Tekken 8 patch 1.05 tierlist - My first tekken 8 tierlist -
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- TimeStamps:
Jack-8 1:27
Jin 3:28
Jun 5:09
Kazuya 7:37
King 9:57
Lars 11:50
Law 13:20
Paul 14:30
Nina 15:35
Xiaoyu 16:58
Asuka 18:57
Leroy 19:50
Lili 20:47
Hwoarang 22:30
Claudio 23:36
Azucena 25:30
Raven 26:47
Dragunov 27:50
Kuma 29:42
Leo 31:08
Shaheen 32:04
Steve 33:38
Yoshimitsu 34:41
Feng 35:49
Panda 37:07
Alisa 37:20
Devil Jin 38:10
Lee 39:01
Zafina 39:32
Victor 40:26
Bryan 42:08
Reina 43:19
Eddy 44:24
Adjustments: 45:15
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*Timestamps:*
Jack-8 1:27
Jin 3:28
Jun 5:09
Kazuya 7:37
King 9:57
Lars 11:50
Law 13:20
Paul 14:30
Nina 15:35
Xiaoyu 16:58
Asuka 18:57
Leroy 19:50
Lili 20:47
Hwoarang 22:30
Claudio 23:36
Azucena 25:30
Raven 26:47
Dragunov 27:50
Kuma 29:42
Leo 31:08
Shaheen 32:04
Steve 33:38
Yoshimitsu 34:41
Feng 35:49
Panda 37:07
Alisa 37:20
Devil Jin 38:10
Lee 39:01
Zafina 39:32
Victor 40:26
Bryan 42:08
Reina 43:19
Eddy 44:24
Adjustments: 45:15
Can someone transcribe what Arslan said about Alisa? He spoke too fast / not in English for me to understand
Thanks
Legend
He said she's s tier, better than jinn, good sidestepping good back back, best movement in the game@@sleepyjoe4529
@@sleepyjoe4529turn on captions my homie
37:10
For people who can't understand Urdu Arslan said "Kuma is good in heat. But panda is useless. I don't even know why people even bother playing her. Just delete her from the game."
Translation mistakenly said Panda is good in heat.
P.S awesome video, detailed all the points/concerns I personally have with characters.
The subs work fine for me
this aint Urdu bhai please no information thanks
@@Fizzy_faizaan Point was that the translation guy made a mistake.
@@BullC6 Oh 😅
I didn't even have to speak it to understand it's obvious
Enable the English (United States) Captions in settings
Lies 😔
@@AT_BASEmaybe it’s still uploading? I can’t see them either but at least it’s a tier list but it sucks not english explanation
It says error goat may have to add in video
why did the english sub suddenly vanished 😢
Mans isn’t reading this cause he is busy beating up atif butt’s dragunov right this second. So many levels of irony
world champion in tekken but no show off, arslan is such a simple and down to earth guy
Facts
Now Tmmswe's Is Gonna Make A Reaction Video On Arslan's 1.05 Tier-List 😂😅
I hope because i can't understand shit here
@@Yulz553 Sad man.....
@@Yulz553can't even with cc, man
@@mnz8683nvm when I clicked they weren't on
It’s gonna be like 2 hours and 30 mins too
I noticed a pattern between this tier list and the Tekken 7 list. The number 1 character is the one Atif Butt uses (Akuma in T7, Dragonuv in T8). The number 2 character is the one Knee uses (Feng). And the number 3 or further down is the one Arslan uses (Kunimitsu in T7, Nina in T8) :D
😂😂wow
Even though this is the case, Dragunov really dominated the end of EVO (until Arslan).
@@michaelcarrig627 I like how you pasted this right after evo finals as if it somehow contradicts what I said lol
@@yomi_jeremy3964 I wasn't saying that it contradicted what you said and I am not sure where you get that from. You are describing a fact and I agreed with you. I was simply pointing out that Arslan's analysis seems apt. I am not trying to argue with you.
@@michaelcarrig627 my bad brotha. it's been a long night!
This is probably the best tier list I've seen so far for Tekken 8. Hard to dispute.
Leave it to Arslan to have some sharp and developed insight into the Game🤔👾
Damn. Long gone are the days of Azucena, DVJ and Jun, and even Reina, to a degree.
