Well, fortunately for Mitsubishi, an all-new Outlander and Outlander PHEV is set to release in 2021/2022 for the 2022/2023 Model Year, so hopefully there will be improvements to the powertrain, and technology.
Mitsubishi are famous for reworking old cars and changing as little as possible. In Australia they have been running the same switchgear and dash layout for 10 years !! They are masters of facelifting ancient tech and reselling it as new. As far as a new PHEV goes I would NOT be first in line to try it unless it had an iron clad battery degradation warranty !!! I'm tipping they will come on strong with a battery warranty - but they will be silent on degradation.
Well news update, the new outlander is largely based on nissan rogue now that nissan owns large share of mitsu. It is expected to have worse reliability considering the bad jatco CVT historical record.
I've owned PHEV for 2 years and for short city driving we get over 1000 km to a tank. For Long distance travel, the phev gets around 500km to a tank. Its a big difference but for a tank that's only 40litres it's still really good for a car that weight nearly two ton.
Thanks for the real world data. I'm converting to miles and gallons, your city driving gets you 621.371 miles on 10.567 gallons = 58.8 mpg. That's pretty good. But your long distance travel, assuming mostly highway speed, is bad only half the mpg above or 29.4 mpg. Not sure what car you have but 10.5 gallons tank sounds like a small car like a Honda civic (12 gal) that can easily give you 30-35 mpg especially if you drive on eco mod. Although if you mostly drive in the city, your phev definitely wins, getting more than 2x the mileage than Civic.
Over the years, the battery would loose its charge. That's why toyota never went full plug in. Toyota will be releasing a Rav4 Prime by 2021 or 2020. Hybrid plugin. Also toyota has a higher resale value.
@@epichmongguy You say that Toyota never went full plug-in because the batteries lose their charge but then you say that they will be offering a plug-in in the future.... Huh??
Cant beat Mitsubishis up front discounts and rebates. I just got my top trim loaded $33,000.00 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL with Touring Package and S-AWC for $26,000.00 after rebates and dealer discounts. Couldn’t beat it. We have owned 5 Mitsubishis now and 7 of us own them at my work and they are great reliable vehicles plus they give you a much longer warranty and way longer roadside assistance which shows they stand behind their vehicles. Plus the Mitsubishi dealer I use is amazing and their service dept is top notch. I have had great overal experiences with Mitsubishis. I always purchased new Kia and Hyundai vehicles before Mitsubishi but after our 2013 Hyundai Elantra we bought new was plagued with so many issues we decided to switch brands. So glad we did!
Alex, Well done. You are really rising to the challenge of comparing that RAV4 Hybrid to anything on four wheels. BTW details on your channel are never 'excruciating' . #GotCharts
I made this exact comparison 6 months ago. For us, the determining factor on fuel use/environment was the number of long trips we took. After calculations, even if we assumed we could somehow get 30 mpg from the outlander, the Rav still won out. Plus we prefer it in every way. Small but annoying additional thing about the outlander: the shifter feels like it’s made by Mattel.
Good review however looks like this guy is more in favor to the Rav4 putting less effort explaining some of the adventages on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. 🤷🏻♂️
If your commute is 20 miles and you charge both ends then Outlander PHEV will use only Electric and the Hybrid would use 1 gallon. As the Outlander does not use the full energy in the battery but around 10kW that would mean PHEV use would be 20kW. So that would mean that weekly cost (5 day) would be (Electric @ $0.12kWh Petrol @ $3.00) PHEV $12 and Hybrid $15 that is a 20% saving on commute cost and if your destination had free charging then that would be $6 or 60% saving. Now there is the weekend you saved $3 so that means on this video 25 miles for the PHEV plus the 20 miles of electric, so 45 miles for $4.2 and the Hybrid to balance that off would be 10 miles or another trip to work. With PHEV and Hybrids you have to balance off all your short journeys with you long journeys. And just to note with Fast DC charging the Outlander is 20 mins to charge to 80% (Battery Protection). I have had an Outlander PHEV for 18 months and lifetime MPG is 100.
One thing to consider is soccer moms who only drive the kids 5-7 miles to school and maybe to the grocery store 80% of the vehicles life. The 22 miles of electric range means that gasoline engine will never turn on and the cost to operate the PHEV will be sigificantly lower. Honestly a PHEV is the best use of electric motors in vehicles for the next few years at least, as the ability to run around town on electric only but still be able to utilize gasoline when you need it, is just the best of both worlds. The toyota may get 40mpg but at 12 cents per kWh and a 12 kWh battery, you get a 1.44 dollars to charge the battery. So say we have someone who drove 7k miles (a city person or suburban soccer mom), and of that 5k miles was on electric while the other 2k was on gasoline vs the rav 4 that was all gasoline. The 5k miles of electric driving would consume 2,250 kWh of electric and at a cost of 12 cents per, it would total 270 dollars. Now add the other 2k miles on gas at an average of 3 dollars a gallon and you get 240 dollars for a total of 510 dollars in "fuel". The toyota rav4 at a flat 40 mpg with that same 3 dollars per gallon would cost 525. If you look at the breakdown, it cost almost as much in gas to go 2k miles as it did in electric to go 5k miles. If the outlander had a bigger battery, say a 16 kWh battery, so 33% bigger, and got 29-30 miles of range, and now you would have a 15 mile daily commute on pure electric and that bill will plummet. But if you drive a lot per year, say 14k or in my mothers case 25k miles per year, then the normal hybrid scales much better and would be an obvious choice, as the fuel economy savings would pay for the actual auto loan over the life of the loan
As I cover in the video, this depends greatly on your cost of electricity. Most PHEVs are sold in California and rates here can run from $0.18-0.28/kWh
@@AAutoBuyersGuide $0.104/kWh in Ontario off-peak. Charge overnight, and if you have a short commute within the EV range, the Outlander can be driven as a pure EV 100% of the time, except in really poor/cold weather conditions. Use EV priority+Eco mode and the engine will almost never come on, if you have enough juice in the battery. Over time that is by far cheaper than buying gas. As you stated it's really the only game in town for it's size and if you want AWD. I had a 2018 Volt and it behaves very similar, amazingly almost the same, but the Volt is tiny in comparison - although it has a larger battery. HOWEVER, the software in the Outlander stinks, the BMU (battery Management Unit) aggressively degrades the available battery capacity - reducing the available kWh/Ah usable, and thus your 22 miles EV range, close to 18% per year. Read up on it - it's all over UA-cam and Facebook. The problem exists in all Outlander PHEV models, and is even worse with the newer 13.8 kWh batteries available in Europe. Mitsubishi is refusing to admit there is a problem, despite user groups complaining to them. Also, their Service departments are (mostly) clueless about the PHEV and how it works, at least in North America where it's a relatively new release. Although there are ways to reset the battery capacity and do a true battery capacity measurement, you can risk voiding your warranty if you do that on your own. Until and unless this is addressed, best to stay away from Mitsubishi entirely.
