Importing a phone from China? - WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU DO!

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
  • Considering buying a phone from China?
    There are a few key things you must bear in mind before you hit that BUY button
    Let me know which device interests you in the comments!
    ‪@wondamobile2502‬ ‪@giztoptech‬
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @carpediem7654
    @carpediem7654 Рік тому +24

    I've been using ali express for years to import my phones from China. I've been able to get flagship experience devices for a quarter of the price that apple and Samsung are selling their phones for.

    • @moncef2466
      @moncef2466 Рік тому +5

      Where are you from? and have you paid any custom duties? that's the only thing blocking me from buying..i heard some people paying insane amount to clear their phones out

    • @oms_fs
      @oms_fs 7 місяців тому

      ​@@moncef2466me too

    • @Yos115
      @Yos115 6 місяців тому

      ​@@moncef2466 Ask the seller before hand to state the price lower so you don't pay charges

  • @tarroyo
    @tarroyo Рік тому +1

    thanks, this was helpful!

  • @DaRazorback
    @DaRazorback 11 місяців тому +1

    Jumping into this video for my 25th podcast today

  • @Tatisifetita
    @Tatisifetita 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice review.
    The list is changed?

  • @DaRazorback
    @DaRazorback 10 місяців тому

    Always good to repeat the good word as part of my 15th video of my Hump Day Average Dadathon!

  • @suspensefulness
    @suspensefulness 8 місяців тому +1

    i really wanna import the new xiaomi 14 pro from them, but im nervous they offer 3-5 days delivery im in the us..phoenix arizona🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @hector9960
    @hector9960 6 місяців тому

    Did not know about the warranty being pointless when imported 😮

  • @Eduardo-xl8hu
    @Eduardo-xl8hu 5 місяців тому

    But if there is a problem with your tablet - you have to pay like 70 euris to ship it to them which sucks

  • @janekelo77
    @janekelo77 5 місяців тому

    I have a question when Samsung phone arrives do I have to install google play ect and change Chinese things??? or just set up the language and insert the SIM?

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 Місяць тому

    Can all those importers you mentioned import global versions of phones, for better English localization?
    Especially when it comes to importing Vivo phones.

  • @duckoes1
    @duckoes1 Рік тому

    Can you post the link to your Vivo notification setup video please- cheers

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +1

      I will be listing a full set up video on the Vivo C Note tomorrow 👍

  • @Rafa-Cesp
    @Rafa-Cesp 8 місяців тому

    I have a OnePlus Ace 2 pro I just started using but I am worried about region lock. Has anyone had their Chinese phone locked ?

  • @storyking-287
    @storyking-287 27 днів тому

    Hello sir can you help me please please update issues with honor magic 4 pro global device not get any updates

  • @pouncy452
    @pouncy452 3 місяці тому

    Me worried about the import duty and vat on a 400 mobile the tank 3 it is only available in china from the manufacturer 25gb ram 1tb rom plus 1tb tf card version.

  • @Sarath220
    @Sarath220 6 місяців тому +1

    Can I import to Poland

  • @ThatzachO
    @ThatzachO Рік тому

    Does anyone know if the Poco F5 works on AT&T 🤔

  • @blaster915
    @blaster915 2 місяці тому +1

    Going through all your videos to get the best idea before making the plunge!

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  2 місяці тому +1

      Have fun!

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  2 місяці тому +1

      Vivo X Fold 3 standard!! do it!

    • @blaster915
      @blaster915 2 місяці тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial I'm definitely leaning towards the pro as water resistance is a big thing for me as well as the camera because I take a lot of photos on my phone for work.
      Just wondering if it's an upgrade over the pixel 6 Pro the cameras? If it is then I think I'll make the splash!

