Actually no, he didn't talk about Lili that long. He talks about Devil Jin and all the other advanced characters, and then talks about Jack-8 and Dragunov as he forgot about them in the intermediate tier 😂.
thanks for this vid mainman :) this is gonna be my first tekken since playing tekken 3 when 10 years old - i had a stroke last year and wound up partially paralyzed, this is actually an incredibly useful video to get an idea of easier characters to main. your videos got me back into tekken and encouraged me to try it in spite of my physical disabilities, thank you for all you do for the tekken community!
@@monkeplaysgames7049 there was some permanent muscle loss - i can walk and use my arms and legs, but fingers is tricky. so tricky i went and bought a fight stick actually, controllers give me massive hand cramps unfortunately
@@anarchicnerd666That sucks to hear and I hope you're doing well, but don't let it stop you from doing things that you love! I hope (if possible) you get better man.
There's been a lot of "how to pick your main" videos for Tekken 8, but they've all been pretty boilerplate. As a newcomer, it's nice to have a video that goes over different characters and actually says something.
tekken is not an easy fighting games. TMM goes over them in 8 minute but trust me... That is only the basic and that is not the full potential of the character but TMM will give you the basic to build on... Learning the In depth of a character will take like 30 minuites to 1 hour of explaining depending on which character and the game is very new so there always something new coming up.
@@patrickimperial579 Am I though? Akuma was a top tier character (best in the game even), but he was definitely not functional at a lower skill level. Katarina was a high tier character, basically top 10 according to some folks; and she has zero skill expression.
@@patrickimperial579 Akuma was top tier (top 1 for a long time) but didn't function at lower skill levels bc lower skilled players couldn't pilot him. Fahkumram was broken at every level, even being banned from being played in a majority of Pakistan's tournaments. Anyone could take advantage of his countless built in mixups, insane mobility with small hitbox especially when sidestepping, and absurd range.
Great list. What I’ll say is if you love an advanced character, play them. That goes for every fighting game. Just accept it’s going to be slower to start winning and getting good. Best time to start was 10 years ago but that’s impossible next best time is now. The reality is you’re going to have to learn fundamentals whoever you play. I see people say to learn basics with one character and then switch but I personally believe this is wrong, play the character that’s going to make you keep playing the game, the one you like, the one that fits YOU. I know it’s not Tekken but I’ve seen so many Ryu players, playing like psychopaths because they should have picked an aggressive rushdown but were told he’s the beginner.
This is the truth, most people have no clue what they're doing in low-mid ranks so even if the character is super high in execution like Lee, Kazuya etc... you will win games by just doing some of their stronger basic moves or even if you execute slower than optimal difficult moves its not a big deal because most of the time it will land anyway.. Most games you lose will be because you lack fundamentals or got knowledge checked which is frustrating but that's how people learn
That's pretty generic bad advice. Learning the basics with a straightforward character is always better than trying to learn some advanced character who has completely different gameplay, which is also why a lot of people get stuck in lower ranks for years. They skip the basics and just get their ass beat by people who know the basics of the game. If you have fun, I guess you do you. Your advice isn't terrible and I'm not sitting on it, but it's just not good either.
@@Anonymous-gq7ho my point is you’ll learn better when you’re interested. You’re expecting new players to pick a character they find boring and grind out fundamentals. Sure this may be the “best way” but it’s also terrible for player retention. Fundamentally these games are meant to be fun, none of us are getting paid for it, why make it feel like homework? Also some hard characters are hard because they’re unique, learning Ryu will mean fuck all if you’re trying to play Dhalsim. He just moves and plays so differently. The opposite can be true as well, “harder characters” can be very fundamentals based like the mishimas for example, you have to get solid fundamentals, but if you pick an easier character, who may be easier because they allow you to win with less fundamentals, or even no fundamentals because they have several tool to skip neutral, guess what ? You aren’t learning good fundamentals, you’re just trying to win.
@@Anonymous-gq7ho From a rational perspective you are 1000% right however a lot of people get discouraged if they feel like they have to do x y z before they can start enjoying something and in the end its a game so unless someone plans to be really good it doesnt matter. Especially because as you said the majority of players are for fun gamers stuck in low ranks or not even playing ranked
For Reina, I feel like they struck gold with her design. If she truly is "I will mash you to death" while also being super complex, you have a character that can shine in all levels, newbies (me included) will be happy to pick her up, get some wins and when going gets tough they will have to naturally improve. I am ready to give my time to learn her moveset. If that fails, Asuka will be there for me I guess :D
I was going to pick lee as they just murd3red law's gameplay in this game but more and more I get interested on her. I also main kazuya, so maybe she'll be a middle ground for me. I think I'll enjoy maining her, let's see
I love how some characters have 3 sentences as their fighting style and then: Super Spy, Ancient Assassination Techniques (?), Law = Martial arts, as if he didn't have an estabilished one already. Very funky BIOs by the developers
People don't talk about it a lot but you're so right about King struggling with evasion. Some characters just go under his high hitboxes if you don't play really tight and force them to respect gou.
I remember the first time I played Tekken 3 on console at a friend's house over 20 years ago, when I finally had time to choose a characters without worrying about time limit, I saw Paul and thought he looked cool so I chose him, that was pretty much the beginning and end of my process of picking a main in Tekken.