We're not playing same game as arslan ash. Azu and DVJ are nerfed hard but Jun and Reina are still the easiest characters in the game to mash out wins with.
@@southrodney super dumb opinion, bro. grow up
@@southrodneyi mean maybe jun is true to a degree but funny you said that when reina on the ranked stats is literally the bottom of win rate lmao clearly people cant mash the shit out of her to have "ez" win
@@southrodneyarslan litterally told you how to beat Jun: never duck. It's not that hard.
@@southrodney What is Jun mashing that you are having trouble with? Serious question.
Amazing list & thank you for the subtitles as well! Will be awesome to see how this affects player character choices seeing as EVO is next week. Going to be amazing!
The more Dragunov gets nerfed, the higher he seems to go up on people’s tierlist. It’s quite the phenomenon.
Problem is as he has got nerfed, so have all the other top 10 characters.....so he is still the best in the game. You'd need a patch where only he is touched to bring him back down and keep everyone else the same.
nah arslan just want his competitors nerfed thats why drag is up there, nina and alisa are so fucked rn and everybody places at least one of them at top3 but ofc he downplays them bec they are his main chars, the jodd alr said he thinks nina is the clear no1 and he is a nina specialist
@@h4b3e1n9b0Rndude he literally placed nina and alisa 3rd and 4th respectively and he stated in his x account that they are very strong and top tier.
@@mkbb91 funny u mentioned his insanely wild x comments, bec i remember one tweet specifically asking for certain stuff to be nerfed and nina was missing and he was asked why and he just said "nina is fine, blond bomb got nerfed recently no need for more" and thats case 101 donwplaying
i mean i get it, he makes money with it since he is a pro so he tries to have every adv going for him
@@DoctorManhattann then tell Arslan to play him if he is clearly the best character in the game. It should be a relatively easy win right?
Dragunov is so powerful he got two pages of nerfs since vanilla and still remains on top
top... 10 that is
Still weaker than T7 Day 1 Leroy 😅
I know people will laugh, but his legacy is way way bigger than babar azam. He single handed put Pakistan place in tekken world cup
True, babar azam is a fraud
I did not know Babar Azam had a legacy.
no one will laugh bro , Babar is a joke fr
I'm saying it from the 1 st tournament he won..
He is like
Jahangir khan
Imran khan
Level...
What has babar to do with tekken. You indians have no job other thn bringing babar into everything. Get a life man
Dragunov is so good he got his own tier.
Dragunov tier then there is S 😮
This is after a bunch of nerfs like wtf
@@markrio95Yeah its crazy, but that’s what happens when you give a character strengths and weaknesses for a reason, then you decide to buff his strengths, and give him tools that compensate for and thus completely eliminate said weakness. Drag has always been linear with bad lows so they gave him some of the best lows in the game and great tracking and homing buttons, better damage, better wall carry, oki and buffed his throw game and surprise surprise, dude excels at everything. AND he’s easy to play.
@@JohnGlow2 I don't agree, drags lows are still basically the same, his hatchet is not that good and still too dangerous. It's the fact that everything else is so good, that makes his lows seem good, you try to block one low at the wall, you are dead if you guess wrong.
@@DmadPsliar
you see that ive been saying almost this same thing before now. yoshi is ahead of king in the tier list. but i dont know why people just feel king is broken tier or S. this is the most accurate tier list ive seen so far! PERFECT.
Because they can’t break throws
It’s a huge difference now that u can sidestep his throws, I definitely felt it when i played against my ghost
@@GKillaGBAHAHAH😂😂😂 SO TRUE BROTHER
I still think Jin is stronger than feng
Ahhh thank you Arslan. When you mentioned Noctis being top tier in Tekken 7 it was music to my ears. Now you mentioned my main Victor being S tier is music again to my ears. Thank you for your expert view on this.
I never thought I would say this, but I agree with Arslan's stance on Lee this once.
Only Lee mains recognize the effort required to make him work. Without fundies and knowledge Lee just dies to everyone.
