I carried a .40 during my full 20 year law enforcement career and it brought me through two officer-involved shootings. I hear all of the talk about 9mm, blah, blah, blah however I am still alive due to a .40 so I have no intentions of changing my caliber of choice now that I have retired.
Glad you are still alive sir thank you for your service my uncle was a police officer for 25 years I myself have been a corrections officer and done security a lot never a police officer but just wanted to say thank you again
Also with most compact guns, there isn't much difference in capacity. Most concealed carry instances are up close, and only involve a couple of shots at that range. The .40 just has more knockdown power. As for car jackings, the .40 reliably penetrates car doors.
Yep, I use two .40 with me every day and night, like in old west, Doc Hollyday way, one old P229 and one new MP2.40, and I have been testing them for a lot time with no isues and those babies are very accurates,
While most people would carry a compact handgun for a CCW, I personally carry a full size S&W M&P40 as a CCW. I can hide it fairly well due to my size, plus it’s very comfortable to shoot and I have 15 rounds of .40S&W.
I don't understand why people carry little bitty guns. I'd rather have the round count, accuracy, and the velocity. It's a tool to save your life so why not try and have the upperhand in any scenario
Years ago my first handgun was a m&p shield .40. I learned on it and still carry it. I also own some 9mm’s that I carry from time to time. I always go back to the good old .40
This is the most clear, concise, and profound discourse on firearms and caliber choices I have heard in a long time. Thank you for not insulting our intelligence and actin' the idiot as so many of these gun channels on youtube are wont to do. I am now a subscriber as well. Thank you sir. Oh, and I almost forgot; I trust a .40 S&W to protect my family every night.
What a refreshing video. Carried .40 S&W for most of my 23 year federal LE career. Recoil felt no different than 9mm +P ammo I used to carry. Shot .40 four times a year. I continue to carry it into retirement. Love the caliber. Speer Gold Dot 165 gr. with my Glock 22 & 23. Like anything….practice, practice, practice. Thanks for profiling the .40 cartridge.
This man explains things clearly . The .40 to me , (70 yr old , arthritic , muscle and nerve problems ) is not too snappy in a duty size handgun . It is the "haymaker" that I can no longer swing . More ft-lbs than 9mm. That's it's role . Beautiful in a carbine .
40SW is what I usually recommend with the caveat that they try it first. Despite the talk of new bullet technology, anything the 9mm can do the 40SW can do better, whether it is muzzle energy, penetration, or just the size of the bullet holes.
All the new technology advances have been applied to 40 too. If you prefer non-sound barrier breaking ammo that still has some ft-lbs, you're almost limited to 147grain in 9 but there are more options in 40. The ext
Great video. Multi caliber shooter here and I will never take 40 out of my rotation or discredit it, ever. Awesome round and frankly just a lot of hatters/9mm obsessed folks out there that swear that’s the only option. HK USP 40 is my personal choice and I couldn’t be happier with its performance.
I'm torn right now. I've been carrying a jbframe for years. Now that I wear reading glasses, the j frame crummy sights aren't working for me. Torn between the glock g36 and g27. I carry 1911 occasionally and used to carry the glock 23 for work. The .45 is easier to shoot, but the .40 is more compact, more rounds and more energy.
Great video...excellent thought... I carried 40 caliber in a Smith and Wesson Model 411 for about half my career as an LEO. Prior to the 411, I carried 357 magnum, 41 magnum, and .45 ACP. I never owned a Glock until nine years after I retired, and it is the Glock 22. I carry it regularly in SE Texas where we have two seasons, summer and August. I shoot this gun at least twice a month...oh, by the way, I'm 70 years old and can still handle this handgun ! The biggest complaint I hear about the 40 cal is recoil snappiness. As is noted in the video, 40 cal was/is meant for a full-size service weapon. If the recoil is too much for a person in a full sized service weapon, hit the gym.
@@davidrdanner4232 Good for you, David. I knew a lot of LEO'S who carried the Glock 23...great LEO cartridge. You confirm, too, even as we age, we can handle the 40 cal cartridge. Stay safe...
I've had a .40 cal pistol since the early 90's and still own some to this day. Great caliber well suited to home defense, concealed carry or sport shooting at the range.
I carried the G22 for 20 of my 30 year law enforcement career. As I promoted into management I carried the G27. Now that I'm retired I carry the G23 and G27. I've seen the results of the 40 cal round on the body first hand, so I have confidence in the round. I've carried a 38*P, 9mm and 380, but the combination of the Glock pistol and the effectiveness of the 40 cal round give me piece of mind. Thanks for the content.
For anybody so unhappy with any .40 caliber ammo and you just want to get rid of it, I'll take it. I have a S&W M&P .40 that I carried as an officer that was given to me when I retired and just recently purchased a Kel-Tec Sub2K in you guessed it, SW .40 which accepts the same mags as my pistol.. A fantastic combo, in my opinion.
I have been carrying a 27 for about 2 decades. Its beat up, ugly, the finish is nearly shot, and i still love it like the day i got it. When you were talking about ammo availability, thats the beauty of pistols like 40 cal glocks. I have barrels for most of my glocks so i can shoot 40, 9, and 357 sig in them for that reason. 357 is another caliber that doesnt get enough credit. Another high pressure round with great ballistics.
@@michaeljoeallen9412 357 sig can in some, but the real thing you have to look for is bullet setback!!! 357 sig is very susceptible to setback just make sure you don't rechamber the same carry round to many times!!!
I have a S&W 40C compact 10 + 1. This is no longer in production by Smith & Wesson. This has been my standard carry for years. The pistol was trash talked when it first came out by the gun reviewers who seemed to be biased towards the upcoming micro 9’s. Due to the way it is engineered this pistol has become my “go to” carry. It shoots unbelievably well, rides very well on the hip or IWB. It is very accurate and because this has been my main choice for years, I handle it very well.
Bravo-Zulu! You are the FIRST You-Tuber that actually knows the facts about concealed carry weapon and calibers! I have been preaching the same type of arguments to people here for years but I keep getting crapped on for choosing 40sw but I know that it is a Very Capable Caliber. I was an old school shooter for many years but I finally saw the light and purchased a Gen 3 Glock 22 40sw on Sept 2004 and started to use it as my primary CCW and also used it for IDPA matches and I put over 50K from 2004-2013 when I purchased a SIG P226 40sw and I retired the Gen 3 G22 and got a new Gen 4 G22. I have been a fan of 40sw since 2004 and today I own several from Glock, SIG, Smith and Wesson and Walther. One thing that I always tell friends when they ask me what gun to get is get a 40sw because you can have 3 different calibers if you choose the right pistol. Pistols like Glock you can have a 40sw, 357sig and 9mm barrels all in a G22, G23, G24 or G35 pistol that is allot of flexibility and SIG pistols give a 40sw/357sig and most have Caliber conversion kit where you can get a new slide for going down to 9mm. Because of all the active shooting that have happened I have upped the type of ammo that I carry to Underwood 135gr JHP 40sw which works GREAT out of a Glock, SIG and Walther pistols! This ammo is High Performance with a Muzzle Velocity of 1400 FPS and Muzzle Energy of 588 Ft/Lbs that is serious power coming of a 4.6 inch barrel and even if the target has body armor the amount of Energy that is being DELIVERED will CAUSE Internal Injuries that is something that NO 9mm ammo can say!
Love 40. Makes a nice big hole. 40 ammo is easier to find. Put all my 40 pistols in safe, got on the 9mm bandwagon. And when the 9mm ammo went away. I pulled the trusty G22 and P229 back out. And had ton of 40 ammo Squirreled away. Good to go. Just added them to my EDC rotation with my G19 now
My girlfriend at the time, wife now, had a full sized Springfield something or another in 9mm. It was quite "snappy". We got her an HK USP compact in .40 S&W. It was about the same, if not a little less depending on ammo, than the Springfield. Just thought I'd share.
I find my Gen 5 Glock 22 quite pleasant to shoot. Slide is a bit wider and heavier then the Gen 4 and Gen 3 model 22's making it about 3 ounces heavier. Not much difference to me from my Gen 5 Glock 19.
Yeah people are definitely super sensitive, my mom shot g27 .40 and said it was way more smoother recoil, accurate and easier shooting than her .38 snub nose , honestly i cant tell much of a difference between the 9 and 40 recoil wise weather full compact or subcompact, the only time ive ever shot something and it actually hurt my hand was the glock 36 in .45, every other 45 especially 1911s no issues month as butter ,but the 40 has similar capacity as the 9 and if you can shoot both just as accurately it cant hurt goin with 40 , i own several 9s 40 and 45 and they all do the job and are effiecient just practice and use what your comfortable with, a bullet is a bullet , ive carried 380 and 38 when younger to argue about wich will kill more is just silly , compared to rifles and shotguns there not huge difference amongst handguns
@@brandonnevarez8417 I added an aftermarket fully supported barrel on mine + a Wolff non-captured steel guide rod with a 20lb spring from the same brand now it's smoother & better lockup. At first I put a 22lb spring like a lot of people recommend but it was too heavy it was hitting low & having trouble sliding forward that's how I knew it was too stiff that's like for 357Sig or 10mm. I agree that 38spl snubs recoil a lot so do 380acp pocket pistols.
