The knurling on the bezel on the pre-ceramic Subs makes the watch. I remember seeing this cool African American guy at a cafe here in Bondi. He was actually the waiter and his watch looked awesome and I asked him, what year model it was and he said, 'I don't know man, the last of the real ones.'
Great choice! I have the same 14060M but mine is the two liner. I have the black Zealande rubber strap for it! Great for summer! Wear it in good health. Love your channel. Thanks for sharing your journey!
I have that exact 14060m 2012 no date. Would never settle for another Sub as it fits my 6.5inch wrist perfectly. I’ve come to appreciate the hollow end link bracelet - it’s light weight and flexibility allows superb adaptability and comfort on the wrist.
My entry into subs was the new 41mm. I’ve since been able to handle the previous gen ceramic 40, as well as pre ceramic. Clasp doesn’t bother me a bit and I’d much rather own the 41 than any of the pre ceramics which feel much less solid in the hand. But I’m in and out of the water with mine quite a bit, so feeling solid and having confidence in the product holding up in demanding environments is a big part of my enjoyment of the sub. If I wasn’t knocking it around in the water, I’m not sure I’d even own a sub. Just go right to gmt / Bluesy / etc
I'm with you 100%. 5 digits over 6 digits any day of the week. The 4 lines 14060M is my Dad's watch, that he wears pretty much all the time. Me, my favorite model is the polar 16570, a model I don't think I'll ever let go off. Supremely comfortable and very understated.
Hello Mike Definitely the five digit is more comfortable then six digit, I have both of them, they have their own special personalities . And as years go by I appreciate five digit more and more Good to see you back making more videos
The 116710LN seems right up your alley. Most useful complications. Triple lock, nearly a diver. Lovely clasp, albeit blingy with the pcl. Dual colored ceramic looks… a bit odd to my eye, so the black is great. Iconic yet understated.
Great looking watch. Recently traded my 16610 in for a 116610 so I'm going the other way. I will say the 5 digits are the most comfortable...no need for the glide lock. I also have a 41 and I agree that the entire bracelet is too wide. Also just picked up a batgirl and that's my favorite of the bunch...not as in your face as the pepsi with its colors and comfortable as heck with the jubilee. Always enjoy your vids. Thanks for the great content.
Great watch sir. They look great on NATO straps as well. I agree about the aluminum bezel--there's a certain way the black color shows on it that makes it appealing. The lug holes are so practical.
Not sure how much things have changed since this video, but when I was ready to move on a new Sub No Date, I called my AD and got one the next week (as in a week ago) 🤷🏽♂️ love it!
For me, my mood changes. I pretty much wear a different watch each day. Within my Rolex collection I have vintage, neo-vintage, and modern pieces. I like that. I just mix it up then as my mood changes. I do think that the fit of the 5 digits on my wrist (7.25") is probably the best. Overall though the 124060 41mm Sub is by far my favorite - on an Everest strap.
Great video, Michael. If you like the size of the markers on a six digit, but not the ceramic bezel, you should try the new Explorer II - maxi markers with a steel bezel. The black one doesn’t look as big as the white dial. That’s the one I would recommend. It’s my daily. The clasp is not as big as the Sub’s - the only GMT watch with a complete brushed bracelet
Hi, so after watching this video ref the 14060m (great watch).. how does it compare to the 16600 SD from your previous video and which do you prefer? I'm asking because I have the 16600 and wonder which is better (all rounder) if you could only have one!
I'm moving away from my SD43, i'd never thought i'd say that. Got a wide wrist, but it's too tall and has a circular saw on top of it. So, i'm going for a six digit 12 sub. Still big enough. Pre ceramic isn't my thing because that's basically my pre-Bond Seamaster. But who knows, maybe i see that different one day, too...
Great video content. Looks great on your wrist. I remember maybe a year ago you mention you didn’t like the small dials. At the time I had a 16610 and my response was is more classic look. By the way the 50 anniversary Kermit has aluminum bezel and bigger dial. Love your comment on the 5 digit Rolex and love your analogy on a older BMW. I owned on the past a E39 and every time I see one I just wish I had one again. I think as your collection grows a 14060 is a perfect piece to be part of that collection. Currently I’m searching for a 14060M but two liner. I like the simple and clean dial. Take buddy. If you ever travel to Texas hit me up. Will love to have a beer with you and chat on watch journey.
