Love it, man! Very helpful and you are sounding great as always. Loopy Pro can seem overwhelming, but hearing what you do with four simple loops is inspiring. Thanks!
@@JoshElliottMusic Ditto X4, Boss Loop Station and inbuilt modeller loopers. The customization of Loopy Pro is phenomenal. I've made my own template based on your video and just been using the slide over function for iPad Pro to add in samples and drum pads from other apps. Works really well without having to do anything too complex just yet!
Hi Josh, you are so far the most clear teacher i found about loopy pro! I would really love to have your template about this setting even if i on ly have a 4 pedals irig blueboard but i guess it would really help me quite a lot to get started, thanks a lot!
Josh! THANK YOU!!! This is the most informative, clear and succinct video I've seen for guitarists wanting to use Loopy Pro. Just this AM I finally started successfully creating a template similar to the Aeros looper. (Which I will soon be selling). This video helped me understand how to set up my Morningstar MC6. Again thanks so much.
The MC8 is a bit of a different animal. You need “looper mode” engaged on the Rec buttons but not the stop buttons. I hadn’t been successful getting long press to work for clear. Hopefully you can get that figured out!
wow! That was a nice tutorial. Very clear and video quality great. I like your advice on keeping things simple, I have only been using loopy pro for a few weeks and it can waste a lot of time if you try to get too creative at first. Thanks
Thank you for this however did you hook up your iPad to a powered usb hub along with the audio interface and the nectar pacer to get them all working together? Or did you use an audio interface that has a midi port and connect the pacer that way?
On my set up, I do use a powered hub that powers all the midi controllers, the interface and charges the iPad. That being said, I could also run it all off of the iPad if I wanted to for probably one to two hours. But that’s not something I would ever risk at a gig.
Awesome video man, thank You! Do you have any experience with syncing up external pedalboard - delay/modulation to sync with tempo of loopy with midi, and how one would go about it? Would connecting it to interface with midi cable would be enough?
Thank you! I have not tried that specifically but I have synced up a Hologram Microcosm. Midi out from the interface into the pedal. In Loopy Synchronization settings make sure to check mark the interface.
@@JoshElliottMusic thank You! That should work as long as interface sends out the tempo of loop. One more question if You don’t mind. I’ve been using Boss rc600 for a months 6 days a week its a great looper but I’m getting super frustrated with bugs, glitches, the way it affets tone of electric guitar and the amount of time I had to reset it in front of people. How would You compare The performerence of loopy to stand alone looper? Is there any latency or bugs u experienced? And can u assign The parameters of for example vocal effects like feedback to extremal midi controller knobs? Thank You!
@@Boguszmusic That’s a great question and one I’ve been pondering heavily over the last year+. I’ve gigged with both set ups equally this last year. So there are pros and cons to each. There is no perceptible latency on my Loopy system even with a cheap zoom interface. Stability has been not perfect but I believe I’ve tracked problems down to faulty USB C cables and insufficient power to devices. My RC-600 has actually been rock solid. I would say that if I was just doing simple acoustic looping with guitar and vocals I would just use the RC-600. But the kind of looping I want to do (guitar, vocals, keyboards and sampled drums and performance effects) gets very complicated with hardware. In Loopy it’s all so easy to set up and more portable. In Loopy you can pretty much do whatever you can imagine. As for midi and parameters yes you’re u can assign pretty much anything.
@@JoshElliottMusic Welcome to The club man! Building up a solid looping system, that gives You options, is reliable, esthetically pleasing and somewhat portable for every day’s use is a real hussle. So I appreciate all the answers! Right now I’m using AKAI controller to trigger built in drum sounds in RC600 that I can play and loop, are there some good ones in Loopy? I would see n try it myself but got to buy an iPad first :D
@@Boguszmusic there are an endless amounts of good drums and other instruments on iOS. I load in all my own drum samples that I’ve collected over the years. I wasn’t a big fan of the internal drums on the RC 600: When I use that I use the roland handsonic. Honestly, though that hardware has been collecting dust lately.
This looks great. But when I connect my pacer device and go to the Pacer Editor, the page looks completely different for me than what you show. How do I navigate to the screen you are showing?
Hi Josh! Great video! Do think it’s possible to connect two of those pedals to use simultaneously? I’m working on a looping system for two people to use together.
Hello! Thanks. I'm not able to test this. I think in theory it should work but I can't be sure. You would want to use different midi channels for each pedal. What I can say is I use multiple midi controllers with no problem (different brands)
Great video Josh. Out of all your looping rigs which one do you prefer to use when play out live? I’ve been using the Headrush looperboard. But my pedal board is large and it’s a bear to move. Watching this video has me thinking about changing things up.
Hey Paul thanks! Well to be honest I’m still a bit unsure which way to go. In the Loopy set up there is a 4U rack case off camera that houses my interface, usb hub, wireless unit and power supplies. So it’s not as compact as one might think. There are ways to simplify that though. At the moment I’m still on my hardware set up for gigs. (RC-600) it’s so easy just to drop a pedalboard, plug in and play. I haven’t ruled out using Loopy in the wild though and I’m still stress testing that set up in the safety of my studio.
Very clear the way you explain! So i will ask you for your help: i use a drum loop on first loop about 12 bars long as a blues then i record the guitar part and it sounds right but slowly goes out of sync. I tried all kind of sinc settings but it doesn't work, of course playing live i cannot wait until the whole drum loop ends, thanks a lot!
Is that drum loop exactly 12 bars? You can go into clip settings and check. It has to be exactly 12 bars and sync settings should be either "master" or "loop" You may also try a different short drum loop to test with and make sure the settings are okay
Got a pretty great step up now. Thanks for the video! Is there a way to trigger on the pedal stop loop immediately? It just plays till the end of the loop, that's the only thing I haven't figured out yet.
