Cities Skylines Beginners Guide - The Better Way to Plan Ahead | Ep 4
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2022
- Cities Skylines Beginners Guide - The Better Way to Plan Ahead | Ep 4
In Todays Episode, we continue the Cities: Skylines Beginners Guide by going over how to expand your city while planning for the future. We begin by building a cargo terminal, so our trucks no longer have to drive in and out of our city to import or export. They still will on occasion, but this should help our traffic tremendously. I then move on to the tram vs. bus debate and discuss why I prefer trams over buses as we build a hub and speak transient network to complement our metro stations. Lastly, we build out a primarily residential area with all the services and a few critical design choices that really bring the room together.
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You're the Bob Ross of Cities Skylines. 😀
This definitely has to be my favorite city skylines series!! Can’t wait for you to make the airport and the university!
It's going to be fun. It has been a while since I did an airport in vanilla 😀
@@CityZilla I am also trying to remake this city on console and I am having so much fun doing so!!
In glad you are enjoying it! 😀
You know you are making a great city when a big UA-camr as biffa gets inspired by your design. Great video as always 👏🏼
Thanks Victor! Yeah, I was really surprised to see him use my design 😀
loving this series - I'm building along with you, and man I'm being murdered by traffic from the Farm! Thoroughly enjoying myself following along.
The farm is a tough one. It would have been better to put it in a different location in hindsight
really enjoying your series dude. I build with you as you go along, and I love the slower pace. I've always tried to rush and hit those milestones, but I enjoy it so much more now with your tips and attention to detail. Thanks for your efforts.
I'm glad you are enjoying the play style! 😀
😊
I wish the devs would add an update or even a dlc so that you can buy way more tiles
This would be golden
@MLU8811 I know, I meant for console/vanilla
@@CaptnCrnchwell, it's 4 months later and you probably know by now, but they did a console update that allows for 25 tiles
@@zephyrblayze i did not know that lmao, i’m really bad about checking updates and dlcs. i’ll go check it out thanks
@@zephyrblayze wait What? Thats amazing 😍
Great work on this series, loving the videos!
18:25 that is really RL issue of Tram vs Bus and the biggest con of Trams (that almost doesn't exist in games, making Trams superior in CS). Upfront cost, inflexibility and time needed to set up. In Warsaw they are building a new long tram line in N-S direction - it will take years. You need to find a lot of space (sometimes through Eminent Domain which in itself will take a lot of time, not even mentioning cost) throughout the city and once you pop it in - it will most likely be there for almost forever. Covering this with a bus line would take a month or two of plopping some bus stops (assuming existing ones do not exist) and putting some buses on the line. With all the drawbacks of the buses - the ease of creation, modification of lines is a huge, huge pro. Sure it adds to congestion and pollution, sure it is much less effective than a tram line - but at least it can be there, instead having citizens being excluded from public transport for long.
PS: Speaking of freeing up land - that is one thing that I must say I like in Transport Fever 2 and miss in Cities Skylines - TF2 makes Eminent Domain much much more costly and in turn - makes you think about stuff like freeing land to put in rail/tram/wider roads. I hope CS2 will have a cost for doing Eminent Domain.
Love this series! You are a talented builder and a wonderful instructor. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
this phoenician LOVED your tram rant. seeing the city come to life along with the light rail was one of the coolest parts of growing up here. completely agree that it is more appealing than the busses!
Hey! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I'm really loving the series. Being from Denver, the #1 US City for buses, I love the theology you're going with with your transit.
I didn't get a chance to comment last episode, but you don't have to "Y" into turns with tram lines, like you do with trains. It'll make your tram line in the middle of the city look a lot cleaner if you just "T" into it. Just a suggestion.
Looking forward to the rest of the series. Keep it up brother!
Thanks dude! Glad you are enjoying the series!
great episode
1-I like how you gave some light commercial to people working in industrial areas ( the game might not recognize it but I like to play as if there are people with real quality of life )
2-Careful on the cul du sacks they are not fun for municipal service providers
3- it might be fun to have an episode on how to redevelop an old area in a more realistic way than just clear cutting an entire section
Thanks Ve5vv! I could see that being enjoyable. Something like a few blocks at a time maybe?
@@CityZilla levelling an enter block is rare , unless you have a fire or or natural disaster or economic abandonment . Replacing buildings one at a time along with maybe making street into a pedestrian only street is more common ( this might even work better come to think of it as 5 minutes of each episode on updates to an old area replacing abandoned/ destroyed buildings with greater density of a different type ie going from all commercial to a mix of commercial and office and adding some high density residential )
This could be fun as a little segment we could do in the middle of episode. Redesign an older area!
