Ride along in the Mitsubishi MU-2 turboprop as I head up to the Kansas area for meetings, and return home into some heavy Thunderstorms. I thought I would use the trip to show the differences between ADSB weather and XM Weather for those that rely on that in the cockpit. Hopefully you will enjoy the ATC audio, in-cockpit takeoff and landing, and some fun time warp footage thanks to GoPro Timewarp. Thank you for enjoying aviation like I do. EDIT: THIS IS NOT A TUTORIAL ON HOW TO PENETRATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORM WITH ONLY ADSB OR XM WEATHER PRODUCTS. Not shown in the comparison was the use of on-board radar, that video did not turn out, so alas -but thankfully some experts were helpful in pointing this out for me.
I used to fly the MU-2 in 1989 , cancelled checks as cargo through the night on the East coast US. I miss her. If I had the money, I would absolutely get a MU-2 for personal use, such a great design that when maintained properly will last forever. Out of all planes I flew for the airlines this is still my fav. Thx for the vids.
Loved seeing how you worked around the storms - and very nice landing both times! I'm only a sim pilot enthusiast - but I tend to stay in turboprops as they are my favorite.
Honestly I think the sims are harder than the real thing, so you have me beat. Just yell if there is anything specific you would like to see or know about , will be filming the next few flights, and glad to capture what I can.
Great video and weather avoidance comparison. I’m in South Florida dodging and planning for deviations all the time in my Cirrus. I hope that you continue to film the 3 weather products simultaneously for comparison purposes. Thanks for the great job
I have a few trips coming up where I will be able to film, so mother nature will probably help out.. I was not super happy with all the video I got on this trip, so adding another camera, and will try to continue to document and learn with everyone as well. Thank you for watching. Have quite a few hours in the SR22, what a great platform!
Greetings from Australia, great flight and excellent presentation. It’s the beginning of the fun filled storm dodging season so lots of great flying coming up. Also have to say I’ve always thought the MU2 is a beautiful aircraft and the bad reputation that was given to it wasn’t justified. ✈️🇦🇺
Hey there! You are right on the old reputation - inexpensive high performance plane + low time multiengine pilots with no proper training.. Was a learning experience sadly. Should be posting some more stuff soon.
That was a fun ride a-long, thank you. I used to hate going up in monsoon season when I was over seas. Single inverter and nothing more then a VFR panel. That was back when I was young and dumb and dodging weather, 900+ meter high mountains and bullets. Make that emphasis on the 'dumb' part, lol.
HA! You might have noticed the "legacy" WX-10 stormscope in the panel, I was literally just talking about how we were basically all-weather capable back in the day with a WX10 & M1 Loran - yes, it is amazing how smart we were at that age..
What a fantastic airplane. Can you comment on cost of ownership in a very general way? Fuel burn per hr looked like 290lb/hr per side. How about maintenance inspections and recurrent airworthiness directives .
The age old question.. I plan to try and tackle this in a full video in the near future.. it will take a while to put it all together, as it is not as simple as piston planes in the inspection side of things.. but I will say this for now - in general - I allow $600/hr for all Fixed costs & Variable Costs ( Hanger, Insurance, training,maint, Nav data, etc ) and target ~ 100gal/hr for fuel burn. Both are a little bit on the high side, but you will not be surprised with those assumptions. Price of fuel obviously moves the needle alot. Super economical for a 10 seat aircraft..
..new subscriber here today ..just watching a really cool and calm pilot..with some really great..and very interesting.. commentary..and please.. keep em coming..
Thanks for subbing! I have several trips coming up, and will plan on recording most. Will try to get some better audio and video. Still learning the videos stuff. Look forward to having you watch from the right seat.
Thank you.. I am sure I will get the hang of it one of these days, but the list of what not to do again is much longer than things I thought worked ... LOL
Ha, small world and great airport.. hopefully I will learn to land on the centerline there one of these days.. :) Will be back out soon, so come by and say hello
I am very mostly considering purchasing at mu to Mitsubishi where did you take your flight simulation training and where is a good place to purchase a mu2.I used to fly King airs I know that the mu-2 is a whole different type of animal.
understand completely where you are coming from. One of the main reasons I started this channel was to provide better information. The market is tough as you already know for airframes - so controller, etc.. Flight training - there is Howell Enterprises, Simcom, and many individual instructors that are extremely qualified to get you your SFAR training. The majority of the training is done in your plane, and I find that much better than an old sim that has very little in common with your particular panel layout. I f you go to the About tab on my channel page here - there is a link for my email, if you send me an email, I can get you in contact with instructors, the new MU2 association, etc. Glad to share anything I can . Shameless plug, but there is another video on my channel I think you will like that talks about the performance, etc..