I'm in Ontario also. It makes total sense here to plug-in your PHEV in off-peak hours (7pm to 7am). I presently have a Honda Insight hybrid but I will certainly look into getting either a Rav4 or CR-V PHEV in a couple years. I'm also not impressed with the Outlander PHEV...... 22 miles per charge that gets worse over time just isn't for me!
@@Darrenhd2 I would revise your comment to say "if you have an average commute" which is within the all electric range of the PHEV. Note: the average American commute is 13.6 miles. Americans don't like to admit it or are unaware that 95 percent of them traveled less than 40 miles to work.
Adaptive cruise control, 360 camera, LED head lights are standard in Japan original model . The dealer in your country seems stealing your money for options.
@@Brew-doo just preference. I know Toyota's are know for their reliability and resale, but in my family we generally keep vehicles for 10+ years so resale isn't a consideration. We've also owned fords in the past and haven't had any issues I just like the look of the Ford more.
@@dtay8913 LOL. Reliability still matters after 10+ years. A 10 year old unreliable car may have thousands of dollars of repairs that the reliable car won't need for another 5-10 years. There will also likely still be a significant difference in resale value of a 10 year old Ford vs Toyota. I just looked at KBB trade-in values base model 2009 Ford Escapes and 2009 RAV4s with just standard equipment, 100K miles and good condition on KBB. The Ford was valued at about $2200 and the Toyota about $4500. Chances are money spent on out of warranty repairs on the Ford driven for 10 years would also be much higher than the Toyota. Low resale value normally is caused by an expectation of high/frequent repair and maintenance costs. Cars that people expect to be cheap to maintain and also expect to not need many repairs are in high demand on the used car market and therefore have high resale value.
Depends on whether you live in a city with or without public transportation. If your city does not have any light rails or subways (e.g Dallas, Houston, Amarillo, San Antonio, El Paso, Atlanta, Louisville, Cincinnati, New Orleans), the plug in won’t do much for you. If your city does have subway line (Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco), you can drive to your nearest station on electric range.
Very good. The numbers you gave for improving EV range and engine efficiency just happen to be exactly the reported performance of the Outlander PHEV that is on sale in Europe & Japan. Why is Mitsubishi selling a second rate product in the USA?
Bear in mind that the federal tax credit is a non-refundable tax credit so it will only benefit the purchaser if, after all other deductions, refundable credits and non-refundable credits, you still owe $5,000 in tax. The state tax credits in some states is a refundable credit and so may well be worth far more. Of course, you can get both. Figure the cost for a 1,000 mile trip with only 22 miles of electric only driving and the remaining 978 miles at 25MPG . It would take 39.12 Gallons. With a cost of $3.00/gallon your trip would cost $117.36 (assuming you have your own Solar or wind source for free electricity) The RAV4 Hybrid at 40 MPG combined would take 25 Gallons. At a cost of $3.00/ gallon your trip would cost $75 Add to that the poor repair costs of the Mitsubitchi compared to the Sterling repair cost of the RAV4 and you can see why the Mitsu doesn't impress me. Of course you could throw a full electric car in the mix and fuel cost would be more in line with the RAV4, but then you would have to figure in the cost of a motel/hotel room for your overnight stay caused by the extra time watching the clouds roll by while you wait to recarge your batteries at least 3 times with a time of 2.5 hours per charge. Or an extra 7hours and 30 minutes.to drive that 1,000 miles.
Toyota is now selling 36000 Rav4s a month, with about 25% of them being hybrids It will be the #4 best selling vehicle in America, behind the 3 pickup trucks It's sales this year have easily pulled away from Rogue, CRV, and any car on the market
Actual ground clearance 2019: The measurements are a bit strange since every car model uses cm so we have to translate it to inches. Grand Cherokee 8.26 - 11.02 (rejustable) (21-28cm) Forester 8.66 (22cm) Rogue 7.87-8.46 (20-21.5cm) (depends on model (motor and/or 4wd)) Rav 4 hybrid 7.48-8.07 (19-20.5cm) (Diffrent sites says diffrent things) CR-V 7.87 (20cm) Tiguan 7.87 (20cm) Outlander phev 7.48 (19cm) Rogue 7.28 (18.5cm) Sorento 7.28 (18.5cm) Sportage 6.69 (17cm)
redwhite_040 Outlander PHEV is not popular in the US because the highway MPG is not good. I'm sure it is perfect for shorter commutes that rely mostly on its electric power.
I DO NOT like any of these cars. But i still watch it cause Alex reviews them. And I'm glad I did. From 8:22, that answer that very question I always have : 'Is it worth going electric?'.
I'm with TR, the resale value and 40mpg are good reasons to buy the Rav4. With the Outlander you will spend all your extra time sitting at the dealership waiting for parts.
I owned a 2018 PHEV w LED head light, and is about average 45MPG , as I charge full daily. to work place about 20 miles away, so far pretty happy about it. one way to office, no gas at all. :-)
Outlander: Can DO electric OR run as hybrid. RAV4 (never have to plug in??) - hybrid ONLY - CANNOT plug it in at all and CANNOT use electricity to AVOID use of gasoline.
David Silva Agreed. Talk about spinning it like a Toyota marketing person. You don’t have the ability to plug in the RAV4, not “you don’t have to”. It’d be more accurate to say that you can plug in the Outlander but you don’t have to. Plugging it in helps you not burn any gasoline for short trips.
The thing is... there are eBikes out there. That doesn’t make them good family transportation. If you need an EV, there are FAR better options out there for the money. If you need a hybrid, clearly better out there too. If you need a CUV.... I don’t even want to start. This car is last on that list. It’s a car that tries to be everything... and fails at it all. The sales back me up on it.
@@afcgeo882 American sales only. That's all related to advertisement. The Outlander PHEV has been the top selling PHEV in Europe for 5 years. If you don't like getting a lifetime average of over 100 MPG then don't buy the PHEV. Suit your self and get real world MPG's around 35 in the RAV4
You are missing in your review the fact that this car loses the acceleration when is going up hills for more than 10 miles since the cell battery gets depleted and at that point, the fan stop working and gets overheated. Did you try to go up hills in this car for more than 10 miles?
Alex, Do you work for Toyota? Bottom line: We own a Outlander PHEV and we drive the same 13000 miles per year as the average American. We charge every night with 120 volt AC level one charger. life time MPG? 101! WE have been on one road trip consisting of 1100 miles during the two years we have owned the vehicle. This mixture of driving returns approximately 75% EV driving. My friend drives a new Rav 4, approximately the same mileage per year. His life time MPG 34.4! No comparison. Your assessment is dead wrong.
