They already showed how ordinary people can be heroes in spider-man 1with aunt May's sacrifice. She didn't have superpowers or elite marksmanship. Just a kind heart and courage.
Eh. In some situations, you kinda need more direct help than the indirect kind from regular folk. In the moment, having someone fighting the Symbiotes or directly helping team Spidey would help them defeat Venom faster.
My main problem with the game is the pacing of it, I wish we had more scenes of agent venom and more of venom too with him turning this world into a giant goob for celestial parasite and I wish the story of it was better too.
The main issues that I have with the game that really pissed me off the most were the side content, lack of replayable content, and lack of quality of life features. There is so little to replay in this game that it's stupid. There's no combat challenges outside of the mysteriums, and even then, you can only play those as miles. There's no stealth challenges and no traversal challenges. Nothing. And the enemy bases are pathetic to say the least. Spider-Man 1 had four kinds of enemy bases, Miles Morales add two kind of enemy bases yet this game only has one. And they aren't even replayable. And the missing quality of life features really did tick me off. There's nowhere for you to change into miles or Peter after you beat the main story, you can't parry with your spider arms and can only parry with your anti-venom arms even if you're not wearing a symbiote suit, you can't switch the colors of the Symbiote Back to Black and you're just stuck with White Once you beat the main game There's no podcast player, so if your podcast gets cut off because you go into combat or start of mission, you're just screwed. There's no selfie option in photo mode, no social media feed, and there's not even a freaking character bios. I want to give this game a 10 because I really really enjoyed it but the lack of pretty much anything to do and missing content that is stupidly left out just drops it to like an 7-8.
@@TrulyABI also forgot to add this to my comment but they completely downgraded the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man app. In miles morales, you could pick any side mission and choose specific crimes that you wanted to replay at any time. Now once you 100% the game, the only thing the FNSM app can do is to just let you switch between Peter and Miles. Hopefully Insomniac add more updates to add more content. They are already planning on adding in Mission replay New Game Plus and the ability to change weather in a future update so hopefully they add an update to FNSM app.
And they also need to add more suits. There is not a single animated suit that is not a spider verse suit. Miles gets three suits yet Peter only gets one and it's not even his own suit. The suit selection is questionable sometimes. How the hell are they going to add the Strike Suit yet not the Winter suit?
@@seeonaga1524This is very true lol, I was getting irritated while trying to gather footage for the high speed car chase crime. Since I can't specifically choose that mission, I had to get lucky.
You show MJ, THE SUPPORTING CHARACTER, as being strong in her own right via her information, intel and strategies, not how many symbiotes she can gun down! She's not that kind of hero!!!! WHAT DID YOU CUT TO PUT THESE IN HERE?! THE GAME ALREADY FEELS RUSHED
@@isaacalexander5286 It seems it. Her gun is so OP it can one or two shot symbiotes and even lets her comfortably take down a brute, even though neither Spider-Man can easily dispatch symbiotes and require entire combos with special attacks to take down Brutes. Her sections are too much. As much as they are actually entertaining unlike the first game, they still shouldn't have been here in place of more Spidey stuff.
Exactly, how is she able to take out trained henchmen? Lore wise she was trained a bit, but not like the henchmen who all probably are military mercenaries with years of training, but apparently a Karen with a taser is more powerful. Peter just feels like a side character when he's next to MJ or Miles.
@@Ligmaballin Fucking YES. I liked it hinting that she had at least a few months of training from Sable, but that isn't nearly enough to make her survive going up against a single one of Kraven's Hunters who have easily decades of training, most of them likely since they could walk, and have trained extensively under Kraven himself. Her mission should have been an entire stalker-enemy section against a single Kraven Hunter wherein she eventually defeats him at the very end, purely because he was getting so mad about not catching one woman. The aftermath of the section, once MJ was found and behind bars, should have literally had some Hunters in the background jabbing at him that he should go back to training so he can focus instead of getting blind with rage. I stress again that those sections were at least fun this time around, but they just painted her as being far too OP. Never mind that she escaped and beat Kraven Hunters with a taser, but she also fucking escaped from the Symbiote while it was piloting SPIDER-MAN. That's not fucking possible. And yeah, Pete just feels like nothing. They spend most of the damn game beating him down and making him seem lesser than he ever was or ever should be just because they really, really wanted Miles to take over. Ideally the game should have been a good five or six hours longer, minimum, had ten extra missions and a larger time frame, so we could see Pete degrading under the symbiote for way longer. He should have been treated like he was still at his peak, even beyond it, but was going about it destructively because he was relying on the symbiote, as it was ripping out all his repressed grief and rage from Aunt May dying. Him being depressed shouldn't have ever weakened him, and the worst part about that explanation is it is not at all hinted at in-game, since he doesn't improve or get treated better at all after "getting over it" when he gets Anti-Venom. The end game should have seen Venom mortally injure Spider-Man as Harry was unable to control it, who proceeded to finally let the damn break, begged for forgiveness, and *_used Anti-Venom to burn the symbiote and unfortunately kill Harry too._* After being so grievously injured, Peter should survive only thanks to the Anti-Venom symbiote's bond with him, and he should give up the mantle of Spider-Man due to never in his mind being able to live down that he killed his own best friend, all of it rooting back to the fact that he let a moment of weakness start it all. He realises that such a mistake can't lie, and even though he's still plenty powerful and can physically keep being a hero, he'll never be able to look at all those murals and paintings around the town of him "saving" the city from Venom, because all he would ever see if himself killing Harry. It should have been respectful, sombre, and he shouldn't have been treated as a complete punching bag across the story. The first insomniac Spider-Man was great, the MIles spin-off felt like a somewhat decent, somewhat meh DLC, and the third game just completely fumbled the entire universe. On top of everything it did with treating Peter the way it did, killing off most of the world's villains (mostly off-screen too) only to then also kill Kraven and Venom makes the entire world feel tiny because none of the rogues we know and love are there anymore. Tl;dr it was horribly done and completely disappointing story-wise, and the better gameplay and movement just doesn't make up for it. It's the only Spider-Man game I've never replayed even once.
MJ isn't a hero. She used to be a super model that was an important emotional anchor for Peter. These dumb game designers decided to make her ugly and an overpowered badass. They have zero respect for the source material. Could you imagine going to watch an NBA game, and every 10 minutes all the players wives came out on the court to demand that they get equal recognition. It's madness.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Have you looked at her jaw? It's so thick that she could slam it into bricks to break them. Reminds me of Barron Von Underbite from Venture Brothers. Look him up.
@@Nazraq04 I looked him up and you lost even more credibility than you did before her jaw line does not look that bad. Also Personally I care more about the emotional anchor aspect of MJ (which she is in those games)not the super hot model one.
I agree with you but yall do realise this is a human in real life modelling as mj right I don't want to be biased like I get the designer didn't do well but calling a voice actress ugly is disrespectful
If we compare Peter from Spiderman and spiderman 2 , You can see that Peter from spiderman 2 CANT DO ANYTHING UNTIL MILES SHOWS UP TO HELP. WHEN IN THE FIRST GAME HE DID ALL THE PROBLEMS SOLO
Fr bro in the first game peter can handle like 2-3 villains at a time but in the sequel he gets his shit oushedin by sandman only? That they told us he beat easily before?pretty sure he gets hit in every cutscene in that fight
It’s because he’s like 2 years older than when he was in the first game. He’s going to mess up a bit. I think it makes it look better when he gets the symbiot suit
I hated the fact that the final act of the game Peter becomes a Whiney constantly apologizing loser ON TOP of being nerfed and spending a whole 50 percent of the final act knocked out or wounded or needing assistance. It got so grating and got me so annoyed not befitting the OG and disrespectful AF
Peter wasn't nerfed he just faced bigger treats than it the first game, and what's wrong with him apoligizing exactly ? spiderman can't be emotional, look I have problems with this game but your criticisms are not that good.
@@malikpierre-louis3343the problem isn't that peter apologizes, it's the way it's poorly written and poorly choreographed as possible, peter in this second game is really lame, firstly that the villains' buff in this game is pathetic just to make up an excuse like venom not having weaknesses to almost nothing, which completely deviates from the reality of what villains are, and secondly, emotions should make Peter stronger and not weaker, he has always been like this in several stories, he always stood up and was not diminished, the amount of The excuses that Peter keeps asking throughout the campaign are absurd, he apologizes for everything for no reason, with everyone, even the villains, he apologizes, and Peter himself humiliates himself during the campaign.
They nerfed Peter and marry sued Miles. Which is so stupid, Miles is a cool and powerful enough character that you don’t have to nerf Peter to make him look good.
Yup, why are they treating Peter as this old man mentor who's not in his prime anymore when HE'S IN HIS MID 20'S!? The whole him trying to give up his mantle to Miles just felt so out of place. That's like Batman in his 30's just giving away his money to Robin and say "ok you got this, I'mma leave to my island" what happened to "with great power comes great responsibility" ig Peter just forgot.
How can Miles ever say "he's original" when he literally copied Spider-Man's entire identity? I've been saying this for a long time, Miles needs to pick his own identity if they wanna put him together with Peter in one universe. Originally Miles became Spider-Man because Peter DIED and he decided the world needed Spider-Man because it makes it a better place, Spider-Man is that important to him. So it makes sense then, but if Peter is still alive and active, he needs to be someone unique. Spider Gwen is a good example, that's just what WE call her. Her actual hero name is Ghost Spider, which is bad ass.
Im pretty sure Spiderman had a wingsuit in a comic book at some point. When i was a kid, i got a set of wingauit spiderman pyjamas, so it must've existed before this game.
That’s not a wing suit lol that’s just a design of webbing called web pits. Idk where you guys are getting your source material from or you’re just delusional and making it seem to be a wing suit cause it’s not lol in the comic it never once states “hey this is a wing suit” then show him gliding with the wing suit. Really true “fans” eh lol
Intahar stating he doesn't care and was willing to cut content in order to make room for pointless MJ missions plus the fact Miles is confirmed to be taking over when the whole game Peter and Wraith were hyping up Miles but shitting on Pete not to mention they set up Goblin and Carnage. I was arguing with someone as to why MJ missions were pointless. I said "We have 2 Spider-Men. Miles could've gone to investigate Conners as well as infiltrate the nest to get the meteor. Everything MJ did in this game from a gameplay standpoint, Miles could've done. MJ was more pointless than anything ESPECIALLY in the final act of the game."
To be fair, the story explains that they need someone to distract Venom (Peter) and someone to distract the symbiotes so the meteorite would be unguarded (Miles) so someone can get the Meteor without needing to fight both Venom and an army of Symbiotes in a more stealthy way. Saying “Miles could do both” kinda puts “too many eggs in 1 basket” as you need to hope Miles can both fight off both an army of symbiotes and get the meteorite before Venom realizes. Divide and conquer is a valuable strategy
@@venusstar2963 Miles can't stay invisible forever. At most he can sustain that for a few minutes tops. If Miles' cover is blown inside the nest (or when he steals the meteroite), Venom would know instantly what Spider-Man is going for and the jig would be up. He'd also be swarmed by every single Symbiote in the area. Another benefit of this plan is that even if MJ gets spotted, the Symbiotes will think she's just a civilian that wandered in or is a member of Oscorp's guard rather than a member of team Spidey so they aren't going to alert Venom or the hive. So by the time MJ steals the meteorite, there wouldn't be an army nearby to swarm them since they'd be drawn out fighting Miles. Team Spidey's current plan is basically the same idea that the Fellowship had in the Lord of Rings. Empty out the villain's territory by pretending to launch a direct assault at the front door with their strongest forces, so someone can stealthily sneak in. Nobody complains that Frodo is the one sneaking in instead of Gandalf. Also, in the comics, Spider-Man's powers essentially make him a magnet for Symbiotes so it is harder for him to perfect stealth past symbiotes.