I picked Jin, because I thought the fire on his pants looked cool and his roundhouse to triple spin kick was really good against the AI. Of course, when he completely changed styles in 4, I was devastated and confused.
seeing you on that bandai namco eu channel was amazing. i picked up tekken again after years of not playing because i found my old ps2 and when i searched for some guides you popped up. you made tekken feel accessible instead of it being so overwhelming. gg's
I haven't bought the game yet, but I was also an LC main... Is Azucena actually like LC? I'm unsure if I want to buy the game right now because looking at the roster I don't know if there's anyone on there atm that I'd actually want to play :(
As he should. Considering he's the protagonist and first to catch beginner's attention, it only makes sense for him to be an entry skill-level character
Unfortunately it's true...In terms of design, he looks the best in my opinion and also he's got plenty of new cool moves with the exception of some devil flips he's doing but he's so easy to play which really takes out the fun from the character for me.
Lee was my first and main in T7, off a vague memory of trying him after getting tired of playing King vs AI on my PSP while stuck in a hospital. I was still a super casual and bad player. I managed to get to Tekken God (potentially more if I didnt get so stressed playing ranked, lol) . It may be tough, but dont feel intimiated if a character is advanced, it's very rewarding. I had basically no competetive fighting game experience when I started, which means anyone can achieve the same if you want it
I main Lee too and I see everywhere that his slide got nerfed, but to me its a huge buff.. being full crouch +frames after hitting from the other side of the screen is really good.. b33 natural is good too.
The man, the myth and the legend!! So happy to see you as the official bandai namco's beginner guide mentor! Man I remember when I was watching your channel just to learn ewgf on Tekken 6 maybe like 12 or 13 years ago!! Great stuff as always
*me looking at the sections thinking to myself "I bet Leo (my char) is talked a out the least" *realizes I'm right *SWE says "I wonder how many people are even going to look at this section" *A single tear falls from my eye
He doesn’t downplay Nina. Everything he says about her is spot on. It’s only the cringy Nina fans who desperately want to convince everyone that she’s hard when all they really do is spam her unfair braindead strings anyway and don’t do the actually hard stuff
Lili is my second main so ill go with her for the time being but i might try other characters but once Anna is revealed as DLC im definitely maining her as i did since the begining in Tekken 1
it makes me sad Anna isn't in the main roster anymore too, she wasn't my main in any game b4 but i always loved doing the arcade mode with her and Nina and seeing their rivalry
This was definitely one of the best pick your main guides ive ever seen in a game. I just bought tekken 8 and it really helped me get a grasp on things! You earned my sub
Excited to get to play Tekken 8 tonight. I already plan on playing Reina, Leroy, Lee, maybe Claudio, I enjoyed playing him in the demo so actually getting a chance to train with him will be cool, zafina seems interesting, and so does Victor. I foresee big training montages in future.
I just had to stop the video to give appreciation to what SWE said in the intro. Picking a character that looks cool to you to start with is always the proper thing to do. I do it every new fighting game I get and think others should too because you'll have a lot more fun if you do. I just want to call out people that don't do this though. Everyone that hops on a new fighting game and immediately asks the question "who's good in this game?" or "where's the tier list" and picks their character based off of that I don't respect unless your aim is to go to National and International tournaments. You're not getting on the game to actually enjoy it and have fun at that point imho.
Rooflemonger among others makes vids that promotes that mentality but very few say pick who u like...as for people that want to pick based upon their strength, u can't really blame people for wanting their character that they like to also be good. Think of sf5 ryu until v-shift...
@@TheFightingGentleman Not knowledgeable about SFV but I am more so knowledgeable about 6 since I've got many hours in it. I get what you mean however my thing is people only looking for good characters and only playing them because they're like top 5 in a game. There's plenty of people I see play JP and Ken specifically cuz they're like top 3. I don't blame anyone for wanting the character they play to be good but all I'm saying is don't immediately go for that and only that cuz its lame in my opinion.
@@TheFightingGentleman Problem is, that usually, someone doesn't even know why their character is bad, if they even are lowtier. And that that doesn't matter if you're a good player pushing the character above the basics. That's why everyone always says tier lists only matter for the pro ranks/actual tourneys
@@ojay4923 i agree but this is the by-product of "patch culture"...the consumers are at fault for this coming to pass despite this being an industry like season passes...most people don't want to accept the fact that they are the reason why they are or aren't good. Top players have been tier whores for decades, but the end results are what's important
Yeah. Sometimes he just go like " this guy has too many cheap things bla bla. " how is it supposed to guide people on finding a character of their playstyle?
Jin (The main), Devil Jin, Lars, (maybe Leo too?) is probably the lineup but man I wanna play so many characters, Jun, Hworang, Asuka, Victor, Reina, Raven, Leroy, Kuma and maybe even Bryan and Yoshi everyone just looks so awesome to play it's insane, I'm not sleeping tomorrow. Jin has been and always will be that guy for me, obligated to main him, no matter his changes he's the character i will always main in tekken.
As a hwoarang main who knows how annoying he can be i genuinely appreciate your honesty on him, alot of people tend to dowplay the character due to his annoyance
TheSaltManSWE started calling characters "for monkeys" and "braindead" in his first Tekken 8 video. Can't wait for another 8 years of making the community toxic.