Only people who don’t play lee think he’s easy
@@hands-ongaming7180 i got lee to tg so far and all i did was mash b 3,3 1+2 hms and b4 plus knowing the game a lil. Hes also a side char, I really don't think he is hard
@@seanpowley3642nice way to downplay him since obv that’s not all u did to get him to Tekken God.
@@seanpowley3642 Rank is easy asf in this game. Can do that with any character since the player base is lower quality. I did it with dvj who is bottom tier
Really love the editing on this one. I don't play the game but i love following Tekken content from time to time, so it's great to see the moves spliced into the commentary
凄く的確。安定してくれば大会でこの上位キャラしか見なくなりそう。
I agree with your take on Jun. she really lose to players with really good defense. No contestable lows (only GEN1 which is only from stance but even then it’s sidesteppable), no i15 launcher, no good power crush, no move with good chip (she has, but at the cost of self damage), no real lockdown pressure. All you have to do is hold back and she cant do anything, her strings get repeatable for a while and very easy to adapt. She’s still fun to play tho.
The thing you said about Ling and Yoshi players is what other mains don't get. They come up with troll statements of downplaying us but do not understand that Yoshi, Ling and also us Lei Wulong players play a different Tekken than others. It's about mastering gimmicks and clownery and most importantly, stringing all those 200+ moves and stances together to make the character effective. I know 1while facing 10 Bryan or Mishima players, they are gonna almost use the same movesets but in case of Yoshi or Lei, every player plays him differently.
Agreed and now you are making me miss my boy Lei. No 3 Lei sets are the same. Sometimes you get crazy ideas mid game and execute them while remembering the frames/properties of those moves in case your opponent is clever enough to punish or read certain moves.
A clown's job isn't easy because all you do is tell jokes to make people laugh, it's hard because you have to make thousands to even millions of other people laugh despite their style of humor, background and personal feelings to certain subjects. (Replace jokes with stance transitions, laugh with mixups/mixedup. Replace people with opponent).
I miss Lei too, one of my faves from T3 😢
This is what they don’t get ling is a difficult character and hard to be direct with
90% of Yoshi players play the same though 🤔
Your analysis on Jun is 💯 spot on.
LEE Mains all rise We are no longer top 4 abusers!!
We’ve saying this the whole time 😅
He's still good, especially if opponent can't react to db3+4. Still has great punishment, poking and a homing move CH launcher that's neutral on block. Plus everything goes into hitman and still has great keepout and defensive tools. I'd place him in A. Only placement I strongly disagree with.
@@BullC6 except this is a list for tournament play it seems which in that case where everyone is on their game hes getting shit if this was a ranked tier list itd be different
cope harder
@wyzin5865 maybe. He's still good in tournaments imo. Need to give it time. Only issue is that the best Lee player right now is Super Akouma. No disrespect (he'd completely destroy me) but he couldn't even make top 8 with Akuma most times outside of EU. Now you can't say Akuma was shit because he couldn't do well in tourneys. Even then, the closes Super Akouma got to beating Arslan was Lee.
16:37 he said it and he did it he prove it his words in EVO GRAND FINALS
all the yoshi mains partying up tonight 🎉🎉🎉😂😂
We always party irrespective of the tier. We know the nerfs are coming, the guard break heat combo will be gone soon.
in my opinion he placed him too high, for me he is just above Bryan, he is strong but he shouldn't be nerfed too much as he is a very difficult character, the real potential today is managed by perhaps 2 or 3 players in the world, he hasn't it makes sense to nerf it too much, leaving out the guardbreak which is certainly too strong (the flash has always had it in tekken even in tekken 7 it was guaranteed combo and not guaranteed b22 and at any time and not just during heat)
@@solaswolfer1503 what rank are you?
The editing is really good. I appreciate this.
Great tier list, im glad that my main jin is S tier and loved to see that dragunov is above all😅 i acknowledge dragunov.
Raven never gets talked about enough. Definitely underrated. The best explanation for him being below a+ teir is from anakin. His backturn and soulzone are essential and too risky for high level play. You have to be a step ahead of your opponent to benefit from it as intended and thats difficult when youre trying to steal wins from better opponents. Also he doesnt have many moves that convert to A+teir damage. Thats it though. He has enough utility and mix to make up for the damage. THE MIX IS UNBLOCKABLE
He so hard to play with , risky gameplay but sometimes its worth it
@@kassimdomtoni500 high risk medium return. id be ok if they made him high risk high return.
