75 to $150 price range. I could never afford an Omega or Rolex chronograph and the Pagani models have subtle differences such as added date windows or differing dial colors. Good video and agree about not buying fakes.
I gave my father a Pagani hulk
Teddy I discovered your content very recently and I find it amazing. Thanks for educating me on all these watch subjects, now I will build a decent and enjoyable watch collection.
i think homage watches are cool, especially if they are paying homages to really sought after vintage pieces. not everyone can drop money for a paul newman.
Well Said
Look at how hard it is to be original within the industry these days and come up with something new how many companies go back to " heritage" inspired models where they look like their 60s-70s iterations.
It really is hard to innovate on solely aesthetics alone nowadays. Especially considering the dollars to do it. I think brands have rested in complacency as well and are just doing what works given the current market
@@TeddyBaldassarre Exactly. Homages could have the positive effect that brands actually innovate... instead of just inserting a ceramic bezel and announcing it as the second coming of JC ;-)
It really is difficult to have a truly unique aesthetic. Pretty much everything you do will mirror what somebody made years ago.
Nice job Teddy. Starting to get more into your channel based on your consistent hard work and quality. Thank you.
There is no WAY I could afford a Rolex Submariner, and I hate fake watches, that is obviously something we should all be against. I bought an Invicta Pro Diver, which is a VERY similar style-wise to the Submariner, but it has a quality movement by Seiko, and it says Invicta EVERYWHERE. I am brand new to watches, pulled in surprisingly enough by smartwatches. I do not have a lot of money, and I expect my "collection" to have quite a few Seiko 5's in it, but it is nice to be able to get a watch that looks great, it's not a fake, but certainly has that style to it.
Agree with you, I have two Invicta Pro Diver watches and for the price with a good Seiko movement in them are really good value for money. Having Invicta stamped on the watch gives it its own identity so doesn't bother me one bit. You can buy two Invicta's for the price of one Seiko 5 and I have found the Invicta is a better watch.
May I ask how many Seiko 5 do you own? I'd be curious to see if you'd be ready to sell all of them and your Invicta in order to buy only one watch of greater quality. Simply food for thought.
Chris - Go for the Tisot Visodate (Black Dial), has a Swiss Movement, it's an all around classy watch. Jomashop.com has had them for under $400, they also have the Seiko SXK 007 which is much nicer than the Seiko 5 and is a must for a collector. Good Luck
@@louisfalise2839 I am brand new to all of this. I do not own any Seiko 5's right now. There are a couple that I want. The Seiko 5 Sports Silver Watch SRP481K1, and the SNK803. I take my time, the real reason I started looking at "real" watches is that I was looking at my smartwatch, realizing it cost over $200 and would be no good in a few years and I could probably spend that money wiser by getting a watch that would not become obsolete. As for selling a cheap collection to buy a dream watch. I think what I want to do, is have a few different style watches that are good, but not expensive, then maybe save up for one special watch, no idea what that would be.
I for one would rather buy a genuine/authentic 150$ Citizen than a 800$ rolex replica...
Man congrats on all the subs! You’re my favorite watch UA-camr for sure!
Another awesome video. I have to say that I was given a replica watch and I took it to a jeweler to size and he was in awe of how good it was. He told me that it was very convincing. I said, thanks & wore it for a while then it died... no big deal. I have several good homage watches that are from reputable brands and they are great pieces. I don't foresee me being in the market for a $25K presidential but my Croton works just as good. I think that people need to remember that each person has their own reason for owning a watch, either real, replica or homage & being judgmental is so 2018... LOL. Keep up the good work man!
I personally like Homage watches as it lets me size, try and experience the watch it pays homage to and helps me determine if I should save up for the real thing or try something else. Replicas are Illegal, period, those need to go away.
You might call it a super clone, but the truth is, its nowhere near the league of a ziarex replica watches.