Amazing video. You sure know a lot. Thanks for sharing this information. I realized I pick my main based on design, playstyle and concept. Not so much on complexity.
I always played Eddy and Lee but decided with a new game it's time to learn a new character and finally (hopefully) git gud, so I'll be playing raven in T8 and spending a lot of time in training mode lol 😄
3:28 That’s a really good point. Tekken was always the outlier im that the main characters were always some of the most difficult ones, in other fighting games, the main character is useally quite simple, like Ryu in Street Fighter
I thought that we were going to see TMM talk positively about every character, including Xiaoyu for once LOL. Instead a 5 minute tirade about how people who play her don't really know Tekken and how the best part of her is seeing someone beat her. Well I guess we would never recommend her to people looking to pick their main anyway... considering you do have to be absolutely *monstrous* at Tekken to main her effectively. Those "flow charts" take monumental amounts of labbing and calm and composed execution, absolutely nothing is free about Xiaoyu. No abusable and brainless gimmicks like Jin d+2, Bryan QCB+1, Feng 3+4 in heat, etc.
I was hoping for an explanation about Leo. "Will anyone even go to this part of the video?" Yikes. I know they are an all-rounder, can you give literally anything else? Good info on other characters, it's just some characters definitely got better explanations than others. Can really tell where biases/experience is.
Yea, it’s like he still hasn’t grasp the concept of those characters. Some characters can simply oppress you with big plus on block moves and hard hitting 50-50s. Others don’t have that luxury and have to read their opponents while in the negative frames. Having an opponent “steal their turn” seems to trigger him if it’s not done with a basic sidestep lol. For some reason he keeps assuming everytime that happens, it’s because of a pre-planned flow chart 😂 How he omits Feng when he does the exact thing is also pretty funny, but I guess he’s masculine enough to get a pass
Are you the same The Main Man that wrote the Tekken Tag combo / guide in a magazine back in early 2000 ? If so, I just want to say I had a great time at the arcade back in high school so glad I found this channel after 20 years - time to get back to Tekken!
It’s that time of the decade boys. We choose our mains, stop what we’re doing to tune into Daddy TMM whenever he uploads, and enjoy some #goodassTekken🔥
Thanks main man. I was in a dark place finding a character. I used Zaffina and Xiaoyu and often felt something was not right. Im new to tekken and like you said, they are cheese characters ( i didnt know ) and i feel im not properly learning tekken with them. People in purple rank start to counter my cheese and i felt puzzled. I looked at your list to try and find myself a good fundamental character to restart my tekken journey in a healthy way and learn back from the start
Tekken 8 is bringing in a lot of new Tekken players, including me, havent played Tekken since T5 came out. Making Jin easier to use makes sense. He's catches the eyes of new players
I totally disagree with mainman, getting xiaoyu to work beyond the basics took many days. Interrupting xiaoyu is much easier than playing her and i never had difficulty beating her. Same with learning flowcharts, after you use a tactic two times, you need to switch it up. Its not that easy.
An aspect missing about Yoshi is his Freestyle Potential. Yeah we lab a lot of flowcharts, but the real magic happens when you just remember certain stance transition moves, a couple of ways of how to get into those moves, how to transition out without breaking the mix and then just going at it. When you get into that "flow", how the fck is the opponent supposed to guess what you are going to do next, if you are making it up as it happens. But you are at the risk of being launch punished for this a lot, so this is where as TMM said, the flash comes in. Or you read the opponent trying to interrupt and launch them instead. Its really fun and organic, the types of matches you can have with a yoshimitsu that knows his whole movelist and transitions i think.
Not that armor King was easy to play, but having those traditional tools in a move list made all the difference sometimes. Brian's complete lack of traditional tools in Tekken makes him extremely difficult to play in regular situations. You constantly have to be out thinking and rethinking everything that you do. I noticed that the most when I spent some time learning armor king
I go with Xiaoyu, simply because I played her most in the last Tekken game I ever owned which was Tekken Tag Tournament on PS2 launch. That was an age before guides and training tools and she was the one, I just figured out some good combos on my own, that carried me to victory over all my friends, that knew even less about fighting game fundamentals.
I really like Jin in this game. I’ve been playing tekken since tekken 3, and I’ve really dove into the competitive aspect of tekken since tekken 6. My 3 mains have been King, Bryan, and Jin. It took me a while to master Jin but when I did he was incredibly rewarding. I’m pretty good at executing his more difficult inputs and I feel like I can play Jin at a pretty high level these days. I for one actually like that they made Jin a little easier to play. I love that he has one button electrics now and his moveset being simplified for me has made him significantly more fun to play (he was really fun already it’s just now you don’t have to work as hard). I feel like the only negative about it is you really can’t argue that as a jin main you have better execution than any other players. But that doesn’t matter to me and that doesn’t mean his high level execution has been taken out. You can absolutely play Jin the same way by using high level inputs. It’s just now you have the extra option of going into breaking step with easy electrics and I for one have been loving mixing the two actions in game.