  • @rohan4481
    @rohan4481 Рік тому

    I'm in Sydney, Australia and sadly enough, only Samsung's Z fold series are available in Australia as fordable smartphones.
    I have been thinking of getting Vivo x fold 2. Can you suggest a reliable site to buy it and any idea about custom charges in Australia?
    Thanks.😊

  • @kelm1123
    @kelm1123 6 місяців тому +1

    My best ever phone was the Huawei P30 pro, too bad the US can't compete with them and ban it

  • @badger_claws
    @badger_claws Рік тому

    Nice video mate, thanks. I was just about to pull the trigger on a Find N2 Fold (from Wonda) but I heard phones with Chinese ROM and Google Play Services DON'T have Google assistant. Is this true? Thanks mate.

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +3

      Hey, thanks for watching!
      Google Assistant works in a couple of ways put not as you might be used to... you can add the Google widget to your home screen, this includes the Google assistant button. you can also download 'OK google commands' from the playstore.
      Hope this helps.

    • @badger_claws
      @badger_claws Рік тому

      Thanks mate, that's a great help. I wanted the N1 but held out due to the China only thing. Waited a year for the N2 and they did it again!! I'm in 2 minds, might just get it as I'll have it for 2 years and I'm sure there will be plenty more workarounds or even a Global \ custom ROM in that time 🤞

  • @LostJak
    @LostJak 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey! Thank you for the video. Do you happen to know how would the experience of buying from Giztop to France or Portugal be? I'd like to purchase a Xiaomi 13 but I can only find it on Giztop, which isn't your best choice in terms of free-tax shipping.
    I have ordered a Mi 9 Lite which was around €200 tops to France from Aliexpress back in 2019 and had no issues at all. It shipped fast (less than 2 weeks iirc), no issues at all with customs, I just don't know how it is nowadays.
    Xiaomi 13 256GB is around €530 on Giztop and I can't find anywhere with a similar price. Do you also have any suggestions for european online stores to buy Xiaomi phones?

    • @nasserjabi
      @nasserjabi 8 місяців тому

      why Giztop is not best choice in terms of free-tax shipping? did you have to pay?

    • @LostJak
      @LostJak 8 місяців тому

      @@nasserjabi I meant Giztop is not the best free-tax shipping option according to this video. The best one is Wonda Mobile, since it's the only store where AverageDadOfficial never had to pay any additional fees. I haven't bought from Giztop yet neither, sorry, but I am considering it. The only thing pulling me back is the fact that AverageDadOfficial has already been taxed a few times when buying from it.

  • @carlowespettigrew2800
    @carlowespettigrew2800 Рік тому

    Will the Vevo X Plus foldable work with Straight Talk in South Carolina I'm trying to figure out how can I order that phone

  • @ziem1246
    @ziem1246 Рік тому

    Have you bought the oppo find n2 fold? considering purchasing, bit not sure if i should expect any issues....

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +1

      The find N3 will be out soon!

    • @ziem1246
      @ziem1246 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial i hear that, however it wont be the same size as the n1 and n2, as it'll be slightly bigger i believe.

  • @PedroAdelino
    @PedroAdelino 7 місяців тому

    Can we still get OTA updates on Chinese devices with Global ROM installed? A Chinese seller told me that only Chinese ROM receives OTA updates. The device that I bought had the Chinese ROM but the seller unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global ROM!

  • @ZaaaK.AriiiA
    @ZaaaK.AriiiA Рік тому +1

    Being from Italy, i'm unsure if i should import a Redmi Note 12 Turbo from GizTop because i don't know if they will let me pay extra VAT and customs because it could go out of my budget

    • @gustavosobreira6169
      @gustavosobreira6169 Рік тому

      i just buy same phone and they send me this email: hello,
      thanks for your order.
      we just process it by Express shipping, the tracking number will be offered later today by email.
      here we offered two files in attachment, which is the lower value invoice and paypal certification which we put inside the package, if any customs clearence documents needed, please use them for solving the issue.
      attention:
      1. If the marking value under 160Euros as we showed on invoice, the taxes will be paid by our own IOSS account, normally, there is no taxes charged for you at most time.
      2. Once you offered the higher value invoice more than 160Euros, then the taxes will be paid by yourself.
      3. If local customs office didn't accept this lower value invoice which we put inside package, they will contact you to offer the new invoice, then you can email us here, we may offer solution, or responsilble partial taxes as compensation.
      thanks.