Nice Vid Teddy. Very well made points. How do you feel about Brands Re-issuing old designs AKA Heritage? Lazy design or bringing back a popular or trendy design?
Love your channel! Quick question, are you required to cite any pictures you use in order to make ad revenue for you videos?
Great video! Excellent display of topic knowledge. Cheers!
Video suggestion: how do people react when they see you wearing a high-end watch? For example are people less understanding if you are late and are wearing a Rolex?
Great video buddy. I too don’t like the word replica. It feels like it gives some credibility to something that’s just fake.
Cheers,
Adrian
Thanks, Adrian! Agree with you on that. Gotta call a spade a spade and to not give credit to their voluntary manipulation.
Nicely researched video!
I really love your videos! I got a German speaking watch-channel myself and I take a lot of inspiration from you! Greetings from Austria 😊
So like an homage Baldassare 😂
I'm in love with your videos Teddy.. big up!
Fresh take on it. Good video as usual!
Video idea: Watches of golf! So many great post round watches, especially vintages.
Also... thank you for always including such clean images of the watches and so much info!!!
I like the idea Zach!
Great video Teddy! What do you think about Ingersoll?
I make my own rolex replicas out of cookie dough once a year,
but they never exist long enough for the feds to get me
Lol 😂😂
I don't quite understand everyone's hate towards homage watches (fake and replicas are horrible though), at the end of the day, it is not the same audience who is looking at these watches. someone isn't on the fence between a Rolex submariner or an Invicta pro diver. Rolex loses no money from having the Invicta pro diver exist. it only benefits the consumers who maybe can't drop thousands on a Rolex but want a similar style. As long as it is two different price points (i.e isn't taking money from the original manufacturer) and is clearly marketed as something else (i.e says 'Invicta pro diver' not 'Rolex submariner') who cares (ideally it adds its own flair too).
Help me understand how does Rolex lose money if I buy a replica and I know it's a replica ?
Kenneth Wimmers Rolex doesn’t but Rolex also doesn’t want you pretending to have their product when it’s not.
@@LVK15926951 It depends on the replica. Some people that make the fake replicas market them as the original and since people don't really know they will drop the thousands for that Rolex without knowing it's a replica. That takes away from Rolex because they didn't get paid for their intellectual property. As far as buying a cheap replica that you know is a replica, it is mostly unethical. It is first off illegal, and given that cheap replicas don't have great quality it could lead to a type of negative PR if someone sees this crappy watch with the Rolex branding.
Mvteyv I have zero hate for fake or homage. As long as the seller is honest about the watch being fake, by all means it’s fair game. Some people just can’t afford those over priced Rolex’s. I love Rolex but it’s marketing! They make great watches, but there’s so many other brands that are better in built and bang for buck.
Almost all watches are in some form or another inspired by the same few classic originals. But when it becomes so blatantly obvious as the Pro Diver example I think it's entirely to give impression of of Sub and I'd be rather surprised if Invicta is not supplying actual fakes since all they need is a slightly different dial bracelet logo. Something like Fifty Five Fathoms on the other hand is never going to look quite like the original and is only paying tribute to one of the most important classics.
Great video Teddy! Speaking about gray areas here’s an idea for a video: could you talk about Frankenwatches? Specifically ones that are sold on eBay to pass off as the real thing? I’ve been seeing a lot of “vintage” Seiko and Orient watches on eBay that are sold from India, and some of the parts on them seem very suspicious or ambiguous
What's the squareish gold watch on the poster in the background? I really like it
Can bloggers post more videos? I have fallen in love with you from the beginning of the video, you are so grounded, I swear I can listen to your conversation all day long💕💕
Honestly I have no problem with homage watches. Replica and fake watches are the same category to me personally. But homage watches if built right aren't a problem. Most people ( i.e the general working public) can not buy a Rolex, or don't want to spend thousands of dollars on a watch. For most people five hundred dollars is a lot for a watch. Us hobbyist are a different breed where we see that 7 k for a Rolex as justifiable.