BEGINNER
00:00 Intro
02:37 Jin
04:20 Jun
5:52 Law
08:05 Asuka
10:48 Leroy
12:20 Lars
15:19 Alisa
17:08 Azucena
19:18 Kuma/Panda
22:20 Feng
25:10 Claudio
INTERMEDIATE
28:55 Paul
32:55 Hwoarang
36:35 King
38:50 Leo
39:50 Raven
41:50 Victor
43:25 Shaheen
45:15 Zafina
47:30 Ling And Understanding Knowledge Checks
53:30 Nina
55:00 Yoshimitsu
57:59 Lili
1:25:00 Jack-8
1:27:27 Dragunov
ADVANCED
1:00:00 Devil Jin
1:04:00 Reina
1:07:55 Kazuya
1:13:00 Bryan
1:16:40 Steve
1:21:22 Lee
You da man Mainman!
SWE
Intro is way too easy to play.
Thank you, daddy Masku
Kazuya in Advanced is a reach if I've ever seen one. He's Intermediate level at most.
Dragunov being an unstoppable train makes sense, he does like trains
choo choo! move bish get out of da weii!
I think I might actually pick him up this time around! 🥶❄️🧊
According to youtube homie talked about lili for 30 minutes
LiliManSwe
Looneymanswe
Bro was simping hard HAHAHA
We all know how much he loves Lili so this doesn't surprise me...
Actually no, he didn't talk about Lili that long. He talks about Devil Jin and all the other advanced characters, and then talks about Jack-8 and Dragunov as he forgot about them in the intermediate tier 😂.
thanks for this vid mainman :) this is gonna be my first tekken since playing tekken 3 when 10 years old - i had a stroke last year and wound up partially paralyzed, this is actually an incredibly useful video to get an idea of easier characters to main. your videos got me back into tekken and encouraged me to try it in spite of my physical disabilities, thank you for all you do for the tekken community!
hope you'll enjoy the game! :)
So do your hands and arms work?
@@ЯНеЧеловек-н3ф thank you!
@@monkeplaysgames7049 there was some permanent muscle loss - i can walk and use my arms and legs, but fingers is tricky. so tricky i went and bought a fight stick actually, controllers give me massive hand cramps unfortunately
@@anarchicnerd666That sucks to hear and I hope you're doing well, but don't let it stop you from doing things that you love! I hope (if possible) you get better man.
Always pick yoshimitsu. That’s how you pick your main
"YOTHUN.. SOORIY-SOORIY-SOORIY" - Yoshimitsu
(putting sword away & meditating)
@@Ttangko_ his articulation can only be matched by Link's beautiful way with words.
In the words of our hero, "hut hut ha toriyah sooooyaaaaaaaah".
i don't want to be cancer tho
There's been a lot of "how to pick your main" videos for Tekken 8, but they've all been pretty boilerplate. As a newcomer, it's nice to have a video that goes over different characters and actually says something.
Tmm will always be one of those people to go in depth about literally everything
Also check out his 8 minute guides for greater information and examples for the character(s) you are interested in as well.
Newcomer!!! 😍 welcome to tekken
tekken is not an easy fighting games. TMM goes over them in 8 minute but trust me... That is only the basic and that is not the full potential of the character but TMM will give you the basic to build on... Learning the In depth of a character will take like 30 minuites to 1 hour of explaining depending on which character and the game is very new so there always something new coming up.
But he seems to be pretty biased in general.
Tekken 3 was my first Tekken. Hearing that Jin is beginner friendly is music to my ears.
Gr8 kid wt about tekken 2 weren't your born that time
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Reina sounds like the kind of character that gets better as the player gets better while also being functional at lower skill level.
The best kind of character
Youre basically describing a top tier character 😂
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Am I though?
Akuma was a top tier character (best in the game even), but he was definitely not functional at a lower skill level.
Katarina was a high tier character, basically top 10 according to some folks; and she has zero skill expression.
@@patrickimperial579 Akuma was top tier (top 1 for a long time) but didn't function at lower skill levels bc lower skilled players couldn't pilot him. Fahkumram was broken at every level, even being banned from being played in a majority of Pakistan's tournaments. Anyone could take advantage of his countless built in mixups, insane mobility with small hitbox especially when sidestepping, and absurd range.
You mean like practically every character?
Great list.
What I’ll say is if you love an advanced character, play them. That goes for every fighting game. Just accept it’s going to be slower to start winning and getting good.
Best time to start was 10 years ago but that’s impossible next best time is now. The reality is you’re going to have to learn fundamentals whoever you play.
I see people say to learn basics with one character and then switch but I personally believe this is wrong, play the character that’s going to make you keep playing the game, the one you like, the one that fits YOU.
I know it’s not Tekken but I’ve seen so many Ryu players, playing like psychopaths because they should have picked an aggressive rushdown but were told he’s the beginner.
I'm pretty new to Tekken and I went straight into Kazuya only because I play a lot of him in smash lol
This is the truth, most people have no clue what they're doing in low-mid ranks so even if the character is super high in execution like Lee, Kazuya etc... you will win games by just doing some of their stronger basic moves or even if you execute slower than optimal difficult moves its not a big deal because most of the time it will land anyway.. Most games you lose will be because you lack fundamentals or got knowledge checked which is frustrating but that's how people learn
That's pretty generic bad advice. Learning the basics with a straightforward character is always better than trying to learn some advanced character who has completely different gameplay, which is also why a lot of people get stuck in lower ranks for years. They skip the basics and just get their ass beat by people who know the basics of the game.
If you have fun, I guess you do you. Your advice isn't terrible and I'm not sitting on it, but it's just not good either.
