The Volkswagen Golf Alltrack is your adventure wagon
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2017
- Dear Fellow American... buy more wagons!
Yes, you think you need that crossover or sport utility vehicle. Well, the Volkswagen Golf Alltrack is here to prove you wrong.
This is basically the Audi Allroad Jr. It's a near-premium longroof that looks good, drives well, and can go deeper into the world of no roads than your average crossover mall cruiser.
Save the wagon... you don't need that CUV.
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People fail to realize that wagons are so much better than crossovers. You basically get more room and better dynamics AND better fuel economy with a wagon.
Just bought a 2017. I'm in love. It's perfect.
Finally a worthy test of that higher ground clearence. Thanks mate 👍🏻👊🏻
Just got this in SEL trim with manual! So nice to be back in a VW. I have 3 golden retrievers and with the 2nd row folded they are very content!
Wagons do rule, all others drool.
agreed :)
I just got one of these. SOOOOOOO glad I went with this instead of the outback. More reminiscent of the old suby's that were actual wagons instead of the new suv styles.
Darek M Same here. We used to own an 05 outback. Back when they were actually wagons. It’s crazy how huge they are now 😯
I love my new Subaru Impreza Hatch, it's basically a wagon.
@@thomasward00 no joke, I almost bought that car. I like it but, the cargo room is just not enough. I had an 05 outback before the vw. Back when they were actual wagons. And the crosstrek just doesn’t have the space that a legit wagon can provide. I just couldn’t justify the loss of cargo space if I bought it. So, i didn’t buy it. And The new outback is ridiculously huge now. In the end I got lucky and got an amazing deal on the vw. I pretty much have a newer version of my 05 outback. plus its a manual, its quick, and great for city driving. People even say “Nice subaru!” I don’t even correct them 😏
@@stanstanlison5791 I like the Outbacks too, very nice
@@thomasward00 they’re just too big now imho. To each their own tho 👍
You should get a ton more views. This is a great channel. Keep up the great work.
Alex
Alex! totally agree, he drives it like it's supposed to and it was very infomative of a video. btw I love your channel.
Yeah it’s weird he doesn’t have more subs.
just bought a used 2017 and love it to bad its going away.
Selling back my 2012 TDi Sportwagen on March 13th and buying one of these. Have only had my Sportwagen for just over 2 years, but I love driving it so I can't pull the trigger on a Subaru Outback, CRV, or Mazda CX5. These are a lot more fun to drive.
My favorite review of this little beast!!! Thank you!!!
Wagons rule 😎👌
Agreed! I love my Alltrack 3 pedal version
Love it. The wagon life chose me.
I bought an Alltrack - it's the 4th wagon I've bought new, and my fifth wagon. Manual, of course. I've done my job - you should, too.
Getting one of these. Aweome car.
Delicious off-roading there, Jeff.
Thanks brother
Off roading near Capistrano ranch on Ortega Hwy. and to the Communication Towers, I used the company Ford E-350 Van. All the roads you drove I been there . I won't take my new 2017 Alltrack anywhere near there. So far it's gone to the Promenade at Temecula Mall down the hill
Thanks man! Great video
So nice. ....sure want one.
waiting till mid year release here in Australia
we are getting the 185hp diesel with 7 speed dsg so it cant come quick enough for me
also 400watt sound system upgrade and 9.2 inch media and 12.3 inch drivers screen in a package def a box to tick on options
nice big boot for all my golf gear 2
have had a outback before but i like currently have a 8 yr old series 6 diesel with 140k on it with zero issues
so will def be going vw golf again
Amen, wagons are amazing.
I too traded in my MBZ GLA 4-Matic,SUV for a VW Alltrack. It's peppy, sturdy, roomy, straight-forward and to the point, with decent mpg. Before the MBZ I owned a BMW 325xi Sportwagen, loved it, should have never sold it, but it was a heavy car with just-ok mpg. Well, I'm back to a wagon and couldn't be happier!
Subaru has gone with the weak glass CVTs. No comparison to geared automatic.
You deserve more. I want to see this channel grow! Great review. Also love when you are on the smoking tires podcast. Good chemistry, good Times!
Thanks, always enjoy jumping on their show. I go all the way back to Ep7 of TST haha.
