her audience is mostly straight boys which is unheard of female rappers, like all my friends follow ice spice on ig but literally cant sing a line let alone a verse or a song
It may sound crazy I've been over Ice for more than a year. Poor vocabulary and amongst all the female rappers she possess lesser skills. I need Sexy Red to leave too, I won't elaborate on this one.
If I was a rapper who’s been working on my craft for years and actually love and care about music and then see Annie blow up for nothing I’d be so pissed 😭
@@DW51380 you the one making these type of women famous cause men are shallow and only equate women’s value to their beauty when there’s women you can listen to that are more talented artists and better singers than men
@@DW51380 you the one making these type of women famous cause you are shallow and only equate women’s value to their beauty when there’s women you can listen to since women are more talented artists and better singers than men
I'm an old Asian dude who listens to rock music or old 90s 00s rap. I don't listen to this Ice Spice thing, but I've seen her silly antics before. Hearing that she is on a downfall actually makes me happy. People like this do not deserve the success. They send a horrible message.
Gen Xer in 50s & got most of my new music from radio or MTV. By mid 2000s was in serious trouble for new tunes & artists & by 2013 I was lost but got a few viral songs. So unfortunately I never heard of an "Ice Spice" so I'll ask my now adult sons. Never thought I'd become stagnant in taste in music because that's how my generation sometimes saw our grandparents born in the 1920s. IMHO the culture is now being pushed by corporations more than talent rising to the top but surely someone will explain how I'm wrong on that. Either way, I can attest that my life is still great despite not having an "Ice Spice" yet. Maybe I'll order one at the coffee shop. 😂 Our young ppl have been screwed on nearly every level from housing to vehicles to health care to jobs. IMHO a crisis like the Great Depression is coming & it's going to test & forge character, identity & leadership in a generation at whom others aim unfair criticism. To any of those in that generation who read a comment so long: Good luck & sorry my generation screwed up so much. 👍
@@HollyScarletit’s not for you to see your outside of the club trying to get in…. This is an issue that affects BLACK WOMEN IN HIP HOP so no it’s not for you to see, have an opinion on or to even be here…. Hope that helps
It's crazy how she came into the game with curves and a little bit more weight on her, started taking Ozempic, then body shamed her supposed friend who had somewhat of the same body type? Like girl huh
I’m ngl, I ain’t no ice spice fan but yall niggas just learned the word ozempic bc of Kendrick during his beef w drake this😭folks can lose weight without it being surgery or drugs n she stays performing too, so why are folks quick to use that word Ozempic now when someone thick/plus sized gets in shape? Yall ain’t saying that bout Megan and they damn near share the same body type now, so what is we talkin about ☠️
Off topic but i'm on the toilet and im lactose intolerant but i drank a full glass of milk a few hours ago and im currently fighting for my life, please pray for me yall.
Let’s be real here, she only blew up because of her looks. And she is very good looking, but that can only get you so far. She needed talent to back it up, but unfortunately the majority of her songs are absolutely dog water
I lost all respect for the old heads that co-signed her. And y'all wonder why Hip Hop is quickly losing popularity. It's because y'all make these talent-free hacks famous.
She’s not even a rapper. The moment she fell out with Nicki everything started to go sideways for her. Whatever she did or said to Nicki got her in this mess. Along with the mess going between her and Cleopatra right now, has left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. Her true colors are showing and they ain’t looking so pretty.
lol Nicki not any better. She’s just more established with her crack head base. They used each other for that song and Ice just overplayed her hand and got exposed. Now that she doesn’t have the crack head brigade support, she’s falling off faster. Thank goodness, she needs to be banished for this scat fetish she’s trying to push. 💀
I knew she was a mean girl when I saw her Nardwuar interview. All of her reactions were “eyeroll you’re weird, why do you know this?” Which is SO telling. She then walked away instead of answering “doot doot” and pretended not to hear him, just nasty. Nardwuar used to interview all genres but now rarely interviews rock or punk bands bc of how much the bullied or were rude to him. I love to see Hip Hop and R&B embrace him bc that’s what he deserves, I love that we embrace that he’s unique and so passionate to do actual research (as Pharrell said, the best interview he’s ever done). So it was SO telling that, instead of loving how unique and respectful he was, she had to put him down.