@@FraserSouris While I understand your position on the matter, I think you are highly overestimating the intelligence of the individual symbiote warriors. I doubt they would care if Spiderman himself or a random citizen was caught inside their hive, they would let Venom know regardless. Considering that Sympiotes are more than capable of telepathically communicating with one another through their hivemind, its honestly shocking that Venom didn't know somebody was fighting his soldiers right outside where the stone was in the first place. It seems like a pretty major plothole they elected to ignore just so that MJ could have the spotlight, when Miles would have had an infinitely easier time stealthing his way in because of, you know, SUPERPOWERS. Additionally, even if Miles can't stay invisible forever, its far better than MJ can do, AND its not like the Symbiotes can detect him while he is invisible. Also, the symbiotes were already swarming Miles at the entrance and he was having relatively no issues fending them off, with invisibility plus super speed and agility I feel he could very easily get inside, steal the stone, and outmaneuver the symbiote grunts. MJ was a pointless addition to the plan.
@@venusstar2963 *>"I think you are highly overestimating the intelligence of the individual symbiote warriors. I doubt they would care if Spiderman himself or a random citizen was caught inside their hive, they would let Venom know regardless. "" its honestly shocking that Venom didn't know somebody was fighting his soldiers right outside where the stone was in the first place. It seems like a pretty major plothole they elected to ignore just so that MJ could have the spotlight, when Miles would have had an infinitely easier time stealthing his way in because of, you know, SUPERPOWERS."
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how much insomniac nerfed peter in this game compared to the other games. He can’t do anything in this game he can’t dodge cause his spider-sense is useless for some reason, he can’t lift basically anything now. Like the brick wall, the train and having trouble with a fridge. A damn fridge is just ridiculous that fridge would weigh nothing compared to what he has lifted before in the first game like the crane, mister negative’s tank , the train tracks, the helicopter and so much more it is just terrible with how they portrayed peter this game. This does not feel like someone who has been Spider-Man for 10 years he feels like a joke in this game and they better fix him in the third game if he somehow loss the anti-venom he better be shown how he was in Spider-Man ps4 and not this garbage version that was shown in this game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty no he definitely was nerfed if you are referring that he is stronger cause the symbiote and anti venom sure but I am talking about his base which was far weaker in this game compared to how strong he was in his first game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty peter put rhino on his ass before scorpion got there he was about to beat him and don’t even bring his fight against rhino in miles game he was protecting civilians,trying to create as less damage as possible and trying to teach miles how to be Spider-Man if he and rhino where alone peter would have won just like he would have in the ps4 game. Scorpion is not as fast as Pete that is just a straight up lie. Doc ock fights a heavily fatigued peter one who has 14 broken not to mention he broke more of Peters bones after he just got done fighting a bloodlusted Lee and he could barely stand up at feast the only reason he was able to still fight was because of his determination and the thought of losing aunt may. When it comes to his durability he is very inconsistent in sm2 he can got from getting smacked around by a buliding sized sandman but then go flying backwards from a hit that mj a normal person took head on it makes no sense if that hit can send peter flying then mj should be dead but if doesn’t kill mj then it should not be able to do anything to Peter it would be like hitting a wall. This is not me even mentioning him dying from a knife wound when he got worse wound form doc ock who stabbed through him unlike kraven who just got him in the side it did not even go through him unless you can prove to me that this knife is poisoned which I hear a lot of people bring up despite being there being no proof of it this a nerf. Plus if you actually read my comment there are plenty more examples just in that alone and that is still not all of them.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty in the termal you forgot Peter just got hit from a huge blast from a amped mister negative which destroyed the whole room plus it also manufactured his web shooters for a bit as he was clearly trying to web the gun away. Peter was down for 11 seconds under that fridge which is embarrassing when he recovered faster from being hit by the crane which is much much heavier then the fridge plus it was also swinging so that adds even more force and he still got up quicker. He may be fatigued but he is not nearly as fatigued as he was in ps4 having broken bones and barely being able to walk and he still performs better beating a stronger mister negative then the one in sm2 due to lee not hating Norman anymore which we know anger makes him stronger which miles almost lost to a weaker mister negative with new powers so yeah he got nerfed pretty hard in this game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty did you not read anything that I said he was just hit from a blast that just destroyed the entire room also getting out wasn’t the first thing he did he was Trying to go for the gun but his web-shooters were not working and I did not say he was fatigued in that scene he was stunned that is why he took so long and before you bring it up he should not be stunned by a fridge for that long these scenes are under completely different circumstances and not comparable.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsbltyyou did not read anything I said there are reasons he was down for so long. How was peter not exhausted in ps4 he broke bones while sm2 did not all sm2 peter was just tired not almost beaten to death like ps4 who was also tired for the whole game there are just no loop hole for this it is either bad writing or a nerf which might as well be the same thing.
@doktorweedus7659 not in amazing spider-man and probably not for most of his existence. The movie made him glide, peter would hope they'd catch air a bit if he ran out've web. Although I'll accept a few references, preferably from 1962-2000
This game is one of the biggest examples of Recency bias. This was a fun game but no where near a masterpiece . Keep up the long form content love your personality and editing
This game has far and wide one of the greatest traversal systems in all of gaming. Fine, recency bias is definitely a factor, but to act like this game isn't phenomenal is just stupid
wow new animations and speed and only TWO new mechanics make the game a MASATAERPIECE!! how tf does that make sense dude? 5 years, only 2 mechanics, one being usable, so like wtf @@lm_slayer1
@@lm_slayer1I agree on the traversal, and I also think people don’t know how to properly use the combat because when you are genuinely creative with it, it’s pretty exhilarating but besides that, the graphics, a few cool suits , the game is pretty average at most, and severely lacking on other areas for a triple A game. I’d say it’s serviceable at the very least, but depending on if you are new to the series, this game could be great to you, however if you are returning, I feel as if it’s at most just good. Phenomenal, well that’s were we disagree
Meh , pathetic , he just saying "angry" lines and........is that all? Seriously? WoS rips wolverine in half , kills brok and become king of symbiotes Tobi tried to kill sand man , destroy his best friend face , Hit woman that he love , destroy Broks Life I want to say that the arc of the symbiotic suit from Insomniac is very cowardly and childish, because there are no serious consequences from the black suit, instead Parker did it, he was rude to his friends (and he was generally right and spoke the facts), strangled Kraven a little and beat Morales a little not at full strength (because Parker realizes that this is Miles, his friend, and he is subconsciously holding back)! "Pathetic" "You f disappointment"
"No serious consequences" His arc led to his best frind becoming a supervilain and almost turning the city into an infected mess, turning his girlfriend into a symbiote (temporarely), and which led to that best friend ending in a coma, which led to his father's best friend hating his alter ego.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Literally none of those things were Peter's fault. Harry going nuts out of a mixture of desperation to save his own life and a withdrawal of the power of the symbiote isn't Peter's fault, you don't blame a doctor when they refuse an addict a prescription and then they kill someone. You can't even make the argument that Peter's negative emotions turned Venom either because from the very beginning Venom was already trying to ditch Harry for Peter and was just waiting for an opportunity, the thing was evil from the start which is a massive misunderstanding of the symbiotes as a whole.
@@venusstar2963 Yes you don't give a prescription to an addict but buddy He littarely had an occasion to destroy the suit when He saved Connors, but He decided to keep it which caused the third act, Yes there were other factors and yes Harry and MJ are also responsible but let's not act like Peter wasn't partially responsible, also Harry's bad mental health Wouldn't have gotten worse if Pete didn't insult him and acted like a jerk to him and was you know supportive when he was slowly dying would Harry still have become Venom ? maybe since the symbiote would still have Peter's anger but He probably have caused less damage. Also the symbiote wasn't evil sure it tried to latch on to Peter at first but it only copied Peter's logo it only thought Peter was interesting after that it was pretty chill .its only when Peter gets angry that the suit noticibly changes in behavior tho and starts corrupting him (mostly) completely.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 So you literally admitted that the suit was corrupting Peter even from the get-go to the point that when presented an opportunity to remove the suit he was physically repulsed by the notion and you see nothing off about that? It isn't exactly an exaggeration to say that the millisecond Peter had the Symbiote attached to him bro started viciously ragdolling Kraven's hunters like they were chew toys. Also come on, if a few insults, ones that mind you he wasn't exactly wrong about, is all it took to make Harry go bananas I'm surprised his unhinged ass didn't start killing people sooner. But for obligatory reasons I do have to remind you that Peter was not completely conscious of his own actions and was behaving in a way he would never act normally because of Venom.
@@venusstar2963No That's not What I meant, it didn't start from the get go He was acting rather normally and extremely aloof at the beginning ( example the honey joke) its only when he STARTS TO FEEL angry that the suit starts corrupting him. Has for Harry I said He probably would have turned to venom even if He was nice to him my point was that He made his mental state a bit worse, also "a couple insluts that were right" ok one he insulted him when he was EXTREMELY VULNERABLE mentally and physically, two He told Harry to pop some pills and to tell him how he really feels once again while He was DYING I don't need to say Why that's fucked up and would fuck up someone. Also yeah sure some of his actions like hunting down MJ are completely because of the symbiote but most of the time (since you made that addict and doctor analogy earlier) its like Alchool sure it makes you do things you wouldn't do but Unless it completely takes over your body most the things you do ( like him refusing to destroy the suit, being a dick yelling at MR Negative,thinking the suit made him better ) of your own will are still your own choices.
To be honest there's really no reason to put gliding into this game. It serves no purpose. People that don't know Peter sometimes does have web gliders on his suit will react like that guy, and for everyone else it's JUST a reference. How much dev time did they spend adding a pointless gliding mechanic when their web swinging is damn near perfect? Dev time is one of the most important resources in making a game. Time is everything, and if you spend it wrong, you get Anthem.
@@haku8135gliding is fine… but the stupid wind tunnels took away reasons for u to swing. It’s like giving Flash a teleportation ability… making him stop running.
actually fax, like spider-man 1 for me was a phenomenal experience yet the sequel which had 5 years to cook in the oven barely felt like it added much of anything, they couldve done much more with the mechanics and added way more features but instead we got a rushed game with a terribly paced story and boring side content honestly people glazing this game way too much, it was a great time but not as good as the OG
Just because someone liks the game, it doesn't mean they're biased. People have been vocal about their dislike for this game. The most toxic community is the Arkham community because you can't say anything bad about any of the games except Origins
Didn’t know people hate the gliders but I kinda liked that. Maybe if they made it like he can only glide a small distance and not just fly it would have been better
honestly i loved the shit out of most of this game, but hearing the director talk about how they deliberately doubled down on the biggest grievance from the first game really pissed me off. thinking you know better than pretty much everybody who shared their opinions on your studios debut superhero game is pure hubris. and not only did they double down on MJ's role in the story and gameplay, they also doubled down on her not being hot. they brought her down from a new york 6 to a new york 4. way to set the precedent for your fans that whenever they have a problem with something, you'll not only bring it back in full force, but make it even more egregious, so that you can farm ESG points on social media by calling people bigots for pointing it out. in SM3 she'll be a literal troglodyte, and if you have anything to say about it you'll be getting a knock on your door from the thought police
I guess but it seemed more Like he was trying to say That showing the world from all sides was a Part of Immersion he felt was integral to the game and that cutting MJ missions out felt to easy of a way out
would you prefer he wrote you a 10 page reply on the definition of woke? While his comment was somewhat ignorant. It takes nothing away from woke being a serious thing. Go play dustborn and concord, then tell me "woke ain't real CHUD" @@jadenhawkins6706
Can't imagine miles saying. Hey let's make a costume that narrows down who's the other spiderman with my distinctive hair style sticking out the top of the mask.