Dear Hal, Asian and European markets got a 2.4L Atkinson ICE plus a 13.8 kWh drive battery upgrade for MY2019. American markets did not get this upgrade for either MY2019 or MY2020. Mitsubishi will wait for the all new MY2021 model to update the power train for America.
The RAV4 is nice but I HATE Retarded Infotainment Systems that stick up on or over the dash...that's just ugly. The new Honda CRV Hybrid has their info system sitting where it should be, below the dash. Just don't know exactly when it will arrive the US...
@@chaosengine3772 modern engines are already very complicated, now they add a battery, a charge controller, an electric motor, an inverter and an electric generator and a lot of additional software to manage everything, just to squeeze out some additionally miles per gallon. Those cars will be super unreliably compared to an older car or an electric car.
@@RubenKelevra Toyota's history with their hybrid tech has been proven to be reliable for over 20yrs. Nissan, Lexus and Subaru uses Toyota's HSD tech. Prius's are everywhere here as taxis and government service vehicles. BTW, Tesla is not even in the conversation as this is really about hybrid, PHEV SUVs and not BEV.
"So you don't need to plug it in at all". You mean you can't, and therefore produce a lot more emissions. That was a stupid comment, Alex. Time to unsubscribe.
I don't think the new Escape is going to effect RAV4 sales much for people that need a useable 2nd row seat. Our local dealership has a 2020 with the 3 cylinder, and that second row is still a rock hard parcel shelf with door openings too small for a 6 foot person to use regularly. Though it is pretty; and I'm sure the Fords will be discounted a lot more (and more often) than the Toyota.
They kind of copied the Jeep Cherokee design didn't they? At least they look similar. You almost need to do a double take on them to figure out which is which.
Yes they did hit it out of the park with the design. Because there is a lot worse out there like the Hyundai Kona and others. At least Toyota knows how to keep their headlights in the right place!
@@Dntdgxj hah - Mitsubishi carefully have reworded warranties to exclude degradation. Word wide hassles with BMU prematurely degrading traction batteries - it is a SCANDAL. Mitsubishi, head in the sand refuse to help.
don't worry about the battery will loose charge. Here in the Netherlands we have a lot of Outlanders PHEV (pre facelift), as well as toyota hybrids, Tesla's, and even though they have 300.000km they will loose max 10% of the battery. And the drivetrains are pretty solid as well, actually the drivetrains are more reliable than a normal gas one, because there are less parts in motion.
The RAV4 is the easy choice as once you get over Mitsubishis minimal 22 mile EV range it get 25mpg, compared to RAV4 40mpg. Add its faster, quieter, more refined suspension, more ground clearance, higher resale value and better drivetrain (proven Prius ECVT and drivetrain) the RAV4 is the logical choice. If you're going for all electric range I'd make the jump to full EV as there are much less parts and maintenance. With a PHEV when it's in battery mode it's pulling around a useless engine and when it's in gas mode is pulling around a large useless battery.
I think if you can charge at work or really want express lane access the Mitsubishi wins (say in the bay area), but for the majority of buyers it's the RAV. I still think for most buyers the Clarity or Prius Prime make the most sense financially, but people want their CUV.
I’ve had a UK 16 plate outlander and now the 19 plate... the 2.4litre outlander replacing the 2litre smashes all its technical numbers. 70mpg over 25,000 annual miles all day, every day and will buy a third
My 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE has a hitch and I regularly tow a 2016 Prolite Mini trailer (1050lbs dry). The RAV4 tows it well and has acceptable passing power when towing. 2 downsides are engine becomes noisy on highway (revs fair bit bit higher) and fuel economy drops over 50% going 75mph. Without towing I get 34mpg @ 75mph, towing I get 16mpg. These numbers are over 3000 miles which is a large sampling size.
would love to see charging speeds of the outlander phev at a chademo station if you can do that, not many videos on that at all, the only phev with fast charging, thanks
Also unless you are driving more than 100 miles daily with no way to stop you can easily do almost all of your driving on nearly free ev charging, and no one should drive it with an empty battery it has a chg function for a reason so those economy numbers are worst case. You could run that outlander when you arent going on super long trips, which few people do more than 5 times a year, for practically nothing! I hope the next gen in a couple years ramps up that EV only range a bunch if so that would be outstanding!
The Outlander PHEV is the less expensive car if you can charge frequently, but the Rav4 hybrid is the better overall car. That said I look forward to the new Escape hybrid & especially the Rav4 PHEV once that arrives since I believe that car would really make the Mitsubishi redundant should it also have AWD.
Come on bro. You compare two different types of vehicles... a hybrid and a PHEV... These vehicles are not at all for the same people... 95% of my commutes are within the EV range of the Outlander... so my annual gaz cost is probably closer to 200$... maybe not even. You are comparing these two cars as if I was gonna do long trips on the Outlander... You should simply say to for long trips, the RAV4's hybrid system is more efficient, while for short trips, the PHEV reigns absolutely supreme... End of the story XD no need for a 25 minutes video about it... Compare the RAV4 Prime with the Outlander PHEV... Don't compare a PHEV and a Hybrid... XD
So - with a little research you would have dismissed the Outlander PHEV immediately as a car to even buy !! Why? Ongoing worldwide fault with the BMU and rapid reported degradation of the traction battery. This has been festering for years with Mitsubishi refusing to help. Owners are now doing home hacks and purchasing MUT III devices to try and restore their battery capacity. Mitsubishi have over the years re worded their warranty statements to avoid any hassles with degradation !!! So - compare all you like - but buying a Mitsubishi PHEV - good luck with that - you will need it.
Yes, you are right about the battery problems, but that is not the only trouble. Don't forget that the 4x4 system of the Outlander PHEV is not reliable ! The electric motor of the rear axle can not deliver the torque needed for real offroad traction. Look for example at the youtubes : "Phev fail" and "phev on rollers". That is also a reason for NOT buying a Outlander PHEV.
In real world driving, you're assumptions on efficiency are ill informed. The break even MPG point for these two cars is at a minimum 47 miles traveled. If one was to read through the Mitsubishi forum a EPA rating of 25 MPG is pessimistic. Most owners are achieving 30 MPG without any hypermiling. The real world experience shows the break even point at closer to 52 miles. the EPA rating of 22 miles electric only range is very accurate. If we look at the numbers pessimistically the average driver would have to drive more than 47 miles per day for the RAV4 to become more economic to drive. How many people drive 17155 miles per year? less then 15% of Americans.