Yeah maybe they got a different impression but I got a similar one to yours. That series of interviews he did was pretty hectic bc it was in between artists sets and very loud and busy. Despite them being in a rush she seemed respectful and playful answering a lot of his questions and having fun interactions w him despite having to go so quickly. Imo @@jennferley8854
@@nalalalalala9946idk about all that. It’s just a picture. The lack of self respect is likely rooted in life long insecurities which she developed for varying reasons.
nah the labels, industry and their fake bots did. and young folks dont understand that many big accounts are fake bots and that celebs get paid to promote stuff so they get FOMO and start hyping industry plants up
I’m surprised that this still surprises people. She was in the limelight for a while, made her money, now she’ll begin to fade away and become a thing of the past + there be a new IT girl soon, it’s the cycle
I think people are surprised because she has INSANE financial backing. She has the looks of Doja Cat, she fits into the NY Drill scene, etc. If you are constantly shoved down people's throats, and get financial backing, its hard to fall off. Almost all superstar artist have insane financial backing. To me, her situation reminds me allot of Jack Harlow, only difference was that he stuck around and got enough traction/fans. Her label has to be upset, they expected her to fit right in with the Megan's and Cardi's of the world. They thought they had their new girl, but they were wrong.
I’m not surprised- what’s surprising for me is people being able to see she a gimmick artist but still complaining about her fame. They should have known she didn’t have longevity in the game so what’s the point of complaining. Just vibe lol
I was a fan of Bia until it became clear that her / her label has no intention of her actually locking in / dropping an album, and instead she’s now basically just an IG model and Nicki Minaj lapdog.
I get bored now when I watch UA-camrs talk about celebrities and their downfalls. But for some reason you’re one of the few that I actually enjoy watching.
Been with Blackey since before the pandemic. Him and before they were famous I discovered at the same time but I stopped following the other for sometime now. Blackey never cause he's the informative traploreross. Fell for your content before you ever demasked.
Hear me out: I feel like the general public has gotten annoyed with Ice Spice and the situation with Cleotrapa gave us a reason to cancel her. Let’s be real; this girl has been in our face since she blew up with “Munch”. Her rise to fame was just too rapid. Because of that, her imposition on us as listeners hasn’t given her the time she needs (and any artist) to develop a sound that resonates with anyone 🤷🏾♀️.
@@MaverickToSociety this is exactly how I feel. I could so tell that she was being shoved up our asses because I dead ass thought Munch was MID. and this was during that dry ass period in rap music where nobody was making anything good and I WANTED a female rapper. She was so disappointing and then she was suddenly everywhere? I know she's mostly a gen z artist but they should have standards too! I KNOW she writes her own raps because they're ass! Basic ABC's Kindergarten Dr. Seuss ass bars
She would’ve never fell off if people weren’t so intent on boosting her up. She doesn’t have the talent to maintain her success and buzz. Her desirability is pretty much drying up and now people are seeing her for who she truly is; a no bars and no stage presence having influencer
Even Kai Cenat asked her to freestyle and all she did was twerk. No word said out of her mouth. She either has a trash ghostwriter or she just lied about being passionate about music.
Notice how most of the songs she blew up for had someone else in the song? Barbie world and boys a liar pt2? Pink pantheress carried boys a liar and nicki carried barbie world.
@@steezskater18spot on, artists with low shelf lives get plugged into the machine by the labels, the real artists brings the machine to the label already built, the latter is becoming less and less likely nowadays
@@samgome01plenty of people with more talent who never make it, assets from where? Nobody just gets money from thin air, weren’t these people normal people before the fame? Shit is strange
@@YoungEli9 agree, there are probably hundreds of girls just like her who are hot and can rap (to some degree) I can't help but feel that she's an industry plant
Hi, I am not very academic in the pop and hip hop world and I was very interested by the content of your video and your voice is very soothing, you gained a subscriber. Cheers from France.