I carried .40 my entire LE career. I had to qualify 4 times a year on the G22, only once a year on my backup, the G27 and always qualified better with the 27.
Those people that THINK they have to have their pinky finger on the grip JUST CAN'T SHOOT as well as those of US that can ADAPT & OVERCOME because your MAIN POWER IN YOUR GRIP IS THE TWO MIDDLE FINGERS on your hand!!!
I really love the little Glock 27, I have 2 of them, a gen3 and a gen4! I never use any finger extensions or longer mags in them, it's not thier purpose and will just print longer if you use those! I like having my pinky under the mag and always shoot them that way. I also really like the thicker frame of the 27 versus some of the single stack guns, I feel that it spreads recoil out over more of the web of my hand. I apply the same theories to both of my Glock 29 gen4s, which I actually find easier to shoot than the 27s, but the 27s really are smaller enough over the 29s that they carry well when the 29s are just a bit too big! I use the same practice and duty ammo as the local Sherriff department and the 27s love it! I only shoot 180 grain bullets on a normal basis, some 135s rarely, and they love those, too! I consider the 27s to be the "chiefs special" of the Glocks, and I've owned nearly every thing else! You just can't beat the .40 in that small Glock, it just works so well in so many different situations!
I have the original Shield M&P .40c (compact) I've used as my EDC for almost 10 years now. I've never been more dead-on accurate out of the box with absolutely zero failures or jams. I have big hands (need XXL) gloves and the clip they provided with the pinky extension fits like a dream in my hand. Great video, subscribed!
as much as i love the .40 s&w i agree, it is ideal for the full-size/duty semi-auto handguns and ok for compact semi-auto handguns and not good for subcompact semi-auto handguns, 9mm is ideal for compact and subcompact semi-auto handguns! .357 magnum is ideal for 4" inch revolvers for carry!
A .40 S&W Shield is my EDC, occasionally I may carry a Taurus 9mm or an XDs 45 - But I'd say the 40 shield is with me 90% of the time. Edit to add, I agree 💯% - .40 will be back, that I have no doubt about.
Bought my .40 about 7 yrs ago. I had shot plenty as a kid and very occasionally as an adult so I wasn’t as knowledgeable than as I am now. Main reason I got it is because of the price point. What I chose was on sale and got recommendations from a fellow coworker. At one point, I always said if I had to do it all over again I would go with 9 mm. But since I have joined a shooting range and have practiced and trained with it, that is no longer the case. It’s amazing how quickly I became more proficient and accurate with practice. It certainly does have a snap, but the more I shoot, the less it matters because I am able to control it much better now and will continue to do so. My only issue is finding a comfortable holster or way to carry it. I have a Ruger SR40c and it’s a little on the larger side of what is considered a compact. Especially the grip, I would consider it somewhat fat. I am a pretty lean guy of smaller frame and very little body fat and I have yet to find a comfortable IWB holster.I mostly use a belly band which is fine for the fall and winter months when I have more and bigger clothes on, but in the summer it’s a challenge to conceal my weapon well as it tends to print more in my summer clothes. I’m just going to be patient and try to get a good comfortable IWB so I can continue to use this as my EDC. Appreciate the video. Very well put and you certainly hit on some key points I had never considered before.
As you stated, the popularity of the 9mm can work against it in troubling times…exactly when you need both your firearm and the freedom seeds it eats. I had no difficulty whatsoever finding ammo for my Springfield EMP 40 S&W, both ball and self-defense ammo were readily available. Furthermore, I was able to pickup 2,000 new, primed 40 S&W cases, so my ability to load throughout the pandemic…and still today…was unhindered.
I carry 40 caliber last 20 years and stand by my 180 gr bullet Use a SR40 upgraded to have a 3.5 lbs. trigger! and used the GHOST ROCKET TRIGGER RESET BAR! and a 22 lbs. recoil spring with a heavy striker spring and all stainless steal parts with talon grip and no name rubber grip over it so it doesn't slide around!
Great points and video! You're right about the training. I love the .40, in fact I inserted 357Sig into my carry rotation after making sure that I can consistently get tight groups at defense target distances. The only downside to the 357Sig is the price. From that note is where 40S&W comes in. Swap barrel, and there you go! Plus, 40 prices are good right now.
YES!! THANK YOU!!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE .40 s&w!! it is my favorite cartridge caliber! .40 s&w is the ideal cartridge caliber, but 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though! between 135gr minimum and 165gr maximum parameters is best, with 155gr/150gr being the ideal bullet weight for the .40 s&w!
@@perplexingperceptions8888 ya it is good, but i think 155gr is the ideal bullet weight for the .40 s&w, but we can both agree that 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though!
For my M&P Shield 40cal I use 135gr low recoil federal. I also have 165gr hornady. This was my first gun purchase and first gun I've ever shot 3 years ago. I used 180gr fmj at the range and after about 50 rounds I was used to the recoil. I really don't understand the big deal with the recoil. I shoot the 40cal equally as good as the 9mm.
@@GeneralGlockasiah it's all bs smears, lies, disinfo, misinfo, misunderstandings and bias on the .40 s&w, usually by the insecure 9mm fanboys that are overcompensating by trying to handicap the mighty and superior .40 s&w
So in all seriousness, if you where to shoot some kind of "meat" target (not gel where you can see 1/2" difference in penetration) with either 135g&150g or 155g&165, they would be indistinguishable wounds. Now I'm assuming and may be wrong . I feel I Iike what's more important is that you are always firing a round that's not going to change and your POI, by the FPS/ velocity being too different. If you have 2 or 3 shots that are where your trying to put them any difference in ammo isn't going to matter. And of course I don't mean a fmj vs a hp.
A Lee county Fl. deputy told me a story of why he switched from 9 to 40. It made me switch at the time. Today I carry a 380 everyday but I still have a S&W 40 V.
Thanks for the video. There are 3 things that change recoil which are firearm weight, projectile speed, projectile weight. If any one of those is changed there will be more or less recoil depending on the change. A Glock 17 recoils less than a Glock 22 and similarly the 19 and 26 recoil less than the 23, 27 due to the base firearms in each size weighing essentially the same as the same size but different firearm. 9mm projectiles typically range from 115-147 grain. 40 S&W typically run 155-180 grain. There are options outside the listed weights but these are generally what's seen. Speeds for the 9mm are in the 1100-1200 fps range and the 40 S&W commonly go 850-1100. The numbers of each caliber and firearm show why a 40 S&W recoils more than a 9mm. Same weight firearm running a heavier projectile at similar to slightly slower speeds depending on load. The felt recoil of a 40 S&W is more due to these factors. Run a 40 S&W in a heavier platform like a 1911, CZ 75, Or S&W 4006 and the round becomes easier to shoot well.
Typically the 1911 platform will go to the 10mm due to the length and overall size of the round. I don't remember if 1911 production firearms are/we're chambered in 40S&W. The other thing with running a 40 S&W in a 1911 could be feeding reliability if there's not a supply of compatible magazines. Just a couple of thoughts
@@carlostrujillo4750 There are plenty of companies making 1911s in .40 S&W. Sig Sauer, Rock Island Armory, Les Baer, STI, Para Ordnance, and plenty more discontinued models that you can still find used.
@@carlostrujillo4750 Kimber used to make 1911s in .40 and the RIA/Armscor 1911s are very affordable. All this stuff can be found with a quick Google search.
Great video! The .40 S&W is an excellent ammo. The only reason I carry my Glock 19 for my EDC instead of my Glock 22, the 22 is heavier and bigger! I may get Glock 23 which is the same size as the Glock 19 but it uses the .40 S&W.
Thanks for viewing! I am a big fan of the Glock 23. A fine weapon by any standard and finding a quality holster will definitely help with the added weight of any platform.
I picked up a never issued police surp g23 and got a alpha wolf 9mm threaded conversion barrel for it. Shoots 40cal and 9mm with a simple barrel and mag swap. Its now one of the last guns I'd ever get rid of.
I bought a Walther p99 in 2008 when the first ammo shortage happened (thanks Obama) it was the only ammo I could get at Walmart at the time. Great gun and great round. I picked up a glock 23 not only for the .40 s&w but for the ability to throw a .357sig barrel in it to keep feeding it when one type of ammo gets to hard to find.
I have multiple guns in just about every caliber, and I study and research all of them. Every caliber has its pros and cons and you can’t have everything. 40 is the best compromise in all directions and I personally think it is better than 9mm, 45, 357, 38, and 357 sig.