Not to nitpick Alex, but I've noticed this on a couple videos with ground clearance comparisons. From 2014 to 2020 the Nissan Rogue has had a couple different ground clearance numbers. But to my knowledge in each of those years the AWD variant had a higher GC number than the 2WD. For instance the 2019 and 2020 AWD currently has 8.4 inches of GC putting it near the top of the list VS. the 7.8 of the 2WD variant.
Almost 200 comments and no one has mentioned that OpenPilot is only compatible with the RAV4. OpenPilot brings amazing Level 2 autonomy to almost 60 compatible vehicles now, dramatically reducing or nearly eliminating the stress of driving. The latest RAV4 Hybrid features Toyota's TSS 2.0, which raises the Lane Keeping Assist hardware to new levels. Pairing that up with OpenPilot gives you endless hours of relaxing drive time.
Other than 20-ish miles of all electric range, it's hard to see any compelling reason or use case to purchase the "OutlUnder" over the Rav4. The OutlAnder is obviously an older designed and probably adapted to electrification rather than designed for it from scratch. Take a look at Ford C-Max plug in. Nice car, but Ford sacrificed a huge amount of cargo space to house the battery pack high up and to the rear. Nice car (the C-Max), but compromised in PEV form. Pity Ford ditched it.
This guy doesn’t know what he speaks! You don’t meant to use all the juice and thereafter the petrol, you have to learn to drive economically! His comparison about the efficiency is wrong! The outlander PHEV is designed for people how commute daily less than 50 miles.
I know it’s not in the same vehicle class but it’s crazy how the Pacifica E-hybrid would destroy this pair of CUVs Aside from AWD. It’s bigger sits 7 gets 33 EV miles (84mpgE beating the outlanders EV range, and fuel efficiency) & while the 33mpg is shy of the 40 in the rav4 the 33 gas-free miles takes about 5 gallons of non EV driving to match the Pacifica meaning if u can charge nightly and drive less than ~180 miles daily the Pacifica becomes more economical. Considering that Toyota has been in hybrids for over 20 years, Mitsubishi has refined the outlander phev for ~7 years and Chrysler’s first in house PHEV managed to still outperform on a larger heavier (granted different class) vehicle is pretty amazing.
As a Canadian I would love to see the Ontario-built Pacifica succeed but FCA has a well deserved reputation for nightmarish QDR. Their proposed merger with PSA will only make the nightmare worse. Luckily I can buy a made in Canada RAV4 Hybrid instead. We will see who gets the assignment to build the plug-in RAV4. I know Kentucky will soon be building RAV4 Hybrids in some form as well.
@@Darrenhd2 I expect a Hybrid Sienna is just around the corner. We have to wait for the hype campaign around the new Highlander to quiet down before an announcement.
Well, fortunately for Mitsubishi, an all-new Outlander and Outlander PHEV is set to release in 2021/2022 for the 2022/2023 Model Year, so hopefully there will be improvements to the powertrain, and technology.
Dennis Scipio and better mpg because I believe it’s only 25 mpg after the juice runs out
dygardion 91 It’s 25mpg in hybrid mode.
Mitsubishi are famous for reworking old cars and changing as little as possible. In Australia they have been running the same switchgear and dash layout for 10 years !! They are masters of facelifting ancient tech and reselling it as new.
As far as a new PHEV goes I would NOT be first in line to try it unless it had an iron clad battery degradation warranty !!! I'm tipping they will come on strong with a battery warranty - but they will be silent on degradation.
Well news update, the new outlander is largely based on nissan rogue now that nissan owns large share of mitsu. It is expected to have worse reliability considering the bad jatco CVT historical record.
@@afcgeo882 Not exactly. It is 25 mpgs in hybrid mode with a drained battery. Otherwise, it is 30+
I've owned PHEV for 2 years and for short city driving we get over 1000 km to a tank.
For Long distance travel, the phev gets around 500km to a tank. Its a big difference but for a tank that's only 40litres it's still really good for a car that weight nearly two ton.
Thanks for the real world data. I'm converting to miles and gallons, your city driving gets you 621.371 miles on 10.567 gallons = 58.8 mpg. That's pretty good.
But your long distance travel, assuming mostly highway speed, is bad only half the mpg above or 29.4 mpg.
Not sure what car you have but 10.5 gallons tank sounds like a small car like a Honda civic (12 gal) that can easily give you 30-35 mpg especially if you drive on eco mod.
Although if you mostly drive in the city, your phev definitely wins, getting more than 2x the mileage than Civic.
Forgot to ask you, do you plug in every day so that you always drive on a full battery every time?
@Ian-mv4qq You have to plug it in every night, otherwise this PHEV makes little sense.
After 50,000 my 2019's lifetime mpgs are 48.
We got 8k off our PHEV Outlander back in June and that's excluding the 5k in tax credits, so that could be something to consider
Not enough.
@@AmperageY no, 8k off msrp, theres still around 5k in tax credits:)
Over the years, the battery would loose its charge. That's why toyota never went full plug in. Toyota will be releasing a Rav4 Prime by 2021 or 2020. Hybrid plugin. Also toyota has a higher resale value.
@@epichmongguy You say that Toyota never went full plug-in because the batteries lose their charge but then you say that they will be offering a plug-in in the future.... Huh??
Cant beat Mitsubishis up front discounts and rebates. I just got my top trim loaded $33,000.00 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL with Touring Package and S-AWC for $26,000.00 after rebates and dealer discounts. Couldn’t beat it. We have owned 5 Mitsubishis now and 7 of us own them at my work and they are great reliable vehicles plus they give you a much longer warranty and way longer roadside assistance which shows they stand behind their vehicles. Plus the Mitsubishi dealer I use is amazing and their service dept is top notch. I have had great overal experiences with Mitsubishis. I always purchased new Kia and Hyundai vehicles before Mitsubishi but after our 2013 Hyundai Elantra we bought new was plagued with so many issues we decided to switch brands. So glad we did!
Alex, Well done. You are really rising to the challenge of comparing that RAV4 Hybrid to anything on four wheels. BTW details on your channel
are never 'excruciating' . #GotCharts
You do amazing reviews, i ordered a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid after watching some of your videos.
I saw an outlander phev today and It's pretty handsome.
I made this exact comparison 6 months ago. For us, the determining factor on fuel use/environment was the number of long trips we took. After calculations, even if we assumed we could somehow get 30 mpg from the outlander, the Rav still won out. Plus we prefer it in every way. Small but annoying additional thing about the outlander: the shifter feels like it’s made by Mattel.