@@Anonymous-gq7ho my point is you’ll learn better when you’re interested. You’re expecting new players to pick a character they find boring and grind out fundamentals.
Sure this may be the “best way” but it’s also terrible for player retention. Fundamentally these games are meant to be fun, none of us are getting paid for it, why make it feel like homework?
Also some hard characters are hard because they’re unique, learning Ryu will mean fuck all if you’re trying to play Dhalsim. He just moves and plays so differently.
The opposite can be true as well, “harder characters” can be very fundamentals based like the mishimas for example, you have to get solid fundamentals, but if you pick an easier character, who may be easier because they allow you to win with less fundamentals, or even no fundamentals because they have several tool to skip neutral, guess what ? You aren’t learning good fundamentals, you’re just trying to win.
@@Anonymous-gq7ho From a rational perspective you are 1000% right however a lot of people get discouraged if they feel like they have to do x y z before they can start enjoying something and in the end its a game so unless someone plans to be really good it doesnt matter.
Especially because as you said the majority of players are for fun gamers stuck in low ranks or not even playing ranked
For Reina, I feel like they struck gold with her design. If she truly is "I will mash you to death" while also being super complex, you have a character that can shine in all levels, newbies (me included) will be happy to pick her up, get some wins and when going gets tough they will have to naturally improve. I am ready to give my time to learn her moveset. If that fails, Asuka will be there for me I guess :D
Nah, Asuka fell hard, and it still continues...
understandable although i can't say the same about her visual design
@@GRGCompletionist I think she looks neat, but each their own
@@jsmth99take out the neck collar and hairstyle and she does, right now she's basically Asuka with Jin's clothes
I was going to pick lee as they just murd3red law's gameplay in this game but more and more I get interested on her. I also main kazuya, so maybe she'll be a middle ground for me. I think I'll enjoy maining her, let's see
“Poor Ganryu mains. All three of you.”
I'm one of them. Have you seen my two brothers ?
I love how some characters have 3 sentences as their fighting style and then: Super Spy, Ancient Assassination Techniques (?), Law = Martial arts, as if he didn't have an estabilished one already.
Very funky BIOs by the developers
People don't talk about it a lot but you're so right about King struggling with evasion. Some characters just go under his high hitboxes if you don't play really tight and force them to respect gou.
Yeah King will have a lot of problems this season
who’s gou? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@Aggrofoolpffffffhahaha😂
King: *trying to throw*
Feng: nah, I'd db3
I remember the first time I played Tekken 3 on console at a friend's house over 20 years ago, when I finally had time to choose a characters without worrying about time limit, I saw Paul and thought he looked cool so I chose him, that was pretty much the beginning and end of my process of picking a main in Tekken.
I picked Jin, because I thought the fire on his pants looked cool and his roundhouse to triple spin kick was really good against the AI. Of course, when he completely changed styles in 4, I was devastated and confused.
Man, the Tag 2 custom character beat brought me back. Soo much time spent in this mode swagging my characters out to this 🔥 theme
Tekken music in general goes hard. Especially from 3 onward.
Thanks man I was wondering which Tekken game it was from
seeing you on that bandai namco eu channel was amazing. i picked up tekken again after years of not playing because i found my old ps2 and when i searched for some guides you popped up. you made tekken feel accessible instead of it being so overwhelming. gg's
I mained Lucky Chloe, one of my mates mained Josie, and the other mained Katerina in T7. Azucena mirror matches are about to be crazy
I haven't bought the game yet, but I was also an LC main... Is Azucena actually like LC? I'm unsure if I want to buy the game right now because looking at the roster I don't know if there's anyone on there atm that I'd actually want to play :(
Can you guess my main?
Just the right video to shorten the last few hours until christmas.
There’s time stamps for a reason
@@danielmwaura9 Not that i needed them, but OK.
TT2 customisation theme is always gold
So true. I put the theme in the night city stage and it fits really well!
seeing jin fall from advanced tier to beginner tier kinda hurts
As he should. Considering he's the protagonist and first to catch beginner's attention, it only makes sense for him to be an entry skill-level character
@@dexter2898 nah bro it should be a reward for you that u can play him if u are advanced but its only my opinion
Unfortunately it's true...In terms of design, he looks the best in my opinion and also he's got plenty of new cool moves with the exception of some devil flips he's doing but he's so easy to play which really takes out the fun from the character for me.
People are exaggerating like crazy
@@dexter2898that mindset didn't apply to T7 tho
48:23 this is the analysis i came for
Lee was my first and main in T7, off a vague memory of trying him after getting tired of playing King vs AI on my PSP while stuck in a hospital. I was still a super casual and bad player.
I managed to get to Tekken God (potentially more if I didnt get so stressed playing ranked, lol) . It may be tough, but dont feel intimiated if a character is advanced, it's very rewarding. I had basically no competetive fighting game experience when I started, which means anyone can achieve the same if you want it
I main Lee too and I see everywhere that his slide got nerfed, but to me its a huge buff.. being full crouch +frames after hitting from the other side of the screen is really good.. b33 natural is good too.
Did you mean T6?