Ice Spice, Sexxy Redd, Sukiyana, the City Girls. They're almost like smokepurpp, lil pump, lil xan, and all the other ones I think we've been experiencing the female version of SoundCloud rappers for the past 6-7 years.
“The music industry isn’t built on talent” because we push so many people that only fit the look, and us a consumers, we only pay attention when someone says something crazy
@@irismercedes4167 the majority of their fans are yt people, no? look at most of the crowd when they perform. a whole lot of yt or light skin out there. its not surprising that yt or light skinned people flock to light skin artists. at a certain point, all adults were once children and we all went off of color association regarding many things. from objects to people. we associate darkness with the unknown and for many people, the unknown is scary. if you believe that your entire childhood then its no surprise you'd steer clear of dark skin. something like that being in your brain via tv or trauma as a child is something that just doesnt go away. and of course there are racist people out there too that will favor the ones closest to yt. i just dont understand why people find this surprising though. if yt is high praised then how can light skin not be?
@@irismercedes4167 This is true. I think some famous person that came out before music videos made a statement about how tv changed the way music was consumed. Before, it was all radio so you had no choice but to focus on the music.
This isn't just for Ice Spice but, ALL artist/rappers that got lucky with major labels plucking them from ground like dandelions. These Plants are not built for the long run because they're not rooted in the right environment to help them grow. Before they know it, their carrier is cut short AND pay their label back the same amount that was poured into them.
@@JordanBigDickChampionyup! They actually be having talented artist, but they be shelving them. I do not feel bad for these labels at all. Them crumbling is exactly what they get for putting money into these talentless plants that they want to push in our faces.
@@Waters.. There's like 50+ artists I know that are underground who I would pick over any new mainstream artist. I'll admit my own music isn't good nor mainstream worthy yet but at least I change my style every song unlike Ice Spice who has zero versatility.
I’m pretty sure the Kendrick and Drake beef reminded people why they like hip hop. No diss against the women side of rap but it’s boring. Women don’t really support non party women rappers. Noname, Little Sims etc. incredible artists but they don’t get support. Their albums are praised by mostly white publications.
@@luvbug_m I heard about Noname back when her name was Noname Gypsy in the early to mid 2010s. She was on Chance The Rapper and Mick Jenkins early stuff. But she's also a chocolate woman who aint selling sex.
@@smoothsavage2870 Oh I didn’t know she’s been out that long. I second that aint selling sex part, it’s refreshing to hear a song that’s not about how big your butt is (etc.) Haven’t listened to her since I switched my music streaming app, definitely gonna add her back to my playlist though.
Fist time viewer here! I love that you narrate things with a calm voice, it truly irritates me when commentators scream at the microfone and do too much Your voice is perfect for commentary videos :)
She had more top 5 entires on the Hot 100 in 2022 than any other artist that year. She was undeniably and unquestionably on whether or not you like her music.
Honestly before the fame, she was really pretty as just a normal girl like she was blessed with looks and she sort of seemed like she had ambition to be something in life. Hollywood definitely ain’t it.
Man I'm so glad you're back, you make the best videos covering this industry. I used to legit wonder why i stopped paying attention to these kind of videos but it was really bc I'd watch your vids and you cover the industry in a more analytical way.
Very good job, young man. Never heard of this page before. My algorithms have vastly different themes. But I just subscribed. Which I don't remember ever doing with this kind of content. But your presence, your delivery, and your overall niceness was very nice to see. Keep up the good work. Many blessings 👊🏿
I'm gonna be brutally honest: i never found her "hot" in any way, i have NO IDEA why people are making such a big deal about how supposedly "hot" she is. When i think of "hot" i think of someone like Dua Lipa (who is also talented, the same can't be said of Ice Spice). Ice, in comparison, is pretty average, which is why i just never understood the hype about her looks. Colorism is a hell of a drug i guess.