    • @LostJak
      @LostJak 8 місяців тому

      ​@@gustavosobreira6169Hey Gustavo! Do you happen to be from Portugal or Brazil? Just guessing from your name, as I'm brazilian myself and I'm actually planning on buying from Giztop to Portugal, as I'll be in Portugal on a trip soon.
      Mind sharing how was your purchase experience and what was the value of the phone? Did you get taxed? I didn't understand much of the e-mail. Have they already included inside the box a value to be paid to the customs, but if the customs won't accept that the content is below €150, they don't accept the value offered by Giztop and ask you to pay for customs yourself? Is that it?
      I'd be really grateful if you can clarify those things, and you can do so in portuguese if you are portuguese yourself or brazilian, of course!

    • @gustavosobreira6169
      @gustavosobreira6169 8 місяців тому +2

      @@LostJak eu comprei o xiaomi 12 turbo, paguei o envio por expresso e veio por dhl. Não paguei nenhuma taxa, o celular chegou perfeito. Tudo certinho... Só tive que trocar a rom porque veio chinesa. Mas foi mole, só ver uns vídeos.
      Sobre o envio: demorou uns 4 dias pra eles processarem o pagamento e enviarem, depois do produto entregue pra transportadora demorou mais uns 4 dias. Não chegou a demorar 10 dias.
      Sobre o preço: o celular foi 299 + 30 e poucos do frete expresso ( tem que ser esse pois se for pelo outro tu corre muito risco de pagar taxa) ai no pagamento fica um pouco mais barato do que 330 por causa da cotação. No total deu 316, mas o preço do xiaomi turbo desceu muito, ta custando uns 230 e tantos. Recomendo muito.
      Resumindo: a experiência foi ótima, sem dúvidas vou comprar mais vezes por lá. Pode comprar sem medo.

    • @LostJak
      @LostJak 8 місяців тому

      @@gustavosobreira6169Valeu por responder mano! Ótimo saber disso. Duas dúvidas: você é do BR também então? E se sim, você fez a compra do Xiaomi Redmi Note 12 Turbo depois do negócio de Remessa Conforme?
      Eu já tinha medo de comprar coisa importada pro Brasil e ser taxado desde sempre, depois disso então... Eu tenho visto muita gente em comentário do UA-cam e em review do Aliexpress reclamando de ter sido taxado, sem contar o tempo que fica parado aqui na alfândega. A impressão que passa é que desde o Remessa Conforme tudo chega taxado aqui e tá impossível de comprar, então se você tiver comprado depois disso (num valor de ~$300 ainda por cima) e não foi taxado em nada, é impressionante mesmo cara! De qualquer forma, aqui pelo menos não aparece pra mim opção de entrega no Brasil no Giztop. Teria que ser em Portugal ou na França mesmo, quando eu viajar.
      No caso, eu tô pensando em pegar o Xiaomi Civi 3 ou o Xiaomi 13. O Civi 3 só tem no Giztop e até o Xiaomi 13 mesmo é mais barato lá. O meu medo é só ser taxado mesmo. No TradingShenzhen parece que não taxa de jeito nenhum pra Europa com frete "Global Priority"

  • @martinvlk4302
    @martinvlk4302 Рік тому

    Does the phone come with a Chinese charger and is giztop safe to use? Thx

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Yes a Chinese charger but adapters are cheap.
      Gizstop are one of the best 👍

  • @Deludedposting
    @Deludedposting 3 місяці тому

    I use a oppo find X6 pro and Huawei P60 😊 imported from china

  • @biglem4968
    @biglem4968 Рік тому

    Hiya mate, I might have missed it, I think someone else asked but I couldn't see an answer. Can you get Android Auto to work on Chinese versions, kind of a deal breaker for me if not. Also there seems to be Global Versions, any idea if they work on Android Auto? Any help appreciated. Cheers.