I wouldn't let Insomniac cook up another Spider-Man game until they get their act together, but the money always has other ideas. 5 months and I still feel this way, though Ratchet & Clank is still ok (for now anyway). And no, I'm not just saying this because I primarily use Xbox since I only have that for third party games, Sunset Overdrive (made by Insomniac, but they will never make another like it again on the road they're going down), Doritos' Crash Course, and Forza (I'm not an really FPS guy so I don't have any Halo), I'm saying this because I want Spidey to have the best games he can like Batman with the Arkham games.
@@jaydensanchez2002 I have a PC that costs 3x retail price of a PS5. I am currently playing Spider-Man 2 at 1440p@80fps, on higher settings than PS5. If you're too broke to afford the superior gaming platform, just say that. LOL brokie
@@Lua0x07 lol I’m not broke I’m glad u care that much I save money unlike you I don’t spend 3k on a shitty PC I’m smart on what I buy I played on my cousins PC and it’s actually crap and spider man 2 actually looks great on PS5 u play on a keyboard bro idk why I’m talking to you 🤣🤣🤣
Spider-Man PS4 I watched all the behind the scenes, all the interviews and thought Brian Intihar and the rest of the team are the man. But after hearing Brian say he doesn't give a shit I lost all respect for insomniac and won't be buying anything they make again.
I gotta agree here. I hated how much they dumbed down the game. The gadgets and powers are all just spammy aoe attacks and the traversal has become simplified. Its just flying now.
I didnt give a fuck about MJ missions until she started one shotting symbiotes that regularly kill especially taking out 1 or 2 behemoths. Forever stop that idea. Its not even overpowered its nonsensical.
just did a PLANT SIDEQUEST. i realized how important Biden's "BUILD BACK BETTER GREEN NEW DEAL" policy is, It was so important im honored to have an affiliation with it in a spiderman videogame. also i love all the alphabet people flags. helping a gay dude to prom with his boyfriend make me realize how the little things are important while playing a videogame, who wants to fight super villains and master combat techniques?
I could literally forgive everything about this game no questions asked if they hadn't butchered Peter's relationship with Black Cat by saying she had settled down and has a nameless girlfriend, like WHAT?! At least give us some interactions between her and Peter or something instead of shoving Miles in there. You cannot tell me the writer wasn't meat riding Miles throughout this whole game.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 nah it was an over packed jumbled mess of a story that doesn't really make you care enough about the characters instead the events that happen all because the dialogue sounds like marvel movie dialogue 😂
@@wkkqewqaver7766yeah we got Kraven with cyber suit and an army of military soldiers with lazer blasters for some reason when the whole point of Kraven was that he's a hunter living in the woods using spears and crossbows
@@the_madson and kraven for some reason is way too strong just because the developers couldn't find a different villain they forced kraven to be super super human.
Bryan Intihar if you don't care and don't give a shit about MJ being OP then why TF you even bothered to direct this game? No wonder the game didn't win a single award..well deserved
The director actually said that they had to cut other content from the game to make room for the MJ missions. We could've got those Venom city fights shown on the posters and commercials but we got MJ missions instead.
I really hope they update the game/add more enemy bases and challenges. I love Spider-Man 2, but the amount of stuff they removed from the previous games kind of had me disappointed and I wished they were more.
Thank you for actually making valid criticisms of this game. I'm tired of seeing these monkeys give it a 10/10 or say it deserved game of the year. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but it's honestly worse than the first game in my opinion, despite the fact that it has the better combat and swinging.
The literal top 2 villains Green goblin and doc ock are in the next game. This is speculation but I see Venom returning as a hero in sp3 since harry isnt dead and a venom game is planned.
I don't understand why they decided to put Harry in a coma instead of killing him. That would make a huge difference in the ending and give the next game a more reasonable foundation
The story and characters sucked Web swinging is restrictive and made for babies Combat is good but doesn't have any distinction between the Red suit and the Black Suit Suits are missing from the first game No wall combat MJ missions Miles is basically non existent in the story and is just there so they can claim to have 2 playable Spider-Men, even tho Edge Of Time and Shattered Dimensions did it first The game is like a 6/10 Web Of Shadows, Shattered Dimensions, Edge Of Time are still better The Insomniac games just feel like they are made for absolute newbies
I hated that peter in the black suit was rushed and venomnwas rusged felt like he little to none personality also why did he never once used a spiderman power ?
I just finished the game I really enjoyed it. Just wish we had more content after revealing we’re going to get carnage! The only bug I had was my spider man turning into a white cube and swinging around
Honestly, i understand wanting to make Mary Jane a hero, but if you want to do that, do it in a way that is consistent with the character. Having her beat up symbiotes and deadly hunters is just wrong. If he believes you don't need superpowers to be a hero, then you should also know that you don't need to beat down bad guys to be a hero. Having a overpowered gun and the ability to sneak past hunter already puts her in the realm of superheroes like black panther (stealth) and Tony stark (weapons). You could emphasize her impact by writing a greater story, Say, everyone hates spiderman after he gets the black suit. His public perception is damaged beyond repair, even after he ditches the suit. Mary jane goes through a lot of opposition trying to get public perceptions to change, especially because spiderman can't do his job properly and save lives, now that everyone is out to get him. She pulls it off and changes public perception, even putting herself in harms way to get compelling evidence to back up her claim. People praise her relentless effort and spiderman is forever indebted to her, now knowing how much the perception of people means to him, strengthening his resolve to forever be the friendly neighborhood spiderman. Simple, not that hard to come by. It's a basic plot of a detective trying to clear his client of wrong doing. And even though its cliche, it works. Maybe even have Jay Jonah Jameson be the one to accuse Spiderman of being the same as venom, unintentionally mistaking the two as the same, given their similarities, but using it to push the propaganda that spiderman is a manace..🤦🤦i mean, all the ground work is already there. Also you could use the opportunity to make spiderman beat up some cops😂, like make him commit a serious offense as a symbiote that makes the public turning against him really believable and make the player play it. This way you can satisfy your angenda to defund the police by getting them beat them up instead of outrightly removing them from the game. And at the same time you can support the agenda to better equip the police, cause if they were, they'll be better prepared to handle crime of this scale. That's how you appeal to both sides of the political space without leaning too much in one direction.
Who actually believes Peter who looks like he is in middle school is a college professor, and dating someone who could be his mom…lol that just kills it for me
That guy saying he doesn’t give a shii literally giving dichead energy like prioritizing MJ missions over alot of stuff really ruined the game there are alot of things missing in the story and in the gameplay that could have used more attention! But nooo we gotta focus on MJ missions so dumb! This is why i didn’t purchase the game and this is why i am not gonna play the game unless its free. And why did they change all the character models its so annoying and dumb! Like just leave the same ppl it was perfect why did they have to change everyone peter was perfect mj was perfect harry was really perfect and they changed him into some weird looking little nerd first spiderman was peak and spiderman 2 is the death of the game.
bro why is people complaining about the gliding? flying squirrel, why gliding suit? BRO making stuff up is crazy. It was legit in the movie far from home, bro does not watch the movie the guy who called him a flying squirrel
i hate how gameplay wise peter and miles are the same like why did they take away all peters web gadgets? whey can he boost himself in the air with his fucking spider arms?? how does that make any sense? i get miles with his venom powers doing it but peter just feels weird you should absolutely have different playstyles for the different spidermen but instead its just basically a suit change
Marvel's Spider-Man (2018) is one of my all time favourite games, it was a near perfect single player experience. The game play was brilliant, the graphics and soundtrack were amazing, the story was beautiful, and all the voice actors did a great job with their roles. I platinumed the first game with about 40 or so total hours of play time. I was very much excited to play the sequel, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, and while I mostly enjoyed it, I was disappointed, especially considering how much I loved the first game, and how I was really looking forward to playing the sequel. Graphically, the sequel looks better, and thanks to the PS5's hardware, loading times were super fast and the fast travel mechanics were speedy and clever. I also appreciated the new traversal mechanics, such as the web glider wings, and I very much appreciated having the ability to play as either Peter Parker and Miles Morales, and I enjoyed the expanded New York City which now includes Brooklyn and Queens. The story was good, but in my opinion, it wasn't as strong as the first game. What I found strange was that despite the fact the game had a larger overall environment to explore, as well as two characters to play as, the overall content seemed... less? Basically, I platinumed Marvel's Spider-Man 2 in about 25 hours, where as mentioned above, it took me about 40 hours to platinum the first game. I was also disappointed to see that the second game was lacking additional features, such as character description biographies, and that gadgets seemed a little simplified. No new game plus mode at launch was also a bit sad. Unlike the first game, I also experienced my fair share of bugs in Marvel's Spider-Man 2, including getting stuck in buildings and objects, things disappearing on me (like an NPC I needed to talk to for a mission), as well as the game outright crashing. When I played Marvel's Spider-Man back in 2018 on the PS4, I don't recall experiencing any bug, same goes for when I replayed the remastered version on the PS5, no bugs. To add a bit more, I didn't experience any bugs with Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales at PS5 launch. Personally, while I didn't enjoy the Mary Jane missions of the first game, I felt they were better than the second one. I understand that in the second game, they tried to change up Mary Jane's stealth segments to be faster paced, but it took me out of the immersion. I also understand that Mary Jane briefly mentions that she received training from Silver Sable whilst she and Peter travelled to Symkaria, but... I'm pretty sure Peter and Mary Jane were only in Symkaria for a few weeks (hence their absence from Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales)? As someone who has personally been training in martial arts (judo, over 15 years and still going), I know it can take a long time, and consistency, to get competent with physical training related to combat. That being said, I also understand that it's all fiction, comic book stuff etc. I was hoping that Marvel's Spider-Man 2 would be my Game of the Year for 2023, but it was easily, in my opinion, defeated by Baldur's Gate III, followed closely by The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.
i don’t understand the web-wings criticism💀 it’s not necessarily forced down your throat, just don’t use them unless the gameplay requires you to if you hate it that much. people acting like it’s an overused gimmick like the batmobile in arkham knight
I enjoyed the game but the climax was annoying af. So much combat at the end. I got an absolute headache having to fight of hordes of enemies and the boss fights made me angry. The fact that the game made you fight MJ Venom three or four times pissed me off.
2:58 you think you had to do more here than in new Spiderman? You basically press a few buttons when they pop up on the screen, You don't get to decide how you take them down or anything, it's all prerendered. That's why I hate these games, you're not really in control. It's more like watching a movie and you press buttons when asked to.