Personal taste and culture tends to define what's "hot" to different people. Ice Spice is gorgeous (when she isnt wearing that short curly hairstyle) imo. Her body increases her level of hotness. Dua Lipa is meh to me personally.
That just means you like a specific look. It's not 'brutal', millions of people find Ice absolutely stunning, which is clear by the response she got. Dua Lipa has a thin, athletic rectangular shape, Ice has an exaggerated pear shape with a ton of assets. Very different body types
There have always been one hit wonders, many of them are industry plants like Miley Cyrus whose father is Billy Ray Cyrus the one-hit-wonder singer of "Achey Breakey Heart" and the goddaughter of Dolly Parton. Most big artists are juiced in - it’s nepotism. They have connections. They aren’t the most talented or skilled or hardworking or even the most attractive. They fit a niche in the way they look and they’re fit into a genre that happens to be very popular. That’s why you’ll find a lot of artists found fame in a new genre and style, after doing something very different before they were "discovered”; producers take the ones they can easily mold like clay, they decide what to make them into, the music (which is usually written by someone else, ghostwriters or professional songwriters. Like the song they bought from a songwriter, recycled from Miley Cyrus, to give it to Jojo Siwa. They decide how they want to use them. Speaking of Jojo Siwa, they orchestrated her entire "breakout" from her songs to her style (she didn’t even know who Gene Simmons was and her whole look was directly drawn from Simmon’s).
This is a waste of time though. Everybody wants to hear everybody trash Drake, but there are already thousands of videos doing this already. There's no need lol.
Dude your videos are fantastic! I like how professional your sound is... but then there's the look, what ate you going for exactly? Hopefully not the same thing everyone else is trying for as well which is to seem "different". Just be yourself and you will blow up! "Blow up" in comparison to where you already are! Good luck and keep up the good work!
I hate the way that she twerks, the way that she flirts, I hate the way that she dress, I hate the way that she clout chase if I sold sex I’d be in distress.
“Her body is more popular than her music”
Can confirm, my friend who is down bad for her has never mentioned a song.
I don't get it, she's just like chubby lol
Bro, she’s got the thickness. Your friend is obviously a connoisseur.
Any fan i knew only knew a tik tok hook or one sentence of her song. She's only popular for shaking her butt and sticking out her tongue, thats it.
@@TrueAfricanHero Y2K is the evidence
her audience is mostly straight boys which is unheard of female rappers, like all my friends follow ice spice on ig but literally cant sing a line let alone a verse or a song
It may sound crazy I've been over Ice for more than a year. Poor vocabulary and amongst all the female rappers she possess lesser skills. I need Sexy Red to leave too, I won't elaborate on this one.
Nah that's not that crazy, that's common sense. It's just not so common nowadays.
Lmfao I’m mad bc I love me so Redd
I'm ngl I understand sexy redd but I can see her appeal. Cause how she raps and acts is really her. She has authenticity vs someone like ice spice
Those lip glosses sexy red came out with sound foul. She needs a reset.
I never liked her so I must be insane, I don't think its crazy to say you don't like her anymore I think its crazy anyone ever liked her.
With rappers like Doechii and Flo milli, the fact that ice spice is even a thing is just disgusting
That’s just TWO emcees that should’ve hit her level of popularity with the masses ❤
Doechii i looooveeeee
Doechii is such a hidden gem... Her voice, aaaaaa
Blame all the women who said Cardi B was "empowering". That's what started this whole mess and popularized the hoe rap genre.
Don't forget Tink or Dej Loaf.. Highly talented yet highly overlooked smh
She looked so pure and much better before the fame😔
I agree.
Agreed. She looked so good.