I carry a full size Smith and Wesson M&P .40. I put in an Apex Trigger and True Glow Night Sights. It holds 15 + 1, and I carry 2 extra mags. I Love it! 😊
Great video. I have pistols chambered in a few different calibers, including .40 and 9mm. Modern 9mm is very effective, but if you compare a 9mm Gold dot or Federal HST to a .40 equivalent, there's no question the .40 hits harder. The energy lb/ft of a typical .40 S&W is equal to or greater than that of a typical .45 ACP, but the capacity in most guns is closer to 9mm. IMO .40 is a more versatile caliber. There are target loads pushing barely over 300 lb/ft, and +P loads close to 600 lb/ft. 9mm can't do that. With .40 you can potentially use the same pistol for concealed carry, home defense, and even large predator defense with +P hard cast. Something like a S&W compact 4 inch or Glock 23 would allow that.
Very well said! 40s&w is very powerful as well as reliable. I carry a Glock 27 with a Glock 23 mag which gives me 10+1. I also have the Pearce Grip sleeve and extension on the 23 mag. And I have a full tungsten guide rod assembly installed which actually does work with recoil giving a bit more weight low up front. Stay safe God Bless ✌️🇺🇲
I have a Kahr PM40, even though it’s only 6 +1 rds (7rd mag on a reload) it’s incredibly slim and small footprint and is easily front pocket carried! It’s double action trigger is a long pull but it’s so smooth and is very safe to carry without a saftey. I don’t carry it as much nowadays but you could do way worse than 7rds of 40S&W! 👍🏻
Depending upon the weather, my EDC is a Beretta PX4 Storm in 40 S&W. If it's too hot outside I carry a Ruger snubby in 357. My previous EDC was a Browning Highpower also in 40 (Optimized and SFS System installed and Recoil Buffer System installed B.H. Spring Solutions) The Highpower is my all time favorite pistol, but went to DA/SA for my EDC because I also carry the Ruger revolver. Pull trigger, go bang! Love my 40s and my 357s.
Growing up my grandpa always had me shooting .40 on my 21st birthday he gave me the Glock 23 I always gravitated to when we went shooting and I still carry that same firearm 15 years later. Of course I’ve done upgrades but it worked flawlessly before and after made any changes. Will carry this firearm until I can’t carry anymore!
Just want to thank you on review it was well said and explained. I have a glock 22 and a taurus g2c .40 and I carry either one for a concealed to carry.
I absolutely LOVE my full sized S&W Sw40ve. Growing up my family was strictly a "wheel" gun family. And the S&W 40 was my first semi auto. I fell in love immediately with the caliber and semi autos. As far as an sec weapon I generally rotate between a Taurus Judge and my S&W 40, just depends on my mood. Thank you for the outstanding video's..... Keep up the good work!!
I will add a comment. I carry a .40 S&W VE. I have put 1000 plus rounds through. I have even shot IDPA with it. Never had a problem. I carry everyday with it. No problem with recoil at 165gr. Federal JHP. I also have been liking the price of .40 lately. Good videos. Thank you for sharing.
At first I thought you were going to cut down the 40 cal. I was gonna go 40 cal. on you, glad to see you love the round like I do great video. Great caliber it is not dead or bad to many people love it.
My buddies all shoot 9mm stating faster follow up shots. They practice with 115 grain target loads and carry 124 grain +p. I haven't asked them how their follow up shots are with the +p ammo......I imagine they shoot very little carry ammo. I have shot thousands and thousands of rounds of various caliber. Practice daily and weekly dry fire and mag changes. Live ammo teaches you to handle recoil but dry fire practice teaches you to handle your gun as second nature....cause it's free.
I have a hkp2000sk in .40. I shoot 2-3 times a year. I shoot it better than the Glock 27 and my Kimber Micro 9- 9mm. I like the LEM trigger and the mag release. I have accidentally dropped mag on Glock 27… The grip fits hand nice plus I have larger magazines with the xgrips which offers 3 more rounds and a full grip purchase. The reliability is great and take down simple. Happy camper here…
When the first 9mm ammo crunch happened, I sold my 9mm and purchased a full size 40s&w and never looked back, it loves 165gr bullets and it shoots........ thanks for the input !!
As a long time firearms instructor i could not agree more. I carry a Ruger sp-101 revolver because its the easiest gun to shoot for me. with +p .38 special ammo I can make every shot count. Your spot on with your advise. The best gun for anyone is the one you can place shots with. Thanks for a great Video.
I was a LEO with the DOD, and we went from 9mm Beretta DAO with like a 35lbs trigger pull (LOL). Then we went with an S&W M&P .40, I liked it so much I purchased one for myself. I now reside in Wyoming, so I am going with an H&K P30 L and a USP 45, so I can shoot .45 Super. I my also go with an FNX 45, with the 460 Roland conversion, which I will wear in a chest rig.
I LOVE my .40 s&w Shield, it’s the ideal back up gun and I usually only pop 50rds or less when I’m out plinking so the ammo cost for target ammo doesn’t hurt and the Speer gold dots I’ve found for less than 9mm. Having it in conjunction with my full sized Glock 34 is my perfect pistol pair for me because I love shooting lots of rounds with the 34 and getting a little more blast and recoil with shield in .40 s&w, the really getting the my finger and arms fatigued by cracking through a brick of .22 with the Browning Buck mark.
I got my XD 9102 in .40 only because it was my first gun, and I had to grab a gun quickly before going to an indoor range with my cousin. I was new to the gun world and it was my first time visiting a gun store and gun range. The salesman was very knowledgeable and suggested an XD instead of a Hi point. There were no 9mms in the XD line anywhere and my cousin wanted to get to the range. After calling around we decided that a .40 XD was more than adequate. I made a good choice and I still have that gun which is my home defense tool. I then went to a shot show and shot several Glocks in various calibers. My XD felt a lot better and still has minimal felt recoil even compare to the 9mm Glocks. I later purchased a Shield also in .40 a few years ago and that was supposed to be my EDC, but it eventually will be my conceal carry gun. I did research on the .40 because there were suggestions that a 9mm was better. Not true. I read several anecdotal stories about trauma surgeons who wrote about their experiences with gunshot victims. Quite a few wrote about the .40’s lethality compared to the 9mm. More survived 9mm gunshots but most didn’t survive any .40 gunshots. Finally, I read about the .40’s greater energy compared to the 9mm. Estimates are 13% to 15%. I’ll take those advantages especially after having faced 4 ghetto ex-cons who tried to do a home invasion while my handicapped, elderly mother and I were home. They were bigger and stronger than the average person. If it wasn’t for the need for capacity, I’d have gotten a 686 Smith & Wesson revolver using .357 loads. That was the smoothest and most pleasurable gun I’ve ever shot. The .357 round barely had any recoil, felt and actual recoil.
@@JasonON I'm hearing a lot of good things about the .40 S&W compact. A popular gun UA-camr said its her favorite gun and she tests and owns all kinds. Her explanation was very impressive to the point where I'll either get it or the Rolls Royce of guns, the CZ.
Thanks for a great video on the .40 S&W cartridge. I selected the S&W M&P .40C for personal use. This pistol came with 2 size grips. I have large hands and the large grip is a good fit to my hand. My little finger just naturally folds beneath the bottom of the grip when I draw it. This is comfortable in my hand when I fire it, including rapid follow-up shots. I prefer Winchister PDX 1 or Speer Gold Dot. both in 165 JHP.
I have a G27 and I put on Pearson Magazine Grip Extension. It works great for me. I did not like having my pinky not grabbing the gun. The other thing when capacity is brought up, I have 13 and 15 round magazine as a back up. I think, as a civilian that should be enough.
I have a Glock 19 in 9mm and Glock 23 in .40 cal. Absolutely love the .40 and it’s the most fun to shoot. I’m very accurate with it but then again I do go to the range almost each week
... I agree with what you said, the 40 isn't "dead" just that it's popularity is waning. Remember that the 10mm was considered a "dead" round back in the late 90's, but just look at it now ..
I moved to the .40"S&W-180gr JHP in 1990 and never looked back, to this day. In fact at first my "dream pistol" was Col. Cooper's GP35 in .40"G&A... but that was a wildcat, pistol AND round, that no one ever made ammo for in any numbers to matter. So for EDC I kept going from and to, a Combat Commander (my load of choice at the time been the 185gr JHP .45"ACP at around 1,000fps) and a FN-HP/GP35 or a HK-P7M11, without really been truly satisfied by none of the above. To make a really long story short (because at first I really hated the Combat Tupperware... ugly son of a gun, plastic sights and horrible trigger!!!), in 1990 Glock introduced it's G23gen2 and... I just fell head over heels on the concept of the 13,15 and even later 22 180gr .40" rounds at around 1,000fps in a comparable package to my Combat Commander! So, to say that I became a G23/.40" fanboy is probably a huge understatement. By the way my wife, who's really petite, "liberated" a G27 from the safe as her EDC around the turn of the century?... She's 1.5m tall and weights 43kg in her jeans and boots, and none of us is in prime shape anymore, but she shoots her G27 LIKE A BOSS! So my advise to the people who find the .40"S&W "too hot to handle", it's just a matter of technique really. Not strength, technique and working at it a little. Shooting is a perishable skill anyway, so you have to keep at it if you want to stay sharp... and we love to shoot our .40"s. :>0
My first handgun was a 40. That was 30 years ago. I haven’t shot it in 25 years but just recently pulled it out and cleaned it. I intend to start practicing with it again. I also intent to get a 9mm which may become my primary as recoil is less. I will not, however, part with the 40. It has some sentimental value to me and frankly it’s a wonderful weapon.