@@CityZilla yea you just do it a bit at a time which is how redevelopment generally works . Check out the idea of a Neighbourhood Land-Use Plan and you can refer to it during episodes
New to city building games, and have learned a lot, following the grid pattern with the couplets has been super helpful in not causing gridlock in my city after too long.
There great to hear! I love using couplets in my cities!
Been playing for years and I'm still learning things from this series. Going to start a new city soon to put some of it to the test.
If I can offer a suggestion: turning the road connecting the farm to the cargo rail into one of those small highway roads might encourage trucks to stay out of the suburbs due to the faster speed they can travel at. Or use the Heavy Traffic Ban policy to keep the trucks out of the suburbs.
That's a great idea! It would increase the speed enough to encourage them to prefer that route. Thanks for the suggestion!
31:20 the Geo power station tanks on the back could look great facing the solar panels so it looks like it is all one building
You can get quay walls into your sunken road by flooding it with water drains, then add the quays, and finally drain it out again. Imperator is the expert at that trick. Interesting build.
Thanks for the tip!
really exited for your beachside design on this map
We start to move towards it a little in the next episode 😀
You're the "Bob Ross" of Cities Skylines. Nice delivery. I enjoyed the video.
This is awesome at its best 🌟 love it 👍👏🙏
Damn awesome video series. I start with cities Skylines but man I will never ever remember all these points or how it works. Thumb up and abo
Its a lot of stuff but you will get there
When I started playing this I swore I wasn't going to have more than the two mods that I think should come with the base game anyway (but what do I know). I'm laughing at myself now when I look at the long list in my content manager.
I'm the same way. Bwhenni first got into mods I didn't really now what I was doing. Now I have a mod and asset problem 🤣
whilst a do build cities similarly, I have a very different way of handling transit, instead of spacing out my metro stations a lot, I chose to set them up in pears allowing for easy transfers, two stops fairly close to each other with both stations running two lines before one splits off to interact with another line (doing my best to mimic cross-platform transfers).
I wish I did this more. having it all connected together is not very realistic. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@CityZilla thanks for taking the time to reply, certainly wasn't expecting it for a month-old video. will be following your build.
youre the only person ive ever heard say something good about the people mover
Trams have a lot of benefits versus buses. They both have good qualities but I think most cities would benefit more from trams.
as always, never disappoints to entertain me
You’re like the Bob Ross of cities skylines lol
Waterpumpstation in the back would look industrious 👌
Veeeerrryyy goodddd city, awesome decoration 👍🏻
Thank you!
The floating trash collector needs to be used in groups to make much of a difference. Like a line/screening effect..
Thank you! I was wondering about that.
Since you having trouble with garbage collection pile up the land, you can use method of collapse building natural disaster DLC although it sounds like a cheat. Once completely collapsed, bulldozer it and replace the new one. I actually scared to used it because it might affect nearby building. But when I keep it as center as possible and it's works without collapsing nearby building.
Thanks for the tip! We may have to use this at some point!
"Yeah! I'm getting mail! It's great!" THIS! 😆
Idk if you’ll see this but you mentioned phoenixs tram network! They have spent the last few years upgrading it and by the end of this year you can take the tram from west valley Old Metro Center all the way through Gilbert
Really?. I didn't know it went all the way out to Gilbert. That's awesome!
@@CityZilla I don’t think it’s quite to Gilbert yet. It stops at the far east side of Tempe but they are expanding like crazy I believe the plan is to go from one side of the valley all the way to the other by rail
Hi I was wondering can we add DFC’s (dedicated freight corridor) in our city 😍 and if we can make cargo station look more natural that would also very nice addition.
Why do the trams have to turn around in game. all the trams in salt lake city, the driver exits the front of the train and gets to the back of the train where they can simply drive the train in the other direction.
That's a very smart idea!
hiii! i am in love with this one, i think its a great build and easy to understand how to navigate a city. I was searching for a Save File but couldnt find anywhere, do you share them? I would love to check it in detail :)
I currently share them through membership but I'm planning on changing it up here soon by offering some save files on steam
Amazing series!! Keep up the good work ❤
Thanks Parth!
I never knew that if you select a tree from landscaping and then click on a road tile with trees it turns the trees on the road tile into the trees you selected!