Good review however looks like this guy is more in favor to the Rav4 putting less effort explaining some of the adventages on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. 🤷🏻♂️
If your commute is 20 miles and you charge both ends then Outlander PHEV will use only Electric and the Hybrid would use 1 gallon. As the Outlander does not use the full energy in the battery but around 10kW that would mean PHEV use would be 20kW. So that would mean that weekly cost (5 day) would be (Electric @ $0.12kWh Petrol @ $3.00) PHEV $12 and Hybrid $15 that is a 20% saving on commute cost and if your destination had free charging then that would be $6 or 60% saving. Now there is the weekend you saved $3 so that means on this video 25 miles for the PHEV plus the 20 miles of electric, so 45 miles for $4.2 and the Hybrid to balance that off would be 10 miles or another trip to work. With PHEV and Hybrids you have to balance off all your short journeys with you long journeys. And just to note with Fast DC charging the Outlander is 20 mins to charge to 80% (Battery Protection). I have had an Outlander PHEV for 18 months and lifetime MPG is 100.
Rav4 plug in hybrid! It’s coming
Also Lexus nx hybrid is there soooooo
One thing to consider is soccer moms who only drive the kids 5-7 miles to school and maybe to the grocery store 80% of the vehicles life. The 22 miles of electric range means that gasoline engine will never turn on and the cost to operate the PHEV will be sigificantly lower. Honestly a PHEV is the best use of electric motors in vehicles for the next few years at least, as the ability to run around town on electric only but still be able to utilize gasoline when you need it, is just the best of both worlds. The toyota may get 40mpg but at 12 cents per kWh and a 12 kWh battery, you get a 1.44 dollars to charge the battery.
So say we have someone who drove 7k miles (a city person or suburban soccer mom), and of that 5k miles was on electric while the other 2k was on gasoline vs the rav 4 that was all gasoline. The 5k miles of electric driving would consume 2,250 kWh of electric and at a cost of 12 cents per, it would total 270 dollars. Now add the other 2k miles on gas at an average of 3 dollars a gallon and you get 240 dollars for a total of 510 dollars in "fuel". The toyota rav4 at a flat 40 mpg with that same 3 dollars per gallon would cost 525. If you look at the breakdown, it cost almost as much in gas to go 2k miles as it did in electric to go 5k miles. If the outlander had a bigger battery, say a 16 kWh battery, so 33% bigger, and got 29-30 miles of range, and now you would have a 15 mile daily commute on pure electric and that bill will plummet.
But if you drive a lot per year, say 14k or in my mothers case 25k miles per year, then the normal hybrid scales much better and would be an obvious choice, as the fuel economy savings would pay for the actual auto loan over the life of the loan
As I cover in the video, this depends greatly on your cost of electricity. Most PHEVs are sold in California and rates here can run from $0.18-0.28/kWh
@@AAutoBuyersGuide $0.104/kWh in Ontario off-peak. Charge overnight, and if you have a short commute within the EV range, the Outlander can be driven as a pure EV 100% of the time, except in really poor/cold weather conditions. Use EV priority+Eco mode and the engine will almost never come on, if you have enough juice in the battery. Over time that is by far cheaper than buying gas. As you stated it's really the only game in town for it's size and if you want AWD. I had a 2018 Volt and it behaves very similar, amazingly almost the same, but the Volt is tiny in comparison - although it has a larger battery. HOWEVER, the software in the Outlander stinks, the BMU (battery Management Unit) aggressively degrades the available battery capacity - reducing the available kWh/Ah usable, and thus your 22 miles EV range, close to 18% per year. Read up on it - it's all over UA-cam and Facebook. The problem exists in all Outlander PHEV models, and is even worse with the newer 13.8 kWh batteries available in Europe. Mitsubishi is refusing to admit there is a problem, despite user groups complaining to them. Also, their Service departments are (mostly) clueless about the PHEV and how it works, at least in North America where it's a relatively new release. Although there are ways to reset the battery capacity and do a true battery capacity measurement, you can risk voiding your warranty if you do that on your own. Until and unless this is addressed, best to stay away from Mitsubishi entirely.
I'm in Ontario also. It makes total sense here to plug-in your PHEV in off-peak hours (7pm to 7am). I presently have a Honda Insight hybrid but I will certainly look into getting either a Rav4 or CR-V PHEV in a couple years. I'm also not impressed with the Outlander PHEV...... 22 miles per charge that gets worse over time just isn't for me!
@@Darrenhd2
I would revise your comment to say "if you have an average commute"
which is within the all electric range of the PHEV.
Note: the average American commute is 13.6 miles.
Americans don't like to admit it or are unaware that
95 percent of them traveled less than 40 miles to work.
Adaptive cruise control, 360 camera, LED head lights are standard in Japan original model .
The dealer in your country seems stealing your money for options.
i saw that mitsubishi on the road a few weeks ago it had hybrid written all over it, in fact it was the first new mitsubishi i seen in ages.
I don't personally care for either of these vehicles over the escape, I'm just here to support Alex.
The new Ford Escape is so ugly and bland though
@@Brew-doo just preference. I know Toyota's are know for their reliability and resale, but in my family we generally keep vehicles for 10+ years so resale isn't a consideration. We've also owned fords in the past and haven't had any issues I just like the look of the Ford more.
@@dtay8913 LOL. Reliability still matters after 10+ years. A 10 year old unreliable car may have thousands of dollars of repairs that the reliable car won't need for another 5-10 years.
There will also likely still be a significant difference in resale value of a 10 year old Ford vs Toyota.
I just looked at KBB trade-in values base model 2009 Ford Escapes and 2009 RAV4s with just standard equipment, 100K miles and good condition on KBB. The Ford was valued at about $2200 and the Toyota about $4500. Chances are money spent on out of warranty repairs on the Ford driven for 10 years would also be much higher than the Toyota.
Low resale value normally is caused by an expectation of high/frequent repair and maintenance costs. Cars that people expect to be cheap to maintain and also expect to not need many repairs are in high demand on the used car market and therefore have high resale value.
Now in 2022 with the higher fuel cost, when it comes to fuel economy, outlander phev has become a much better option than the Rav4
Agreed in 2k24
Depends on whether you live in a city with or without public transportation. If your city does not have any light rails or subways (e.g Dallas, Houston, Amarillo, San Antonio, El Paso, Atlanta, Louisville, Cincinnati, New Orleans), the plug in won’t do much for you. If your city does have subway line (Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco), you can drive to your nearest station on electric range.
Your are the best @alex I made the same comparison before buying my premium Rav4
Very good. The numbers you gave for improving EV range and engine efficiency just happen to be exactly the reported performance of the Outlander PHEV that is on sale in Europe & Japan. Why is Mitsubishi selling a second rate product in the USA?
RAV4 Hands down.
Bear in mind that the federal tax credit is a non-refundable tax credit so it will only benefit the purchaser if, after all other deductions, refundable credits and non-refundable credits, you still owe $5,000 in tax.
The state tax credits in some states is a refundable credit and so may well be worth far more. Of course, you can get both.