I did the exact same thing, and bought back a 14060M random serial full set, for the same reasons as well. Unfortunately I’ve paid a lot more then you did Michael.😄 I still own 1 ceramic, a pepsi GMT, but I do wear it on a glidelock Sub bracelet, to take a part of the bling off, compared to the Jubilee it came on.
I have the kermit and hulk but the pre-ceramic definitely the more comfortable and better looking watch especially on my 6.5” wrist. I am now looking for a black steel bezel to spice up the kermit with the maxi dial and hands.
I think I’m having a similar watch journey to you! I much prefer the looks of the 5 digit references and find them way more comfortable. Modern watches with heavy, solid bracelets have put form over function comfort wise. Have you considered an older 5513 with matte dial for the bigger markers? I went for a BB58 to get that similar dial look but I’m not enjoying the lack of heritage; it seems almost soulless despite being very good looking. So I find myself reaching for the 16610 most of the time, wondering why I bother with other watches 🤷♂️
I have a 126610LV Submariner 41 and agree that the bracelet is too thick and the buckle is way too large. My watch of choice (which I own) is a 5513... you need to experience the 4 digit reference.
I haven’t had a chance to get my hands on the the 5 digit subs. It always seemed like the teeth on the bezel looked chunkier and more tooltastic than the teeth on my 114060? Always enjoy your insight in this crazy watch world. Cheers!
It is mate, and maybe a bit more. Actually some aficionados choose the 14060 as the last one to keep, after a long watch journey from four to six digit and back :)
The best thing about the 6 digits are the glidelock, but you can't beat a 5 digit, by far. IMO. After buying the 6 digit Sub, it feels way more special when I put the old 5 digit on..
About time you got a real Sub 😂 Do you still have the Turtle? I’m planning on taking mine to Greece and Africa next month after rewatching your old video.
The new 124270 explorer has all the charm of the older versions yet the benefits of the modern Rolex’s (I appreciate maybe too small for you) . 124060 is perfection but the heart yerns for the warmth of the aluminium bezel … argggggg !
I own the 14060 tritium. I also have a pre-ceramic Sea-Dweller & a pre-ceramic two tone Bluesy. I love all 3 of them. The jingly bracelet is so comfortable and lighter. The older Subs have more character. They get better with added scratches & battle scars because they were designed as tool watches. The ceramic versions are too hyped & expensive on the secondary market. They lack soul. New Subs are a fashion item. The only pre-ceramic Sub with maxi markers is the Kermit but that's very expensive. That's my grail sub. The cheaper alternative is the Black Bay 58.
Went tru full circle and back to 5 digit Sub. The Maxi dial just dont cut it for me,feels super clunky. The 14060 just oozes the neo vintage /modern look and its proportion on the wrist is just perfect!
Dear Michael, I have a dilemma! I am considering a trade for my 124060 for NOS 14060m with my surcharge. Although i thought for a long time that 124060 was the best sub, but i like 14060m more and more. What is your opinion on this trade? Thank you!
It’s a very personal choice mate. For me the new stuff is nice, but soulless. The new watches are also huge and feel like bangles. Best is for you to try the 5 digit. 👍🏼
I have also a 14060M (2-Liner from 2006) and I love it every day. The feeling on the wrist is unbeatable compared to newer Subs and it's for me shiny enough. From my older 5-digit Rolex watches I had the most compliments from the 14060M in the office. Unfortunately the 36 mm Datejust Whitegold fold under the radar. But at least, you wear a watch for your self.
Great video man. I’m waiting for a call for my no date 41mm but these are starting to get tempting. You should do a Sotc video. I liked the GP you had and now you have the Seamaster that I have and also love. Keep it up 🤙🏼
Couldn’t agree more about the sleazy waitlist approach of Rolex. It’s not based on chronology of registered interest at all, but rather nepotism/favouritism/extortion. Guys who buy unwanted jewelry, two-tone watches, and ladies pieces often get the call within days, while everyday customers without a “spend-history” wait years for nothing. Call the AD and they’ll tell you it’s an issue of supply. Offer to buy unwanted garbage and they’ll change their tune in a heartbeat. Rolex is a customer service nightmare and their AD’s are the dishonest foot soldiers of the brand.