My Kahr Arms CW40 I carried for a long time concealed. It's got a 3.6" barrel and it's chambered in .40 S&W. It holds 7 rds plus 1 in the chamber. I later purchased a Sig P226 that I turned into my edc piece and it is also chambered in .40 S&W and I can tell you that it shoots plenty straight. It's harder to conceal as it's got a 4.5" barrel and it's got a 12 rd. mag capacity with 1 in the chamber. I'm used to shooting a 1911 .45acp that I really like so shooting the .40 cals are not unpleasant to shoot and the recoil isn't bad at all.
The first firearm that I ever bought was a smith 40 semi. I bought it, let's just say 20 years ago and I still have it. I just bought myself a smith m&p m2.0 in 40 caliber. I figured. I already have two 9mm. So, why not get another 40. If I can ever find a good holster for it. I will start carrying it. Thanks for the info.
I have Both HK P-30V3 and P-30V1 Lem both are .40 I always Love them both even that the trigger not the best in the world but I adapt to it I carry it concealed wherever I go
The history of the .40 S&W has it's origins with the .41 Magnum S&W revolver. It never gained the popularity with LEO who it was designed for but the frame is simply too heavy to be a practical everyday carry. But it's advance is 20% less recoil than the .44 S&W Magnum and stopping power greater than the .357 Magnum that was currently in use at the time.
I regularly carry either a p229 or a p239 in 40. I also have 357 sig barrels for both. both are easy to shoot accurately for me. the recoil doesn't bother me at all.
I don't listen to negativity about the 40 S&W, it's been my primary carry caliber since 2005. And my weapon of choice is the XD40 Service. After my first XD40 was stolen, I bought a Kahr CT40 as it's replacement. Bad choice- I liked everything about It, but could not get used to the Trigger. Sold it and went back to the XD40 Service. Go with what you know. Great video!
I purchased a Glock 22 Gen4 3 weeks ago, a law enforcement trade in and I love it. I was told by people at the gun range where I'm a member is "the 40 has a lot of snap". Well, so does my Glock 20 Gen4, the Walther PPQ .45 and the CZ P10F in .45. I make sure that the grip is comportable and I do exercises to strengthen my fingers, hands, wrists, forearms, etc in order to be able to manage the recoil. At 10 yards, I had a good tight shot group to the head area, but need to work on recoil anticipation. I even got some complements from other shooters on my accuracy. I'm looking for another .40, hopefully will find another one during the holiday season.
I got rid of my G23 even though it shot good groups, but I got tired of Glock knuckle from the poor undercut on the trigger guard. I've never had that issue with my EDC PPQ M2 in .40 and it shoots tighter groups (probably due to the better trigger). Also, I love hearing 9mm proponents talk about the advancements made in the 9mm round... it's still 9mm, not a .40. To get similar power you have to go to the 9mm+P or +P+.
I have 40 MP compact performance center. Many thousand rounds thru it. Shoots well is an extension of your hand and no stress aiming and remaining on target. Sometimes no aim needed, look and shoot.
I carry a Glock 32, 357 sig. I also have a 40 smith and Wesson barrel for it and swap it out on occasion. Both calibers and excellent, have zip. The 40 is a little more snappy than then357 sig, but I like them both! Ten years now as my EDC.
My first time watching your video. I absolutely loved everything you said. Looking forward to watching more. I’ve had a AMT 1011 40 that I’ve been carrying but recently traded another gun on a Walther PPS 40 & after few mags at the range I’m in love.
40 SW is the best all around IMO. I have several pistols from 380 (Ruger), 9 (SW/Glock), 40 (SW), 45 (Glock), 10 (SW/Glock.) Only one .40 so far, but it is my favorite of all of them. The .40 in the M&P 2.0 .40 4" Compact is my favorite of all of mine. I shoot it better than any other, and the impulse of it is ideal to my mechanics.
The M&P 2.0 40 4” is the gun I’m leaning towards. Also looking at the Glock 23 but I’m pretty set on the M&P. Only handgun experience I have is with the M9 when I was in the Marines. Grip felt too big for my smaller hands. Hoping I can maneuver and control the M&P.
@@martee4 You'll love the M&P...IMO, it's the best there is for the money when all things are considered. And with the 40, you're getting the most versatile one. Look into Apex Tactical. They've tons of stuff for M&Ps. I also own a few Glocks. I like them, the aftermarket support is nice, but M&P I much prefer to them if I'm honest. Cant go wrong either way though honestly.
Years ago I decided to get my CCW. Spent 2 hours trying to find a something I liked in a shield or "smaller" carry weapon. Nothing was right. I ended up getting a full size M&P in.40 and bigger shirts.
Thanks for your post. I have the FNX 40 pistol. It ships with a 10 round and14 round magazine. Recoil is the highest of any of my handguns including me .357 magnum. That said, the recoil is manageable. My local police department carries 40 S&W.
I carried a .40 during my full 20 year law enforcement career and it brought me through two officer-involved shootings. I hear all of the talk about 9mm, blah, blah, blah however I am still alive due to a .40 so I have no intentions of changing my caliber of choice now that I have retired.
Glad you are still alive sir thank you for your service my uncle was a police officer for 25 years I myself have been a corrections officer and done security a lot never a police officer but just wanted to say thank you again
Agree
AMEN BROTHER.... thank you for your service
I'm not expert, but tests had show the power punch of the 40cal is above the 9mm
Right on! Thank you for your service.
Carrying 40 SW makes even more sense in states imposed 10 rds mag capacity limitation.
Yup but boooo
go to America and buy normal mags.
Also with most compact guns, there isn't much difference in capacity. Most concealed carry instances are up close, and only involve a couple of shots at that range. The .40 just has more knockdown power. As for car jackings, the .40 reliably penetrates car doors.
@@viperdemonz-jenkinsplenty of places in USA don't allow more than 10 rds. Thank God I live in a red state.
@@tim777us yea well I live right on that beautiful Idaho border so can get standard mags.
The 40 is my favorite Beretta PX4 Storm. I don’t leave home without it.
Great gun.
Yes, great firearm I have one.
I have that gun in full size it’s awesome
I carry a .40 every day. I love shooting my .40's! You just gained a subscriber.
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Yep, I use two .40 with me every day and night, like in old west, Doc Hollyday way, one old P229 and one new MP2.40, and I have been testing them for a lot time with no isues and those babies are very accurates,
M&P 2.0 4.25" also. And a S&W SD40VE.
@@xgcskiman I love my SD40VE. Great shooter. I also have a Glock 27 I carried daily for quite a few years. Also a great shooter in .40 cal.
Firestar M-40 very little recoil, all steel it has some weight 40 S&W only way to go
While most people would carry a compact handgun for a CCW, I personally carry a full size S&W M&P40 as a CCW. I can hide it fairly well due to my size, plus it’s very comfortable to shoot and I have 15 rounds of .40S&W.
I carry the M&P40 3.60" compact. It's the best! Holds 13+1 and shoots almost as good as the full-size
I don't understand why people carry little bitty guns. I'd rather have the round count, accuracy, and the velocity. It's a tool to save your life so why not try and have the upperhand in any scenario
Years ago my first handgun was a m&p shield .40. I learned on it and still carry it. I also own some 9mm’s that I carry from time to time. I always go back to the good old .40
This is the most clear, concise, and profound discourse on firearms and caliber choices I have heard in a long time. Thank you for not insulting our intelligence and actin' the idiot as so many of these gun channels on youtube are wont to do. I am now a subscriber as well. Thank you sir. Oh, and I almost forgot; I trust a .40 S&W to protect my family every night.
What a refreshing video. Carried .40 S&W for most of my 23 year federal LE career. Recoil felt no different than 9mm +P ammo I used to carry. Shot .40 four times a year. I continue to carry it into retirement. Love the caliber. Speer Gold Dot 165 gr. with my Glock 22 & 23. Like anything….practice, practice, practice. Thanks for profiling the .40 cartridge.
Love my Glock 23 Gen5 as an IWB EDC.
8:24 - "last ammo available on the shelf" is exactly why I bought my G27. Very happy with it.
Great points. Proficiency and control over everything. Caliber means nothing if you can’t hit
This man explains things clearly . The .40 to me , (70 yr old , arthritic , muscle and nerve problems ) is not too snappy in a duty size handgun . It is the "haymaker" that I can no longer swing . More ft-lbs than 9mm. That's it's role . Beautiful in a carbine .