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Hey, global versions will all work fine with android auto! the Chinese versions need to be bootloaded and flashed to a global ROM... not hard but takes a while to do.

    • @biglem4968
      @biglem4968 Рік тому +1

      @@AverageDadOfficial thanks man, like the look of the OPPO Find X6 pro, just read notifications don't work properly on Chinese imports either 😒 looks like I'll potentially be sticking with the X5 pro for now... Shame, really looks a class phone.

    • @richarddunn367
      @richarddunn367 11 місяців тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial did you have a video on that? I couldn't find anything on our channel

  • @prince1888
    @prince1888 Рік тому

    Hello my friend, I bought the vivo x fold plus phone from Bludiode, is this site reliable? Is it late in importing? I live in Sweden,🌹

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Hey, totally reliable! there was a delay recently due to the Chinese new year however, this should no longer impact. Thanks for watching!

  • @Muffindolphin
    @Muffindolphin 6 місяців тому +1

    Hello from the UK
    Do you have any safe sites you could recommend me?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  6 місяців тому +1

      Wonda mobile, link in video description.
      Gizstop also great

    • @Muffindolphin
      @Muffindolphin 6 місяців тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial thank you I will check it out

  • @riyaarora9421
    @riyaarora9421 11 місяців тому

    If I import it in Belgium (European country) i have to pay extra customs duty or any tax?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  11 місяців тому

      Not through Wonda mobile, they sort that for you included in proce.
      Link yo site included in description.

  • @TheHpsauce37
    @TheHpsauce37 Рік тому

    Do banking aps work in the UK on an imported Xiaomi phone

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I use RBS, Barclays, virgin money and Revolut. All apps work. Normal 👍

    • @ttube111
      @ttube111 10 місяців тому

      Is this for Global version and Chinese Versions if ordered to the UK?

  • @Mitikinho
    @Mitikinho Рік тому

    I’m considering to import an OPPO find x6 pro from china, do you know if these phone receive regular software updates disregarding their version (Chinese/global)?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +2

      indeed they do, i am buying the same device soon. reviews coming up!

    • @Mitikinho
      @Mitikinho Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial ok thanks, I'll wait for your review especially the pro/cons of importing

    • @kostaspap8708
      @kostaspap8708 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial tell us more how to get the device

  • @luisasensioramis7215
    @luisasensioramis7215 9 місяців тому

    In my case i want to buy one phone from giztop in spain, if i finally buy it i will pay something from fly taxes maybe?? What about the garantee?? Can i return it if it is broken???

  • @hdwblade
    @hdwblade Рік тому

    Does Android pay and Android auto work? And how has service been? I'm actually on t mobile in the US so very curious! I'm looking at the Oppo Find X6 Pro

    • @carstenb23
      @carstenb23 Рік тому

      Same here, thinking about getting the Find X6 Pro in the US

    • @Goldenkloobus
      @Goldenkloobus Рік тому

      Same here, any update?

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade Рік тому

      @@Goldenkloobus Android auto doesn't and no way to get it, Android pay does though. I wish OnePlus would just rebrand it as a OnePlus Ultra and sell it for $1,000... One can dream. I don't think I'll buy but if you do let me know how it goes! P60 Pro just wiped the floor with its cameras!

    • @Goldenkloobus
      @Goldenkloobus Рік тому +1

      @@hdwblade yea but huawei without google is kinda pointless

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade Рік тому

      @@Goldenkloobus I know, is it possible to get GApps on it?