The only reason I’m not playing this game is because I’m not going to save the city and go back home to a transgender hobo goblin girlfriend lookin ass.
I'm willing to bet the MJ missions were pushed because of Sweet Baby Inc. They're all about what they personally want instead of what the fans want. Also, i noticed that Miles gets a bit more attention in this game. Once again, Sweet Baby gotta use diversity for their narrative.
"I am sorry" moment in the park was just... Motherfucking awful. Spiderman will do anything to save people. He will hurt himself and sacrifice himself if this is the only way.
How ? One of Peter Parker biggest character flaws is how he blames himself for everything, (It's litteraly a character flaw in the PS4 game) uncle Ben's death is litteraly a prime example if you don't believe me.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 There's a difference between someone feeling like they bear the weight of the world on their shoulders, like they are burdened with the responsibility and duty of helping people because they have the power to do so... Over being a literal doormat for everyone around them.
@@venusstar2963 He isn't a doormat the closest part where He is one is arguably the Scream boss fight and even Then He is trying to descalate things by calming MJ down and apoligysing (which ends up working).
The gameplay was phenomenal. It was a MASSIVE step up from the first game. The map was also greatly improved and expanded… that being said, the story felt so lack luster compared to the first. That scene with May ripped my heart out of my chest and reminded me why I love the OG Spider-Man so much. The ending in the sequel felt weak… and the emotional punch, while present, was harshly lessened… and ultimately ruined by Peter softly retiring to curl up next to Mary Jane’s boots. He was so nerfed in the final act it’s not even funny. Miles had to constantly save the day in the end while Peter was an apologetic crybaby. It actually reminded me of why I don’t like Miles. Since he was always created to replace Peter at some point, and he officially did in the Insomniac games going forward. Yes I know Peter will be back in the third game, but he’ll likely kick the bucket by the end so it can be a 100% replacement. I’m just gonna call that now. I’m just tired of Miles always being forced into Peter’s life every time there’s a new Spider-Man story, because his existence and presence is a constant reminder that Miles is intended to push Peter out of the Spider-Man role so he can take up the mantle that was never his to begin with. Miles (the character in general, not necessarily just the insomniac version) has literally been given Peter’s suit, his gadgets, his rogues, his Allie’s, his personality, his love interests, and even his drive to be Spider-Man…… because Peter is mostly now depicted as a depressed quitter who hates being Spider-Man while Miles is depicted as an excited good hearted person who lives to be Spider-Man and save lives… something Peter used to be. Everything that’s good about Peter/Spider-Man was given to Miles, and Peter was left with the downer depressing side of being Spider-Man. Right on brand for Miles. Peter used to be the one and only Spider-Man. He was unique, and had his own edge… but they’ve watered him down significantly where now he’s just a random face in an infinite sea of Spider-Powered-People who all have been through similar struggles. There’s nothing Special about Spider-Man and especially Peter anymore, because anything that WAS was given to the other Spider-Verse characters.
I didn't like how the combat system wasn't improved upon, it's literally the same as in 1 minus all the cool gadgets and special suit powers. They've could've added skill trees for the spider legs and venom powers and changed the basic combos. You definitely had way more combo variety in 1 and even though i like the fact we got returning suits from the previous games since there are some i like a lot, it took away from new content being added. Another thing that i missed was the missions with waves of enemies to fight, there was less of those mission types in general and not as much to do as in 1.
Combat and stealth got worser symbiote peter is just a reskin of red suit if you dont use hes abilietes and they removed all 8 gadgets from the previous game.
I've had my issues with SM 2 and I think its a great game on a stand-alone basis, but when comparing it to the first game and miles, it was just pure trash. Whats even sadder is that Insomniac built a massive fanbase of sad and pathetic basement dwellers who've made the studio immune to even constructive criticism at this point, which is why Insomniac will keep getting away with bad decisions and even allowing Bryan Intihar for saying what he said on not giving a shit abt MJ bein OP. I'm honestly worried abt Wolverine now and quite frankly if the quality of tht and future games go down, id have to blame the fanboys only
I wouldn't mind the "less interactive" elements (random crime etc) if they happened only sometimes to add variety visually, and to show Peter's skill progression from game 1 to 2. The problem is that they just... Removed features
I may of hated the car part in the original game but I think them completely change it to pressing one button, I think they should of added something for people who like the car part (when you press buttons to stop the car) and people like me who hated it and press one button, but I 100% on the suit power part
Could of had a mission where you face off against a marvel hero or something, had a wolverine cameo or any one of the many villains could of briefly appeared, but I'm helping people find pigeons and ask their boyfriend to prom
Bro we’ve done so many car chase scenes in Spider-Man games it’s getting old honestly. I can care less it’s one button that’s prolly the reason why they made jt like that.
Imagine you bought a game about Wonder Woman and then a sizeable portion of the missions were about s Steve Trevor and Diana could not do anything without Donna or Cassie .
I don't really have a problem with him saying he wanted to prioritise MJ missions being fun if it meant her being a little OP. It's not like they're huge parts of the game.
I agree with everything you said, and another think I dislike about the game is the suits. Insomniac started giving us original suits that no one ever asked for as if they were doing a fashion show, all of their original designs look over designed and just bad in general. They should have given us all the Spider-Man 1 suits back plus new comic suits. Another thing I dislike is the gadgets being removed like the electric webs or the web traps (whatever the name was) and the web bomb. The gadgets in this game are basically just there for players to spam and gain no satisfaction from. The old gadget wheel had a variety of gadgets you could use and each one was unique. Spider-Man 2's release was a disappointment compared to Spider-Man PS4's in 2018.
I almost hated this game, but my love from the other 2 kept me hanging in there. It's not a good sequel. Mediocre story, super boring side stuff, the MJ missions can go to hell. The fighting was fun and web gliding. That's it, oh top notch graphics though. But man this was not worth the wait at all. I played the other two for hundreds of hours, and that's just the gang bases. Max difficulty, no hits 300combo or more. Is it just me but almost everything sucks now.
Thr combat is not as smooth. Dodging and parry feel off. I miss the autonomy of the gadget wheel, too. The special attacks in this take away from the characters, just like Iron Mans Spidey suit undermined Peter in the MCU. The wings are a nice touch. The city is great. But the game holds your hand too much. Prompts for absolutely everything and the bugs keep breaking whatever immersion i feel.
I hate how they make Miles this fawless hero. Mary Jane this "badass" and victim of Peters life because Peter chose to be a hero that risk his life to save other people...
Played the game once shortly after release, but haven't touched it since, even with the updates, etc. I will play through it again someday, but overall, story-wise, the first game was better even with it's flaws. The MJ parts in that game, while not great, didn't bother me. What gets me is the director's smugness accompanied with being proud of the aspects people don't like or appreciate. If you want Peter and MJ to have problems, do it in a balanced way (also, just because a lot of young people can "relate" to moving in with a bf/gf irl, doesn't mean you have to emulate that in a game. Statistically it's better to get married before cohabitation; Have the characters look into this and be positive examples in everyday life choices too). If you want to make Miles look great, don't do it at Peter's expense. Have Peter consider the ramifications of stepping back so Miles can spearhead more. Let him weigh what happened last time he tried to avoid responsibility, and let him share that with Miles too. If they NEEDED to have MJ focused missions, have one in the main story, but then have a series of side quests where you can play as MJ in a variety of ways as she undergoes her investigations. Maybe she could have been the one to piece together Chameleon, for example.
Insomniac is trying so hard to do the "old" rocksteady batman formula, ya know to "take the game, and improve everything" but when i look at Spiderman 2 i see some improvments but alot of downgrades
They already showed how ordinary people can be heroes in spider-man 1with aunt May's sacrifice. She didn't have superpowers or elite marksmanship. Just a kind heart and courage.
But the suit was dope
Bryan should make Man 3 instead of spiderman 3
Your right but there's a giant difference between a hero and a super hero and this game seems to not understand the difference
And Miles Morales' dad as well.
Eh. In some situations, you kinda need more direct help than the indirect kind from regular folk. In the moment, having someone fighting the Symbiotes or directly helping team Spidey would help them defeat Venom faster.
My main problem with the game is the pacing of it, I wish we had more scenes of agent venom and more of venom too with him turning this world into a giant goob for celestial parasite and I wish the story of it was better too.
Thanks to bryan intihar🤣💀
@@TrulyAB yeah bro’s about to become the next Neil Druckmann. 💀
lmao the next Neil Cuckmann@@Stefanovalentine55496
@@TrulyAB😂😂
Speaking of story, at what point after the goop took Conners arm did Norman say “yea this will cure my sons disease”
The symbiote storyline is way too rushed.
It was just horrible. The only thing I liked was the Peter boss fight
@@adiasdiante1010 Too easy. It should have been like dark link from Zelda, only with Spider-Man
@@SuperAlfern that's how VENOM is supposed to feel he was too easy as well .
Couldn’t agree more. Kraven should have been the focus
@estebansamra7255 this is the first time I liked Kraven in a video game.
So everyone just universally hates this suit? Good
absolutely
The suit deserves every ounce of hate it gets.
looking like a crest toothpaste
Idk tho I actually did like the suit it not the worse suit out there but ain't the best
@@ghetto_samurai21nah mate it’s terrible
Keep in mind this is a 70$ game with no new game plus and downgraded version of the original game.
I can just walk into a cex near my work experience and buy the original for €25.
And it's not even on other platforms except PS5, imagine NOT being on PC at least, how dare they.
What do you mean? I'm playing on PC right now lol
@@MarcelSoares777 You're playing Spiderman 2 on PC? How, where did you get it from, I know you didn't get it off of steam, so where?
@@ImAgentK Last Sony breach the game got leaked. Runs smooth for me, If you search aroumd tou find it
The main issues that I have with the game that really pissed me off the most were the side content, lack of replayable content, and lack of quality of life features. There is so little to replay in this game that it's stupid. There's no combat challenges outside of the mysteriums, and even then, you can only play those as miles. There's no stealth challenges and no traversal challenges. Nothing. And the enemy bases are pathetic to say the least.
Spider-Man 1 had four kinds of enemy bases, Miles Morales add two kind of enemy bases yet this game only has one. And they aren't even replayable.
And the missing quality of life features really did tick me off. There's nowhere for you to change into miles or Peter after you beat the main story, you can't parry with your spider arms and can only parry with your anti-venom arms even if you're not wearing a symbiote suit, you can't switch the colors of the Symbiote Back to Black and you're just stuck with White Once you beat the main game
There's no podcast player, so if your podcast gets cut off because you go into combat or start of mission, you're just screwed.
There's no selfie option in photo mode, no social media feed, and there's not even a freaking character bios.
I want to give this game a 10 because I really really enjoyed it but the lack of pretty much anything to do and missing content that is stupidly left out just drops it to like an 7-8.
Amazing comment bro, thinking just like me fr.
@@TrulyABI also forgot to add this to my comment but they completely downgraded the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man app. In miles morales, you could pick any side mission and choose specific crimes that you wanted to replay at any time. Now once you 100% the game, the only thing the FNSM app can do is to just let you switch between Peter and Miles.
Hopefully Insomniac add more updates to add more content. They are already planning on adding in Mission replay New Game Plus and the ability to change weather in a future update so hopefully they add an update to FNSM app.