40SW is what I usually recommend with the caveat that they try it first. Despite the talk of new bullet technology, anything the 9mm can do the 40SW can do better, whether it is muzzle energy, penetration, or just the size of the bullet holes.
All the new technology advances have been applied to 40 too. If you prefer non-sound barrier breaking ammo that still has some ft-lbs, you're almost limited to 147grain in 9 but there are more options in 40. The ext
I started with 9mm because it was cool and I liked the idea of more capacity. I run a Glock 22 now and I love it. 40 is a great round.
Yeah why I got a 9mm was capacity n cheap to practice with I like that my 9mm can hold 1+18 vs my usp can only hold 1+13
Great video. Multi caliber shooter here and I will never take 40 out of my rotation or discredit it, ever. Awesome round and frankly just a lot of hatters/9mm obsessed folks out there that swear that’s the only option. HK USP 40 is my personal choice and I couldn’t be happier with its performance.
I'm torn right now. I've been carrying a jbframe for years. Now that I wear reading glasses, the j frame crummy sights aren't working for me. Torn between the glock g36 and g27. I carry 1911 occasionally and used to carry the glock 23 for work. The .45 is easier to shoot, but the .40 is more compact, more rounds and more energy.
Great video...excellent thought...
I carried 40 caliber in a Smith and Wesson Model 411 for about half my career as an LEO. Prior to the 411, I carried 357 magnum, 41 magnum, and .45 ACP. I never owned a Glock until nine years after I retired, and it is the Glock 22. I carry it regularly in SE Texas where we have two seasons, summer and August. I shoot this gun at least twice a month...oh, by the way, I'm 70 years old and can still handle this handgun !
The biggest complaint I hear about the 40 cal is recoil snappiness. As is noted in the video, 40 cal was/is meant for a full-size service weapon. If the recoil is too much for a person in a full sized service weapon, hit the gym.
Absolutely. Hit the gym and/or meter still work on your technique. Simple... :>0
Hit the gym.amen brother.toofunny.yes sir ree
the recoil is worse on my 9 than my 40
I carry a G23 40cal for over 20+ years!!
Oh by the way I'm 75 years of age. My hunting hand gun is a 41mag 8" !!
@@davidrdanner4232 Good for you, David. I knew a lot of LEO'S who carried the Glock 23...great LEO cartridge.
You confirm, too, even as we age, we can handle the 40 cal cartridge. Stay safe...
I've had a .40 cal pistol since the early 90's and still own some to this day. Great caliber well suited to home defense, concealed carry or sport shooting at the range.
I carried the G22 for 20 of my 30 year law enforcement career. As I promoted into management I carried the G27. Now that I'm retired I carry the G23 and G27. I've seen the results of the 40 cal round on the body first hand, so I have confidence in the round. I've carried a 38*P, 9mm and 380, but the combination of the Glock pistol and the effectiveness of the 40 cal round give me piece of mind. Thanks for the content.
I've seen the effects too on wild boar carcasses before butchering to see what it's like on flesh & bone.
For anybody so unhappy with any .40 caliber ammo and you just want to get rid of it, I'll take it. I have a S&W M&P .40 that I carried as an officer that was given to me when I retired and just recently purchased a Kel-Tec Sub2K in you guessed it, SW .40 which accepts the same mags as my pistol.. A fantastic combo, in my opinion.
I have plenty of 40 cal rounds in my gun closet for my Glock 27 Gen 5. I am extremely accurate with that pistol.
Yep, and the Glock 23 and 22 are very good and accurate guns,
I have been carrying a 27 for about 2 decades. Its beat up, ugly, the finish is nearly shot, and i still love it like the day i got it.
When you were talking about ammo availability, thats the beauty of pistols like 40 cal glocks. I have barrels for most of my glocks so i can shoot 40, 9, and 357 sig in them for that reason. 357 is another caliber that doesnt get enough credit. Another high pressure round with great ballistics.
I've heard of feed problems in 357 sig. Is that true?
Yeah .357sig ammo has a high pressure price tag too! I'll just stick to 165g .40cal.
@@michaeljoeallen9412 357 sig can in some, but the real thing you have to look for is bullet setback!!! 357 sig is very susceptible to setback just make sure you don't rechamber the same carry round to many times!!!
I have a S&W 40C compact 10 + 1. This is no longer in production by Smith & Wesson. This has been my standard carry for years. The pistol was trash talked when it first came out by the gun reviewers who seemed to be biased towards the upcoming micro 9’s. Due to the way it is engineered this pistol has become my “go to” carry. It shoots unbelievably well, rides very well on the hip or IWB. It is very accurate and because this has been my main choice for years, I handle it very well.
I'm trying to snag a 2.0 40c
@@ballsack8937I have that gun and I highly recommend it!
I just bought an M&P40C, even better than m&P40 m2.0 Compact for a concealed carry pistol!
Gen 5 Glock 23 is a great conceal carry. Period.
Bravo-Zulu! You are the FIRST You-Tuber that actually knows the facts about concealed carry weapon and calibers! I have been preaching the same type of arguments to people here for years but I keep getting crapped on for choosing 40sw but I know that it is a Very Capable Caliber. I was an old school shooter for many years but I finally saw the light and purchased a Gen 3 Glock 22 40sw on Sept 2004 and started to use it as my primary CCW and also used it for IDPA matches and I put over 50K from 2004-2013 when I purchased a SIG P226 40sw and I retired the Gen 3 G22 and got a new Gen 4 G22. I have been a fan of 40sw since 2004 and today I own several from Glock, SIG, Smith and Wesson and Walther. One thing that I always tell friends when they ask me what gun to get is get a 40sw because you can have 3 different calibers if you choose the right pistol. Pistols like Glock you can have a 40sw, 357sig and 9mm barrels all in a G22, G23, G24 or G35 pistol that is allot of flexibility and SIG pistols give a 40sw/357sig and most have Caliber conversion kit where you can get a new slide for going down to 9mm.
Because of all the active shooting that have happened I have upped the type of ammo that I carry to Underwood 135gr JHP 40sw which works GREAT out of a Glock, SIG and Walther pistols! This ammo is High Performance with a Muzzle Velocity of 1400 FPS and Muzzle Energy of 588 Ft/Lbs that is serious power coming of a 4.6 inch barrel and even if the target has body armor the amount of Energy that is being DELIVERED will CAUSE Internal Injuries that is something that NO 9mm ammo can say!
Love 40. Makes a nice big hole. 40 ammo is easier to find. Put all my 40 pistols in safe, got on the 9mm bandwagon. And when the 9mm ammo went away. I pulled the trusty G22 and P229 back out. And had ton of 40 ammo Squirreled away. Good to go. Just added them to my EDC rotation with my G19 now
About the recoil, I was expecting wrist breaking recoil when I first bought my Glock22 & to my surprise it wasn't much different than my Glock19 9mm.
Try it in a metal gun. Much better.
My girlfriend at the time, wife now, had a full sized Springfield something or another in 9mm. It was quite "snappy". We got her an HK USP compact in .40 S&W. It was about the same, if not a little less depending on ammo, than the Springfield.
Just thought I'd share.
I find my Gen 5 Glock 22 quite pleasant to shoot. Slide is a bit wider and heavier then the Gen 4 and Gen 3 model 22's making it about 3 ounces heavier. Not much difference to me from my Gen 5 Glock 19.
Yeah people are definitely super sensitive, my mom shot g27 .40 and said it was way more smoother recoil, accurate and easier shooting than her .38 snub nose , honestly i cant tell much of a difference between the 9 and 40 recoil wise weather full compact or subcompact, the only time ive ever shot something and it actually hurt my hand was the glock 36 in .45, every other 45 especially 1911s no issues month as butter ,but the 40 has similar capacity as the 9 and if you can shoot both just as accurately it cant hurt goin with 40 , i own several 9s 40 and 45 and they all do the job and are effiecient just practice and use what your comfortable with, a bullet is a bullet , ive carried 380 and 38 when younger to argue about wich will kill more is just silly , compared to rifles and shotguns there not huge difference amongst handguns
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I added an aftermarket fully supported barrel on mine + a Wolff non-captured steel guide rod with a 20lb spring from the same brand now it's smoother & better lockup. At first I put a 22lb spring like a lot of people recommend but it was too heavy it was hitting low & having trouble sliding forward that's how I knew it was too stiff that's like for 357Sig or 10mm. I agree that 38spl snubs recoil a lot so do 380acp pocket pistols.
This guy definitely makes sense. I carry and love my. G 27, Gen 5 and I shoot it very well.
Yeah. Throw a Glock 23 mag in a 27, and boom. Perfect gun.
I carried .40 my entire LE career. I had to qualify 4 times a year on the G22, only once a year on my backup, the G27 and always qualified better with the 27.
Those people that THINK they have to have their pinky finger on the grip JUST CAN'T SHOOT as well as those of US that can ADAPT & OVERCOME because your MAIN POWER IN YOUR GRIP IS THE TWO MIDDLE FINGERS on your hand!!!