@@STOPPEDINCOLORADO Yeah, played him in T6 a bit, then mained him in T7 when I actually got serious about playing the game
the backgrounf music being the shop music from tag two brought back so much nostalgia. hands down one of the best ost's in tekken history
The man, the myth and the legend!! So happy to see you as the official bandai namco's beginner guide mentor! Man I remember when I was watching your channel just to learn ewgf on Tekken 6 maybe like 12 or 13 years ago!! Great stuff as always
As a Kuma main, you are welcome for the matchup knowledge
*me looking at the sections thinking to myself "I bet Leo (my char) is talked a out the least"
*realizes I'm right *SWE says "I wonder how many people are even going to look at this section"
*A single tear falls from my eye
I'm a fujin leo main. Leo is crazy strong 😂😂
I will die for Leo, very underrated, we fight for the respect Leo deserves
Tack för att du hjälper de nya spelarna, du är fantastisk!
crazy how they gave lili shapeshifting abilities, she's my go to main now
Super useful, been a Nina main since 1998. Can't wait to main her (and Anna) again for Tekken 8!!!
Praying she's in the season pass year 1. hopefully we don't have to wait 2-3 years Like last time
Shaheen is very fun to play his mixups are hilarious. That face skating move sold me when i saw that you could do it in succession
That got me too in picking him up at least a little bit. Also the back 2 attack makes my brother mold so hard 😂
Its not a TheMainmanSWE video without the Nina downplay and Kazuya build up. It didnt disappoint. I cant wait to lab Reina.
He doesn’t downplay Nina. Everything he says about her is spot on. It’s only the cringy Nina fans who desperately want to convince everyone that she’s hard when all they really do is spam her unfair braindead strings anyway and don’t do the actually hard stuff
@@TheBigEmstos It's a joke. You don't have to go full retard rookie.
Go back and watch all his videos crying how braindead easy Kaz is now.
@TheBigEmstos nina is pretty fun, she may be cheesy but learning her hard stuff is pretty fun, plus i like pure rushdown
Love your character select music, your sunset is straight up my favorite song from tekken
Lili is my second main so ill go with her for the time being but i might try other characters but once Anna is revealed as DLC im definitely maining her as i did since the begining in Tekken 1
it makes me sad Anna isn't in the main roster anymore too, she wasn't my main in any game b4 but i always loved doing the arcade mode with her and Nina and seeing their rivalry
This was definitely one of the best pick your main guides ive ever seen in a game. I just bought tekken 8 and it really helped me get a grasp on things! You earned my sub
Excited to get to play Tekken 8 tonight. I already plan on playing Reina, Leroy, Lee, maybe Claudio, I enjoyed playing him in the demo so actually getting a chance to train with him will be cool, zafina seems interesting, and so does Victor. I foresee big training montages in future.
I just had to stop the video to give appreciation to what SWE said in the intro. Picking a character that looks cool to you to start with is always the proper thing to do. I do it every new fighting game I get and think others should too because you'll have a lot more fun if you do.
I just want to call out people that don't do this though. Everyone that hops on a new fighting game and immediately asks the question "who's good in this game?" or "where's the tier list" and picks their character based off of that I don't respect unless your aim is to go to National and International tournaments. You're not getting on the game to actually enjoy it and have fun at that point imho.
Rooflemonger among others makes vids that promotes that mentality but very few say pick who u like...as for people that want to pick based upon their strength, u can't really blame people for wanting their character that they like to also be good. Think of sf5 ryu until v-shift...
@@TheFightingGentleman Not knowledgeable about SFV but I am more so knowledgeable about 6 since I've got many hours in it. I get what you mean however my thing is people only looking for good characters and only playing them because they're like top 5 in a game. There's plenty of people I see play JP and Ken specifically cuz they're like top 3. I don't blame anyone for wanting the character they play to be good but all I'm saying is don't immediately go for that and only that cuz its lame in my opinion.
@@TheFightingGentleman Problem is, that usually, someone doesn't even know why their character is bad, if they even are lowtier. And that that doesn't matter if you're a good player pushing the character above the basics. That's why everyone always says tier lists only matter for the pro ranks/actual tourneys
@@angelsoflolz that and the fact that tier lists are now pretty much a meme since anyone can make one without being held to standard...
@@ojay4923 i agree but this is the by-product of "patch culture"...the consumers are at fault for this coming to pass despite this being an industry like season passes...most people don't want to accept the fact that they are the reason why they are or aren't good. Top players have been tier whores for decades, but the end results are what's important
TMM must really love talking about Lili
Forever a steve main 🥊🥊
Currently learning Steve rn
This was less of a "how to pick your main" and more of Main Main venting about characters he doesn't like
Yeah. Sometimes he just go like " this guy has too many cheap things bla bla. " how is it supposed to guide people on finding a character of their playstyle?
Yea, Rooflemonger dropped a way better in depth “pick a character” minus all of the cringe salt
@@goropanckechi3028
Xioyu part is hilarious man literally said in pick your main video. The best part of the character is watching you lose.
I mained yoshi since 3 because despite being trash at tekken I'm always amazed at what happens when I have fun pressing random buttons with him.
Jin (The main), Devil Jin, Lars, (maybe Leo too?) is probably the lineup but man I wanna play so many characters, Jun, Hworang, Asuka, Victor, Reina, Raven, Leroy, Kuma and maybe even Bryan and Yoshi everyone just looks so awesome to play it's insane, I'm not sleeping tomorrow.