Too bad VW has stopped making them. I was lucky enough to get one with only 18k miles for as many beans. I have a factory Warranty until 95k so I am pretty happy. We have had nothing but snow and ice in the last four days since I've owned her, but so far so good.
Shame on VW for discontinuing this and the Golf Sportwagen - they were the ONLY affordable wagons offered in the US market. Now, if you want something new, you’ll be spending $50k + for an Audi, Volvo, MB, or Jaguar. Although thankfully, VW dealers still have some new 2019s in their lots, and surprisingly, still advertise them on their company website.
Totally agree, I love my 2018 s
I own an all track. I recommend the apr tune
I'm counting on The Hooniverse to throw a video together for the 2017 VW Golf Sportwagen S 4Motion: not the automatic; I wanna see that six-speed gearbox in play!
Stick, AWD, Wagon...that can soft road? Yeah, I think I'm trading in my Focus ST. Will it be as fast...not even CLOSE. But...with a miata and a Z coupe...this would be a better complement to my life. I'm psyched. Start saving my pennies.
greenmtnman APR tune and a few goodies and you're golden... I really liked this thing.
ohhh good point. Thanks!
And if you don't stick, the DSG dual clutch auto trans is among the best auto trans out there. You can also get pretty fast with it - under $1k gets you to 250hp, but you can get very close to 400 with off the shelf mods. It's a Mk7 Golf, after all, and built on the MQB platform... so anything that comes off a Golf R can go on it, and there's a ton of compatibility even with the Audi S3. Tons of potential.
u get this in Golf R Wagon my friend... lift it 4 cm and you got an "Alltrack R" that is faster then your ST 🤣🤣🤣
If I were to buy one of these, I'd upgrade the turbo to is20, you'll get an GTI Alltrack...or go for the full enchilada is38, then you'll have a Golf Alltrack R :).
Unfortunately auto market said it's word and VW stopped production of this perfect car in 2019 in the North America... Now in 2023 I'd like to buy one of pre-owned Alltrack, but only one or two cars in radius 500 km from Toronto and prices are really high - more than 25K CAD...
Love the concept of this wagon. Would be a perfect snow skiing transport. My only reservation is VW's reliability history. To me there's nothing worse than a check engine light flashing.
It is a fantastic car in snow and ice. However, you are right about reliability issues. It never ends!! 😔
Did you get to drive the GSW S-4motion? How do they compare? Is there enough of a diff to justify the more exp Alltrack...I'm torn btwn the GSW 4motion spd & Alltrack 6pd; sure I get a few more doodads in the Alltrack but I also have to pay for them (~2k premium)...I'm not a trail seeker and like things simple (currently drive 04 gti 1.8t)...others being considered are mazda6 touring/accord sport 1.5/civic Si/civic sport hatch...[all w/manuals]...Cheers
I guess that the heavy rains had not yet hit Southern Cali at the time you made this video. Would have loved to have seen this car's creek-fording capabilities and how it handled the slippery mud. How does the rear legroom compare to your Mazda Jeff?
It's similar in terms of rear legroom. No the rains came after we shot this, but that would've been fun.
I picked up my 2016 Golf R DSG for 35. Excellent daily car.
I'm going to say this is a lot like the 2nd-3rd gen subaru legacy outback wagon, I think its too heavy to be likened to the 1st gen outback tho, my limited 1st gen outback was 3180 lbs.
and I have ONLY wagons in my fleet Jeff! proud wagon driver, subaru and volvo wagons, also I had a mazda 6 wagon with a manual trans till the engine went. the V6 mazda used back then was crap, fun while it lasted but crapped out b4 100k miles. Next for my family tho is a VW jetta TDi wagon, hope to find a TDi cup but that is HIGHLY unlikely in my price range, found ONE on autotrader but its $20k and modded, I'm all about stock for the daily drivers unless I had actually money not barely surviving money then I might get something like an MTM modded audi wagon or something tasteful like that, but trying to do stuff to a car you are going to drive everyday while paying for the.... "privilege" of having kids is ludicrous, I mean can you imagine the ass hat that trys to modify a sweet wagon on a budget?! ya that's not happening buddy lol am I right? huh??
Well, if it's an 84 300TD that you're trying to modify... then yeah, it's apparently not happening at a fast enough pace. Sadly.