I really love the little Glock 27, I have 2 of them, a gen3 and a gen4! I never use any finger extensions or longer mags in them, it's not thier purpose and will just print longer if you use those! I like having my pinky under the mag and always shoot them that way. I also really like the thicker frame of the 27 versus some of the single stack guns, I feel that it spreads recoil out over more of the web of my hand. I apply the same theories to both of my Glock 29 gen4s, which I actually find easier to shoot than the 27s, but the 27s really are smaller enough over the 29s that they carry well when the 29s are just a bit too big! I use the same practice and duty ammo as the local Sherriff department and the 27s love it! I only shoot 180 grain bullets on a normal basis, some 135s rarely, and they love those, too! I consider the 27s to be the "chiefs special" of the Glocks, and I've owned nearly every thing else! You just can't beat the .40 in that small Glock, it just works so well in so many different situations!
I have the original Shield M&P .40c (compact) I've used as my EDC for almost 10 years now. I've never been more dead-on accurate out of the box with absolutely zero failures or jams. I have big hands (need XXL) gloves and the clip they provided with the pinky extension fits like a dream in my hand. Great video, subscribed!
Magazine. Magazine. Magazine. Jesus
I EDC a PX4 Storm Compact in . 40 S&W it carries 12 + 1 & the recoil is so little you would think you are shooting a 9mm. Love the 40.
I also love the Px4 Storm. That is an underrated firearm for sure!!
I carry a Sig 229 SAS. Softer than my CZ75 variants in 9.
as much as i love the .40 s&w i agree, it is ideal for the full-size/duty semi-auto handguns and ok for compact semi-auto handguns and not good for subcompact semi-auto handguns, 9mm is ideal for compact and subcompact semi-auto handguns!
.357 magnum is ideal for 4" inch revolvers for carry!
Been carrying a 40 in one gun or another for edc since late 90s. No complaints & no regrets. Thanks
A .40 S&W Shield is my EDC, occasionally I may carry a Taurus 9mm or an XDs 45 - But I'd say the 40 shield is with me 90% of the time. Edit to add, I agree 💯% - .40 will be back, that I have no doubt about.
I have S&W Sheild 40 with integrated laser. I don't mind the recoil at all.
I carry the mp40c…10+1. I love it!
Bought my .40 about 7 yrs ago. I had shot plenty as a kid and very occasionally as an adult so I wasn’t as knowledgeable than as I am now. Main reason I got it is because of the price point. What I chose was on sale and got recommendations from a fellow coworker. At one point, I always said if I had to do it all over again I would go with 9 mm. But since I have joined a shooting range and have practiced and trained with it, that is no longer the case. It’s amazing how quickly I became more proficient and accurate with practice. It certainly does have a snap, but the more I shoot, the less it matters because I am able to control it much better now and will continue to do so. My only issue is finding a comfortable holster or way to carry it. I have a Ruger SR40c and it’s a little on the larger side of what is considered a compact. Especially the grip, I would consider it somewhat fat. I am a pretty lean guy of smaller frame and very little body fat and I have yet to find a comfortable IWB holster.I mostly use a belly band which is fine for the fall and winter months when I have more and bigger clothes on, but in the summer it’s a challenge to conceal my weapon well as it tends to print more in my summer clothes. I’m just going to be patient and try to get a good comfortable IWB so I can continue to use this as my EDC. Appreciate the video. Very well put and you certainly hit on some key points I had never considered before.
As you stated, the popularity of the 9mm can work against it in troubling times…exactly when you need both your firearm and the freedom seeds it eats. I had no difficulty whatsoever finding ammo for my Springfield EMP 40 S&W, both ball and self-defense ammo were readily available. Furthermore, I was able to pickup 2,000 new, primed 40 S&W cases, so my ability to load throughout the pandemic…and still today…was unhindered.
40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions
I carry 40 caliber last 20 years and stand by my 180 gr bullet Use a SR40 upgraded to have a 3.5 lbs. trigger! and used the GHOST ROCKET TRIGGER RESET BAR! and a 22 lbs. recoil spring with a heavy striker spring and all stainless steal parts with talon grip and no name rubber grip over it so it doesn't slide around!
Great points and video! You're right about the training. I love the .40, in fact I inserted 357Sig into my carry rotation after making sure that I can consistently get tight groups at defense target distances. The only downside to the 357Sig is the price. From that note is where 40S&W comes in. Swap barrel, and there you go! Plus, 40 prices are good right now.
I have been carrying .40 in my G22 for almost 30 years... no complaints here! G27 is just fine also. Thanks!
YES!! THANK YOU!!!
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE .40 s&w!!
it is my favorite cartridge caliber!
.40 s&w is the ideal cartridge caliber, but 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though!
between 135gr minimum and 165gr maximum parameters is best, with 155gr/150gr being the ideal bullet weight for the .40 s&w!
165 grain is the ideal bullet weight for 40s&w, IMO.
@@perplexingperceptions8888 ya it is good, but i think 155gr is the ideal bullet weight for the .40 s&w, but we can both agree that 180gr was always too heavy for the .40 s&w, great for the 10mm auto though!
For my M&P Shield 40cal I use 135gr low recoil federal. I also have 165gr hornady. This was my first gun purchase and first gun I've ever shot 3 years ago. I used 180gr fmj at the range and after about 50 rounds I was used to the recoil. I really don't understand the big deal with the recoil. I shoot the 40cal equally as good as the 9mm.
@@GeneralGlockasiah it's all bs smears, lies, disinfo, misinfo, misunderstandings and bias on the .40 s&w, usually by the insecure 9mm fanboys that are overcompensating by trying to handicap the mighty and superior .40 s&w
So in all seriousness, if you where to shoot some kind of "meat" target (not gel where you can see 1/2" difference in penetration) with either 135g&150g or 155g&165, they would be indistinguishable wounds. Now I'm assuming and may be wrong . I feel I Iike what's more important is that you are always firing a round that's not going to change and your POI, by the FPS/ velocity being too different. If you have 2 or 3 shots that are where your trying to put them any difference in ammo isn't going to matter. And of course I don't mean a fmj vs a hp.
I agree with your expertise on firearms 💯 percent.
Practice Practice Practice is the message!
I truly stand by my S&W 40 CAL.....
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Thank you for your viewership! Only effective training will allow you to survive a dangerous situation.
A Lee county Fl. deputy told me a story of why he switched from 9 to 40. It made me switch at the time. Today I carry a 380 everyday but I still have a S&W 40 V.
Thanks for the video. There are 3 things that change recoil which are firearm weight, projectile speed, projectile weight. If any one of those is changed there will be more or less recoil depending on the change. A Glock 17 recoils less than a Glock 22 and similarly the 19 and 26 recoil less than the 23, 27 due to the base firearms in each size weighing essentially the same as the same size but different firearm.
9mm projectiles typically range from 115-147 grain. 40 S&W typically run 155-180 grain. There are options outside the listed weights but these are generally what's seen. Speeds for the 9mm are in the 1100-1200 fps range and the 40 S&W commonly go 850-1100.
The numbers of each caliber and firearm show why a 40 S&W recoils more than a 9mm. Same weight firearm running a heavier projectile at similar to slightly slower speeds depending on load.
The felt recoil of a 40 S&W is more due to these factors. Run a 40 S&W in a heavier platform like a 1911, CZ 75, Or S&W 4006 and the round becomes easier to shoot well.
The 40 is not chambered in 1911.why????????
Typically the 1911 platform will go to the 10mm due to the length and overall size of the round. I don't remember if 1911 production firearms are/we're chambered in 40S&W. The other thing with running a 40 S&W in a 1911 could be feeding reliability if there's not a supply of compatible magazines. Just a couple of thoughts
@@carlostrujillo4750 There are plenty of companies making 1911s in .40 S&W. Sig Sauer, Rock Island Armory, Les Baer, STI, Para Ordnance, and plenty more discontinued models that you can still find used.
@@joshklaver47 I have never heard or seen a sig sauer 1911 platform in 40s&w.sti well I am not going to pay 3000 bucks for a custom pistol
@@carlostrujillo4750 Kimber used to make 1911s in .40 and the RIA/Armscor 1911s are very affordable. All this stuff can be found with a quick Google search.
The Beretta px4 compact with it's rotating barrel would seem to be optimal
I've carried a SIG 229 in .40 for the last 25 years. It has never failed me. 😊
Great video! The .40 S&W is an excellent ammo. The only reason I carry my Glock 19 for my EDC instead of my Glock 22, the 22 is heavier and bigger! I may get Glock 23 which is the same size as the Glock 19 but it uses the .40 S&W.
Thanks for viewing! I am a big fan of the Glock 23. A fine weapon by any standard and finding a quality holster will definitely help with the added weight of any platform.
I picked up a never issued police surp g23 and got a alpha wolf 9mm threaded conversion barrel for it. Shoots 40cal and 9mm with a simple barrel and mag swap. Its now one of the last guns I'd ever get rid of.