Tony - Did you mean 2.5degrees nose up? If you watch my video on "Is the Mitsubishi MU-2 turboprop Really that fast???" I talk a little bit about the attitude of the plane as it burns off fuel. In the beginning ( heavy ) my Marquise will fly slightly nose up , closer to 3.5 degrees, and as I burn off fuel the nose comes down to 2.5-2degrees. And you see about 10 knts in speed difference usually.
@@mu2b60marquise no, I actually meant that in level flight, your FPV in on the zero degree pitch line - yet the horion is about 2.5 degrees below the zero degree pitch line. That's an effect of earth curvature, the higher we fly, the more and more the horioN dips below the level line. (Can really notice with HUD)
Very nice video! Can you tell us something about the powersettings? Couldnt find the manuals online. You slightly pulled back the proplevers after takeoff but during cruise you were at 100% again, did I get that right?
The prop settings I was taught to use is 100.5% , so in that plane, you had to make a minor change to make sure they were matched, and then turn on prop sync.
Always a complicated question and answer.. but I try to assume - Fixed/Variable Costs ~ $600/hr , and with current fuel prices ~ $600/hr in fuel (thanks Brandon)
@@mu2b60marquise OK, glad you were not lost. 😄. Loved your video and picking through those storms was tense watching from here. Keep up the great work. Sorry for the thumbs down, I didn't think that through very hard. Take Care
Is there anywhere online to get connected with the MU-2 community? For example twin Cessnas have Facebook group, owners association, a magazine, and meetups. I read there was an MU-2 mailing list but that was from an article posted a decade ago when email mailing lists were still a thing.
Graham , the MU2 crowd is still pretty old school - the email list / forums are located at - mu-2aopa.com/ Also, there is a great MU2 Conference coming up in a few weeks - MAX RPMS events for September 23-24 2022 , in Cleveland, OH - there is still time to register if you are interested in that.
Once we get into fall , aka - no more ISA +20 temps.. I expect that will be closer.. it obviously varies, but I generally use that as a point in which I start to manage the power more so. Climb speed make a big difference as you know too.. I generally climb @ 160knts IAS
@@mu2b60marquise Agree, as a side note, for climb I set VS mode and 1,800 - 2000 fpm (depending on weight and OAT) until KIAS gets down to 150 and then set IAS mode.
@@mu2b60marquise I'm not aware of it. Doubtful though, I have a ton of business trips scheduled this fall and I need to spend SOME time at home and at the office 😁
The thunderstorm cells were well over 35,000ft+ Although the primary rain returns you could see were on ADSB & XM mostly from roughly 10,000ft to 20,000ft.
Have quite a few hours in the PC-12, and love the platform. Just hate that the hull cost has made them less favorable than a comparable King Air , and insurance companies are starting to name twin engine requirements on key man insurance policies.. go figure
A good video but not the audio. Your mic needs to be turned up. Back ground radio traffic over rides your mic. The MU-2 is a great aircraft & looks good doing it.
Ride along in the Mitsubishi MU-2 turboprop as I head up to the Kansas area for meetings, and return home into some heavy Thunderstorms. I thought I would use the trip to show the differences between ADSB weather and XM Weather for those that rely on that in the cockpit. Hopefully you will enjoy the ATC audio, in-cockpit takeoff and landing, and some fun time warp footage thanks to GoPro Timewarp. Thank you for enjoying aviation like I do.
EDIT: THIS IS NOT A TUTORIAL ON HOW TO PENETRATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORM WITH ONLY ADSB OR XM WEATHER PRODUCTS. Not shown in the comparison was the use of on-board radar, that video did not turn out, so alas -but thankfully some experts were helpful in pointing this out for me.
I used to fly the MU-2 in 1989 , cancelled checks as cargo through the night on the East coast US. I miss her. If I had the money, I would absolutely get a MU-2 for personal use, such a great design that when maintained properly will last forever. Out of all planes I flew for the airlines this is still my fav. Thx for the vids.
Those were the days... Have run into a few people on the ramp that have the same love and story. You fly the long body's or shorts?
New subscriber here. Nice to see to a current MU2 channel. I think it’s the most overlooked turboprop for speed, efficiency and price.
Thank you for the sub, working on some more trips now.. hopefully have them posted soon. Agreed on the plane being overlooked.
Loved seeing how you worked around the storms - and very nice landing both times! I'm only a sim pilot enthusiast - but I tend to stay in turboprops as they are my favorite.