I'm glad you caught my little joke there, you can look at my THREE non running subaru wagons and say the same to me lol. one will be a ute soon tho.... but it will still be a wagon at heart ;)
I have golf 7 variant but not alltrack. Would like to swap it for all track tho
I can't wait to trade in my Mk7 hatch for this. Just not sure if I should get a manual this time around. Any opinions?
I looked for more aggressive tires for this car and i could not find any. Anybody else have any luck?
could not agree more - crossovers are funniest thing that happen to car industry
i just bought a 2017 and when you said dipshit things i instantly subscribed because that what im doing lmfao
I really like this car but in reality, I took my 1989 Honda Civic Hatchback on more difficult trails than these. I sure would like to see this car put to its limits. Thanks for the review.
I wanted a Mazda6 wagon too :(
WAGON LYFE!
Hey jeff anyway u can do a quick instaclip on the gopro setup?
As in, a quick video on Instagram of the setup?
Yeah I can do that tomorrow... what's your IG, I'll tag you
@crod.st. Thank you kind sir.
Great review! I've owned my 2017 Alltrack for a little over two years now and I really do love it, however, it has had it's problems. Two weeks before the extended warranty ran out the turbo died and five weeks after the warranty ran out the transmission went. A repair that is costing around $3000 CDN. Volks always seem to be a love hate relationship.
I just purchased the Se manual 2019. How many miles did you have on your car when the turbo failed?
@The Truth is turbo failed for the first time around 90,000 kms (around 56,000 miles), then again at around 100,000 kms. The transmission went around 120,000 kms.
@The Truth is I forgot to mention, I have probably replaced close to $3000 worth of front end parts as well. Thankfully, most during my warranty. However, still ridiculous in my opinion. Both shocks have been replaced, upper strut bushings, ball joints, lower linkage arms and bushings, etc etc. I should also probably mention that I live in Quebec where the roads are absolutely horrible. That could be a factor but still extremely frustrating. Hey, thanks for listening. I feel better now! 😆
When are the reps at Subaru gonna grow a brain and release the Levorg in the US??! I absolutely love the utility and mpg of wagons vs CUVs & SUVs, but I got tired of waiting for Subaru and went with a mk7 GTI because I need to have a fast sporty car too. I love my GTI but I would sell it in a heartbeat to have a Levorg! (or whatever they might call it in the states)
Why would they when subie buyers in the us don't need/love more power
I would have loved to see him get out of that
Plot twist, he got it stuck and is waiting for the tow truck. JK. Awesome video.
This winter I plan to buy a new car. Mazda CX5 is my top choice, but right now I'm really considering to buy this car. Like 95% I'll be on-road anyway and for those 5% off-road that I might do during travel each year should be fine. I think it should be fine for my planned Iceland trip as well, I won't go to "F" roads anyway and I wouldn't do that with CX5 either. Audi A4 Allroad and Volvo are too expensive, Subaru Outback too long, Skoda Octavia Scout maybe would be fine.
We tested the CX5, Subaru and Allroad. Bought the Allroad with manual transmission. The CX-5 felt like it needed 50 hp more - the VW didn't.
what kind of scares me is the long wheelbase... that can't be good for off-roading
Anyone knows how well the 1.8T and transmission can handle increased boost?
Being it is an E888 similar to the GTI but 1.8 vs 2.0 liters should handle boost well within reason. The DSG is very strong and can handle allot of torque. Thing is, it is modable but just do it right and not half ass it with cheap parts and tunes and it should hold up fine 👍
@@eppyz And what do we know about the manual transmission?
@@Vertignasse82 well coming from owning a GTI and being in the forums and everything like that people that do modify those particular cars it seems the drivetrain in this alltrack is very similar to a GTI's all I can tell you is that the DSG is stronger than the standard transmission for holding HP and TQ... But if you upgrade the clutch and the pressure plate on the standard transmission I'm sure it'll be fine ... most hot-rodded GTI's and Golf R's you see have dual-clutch transmissions... The really fast ones do anyway.
Whose car is that you are pounding?