Nicely done, with that being said I’m going to wear my Invicta Pro Diver today.😎
Thank you Teddy. A very clear and insightful approach to the topic. I would love to see how you address micro brands like Christopher Ward who are deviating from Homage with their Trident - so you define soft v hard homage?
I respect noob factory watches that are 1.1 because your getting pretty dam much the same thing just without the stupid price tag
Happy New Years Teddy. Was recently out of the country and encountered many replicas openly in the market place. The most convincing was the basic Explorer. Personally opposed to replicas, but the phenomena has not occurred in a vacuum and some blame falls on the hype and greed of the of the top tier. Who's shedding tiers for their bottom lines, lol. Human nature, let the masses have their cake. Hope you make it to LA. Best, JP
I only buy from swissarex
I always loved the look of the original Rolex Daytona and the thing that's always fascinated me about the "homage" debate is that the design and layout of the Daytona was based strongly on the original Omega Speedster. Does this then make the original Daytona a Speedster homage watch?
What you think about the Maurice Lacroix Aikon automatic with the blue dial? Is it a Hommage or unique enough? Sorry for my English I am German 😁
When a replica superreplica.watch that costs a tiny fraction of the original requires a professional to distinguish it from that original, it means that there really is not sufficient value in the original to justify its price. Ask yourself why no one can make a replica of a BMW or a Mercedes-Benz, yet there are plenty of replica Swiss watches out there
I just was in their shop and bought rolex submariner
nice place will come again
thx for everything
got my moissanite cartier gg
next time i will bring more money 2 good ICEEE
lovin this intro!
Excellent video Teddy. I share your sentiments.
What does your personal watch collection look like Teddy? Would love to see a video about that.
A good video with a great insight.
Great vid Teddy! I agree with you I think. I do not mind homage watches really, especially if the lower price variant made at least some attempt to be unique. Is my Spinnaker Hull watch a homage to a Panerai? Absolutely. But it’s also different enough to be its own. I also do not mind homage watches because I don’t think they’re stealing customers from the higher tier brands. Would I rather have a Panerai? Again, absolutely. But I didn’t buy the Spinnaker for a 1-for-1 replacement - I bought it because I love the style of Panerai watches but I’m never going to buy one unless my position changed radically, or for a number of years. So great points! But also yeah, replicas can GTFO.
Good take as well nick! Thanks for watching man.
You're right, if someone buys a Tissell, Rolex hasn't lost a Submariner sale. Besides, as pointed out, Timex, Seiko, etc. all have homage watches in their lineup. 'Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'.
I like the black and gold watch in the thumbnail. can you share a link...name or clearer image pls. thank you.
I have a friend that was passed down a Rolex Sub from his grandfather. However, he didn't like to wear it out during college for fear of losing it. So he got the Invicta watch that looked similar but obviously wouldn't hurt as much as losing as Rolex. These Replicas are also great for starting a collection, as I picked up a Seiko 5 for my brother to get his collection started. He is now becoming much more interested in watches and hopefully will buy his own nice watch soon!
For my inexperienced eye almost every diver with bezel that looks like Rolex Submariner looks like a homage watch. Even Orient Ray III, which I'm planning to get my hands on, as soon as it hits the stores in my country. And there's only handful of variations of dress watches you can make, so accidents are inevitable. So I don't have problem with those, unless it's exact replica with different logo. In China manufacturing price for any automatic replica is under 100 USD. so if you pay 500 for Rolex you get ripped off and have a trash on your wrist. For real deal you get ripped off, but you can wear it with pride. btw, manufacturing price for quartz fashion watch is under 2 USD.
Can the movement for the Invicta Pro Diver be replaced with something better? Then the sapphire (and then maybe the bezel) be replaced? So then a vastly better watch could be the result?
The biggest issue I have with replicas no matter how good they may get is that I would know it's a fake, and I think I'd feel like a fake person.