Thank you so much, Josh. This is the clearest instruction I have had on the Pacer, and I am now able to have fun using it with Loopy Pro. I have one question. You set up button 1 the same as all the others but in the video, you didn’t give it any function in Loopy Pro. Can you tell me if you use it for anything? I also set up the Stop All button with a long press to delete all.
Thanks! I’m glad it helped. I’m using button One as an alternate Stop all. I have that one stop at the end of the loops automatically. This is useful for certain songs when I’m too busy to try to get the timing right for a song section when I drop all loops and play acoustically. My other start/stop all on the right side is instantaneous.
Incredible. So versatile. Here's an unusual question. Let's say I wanted to load individual tracks from my DAW. For example guitar, bass, drums. A full song say. Now I want control over each track to apply effects and then automatically assign the effects to play when I want them to. In essence, can I build a set list using Loopy Pro as the player. Simply loading each song as a session, saving it and then perform with live guitar and vocal for a gig. I know this not actually using the Loopy Pro as a looper, in this setup, but is it possible I'm wondering
You can definitely do that. I do something similar for certain songs. The only difference is I will sometimes combine Live Loops with some pre recorded material from the studio and Loopy Pro does it seamlessly
Hi Josh, thznks for the tutorial. how do you plug the ipad with the rest of the gears? guitar to external sound card to lightning(or USBc) adapter to ipad? and nectar to the adapter via usb? do you power-up the ipad adapter as well? thank you
This is a good question. I got Loopy Pro about 6 months ago. I became overwhelmed and now revisiting if I can learn it. I have a tutorial I bought from Max, he offers Zoom lessons. If I can get my head around the basic operating I will invest more time and money into the project.
Thanks Josh, terrific video, detailed informative and just what I needed to know, I will be watching again and implementing at the same time, awesome content, liked ,shared and sub'd
@@JoshElliottMusic Hi Josh. I’ve messaged Max Yarl for some help, I have his video course on getting started with Loopy Pro, waiting for him to get back to me. I appreciate your reply to me and the offer of “any questions” I have lightning port iPad. Do you know if I can use Positive Grid Spark GO amp as an interface? If yes, would I be able use AIRSTEP LITE or AIRSTEP SPARK for foot controller? I play electric guitar, bass and baritone guitar. My experience with loopers is the very old Digitech JamMan stereo looper. It is very limited for looping and editing.
@@JoshElliottMusic Thank you for getting back to me I just yesterday had a very good response from AIRSTEP. They have new firmware to make their AIRSTEP Spark edition work to control the Spark GO and iPad with Loopy Pro. Unfortunately I have very poor skills to understand all this easily. I believe I do have it figured out. I’m 63 so definitely grew up in a different time and place. I’m ordering the AIRSTEP. There has been many people saying how difficult AIRSTEP is to get hold of but my experience has been my emails I’ve sent answered fully within a few hours. I’m so old tech I don’t even have Facebook, Tik Tok etc… I just finally started putting up UA-cam videos of me learning timing with my clunky Digitech JamMan looper and that process is sure helping me get better playing my guitar and bass. Take care 👍🏻
Josh: I set up the Pacer per the instructions in your video but it does not activate the loops in loopy. Not sure where to go from here. I checked the Pacer with midi wrench and it is sending appropriate signals.
Josh - excellent content. Did you pre-establish loop length prior to performing your example? Struggling with how to make a template that allows me to have various loop lengths without predetermining them. Hopefully that makes sense.
Thank you! I did not establish any predetermined loop length in the example. The loops are all just set with “auto count out” to OFF. That’s the way I generally like to loop to keep things free and flexible. I have experimented with auto loop length though. It can be helpful but involves a different set up for each song.
Thank you. I have a USB-C iPad. I do have the official adapter from Apple, but I rarely use it. I prefer the high-quality ones that have a detachable USB-C cable. I use the Stay-Go USB Hub
@@JoshElliottMusic ah that’s a shame. Can’t decide whether to go for this and live with that workaround, or go for an MC6 but then have the louder foot switches and not have the colours… MC6 Pro is out of price range!
@@liamjrmatthews It's a tough decision. I'm actually debating switching to the MC6 Pro for smaller board but miss the brght leds on the Pacer. The MC6 Pro is expensive but really nice. The footswitches are pretty quiet but not silent. The Pro can kind of have colored led feedback but it's not intuitive like the Pacer and I'm still struggling with getting that part working.
Is there any significant advantage to investing in a high-end station like the Boss RC-600 compared to an iPad setup, aside from not requiring an iPad?
I copied and pasted my response from the Facebook group.."Anyone that knows me knows I've gone back and forth between the RC-600 and Loopy Pro for the last two years. The last year has been almost exclusively with Loopy Pro for gigging. Almost all of the stability issues come down to the external gear (interface, hub and usb cables) If you invest in a quality interface like RME you will not notice any latency and also you will have stability. That said other interfaces are fine (Zoom, Focusrite and Motu) The USB hub and cables are equally important. The funny thing is I see people complaining about Loopy needing an interface and hub yet RC-600 users generally have a large pedalboard and external devices with many more possible points of failure than an ipad set up. In fact a lot of RC-600 users are now adding an ipad to their set up anyway to use as a midi controller. With Loopy you actually can do more with less gear. The potential overheating in direct sunlight is a real thing but you can do things to mitigate that. If you are just doing simple looping, hardware loopers are fine and maybe even a better choice. But if you want a compact set up, flexibility, cutting edge functionality and top-notch support Loopy is the way forward."