And they also need to add more suits. There is not a single animated suit that is not a spider verse suit. Miles gets three suits yet Peter only gets one and it's not even his own suit. The suit selection is questionable sometimes. How the hell are they going to add the Strike Suit yet not the Winter suit?
@@seeonaga1524This is very true lol, I was getting irritated while trying to gather footage for the high speed car chase crime. Since I can't specifically choose that mission, I had to get lucky.
@@seeonaga1524did you also know the naming of the suits are terrible
You show MJ, THE SUPPORTING CHARACTER, as being strong in her own right via her information, intel and strategies, not how many symbiotes she can gun down! She's not that kind of hero!!!! WHAT DID YOU CUT TO PUT THESE IN HERE?! THE GAME ALREADY FEELS RUSHED
They probably played Resident Evil and figured that unless a woman was in distress she's got to be the bestestest EVAR
That last mission with her just had me thinking I wandered into a Dead Space game by accident lol.
@@isaacalexander5286 It seems it. Her gun is so OP it can one or two shot symbiotes and even lets her comfortably take down a brute, even though neither Spider-Man can easily dispatch symbiotes and require entire combos with special attacks to take down Brutes. Her sections are too much. As much as they are actually entertaining unlike the first game, they still shouldn't have been here in place of more Spidey stuff.
Exactly, how is she able to take out trained henchmen? Lore wise she was trained a bit, but not like the henchmen who all probably are military mercenaries with years of training, but apparently a Karen with a taser is more powerful. Peter just feels like a side character when he's next to MJ or Miles.
@@Ligmaballin Fucking YES. I liked it hinting that she had at least a few months of training from Sable, but that isn't nearly enough to make her survive going up against a single one of Kraven's Hunters who have easily decades of training, most of them likely since they could walk, and have trained extensively under Kraven himself. Her mission should have been an entire stalker-enemy section against a single Kraven Hunter wherein she eventually defeats him at the very end, purely because he was getting so mad about not catching one woman.
The aftermath of the section, once MJ was found and behind bars, should have literally had some Hunters in the background jabbing at him that he should go back to training so he can focus instead of getting blind with rage. I stress again that those sections were at least fun this time around, but they just painted her as being far too OP. Never mind that she escaped and beat Kraven Hunters with a taser, but she also fucking escaped from the Symbiote while it was piloting SPIDER-MAN. That's not fucking possible.
And yeah, Pete just feels like nothing. They spend most of the damn game beating him down and making him seem lesser than he ever was or ever should be just because they really, really wanted Miles to take over. Ideally the game should have been a good five or six hours longer, minimum, had ten extra missions and a larger time frame, so we could see Pete degrading under the symbiote for way longer. He should have been treated like he was still at his peak, even beyond it, but was going about it destructively because he was relying on the symbiote, as it was ripping out all his repressed grief and rage from Aunt May dying. Him being depressed shouldn't have ever weakened him, and the worst part about that explanation is it is not at all hinted at in-game, since he doesn't improve or get treated better at all after "getting over it" when he gets Anti-Venom.
The end game should have seen Venom mortally injure Spider-Man as Harry was unable to control it, who proceeded to finally let the damn break, begged for forgiveness, and *_used Anti-Venom to burn the symbiote and unfortunately kill Harry too._*
After being so grievously injured, Peter should survive only thanks to the Anti-Venom symbiote's bond with him, and he should give up the mantle of Spider-Man due to never in his mind being able to live down that he killed his own best friend, all of it rooting back to the fact that he let a moment of weakness start it all. He realises that such a mistake can't lie, and even though he's still plenty powerful and can physically keep being a hero, he'll never be able to look at all those murals and paintings around the town of him "saving" the city from Venom, because all he would ever see if himself killing Harry.
It should have been respectful, sombre, and he shouldn't have been treated as a complete punching bag across the story. The first insomniac Spider-Man was great, the MIles spin-off felt like a somewhat decent, somewhat meh DLC, and the third game just completely fumbled the entire universe. On top of everything it did with treating Peter the way it did, killing off most of the world's villains (mostly off-screen too) only to then also kill Kraven and Venom makes the entire world feel tiny because none of the rogues we know and love are there anymore.
Tl;dr it was horribly done and completely disappointing story-wise, and the better gameplay and movement just doesn't make up for it. It's the only Spider-Man game I've never replayed even once.
MJ isn't a hero. She used to be a super model that was an important emotional anchor for Peter.
These dumb game designers decided to make her ugly and an overpowered badass. They have zero respect for the source material.
Could you imagine going to watch an NBA game, and every 10 minutes all the players wives came out on the court to demand that they get equal recognition.
It's madness.
fr
She does not look that bad but whatever.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Have you looked at her jaw? It's so thick that she could slam it into bricks to break them.
Reminds me of Barron Von Underbite from Venture Brothers. Look him up.
@@Nazraq04 I looked him up and you lost even more credibility than you did before her jaw line does not look that bad. Also Personally I care more about the emotional anchor aspect of MJ (which she is in those games)not the super hot model one.
I agree with you but yall do realise this is a human in real life modelling as mj right I don't want to be biased like I get the designer didn't do well but calling a voice actress ugly is disrespectful
If we compare Peter from Spiderman and spiderman 2 , You can see that Peter from spiderman 2 CANT DO ANYTHING UNTIL MILES SHOWS UP TO HELP. WHEN IN THE FIRST GAME HE DID ALL THE PROBLEMS SOLO
I guess they were trying to show that miles is relevant and necessary
Because Miles is THE Spiderman. Peter is just an imposter.
@@Shome2049only because peter got nerfed
Fr bro in the first game peter can handle like 2-3 villains at a time but in the sequel he gets his shit oushedin by sandman only?
That they told us he beat easily before?pretty sure he gets hit in every cutscene in that fight
It’s because he’s like 2 years older than when he was in the first game. He’s going to mess up a bit. I think it makes it look better when he gets the symbiot suit
I hated the fact that the final act of the game Peter becomes a Whiney constantly apologizing loser ON TOP of being nerfed and spending a whole 50 percent of the final act knocked out or wounded or needing assistance. It got so grating and got me so annoyed not befitting the OG and disrespectful AF
They want to promote the negro spiderman that's why
Peter wasn't nerfed he just faced bigger treats than it the first game, and what's wrong with him apoligizing exactly ? spiderman can't be emotional, look I have problems with this game but your criticisms are not that good.
@@malikpierre-louis3343you shouldn't have to or feel obligated to apologize for something that isn't your fault, and Peter does it constantly
@@Morningstarr874 It's in character for spiderman to apoligise or blame himself for things he isn't nescerally always to blame for.
@@malikpierre-louis3343the problem isn't that peter apologizes, it's the way it's poorly written and poorly choreographed as possible, peter in this second game is really lame, firstly that the villains' buff in this game is pathetic just to make up an excuse like venom not having weaknesses to almost nothing, which completely deviates from the reality of what villains are, and secondly, emotions should make Peter stronger and not weaker, he has always been like this in several stories, he always stood up and was not diminished, the amount of The excuses that Peter keeps asking throughout the campaign are absurd, he apologizes for everything for no reason, with everyone, even the villains, he apologizes, and Peter himself humiliates himself during the campaign.
They nerfed Peter and marry sued Miles. Which is so stupid, Miles is a cool and powerful enough character that you don’t have to nerf Peter to make him look good.
Yup, why are they treating Peter as this old man mentor who's not in his prime anymore when HE'S IN HIS MID 20'S!? The whole him trying to give up his mantle to Miles just felt so out of place. That's like Batman in his 30's just giving away his money to Robin and say "ok you got this, I'mma leave to my island" what happened to "with great power comes great responsibility" ig Peter just forgot.
How can Miles ever say "he's original" when he literally copied Spider-Man's entire identity?
I've been saying this for a long time, Miles needs to pick his own identity if they wanna put him together with Peter in one universe. Originally Miles became Spider-Man because Peter DIED and he decided the world needed Spider-Man because it makes it a better place, Spider-Man is that important to him. So it makes sense then, but if Peter is still alive and active, he needs to be someone unique.
Spider Gwen is a good example, that's just what WE call her. Her actual hero name is Ghost Spider, which is bad ass.
"what the f*** are you wearing...? That shi** a** bro lmaoooo
Im pretty sure Spiderman had a wingsuit in a comic book at some point. When i was a kid, i got a set of wingauit spiderman pyjamas, so it must've existed before this game.
It was even featured in the very first spiderman comic ever 😂👍
He never used them to fly/glide. It was purely part of his design. Retard normies
That’s not a wing suit lol that’s just a design of webbing called web pits. Idk where you guys are getting your source material from or you’re just delusional and making it seem to be a wing suit cause it’s not lol in the comic it never once states “hey this is a wing suit” then show him gliding with the wing suit. Really true “fans” eh lol
@@Jesusisking797 🤣👍
Intahar stating he doesn't care and was willing to cut content in order to make room for pointless MJ missions plus the fact Miles is confirmed to be taking over when the whole game Peter and Wraith were hyping up Miles but shitting on Pete not to mention they set up Goblin and Carnage. I was arguing with someone as to why MJ missions were pointless. I said "We have 2 Spider-Men. Miles could've gone to investigate Conners as well as infiltrate the nest to get the meteor. Everything MJ did in this game from a gameplay standpoint, Miles could've done. MJ was more pointless than anything ESPECIALLY in the final act of the game."
To be fair, the story explains that they need someone to distract Venom (Peter) and someone to distract the symbiotes so the meteorite would be unguarded (Miles) so someone can get the Meteor without needing to fight both Venom and an army of Symbiotes in a more stealthy way.
Saying “Miles could do both” kinda puts “too many eggs in 1 basket” as you need to hope Miles can both fight off both an army of symbiotes and get the meteorite before Venom realizes.
Divide and conquer is a valuable strategy
@@FraserSouris So miles just doesn't have invisibility huh?
@@venusstar2963 Miles can't stay invisible forever. At most he can sustain that for a few minutes tops. If Miles' cover is blown inside the nest (or when he steals the meteroite), Venom would know instantly what Spider-Man is going for and the jig would be up. He'd also be swarmed by every single Symbiote in the area.
Another benefit of this plan is that even if MJ gets spotted, the Symbiotes will think she's just a civilian that wandered in or is a member of Oscorp's guard rather than a member of team Spidey so they aren't going to alert Venom or the hive. So by the time MJ steals the meteorite, there wouldn't be an army nearby to swarm them since they'd be drawn out fighting Miles.
Team Spidey's current plan is basically the same idea that the Fellowship had in the Lord of Rings. Empty out the villain's territory by pretending to launch a direct assault at the front door with their strongest forces, so someone can stealthily sneak in. Nobody complains that Frodo is the one sneaking in instead of Gandalf.
Also, in the comics, Spider-Man's powers essentially make him a magnet for Symbiotes so it is harder for him to perfect stealth past symbiotes.
@@FraserSouris While I understand your position on the matter, I think you are highly overestimating the intelligence of the individual symbiote warriors. I doubt they would care if Spiderman himself or a random citizen was caught inside their hive, they would let Venom know regardless.
Considering that Sympiotes are more than capable of telepathically communicating with one another through their hivemind, its honestly shocking that Venom didn't know somebody was fighting his soldiers right outside where the stone was in the first place. It seems like a pretty major plothole they elected to ignore just so that MJ could have the spotlight, when Miles would have had an infinitely easier time stealthing his way in because of, you know, SUPERPOWERS.
