Immigrant Top Trumps - Have I Got News for You: Series 48 Episode 6 - BBC One
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The impression this left me...
"They took our jobs!" "Yes, Mr. High School Dropout, The Youngster Immigrant With the College Degree Took Your Job."
Yeah, I agree. I remember in one of the first jobs I had, there was a nice Sudanese guy doing the minimum wage job i was doing and he could easily talk to me in English, other guys in Turkish and yet more in Arabic. Those kind of skills are lost as people who are in Britain, and foreign don't have obvious routes to teach these skills.
mindlessgonzo govt is failing it's own native population and importing foreign populations (Chinese Indian and Japanese immigrants) do much better then native Brits
Or maybe importing a near endless supply of low skilled workers isn’t good for people with minimum wage jobs.
They’re all doctors and engineers though right?
Sure, fkn idiot. You obviously aren’t from the north.
No, this fails as a statistical comparison. Immigrants are generally successful young people who have the opportunity to live a another country. Comparing it to every Briton is massively unfair. If they showed British immigrants to other countries the numbers would be very similar.
A Name to be named no it would be old people in Spain who have retired
9 year ago people and now here we are
The majority of commenters for this video only furthering the point of the feature they've all failed to grasp.
MagikGimp What point is there to grasp?
A White Spider To belittle British people?
@@neilmartin3220 Thought the British were able to laugh at themselves. Maybe not.
@@EnclosedPoolArea We can when the material is actually funny.
@@EnclosedPoolArea Cards that just say 'Britains are dumb, everyone else is smarter' isn't exactly comedy gold.
Also a clear political agenda is never really funny if you're smart enough to grasp what's trying to be shoved down your throat.
Of course the native statistics are going to look bad by comparison. On the one hand, you're taking data from the whole population. On the other, the few who are wealthy or smart enough to immigrate.
@@hughtubecube Yes, as we all know there is only one immigrant.
This. What people don't understand is that immigrants are actually more useful to the UK on average than brits themselves.
CrusaderZav - I wouldn’t except any other response from a Carl of Swindon fan. Typically reductive, typically intellectually lazy, typically ‘Sargon’, frankly...
I notice they missed out some of the largest immigrant groups, such as Somalis, Pakistanis or sub-Saharan Africans. I'm sure that was just an oversight
@@Cinimod237 um non-european?
This isn't a totally unfair comparison - it shows that those coming over compare favourably with the population already here. The conversation was never about how immigrants to the UK compare with emigrants from it.
Well it’s a counterpoint to accusations of foreigners coming over here and sitting around claiming benefits and not contributing etc. Obviously it’s not a good comparison if you want to compare how good the countries themselves are, but that’s not the purpose, because most Brits who vote for things like Brexit don’t care how good Poland’s education system in isolation.
Wow! Not only was this complete shit, Ian actually called it out!
Jay Lagan lol you don’t get the joke do you.
@@ST-gd4go nah he doesn´t get it
@@ST-gd4go There was a joke in this program! Here's me thinking it was a virtual-signalling stunt by a bunch of people riding the BBC gravy train.
Shall we play a game of Immigrant Top Trumps?
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*NO*
This should be played on every TV station everyday to show the hatred and discontent the BBC has for the average British license fee payer.
Not that I ever have or ever will pay for a license, I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than give a single penny to the BBC.
Pity we didn't get to see the hourly rate. My guess is that notwithstanding being bottom of the other categories, UK citizen would be top of this one.
Western Europe would be higher IMHO, depending on which definition of western Europe they used in their calculation.
"My Husband"
-Jo Brand
"I like eating and I hate my husband." - every Jo Brand joke
What point was this trying to prove, that there is higher disparity in the native population of a country then there is in the smaller sample size of immigrants seeking employment?
672,000 net migrants in 2023.
745,000 net migrants in 2022.
That's a number bigger than the entire population of Birmingham in 2 years alone.
I guess Britain must have radically improved since this show aired, right?
Haha, that picture of Mats Hummels used as the western european stapl picture XD
If you don't like the facts, prove them wrong. Try for a higher education, work hard, study well, earn your degree, and then show those people in the statistics office who's stupid.
With all due respect the 53% with low education think universities are Marxist training camps so I don't think they'll be going to university any time soon
Most poorly educated people probably can't spell university, I say they should be put down for being filthy leeches that provide nothing to the country.
These stats are a false equivalence, the 52% low education for 'UK native' includes the entirety of the country's 'UK native's' population, while the 8% for 'Eastern Europeans' is out of the immigrant population only, the vast majority of lowly educated Eastern Europeans would have remained in their home countries probably because they don't have degrees and job prospects in the UK.
RuleBritannia1987 That’s not a false equivalence at all, as it’s comparing immigrants with the native population.
Get younger while you’re at it
Thanks for posting.