The knurling on the bezel on the pre-ceramic Subs makes the watch. I remember seeing this cool African American guy at a cafe here in Bondi. He was actually the waiter and his watch looked awesome and I asked him, what year model it was and he said, 'I don't know man, the last of the real ones.'
The last of the real ones - I like that. Agreed with the knurling too
Wow this video is a vibe! Love the calm ambiance in this video. Congrats Michael! 🤜🤛
Great choice! I have the same 14060M but mine is the two liner. I have the black Zealande rubber strap for it! Great for summer! Wear it in good health. Love your channel. Thanks for sharing your journey!
I have that exact 14060m 2012 no date. Would never settle for another Sub as it fits my 6.5inch wrist perfectly. I’ve come to appreciate the hollow end link bracelet - it’s light weight and flexibility allows superb adaptability and comfort on the wrist.
I’ve updated the clasp on my pre-ceramic Seadweller with a submariner ceramic clasp. It’s perfect and balances the watch head wonderfully
My entry into subs was the new 41mm. I’ve since been able to handle the previous gen ceramic 40, as well as pre ceramic. Clasp doesn’t bother me a bit and I’d much rather own the 41 than any of the pre ceramics which feel much less solid in the hand. But I’m in and out of the water with mine quite a bit, so feeling solid and having confidence in the product holding up in demanding environments is a big part of my enjoyment of the sub. If I wasn’t knocking it around in the water, I’m not sure I’d even own a sub. Just go right to gmt / Bluesy / etc
I'm with you 100%. 5 digits over 6 digits any day of the week. The 4 lines 14060M is my Dad's watch, that he wears pretty much all the time. Me, my favorite model is the polar 16570, a model I don't think I'll ever let go off. Supremely comfortable and very understated.
Hello Mike Definitely the five digit is more comfortable then six digit, I have both of them, they have their own special personalities . And as years go by I appreciate five digit more and more Good to see you back making more videos
The 116710LN seems right up your alley. Most useful complications. Triple lock, nearly a diver. Lovely clasp, albeit blingy with the pcl. Dual colored ceramic looks… a bit odd to my eye, so the black is great. Iconic yet understated.
Thanks for the video! Helps a lot if you're struggling between 5/6 digits. I could wear both, however I can't get same warm vibes from the ceramic era
Great looking watch. Recently traded my 16610 in for a 116610 so I'm going the other way. I will say the 5 digits are the most comfortable...no need for the glide lock. I also have a 41 and I agree that the entire bracelet is too wide. Also just picked up a batgirl and that's my favorite of the bunch...not as in your face as the pepsi with its colors and comfortable as heck with the jubilee. Always enjoy your vids. Thanks for the great content.
thanks mate!
Great watch sir. They look great on NATO straps as well. I agree about the aluminum bezel--there's a certain way the black color shows on it that makes it appealing. The lug holes are so practical.
Not sure how much things have changed since this video, but when I was ready to move on a new Sub No Date, I called my AD and got one the next week (as in a week ago) 🤷🏽♂️ love it!
Looks great on the wrist. Congratulations.
Great video! I am down to only 1 watch now, the 124060 sub. It’s my favorite!
For me, my mood changes. I pretty much wear a different watch each day. Within my Rolex collection I have vintage, neo-vintage, and modern pieces. I like that. I just mix it up then as my mood changes. I do think that the fit of the 5 digits on my wrist (7.25") is probably the best. Overall though the 124060 41mm Sub is by far my favorite - on an Everest strap.
Great video, Michael. If you like the size of the markers on a six digit, but not the ceramic bezel, you should try the new Explorer II - maxi markers with a steel bezel. The black one doesn’t look as big as the white dial. That’s the one I would recommend. It’s my daily. The clasp is not as big as the Sub’s - the only GMT watch with a complete brushed bracelet
Hi, so after watching this video ref the 14060m (great watch).. how does it compare to the 16600 SD from your previous video and which do you prefer? I'm asking because I have the 16600 and wonder which is better (all rounder) if you could only have one!