Figure the cost for a 1,000 mile trip with only 22 miles of electric only driving and the remaining 978 miles at 25MPG . It would take 39.12 Gallons. With a cost of $3.00/gallon your trip would cost $117.36 (assuming you have your own Solar or wind source for free electricity)
The RAV4 Hybrid at 40 MPG combined would take 25 Gallons. At a cost of $3.00/ gallon your trip would cost $75
Add to that the poor repair costs of the Mitsubitchi compared to the Sterling repair cost of the RAV4 and you can see why the Mitsu doesn't impress me.
Of course you could throw a full electric car in the mix and fuel cost would be more in line with the RAV4, but then you would have to figure in the cost of a motel/hotel room for your overnight stay caused by the extra time watching the clouds roll by while you wait to recarge your batteries at least 3 times with a time of 2.5 hours per charge. Or an extra 7hours and 30 minutes.to drive that 1,000 miles.
I'll take the Mitsubishi Outlander
Mitsubishi Outlander 2019 with 2.4L Atkinson motor became a better choice by far in 2024 (in mechanics but also in general design imho)
Best review so far.
Europe have new outlander 2.4 phev 240hp, full led and a S-AWC (4X4) ,same system as lancer Evolution, 360° view cameras , etc...
Be honest.....nothing like Toyota,those engines runs for life.
Toyota is now selling 36000 Rav4s a month, with about 25% of them being hybrids
It will be the #4 best selling vehicle in America, behind the 3 pickup trucks
It's sales this year have easily pulled away from Rogue, CRV, and any car on the market
If you commute 44 MPD then outlander fuel economy is 50 combined mpg compared with 40 in RAV4. Still a bargain.
Outlander need a 20kwh pack to give it more usable range.
Actual ground clearance 2019:
The measurements are a bit strange since every car model uses cm so we have to translate it to inches.
Grand Cherokee 8.26 - 11.02 (rejustable) (21-28cm)
Forester 8.66 (22cm)
Rogue 7.87-8.46 (20-21.5cm) (depends on model (motor and/or 4wd))
Rav 4 hybrid 7.48-8.07 (19-20.5cm) (Diffrent sites says diffrent things)
CR-V 7.87 (20cm)
Tiguan 7.87 (20cm)
Outlander phev 7.48 (19cm)
Rogue 7.28 (18.5cm)
Sorento 7.28 (18.5cm)
Sportage 6.69 (17cm)
Too bad Mitsu has software issues reducing range. There are a couple guys on here who discovered it.
my mistake... of course before converter / inverter 244,8 V (6,5Ah x 244,8V = 1,591 kWh). My data was AC 650V
the outlander has a fast charger...that could have been worth mentioning?
The Outlander looks better but it's such a complex system so between these two - RAV4 Hybrid is the winner.
It's not complex, it quite the same as a Toyota Hybrid. It's bullitproof, we have lots of them in the Netherlands with high kilometers.
redwhite_040 Outlander PHEV is not popular in the US because the highway MPG is not good. I'm sure it is perfect for shorter commutes that rely mostly on its electric power.
@@dretech Oh i can believe that, over here most people drive 0-35 km average for work and then it's ideal.
redwhite_040 Is the Outlander PHEV equipped with 3rd row over there?
@@dretech It's an option when you buy a new one.
I DO NOT like any of these cars. But i still watch it cause Alex reviews them. And I'm glad I did. From 8:22, that answer that very question I always have : 'Is it worth going electric?'.
Simple answer is..... YES. But only in a Hybrid or PHEV for me. Full electric isn't for me either.
Dont by electric you got 200kms only then recharge wait 2hrs or more again, while hybrid awesome
I'm with TR, the resale value and 40mpg are good reasons to buy the Rav4. With the Outlander you will spend all your extra time sitting at the dealership waiting for parts.
I owned a 2018 PHEV w LED head light, and is about average 45MPG , as I charge full daily. to work place about 20 miles away, so far pretty happy about it. one way to office, no gas at all. :-)
Can’t wait for escape phev and hybrid and the new crv hybrid all will be very interesting
I'll take a serious look at the new CRV hybrid as for the Escape.... not a chance in hell. No Ford (found on road dead) in my future!
Outlander: Can DO electric OR run as hybrid. RAV4 (never have to plug in??) - hybrid ONLY - CANNOT plug it in at all and CANNOT use electricity to AVOID use of gasoline.
David Silva Agreed. Talk about spinning it like a Toyota marketing person. You don’t have the ability to plug in the RAV4, not “you don’t have to”. It’d be more accurate to say that you can plug in the Outlander but you don’t have to. Plugging it in helps you not burn any gasoline for short trips.
The thing is... there are eBikes out there. That doesn’t make them good family transportation. If you need an EV, there are FAR better options out there for the money. If you need a hybrid, clearly better out there too. If you need a CUV.... I don’t even want to start. This car is last on that list. It’s a car that tries to be everything... and fails at it all. The sales back me up on it.
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American sales only. That's all related to advertisement. The Outlander PHEV has been the top selling PHEV in Europe for 5 years.
If you don't like getting a lifetime average of over 100 MPG then don't buy the PHEV. Suit your self and get real world MPG's around 35 in the RAV4
You are missing in your review the fact that this car loses the acceleration when is going up hills for more than 10 miles since the cell battery gets depleted and at that point, the fan stop working and gets overheated. Did you try to go up hills in this car for more than 10 miles?
The toyota looks kind of similar two the Mitsubishi in the rear
Alex, Do you work for Toyota?
Bottom line: We own a Outlander PHEV and we drive the same 13000 miles per year as the average American. We charge every night with 120 volt AC level one charger. life time MPG? 101! WE have been on one road trip consisting of 1100 miles during the two years we have owned the vehicle. This mixture of driving returns approximately 75% EV driving.
My friend drives a new Rav 4, approximately the same mileage per year. His life time MPG 34.4! No comparison. Your assessment is dead wrong.
Maybe him and kilmer is butt buddies
no one cares about mitsubishi anymore. the comparison we want to see is the new CRV Hybrid vs Rav4 Hybrid!
3:18 are you sure of these data? I found: Main battery in Rav4 is 6.5 Ah capacity The maximum voltage is 650V (6.5Ah x 650V = 4.225 kWh)
Thanks. Excelent info.
If yiu drive mainly local, with the odd large trip, how can the rav be more economical of you charge regularly?
The plug in RAV4 won’t be available until 2021 instead of 2020 as mentioned unless Toyota just made a new announcement
Todd Bohlke Model Year designation is 2021 but they will be available in the fall of 2020.
oh, nice review
RAV4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who hates tf out of the new RAV4?
The split screen makes me dizzy.