Can defo feel the struggles with Jun as much as I didn't want to admit it 😅
When I switched to Steve, I was faring way better in fights.
But, I'll still be maining Jun lol.
Super W for the subtitles. Arslan keep being great 👍
Jun suffers the same problem she had on Tekken Tag 2, no freaking pressure to make them duck. If they only just give her more frame advantage with db3 on hit (her only good low) she can somewhat apply some pressure but alas, her chunky lows are from stances which are so reactable its crazy. She was OP at the beginning because of her damage output yes but after the nerfs on her heat ability and damage nerfs shes almost unusable in high level plays. So for people who struggles against Jun you have to remember two things: 1. Dont over pressure her because of her Can-cans and 2. stop ducking
As a Reina main, THANK YOU. Everyone else putting her in S tier meanwhile she has to work so so hard for her gameplan compared to the other actual S tiers. The manjigeri evasion nerf, ff2 nerf, and her having no good lows makes her extremely balanced and nowhere near S tier.
Yes! Literally i faced the same thing she is by no mean an S tier.
Womp womp
It's not like his list is an actual fact. This is still a subjective list.
@@1Piecerstill he address a very important points when it comes to Reina. Her gameplay is aggressive but her defensive option is so bad also, the other tier lists didn’t intensify enough how the nerfs hits her hard especially her low profile moves which was essential for her game plan. The list also highlighted characters that goes under the radar that are way to strong and way easier to manage like claudio and paul.
Ff2 spam is not working hard.
Very cool to hear your insight and opinion and thank you for the subtitles
Definitely the most accurate tier list so far!
Yup...even I only disagree with couple of placements.
I don't know honestly, seeing Zafina or raven above Lee and seeing him in the worst 3 of the game hurts my brain.
as well as seeing Yoshimitsu in the top 5 above King Jin Law for me he is right A+ above Bryan in my opinion top 10/13 in the game, they will nerf the unblockable for sure but apart from the one that is really broken he has the flash, but the flash l 'he always had even in T7 was even stronger since it was always 100% guaranteed combo already at 6 frames.
Jun B is probably the only one in the world who puts it that low.
the tiers are very objective in the end, they must all be respected especially if one of the top players in the world does it, but equally they are not the absolute truth because everyone also has their own way of approaching the characters both defensively and offensively.
Arslan is god of tekken but even gods are wrong sometimes. The dude is using mcafee web advisor yet no ad blocker lmao. Having Reina anywhere below S means he's thinking way too hard about this or not hard enough.
@@southrodney Reina in S is a meme originating from Bamco themselves since they need to push the new main villain. They made TMM insist she's strong and everyone else is just parroting instead of spending some time with the character.
No amount of cope can change the tournament performance and ranked win rate data
@@solaswolfer1503 that is exactly why you suck at tekken. You dont understand the game well enough.
When Arslan drops a tierlist it's like a gift from god and nobody can say shit
Why can't anyone say shit about it? It's his opinion same as other players whether pros or casuals
Calm down lol
This tierlist is obviously made for high level tekken, why would I even waste my time hearing casuals opinion? And btw, 99% of views in this video are pretty much casuals
So what? Even at pro there is difference calm down@@Trinax11
The glazing is insane 😂
Thats why Atif choose the Dragnove, he found his akuma power in Dragnove ❤
Dragunov ke qcf4 pe joh pushback hai usse move block hone ke baad neutral hi restore ho jata hai almost, delayed wr2 aur d2 ka khatra toh wahi same neutral mein jo rehta hai same waisa hi hota hai, aur khud qcf4 kitna linear hai.
b4,2 ke extensions ka counterplay simple hai.
Aur d2 -1 on hit hai, jab tak counter hit na lage tab tak koi follow up bhi safe nhi hai.
Thoda fairly dekhiye Dragunov ko bhaiya, kaafi strong character hai lekin utna bhi nhi jitna aap bata rahe ho.
so true
Finally someone understands. He just want to win tournament what's why make a propaganda of dragnuv
Great Video❤
I think u should start a series on how to play against all characters, character by character. That would be extremely knowledgable.