Stop lyin
so sad
before she sold her soul lol
The ice is melting
That's a bar
@@Blablabla-f3b never that incel
She looks different in the face lmao eww
Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Ice been worse than mid
The spice is diluted
If I was a rapper who’s been working on my craft for years and actually love and care about music and then see Annie blow up for nothing I’d be so pissed 😭
Word 😂😂
That’s what happens most of the time. The industry does not like authenticity and talent.
It’s been this way for years. Half the medications you listen to don’t write their own music rhianna for example is a performer
Trust me. It pisses me off daily seeing all these wack rapper's blow up while I'm making real music and getting nowhere
that ass aint nothing, tbf
Ice Spice threatens to drop music without twerking in the music video
Nooooooo those are the only good ones…..on mute
@@DW51380 😂🤣😂
Threatens😂😂😂
@@DW51380 you the one making these type of women famous cause men are shallow and only equate women’s value to their beauty when there’s women you can listen to that are more talented artists and better singers than men
@@DW51380 you the one making these type of women famous cause you are shallow and only equate women’s value to their beauty when there’s women you can listen to since women are more talented artists and better singers than men
I'm an old Asian dude who listens to rock music or old 90s 00s rap. I don't listen to this Ice Spice thing, but I've seen her silly antics before. Hearing that she is on a downfall actually makes me happy. People like this do not deserve the success. They send a horrible message.
Her music is definitely trash.
“This ice spice thing” lol
@@ladytionne1 Perfect description 💀
Gen Xer in 50s & got most of my new music from radio or MTV. By mid 2000s was in serious trouble for new tunes & artists & by 2013 I was lost but got a few viral songs. So unfortunately I never heard of an "Ice Spice" so I'll ask my now adult sons. Never thought I'd become stagnant in taste in music because that's how my generation sometimes saw our grandparents born in the 1920s. IMHO the culture is now being pushed by corporations more than talent rising to the top but surely someone will explain how I'm wrong on that. Either way, I can attest that my life is still great despite not having an "Ice Spice" yet. Maybe I'll order one at the coffee shop. 😂 Our young ppl have been screwed on nearly every level from housing to vehicles to health care to jobs. IMHO a crisis like the Great Depression is coming & it's going to test & forge character, identity & leadership in a generation at whom others aim unfair criticism. To any of those in that generation who read a comment so long: Good luck & sorry my generation screwed up so much. 👍
im dead 🤣🤣🤣
Ppl underestimate how beneficial pretty privilege is, like jeremy meeks got bonded out to model because he was so handsome
You know what’s funny …. I don’t see what yall claiming to see not hating… just being honest
not even pretty she was just thick
She not pretty
@@HollyScarletit’s not for you to see your outside of the club trying to get in…. This is an issue that affects BLACK WOMEN IN HIP HOP so no it’s not for you to see, have an opinion on or to even be here…. Hope that helps
@@banterbabeuhhh…. So u simping but she don’t even know who tf u are. 🤔 carry on
It's crazy how she came into the game with curves and a little bit more weight on her, started taking Ozempic, then body shamed her supposed friend who had somewhat of the same body type? Like girl huh
@@0.0dots the fame clearly got to her. Fast.
Fr
IS giving self hate
It’s giving insecurity and low self esteem
I’m ngl, I ain’t no ice spice fan but yall niggas just learned the word ozempic bc of Kendrick during his beef w drake this😭folks can lose weight without it being surgery or drugs n she stays performing too, so why are folks quick to use that word Ozempic now when someone thick/plus sized gets in shape? Yall ain’t saying that bout Megan and they damn near share the same body type now, so what is we talkin about ☠️
More attractive than 99% of women out there? That’s a crazy statement 😂
A FLAGRANT statement 😂
he said “☝🏽by society’s standards.” go be selectively outraged somewhere else😹 it hit home huh .
@@trappilyblk is that you, Isis?
How convenient to leave out the "based on societal standards" from your dumbass comment.
He's right
She's very beautiful on the outside
But not a good person
Off topic but i'm on the toilet and im lactose intolerant but i drank a full glass of milk a few hours ago and im currently fighting for my life, please pray for me yall.