There are lots of great deals on law enforcement trade-in Glock 23s. You can't go wrong with a 23.
I bought a Walther p99 in 2008 when the first ammo shortage happened (thanks Obama) it was the only ammo I could get at Walmart at the time. Great gun and great round. I picked up a glock 23 not only for the .40 s&w but for the ability to throw a .357sig barrel in it to keep feeding it when one type of ammo gets to hard to find.
I have multiple guns in just about every caliber, and I study and research all of them. Every caliber has its pros and cons and you can’t have everything. 40 is the best compromise in all directions and I personally think it is better than 9mm, 45, 357, 38, and 357 sig.
I carry a full size Smith and Wesson M&P .40. I put in an Apex Trigger and True Glow Night Sights. It holds 15 + 1, and I carry 2 extra mags. I Love it! 😊
Bruh, you can leave a mag or two home
Great video. I have pistols chambered in a few different calibers, including .40 and 9mm. Modern 9mm is very effective, but if you compare a 9mm Gold dot or Federal HST to a .40 equivalent, there's no question the .40 hits harder. The energy lb/ft of a typical .40 S&W is equal to or greater than that of a typical .45 ACP, but the capacity in most guns is closer to 9mm. IMO .40 is a more versatile caliber. There are target loads pushing barely over 300 lb/ft, and +P loads close to 600 lb/ft. 9mm can't do that. With .40 you can potentially use the same pistol for concealed carry, home defense, and even large predator defense with +P hard cast. Something like a S&W compact 4 inch or Glock 23 would allow that.
There is no real thing as 40. Plus P
@@TheRealB1gA There is. Buffalo Bore makes .40 S&W +P ammo. It's definitely not common among other manufacturers, but .40 +P definitely exists.
@@hartsickdisciple it’s no different then the regular 40
@@TheRealB1gA Of course it is. They have 155 grains moving 1,300 FPS, so it's higher than standard pressure.
@@hartsickdisciple it’s the same as standard
Very well said! 40s&w is very powerful as well as reliable. I carry a Glock 27 with a Glock 23 mag which gives me 10+1. I also have the Pearce Grip sleeve and extension on the 23 mag. And I have a full tungsten guide rod assembly installed which actually does work with recoil giving a bit more weight low up front. Stay safe God Bless ✌️🇺🇲
I have a Kahr PM40, even though it’s only 6 +1 rds (7rd mag on a reload) it’s incredibly slim and small footprint and is easily front pocket carried! It’s double action trigger is a long pull but it’s so smooth and is very safe to carry without a saftey. I don’t carry it as much nowadays but you could do way worse than 7rds of 40S&W! 👍🏻
Kahrs are super underrated. The PM40 is an awesome choice.
I own a Kahr PM40. Carry w/ OEM extended mag.
Perfect setup for me
I don’t carry guns but I keep an old S&W 4013 at bedside. It was the last gun I purchased over 25 years ago and my favorite.
Depending upon the weather, my EDC is a Beretta PX4 Storm in 40 S&W. If it's too hot outside I carry a Ruger snubby in 357. My previous EDC was a Browning Highpower also in 40 (Optimized and SFS System installed and Recoil Buffer System installed B.H. Spring Solutions) The Highpower is my all time favorite pistol, but went to DA/SA for my EDC because I also carry the Ruger revolver. Pull trigger, go bang! Love my 40s and my 357s.
Because of this information I ordered a S&W M&P 2.0 from the custom shop. I can't wait for it to get here.
Growing up my grandpa always had me shooting .40 on my 21st birthday he gave me the Glock 23 I always gravitated to when we went shooting and I still carry that same firearm 15 years later. Of course I’ve done upgrades but it worked flawlessly before and after made any changes. Will carry this firearm until I can’t carry anymore!
Just want to thank you on review it was well said and explained. I have a glock 22 and a taurus g2c .40 and I carry either one for a concealed to carry.
I recently purchased a Shield 40 and took it to the range and LOVED IT. I rotate between the Shield Plus and Shield 40.
I absolutely LOVE my full sized S&W Sw40ve.
Growing up my family was strictly a "wheel" gun family.
And the S&W 40 was my first semi auto.
I fell in love immediately with the caliber and semi autos.
As far as an sec weapon I generally rotate between a Taurus Judge and my S&W 40, just depends on my mood.
Thank you for the outstanding video's..... Keep up the good work!!
EDC NOT SEC
I carry my Glock 23 in the winter months. Underwood extreme defender 100 grains at 1500fps is a BAD ASS round imo.
I will add a comment. I carry a .40 S&W VE. I have put 1000 plus rounds through. I have even shot IDPA with it. Never had a problem. I carry everyday with it. No problem with recoil at 165gr. Federal JHP. I also have been liking the price of .40 lately. Good videos. Thank you for sharing.
That's an awesome gun, and great value for money. Props for running it in competition as well. 😎
At first I thought you were going to cut down the 40 cal. I was gonna go 40 cal. on you, glad to see you love the round like I do great video. Great caliber it is not dead or bad to many people love it.
I have (2) .40 S&W caliber guns in my EDC rotation. A Sig Sauer P-229 and a SD40VE in my night stand.
I love the round period.
Air Assault!🇵🇷
My buddies all shoot 9mm stating faster follow up shots. They practice with 115 grain target loads and carry 124 grain +p.
I haven't asked them how their follow up shots are with the +p ammo......I imagine they shoot very little carry ammo.
I have shot thousands and thousands of rounds of various caliber. Practice daily and weekly dry fire and mag changes. Live ammo teaches you to handle recoil but dry fire practice teaches you to handle your gun as second nature....cause it's free.
I have a hkp2000sk in .40. I shoot 2-3 times a year. I shoot it better than the Glock 27 and my Kimber Micro 9- 9mm. I like the LEM trigger and the mag release. I have accidentally dropped mag on Glock 27… The grip fits hand nice plus I have larger magazines with the xgrips which offers 3 more rounds and a full grip purchase. The reliability is great and take down simple. Happy camper here…
When the first 9mm ammo crunch happened, I sold my 9mm and purchased a full size 40s&w
and never looked back, it loves 165gr bullets and it shoots........ thanks for the input !!
As a long time firearms instructor i could not agree more. I carry a Ruger sp-101 revolver because its the easiest gun to shoot for me. with +p .38 special ammo I can make every shot count. Your spot on with your advise. The best gun for anyone is the one you can place shots with. Thanks for a great Video.
I was a LEO with the DOD, and we went from 9mm Beretta DAO with like a 35lbs trigger pull (LOL). Then we went with an S&W M&P .40, I liked it so much I purchased one for myself. I now reside in Wyoming, so I am going with an H&K P30 L and a USP 45, so I can shoot .45 Super. I my also go with an FNX 45, with the 460 Roland conversion, which I will wear in a chest rig.
My wife got a G23 back in 1993 and she is still carrying it. replaced barrel back in 2015
Gen 5 has less recoil
I've carried a Glock 32c in 357Sig for about 10 years, I love it! I go between 40 & 357Sig every so often. I reload and live very close to a range.
I LOVE my .40 s&w Shield, it’s the ideal back up gun and I usually only pop 50rds or less when I’m out plinking so the ammo cost for target ammo doesn’t hurt and the Speer gold dots I’ve found for less than 9mm. Having it in conjunction with my full sized Glock 34 is my perfect pistol pair for me because I love shooting lots of rounds with the 34 and getting a little more blast and recoil with shield in .40 s&w, the really getting the my finger and arms fatigued by cracking through a brick of .22 with the Browning Buck mark.
Maybe there's a Glock 35 in your future...
Also, the CCI snake shot in .40 s&w uses a different case design than the 9mm, which I think makes it much more reliable.
I got my XD 9102 in .40 only because it was my first gun, and I had to grab a gun quickly before going to an indoor range with my cousin. I was new to the gun world and it was my first time visiting a gun store and gun range. The salesman was very knowledgeable and suggested an XD instead of a Hi point. There were no 9mms in the XD line anywhere and my cousin wanted to get to the range. After calling around we decided that a .40 XD was more than adequate. I made a good choice and I still have that gun which is my home defense tool. I then went to a shot show and shot several Glocks in various calibers. My XD felt a lot better and still has minimal felt recoil even compare to the 9mm Glocks. I later purchased a Shield also in .40 a few years ago and that was supposed to be my EDC, but it eventually will be my conceal carry gun. I did research on the .40 because there were suggestions that a 9mm was better. Not true. I read several anecdotal stories about trauma surgeons who wrote about their experiences with gunshot victims. Quite a few wrote about the .40’s lethality compared to the 9mm. More survived 9mm gunshots but most didn’t survive any .40 gunshots. Finally, I read about the .40’s greater energy compared to the 9mm. Estimates are 13% to 15%. I’ll take those advantages especially after having faced 4 ghetto ex-cons who tried to do a home invasion while my handicapped, elderly mother and I were home. They were bigger and stronger than the average person. If it wasn’t for the need for capacity, I’d have gotten a 686 Smith & Wesson revolver using .357 loads. That was the smoothest and most pleasurable gun I’ve ever shot. The .357 round barely had any recoil, felt and actual recoil.