Yes; however, people who wear real luxury watches are often fake people
@@stevenjm12 Hahaha. Yes true
A mere watch doesn't measure a person's character though.
@@stevenjm12 No. Low class people who thinks expensive goods would change them in any way, might fit your description. People who are well off, well educated and has class do not fall into that category. Remember, money can't buy class.
@@JoJ0estar no, but it can reveal it.
The point at which a line is crossed is whether a fake/copy/homage watch is made with intent to deceive a purchaser that it is the genuine article.
Tudor can’t be a homage of Rolex as it’s owned by Rolex. It used to be Rolex’s B line, now it’s starting to develop an identity, although the Rolex influence is present.
+Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa Not totally true. Tudor is not owned by Rolex. However, Rolex and Tudor are both owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. 😊
Tudor=Rolex wannabe
@@ChrisH930S Wrong! Maybe when they were still using Rolex crowns and Rolex cases, but not lately. They are their own brand and very much has got their own identity.
Great video, very informative. Your pronunciation of homage is the correct English one!
Hahaha thank you. People are oddly weird about that pronunciation.
@@flyfishincrazy care to elaborate? It's a French word so pronounce it French.
alex tworkowski pronounce it as you want but educated people will see right through you
Ed Tollway its a french word? Lol look it up in a dictionary
alex tworkowski TWORKOWSKI!!!!!! Didn’t u quarterback for the Rams back in 76???
Please can somebody tell me, which is a good homage watch for the Omega Speedmaster?
Teddy I LOOOVE Your videos, ESPECIALLY your new INTRO, that background(although, the before one was better)
but there is a chance to make it even better, like:
1. Framing the camera, in a way where you could see more of you (like the whole torso), and
2. Also changing up the background music, because after the intro music it feels like a stark contrast.
Other wise, your videos are Super CRISPY.
Hope you consider this as a constructive criticism.😘
Hey man! Appreciate this. I am working on changing the background track as I agree completely. As far as the framing, I am kind of stuck given the layout of the room, as it is quite small, so in order to keep the mic, lights, and other eyesores of the room out, I need the shot to be a bit tighter.
instagram.com/moneycheetah7/ Who else watching this so they know what to look for when buying a good fake 😂 Two weeks, three videos and we still don't know anything about you. It's not every day that a new channel is so refined and well prepared with knowledge and access to watches and this makes it very interesting. How, about a bilated introduction video about yourself and the channel?
Great video
Please review a Marcello C nettuno 3 swiss made watch..i think its a good watch...i want to know what you think about the watch..thanks
I agree that homage watches are great for giving people without mountains of money access to the great designs high end brands provide. I generally prefer a lot of more original designs, but homages are generally not bad unless you get companies like Hublot making Royal Oak like watches.
I don’t mess with fake watches though. It’s just not right to try to pass off a fake when I’d rather show up with a really nice original design that isn’t pretending to be something it isn’t.
I agree with you! Thanks for the comment and watching Kris!
Hum-ahge, Oh-mahge = Puh-tay-tah, Pah-tah-toe. Enjoyed your vid Theodoro!
Homage watches are ok with me. To me it’s showing respect by making a homage watch. Not everyone can afford $8250.00 for Rolex sub or they don’t want to spend that amount.
Can you make a video on rotary Watches, I have one and I love it but I would like to see your opinion on the brand
Great video. I have an idea for a video. After my father passed away and my mother gave me his Seiko 17 jewels automatic. This Swatch holds sentimental value to me, I remember as a kid my mother giving it to him for Christmas and father wore that watch every day of for the next 30 years or so.
But the now the watch is in bad
shape. I love this watch and would be honored to wear it in memory of my father. So, my idea for a video it's a simple question how should one go about to repair and or restore old watches?
Every month I make a fake Rolex out of dog treats. But every time the police come the dogs just eat the watch.