Watching your video from Japan 😊
im grateful for the CC
Hi Arslan, if you want to make your timestamps effective you have to add a first one 0:00.
Zafina needs to be reverted back to her Tekken 7 state. The issue was her movement but they took it upon themselves to nerf pretty much everything about her.
I like Shadows still playing Zafina,props to him
Very solid and comprehensive list, makes sense.
Yes, finally someone states that Hwoarang is in a horrible state. Now, if you get beat by a Hwo, don’t blame the “mashing”, and put some respect on the other player’s name!
i knew it as Dragunov main this charecter is soo good he can defeat all of 😎
Another evo for by boy. Thanks for making us proud Arslan And Keep representing our country❤
Pretty cool.you can obviously see that the top 8 is made of that S and A plus characters in next evo.
Tier list is personal preference imo.
12:39 “Main reasons for a character to be strong that it has good lows.”
This should be the core point of Tekken 8.
I been saying that for ages and people been calling me a scrub. People said Reina is S tier all this time but say she has the worst lows. Make it make sense.
Just a reminder that people were crying about devil Jin when he has no lows on his strings. And no d2 doesn’t count
@@zephune9506 Reina has a midscreen ff2 which if u respect then she has electrics which ur forced to respect, then she does whatever the fk she wants - running moves, hellsweeps. No one wants to respect her forever which is where she opens ppl up. Ppl still dont know how to play Reina it seems
@@etrigan966 ff2 is not even that great anymore. Trust me if you face someone who knows the match its very difficult as all lows are launched. She has no counter hit utility/launchers like kazuya. She has no safe mid launcher like kazuya. One of the most unsafe chars on the game
@@zephune9506 if ur opponent is not sidestepping randomly at range they’re not scared of it, simple delay and you’ll find out how stupid that move will literally carry neutral for a “mishima” especially is criminal
Eddy needs help, cant believe they dropped a DLC character in this state but its ok I guess. Eddy is my favorite character in Tekken. I will always play him.
At least someone honest about Xiaoyu ! She is difficult to win with, a main Xiaoyu must be dedicated to her and need to do more to have the same results as others. Even with all her 50/50 she is strong but not that strong.
The BT Heat Smash needs a nerf though.
@@BullC6 No need to nerf it… you just side walk to left and it won’t hit you.
@@PKMJyo Issue is when she hits you. Gets hypnotic mix on top of it.
@@BullC6her neutral game is terrible. She needs that 5050 mixup to have whatever little competitiveness she has.
How many more high class pro players we need that say that Hwoarang is not that good so people finally understand?
😂😂😂 Hwoarang mains just love spamming 4 and don’t know what to do when they feel the pressure😂😂😂😂
@@ThisIsEduardothen they don’t rematch 😂
@@ThisIsEduardo sorry I don't speak red rank
Very well explained and yes we would like a seperate detailed video for every character..
Oh okay. So it’s not just me having A LOT of problems ranking up as jun. Everyone considers her to be top tier, but other than damage I don’t think she has anything to threaten the opponent. If you know the match up (and everyone does by now) the character is pretty much unusable.
I oicked up Azucena because you had said she was broken at the start of the game lol, even though shes weak rn still love playing her
Thanks for the tips goat! 🙏🏼
Nice! Though I think the subtitles need some fixing with the format
Picked up DVJ today for the first time since T7 and oh my god he feels like a straight F tier in this game, EVERY tool has been nerfed into oblivion.
hi bro im ur big fan ,u r the best player in the world bro keep it up
Bhai love your gameplay Love from india😮
I'm still new to tekken and started with Reina and started trying to learn Jun. Seeing Jun rated so poorly is a little disappointing. But I'm a low rank so not everything he is saying applies to me. I'll just keep playing her because i find her fun.