Hey Josh. I am confused about midi pedals. watching your vids, it looks like you use a morningstar but endorse PACER. Which is the right way to go with a loopy pro setup? for gigging.
Hey. Both do work fine. The Morningstar is smaller, has a different feel, more customizable but lacks the led feedback. I think both work fine and the choice is all about preference and needs. Another good option is the KMM Softstep. It’s very portable. The spacing and feel of the switches though..people either love or hate. Hope that helps. I’m here if you have any questions.
Thanks so much for the fast reply. I’m trying to set up Loopy Pro and have learned a lot. Obviously having some issues. Do you do online consulting?. Let me know how to reach out to you for that. Thank you.
I am interested in this myself. I also like to use scenes l. For a four tracks set up like this I have an external footswitch set to do two different scenes. I’m considering a completely different layout for songs that use scenes and will post a video when I get it figured out.
@@JoshElliottMusic what are the settings to make it work with the footswitch ? For live I’m still using my looperboard with a nektar pacer and nektar panorama midicontroller . When I ‘m ready I will use loopy and the nektar. Just bought an apc mini mk2. Thanks again 😊
Thanx for the vid Josh! I followed your instructions and assigned the cc commands to the pacer. But when I try to learn the midi in loopy I can’t make the assigns to work. Any idea on what I have done wrong?
@@alensinani5190 have you tried a direct USB connection? The other thing you can do is put a midi checking app on like midimtr to see if the Pacer is sending midi to the iPad. Typically there is nothing special you should need to do to get Loopy to recognize the midi from the Pacer
Hey, this is super helpful, thanks for posting! I’ve been struggling to get the most out of my pacer and this is exactly what I needed. Couple of things not working as per your video though. 1) When I create the widgets and go into the midi learn set-up, I can select ‘press’ but then no sub menu appears for the additional settings? Any idea what I’m doing wrong? 2) I used the app to configure the settings on the pacer, exactly as described. The leds appear as their initial colour setting but don’t change colour when pressed. Any ideas why this is not working please? Forgive me, I’m new to Loopy Pro and to Pacer so it’s a pretty steep learning curve and video’s like your a few and far between! Thank You!🙏🏽
If you hold the button where it says “press” an additional menu should appear. I’m on my way to a gig so don’t have time to get into the rest but your question has me thinking I should make a more detailed video. Thanks for the questions. I’ll get back to you about it
Thanks for the reply, and good luck with your gig! I tried your suggestion but the ‘press’ is unresponsive after the initial selection. I just updated to iOS17.1 so I’m wondering if that has introduced a bug? More detailed videos on the the Pacer would be awesome by the way 👍🏻
Hey, I got the widgets working now, just needed to come out of the midi learn menu 😅 Just the LED’s to figure out but this already looks like a great set-up 👍🏻
Cool. Glad it’s working for you so far. Do you have “led midi” enabled in each Pacer footswitch? Also on the Pacer profile in Loopy you need to have “feedback” enabled
Thanks for the video!. I’m curious about the colors on the Nektar Pacer… Are they automatically assigned to the colors of Loopy donuts?. I searched in Loopy manual and Pacer is not specifically listed in “special support… RGB lightning”. If the colors are auto-assigned it’s a huge deal!.
Great Video - Thank you. I use a Morningstar MIDI controller. PLEASE HELP - I want to create 5 loops or 5 parts, and I want a different set of fx, or if you will a different preset for each of the 5 loops. Loop 1 (slight chorus), Loop 2 (light chorus and reverb), Loop 3 (distortion and light reverb)....etc. IMPORTANT - this is for live performance and so as I record each of the parts I need the fx to be active. In other words I don't want to put the fx on each of the loop buses, I want to record each loop or each part with fx already on them. How can I do this? How can I change from one "preset" or set of fx, to another with "one click" or "one MIDI message"???
Thanks for the kind words! What you to do is possible. It sounds like clip follow actions are what you want. You can make follow actions to enable or disable fx. If you want the effect baked into the loop you want to have the effect on the instrument input channel. I hope I'm understanding you correctly.
@@JoshElliottMusic I figured it out!!! Actually I created 5 buses; and each bus has a different /unique set of fx. Then on my input bus, I added 5 sends one to each of the buses (Send A, Send B, Send C, Send D). Then I added a switch knob control, in the editor. You turn the knob left or right, and each unique position will adjust the volume parameter of ALL of the sends on input channel. So if I turn the knob to a unique position to use Bus C, it will set the volume to zero on Send A, Send B, Send D and Send E - and set the volume of Send C to 100%. In this way I can control which set of fx (each bus has a unique set of fx), I use.
im new to loopy pro but i bought everything to mimic Mark K looping setup.. i have loopy pro, same steinberg audio interface... a FCB1010 midi foot controller.. midi out to audio interface in... usb to ipad.. Its picking up the microphone and i get audio out but i noticed my software doesnt have " midi interface" is that not in the new version and in some other menu?
@@JoshElliottMusic Thanks Josh! - Still wrestling with this thing but getting some progress haha.. I got digistix 2 and the tonestack for guitar.. just trying to work out how loopy can address them and setup my work space.. Ill get there eventually =) Rock on!
@@6StringPsychedelicGlad to help. I found just the Pacer alone is not enough buttons so I’m also using a Morningstar MC8 along side it. The Morningstar pedals have proven to be pretty temperamental with Loopy though. Pacer on the other hand is rock solid
How do you manage to record the first loop in 1 bar and automatically have 4 bars on the second loop? Everytime I approach like in the video the 2nd loop automatically record 1 bar only according to the first loop. 🙈
My loopy pro is not reading MIDI from my FCB1010 cc, every other app in the iPhone reads it fine. Midi Scope tells me I am send it the correct info. Any ideas?