Here's the average annual cost of a degree around the world, listed from lowest to highest:
Germany: $500
Norway: $500
France: $1,600
Italy: $2,000
Spain: $3,000
Taiwan: $4,500
China: $6,000
South Korea: $8,000
Australia: $24,000
United Kingdom: $25,000
United States: $35,000
some countries see it as basic need for a capable confident workforce some exploit the living sh@"t out of it
If you measured the British going abroad, you'd find similar results; younger, smarter, well educated.
All prerequisite immigration rules for any none EU country like the USA, Canada, Australia, etc
Now measure the the economic migrants pouring across the Med, Mr BBC.
Kim Jong Il, yes but they are not complaining about “bloody Brits coming here to take our jobs”. They value the professional people who go there. :-)
This aged well..
what was the point of that
0oAJLo0 to show that the stereotypical view of immigrants is not based on facts
Well, a swing and a miss. It landed as sneering
0oAJLo0 Factual, but sneering
Yeh, how dare people say true things in a bad way. We should embrace actual lies instead.
themob212 The show is supposed to be humorous satire based on bits that connect well. This bit landed very poorly. You could even see Merton thought it was a hatchet job
Lies, Damn Lies and STATISTICS!
Ian and Paul taking the piss out of the whole thing, mocking the pointlessness of this part of the show.
This seems like a pointless exercise, comparing the people who legally come to this country to the entire population of the country.
I just love the way middle class people look down on the working class and sneer at us. I also love paying for too.
Yet I assume you love Jacob Rees-Mogg because you think he's supporting Brexit for non-selfish reasons....
They sent even looking down on the working class just idiots
@@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy don’t put yourself down buddy. Many idiots go on to live happy and somewhat successful lives. I’m sure you’ll do ok.
@@bigpete4227 ahaha but uneducated = poor a lot of people from rich families are complete idiots because they never had to try whereas if you get Someone from a working class background who worked really hard they a generally very intelligent
@@jumpingjjonah8088 5 years ago? Are you nuts?
Donald Trump believes the game Top Trumps is named after him and is all about his family… he is currently sueing for royalties he deems due 🤣
And now let's have European and non-Eurooean: respect for human rights, terrorist atrocities, FGM, IQ, religious tolerance, sustainable birth rate, respect for free speech, level of crime etc, etc etc.
Doesn't make any sense at all...non-european...how can you compare the average of 6 continents to the average of one single country?
It's the average of the immigrants who come. We obviously take the better ones.
53% is oddly close to 52% - No doubt they all voted Brexit.
Ben Clark I doubt it, if anything, you need intellect to want to Leave a tyranny such as the EU.
@@tiwtid6055 this didn't age well
How terrible not to have a university degree, eh, Vance: they must all be idiots, let's have a good sneer at them.
Typical left wing / bbc bashing of the English working class that they so despise .
100-13=87% have education 🤣
that was the joke
purposely disingenuous in order to slate your own country. How pathetic
These stats are a false equivalence, the 52% low education for 'UK native' includes the entirety of the country's 'UK native's' population, while the 8% for 'Eastern Europeans' is out of the immigrant population only, the vast majority of lowly educated Eastern Europeans would have remained in their home countries probably because they don't have degrees and job prospects in the UK. Ian's joke at the end about the average age make's that point exactly - it proves nothing at all.
RuleBritannia1987 the intention was to say immigrants aren't bad but they failed horribly by making it look like insulting the native Brit populace
RuleBritannia1987 its not false equivalence. The whole point is to highlight the supposed injustice of foreigners taking our jobs. Its not unfair
What, no pointless answers?
Well, here is a sketch the BBC would never allow to be aired today.
@austinrover2005 what do you class as a native? Just curious because that term keeps popping up in these comments.
You dont watch much of the BBC if you think they arent still pushing lefty agendas on their shows like this was.
Dafuq was that politically biased round meant to do?
Sneer at the English working class
Jo Brand now needs to restore her career after advising people to acidify the faces of politicians.
No - she made a silly, tasteless (not particularly funny) joke.
how many of them are Micky mouse degrees tho?
chrizdebo He means pointless subjects such as media studies, art, dance, drama. basically anything that doesn't require a great deal of effort
I have a degree in Media Studies and I'm journalist doing a report on war crimes. It's a degree that actually requires a lot of effort!
OpinionatedMonk I also have qualifications in Sociology, Journalism and Social Sciences
Ben Redares Still guarantee I earn more than you. Nearly £200,000 from my last story which I sold to National Geographic. Bought myself a Mercedes
ThatGuyNamedElliot Niiiiice.
Now compare the UK population to the general Eastern European population not just the immigrants...
I honestly thought the point of HIGNFY was to show what happened/what's been discussed the previous week. Here I am thinking how telling the rampant paranoia is in Great Britain, right?
In b4 trump
What a fair comparison, I never knew that nearly 700 million Chinese people had been University educated!!!