  • @tusharsaini11
    @tusharsaini11 Рік тому

    I am in India and thinking of getting oppo tab 2 or any similar tab. Should I get it from them ?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      no reason why not! cheaper than anywhere else.

    • @tusharsaini11
      @tusharsaini11 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial but taxes on imports are high here. Gotta look at them once. Nevertheless thank you for reply 🙌

  • @joshuamontero9307
    @joshuamontero9307 11 місяців тому

    It safe to buy an smartphone on AliExpress and shipped to miami USA?

  • @shac79
    @shac79 Рік тому

    What do you think about chineese version with global rom?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому +1

      best of both worlds!

    • @shac79
      @shac79 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial I'm hesitating just because of the mention: can't update ota. But I've seen people in my country (Israel) replying that everything is working fine, updates included...

  • @adarshranjan9629
    @adarshranjan9629 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey mic, i want to import mi13 ultra orange , zte axon 40 ultra from chin to India (bcz they are unavailable in my country) , can u suggest some good sites for this? Also tell will i face any connectivity issue while using it in india?
    Can it's screen be replaced if damaged?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  10 місяців тому

      Hey, i thought Gizstop and Wonda shipped to India? You should have no issues with service

    • @adarshranjan9629
      @adarshranjan9629 10 місяців тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial bcz I heard that their imei is locked, so I can't use sim in India, is it true or rumours?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  10 місяців тому

      @@adarshranjan9629 Not true at all mate!

    • @adarshranjan9629
      @adarshranjan9629 10 місяців тому

      both gizstop and wonda don't ship to india due to high customs @@AverageDadOfficial

  • @marcg1043
    @marcg1043 4 місяці тому

    thanks for pointing out what a nightmare this is. all i heard is drawbacks for 15mins. why would anyone do such a nonsense?

  • @ttube111
    @ttube111 10 місяців тому

    For UK users, which would you recommend out of Giztop and Wonda? I dont care much for Google Pay, but would Global Rom be a good choice for UK users? Want to get a Xiaomi 13 Ultra but hesitant 😬

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  10 місяців тому +1

      It might be your lucky day. I have a brand new and unused 13 Ultra and I will sell for the right price.
      Global ROM
      Black colour
      256GB
      DM me on Instagram if interested.
      @svwrsge_dad_official

    • @ttube111
      @ttube111 10 місяців тому

      ​@@AverageDadOfficialI have done so. I dont want to reveal my insta handle on UA-cam but it begins with N and has the number 2 in it. I have sent u a message which mentions a phone beginning with O. So you know it is me!!

  • @maumorales5780
    @maumorales5780 Рік тому

    Hi im from Mexico i what to import the vivo x fold 2 but I’ve heard that android auto doesn’t work, is that right?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Yes, sadly this will not work!

    • @maumorales5780
      @maumorales5780 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial and there is no way to make ir work like magisk or something??
      I thinki found a way to use Android auto, its carlinkit and it has android auto and you can connext your phone vía Bluetooth, because these box is the one that has android is a great option

  • @Armin-mn1pd
    @Armin-mn1pd 10 місяців тому +1

    do Chinese phones have unlocked sim (I mean that you can use an European sim for the phone)

  • @tor6328
    @tor6328 10 місяців тому

    Im from Africa, Zambia and i want to use Wonda mobile. Any thing i should look out for? In terms of authenticity and condition that the phones come in?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  10 місяців тому

      They are totally legitimate, i assure you. Do they deliver to your area? Thanks

    • @lubindamaambo5808
      @lubindamaambo5808 6 місяців тому

      Hey, I am from Zambia as well and currently in China, I am into import and export of electronics, I can help you out if want.

    • @lubindamaambo5808
      @lubindamaambo5808 6 місяців тому

      @tor6328

  • @ideaman1087
    @ideaman1087 Рік тому

    Wanted to buy Nubia Z50 for India! Will it work??

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Yes, works perfectly as its a global ROM

    • @ideaman1087
      @ideaman1087 Рік тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial it says Chinese version in the description sir!