Evan why did you drink a full glass of milk in the first place😭
It’s never worth it 😭
Try those lactose intolerance pills! They’re pretty good
Your fault tho, I'm not praying lol
Try to stay away from milk because Istg the lactose intolerant people like milk and dairy the most anyways, feel better soon, bud
Pray and spray, huh?
Let’s be real here, she only blew up because of her looks. And she is very good looking, but that can only get you so far. She needed talent to back it up, but unfortunately the majority of her songs are absolutely dog water
Not at all.. go back and look at the thumbnail.. she got the same eyes as somebody with downs syndrome..
@@bababababababa6124 and her unique stage Presence yall hating on Ice Spice over nothing
She's cute. But in my opinion she's average, common looking.
@@darnellwilliams8783 def a bot lol
Don't ever disrespect dog water by comparing it to ice spice
I lost all respect for the old heads that co-signed her. And y'all wonder why Hip Hop is quickly losing popularity. It's because y'all make these talent-free hacks famous.
Ong bro this made me embarrassed to listen to anything capital records put out
They sold out w ms poopie
I don't know what old heads you talking about. She's for the young heads
@@mrw3905 *facepalm*
@@mrw3905🤦♂️
She’s not even a rapper. The moment she fell out with Nicki everything started to go sideways for her. Whatever she did or said to Nicki got her in this mess. Along with the mess going between her and Cleopatra right now, has left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. Her true colors are showing and they ain’t looking so pretty.
lol Nicki not any better. She’s just more established with her crack head base. They used each other for that song and Ice just overplayed her hand and got exposed. Now that she doesn’t have the crack head brigade support, she’s falling off faster. Thank goodness, she needs to be banished for this scat fetish she’s trying to push. 💀
To be fair, it doesnt take much to get on Nickis bad side
@@googoogagaboogieboogiewoogie big ego's don't mix well
yea imma have to go with the other reply on the nicki thing cause every single person falls out with her 😭😭
@@kalisworlice spice was being a snake to Nicki and acting big headed like Nicki didn’t give her a career
I knew she was a mean girl when I saw her Nardwuar interview. All of her reactions were “eyeroll you’re weird, why do you know this?” Which is SO telling. She then walked away instead of answering “doot doot” and pretended not to hear him, just nasty.
Nardwuar used to interview all genres but now rarely interviews rock or punk bands bc of how much the bullied or were rude to him. I love to see Hip Hop and R&B embrace him bc that’s what he deserves, I love that we embrace that he’s unique and so passionate to do actual research (as Pharrell said, the best interview he’s ever done).
So it was SO telling that, instead of loving how unique and respectful he was, she had to put him down.
I watched that interview just now and she seems very nice to him and she did not pretend to not hear him what are you talking about??
Yeah maybe they got a different impression but I got a similar one to yours. That series of interviews he did was pretty hectic bc it was in between artists sets and very loud and busy. Despite them being in a rush she seemed respectful and playful answering a lot of his questions and having fun interactions w him despite having to go so quickly. Imo @@jennferley8854
You sure you not confusing her with Billie Eilish? She acted that way towards Nardwuar. Haven't seen the Ice Spice one.
She was so much more beautiful as a normal NYC college girl.
She really did, it even seemed like she had alot more respect for herself as well.
Agreed
@@nalalalalala9946idk about all that. It’s just a picture. The lack of self respect is likely rooted in life long insecurities which she developed for varying reasons.
Completely agree
She's fumbled her own real career
You forgot to mention her trying to beef with Latto for clout
Latto would humble her.😂😂😂
and losing the beef to latto miserably
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196she ain't any better 💀
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196lmaoo
@@b.a.m.mdoublem1196 latto is nowhere near better LMAO
all i can say is yall blew her up so live wit it😂
Yeah no fr
Literally 😂 like I’m mad I didn’t speak up at first cuz I woulda been right. But ya know “you’re a hater”
Tbh her songs 'Euphoric' and 'Bully Freestyle' are good songs. Idk why she tanked her career to beef with othe artists.