I agree with your comments. I personally own many Homage watches from a brand that over values their watches and then sells them way more cheaply because I love the look of the Submariner, but cannot afford one. For less than $100 at a time, I can get all the variety of features that I want. I do not act like I own an original, but enjoy wearing the look. Love all of your videos.
Love the vid.
Very interesting topic.
Thanks Vic! Appreciate you tuning in
Teddy Baldassarre thanks for the reply. Regards from 🇵🇦 Panama
Is there wait list for replica steel Rolex?
You are the most honest and intelligent watch reviewer. Congratulations.
I would love to launch a microbrand via some form of crowdfunding. I had no idea about "trade dress"- good to know.
I would definitely do your own research or talk to a lawyer about it. From my research it seems like most brands don’t bother with prosecuting even if it essentially a copy of design, that said, there are cases.
Dig your final take on the subject and I feel the same way about music.
would love a video of great, affordable, automatic watches. new to watch collecting and looking to buy first automatic.
Hi Teddy. Love your videos. I got the call from my AD in November and purchased the two toned Bluesy Sub. I’ve always loved this watch. I also bought the Invicta copy and here’s why. I’ve read that in some restaurants and other places, there are spotters. So, I wear my Rolex in the restaurant and before I leave, I go to the bathroom and switch to my Invicta. If anyone demands the watch on my wrist I will happily give them the copy and make the spotter look like a jerk.
Trade dress only applies in some countries, and it varies between them, as each one has its particular Trade dress law. In US, Trade dress rights are enforceable under both state and federal
law, but typically, holders of these rights look to the Lanham Act as a source of protection. But it doesn´t applies to chinese homages, because they aren´t made, physically sold, or a constituted brand in US. However, chinese do sell them in the US through ali express page, and selling them is constituted an act of unfair competition. Fair use wouldn´t apply for them as a defense. But also, the design isn´t identical, and they stand out as their own brand, so it is not trademark infringement either. Trade dress focuses on the "looks". Also, Practical functions are Intellectual Property Rights, not Trade dress. I think the World Trade Organization hasn´t put guidelines in Trade dress yet. Swiss Legend is a US watch distributor, and must be subject to the laws of the United States. On the other hand, the Chinese are not. But US federal trademark law also includes online sales. "Infringing goods" are the key words. "Infringing goods" should include Trade dress goods. In US legislation, marketing or promoting infringing goods on a website creates liability for trademark infringement. In europe, the Court of Justice of the EU discussed that the trademark owner has the right to prohibit others from offering "infringing goods", putting them on the market or stocking them for the purposes of sale, under the EU Trademark Regulation. In real life, what will happen with homages watches? Ali express is gonna be banned? there are many reasons why not; some of them may say it is even unconstitutional. But as it is a kind of unfair competition, they can raise tarifs, but then again, that has political implications; we are dealing with china here, hello...
what do u think of a brietling navi and a sinn 903? i'll be happy to go with sinn 903 as they are beauitfully made and for the size.
A perfect example of a homage done right!
That’s exactly what I mean. Even with a great product(better quality when compared with a 41mm brietling). It can’t escape its fate as a knockoff. Like an illegal child, it can’t escape from the shadow of the holy brietling navi which can be quite unfair for sinn for the outstanding job they have done.
done right but living in the states that watch probably needs to get shipped to Germany for service which a major negative.
Well, there are some "homages" that cross the line which are essentially replica/"fake" watches that have had the brand name altered. Many are even made in the same factories as the fakes.
Teddy what do you think about Phoibos or Tissel?
I hope Swiss Legend appealed that case. That decision was ridiculous. That court is basically saying AP owns the intellectual property rights to the octagonal shape.
Do a review on the parnis brand they have so many collection
Homage watches are for some people and that is fine, as it should be. Great Video Teddy
AP also sued a small Swiss watch Company called Alfred Hammel for having a similar logo. I found out about this a few yrs ago from a local jeweler who had these Alfred Hammel watches in a display case.
Video Idea: "Small" and thin gmt watches