Additionally, even if Miles can't stay invisible forever, its far better than MJ can do, AND its not like the Symbiotes can detect him while he is invisible. Also, the symbiotes were already swarming Miles at the entrance and he was having relatively no issues fending them off, with invisibility plus super speed and agility I feel he could very easily get inside, steal the stone, and outmaneuver the symbiote grunts. MJ was a pointless addition to the plan.
@@venusstar2963
*>"I think you are highly overestimating the intelligence of the individual symbiote warriors. I doubt they would care if Spiderman himself or a random citizen was caught inside their hive, they would let Venom know regardless. "" its honestly shocking that Venom didn't know somebody was fighting his soldiers right outside where the stone was in the first place. It seems like a pretty major plothole they elected to ignore just so that MJ could have the spotlight, when Miles would have had an infinitely easier time stealthing his way in because of, you know, SUPERPOWERS."
8:14 You don't need powers you just need a few days of training and a taser to be a hero
Then u can take down professional hunters that can fight against spiderman
@@rarecomment1941 Exactly, you get it!
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how much insomniac nerfed peter in this game compared to the other games. He can’t do anything in this game he can’t dodge cause his spider-sense is useless for some reason, he can’t lift basically anything now. Like the brick wall, the train and having trouble with a fridge. A damn fridge is just ridiculous that fridge would weigh nothing compared to what he has lifted before in the first game like the crane, mister negative’s tank , the train tracks, the helicopter and so much more it is just terrible with how they portrayed peter this game. This does not feel like someone who has been Spider-Man for 10 years he feels like a joke in this game and they better fix him in the third game if he somehow loss the anti-venom he better be shown how he was in Spider-Man ps4 and not this garbage version that was shown in this game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty no he definitely was nerfed if you are referring that he is stronger cause the symbiote and anti venom sure but I am talking about his base which was far weaker in this game compared to how strong he was in his first game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty peter put rhino on his ass before scorpion got there he was about to beat him and don’t even bring his fight against rhino in miles game he was protecting civilians,trying to create as less damage as possible and trying to teach miles how to be Spider-Man if he and rhino where alone peter would have won just like he would have in the ps4 game.
Scorpion is not as fast as Pete that is just a straight up lie.
Doc ock fights a heavily fatigued peter one who has 14 broken not to mention he broke more of Peters bones after he just got done fighting a bloodlusted Lee and he could barely stand up at feast the only reason he was able to still fight was because of his determination and the thought of losing aunt may.
When it comes to his durability he is very inconsistent in sm2 he can got from getting smacked around by a buliding sized sandman but then go flying backwards from a hit that mj a normal person took head on it makes no sense if that hit can send peter flying then mj should be dead but if doesn’t kill mj then it should not be able to do anything to Peter it would be like hitting a wall.
This is not me even mentioning him dying from a knife wound when he got worse wound form doc ock who stabbed through him unlike kraven who just got him in the side it did not even go through him unless you can prove to me that this knife is poisoned which I hear a lot of people bring up despite being there being no proof of it this a nerf.
Plus if you actually read my comment there are plenty more examples just in that alone and that is still not all of them.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty in the termal you forgot Peter just got hit from a huge blast from a amped mister negative which destroyed the whole room plus it also manufactured his web shooters for a bit as he was clearly trying to web the gun away.
Peter was down for 11 seconds under that fridge which is embarrassing when he recovered faster from being hit by the crane which is much much heavier then the fridge plus it was also swinging so that adds even more force and he still got up quicker.
He may be fatigued but he is not nearly as fatigued as he was in ps4 having broken bones and barely being able to walk and he still performs better beating a stronger mister negative then the one in sm2 due to lee not hating Norman anymore which we know anger makes him stronger which miles almost lost to a weaker mister negative with new powers so yeah he got nerfed pretty hard in this game.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsblty did you not read anything that I said he was just hit from a blast that just destroyed the entire room also getting out wasn’t the first thing he did he was Trying to go for the gun but his web-shooters were not working and I did not say he was fatigued in that scene he was stunned that is why he took so long and before you bring it up he should not be stunned by a fridge for that long these scenes are under completely different circumstances and not comparable.
@Gr8PwrGr8Rspnsbltyyou did not read anything I said there are reasons he was down for so long.
How was peter not exhausted in ps4 he broke bones while sm2 did not
all sm2 peter was just tired not almost beaten to death like ps4 who was also tired for the whole game there are just no loop hole for this it is either bad writing or a nerf which might as well be the same thing.
"since when can spider-man glide"
Amazing Fantasy #15 is at the door wanting a word
The web wings have no function like that in the comics. Theyre just a part of the suit.
@@SuperAlfern there are numerous other comics where they function
@@doktorweedus7659 Ok.
@doktorweedus7659 not in amazing spider-man and probably not for most of his existence. The movie made him glide, peter would hope they'd catch air a bit if he ran out've web. Although I'll accept a few references, preferably from 1962-2000
@zionharris9432 he still glided in comics whether you like it or not. Then movies used them now spiderman in his own game.
This game is one of the biggest examples of Recency bias. This was a fun game but no where near a masterpiece . Keep up the long form content love your personality and editing
Thank you so much :)
This game has far and wide one of the greatest traversal systems in all of gaming. Fine, recency bias is definitely a factor, but to act like this game isn't phenomenal is just stupid
@@lm_slayer1it’s not phenomenal, don’t use that word easily.
wow new animations and speed and only TWO new mechanics make the game a MASATAERPIECE!! how tf does that make sense dude? 5 years, only 2 mechanics, one being usable, so like wtf @@lm_slayer1
@@lm_slayer1I agree on the traversal, and I also think people don’t know how to properly use the combat because when you are genuinely creative with it, it’s pretty exhilarating but besides that, the graphics, a few cool suits , the game is pretty average at most, and severely lacking on other areas for a triple A game. I’d say it’s serviceable at the very least, but depending on if you are new to the series, this game could be great to you, however if you are returning, I feel as if it’s at most just good. Phenomenal, well that’s were we disagree
Meh , pathetic , he just saying "angry" lines and........is that all? Seriously?
WoS rips wolverine in half , kills brok and become king of symbiotes
Tobi tried to kill sand man , destroy his best friend face , Hit woman that he love , destroy Broks Life
I want to say that the arc of the symbiotic suit from Insomniac is very cowardly and childish, because there are no serious consequences from the black suit, instead Parker did it, he was rude to his friends (and he was generally right and spoke the facts), strangled Kraven a little and beat Morales a little not at full strength (because Parker realizes that this is Miles, his friend, and he is subconsciously holding back)!
"Pathetic"
"You f disappointment"
"No serious consequences" His arc led to his best frind becoming a supervilain and almost turning the city into an infected mess, turning his girlfriend into a symbiote (temporarely), and which led to that best friend ending in a coma, which led to his father's best friend hating his alter ego.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 Literally none of those things were Peter's fault. Harry going nuts out of a mixture of desperation to save his own life and a withdrawal of the power of the symbiote isn't Peter's fault, you don't blame a doctor when they refuse an addict a prescription and then they kill someone.
You can't even make the argument that Peter's negative emotions turned Venom either because from the very beginning Venom was already trying to ditch Harry for Peter and was just waiting for an opportunity, the thing was evil from the start which is a massive misunderstanding of the symbiotes as a whole.
@@venusstar2963 Yes you don't give a prescription to an addict but buddy He littarely had an occasion to destroy the suit when He saved Connors, but He decided to keep it which caused the third act, Yes there were other factors and yes Harry and MJ are also responsible but let's not act like Peter wasn't partially responsible, also Harry's bad mental health Wouldn't have gotten worse if Pete didn't insult him and acted like a jerk to him and was you know supportive when he was slowly dying would Harry still have become Venom ? maybe since the symbiote would still have Peter's anger but He probably have caused less damage.
Also the symbiote wasn't evil sure it tried to latch on to Peter at first but it only copied Peter's logo it only thought Peter was interesting after that it was pretty chill .its only when Peter gets angry that the suit noticibly changes in behavior tho and starts corrupting him (mostly) completely.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 So you literally admitted that the suit was corrupting Peter even from the get-go to the point that when presented an opportunity to remove the suit he was physically repulsed by the notion and you see nothing off about that?
It isn't exactly an exaggeration to say that the millisecond Peter had the Symbiote attached to him bro started viciously ragdolling Kraven's hunters like they were chew toys.
Also come on, if a few insults, ones that mind you he wasn't exactly wrong about, is all it took to make Harry go bananas I'm surprised his unhinged ass didn't start killing people sooner. But for obligatory reasons I do have to remind you that Peter was not completely conscious of his own actions and was behaving in a way he would never act normally because of Venom.
@@venusstar2963No That's not What I meant, it didn't start from the get go He was acting rather normally and extremely aloof at the beginning ( example the honey joke) its only when he STARTS TO FEEL angry that the suit starts corrupting him.
Has for Harry
I said He probably would have turned to venom even if He was nice to him my point was that He made his mental state a bit worse, also "a couple insluts that were right" ok one he insulted him when he was EXTREMELY VULNERABLE mentally and physically, two He told Harry to pop some pills and to tell him how he really feels once again while He was DYING I don't need to say Why that's fucked up and would fuck up someone.
Also yeah sure some of his actions like hunting down MJ are completely because of the symbiote but most of the time (since you made that addict and doctor analogy earlier) its like Alchool sure it makes you do things you wouldn't do but Unless it completely takes over your body most the things you do ( like him refusing to destroy the suit, being a dick yelling at MR Negative,thinking the suit made him better ) of your own will are still your own choices.
“ he’s not a flying squirrel “ 😂😂😂😂
To be honest there's really no reason to put gliding into this game. It serves no purpose. People that don't know Peter sometimes does have web gliders on his suit will react like that guy, and for everyone else it's JUST a reference.
How much dev time did they spend adding a pointless gliding mechanic when their web swinging is damn near perfect? Dev time is one of the most important resources in making a game. Time is everything, and if you spend it wrong, you get Anthem.
@@haku8135gliding is fine… but the stupid wind tunnels took away reasons for u to swing.
It’s like giving Flash a teleportation ability… making him stop running.