Jin has been and always will be that guy for me, obligated to main him, no matter his changes he's the character i will always main in tekken.
Reina being both the most complicated and most popular character is a testament at how cool her design is
Reason why she popular because she attractive and she brand new
For me it’s between Reina and Law for my Main, all depends on how Reina plays but from what Iv seen she looks really fun.
everyone knows law he is not easy 😂😅
First Tekken game and I love Jin! Him and Kazuya are badass
tekken tag 2 music ...nostalgia
What’s the song? It’s so good😩
@@DoctorMann tag 2 customization theme
Thanks MainMan. I haven't played Tekken in years but T8 has me wanting to get back into it and this video was very helpful
I'll be maining nina and yoshimitsu
As a hwoarang main who knows how annoying he can be i genuinely appreciate your honesty on him, alot of people tend to dowplay the character due to his annoyance
Kuma is incredible in this game and Im offended you think he won’t beat you with them paws. Bear on top. W’s all day
As a beginner whose first tekken game is 8 and just got it on monday... Bryan is SO fun to me
TheSaltManSWE started calling characters "for monkeys" and "braindead" in his first Tekken 8 video. Can't wait for another 8 years of making the community toxic.
Nothing wrong with using brain dead characters but they’re brain dead
Amazing video. You sure know a lot. Thanks for sharing this information. I realized I pick my main based on design, playstyle and concept. Not so much on complexity.
I'm dying at your explanations! 😂 love it!
My fave tekken youtuber! So good to hear your insights on each character.
I already know I ll play Kuma, nobody will understand what I do, me neither and I ll have fun
Reached Assailant on Devil Jin 5 days after playing ranked only then remembered to check out the move list XD
I always played Eddy and Lee but decided with a new game it's time to learn a new character and finally (hopefully) git gud, so I'll be playing raven in T8 and spending a lot of time in training mode lol 😄
Yea I'm digging Raven,I'ma main him and one female character💯
Came for the breakdown of my character, stayed for the commentary. This dude is pretty funny 🤣
As someone who is relatively new to Tekken, I'm going straight to Kazuya, and Im already have fun lol
This is the way. At least he isn't totally kneecapped like T6 or T7 vanilla
@NYG5 Yeah lol
I play Kazuya a lot in Smash, which is the big reason why I'm maining him
It's so awesome when smash gets people to play the origin of the character they play.
@TrueReverse74 True. Tho when I got into SF6, my first Street Fighter, I gravitated to Zangief. Mainly because my main in smash is Incineroar.
This thread is awesome
Just cant believe i was like 5 years old playing tekken 2 and now at 29 im playing tekken 8 shit is wild
3:28 That’s a really good point. Tekken was always the outlier im that the main characters were always some of the most difficult ones, in other fighting games, the main character is useally quite simple, like Ryu in Street Fighter
Ever since tekken 3 jin has been the most fun to play for me so its easy for me to decide.
ehh but tekken 3 jin and tekken 4 jin are completely different
This is the first time that TMM has been generally positive about every character in the game
Nah, that Yoshimitsu overview was a joke 😂. Learn 20 flow charts and get stuff for free. Typical uneducated mainman rant
Didn't watch the Xiaoyu section?
@@Ston3D.FreeN7 "generally positive"
Glad I’m finally back, I got bored of tekken 7 but I’m ready to get back into the grind
This video is gunna blow up for sure, get ready fr the next 10 years tekken 8!🎉
Emotionless Passion is the best fighting game character theme ever.
I thought that we were going to see TMM talk positively about every character, including Xiaoyu for once LOL. Instead a 5 minute tirade about how people who play her don't really know Tekken and how the best part of her is seeing someone beat her.
Well I guess we would never recommend her to people looking to pick their main anyway... considering you do have to be absolutely *monstrous* at Tekken to main her effectively. Those "flow charts" take monumental amounts of labbing and calm and composed execution, absolutely nothing is free about Xiaoyu. No abusable and brainless gimmicks like Jin d+2, Bryan QCB+1, Feng 3+4 in heat, etc.
I was hoping for an explanation about Leo. "Will anyone even go to this part of the video?" Yikes. I know they are an all-rounder, can you give literally anything else?
Good info on other characters, it's just some characters definitely got better explanations than others. Can really tell where biases/experience is.
Yea, it’s like he still hasn’t grasp the concept of those characters. Some characters can simply oppress you with big plus on block moves and hard hitting 50-50s. Others don’t have that luxury and have to read their opponents while in the negative frames. Having an opponent “steal their turn” seems to trigger him if it’s not done with a basic sidestep lol. For some reason he keeps assuming everytime that happens, it’s because of a pre-planned flow chart 😂
How he omits Feng when he does the exact thing is also pretty funny, but I guess he’s masculine enough to get a pass
Been here since 35k subs. My oh my, it's awesome to see your success over the years. I Hope you 500k in Tekken 8.
Reina and zafina are definitely going to be the characters i play most🤝🏾until Anna that is🤣
Love the BM. Was one my favorite themes from Tekken Tag 2.
Are you the same The Main Man that wrote the Tekken Tag combo / guide in a magazine back in early 2000 ?
If so, I just want to say I had a great time at the arcade back in high school
so glad I found this channel after 20 years - time to get back to Tekken!