Leroy ka main weakness yehi hain ki sab buffs are high. So if you duck and play a patient game, Leroy can be defeated easily. Plus he is highly side steppable. So putting him in A is a very good call.
my brother get a good mic lol 😂 Love you Arslan
Subtitles are awesome man, great video!!
my big surprises when seeing this tier:
-Jun is too low in my opinion, as is Reina 🤔
-Law is a beast, S for me
-Is Lee that bad? it's very fast and does a lot of great damage, it punishes on WS but it's probably too inconsistent for the extreme technique it requires to use it 100%, I see excellent players dropping its combos both due to the difficulty and due to hitbox cleaning problems, even he doesn't you can actually see it in tournaments but in my opinion it is really a cleaning problem at the character's programming level, it gives me this feeling that they have to clean the various situations well during his attacks. The recent nerf feels a lot but I didn't think it was even among the 3 worst in the game. Raven and Zafina stronger than Lee 💀💀💀
-King weaker than Yoshimitsu I don't agree I think King is A+ and Yoshi at Bryan's level, Yoshi doesn't have great punishments especially on WS except from 15f he's quite slow except obviously the flash makes up for it with his variety in handling situations with his moves but as we said at the beginning of the video Jin is in S because he has no flaws Yoshi has them and in fact we are not seeing them much in tournaments.
-Victor S despite the nerfs on him? I've never started playing too much with him because I don't like him at all. Too simple and he bores me straight away 😂
obviously these are my opinions, I certainly won't say that what I say is right, after all the video was made by one of the strongest players in the world, if not the strongest. Gg man
Lee dies to just turtling him. your mentality of pressing back is what is fundementally wrong.
@@Chaoblahippo sorry my english is bad, I didn't understand your comment haha
anyway Lee if you think about it it's true what I say that he has some programming problems sometimes he hits the wall sometimes not even during some coincident phases I find myself not hitting for who knows what reason, let's realize that before the last patch the heat didn't even come in after WS2,3...
@@solaswolfer1503 No ur english is fine brother dw.
Sorry if it came off aggressive but anti lee is very different from the rest of the cast. He kills you for any button press. But when he has to attack he is critically flawed if you mixup up sidestep duck and sidestep jab
Appreciate the subtitles Arslan! 💪
Adorable you explained every character with every scenario thank you Ash
I don't understand why we don't see Yoshi often . When he is Op..?
Brother i literally forgot i speak the same language as you. I'm so used to you speaking English in your interviews.
Damn true.
I m reading subtitles. Even though im urdu speaking 😂
Disappointed by his assessment on Lars, he was very weak in T7 but not in T8. He was also defeated by Lars in int'l tournament by Tekken Master as he mentioned.
I wanted to hear about my favorite character of Tekken, Asuka Kazama. Glad she isn't F tier 😅
The GOAT put Lee in B tier. So Lee is a difficult char and not very rewarding... The Bandai Namco balancing is truly bs...
Raven has it worse, He has so many hitbox glitches and other bs on top of already being risky as hell with little to no decent pressure tools or lows to even take advantage of the "aggressive" playstyle Namco is promoting for this game and the recent patch focused solely on giving him slightly better +frames attacks while BT and called it a day. fuck outta here scamco
This is a pro tier list. But IMO A+ and A tier are the same tier. Top1 and S are the same tier too. I mean S,A,B,C is enough for tekken 8 tier list because every character has a chance to place top 16.
thanks for making this mr ash, its pretty interesting.
Hi Arslan, do you think we'll ever see Lei Wulong in TEKKEN 8? I'm a main of him and I miss him a lot, in the meantime I congratulate you on winning the EVO, you're great!
People are gonna piss themselves crying Yoshi or Jin isn’t top 1. The fact that he sees Drag as top 1 even after the nerfs I think is a good sign for character balance if BAMCO starts buffing the lower half of the roster. I think Drag, Yoshi, Steve, Nina, and King are very complete characters that function well in the context of this tekken version.
Viktor is a crazy fun character. Glad he is S
This tier list goes against so many tier lists ☠️ interesting nonetheless
I love the Jun downplay so that she doesn't get nerfed, but she definitely is not borderline F tier. As a Jun main, I'd put her minimum A tier
He put her at B not F
@@Goobster56 Borderline F tier. He has her at F until the end of the video. Regardless I'm fine with the downplay
I think this tierlist is base on tournament performance and how often you see those characters in tournaments?