How to connect it to the iPad ? I have on FCB1010 that I use perfectly to control Rec/start/stop overdubs on the Rc505mk2 by midi cable in/out but have no idea how to do the same on loopy pro using iPad lightning plug😮 please help me out guys!!! And thanks for the amazing video man 🙏🏽❤️😊
NEED HELP - Loopy Pro/iPad recognised on iMac Finder, Nektar Pacer shows midi comms on iMac using "midi-monitor" -all 3 devices connected via USB powered hub. WHY can't I get a "binding" relationship in Midi-Learn between the Nektar & iPad?? …..s'driving me loopy !!
Hmm. That’s confusing to me. What role is the iMac playing in this set up? It shouldn’t be needed. Pacer and interface into usb hub into ipad is all you should need. Turn off “network midi” in Loopy system settings. That has been known to cause issues with the Pacer.
Hi @@JoshElliottMusic thanks for quick response, ….I was using the imac from the hub, to run "midi-monitor" to ensure the Pacer was emitting the commands (which it does). So now, following your help, I've disabled "network midi" and connected from pacer, thru camera interface direct into iPad. So now, altho I can see the command emitted on the pacer screen - it still doesn't trigger the record loop. I've done everything else as per your youtube. It looked straightforward on there!! I wondered if the camera interface had a problem - but if i connect the pacer direct to the ipad via the hub (without the camera i/f)- it still doesnt work
@@Erky32there is an iOS app called Midi Wrench that works good for troubleshooting these types of issues. Are you on USB C or lightning? If Lightening the factory Apple adapter must be used. When you midi learn in Loopy does Loopy indicate that it received a message from the Pacer? Also do not forget the step in the Pacer editor to give two commands. 127 for press and 0 for release.
@@JoshElliottMusic - i'm on lightening (the one with the 8 exposed terminals double sided) . I've got the factory adapter. On midi-learn i see the 127-0 command on the pacer red led screen being acknowledged - but the binding link doesnt appear on the ipad. I'll check out the Wrench app.
midi Wrench is showing the pacer in grey/offline. Currently I have the pacer into USB hub, then hub to Apple adapter (camera adapter) into ipad . I am running the pacer on independant 9v supply because ipad said without was taking too much power. So it looks like my pacer is offline ? …when I press a pedal , the red leds indicate the action but nothing is logged on the wrench screen. I had previously set up the CC commands on the imac editor because it was easier - but I obviously had good comms to pacer from imac thru the hub & into the pacer. Everything is set on Midi channel 1.
Love it, man! Very helpful and you are sounding great as always. Loopy Pro can seem overwhelming, but hearing what you do with four simple loops is inspiring. Thanks!
Thanks for kind words! Always glad to help out my fellow loopers
Thank you for the clear and concise explanation!
Really good tutorial. Just what I needed to start understanding the Pacer. I don’t regret buying it now. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
as always great video!
Thanks Adam!
Fantastic, thank you!
Nice streamlined set up. Very easy to understand and keep things straight.
Thanks!
My guy, this helped me so much! I've had a Nektar Pacer for ages and only just go into Loopy Pro. This beats any loop pedal I've ever used!
Good to hear! What loopers did you use before?
@@JoshElliottMusic Ditto X4, Boss Loop Station and inbuilt modeller loopers. The customization of Loopy Pro is phenomenal. I've made my own template based on your video and just been using the slide over function for iPad Pro to add in samples and drum pads from other apps. Works really well without having to do anything too complex just yet!
Thanks for doing this! Blessings..
You’re welcome . Glad you found it helpful
Nice work Josh. Just set up my Nectar Pacer based on your tutorial. Thanks for sharing your ideas and taking the time to make the video!
Thank you! Glad to help
thanks for the video! still trying to figure somethings out,
Hi Josh, you are so far the most clear teacher i found about loopy pro! I would really love to have your template about this setting even if i on ly have a 4 pedals irig blueboard but i guess it would really help me quite a lot to get started, thanks a lot!
Thank you friend! I’m actually in the process of making some templates to give away. Please stay tuned!
Totally agree! Either they talk too fast, don't show where their fingers are pressing or you can't see the cursor, or, they talk funny... :)
Such a helpful tutorial! Thank you!!
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Cool! Sounds good! Nice playing! I appreciate the excellent guitar tone you got with stock Loopy plugins! I learned something thanks!
Cool, thanks!
That’s a great template to start looping. Pretty simple
This really made it clear and simple. Thanks
Josh! THANK YOU!!! This is the most informative, clear and succinct video I've seen for guitarists wanting to use Loopy Pro. Just this AM I finally started successfully creating a template similar to the Aeros looper. (Which I will soon be selling). This video helped me understand how to set up my Morningstar MC6. Again thanks so much.
Hey glad it helped! I was actually researching the Aeros. It seems good but has a few strange behaviors/limitations. Welcome to this Loopy family !
Thanks so much for going through your set up so thoroughly! Very helpful. Also really enjoy your playing!
My pleasure!
Thanks for this, it is really helpful.
You're welcome!
Thank you, Josh! Simple ROCKS! 🙌
BTW, love the Danelectro!🎸
Really appreciate this tutorial, I have the Morningstar MC8 and am hoping I can more or less achieve the same. Love the idea of a simple solution
The MC8 is a bit of a different animal. You need “looper mode” engaged on the Rec buttons but not the stop buttons. I hadn’t been successful getting long press to work for clear. Hopefully you can get that figured out!