He pronounces Outlander like it's a last name.
Mitsubishi PHEV is a joke, it only gives you 25 MPG in hybrid mode! (Rav4 40MPG)
Not to mention the inferior quality of Mitsi comparing to Toyota.
"hollow-gen" headlamps. haha.
Alex, I understood that the 2019 Outlander had a 2.4L engine, prior to 2019 it was a 2.0L. Is that correct?
Dear Hal, Asian and European markets got a 2.4L Atkinson ICE plus a 13.8 kWh drive battery upgrade for MY2019. American markets did not get this upgrade for either MY2019 or MY2020. Mitsubishi will wait for the all new MY2021 model to update the power train for America.
@@woodykeiko Thanks, those two upgrades are a deal maker or breaker for me.
Nice blue
carpool lane access in CA for the PHEV not for the rav4
Joeys Cleaning Lady - So stupid, the phev gets less mpg.
Rav4 will have a PHEV model in the new year so hang on to your britches dear.
The RAV4 is nice but I HATE Retarded Infotainment Systems that stick up on or over the dash...that's just ugly. The new Honda CRV Hybrid has their info system sitting where it should be, below the dash. Just don't know exactly when it will arrive the US...
Mitsu looks 1000X better than ugly toyota
Neither, used BMW X5 xDrive40e for me. I like to live dangerously.
Overcomplicated technology, just get a Tesla Model Y
Why?
@@chaosengine3772 modern engines are already very complicated, now they add a battery, a charge controller, an electric motor, an inverter and an electric generator and a lot of additional software to manage everything, just to squeeze out some additionally miles per gallon. Those cars will be super unreliably compared to an older car or an electric car.
@@RubenKelevra Toyota's history with their hybrid tech has been proven to be reliable for over 20yrs. Nissan, Lexus and Subaru uses Toyota's HSD tech. Prius's are everywhere here as taxis and government service vehicles.
BTW, Tesla is not even in the conversation as this is really about hybrid, PHEV SUVs and not BEV.
"So you don't need to plug it in at all". You mean you can't, and therefore produce a lot more emissions.
That was a stupid comment, Alex. Time to unsubscribe.
Harsh on Mitsubishi
Mitsu > toyota
25 mpg hybrid lmao. Yota wins big time.
Toyota ads. Paid by Toyota.
I don't think the new Escape is going to effect RAV4 sales much for people that need a useable 2nd row seat. Our local dealership has a 2020 with the 3 cylinder, and that second row is still a rock hard parcel shelf with door openings too small for a 6 foot person to use regularly. Though it is pretty; and I'm sure the Fords will be discounted a lot more (and more often) than the Toyota.
Exactly.
I'm 6"1 driver and both my brothers are 6"2. I drive them regularly in my 2019 RAV4 and we all fit comfortably 😃
Interesting comparison of Rav4 Hybrid and Escape Hybrid by Alex.
ua-cam.com/video/1JjTb3nYuv8/v-deo.html
Never been a fan of Ford.
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid without thinking Nice comparison review
With and without thinking.
Toyota hit it out of the park when they redesigned the RAV4.
Really? That thing looks hideous an is going to age horribly
They kind of copied the Jeep Cherokee design didn't they? At least they look similar. You almost need to do a double take on them to figure out which is which.
Looks amazing
I know looks are subjective but the rav4 is hideous.
Yes they did hit it out of the park with the design. Because there is a lot worse out there like the Hyundai Kona and others. At least Toyota knows how to keep their headlights in the right place!
So many horror stories about Mitsu battery degradation
Bought 2019 Rav4H and so far I love it.
MPG 44 hwy/city
Good call.
The battery should be also covered by 10 years warranty.
@@Dntdgxj Starting with 2020 models its 10 year warranty on battery. My 2019 RAV4 has 8 year 100,000 mile warranty. Same battery.
@@Dntdgxj hah - Mitsubishi carefully have reworded warranties to exclude degradation. Word wide hassles with BMU prematurely degrading traction batteries - it is a SCANDAL. Mitsubishi, head in the sand refuse to help.
don't worry about the battery will loose charge. Here in the Netherlands we have a lot of Outlanders PHEV (pre facelift), as well as toyota hybrids, Tesla's, and even though they have 300.000km they will loose max 10% of the battery. And the drivetrains are pretty solid as well, actually the drivetrains are more reliable than a normal gas one, because there are less parts in motion.
Mitsubishi has lost their mojo over the years.....
The RAV4 is the easy choice as once you get over Mitsubishis minimal 22 mile EV range it get 25mpg, compared to RAV4 40mpg. Add its faster, quieter, more refined suspension, more ground clearance, higher resale value and better drivetrain (proven Prius ECVT and drivetrain) the RAV4 is the logical choice.
If you're going for all electric range I'd make the jump to full EV as there are much less parts and maintenance. With a PHEV when it's in battery mode it's pulling around a useless engine and when it's in gas mode is pulling around a large useless battery.
I think if you can charge at work or really want express lane access the Mitsubishi wins (say in the bay area), but for the majority of buyers it's the RAV.
I still think for most buyers the Clarity or Prius Prime make the most sense financially, but people want their CUV.
Joseph G But if you can charge at work, there are FAR better options out there at the same price point.
@@afcgeo882 the Mits offers dramatic discounts, so that would need to be considered.
@@joa8593 What makes most sense is the Hybrid Corolla Wagon with AWDe.
@@rightlanehog3151 I mean, I wish.
That said, if you qualify for government incentives the Prime is the better value over pretty much any hybrid.
I’ve had a UK 16 plate outlander and now the 19 plate... the 2.4litre outlander replacing the 2litre smashes all its technical numbers. 70mpg over 25,000 annual miles all day, every day and will buy a third
I think Toyota is talking porky pies on the cargo space. Those two extra suitcases are not going to fit in that RAV.
Easy though
Alex, Did I miss the real world, on-the-road towing comparison? #AllWeAreSayingIsGiveItAHitch
7:31
@@GoldenLegionHoney That is theoretical towing . I want to see a real trailer being moved. ;)
@@rightlanehog3151 Ahhh I see
My 2019 RAV4 hybrid XSE has a hitch and I regularly tow a 2016 Prolite Mini trailer (1050lbs dry). The RAV4 tows it well and has acceptable passing power when towing. 2 downsides are engine becomes noisy on highway (revs fair bit bit higher) and fuel economy drops over 50% going 75mph.
Without towing I get 34mpg @ 75mph, towing I get 16mpg. These numbers are over 3000 miles which is a large sampling size.
would love to see charging speeds of the outlander phev at a chademo station if you can do that, not many videos on that at all, the only phev with fast charging, thanks
Still say...
The winner is the Volvo XC40
I wonder if GM will ever bring back the Volt. I just got a 2013 used. love it.