OMG "Your Sunset" best game ever.
Kazuya and Jun as always for me, mains since T1/T2 as a kid.
I LOVE LISTENING TO PPL THAT KNO WAT THEY R TALKIN ABOUT. GREAT VID. THNX!!!
Cant believe we live in a world where jin is easier than hwoarang
Love the Tekken tag 2 customization theme playing in the background
Can’t wait for Saul Goodman to be added as DLC 🙏
This is the first Tekken I got into. I started out with Lars, but I soon got bored with him and switched to Jack-8. Having a blast now!
I am going to main Devil Jin, Reina, Jin and Kazuya
Really keeping it in the family there huh lol
I LOVE this video! I was just about to say that you will have soo many content related things you will be able to do now when tekken 8 comes!!!
It’s that time of the decade boys. We choose our mains, stop what we’re doing to tune into Daddy TMM whenever he uploads, and enjoy some #goodassTekken🔥
Thanks main man. I was in a dark place finding a character. I used Zaffina and Xiaoyu and often felt something was not right. Im new to tekken and like you said, they are cheese characters ( i didnt know ) and i feel im not properly learning tekken with them. People in purple rank start to counter my cheese and i felt puzzled. I looked at your list to try and find myself a good fundamental character to restart my tekken journey in a healthy way and learn back from the start
Their push to make Jin the good guy is hilarious to me. He's as much of a villain as Kazuya, except Kaz has an actual personality 😋
Not even close, you really gotta do mental gymnastics to say Jin was ever as evil as Kazuya even at his worst moment in t6.
Another Kazuya main denied
@@anthonychase6906 How many died during the WW3 that he started? 😄
Cant wait to play devil jin gonna be so much fun
I am going to main 4 characters, Jin, Hwoarang, Reina, and I'm still finding one more
do 4th dragunov
Pick kazuya don't be a wuss
Leave a spot for DLC my man :D
French John Wick
Just wait good ol kiryu or tifa
Tekken 8 is bringing in a lot of new Tekken players, including me, havent played Tekken since T5 came out. Making Jin easier to use makes sense. He's catches the eyes of new players
I totally disagree with mainman, getting xiaoyu to work beyond the basics took many days. Interrupting xiaoyu is much easier than playing her and i never had difficulty beating her.
Same with learning flowcharts, after you use a tactic two times, you need to switch it up. Its not that easy.
From a few videos I've seen he really hates her because of her cheesiness, so he is probably a bit biased about her
Law and Raven my mains glad to see my boy Raven back!!!!
Dude when I saw lars's trailer in tekken 8
I just saw how cool he looked and said "yep that was sick, I am gonna play him"
Claudio's projectile can also be done from starburst too which is just super crazy.
An aspect missing about Yoshi is his Freestyle Potential.
Yeah we lab a lot of flowcharts, but the real magic happens when you just
remember certain stance transition moves, a couple of ways of how to get
into those moves, how to transition out without breaking the mix and then
just going at it.
When you get into that "flow", how the fck is the opponent supposed to guess
what you are going to do next, if you are making it up as it happens. But you
are at the risk of being launch punished for this a lot, so this is where as TMM
said, the flash comes in. Or you read the opponent trying to interrupt and launch
them instead. Its really fun and organic, the types of matches you can have with
a yoshimitsu that knows his whole movelist and transitions i think.
1:30:52 love this double grab from the mainman
Not that armor King was easy to play, but having those traditional tools in a move list made all the difference sometimes. Brian's complete lack of traditional tools in Tekken makes him extremely difficult to play in regular situations. You constantly have to be out thinking and rethinking everything that you do. I noticed that the most when I spent some time learning armor king
Super excited to pick up Reina, and continue with Paul from 7
Got Jin locked in as my main being a brand new player jumping straight into ranked. But really interested in Xiaoyu, Leo & Panda for my end game.
Leo is crazy fun would highly recommend
I go with Xiaoyu, simply because I played her most in the last Tekken game I ever owned which was Tekken Tag Tournament on PS2 launch. That was an age before guides and training tools and she was the one, I just figured out some good combos on my own, that carried me to victory over all my friends, that knew even less about fighting game fundamentals.
I'm pretty happy that there aren't many other Xiaoyu mains. I love playing her, but I really hate fighting her.
I really like Jin in this game. I’ve been playing tekken since tekken 3, and I’ve really dove into the competitive aspect of tekken since tekken 6. My 3 mains have been King, Bryan, and Jin. It took me a while to master Jin but when I did he was incredibly rewarding. I’m pretty good at executing his more difficult inputs and I feel like I can play Jin at a pretty high level these days. I for one actually like that they made Jin a little easier to play. I love that he has one button electrics now and his moveset being simplified for me has made him significantly more fun to play (he was really fun already it’s just now you don’t have to work as hard). I feel like the only negative about it is you really can’t argue that as a jin main you have better execution than any other players. But that doesn’t matter to me and that doesn’t mean his high level execution has been taken out. You can absolutely play Jin the same way by using high level inputs. It’s just now you have the extra option of going into breaking step with easy electrics and I for one have been loving mixing the two actions in game.
Reina was high on my list until you said 3rd Strike parries. Now she’s number 1. Let’s go…
Will still try Yoshi though
As a Steve main since T4, Im excited to be switching to Reina