@@JoshElliottMusic yea I’m almost about to buy the Nektar as this MC8 has done my brain in
@@wallacenock7423 I hear that. I even tried to troubleshoot the MC8 with Michael’s help and it did both our heads in.
@@JoshElliottMusic yea I’m just going to order the Nektar it looks easier just bulky. Unless there are any other alternatives
@@JoshElliottMusic Josh do you know if there is an undo function on loopy pro
Great informative video! Nice jam at the end also 🎸
Thank you my friend!
wow! That was a nice tutorial. Very clear and video quality great. I like your advice on keeping things simple, I have only been using loopy pro for a few weeks and it can waste a lot of time if you try to get too creative at first. Thanks
Thank you!
Thank you for this however did you hook up your iPad to a powered usb hub along with the audio interface and the nectar pacer to get them all working together? Or did you use an audio interface that has a midi port and connect the pacer that way?
On my set up, I do use a powered hub that powers all the midi controllers, the interface and charges the iPad.
That being said, I could also run it all off of the iPad if I wanted to for probably one to two hours. But that’s not something I would ever risk at a gig.
Awesome video man, thank You!
Do you have any experience with syncing up external pedalboard - delay/modulation to sync with tempo of loopy with midi, and how one would go about it? Would connecting it to interface with midi cable would be enough?
Thank you!
I have not tried that specifically but I have synced up a Hologram Microcosm. Midi out from the interface into the pedal. In Loopy Synchronization settings make sure to check mark the interface.
@@JoshElliottMusic thank You! That should work as long as interface sends out the tempo of loop.
One more question if You don’t mind.
I’ve been using Boss rc600 for a months 6 days a week its a great looper but I’m getting super frustrated with bugs, glitches, the way it affets tone of electric guitar and the amount of time I had to reset it in front of people. How would You compare The performerence of loopy to stand alone looper? Is there any latency or bugs u experienced? And can u assign The parameters of for example vocal effects like feedback to extremal midi controller knobs?
Thank You!
@@Boguszmusic That’s a great question and one I’ve been pondering heavily over the last year+. I’ve gigged with both set ups equally this last year. So there are pros and cons to each. There is no perceptible latency on my Loopy system even with a cheap zoom interface. Stability has been not perfect but I believe I’ve tracked problems down to faulty USB C cables and insufficient power to devices. My RC-600 has actually been rock solid. I would say that if I was just doing simple acoustic looping with guitar and vocals I would just use the RC-600. But the kind of looping I want to do (guitar, vocals, keyboards and sampled drums and performance effects) gets very complicated with hardware. In Loopy it’s all so easy to set up and more portable. In Loopy you can pretty much do whatever you can imagine. As for midi and parameters yes you’re u can assign pretty much anything.
@@JoshElliottMusic Welcome to The club man! Building up a solid looping system, that gives You options, is reliable, esthetically pleasing and somewhat portable for every day’s use is a real hussle. So I appreciate all the answers!
Right now I’m using AKAI controller to trigger built in drum sounds in RC600 that I can play and loop, are there some good ones in Loopy?
I would see n try it myself but got to buy an iPad first :D
@@Boguszmusic there are an endless amounts of good drums and other instruments on iOS. I load in all my own drum samples that I’ve collected over the years. I wasn’t a big fan of the internal drums on the RC 600: When I use that I use the roland handsonic. Honestly, though that hardware has been collecting dust lately.
This looks great. But when I connect my pacer device and go to the Pacer Editor, the page looks completely different for me than what you show. How do I navigate to the screen you are showing?
Hey Gabriel that’s the first page that comes up for me. If you would like to message me on Facebook I can try to help you further
Very, very helpful. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Hi Josh! Great video! Do think it’s possible to connect two of those pedals to use simultaneously? I’m working on a looping system for two people to use together.
Hello! Thanks. I'm not able to test this. I think in theory it should work but I can't be sure. You would want to use different midi channels for each pedal. What I can say is I use multiple midi controllers with no problem (different brands)
Thanks!! I’ll see if I can get it working. Btw what is your current setup? Are you still using loopy?
Great video Josh. Out of all your looping rigs which one do you prefer to use when play out live? I’ve been using the Headrush looperboard. But my pedal board is large and it’s a bear to move. Watching this video has me thinking about changing things up.
Hey Paul thanks! Well to be honest I’m still a bit unsure which way to go. In the Loopy set up there is a 4U rack case off camera that houses my interface, usb hub, wireless unit and power supplies. So it’s not as compact as one might think. There are ways to simplify that though. At the moment I’m still on my hardware set up for gigs. (RC-600) it’s so easy just to drop a pedalboard, plug in and play. I haven’t ruled out using Loopy in the wild though and I’m still stress testing that set up in the safety of my studio.
Awesome! This is what i'm looking for! Can you please tell me how to connect all devices to ipad? Nektar & Audio interface &Amplifier?
Thank you. So clear.
Glad it was helpful!
So helpful, thanks so much.
Glad to help
Very clear the way you explain! So i will ask you for your help: i use a drum loop on first loop about 12 bars long as a blues then i record the guitar part and it sounds right but slowly goes out of sync. I tried all kind of sinc settings but it doesn't work, of course playing live i cannot wait until the whole drum loop ends, thanks a lot!
I'm using irig Bluebeard as a midi pedal
Is that drum loop exactly 12 bars? You can go into clip settings and check. It has to be exactly 12 bars and sync settings should be either "master" or "loop" You may also try a different short drum loop to test with and make sure the settings are okay
Got a pretty great step up now. Thanks for the video! Is there a way to trigger on the pedal stop loop immediately? It just plays till the end of the loop, that's the only thing I haven't figured out yet.