My first pistol was an XD40 as well and I still own it like you, it's doing house duty. Recently bought a S&W 40c that I like a lot as a carry piece.
@@JasonON I'm hearing a lot of good things about the .40 S&W compact. A popular gun UA-camr said its her favorite gun and she tests and owns all kinds. Her explanation was very impressive to the point where I'll either get it or the Rolls Royce of guns, the CZ.
Thanks for a great video on the .40 S&W cartridge. I selected the S&W M&P .40C for personal use. This pistol came with 2 size grips. I have large hands and the large grip is a good fit to my hand. My little finger just naturally folds beneath the bottom of the grip when I draw it. This is comfortable in my hand when I fire it, including rapid follow-up shots. I prefer Winchister PDX 1 or Speer Gold Dot. both in 165 JHP.
I have a G27 and I put on Pearson Magazine Grip Extension. It works great for me. I did not like having my pinky not grabbing the gun. The other thing when capacity is brought up, I have 13 and 15 round magazine as a back up. I think, as a civilian that should be enough.
I have a Glock 19 in 9mm and Glock 23 in .40 cal. Absolutely love the .40 and it’s the most fun to shoot. I’m very accurate with it but then again I do go to the range almost each week
There is not a single soul on the planet that can make me believe that 40 S&W is a bad choice. I have seen it work and work VERY well.
... I agree with what you said, the 40 isn't "dead" just that it's popularity is waning. Remember that the 10mm was considered a "dead" round back in the late 90's, but just look at it now ..
I moved to the .40"S&W-180gr JHP in 1990 and never looked back, to this day. In fact at first my "dream pistol" was Col. Cooper's GP35 in .40"G&A... but that was a wildcat, pistol AND round, that no one ever made ammo for in any numbers to matter. So for EDC I kept going from and to, a Combat Commander (my load of choice at the time been the 185gr JHP .45"ACP at around 1,000fps) and a FN-HP/GP35 or a HK-P7M11, without really been truly satisfied by none of the above.
To make a really long story short (because at first I really hated the Combat Tupperware... ugly son of a gun, plastic sights and horrible trigger!!!), in 1990 Glock introduced it's G23gen2 and... I just fell head over heels on the concept of the 13,15 and even later 22 180gr .40" rounds at around 1,000fps in a comparable package to my Combat Commander! So, to say that I became a G23/.40" fanboy is probably a huge understatement.
By the way my wife, who's really petite, "liberated" a G27 from the safe as her EDC around the turn of the century?... She's 1.5m tall and weights 43kg in her jeans and boots, and none of us is in prime shape anymore, but she shoots her G27 LIKE A BOSS! So my advise to the people who find the .40"S&W "too hot to handle", it's just a matter of technique really. Not strength, technique and working at it a little. Shooting is a perishable skill anyway, so you have to keep at it if you want to stay sharp... and we love to shoot our .40"s. :>0
My first handgun was a 40. That was 30 years ago. I haven’t shot it in 25 years but just recently pulled it out and cleaned it. I intend to start practicing with it again. I also intent to get a 9mm which may become my primary as recoil is less. I will not, however, part with the 40. It has some sentimental value to me and frankly it’s a wonderful weapon.
Very well explained from experience and understanding!!!
Thank you, sir!
My Kahr Arms CW40 I carried for a long time concealed. It's got a 3.6" barrel and it's chambered in .40 S&W. It holds 7 rds plus 1 in the chamber. I later purchased a Sig P226 that I turned into my edc piece and it is also chambered in .40 S&W and I can tell you that it shoots plenty straight. It's harder to conceal as it's got a 4.5" barrel and it's got a 12 rd. mag capacity with 1 in the chamber. I'm used to shooting a 1911 .45acp that I really like so shooting the .40 cals are not unpleasant to shoot and the recoil isn't bad at all.
The first firearm that I ever bought was a smith 40 semi. I bought it, let's just say 20 years ago and I still have it. I just bought myself a smith m&p m2.0 in 40 caliber. I figured. I already have two 9mm. So, why not get another 40. If I can ever find a good holster for it. I will start carrying it. Thanks for the info.
I have Both HK P-30V3 and P-30V1 Lem both are .40 I always Love them both even that the trigger not the best in the world but I adapt to it I carry it concealed wherever I go
I carry a Glock 27 but on my nightstand I have a S&W model 13 - 357 magnum 😯
The history of the .40 S&W has it's origins with the .41 Magnum S&W revolver. It never gained the popularity with LEO who it was designed for but the frame is simply too heavy to be a practical everyday carry.
But it's advance is 20% less recoil than the .44 S&W Magnum and stopping power greater than the .357 Magnum that was currently in use at the time.
I regularly carry either a p229 or a p239 in 40. I also have 357 sig barrels for both. both are easy to shoot accurately for me. the recoil doesn't bother me at all.
I don't listen to negativity about the 40 S&W, it's been my primary carry caliber since 2005. And my weapon of choice is the XD40 Service. After my first XD40 was stolen, I bought a Kahr CT40 as it's replacement. Bad choice- I liked everything about It, but could not get used to the Trigger. Sold it and went back to the XD40 Service. Go with what you know. Great video!
I purchased a Glock 22 Gen4 3 weeks ago, a law enforcement trade in and I love it. I was told by people at the gun range where I'm a member is "the 40 has a lot of snap". Well, so does my Glock 20 Gen4, the Walther PPQ .45 and the CZ P10F in .45. I make sure that the grip is comportable and I do exercises to strengthen my fingers, hands, wrists, forearms, etc in order to be able to manage the recoil. At 10 yards, I had a good tight shot group to the head area, but need to work on recoil anticipation. I even got some complements from other shooters on my accuracy. I'm looking for another .40, hopefully will find another one during the holiday season.
Started off with my service Glock 23 then went with the Px4 Storm 40 Full size and it’s my main EDC and I love it.
I got rid of my G23 even though it shot good groups, but I got tired of Glock knuckle from the poor undercut on the trigger guard. I've never had that issue with my EDC PPQ M2 in .40 and it shoots tighter groups (probably due to the better trigger).
Also, I love hearing 9mm proponents talk about the advancements made in the 9mm round... it's still 9mm, not a .40. To get similar power you have to go to the 9mm+P or +P+.
Cheap Winchester white box or Remington golden saber 40sw is a fraction of the price of those +p+ 9mm ammo and has better ballistics too.
I have 40 MP compact performance center. Many thousand rounds thru it. Shoots well is an extension of your hand and no stress aiming and remaining on target. Sometimes no aim needed, look and shoot.
I’m a smaller person. I conceal carry a swf40. Took me a while to be able to control it but I’m getting use to it.
The g27 is a great gun. My groups are amazing with it and used it for my conceal carry class
I carry a Glock 32, 357 sig. I also have a 40 smith and Wesson barrel for it and swap it out on occasion. Both calibers and excellent, have zip. The 40 is a little more snappy than then357 sig, but I like them both! Ten years now as my EDC.
My first time watching your video. I absolutely loved everything you said. Looking forward to watching more. I’ve had a AMT 1011 40 that I’ve been carrying but recently traded another gun on a Walther PPS 40 & after few mags at the range I’m in love.
The Glock 27 with a 1" longer screwtip barrel I think adds power and accuracy and still very concealable
40 SW is the best all around IMO. I have several pistols from 380 (Ruger), 9 (SW/Glock), 40 (SW), 45 (Glock), 10 (SW/Glock.) Only one .40 so far, but it is my favorite of all of them. The .40 in the M&P 2.0 .40 4" Compact is my favorite of all of mine. I shoot it better than any other, and the impulse of it is ideal to my mechanics.
The M&P 2.0 40 4” is the gun I’m leaning towards. Also looking at the Glock 23 but I’m pretty set on the M&P. Only handgun experience I have is with the M9 when I was in the Marines. Grip felt too big for my smaller hands. Hoping I can maneuver and control the M&P.
@@martee4 You'll love the M&P...IMO, it's the best there is for the money when all things are considered. And with the 40, you're getting the most versatile one. Look into Apex Tactical. They've tons of stuff for M&Ps. I also own a few Glocks. I like them, the aftermarket support is nice, but M&P I much prefer to them if I'm honest. Cant go wrong either way though honestly.
Years ago I decided to get my CCW. Spent 2 hours trying to find a something I liked in a shield or "smaller" carry weapon. Nothing was right. I ended up getting a full size M&P in.40 and bigger shirts.
Really enjoyed this information I carry a 40SW everyday. I truly enjoy shooting it!!!
Thanks for your post. I have the FNX 40 pistol. It ships with a 10 round and14 round magazine. Recoil is the highest of any of my handguns including me .357 magnum. That said, the recoil is manageable. My local police department carries 40 S&W.