  • @enterestingcreature8750
    @enterestingcreature8750 Рік тому

    Nice channel. What do you think about tradingshenzhen?

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Used them once, not bad just not as good as Wonda, Bluiode or Trinity.

  • @skmetal7
    @skmetal7 Рік тому

    I'm drooling over the oppo find n2. I wonder how well it would work on Verizon....

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      It’s a great looking device!!
      Not sure about Verizon as I’m in the UK

  • @ruwaismd3204
    @ruwaismd3204 8 місяців тому

    Hi Im living in UAE right now, I'm looking to import chinese rom xiaomi 14 , for this moment globel version is not launched,,, so my question is,, If I'm buying chinese rom now, after few months launching of global rom, still can I install global in my mobile??

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  8 місяців тому

      Hey, of course. as soon as ROM is available, you can flash to the device. well worth buying now because the global version will be well over £1000

    • @ruwaismd3204
      @ruwaismd3204 8 місяців тому

      @@AverageDadOfficial If you don't mind one more question,, after flashing to global ROM still I'll be getting regular updates??

  • @Seanmmvi
    @Seanmmvi Рік тому +1

    I imported the vivo x fold to California, I sold it in 2 days. Nothing worked it was a shit show. I was very disappointed. To ensure proper function and compatibility, I will only be buying phones that are sold by T-Mobile 😔

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      That sucks! Such a great phone.
      I thought it was only Berizon that had issues with imports over your way.

    • @chronocross85
      @chronocross85 Рік тому +1

      You have to make sure the phone supports the same network bands as T-mobile. T-mobile uses GSM network so choose a phone that supports GSM. I have T-mobile and bought a Oppo phone and it supports GSM network

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade Рік тому

      ​@@chronocross85 which Oppo phone did you buy? I want the x6 pro so bad but have no idea and I'm on t mobile too!! I'm trying to figure out everything I can before spending $1,000 but literally there's no info anywhere about people in the US using it. Does Android auto work? Calls working ok? Hot spot? And most importantly to me, Android pay?

    • @chronocross85
      @chronocross85 Рік тому +1

      @@hdwblade I have the Find N2 Flip. Calls and text are working fine. I dont use Android Auto or Android Pay so I am not sure. I know the X5 pro the android pay works

    • @hdwblade
      @hdwblade Рік тому

      @@chronocross85 sick!! Any notification issues? I heard people have problems with getting calls and texts?

  • @andreasjohnsson8854
    @andreasjohnsson8854 4 місяці тому

    is it worth buying a chinese version phone?

  • @ladyfireladyfire3516
    @ladyfireladyfire3516 11 днів тому

    Trading shenzhen is sure?

    • @Stone_stuff
      @Stone_stuff 7 годин тому

      They are SCAM, I lost 1000e today, they send me 18 grams package, I did not use paypal

  • @sarezlake8485
    @sarezlake8485 Рік тому

    Hello I'm gonna buy realme gt neo 5 Chinese version, I live in USA, is it works here) From Florida

    • @folaranmifemi6765
      @folaranmifemi6765 11 місяців тому

      I also want to buy this phone but i cant get it on wonda mobile

  • @p.c.h.6721
    @p.c.h.6721 Рік тому +1

    For Europeans I recommend, TradingShenzhen Int, no import duties, no taxes, no bs, everything as expected.
    I’m selling my Vivo X Fold, bought it brand new just a few weeks ago, a bit too heavy for my liking

    • @AverageDadOfficial
      @AverageDadOfficial  Рік тому

      Thanks 🙏 I just used trinity electronics for my C fold plus

    • @ladyfireladyfire3516
      @ladyfireladyfire3516 11 днів тому +1

      Is It a web site sure? I cannot to pay with PayPal

    • @p.c.h.6721
      @p.c.h.6721 11 днів тому

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      Yes, it's a website