Yes. In the clip settings if you want it to stop immediately change the “stop quantization” to immediate
Really useful tutorial! Quick question, there's a thud when you hit the foot switch, is that just the Nektar hitting the mic stand?
You have a good ear! Yes it is. It’s not normally there but I had things positioned in a way during filming that caused the thud
Thank you so much, Josh. This is the clearest instruction I have had on the Pacer, and I am now able to have fun using it with Loopy Pro. I have one question. You set up button 1 the same as all the others but in the video, you didn’t give it any function in Loopy Pro. Can you tell me if you use it for anything? I also set up the Stop All button with a long press to delete all.
Thanks! I’m glad it helped. I’m using button One as an alternate Stop all. I have that one stop at the end of the loops automatically. This is useful for certain songs when I’m too busy to try to get the timing right for a song section when I drop all loops and play acoustically. My other start/stop all on the right side is instantaneous.
Thanks a lot 🙏
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Incredible. So versatile. Here's an unusual question. Let's say I wanted to load individual tracks from my DAW. For example guitar, bass, drums. A full song say. Now I want control over each track to apply effects and then automatically assign the effects to play when I want them to. In essence, can I build a set list using Loopy Pro as the player. Simply loading each song as a session, saving it and then perform with live guitar and vocal for a gig. I know this not actually using the Loopy Pro as a looper, in this setup, but is it possible I'm wondering
You can definitely do that. I do something similar for certain songs. The only difference is I will sometimes combine Live Loops with some pre recorded material from the studio and Loopy Pro does it seamlessly
Hi Josh, thznks for the tutorial. how do you plug the ipad with the rest of the gears?
guitar to external sound card to lightning(or USBc) adapter to ipad? and nectar to the adapter via usb?
do you power-up the ipad adapter as well?
thank you
Hello..Yes it's guitar into audio Interface. Interface and midi controllers are connected to the ipad via a powered USB C hub.
This is a good question.
I got Loopy Pro about 6 months ago. I became overwhelmed and now revisiting if I can learn it.
I have a tutorial I bought from Max, he offers Zoom lessons.
If I can get my head around the basic operating I will invest more time and money into the project.
Thanks,
Thanks Josh, terrific video, detailed informative and just what I needed to know, I will be watching again and implementing at the same time, awesome content, liked ,shared and sub'd
Thank you! I'm glad it helped. Thanks for the support and I look forward to seeing you around!
I read this title as “how to set up loopy pro like a boss” 😂
Thanks Josh.
I am new to Loopy Pro.
Actually tried to understand it 6 months ago, failed…
Here I am trying again.
Welcome back! If you have any questions let me know
@@JoshElliottMusic
Hi Josh.
I’ve messaged Max Yarl for some help, I have his video course on getting started with Loopy Pro, waiting for him to get back to me.
I appreciate your reply to me and the offer of “any questions”
I have lightning port iPad.
Do you know if I can use Positive Grid Spark GO amp as an interface?
If yes, would I be able use AIRSTEP LITE or AIRSTEP SPARK for foot controller?
I play electric guitar, bass and baritone guitar.
My experience with loopers is the very old Digitech JamMan stereo looper. It is very limited for looping and editing.
@@kerryfromaj9032 Sorry I am just now seeing your question. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with those devices. have you checked the Facebook group?
@@JoshElliottMusic
Thank you for getting back to me
I just yesterday had a very good response from AIRSTEP.
They have new firmware to make their AIRSTEP Spark edition work to control the Spark GO and iPad with Loopy Pro.
Unfortunately I have very poor skills to understand all this easily.
I believe I do have it figured out.
I’m 63 so definitely grew up in a different time and place.
I’m ordering the AIRSTEP.
There has been many people saying how difficult AIRSTEP is to get hold of but my experience has been my emails I’ve sent answered fully within a few hours.
I’m so old tech I don’t even have Facebook, Tik Tok etc…
I just finally started putting up UA-cam videos of me learning timing with my clunky Digitech JamMan looper and that process is sure helping me get better playing my guitar and bass.
Take care 👍🏻
Thanks :) Please do Boss RC 500 Verse / Chorus
Josh: I set up the Pacer per the instructions in your video but it does not activate the loops in loopy. Not sure where to go from here. I checked the Pacer with midi wrench and it is sending appropriate signals.
Josh - excellent content. Did you pre-establish loop length prior to performing your example? Struggling with how to make a template that allows me to have various loop lengths without predetermining them. Hopefully that makes sense.
Thank you! I did not establish any predetermined loop length in the example. The loops are all just set with “auto count out” to OFF. That’s the way I generally like to loop to keep things free and flexible. I have experimented with auto loop length though. It can be helpful but involves a different set up for each song.
Got it! So many customizable options I have a lot to learn. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge and expertise!
Are you using camera connection kit from Apple? Nice job!
Thank you. I have a USB-C iPad. I do have the official adapter from Apple, but I rarely use it. I prefer the high-quality ones that have a detachable USB-C cable. I use the Stay-Go USB Hub
Thanks for this! Can you send a midi command TO the Pacer to change the selected preset?
Unfortunately no. It does not respond to PC messages. The only option is to create different midi profiles in Loopy. But then the LEDS don’t match
@@JoshElliottMusic ah that’s a shame. Can’t decide whether to go for this and live with that workaround, or go for an MC6 but then have the louder foot switches and not have the colours… MC6 Pro is out of price range!