Honestly I think the sims are harder than the real thing, so you have me beat. Just yell if there is anything specific you would like to see or know about , will be filming the next few flights, and glad to capture what I can.
Great video and weather avoidance comparison. I’m in South Florida dodging and planning for deviations all the time in my Cirrus. I hope that you continue to film the 3 weather products simultaneously for comparison purposes. Thanks for the great job
I have a few trips coming up where I will be able to film, so mother nature will probably help out.. I was not super happy with all the video I got on this trip, so adding another camera, and will try to continue to document and learn with everyone as well. Thank you for watching. Have quite a few hours in the SR22, what a great platform!
@@mu2b60marquise Thanks for your prompt response. Looking forward to your posts. Happy flying
Greetings from Australia, great flight and excellent presentation. It’s the beginning of the fun filled storm dodging season so lots of great flying coming up. Also have to say I’ve always thought the MU2 is a beautiful aircraft and the bad reputation that was given to it wasn’t justified. ✈️🇦🇺
Hey there! You are right on the old reputation - inexpensive high performance plane + low time multiengine pilots with no proper training.. Was a learning experience sadly. Should be posting some more stuff soon.
That was a fun ride a-long, thank you. I used to hate going up in monsoon season when I was over seas. Single inverter and nothing more then a VFR panel. That was back when I was young and dumb and dodging weather, 900+ meter high mountains and bullets. Make that emphasis on the 'dumb' part, lol.
HA! You might have noticed the "legacy" WX-10 stormscope in the panel, I was literally just talking about how we were basically all-weather capable back in the day with a WX10 & M1 Loran - yes, it is amazing how smart we were at that age..
What a fantastic airplane. Can you comment on cost of ownership in a very general way? Fuel burn per hr looked like 290lb/hr per side. How about maintenance inspections and recurrent airworthiness directives .
The age old question.. I plan to try and tackle this in a full video in the near future.. it will take a while to put it all together, as it is not as simple as piston planes in the inspection side of things.. but I will say this for now - in general - I allow $600/hr for all Fixed costs & Variable Costs ( Hanger, Insurance, training,maint, Nav data, etc ) and target ~ 100gal/hr for fuel burn. Both are a little bit on the high side, but you will not be surprised with those assumptions. Price of fuel obviously moves the needle alot. Super economical for a 10 seat aircraft..
..new subscriber here today ..just watching a really cool and calm pilot..with some really great..and very interesting.. commentary..and please.. keep em coming..
Thanks for subbing! I have several trips coming up, and will plan on recording most. Will try to get some better audio and video. Still learning the videos stuff. Look forward to having you watch from the right seat.
Another great video! The effort you're putting into the production quality is showing through.
Thank you.. I am sure I will get the hang of it one of these days, but the list of what not to do again is much longer than things I thought worked ... LOL
Great work with all the cameras. Looking forward to more.
Hi I am not a pilot just an aviation enthusiast First time to your channel Premiere1driver use to fly the MU2 and speaks highly of it.
Safe travels.
Thank you for stopping bye hope your subscribe and look forward to posting some more videos in the very near future as well
Wow! Felt like I was right seat - right up there w/Greg Mink and drklain!
Thank you , that is high praise. Still trying to figure out the whole video stuff.. so hopefully will get better at it.
Thanks!
Thanks !
Great video, LXT is my home base.
Ha, small world and great airport.. hopefully I will learn to land on the centerline there one of these days.. :) Will be back out soon, so come by and say hello
I am very mostly considering purchasing at mu to Mitsubishi where did you take your flight simulation training and where is a good place to purchase a mu2.I used to fly King airs I know that the mu-2 is a whole different type of animal.
understand completely where you are coming from. One of the main reasons I started this channel was to provide better information. The market is tough as you already know for airframes - so controller, etc.. Flight training - there is Howell Enterprises, Simcom, and many individual instructors that are extremely qualified to get you your SFAR training. The majority of the training is done in your plane, and I find that much better than an old sim that has very little in common with your particular panel layout. I f you go to the About tab on my channel page here - there is a link for my email, if you send me an email, I can get you in contact with instructors, the new MU2 association, etc.
Glad to share anything I can . Shameless plug, but there is another video on my channel I think you will like that talks about the performance, etc..
What tilt setting were you using on the weather radar? How big is your antenna?
Going from memory, but normally I am using down 2 degrees for most of the weather dead ahead - it is a 12" dish
Do you know why on your garmin attitude indicator the horizon is depicted 2.5 degrees below the level line in cruise flight?
Tony - Did you mean 2.5degrees nose up? If you watch my video on "Is the Mitsubishi MU-2 turboprop Really that fast???" I talk a little bit about the attitude of the plane as it burns off fuel.