Haven’t worn the 16600 but I think I prefer the quintessential 14060m
Best Sub of History
I'm moving away from my SD43, i'd never thought i'd say that. Got a wide wrist, but it's too tall and has a circular saw on top of it.
So, i'm going for a six digit 12 sub. Still big enough. Pre ceramic isn't my thing because that's basically my pre-Bond Seamaster.
But who knows, maybe i see that different one day, too...
Circular saw 😂😂 lol
Great video content. Looks great on your wrist. I remember maybe a year ago you mention you didn’t like the small dials. At the time I had a 16610 and my response was is more classic look. By the way the 50 anniversary Kermit has aluminum bezel and bigger dial. Love your comment on the 5 digit Rolex and love your analogy on a older BMW. I owned on the past a E39 and every time I see one I just wish I had one again. I think as your collection grows a 14060 is a perfect piece to be part of that collection. Currently I’m searching for a 14060M but two liner. I like the simple and clean dial.
Take buddy. If you ever travel to Texas hit me up. Will love to have a beer with you and chat on watch journey.
Thanks pal. Have a great day
I did the exact same thing, and bought back a 14060M random serial full set, for the same reasons as well. Unfortunately I’ve paid a lot more then you did Michael.😄
I still own 1 ceramic, a pepsi GMT, but I do wear it on a glidelock Sub bracelet, to take a part of the bling off, compared to the Jubilee it came on.
Nice !
Don't get rid of the SMP Michael! Best everyday watch!!
Hey Michael, just found your channel and I enjoy the content very much.
Quick one… what is your wrist size?
Thanks mate. It’s literally just over 7, so like 7 1/8
I have the kermit and hulk but the pre-ceramic definitely the more comfortable and better looking watch especially on my 6.5” wrist. I am now looking for a black steel bezel to spice up the kermit with the maxi dial and hands.
Congratulations 👏 definitely a good price......my BB58 fills my pre-ceramic void.... I've yet to experience a black ceramic Rolex.....114060
I think I’m having a similar watch journey to you! I much prefer the looks of the 5 digit references and find them way more comfortable. Modern watches with heavy, solid bracelets have put form over function comfort wise.
Have you considered an older 5513 with matte dial for the bigger markers? I went for a BB58 to get that similar dial look but I’m not enjoying the lack of heritage; it seems almost soulless despite being very good looking. So I find myself reaching for the 16610 most of the time, wondering why I bother with other watches 🤷♂️
Outstanding review. It’s the perfect Submariner. Cheers.
Just added the OP41 green dial to the collection from the AD after waiting 14 months.
BTW we have the same double sided coffee glasses
Best coffee glasses lol
I sold my 14060M when COVID hit, in a panic. Devastated - I need to buy it again. The new ceramic pieces just don’t feel the same on my wrist.
I have a 126610LV Submariner 41 and agree that the bracelet is too thick and the buckle is way too large. My watch of choice (which I own) is a 5513... you need to experience the 4 digit reference.
Hi Michael, does the 16 year old NOS 14060m need a service and a pressure test?
thank you!
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Might need seals changed. They are only rubber.
@@SteelmoonWatchestnx M!
I haven’t had a chance to get my hands on the the 5 digit subs. It always seemed like the teeth on the bezel looked chunkier and more tooltastic than the teeth on my 114060? Always enjoy your insight in this crazy watch world. Cheers!
Yes I really like the knurling on the bezel. Looks hard
It looks really just perfect on you, better than anything else I've see on your wirst. Probably the coolest do-it-all watch ever made!
It’s just a great watch mate
It is mate, and maybe a bit more. Actually some aficionados choose the 14060 as the last one to keep, after a long watch journey from four to six digit and back :)
The best thing about the 6 digits are the glidelock, but you can't beat a 5 digit, by far. IMO.
After buying the 6 digit Sub, it feels way more special when I put the old 5 digit on..
I’ve had my 16600 since 2002 and it still looks cool not bling just a good tool watch
About time you got a real Sub 😂 Do you still have the Turtle? I’m planning on taking mine to Greece and Africa next month after rewatching your old video.