@@liamjrmatthews It's a tough decision. I'm actually debating switching to the MC6 Pro for smaller board but miss the brght leds on the Pacer. The MC6 Pro is expensive but really nice. The footswitches are pretty quiet but not silent. The Pro can kind of have colored led feedback but it's not intuitive like the Pacer and I'm still struggling with getting that part working.
Is there any significant advantage to investing in a high-end station like the Boss RC-600 compared to an iPad setup, aside from not requiring an iPad?
I copied and pasted my response from the Facebook group.."Anyone that knows me knows I've gone back and forth between the RC-600 and Loopy Pro for the last two years. The last year has been almost exclusively with Loopy Pro for gigging. Almost all of the stability issues come down to the external gear (interface, hub and usb cables) If you invest in a quality interface like RME you will not notice any latency and also you will have stability. That said other interfaces are fine (Zoom, Focusrite and Motu) The USB hub and cables are equally important. The funny thing is I see people complaining about Loopy needing an interface and hub yet RC-600 users generally have a large pedalboard and external devices with many more possible points of failure than an ipad set up. In fact a lot of RC-600 users are now adding an ipad to their set up anyway to use as a midi controller. With Loopy you actually can do more with less gear. The potential overheating in direct sunlight is a real thing but you can do things to mitigate that. If you are just doing simple looping, hardware loopers are fine and maybe even a better choice. But if you want a compact set up, flexibility, cutting edge functionality and top-notch support Loopy is the way forward."
Can you discuss the other apps you can use with Loopy Pro?
That sounds like a great idea for another video! Thanks for the question
Hey Josh. I am confused about midi pedals. watching your vids, it looks like you use a morningstar but endorse PACER. Which is the right way to go with a loopy pro setup? for gigging.
Hey. Both do work fine. The Morningstar is smaller, has a different feel, more customizable but lacks the led feedback. I think both work fine and the choice is all about preference and needs. Another good option is the KMM Softstep. It’s very portable. The spacing and feel of the switches though..people either love or hate. Hope that helps. I’m here if you have any questions.
Thanks so much for the fast reply. I’m trying to set up Loopy Pro and have learned a lot. Obviously having some issues. Do you do online consulting?. Let me know how to reach out to you for that. Thank you.
@@DrMichaelHorwitzI don’t officially do any consulting but I’d be happy to help you further. We could possibly set up a Skype call
Thanks Josh ,
Is there a way to use more tracks, 6 or 8 and a couple of scenes ,3 or more, with the Nektar without using different presets ?
I am interested in this myself. I also like to use scenes l. For a four tracks set up like this I have an external footswitch set to do two different scenes. I’m considering a completely different layout for songs that use scenes and will post a video when I get it figured out.
@@JoshElliottMusic what are the settings to make it work with the footswitch ?
For live I’m still using my looperboard with a nektar pacer and nektar panorama midicontroller .
When I ‘m ready I will use loopy and the nektar.
Just bought an apc mini mk2.
Thanks again 😊
Thanx for the vid Josh!
I followed your instructions and assigned the cc commands to the pacer. But when I try to learn the midi in loopy I can’t make the assigns to work. Any idea on what I have done wrong?
Btw, I have a focusrite and connect the pacer via midi.
@@alensinani5190 have you tried a direct USB connection? The other thing you can do is put a midi checking app on like midimtr to see if the Pacer is sending midi to the iPad. Typically there is nothing special you should need to do to get Loopy to recognize the midi from the Pacer
Thanks for the quick reply. I will definitely try that and see what happens.
Hey, this is super helpful, thanks for posting! I’ve been struggling to get the most out of my pacer and this is exactly what I needed. Couple of things not working as per your video though. 1) When I create the widgets and go into the midi learn set-up, I can select ‘press’ but then no sub menu appears for the additional settings? Any idea what I’m doing wrong? 2) I used the app to configure the settings on the pacer, exactly as described. The leds appear as their initial colour setting but don’t change colour when pressed. Any ideas why this is not working please? Forgive me, I’m new to Loopy Pro and to Pacer so it’s a pretty steep learning curve and video’s like your a few and far between! Thank You!🙏🏽
If you hold the button where it says “press” an additional menu should appear. I’m on my way to a gig so don’t have time to get into the rest but your question has me thinking I should make a more detailed video. Thanks for the questions. I’ll get back to you about it
Thanks for the reply, and good luck with your gig! I tried your suggestion but the ‘press’ is unresponsive after the initial selection. I just updated to iOS17.1 so I’m wondering if that has introduced a bug? More detailed videos on the the Pacer would be awesome by the way 👍🏻
Hey, I got the widgets working now, just needed to come out of the midi learn menu 😅 Just the LED’s to figure out but this already looks like a great set-up 👍🏻
Cool. Glad it’s working for you so far. Do you have “led midi” enabled in each Pacer footswitch? Also on the Pacer profile in Loopy you need to have “feedback” enabled
Thanks for the video!. I’m curious about the colors on the Nektar Pacer… Are they automatically assigned to the colors of Loopy donuts?. I searched in Loopy manual and Pacer is not specifically listed in “special support… RGB lightning”. If the colors are auto-assigned it’s a huge deal!.
Hey man. The colors are not auto assigned but they are fairly easy to set up in the Pacer editor. Once they are mapped it’s seamless
@@JoshElliottMusic ok, thanks!
I have loopy.... and I want a looper for my guitar... been looking at the Boss range but this has me thinking all I need is the board..