@@haku8135not to defend this game
but the reason why they have gliding is just because its fun
thats kinda it
actually fax, like spider-man 1 for me was a phenomenal experience yet the sequel which had 5 years to cook in the oven barely felt like it added much of anything, they couldve done much more with the mechanics and added way more features but instead we got a rushed game with a terribly paced story and boring side content
honestly people glazing this game way too much, it was a great time but not as good as the OG
An actual honest non biased review. Thank you
:)
Just because someone liks the game, it doesn't mean they're biased. People have been vocal about their dislike for this game. The most toxic community is the Arkham community because you can't say anything bad about any of the games except Origins
Didn’t know people hate the gliders but I kinda liked that. Maybe if they made it like he can only glide a small distance and not just fly it would have been better
honestly i loved the shit out of most of this game, but hearing the director talk about how they deliberately doubled down on the biggest grievance from the first game really pissed me off. thinking you know better than pretty much everybody who shared their opinions on your studios debut superhero game is pure hubris. and not only did they double down on MJ's role in the story and gameplay, they also doubled down on her not being hot. they brought her down from a new york 6 to a new york 4. way to set the precedent for your fans that whenever they have a problem with something, you'll not only bring it back in full force, but make it even more egregious, so that you can farm ESG points on social media by calling people bigots for pointing it out. in SM3 she'll be a literal troglodyte, and if you have anything to say about it you'll be getting a knock on your door from the thought police
I guess but it seemed more
Like he was trying to say That showing the world from all sides was a Part of
Immersion he felt was integral to the game and that cutting MJ missions out felt to easy of a way out
If they had it their way Mj would be black which would take her from a -4 to a -1000000
@@mochii813Blatant racism but not surprised coming from someone who uses the word "woke" in their vocabulary
would you prefer he wrote you a 10 page reply on the definition of woke? While his comment was somewhat ignorant. It takes nothing away from woke being a serious thing. Go play dustborn and concord, then tell me "woke ain't real CHUD" @@jadenhawkins6706
@@mochii813Yaaaas yaaaas
The original mw2 theme in the background has earned you my respect
Spiderman 2 existence only reminds me that they couldn't even make a good story with real gore like prototype
Can't imagine miles saying. Hey let's make a costume that narrows down who's the other spiderman with my distinctive hair style sticking out the top of the mask.
To be fair… it’s New York and tons of people has the hair
Fanally someone whos actually using their common sense and is actually giving an honest review.
Thx :)
Remember seeing that outfit for the first time. I laughed, called it garbage, then got ticked when I was forced to have him wear it in the end game
I wouldn't let Insomniac cook up another Spider-Man game until they get their act together, but the money always has other ideas.
5 months and I still feel this way, though Ratchet & Clank is still ok (for now anyway). And no, I'm not just saying this because I primarily use Xbox since I only have that for third party games, Sunset Overdrive (made by Insomniac, but they will never make another like it again on the road they're going down), Doritos' Crash Course, and Forza (I'm not an really FPS guy so I don't have any Halo), I'm saying this because I want Spidey to have the best games he can like Batman with the Arkham games.
They did actually good tbh the black suit was good as well u guys just complain and make exuses about the game get off the XBOX and get a ps5 bro 😂😂🤡🤡
@@jaydensanchez2002 you're flexing a brokie console
@@Lua0x07 how the ps5 is a Brokie console? You don’t make no sense at all if you don’t have one just say that 😂😂🤣🤣
@@jaydensanchez2002 I have a PC that costs 3x retail price of a PS5. I am currently playing Spider-Man 2 at 1440p@80fps, on higher settings than PS5. If you're too broke to afford the superior gaming platform, just say that. LOL brokie
@@Lua0x07 lol I’m not broke I’m glad u care that much I save money unlike you I don’t spend 3k on a shitty PC I’m smart on what I buy I played on my cousins PC and it’s actually crap and spider man 2 actually looks great on PS5 u play on a keyboard bro idk why I’m talking to you 🤣🤣🤣
Spider-Man PS4 I watched all the behind the scenes, all the interviews and thought Brian Intihar and the rest of the team are the man. But after hearing Brian say he doesn't give a shit I lost all respect for insomniac and won't be buying anything they make again.
I gotta agree here. I hated how much they dumbed down the game. The gadgets and powers are all just spammy aoe attacks and the traversal has become simplified. Its just flying now.
I can literally glide across the whole map without web swinging once which is crazy but I kinda like it lol.
Unexpected long form video but great to see you upload more consistently. Great Analysis and Review. MJ Missions gave me The Last of Us Vibes.
Thank you man, comments like this makes more excited for the future :)
Some of the best content in the game is optional and some of the worst is required.
Lmao that's funny💀
Nah deadass bro the Wraith side quests are better than a lot of the damn main story
I dont think he ever had a wingsuit in the comics. The webwings were purely aesthetic. But i do appreciate the effort
I didnt give a fuck about MJ missions until she started one shotting symbiotes that regularly kill especially taking out 1 or 2 behemoths. Forever stop that idea. Its not even overpowered its nonsensical.
They turned her into Isaac Clarke in this game especially for that mission. And she didn't even need a power suit lol.
just did a PLANT SIDEQUEST. i realized how important Biden's "BUILD BACK BETTER GREEN NEW DEAL" policy is, It was so important im honored to have an affiliation with it in a spiderman videogame. also i love all the alphabet people flags. helping a gay dude to prom with his boyfriend make me realize how the little things are important while playing a videogame, who wants to fight super villains and master combat techniques?
That’s probably something the devs Actually said
The first 2018 Spider-Man game is literally they best one. Somehow they downgraded in this second game.
I could literally forgive everything about this game no questions asked if they hadn't butchered Peter's relationship with Black Cat by saying she had settled down and has a nameless girlfriend, like WHAT?! At least give us some interactions between her and Peter or something instead of shoving Miles in there. You cannot tell me the writer wasn't meat riding Miles throughout this whole game.
i love when people talk shit about the web wings. like brotha, just don’t press triangle, i promise it ain’t that deep.
The story is all that mattered. No side story was meaningful.
And they still fumbled the main story😂
@@wkkqewqaver7766Only the third act.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 nah it was an over packed jumbled mess of a story that doesn't really make you care enough about the characters instead the events that happen all because the dialogue sounds like marvel movie dialogue 😂
@@wkkqewqaver7766yeah we got Kraven with cyber suit and an army of military soldiers with lazer blasters for some reason when the whole point of Kraven was that he's a hunter living in the woods using spears and crossbows
@@the_madson and kraven for some reason is way too strong just because the developers couldn't find a different villain they forced kraven to be super super human.
Bryan Intihar if you don't care and don't give a shit about MJ being OP then why TF you even bothered to direct this game? No wonder the game didn't win a single award..well deserved
Lmaooo
Facts
Flawed storyline , rushed venom arc , unnecessary Mary jane missions and huge marketing of unfinished game...
The director actually said that they had to cut other content from the game to make room for the MJ missions. We could've got those Venom city fights shown on the posters and commercials but we got MJ missions instead.
Spiderman 1 any day over this game
Spider-Man: "Where are the criminals!?"
Police: "False alarm!"
I really hope they update the game/add more enemy bases and challenges. I love Spider-Man 2, but the amount of stuff they removed from the previous games kind of had me disappointed and I wished they were more.
Thank you for actually making valid criticisms of this game. I'm tired of seeing these monkeys give it a 10/10 or say it deserved game of the year. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but it's honestly worse than the first game in my opinion, despite the fact that it has the better combat and swinging.
I feel like they used all the good villains in the first one and now they’ve killed off too many good villains from the first game
The literal top 2 villains Green goblin and doc ock are in the next game. This is speculation but I see Venom returning as a hero in sp3 since harry isnt dead and a venom game is planned.
I don't understand why they decided to put Harry in a coma instead of killing him. That would make a huge difference in the ending and give the next game a more reasonable foundation
The story and characters sucked
Web swinging is restrictive and made for babies
Combat is good but doesn't have any distinction between the Red suit and the Black Suit
Suits are missing from the first game
No wall combat
MJ missions
Miles is basically non existent in the story and is just there so they can claim to have 2 playable Spider-Men, even tho Edge Of Time and Shattered Dimensions did it first
The game is like a 6/10
Web Of Shadows, Shattered Dimensions, Edge Of Time are still better
The Insomniac games just feel like they are made for absolute newbies
I hated that peter in the black suit was rushed and venomnwas rusged felt like he little to none personality also why did he never once used a spiderman power ?
I just finished the game I really enjoyed it. Just wish we had more content after revealing we’re going to get carnage! The only bug I had was my spider man turning into a white cube and swinging around
Honestly, i understand wanting to make Mary Jane a hero, but if you want to do that, do it in a way that is consistent with the character. Having her beat up symbiotes and deadly hunters is just wrong.
If he believes you don't need superpowers to be a hero, then you should also know that you don't need to beat down bad guys to be a hero. Having a overpowered gun and the ability to sneak past hunter already puts her in the realm of superheroes like black panther (stealth) and Tony stark (weapons).
You could emphasize her impact by writing a greater story,
Say, everyone hates spiderman after he gets the black suit. His public perception is damaged beyond repair, even after he ditches the suit.
Mary jane goes through a lot of opposition trying to get public perceptions to change, especially because spiderman can't do his job properly and save lives, now that everyone is out to get him.
She pulls it off and changes public perception, even putting herself in harms way to get compelling evidence to back up her claim.
People praise her relentless effort and spiderman is forever indebted to her, now knowing how much the perception of people means to him, strengthening his resolve to forever be the friendly neighborhood spiderman.
Simple, not that hard to come by. It's a basic plot of a detective trying to clear his client of wrong doing. And even though its cliche, it works. Maybe even have Jay Jonah Jameson be the one to accuse Spiderman of being the same as venom, unintentionally mistaking the two as the same, given their similarities, but using it to push the propaganda that spiderman is a manace..🤦🤦i mean, all the ground work is already there.
Also you could use the opportunity to make spiderman beat up some cops😂, like make him commit a serious offense as a symbiote that makes the public turning against him really believable and make the player play it.
This way you can satisfy your angenda to defund the police by getting them beat them up instead of outrightly removing them from the game. And at the same time you can support the agenda to better equip the police, cause if they were, they'll be better prepared to handle crime of this scale.
That's how you appeal to both sides of the political space without leaning too much in one direction.
Thanks Mary Jane for Rushed Symbiot Plot
This is the type of review ive been looking for, valid criticism that i agree with yet no over hate, good work.
It is by far the worst game I’ve ever touched. It was offensive to my senses
Who actually believes Peter who looks like he is in middle school is a college professor, and dating someone who could be his mom…lol that just kills it for me
Remember when they cut out all the spider cop stuff that was in the first game because losers online get offended by the police
That guy saying he doesn’t give a shii literally giving dichead energy like prioritizing MJ missions over alot of stuff really ruined the game there are alot of things missing in the story and in the gameplay that could have used more attention! But nooo we gotta focus on MJ missions so dumb! This is why i didn’t purchase the game and this is why i am not gonna play the game unless its free. And why did they change all the character models its so annoying and dumb! Like just leave the same ppl it was perfect why did they have to change everyone peter was perfect mj was perfect harry was really perfect and they changed him into some weird looking little nerd first spiderman was peak and spiderman 2 is the death of the game.
All they had to do was the same “city that never sleeps” type stuff.
1:46 bro don’t read comics
Wasn’t he literally wearing wings on his first costume from his first comic 😭
@@Unknowngod00 thats a glider
He doesn’t fly or glide in the comics retard
I wish we got more of the lizard :(
More Lizard Kraven and Venom cut everything else lol
Finally an honest review.
I’d say it’s half good and half bad. I like miles Evolved suit. Just not the hair sticking out.
bro why is people complaining about the gliding? flying squirrel, why gliding suit? BRO making stuff up is crazy. It was legit in the movie far from home, bro does not watch the movie the guy who called him a flying squirrel
i hate how gameplay wise peter and miles are the same like why did they take away all peters web gadgets? whey can he boost himself in the air with his fucking spider arms?? how does that make any sense? i get miles with his venom powers doing it but peter just feels weird
you should absolutely have different playstyles for the different spidermen but instead its just basically a suit change
Marvel's Spider-Man (2018) is one of my all time favourite games, it was a near perfect single player experience. The game play was brilliant, the graphics and soundtrack were amazing, the story was beautiful, and all the voice actors did a great job with their roles. I platinumed the first game with about 40 or so total hours of play time.