Funny how they didnt do Pakisti immigrnt, Carribeans, Smaliane, or anyoneelse from say, the middle east in their Brit Bashing
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It's great to have publicly funded entertainment like this that steadfastly remains totally politically neutral so everyone can agree that their taxes were well spent. I like comedy.
Typical FWR ukipper comment
It's only the actual news part and the sport that has to be impartial. The BBC is still more impartial than any American broadcasting service. And cheaper.
@@calldfwp2230 Check the BBC's remit, the whole organisation has to be impartial, not just the news.
Feels a bit smug and disingenuous, very unlike HIGNFY. Would have been more interesting but still absolutely irrelevant to see the card for a UK emigrant as well. Makes me feel sorry for the Uk natives stuck without an education let down by the system. Kinda goes to prove the opposite of what they were trying to say. Very sad
The host should have actually hosted the game. Could have been good. But she didn't have a fecking clue.
What does this even prove? That we need to focus on British civilians in terms of jobs and education? Isn't that what UKIP is trying to do?
I can see why I don't watch television, it's crap...
you did see that paul and ian were mocking it the entire time.
Tim Davies but you watch it on you tube. Tard!
Bbc patronising again.!!!!
The way you spit on the men who built this country and keep it running is disgusting.
I have always thought that insulting your audience whilst trying to make them laugh probably wasn't the best strategy...
None of the ones I work with have any real education above high school, so this is bollocks.
because you work on a farm picking cabbages?
Just shows how dire this show is when this unfunny crap gets through the edit. Dread to think what they left out if this is the best they could come up with.
If you like it in Europe so much...then go live there and stop sneering at the British population.
You realise that if everyone who voted remain left for Europe you'd have to bring in 16 million immigrants to replace us
My comment has nothing to do with the referendum vote. Rather the way that our media personalities look down their noses at our country and its people and paint Europe as some utopia. Britain is not perfect and has its problems, but listening to these celebs anyone would think we are a bunch of feckless types while our European neighbours are all intellectuals. Hardly an accurate picture. A shame....as I used to quite like Hislop and Merton.
You're not helping. You not understanding the point of the feature only shows how much more appealing young, educated immigrants willing to work for less are in the employment sector compared to the average Brit.
In the UK we have spent the last 40 years vandalising a once great education system (e.g. closing grammer schools, turning all the polytechnics into 2nd rate universities and replacing grants with fees). The result is a collapse in social mobility and wasted human capital (and skills shortages in key STEM areas).At the same time our political and business leaders (like many across the west) have become addicted cheap foreign labour where wages can be lower and all the costs of education outsourced in many cases to the very poorest countries that need skilled people to stay and aid in development. The current arrangements benefit big businesses and the politicians who work with them (often too closely) . The ones paying the price are the UK working class and the countries who lose qualified doctors/engineers after having paid to educate them. Please tell me where I am wrong here?
The feature had no point to make other than a like for like comparison between the average native and immigrant. The only really useful metric to use this information against is employment but it's up to the viewer to make that decision or not. There was no sneering or bias to either side and if you believe the poor, wimpy Brits need to be stood up for then you're only making a counter-argument to your views surely? And I'm saying this in the nicest possible terms!
As for your views, this really isn't the time or place for such debate and I'm certainly no expert on the matter although I've heard quite a bit from either side of the debate. Quite frankly it's out of any of our hands no matter how many votes we have as far as I'm concerned. I agree educated immigrants should stay at home but they clearly don't want to! As for the labourers, the more the merrier if you ask me. Your heroic nationals tend to not want to get out of bed to pick veg in the rain these days. And I don't blame them for that attitude either! We need immigration but only for those willing to take those jobs. You don't hear that much though do you...
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most young people have degrees nowadays so that's why the number of degrees for british people are lower, doesn't really prove anything. but i do like the sly propaganda attempt from the bbc, good work
Governments and Social Campaigners simply don't understand that giving everyone a University Degree just means it's more difficult for employers to sift out the wheat from the chaff!
And Retail Job Interviews these days are all about PERSONALITY not whether you can actually do the Job! If you're an Introvert you're PUCKED Even if you do have a GNVQ Lvl 2 which you earned working at multiple different shops incl. a Supermarket for £29-40 a week for 40 hrs work a week! And multiple years worked in the industry following that incl. supervisory and even lower managerial experience!!!
im calling bullshit on them stats
@samuelh-h8179 based on the fact that this classist propaganda is designed to humiliate for the sake of money and power.
This is a bit bollox though
When it’s more people than jobs the bosses can pay what they want.Doesn,t the BBC get more licence payers with rising population.I have stopped paying the BBC licence ( they get every penny) nothing has happened in 2yrs think so many aren,t paying they can,t cope and the police too busy to help.ha saved a few hundred quid,
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Why didn't they do crime rate?