It's a relatively newer feature
As a Phoenix resident I have to disagree with your tram comment. To be clear, I love the light rail. However, with the exception of Tempe, I don't think it is set up well. Mostly because it was unfortunately set up by lawmakers here to fail. It only has one single giant line that isn't every efficient. I'm very excited and hopeful about the new extensions though. I think with these extensions and more strategic extensions, it has a lot of potential!
It does have potential. The key is that they are doing it rather than just talking about it
This is a great series as I just started watching it!
Glad you are enjoying it!
The water cleaner floaty thing, works really well (if you want to clean it faster, throw 5 or so in, and then you can remove them when cleaned).
The unsafe appearance of walkway tunnels comment:
if you think that is unsafe, imagine being on a ped bridge when the train engines roll under - technicaly if you are worried about something that is not in the game, you might as well make something more realistic than looking like a water flume overpass where you get "coal rolled" by a train engine lol.
Just some input ;) You do a great job with what Vanilla+DLCs give you. I hope I can get most of them, and get back to content creation myself.
Hahaha I never really thought about that. It would be a bad day walking across the bridge when the train comes lol
17:38 if you could really call Phoenix's one light rail line and a streetcar a network, and by American standards, it's not that old. The light rail will become a network in 2024, as the South Central extension will force the line to be split into two. Is it just that the trams themselves look nice? Also, another advantage of trams over buses you didn't mention is the guarantee of service. It might be mostly psychological, but people are more inclined to think that a tram will come and stop to get them than a bus is. It's also harder to cut service entirely due to the fixed infrastructure. In terms of enticing development, trams are definitely better than buses.
When it comes to my thoughts on the debate, I think that both have their use cases, and should compliment each other (e.g. buses feeding into trams).
I totally agree. It's sad to say that Phoenix has one of the better one's in the country. The US just doesn't do light rail like it used to. There are still better networks but not many
I feel like trams have so much potential in cities skyline but it seems for the development it just been forgotten apart from mods no new refresh pain for so long
Yeah, I do wish they would add more stuff for them. More roads and maybe a station would be great!
@@CityZilla oh yes maybe they remember the trams 🚊 eventually
Those floating poop collectors do work, but you need an F tone of them to make a difference.
It's not surprising that Las Vegas does not have a Tram system. While there are more that 2 million people in Clark County, Las Vegas has less than 650,000 people, spread out over 135 square miles and a low tax rate so I'm not sure how the initial investment would be funded. The Tram would have to cover a very large area that has a low population density so I would imagine it would be underutilized.
Definitely, it would have to be a large network to make sense because of the lack of density.
Breaking and reconnecting those highways over and over isn't worth it. I just place them +3 meters higher than what this video shows; it also avoids making excuses for electric poles from underpasses clipping into the overpass.
Official post office is extreme important because they are more powerful compare with district judges, The Global-Chief-Federal-Postal-Court-Judge is important to have in any city. Because they protect the community also.
I really like your city and would like to ask which graphic mods you use
Loving every videos of the series!
Can you please share the map? I don't have Plazas and Promenades DLC :(
You would still need to have the plazas and promenades dlc to play it; unfortunately
@@CityZilla Thats sad! anyway thanks buddy!
my coal power plant is always running out of coal, what should I do to make sure it doesn't happen? And congrats for this series!!
Thanks Hugo! I would just make sure it has decent road access. Are there any traffic jams holding it up?
@@CityZilla yes, thanks for the help
I love your videos As a new player who started right at the same time as you started putting out your beginner videos I love following the tips and trix i learn from you. However I have a question. Your industry and energy does not seem to pollute as much as the vanilla ones do. You placed roads with trees next tou your industrial area in the last video and the trees looks fine. In this video I did not see any residual pollution when you switched from oil and coal plants to solar and geothermal. Is that a mod or am I missing something?
I'm glad you are enjoying them! Yes, I use a mod to remove certain visual elements. It's called hide it
@@CityZilla Thank you for your response.
Just found your content, GOOD STUFF BROTHA!
More tiles and parking in Vanilla would make this game so much better
How can a city this big only have 15,000 people?
You know, since you are using the "road" as a parking lot, you might as well get some car assets and fill half the lot up scattered with cars to look like they are parked there. I mean, time consuming, yeah. Will it add some realism, yeah.
I totally would but I'm trying to play without assets in this build. Thanks for the tip though!