I was very much excited to play the sequel, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, and while I mostly enjoyed it, I was disappointed, especially considering how much I loved the first game, and how I was really looking forward to playing the sequel.
Graphically, the sequel looks better, and thanks to the PS5's hardware, loading times were super fast and the fast travel mechanics were speedy and clever. I also appreciated the new traversal mechanics, such as the web glider wings, and I very much appreciated having the ability to play as either Peter Parker and Miles Morales, and I enjoyed the expanded New York City which now includes Brooklyn and Queens. The story was good, but in my opinion, it wasn't as strong as the first game.
What I found strange was that despite the fact the game had a larger overall environment to explore, as well as two characters to play as, the overall content seemed... less? Basically, I platinumed Marvel's Spider-Man 2 in about 25 hours, where as mentioned above, it took me about 40 hours to platinum the first game.
I was also disappointed to see that the second game was lacking additional features, such as character description biographies, and that gadgets seemed a little simplified. No new game plus mode at launch was also a bit sad.
Unlike the first game, I also experienced my fair share of bugs in Marvel's Spider-Man 2, including getting stuck in buildings and objects, things disappearing on me (like an NPC I needed to talk to for a mission), as well as the game outright crashing. When I played Marvel's Spider-Man back in 2018 on the PS4, I don't recall experiencing any bug, same goes for when I replayed the remastered version on the PS5, no bugs. To add a bit more, I didn't experience any bugs with Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales at PS5 launch.
Personally, while I didn't enjoy the Mary Jane missions of the first game, I felt they were better than the second one. I understand that in the second game, they tried to change up Mary Jane's stealth segments to be faster paced, but it took me out of the immersion. I also understand that Mary Jane briefly mentions that she received training from Silver Sable whilst she and Peter travelled to Symkaria, but... I'm pretty sure Peter and Mary Jane were only in Symkaria for a few weeks (hence their absence from Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales)? As someone who has personally been training in martial arts (judo, over 15 years and still going), I know it can take a long time, and consistency, to get competent with physical training related to combat. That being said, I also understand that it's all fiction, comic book stuff etc.
I was hoping that Marvel's Spider-Man 2 would be my Game of the Year for 2023, but it was easily, in my opinion, defeated by Baldur's Gate III, followed closely by The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.
Glade that u started making long form videos....... I think this kind of videos makes your points even more clear
Trueeee
6:02 to this day it still happens to me
i don’t understand the web-wings criticism💀 it’s not necessarily forced down your throat, just don’t use them unless the gameplay requires you to if you hate it that much. people acting like it’s an overused gimmick like the batmobile in arkham knight
I enjoyed the game but the climax was annoying af. So much combat at the end. I got an absolute headache having to fight of hordes of enemies and the boss fights made me angry. The fact that the game made you fight MJ Venom three or four times pissed me off.
2:58 you think you had to do more here than in new Spiderman? You basically press a few buttons when they pop up on the screen, You don't get to decide how you take them down or anything, it's all prerendered. That's why I hate these games, you're not really in control. It's more like watching a movie and you press buttons when asked to.
The only reason I’m not playing this game is because I’m not going to save the city and go back home to a transgender hobo goblin girlfriend lookin ass.
Damn
I'm willing to bet the MJ missions were pushed because of Sweet Baby Inc. They're all about what they personally want instead of what the fans want. Also, i noticed that Miles gets a bit more attention in this game. Once again, Sweet Baby gotta use diversity for their narrative.
"I am sorry" moment in the park was just... Motherfucking awful. Spiderman will do anything to save people. He will hurt himself and sacrifice himself if this is the only way.
How ? One of Peter Parker biggest character flaws is how he blames himself for everything, (It's litteraly a character flaw in the PS4 game) uncle Ben's death is litteraly a prime example if you don't believe me.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 There's a difference between someone feeling like they bear the weight of the world on their shoulders, like they are burdened with the responsibility and duty of helping people because they have the power to do so...
Over being a literal doormat for everyone around them.
@@venusstar2963 He isn't a doormat the closest part where He is one is arguably the Scream boss fight and even Then He is trying to descalate things by calming MJ down and apoligysing (which ends up working).
@@venusstar2963Batman: *glances away nervously*
Don’t forget to mention that just about EVERY suit from the first game was just reused with different color variations. Talk about fucking lazy
The gameplay was phenomenal. It was a MASSIVE step up from the first game. The map was also greatly improved and expanded… that being said, the story felt so lack luster compared to the first.
That scene with May ripped my heart out of my chest and reminded me why I love the OG Spider-Man so much. The ending in the sequel felt weak… and the emotional punch, while present, was harshly lessened… and ultimately ruined by Peter softly retiring to curl up next to Mary Jane’s boots. He was so nerfed in the final act it’s not even funny. Miles had to constantly save the day in the end while Peter was an apologetic crybaby.
It actually reminded me of why I don’t like Miles. Since he was always created to replace Peter at some point, and he officially did in the Insomniac games going forward. Yes I know Peter will be back in the third game, but he’ll likely kick the bucket by the end so it can be a 100% replacement. I’m just gonna call that now. I’m just tired of Miles always being forced into Peter’s life every time there’s a new Spider-Man story, because his existence and presence is a constant reminder that Miles is intended to push Peter out of the Spider-Man role so he can take up the mantle that was never his to begin with.
Miles (the character in general, not necessarily just the insomniac version) has literally been given Peter’s suit, his gadgets, his rogues, his Allie’s, his personality, his love interests, and even his drive to be Spider-Man…… because Peter is mostly now depicted as a depressed quitter who hates being Spider-Man while Miles is depicted as an excited good hearted person who lives to be Spider-Man and save lives… something Peter used to be. Everything that’s good about Peter/Spider-Man was given to Miles, and Peter was left with the downer depressing side of being Spider-Man. Right on brand for Miles.
Peter used to be the one and only Spider-Man. He was unique, and had his own edge… but they’ve watered him down significantly where now he’s just a random face in an infinite sea of Spider-Powered-People who all have been through similar struggles. There’s nothing Special about Spider-Man and especially Peter anymore, because anything that WAS was given to the other Spider-Verse characters.
I didn't like how the combat system wasn't improved upon, it's literally the same as in 1 minus all the cool gadgets and special suit powers. They've could've added skill trees for the spider legs and venom powers and changed the basic combos. You definitely had way more combo variety in 1 and even though i like the fact we got returning suits from the previous games since there are some i like a lot, it took away from new content being added. Another thing that i missed was the missions with waves of enemies to fight, there was less of those mission types in general and not as much to do as in 1.
Combat and stealth got worser symbiote peter is just a reskin of red suit if you dont use hes abilietes and they removed all 8 gadgets from the previous game.
I've had my issues with SM 2 and I think its a great game on a stand-alone basis, but when comparing it to the first game and miles, it was just pure trash. Whats even sadder is that Insomniac built a massive fanbase of sad and pathetic basement dwellers who've made the studio immune to even constructive criticism at this point, which is why Insomniac will keep getting away with bad decisions and even allowing Bryan Intihar for saying what he said on not giving a shit abt MJ bein OP. I'm honestly worried abt Wolverine now and quite frankly if the quality of tht and future games go down, id have to blame the fanboys only
I wouldn't mind the "less interactive" elements (random crime etc) if they happened only sometimes to add variety visually, and to show Peter's skill progression from game 1 to 2. The problem is that they just... Removed features
I may of hated the car part in the original game but I think them completely change it to pressing one button, I think they should of added something for people who like the car part (when you press buttons to stop the car) and people like me who hated it and press one button, but I 100% on the suit power part
Could of had a mission where you face off against a marvel hero or something, had a wolverine cameo or any one of the many villains could of briefly appeared, but I'm helping people find pigeons and ask their boyfriend to prom
Bro we’ve done so many car chase scenes in Spider-Man games it’s getting old honestly. I can care less it’s one button that’s prolly the reason why they made jt like that.
Honestly I think having Venom be the first Boss and Kraven be the last would’ve been a lot more satisfying.
spider-man had wings when he first came out...
Imagine you bought a game about Wonder Woman and then a sizeable portion of the missions were about s
Steve Trevor and Diana could not do anything without Donna or Cassie .
Seeing this video was refreshing. Im the biggest Spidey fan that I know and I honestly have a lot of issues with this game.
I don't really have a problem with him saying he wanted to prioritise MJ missions being fun if it meant her being a little OP. It's not like they're huge parts of the game.
the mc made web wings
I agree spiderman 2 was very disappointing
I agree with everything you said, and another think I dislike about the game is the suits. Insomniac started giving us original suits that no one ever asked for as if they were doing a fashion show, all of their original designs look over designed and just bad in general. They should have given us all the Spider-Man 1 suits back plus new comic suits. Another thing I dislike is the gadgets being removed like the electric webs or the web traps (whatever the name was) and the web bomb. The gadgets in this game are basically just there for players to spam and gain no satisfaction from. The old gadget wheel had a variety of gadgets you could use and each one was unique. Spider-Man 2's release was a disappointment compared to Spider-Man PS4's in 2018.
I almost hated this game, but my love from the other 2 kept me hanging in there. It's not a good sequel. Mediocre story, super boring side stuff, the MJ missions can go to hell. The fighting was fun and web gliding. That's it, oh top notch graphics though. But man this was not worth the wait at all. I played the other two for hundreds of hours, and that's just the gang bases. Max difficulty, no hits 300combo or more. Is it just me but almost everything sucks now.
Thr combat is not as smooth. Dodging and parry feel off. I miss the autonomy of the gadget wheel, too. The special attacks in this take away from the characters, just like Iron Mans Spidey suit undermined Peter in the MCU. The wings are a nice touch. The city is great. But the game holds your hand too much. Prompts for absolutely everything and the bugs keep breaking whatever immersion i feel.
Such a stupid idea focusing resources on MJ instead of anything else 😂
I hate how they make Miles this fawless hero. Mary Jane this "badass" and victim of Peters life because Peter chose to be a hero that risk his life to save other people...
Played the game once shortly after release, but haven't touched it since, even with the updates, etc. I will play through it again someday, but overall, story-wise, the first game was better even with it's flaws. The MJ parts in that game, while not great, didn't bother me.
What gets me is the director's smugness accompanied with being proud of the aspects people don't like or appreciate.
If you want Peter and MJ to have problems, do it in a balanced way (also, just because a lot of young people can "relate" to moving in with a bf/gf irl, doesn't mean you have to emulate that in a game. Statistically it's better to get married before cohabitation; Have the characters look into this and be positive examples in everyday life choices too).
If you want to make Miles look great, don't do it at Peter's expense. Have Peter consider the ramifications of stepping back so Miles can spearhead more. Let him weigh what happened last time he tried to avoid responsibility, and let him share that with Miles too.
If they NEEDED to have MJ focused missions, have one in the main story, but then have a series of side quests where you can play as MJ in a variety of ways as she undergoes her investigations. Maybe she could have been the one to piece together Chameleon, for example.
Insomniac is trying so hard to do the "old" rocksteady batman formula, ya know to "take the game, and improve everything" but when i look at Spiderman 2 i see some improvments but alot of downgrades