Josh once I have done the editing in the editor for the Pacer how do I save that to my Nektar. Sorry I don’t see a save button
There is a button called “Write Pacer” Also on the Pacer itself I push the big round button
Great Video - Thank you. I use a Morningstar MIDI controller. PLEASE HELP - I want to create 5 loops or 5 parts, and I want a different set of fx, or if you will a different preset for each of the 5 loops. Loop 1 (slight chorus), Loop 2 (light chorus and reverb), Loop 3 (distortion and light reverb)....etc. IMPORTANT - this is for live performance and so as I record each of the parts I need the fx to be active. In other words I don't want to put the fx on each of the loop buses, I want to record each loop or each part with fx already on them. How can I do this? How can I change from one "preset" or set of fx, to another with "one click" or "one MIDI message"???
Thanks for the kind words! What you to do is possible. It sounds like clip follow actions are what you want. You can make follow actions to enable or disable fx. If you want the effect baked into the loop you want to have the effect on the instrument input channel. I hope I'm understanding you correctly.
@@JoshElliottMusic I figured it out!!! Actually I created 5 buses; and each bus has a different /unique set of fx. Then on my input bus, I added 5 sends one to each of the buses (Send A, Send B, Send C, Send D). Then I added a switch knob control, in the editor. You turn the knob left or right, and each unique position will adjust the volume parameter of ALL of the sends on input channel. So if I turn the knob to a unique position to use Bus C, it will set the volume to zero on Send A, Send B, Send D and Send E - and set the volume of Send C to 100%. In this way I can control which set of fx (each bus has a unique set of fx), I use.
@@vio4jesusgreat solution! It’s very cool how flexible Loopy Pro is to allow you to do those kind of things
im new to loopy pro but i bought everything to mimic Mark K looping setup.. i have loopy pro, same steinberg audio interface... a FCB1010 midi foot controller.. midi out to audio interface in... usb to ipad.. Its picking up the microphone and i get audio out but i noticed my software doesnt have " midi interface" is that not in the new version and in some other menu?
The term has changed now to control settings but I see in the forum you already got your answer!
@@JoshElliottMusic Thanks Josh! - Still wrestling with this thing but getting some progress haha.. I got digistix 2 and the tonestack for guitar.. just trying to work out how loopy can address them and setup my work space.. Ill get there eventually =) Rock on!
@@6StringPsychedelicGlad to help. I found just the Pacer alone is not enough buttons so I’m also using a Morningstar MC8 along side it. The Morningstar pedals have proven to be pretty temperamental with Loopy though. Pacer on the other hand is rock solid
How do you manage to record the first loop in 1 bar and automatically have 4 bars on the second loop? Everytime I approach like in the video the 2nd loop automatically record 1 bar only according to the first loop. 🙈
You want to turn off “auto count out” in global clip settings
@@JoshElliottMusicthank you 👍👍👍
My loopy pro is not reading MIDI from my FCB1010 cc, every other app in the iPhone reads it fine. Midi Scope tells me I am send it the correct info. Any ideas?
Hmm. I’m not sure why that could be happening. Have you tried different cables and hub?
@@JoshElliottMusic I solved it, I was sending cc but with value 0. switched it to 127 and solved
@@nyambeGreat!
How to connect it to the iPad ? I have on FCB1010 that I use perfectly to control Rec/start/stop overdubs on the Rc505mk2 by midi cable in/out but have no idea how to do the same on loopy pro using iPad lightning plug😮 please help me out guys!!! And thanks for the amazing video man 🙏🏽❤️😊
@@utropiks4617you will need an audio interface that has a 5 pin midi in. Glad you liked the video!
NEED HELP - Loopy Pro/iPad recognised on iMac Finder, Nektar Pacer shows midi comms on iMac using "midi-monitor" -all 3 devices connected via USB powered hub. WHY can't I get a "binding" relationship in Midi-Learn between the Nektar & iPad?? …..s'driving me loopy !!
Hmm. That’s confusing to me. What role is the iMac playing in this set up? It shouldn’t be needed. Pacer and interface into usb hub into ipad is all you should need. Turn off “network midi” in Loopy system settings. That has been known to cause issues with the Pacer.
Hi @@JoshElliottMusic thanks for quick response, ….I was using the imac from the hub, to run "midi-monitor" to ensure the Pacer was emitting the commands (which it does). So now, following your help, I've disabled "network midi" and connected from pacer, thru camera interface direct into iPad. So now, altho I can see the command emitted on the pacer screen - it still doesn't trigger the record loop. I've done everything else as per your youtube. It looked straightforward on there!! I wondered if the camera interface had a problem - but if i connect the pacer direct to the ipad via the hub (without the camera i/f)- it still doesnt work
@@Erky32there is an iOS app called Midi Wrench that works good for troubleshooting these types of issues. Are you on USB C or lightning? If Lightening the factory Apple adapter must be used. When you midi learn in Loopy does Loopy indicate that it received a message from the Pacer? Also do not forget the step in the Pacer editor to give two commands. 127 for press and 0 for release.
@@JoshElliottMusic - i'm on lightening (the one with the 8 exposed terminals double sided) . I've got the factory adapter. On midi-learn i see the 127-0 command on the pacer red led screen being acknowledged - but the binding link doesnt appear on the ipad. I'll check out the Wrench app.
midi Wrench is showing the pacer in grey/offline. Currently I have the pacer into USB hub, then hub to Apple adapter (camera adapter) into ipad . I am running the pacer on independant 9v supply because ipad said without was taking too much power. So it looks like my pacer is offline ? …when I press a pedal , the red leds indicate the action but nothing is logged on the wrench screen. I had previously set up the CC commands on the imac editor because it was easier - but I obviously had good comms to pacer from imac thru the hub & into the pacer. Everything is set on Midi channel 1.
...is that a Fake Dan Electro?....
I’m pretty sure it’s real. What makes you ask?