They need to have a volt, bolt and jolt to complete the electric trifecta
No, GM us going all EV. No more dual propulsion. Even Toyota dropped the Synergy tagline as the are following GM's lead in EV's.
Also unless you are driving more than 100 miles daily with no way to stop you can easily do almost all of your driving on nearly free ev charging, and no one should drive it with an empty battery it has a chg function for a reason so those economy numbers are worst case. You could run that outlander when you arent going on super long trips, which few people do more than 5 times a year, for practically nothing! I hope the next gen in a couple years ramps up that EV only range a bunch if so that would be outstanding!
I hate Toyota Bias. I drive 8 miles a day so the Outlander makes way more sense
Looking forward to seeing the CRV hybrid when it comes out next year.
I have to agree with everyone, Alex, you are very analytical and very detailed - an accountant’s ideal car reviewer. The more data, the better.
Well said.
The Outlander PHEV is the less expensive car if you can charge frequently, but the Rav4 hybrid is the better overall car. That said I look forward to the new Escape hybrid & especially the Rav4 PHEV once that arrives since I believe that car would really make the Mitsubishi redundant should it also have AWD.
This is an excellent review and comparison. Thank you.
RAV4 has a spare tire, whereas the Outlander does not. That's pretty conclusive to me.
OH LOOK! A 3 WHEELED SUV
I really like the outlander phev. It needs 40 or 50 more hp and have a tow rating in the US to make it on my list.
There is no third row seating on the Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid in the older model years.
Come on bro. You compare two different types of vehicles... a hybrid and a PHEV... These vehicles are not at all for the same people... 95% of my commutes are within the EV range of the Outlander... so my annual gaz cost is probably closer to 200$... maybe not even. You are comparing these two cars as if I was gonna do long trips on the Outlander...
You should simply say to for long trips, the RAV4's hybrid system is more efficient, while for short trips, the PHEV reigns absolutely supreme... End of the story XD no need for a 25 minutes video about it... Compare the RAV4 Prime with the Outlander PHEV... Don't compare a PHEV and a Hybrid... XD
So - with a little research you would have dismissed the Outlander PHEV immediately as a car to even buy !! Why? Ongoing worldwide fault with the BMU and rapid reported degradation of the traction battery. This has been festering for years with Mitsubishi refusing to help. Owners are now doing home hacks and purchasing MUT III devices to try and restore their battery capacity. Mitsubishi have over the years re worded their warranty statements to avoid any hassles with degradation !!! So - compare all you like - but buying a Mitsubishi PHEV - good luck with that - you will need it.
Yes, you are right about the battery problems, but that is not the only trouble.
Don't forget that the 4x4 system of the Outlander PHEV is not reliable !
The electric motor of the rear axle can not deliver the torque needed for real offroad traction.
Look for example at the youtubes : "Phev fail" and "phev on rollers".
That is also a reason for NOT buying a Outlander PHEV.
@@johnny_w 100% agree. Also only 4WD in EV mode, otherwise front wheel drive.
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So basicly the RAV4 is the better car overall and all the Mitsubishi has to offer is tax credit and car pool lane. xD
And a real world MPG of over 100 MPG
In real world driving, you're assumptions on efficiency are ill informed. The break even MPG point for these two cars is at a minimum 47 miles traveled. If one was to read through the Mitsubishi forum a EPA rating of 25 MPG is pessimistic. Most owners are achieving 30 MPG without any hypermiling. The real world experience shows the break even point at closer to 52 miles. the EPA rating of 22 miles electric only range is very accurate.
If we look at the numbers pessimistically the average driver would have to drive more than 47 miles per day for the RAV4 to become more economic to drive. How many people drive 17155 miles per year? less then 15% of Americans.
Not to nitpick Alex, but I've noticed this on a couple videos with ground clearance comparisons. From 2014 to 2020 the Nissan Rogue has had a couple different ground clearance numbers. But to my knowledge in each of those years the AWD variant had a higher GC number than the 2WD. For instance the 2019 and 2020 AWD currently has 8.4 inches of GC putting it near the top of the list VS. the 7.8 of the 2WD variant.
They don't compare
Almost 200 comments and no one has mentioned that OpenPilot is only compatible with the RAV4. OpenPilot brings amazing Level 2 autonomy to almost 60 compatible vehicles now, dramatically reducing or nearly eliminating the stress of driving. The latest RAV4 Hybrid features Toyota's TSS 2.0, which raises the Lane Keeping Assist hardware to new levels. Pairing that up with OpenPilot gives you endless hours of relaxing drive time.
Other than 20-ish miles of all electric range, it's hard to see any compelling reason or use case to purchase the "OutlUnder" over the Rav4. The OutlAnder is obviously an older designed and probably adapted to electrification rather than designed for it from scratch. Take a look at Ford C-Max plug in. Nice car, but Ford sacrificed a huge amount of cargo space to house the battery pack high up and to the rear. Nice car (the C-Max), but compromised in PEV form. Pity Ford ditched it.
This guy doesn’t know what he speaks!
You don’t meant to use all the juice and thereafter the petrol, you have to learn to drive economically!
His comparison about the efficiency is wrong!
The outlander PHEV is designed for people how commute daily less than 50 miles.
Many americans dont like mitsu, but filipinos yes more mitsu on the road, im a filipino i dont like mitsu
Go check for any Mitsubishi used to see resale value before buy. It’s very bad unreliable car.
I know it’s not in the same vehicle class but it’s crazy how the Pacifica E-hybrid would destroy this pair of CUVs Aside from AWD. It’s bigger sits 7 gets 33 EV miles (84mpgE beating the outlanders EV range, and fuel efficiency) & while the 33mpg is shy of the 40 in the rav4 the 33 gas-free miles takes about 5 gallons of non EV driving to match the Pacifica meaning if u can charge nightly and drive less than ~180 miles daily the Pacifica becomes more economical. Considering that Toyota has been in hybrids for over 20 years, Mitsubishi has refined the outlander phev for ~7 years and Chrysler’s first in house PHEV managed to still outperform on a larger heavier (granted different class) vehicle is pretty amazing.
As a Canadian I would love to see the Ontario-built Pacifica succeed but FCA has a well deserved reputation for nightmarish QDR. Their proposed merger with PSA will only make the nightmare worse. Luckily I can buy a made in Canada RAV4 Hybrid instead. We will see who gets the assignment to build the plug-in RAV4. I know Kentucky will soon be building RAV4 Hybrids in some form as well.
Agreed but the Pacifica, even only as 2WD, is much more expensive.
@@Darrenhd2 I expect a Hybrid Sienna is just around the corner. We have to wait for the hype campaign around the new Highlander to quiet down before an announcement.