Dragunov is top 5 but not top 1 anymore, other than that great tier list.
What about your opinion bro❓ who's Top 1 character ❓
@@m.k9620 I have top 5, no top 1.
top 3: feng, alisa, nina (no order)
4-5: jin, yoshi (no order)
5-10: shaheen, king, bryan, drag, victor
So after watching evo.. what's your opinion about drag..
@@achabacha3328 the players who played him were good, that's it.
Even Kazuya made top 6 so is Kazuya top tier ?
idk if Jun is F tier but I surprisingly agree with basically all of this
the GOAT! PH loves you my man!
Evo winner !!!!!!!! Again !!!!!!!! And explaining some tekken too for us for free, good guy thanks thanks =D
Very valid tier list so glad someone doesn’t up play lee insanely he literally has nothing in heat
Jun F tier that’s reasonable like he says get good against the matchup 😂
I haven't played tekken 8 in awhile but goodness gracious what did they do to Jun for to be B tier lol?
Only her heat smash was OP. She has relatively weak lows. Most of them are in stances / strings with obvious "warning" moves just before or doesn't cause knockdown / launch / high damage unless they counter hits.
Df4,4 kaise react karte ho bro? Tips batao... How can I react to it
Glad to hear an actual expert’s tier list.
i honesly cant understand why people complain about jun; her pokes are basic and like arslan said, she lacks low moves
Seeing Yoshi at the top of a tier list feels so weird
Arsalan Bhai ek guide banane ka irada hai kya
Thank you for putting Hwoarang in B. All the complaints come from Red and Purple ranks. I am approaching Bushin now and it is so difficult to start an offense with Hwoarang because now you are facing good players with match up knowledge. So mashing is not gonna work.
I had to drop him at bushin, hes so bad unless you are a pro. Meanwhile everybody else gets carried
@@zephune9506ironic how you call other Carrie’s when you got there flowxhartinf with hwo 😂
@@hands-ongaming7180 it only looks like flowcharting from the outside, guarantee you wouldnt feel that way of you picked him yourself. Hwoarang players actually have to use their brain 24/7
@@hands-ongaming7180 another bit of evidence is that i basically never lose to another hwoarang but i lose to other characters that I mained
@@zephune9506 cope
Oracle from SPAIN Use jun in top 8 brackets of MIX-up 24 and he defeated his opponent with JUN
00:00 i can see one piece fan behind 🙌🏻
Jin And Arslan Ash so COOL 🐐🔥💪😎
Why pros put hwoarang so low is beyond me… same with lars…
Hwoarang is a killer online but not offline
As a lars main from tekken 7 he is probably strengthwise similar to where he was T7 so quite bad or atleast not as strong as other characters in T8 as there are a lot of really strong ones.
Reason being his mix up transitions into stance are all up until i want to say purple rank (am raijin myself) very much punished hard by hop kicks whilst in 10frame string into new stance. Terrible lows beside crouching 1+2 and the biggest problem is probably that all of his good moves that lead to a mix up which makes him "annoying" are in stances and stance transitions with lars are very punishable with mid keep out tools if you know the lars player is insanely braindead. The "only" good move for him is sen3 into mix up but thats only safe if you finish the stance into 2 anything else you can be jabbed or launched out of with hopkick when going for the 1 ender low.
So in upperranks you technically will be very punishable for playing him the way he would want you to play as for every move he is taking a lot of risks and against people that kniw the match up you can hope to win first set and then every other character beats him.
And he has pretty much no plus frame moves that are viable only one is sen3 but whilst standing 3 is not viable as it is insanely slow high kick that can be ducked or sidestepped so also very little pressure tools for a character that is supposed to pressure
Lars has no lows to pressure with and every transition to stance on block gets interrupted aside from DEN 3 which is extremely slow. The opponent can always just stay standing and block the mid or eat the mediocre low.
stop playing linear and learn what moves and when to step during hwoarangs offense and you’d see why pros put him on the lower half of the list
Arslan watching Joe Rogan 💪🏾 that jre reach is crazy
We might need an update to this list after Atif's Jack rocked him for a couple hours straight right after he made this
I always agree with your tier lists, they are legit!
Claudio finally getting respect
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