Man, i like to hear your voice 😁
I live in Melbourne Australia and we have a very diverse tram network. Check it out
Thanks for the suggestion!
i can see the vegas in this, my cities all turn out like los angeles just cant help it
Haha it's tough getting away from what you are used to
@@CityZilla yea, if you imagine the industry area as a golf course and i just watched your other video and you built a strip, even though i have a feeling you will change it. Thanks for making this series will be watching
Thanks for watching! 😀
I’m from Las Vegas too bro and couldn’t stand taking taking the bus it would be awesome if they had a tram system..I was driving Uber and a bus driver got in my car and he was telling me crazy stories he said one passenger brought his pet honey badger on the bus🤣🤣🤣 he stopped the bus and called the police the police showed up and said ahh hell naaaw they got back in the car and left🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You power plants have no parking lot, it is just a piece of road. Therefore 3 cars are parked along the road.
Yeah, unfortunately there are not parking lots in the game. Some dlc have parking lots for certain zones but we didn't have the required dlc at this point.
How did you get the tram track to go across ur railroad track?
A bridge
The Bob Ross of Cities: Skylines
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Hi, i`m new in city skylines and follow your guidlines, but your roads ar darker; than mine roads; and the iter quiestion is
and; what mods do you use; like the UI left top of your screen ?
Unified ui is the mod with the little button. It allows you to put all of your mods in one area. I use theme mixer 2 to change texture in game.
Love your channel, style and delivery. However, why do you not have all taxes at 12%? You're losing out on easy cash (not like ti matters much, but still).
I would like to live somewhere like that. I use Xbox so it's impossible to do such details. Do you use a pen to navigate?
You can do most of this on console. It's been a bit since I have played console but this is a vanilla build
i know im waaaayyyy late to this series,, but you do you just ignore universities? ive always been told you had to have them for offices
I do an episode on a big university near our downtown
@@CityZilla oh ok.. gotcha
Which mod are you using at the top right middle corner which corresponding to A B C D E..?
It's called toggle it. It allows me to turn on and off certain visual elements in the game. Like district names or building notifications
@@CityZilla thanks. I finally found it on the workshop.
Make moreeeeeee
what theme are you using?
I am currently using a theme mix in this city
I'm new to City Skylines and I noticed that your industrial area does not turn brown, is there a setting that I need to check? Thanks!
No, I use a mod that removes it for visual reason
@@CityZilla Thanks! Love your videos!
What texture that you are using?
I have my theme mix uploaded to steam.
52:00
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Monorails are better than trams and buses. In every aspect.
What mods are those white roads you're using?
I'm not sure what you mean? This series doesn't use any mods at the moment
@@CityZilla the road you’re using are not vanilla. They have white/gray concrete for pedestrians.
Oh I use theme mixer 2 for pavement and asphalt textures. I am not sure of the themes off the top of my head though a few people have asked so I think I'll put a mix together showing what I am using.
@@CityZilla we would really appreciate it, thanks you’re the best.
Hey city zilla i need help my city skylines is corrupted and some mods are not working 😕 and i cant place roads ande stuff 😢 even though i am in the city limit
Any tips to fix it?
I would go through all of my mods and find the one that is causing problems. You can use compatability report and the loading screen mod to help you.
@@CityZilla the lsm mod was the one causing the issue i removed it and still nothing reinstall it no progress 👎
Have you installed the new one?
@@CityZilla yes
Have you checked the comparability report? Upgraded the rest of your mods after the dlc? I was having performance issues related to surface painter
no matter how many videos you watch. Your city will turn out SHIAAAAAAAAAt .
I love the game but it seems way oversized. All those roads, buildings, services for Just 15k people ? It should be at least for 45k at that point. Is there a mod for that?
There is the realistic population mod
What this map?
It's called coastal gem and it's apart of the plazas and promenades dlc
What map is this?
It's called coastal gem and it's apart of the plazas and promenades dlc
@@CityZilla oh ya I love that map, looks different here, must be mods? I only have console right now. Going to buy a PC soon just for this game.
It's a fun map so far though I wish it had more terrain to work with now
@@CityZilla it's good for me. I'm really bad at terrain work, I've watched many different vids on it and I still just suck, but I'll keep working on it. I'll get it eventually. Gonna start a new city based on your design tho this weekend. Can't wait.
It took me a while to gain some confidence with terrain but after a few builds I picked up on a style. My crater lake series has a few builds where inwork with terrain and make it look pretty good in my opinion. Glad to hear you are enjoying the series!
The longest tutorial ever
are u going to continue this build?
Yeah, we just had a video come out on Friday for this series.
@@CityZilla i see them now haha, i thought there were no more because you didnt name them ep.5 ep.6 etc. but i love the build