In the beginning ( heavy ) my Marquise will fly slightly nose up , closer to 3.5 degrees, and as I burn off fuel the nose comes down to 2.5-2degrees. And you see about 10 knts in speed difference usually.
@@mu2b60marquise no, I actually meant that in level flight, your FPV in on the zero degree pitch line - yet the horion is about 2.5 degrees below the zero degree pitch line.
That's an effect of earth curvature, the higher we fly, the more and more the horioN dips below the level line. (Can really notice with HUD)
Very nice video! Can you tell us something about the powersettings? Couldnt find the manuals online. You slightly pulled back the proplevers after takeoff but during cruise you were at 100% again, did I get that right?
The prop settings I was taught to use is 100.5% , so in that plane, you had to make a minor change to make sure they were matched, and then turn on prop sync.
How much per hour cost would you estimate on this plane in Sept. 22? Thanks in advance.
Always a complicated question and answer.. but I try to assume - Fixed/Variable Costs ~ $600/hr , and with current fuel prices ~ $600/hr in fuel (thanks Brandon)
@@mu2b60marquise Thanks Sir!
Great video!
Thank you
I have to question the title of your video. You flew to Lee's Summit, Missouri and back. Where does the Kansas fit into that trip?
Touche' - Meetings were in "Kansas City" area, but easier to fly into Lee Summit..
@@mu2b60marquise OK, glad you were not lost. 😄. Loved your video and picking through those storms was tense watching from here. Keep up the great work. Sorry for the thumbs down, I didn't think that through very hard. Take Care
It is ok, you can not post online and not get bashed for something these days.. lol.. will work on a title change when I get back :)
Is there anywhere online to get connected with the MU-2 community? For example twin Cessnas have Facebook group, owners association, a magazine, and meetups. I read there was an MU-2 mailing list but that was from an article posted a decade ago when email mailing lists were still a thing.
Graham , the MU2 crowd is still pretty old school - the email list / forums are located at - mu-2aopa.com/
Also, there is a great MU2 Conference coming up in a few weeks - MAX RPMS events for September 23-24 2022 , in Cleveland, OH - there is still time to register if you are interested in that.
I usually see that crossover point at more like 15,000.
Once we get into fall , aka - no more ISA +20 temps.. I expect that will be closer.. it obviously varies, but I generally use that as a point in which I start to manage the power more so. Climb speed make a big difference as you know too.. I generally climb @ 160knts IAS
@@mu2b60marquise Agree, as a side note, for climb I set VS mode and 1,800 - 2000 fpm (depending on weight and OAT) until KIAS gets down to 150 and then set IAS mode.
I will have to try that technique… any chance you are going to MAX RPM in Ohio in a few weeks?
@@mu2b60marquise I'm not aware of it. Doubtful though, I have a ton of business trips scheduled this fall and I need to spend SOME time at home and at the office 😁
@@TIO540S1 Understand completely! If you change your mind - MAX RPMS event for September 23-24, 2022 - Cleveland, OH.. Will be great stuff.
Good watch mate, what was the tops of the weather?
The thunderstorm cells were well over 35,000ft+ Although the primary rain returns you could see were on ADSB & XM mostly from roughly 10,000ft to 20,000ft.
@@mu2b60marquise good stuff I often find myself in similar situations in the pc12 but we are limited to fl300 and the radar isn't the best!
Have quite a few hours in the PC-12, and love the platform. Just hate that the hull cost has made them less favorable than a comparable King Air , and insurance companies are starting to name twin engine requirements on key man insurance policies.. go figure
@@mu2b60marquise wow yeah luckily I don't have to worry about that in Australia! The company worries about that.
wow! that was dangerous..
not really, with good planning and tools.
Any reason you don’t set the props to 98% in cruise?
Just how I was taught to be honest.
A good video but not the audio. Your mic needs to be turned up. Back ground radio traffic over rides your mic. The MU-2 is a great aircraft & looks good doing it.
It is a learning process for sure.. over time, hopefully I will get it figured out.. Flying is easier..
Your audio gets very low, makes it difficult to hear what you are saying most of the time.
Thank you for the feedback, will work on that and future videos
Greetings is the aircraft avilable for charter?
Hi Tracey, sorry no this aircraft is not on a 135 charter certificate. I use it primarily for my business travel and the occasional personal trip.
Thanks. The Mu2 was a masterful design. Unfortunately, it didn't make it into mainstream aviation. Love the upgrades. www.lebas.com
I don’t like the fact that the aircraft flex so much, a major problem for me as an owner.
Richie rich!
great video!