Volkswagens
Wow I gotta say this review was really good. I'm a big StraightPipes and Redline Review fan too but damn man, a legit offroad review. Nice. I like this car too. I would definitely take this over current Subi. If only I could get over the fact that VW was literally a Hitler company that used slave labor..............I mean O get it that was a long time ago and not reflective of the current company but still......
Assuming your noted prices are USD? Not sure, don’t assume we’re all Mericans!
Wagons rule but no one buy it and it dying...
Wonder if the mk8 will also have manual AWD wagon variant..
It seems some " CONSULTANTS" convinced automakers that Americans ONLY want SUVs and nobody wants hatchbacks or wagons . So now we are all forced to buy SUVs ,MINIVANS OR PICKUPS. so now we are going to use way more fuel and pay way more for more expensive vehicles
In Canada its only sold as a top model with none of this SEL SE S crap and it can be optioned with a manual. So basically the SEL with the manual....The Canadian ones also have real leather, not Vtex leatherette lol
Today we got R Wagon or Alltrack Wagon... Golf is all you need. R Wagon for the racing dad, Alltrack for grandpa with a bad back from racing! 😂😂
Do you get the Golf R Wagon in the USA?
Sadly no...
@@TheHooniverse I feel your sorrow 😥
Amen! Wagons are the best, SUV's are just minivans in trucks clothing lol.
I was a little upset when they announced this car, because it happened about 30 days AFTER I bought a mk7 GTi (cuz mini wagon). I looked pretty hard at the Golf Sportwagen which looks amazing and kinda like the GLi wagon I always wanted...but transmission and suspension configurations kept me from buying one. You could only get the manual with a 5 speed and multilink rear, or the dsg and the twist beam rear. It hurt my soul to not get the multilink with dsg or a 6 speed with multilink.
Then they announced this goreous awd thing and made my dreams come true...just a month too late for me to buy lol. Then again, if I can somehow convince my lovely lady that we should get rid of her SUV and get a wagon (she likes SUV's for some reason, but I'm working on eroding that)....maybe we could make this work. She DOES like my GTi (though she misses my mk6 GLi quite a lot).
Great video as usual Jeff, you're pretty much the best
Have her go test drive one and say you'll start taking her on hikes to waterfalls.
Thanks!
I did plant the seed of wondering if she'd go on a hike or camping somewhere one day, and we're going to Disney at her request for Xmas lol....so, I'm working on some good faith already. Either I get a Miata (or another RX-7) maybe this year, or we'll work out another deal haha.
She's already down for the Miata. I've just gotta get her to understand why wagons are vastly better than almost anything else, ever.
A mazda3 hatch is basically a Miata wagon...
The Hooniverse that is true, and I personally believe that hatch is in the running for the most beautiful looking car on sale today. I wish I could have one with the engine from a GTi in it. Stock, I'd never ever ever let it go.
Kamukix I also bought a GTI after this came out, I traded it in 9 months later with 9000 miles on to buy an Alltrack and I love it!
This is the old Golf alltrack, the new have other lights.
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I want this engine in a civic
Mozda??
Do you remember if that was the colour, Tungsten Silver?
Ian Burgess platinum gray
Volkswagenwagon
I thought it is 7 speed DSG
Here it's a six.
The DSG might overheat during off-road.....
Jinge Liu Why? I’ve u leave this comment on a few alltrack reviews... Tell us why it might over heat.
After this review, thousands will be spent on the repairs. LOL
Have to disagree with the steering... Numb numb numb. That's all I have to say.
really don't want my wagon lifted with cladding.. allroad, this, the new Buick tourX, outback, v90 cross country etc.. why won't anyone just give us a real wagon.. guess we can just drop them.. or buy the e400 Mercedes Benz wagon
VW offers that. It's called the Golf Sportwagen. The Alltrack without the cladding.
I can't imagine any car enthusiast wanting this.
Maybe with GTI engine and transmission.
Mason S
Can't imagine any car enthusiasts agreeing with you.
Oh I think so. This has a better gearbox than the Outback. While it is lower to the ground, it is the better car and costs less. This is more a driver's car. And as we know, there's no Mazda 6 wagon or even Hyundai i30 wagon in the US to compete with this.
But you can imagine one wanting a shitty crossover instead?
I'm an enthusiast and I want one...
Plus I already own another wagon project car, and I'm looking at adding a second one this very weekend.