Cheers lol. Yup Turtle still there buddy
The new 124270 explorer has all the charm of the older versions yet the benefits of the modern Rolex’s (I appreciate maybe too small for you) . 124060 is perfection but the heart yerns for the warmth of the aluminium bezel … argggggg !
Since I have a 19cm wrist (7,5”), I have his older brother the 39mm 214270
@@robertvanderpoel7721 nice 👍
I own the 14060 tritium. I also have a pre-ceramic Sea-Dweller & a pre-ceramic two tone Bluesy. I love all 3 of them. The jingly bracelet is so comfortable and lighter. The older Subs have more character. They get better with added scratches & battle scars because they were designed as tool watches. The ceramic versions are too hyped & expensive on the secondary market. They lack soul. New Subs are a fashion item. The only pre-ceramic Sub with maxi markers is the Kermit but that's very expensive. That's my grail sub. The cheaper alternative is the Black Bay 58.
Well put. Fashion bling on the new ones
The 14060M is a stunner. I’d love to see it rocked on leather. Can it be done? I think so.
Went tru full circle and back to 5 digit Sub. The Maxi dial just dont cut it for me,feels super clunky. The 14060 just oozes the neo vintage /modern look and its proportion on the wrist is just perfect!
You’ll like the new vid I’m posting
I handled the ceramic subs but still, 5 digit Rolex was the golden era. I will never sell my 16600
Really want one of these, wonder where the price will go to? Sounds like you got a great price tbh
Was choosing between this and a NOS version. NOS version was 2000dollars more. Thought it was pointless in the end to splurge on NOS
Wow great deal
You need a 5 dig Kermit best of both worlds, that would be my choice. Appreciate these discussion vids.
Dear Michael, I have a dilemma! I am considering a trade for my 124060 for NOS 14060m with my surcharge. Although i thought for a long time that 124060 was the best sub, but i like 14060m more and more. What is your opinion on this trade?
Thank you!
It’s a very personal choice mate. For me the new stuff is nice, but soulless. The new watches are also huge and feel like bangles. Best is for you to try the 5 digit. 👍🏼
I absolutely agree: soulless and too big!
you are one of the few youtubers who wears a watch correctly!
I have also a 14060M (2-Liner from 2006) and I love it every day. The feeling on the wrist is unbeatable compared to newer Subs and it's for me shiny enough. From my older 5-digit Rolex watches I had the most compliments from the 14060M in the office. Unfortunately the 36 mm Datejust Whitegold fold under the radar. But at least, you wear a watch for your self.
Great video man. I’m waiting for a call for my no date 41mm but these are starting to get tempting. You should do a Sotc video. I liked the GP you had and now you have the Seamaster that I have and also love. Keep it up 🤙🏼
Your downsizing to three watches leaves you with sub, seamaster and?
I wished the 12 digit series went back to these dimensions…
Most watches I see these days look so cumbersome on the wearer’s wrist.
Looks perfect on you very classy! Stick with it!!
Finally got a TT Daytona.
Journey's end...
That rattling tin can of a bracelet….eek…just can’t get there. Glad you got that one back though. Cheers!
Couldn’t agree more about the sleazy waitlist approach of Rolex.
It’s not based on chronology of registered interest at all, but rather nepotism/favouritism/extortion. Guys who buy unwanted jewelry, two-tone watches, and ladies pieces often get the call within days, while everyday customers without a “spend-history” wait years for nothing. Call the AD and they’ll tell you it’s an issue of supply. Offer to buy unwanted garbage and they’ll change their tune in a heartbeat. Rolex is a customer service nightmare and their AD’s are the dishonest foot soldiers of the brand.
Well put
Did you buy back the exact one you let get away?
Disregard! Answer is at 5:53
You’re long overdue Mike. I think that clinky 14060 has given you watch fatigue!
Lol. It’s all I’ve been wearing. I did record a vid a week back, but the microphone failed. Need to psych myself up again.
sorry but alum bezel just scratches too easy. Ceramic all the way.
6 digit is trash
I’ve just seen a few minutes of this video but I’ll bet most of us have a similar watch journey
Watch more 😂