Yeah now they regret it
nah the labels, industry and their fake bots did. and young folks dont understand that many big accounts are fake bots and that celebs get paid to promote stuff so they get FOMO and start hyping industry plants up
*Finally she's evaporating*
yeah but at what cost, mariah carey still has like 41 cycles left
@@Iceyicez do she even make new music 😭
You everywhere 😂
@@queenofnyc5584 gotta be everywhere to know I'm everywhere, eh? Lol . Guess we both everywhere 😭
I’m surprised that this still surprises people.
She was in the limelight for a while, made her money, now she’ll begin to fade away and become a thing of the past + there be a new IT girl soon, it’s the cycle
Sounds like a job well done if you ask me
I think people are surprised because she has INSANE financial backing.
She has the looks of Doja Cat, she fits into the NY Drill scene, etc.
If you are constantly shoved down people's throats, and get financial backing, its hard to fall off.
Almost all superstar artist have insane financial backing.
To me, her situation reminds me allot of Jack Harlow, only difference was that he stuck around and got enough traction/fans.
Her label has to be upset, they expected her to fit right in with the Megan's and Cardi's of the world.
They thought they had their new girl, but they were wrong.
New it girl is chappelle roan
@@tee_bone_malone until the money runs out 🙂
I’m not surprised- what’s surprising for me is people being able to see she a gimmick artist but still complaining about her fame. They should have known she didn’t have longevity in the game so what’s the point of complaining. Just vibe lol
Over hyped annie
Don't disrespect Annie like that
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You said what I didn't realize I was thinking when I see her lol
Put some respect on Annie she actually has talent
@@Aundre7 yall hating on Ice Spice
@darnellwilliams8783 Yes lol.
clicked immediately
Me too lol
Aye me too👏🏾🔥🔥 I'm glad BLACKY IZ BACK💪🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Me too
lmao, we really are the haters
Realll
I love that you mentioned Bia. I love her so much, people don’t give her enough credit.
im super critical of most radio music and i fw bia. doja cat is also really good, i don't mind if she's batshit too.
fuckin love bia!
I was a fan of Bia until it became clear that her / her label has no intention of her actually locking in / dropping an album, and instead she’s now basically just an IG model and Nicki Minaj lapdog.
I love Bia. Very underrated.
she is so talented
She thought we was feeling her 😂😂😂
😂😂
Bro I was but y2k was a betrayal
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
@@KrushinKayher other shit wasnt good enough to stream either
I get bored now when I watch UA-camrs talk about celebrities and their downfalls. But for some reason you’re one of the few that I actually enjoy watching.
Her true colors are showing. When ppl show you who they are blv them.
I’ve been over her.
Very good reporting. I like how you focus on the facts & the info. Good job on being fair & impartial. Good job! 👍🏼
14:22 not her weight shaming cleo now shes thinner😭 i have to say im really not surprised shes a bad person
most obvious surprise
I told my children they wouldn’t eat until Blackey posted again. They said thank you.
yo thats crazzy🤣🤣😭😭
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Been with Blackey since before the pandemic. Him and before they were famous I discovered at the same time but I stopped following the other for sometime now. Blackey never cause he's the informative traploreross. Fell for your content before you ever demasked.
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Hear me out: I feel like the general public has gotten annoyed with Ice Spice and the situation with Cleotrapa gave us a reason to cancel her. Let’s be real; this girl has been in our face since she blew up with “Munch”. Her rise to fame was just too rapid. Because of that, her imposition on us as listeners hasn’t given her the time she needs (and any artist) to develop a sound that resonates with anyone 🤷🏾♀️.
@@MaverickToSociety this is exactly how I feel. I could so tell that she was being shoved up our asses because I dead ass thought Munch was MID. and this was during that dry ass period in rap music where nobody was making anything good and I WANTED a female rapper. She was so disappointing and then she was suddenly everywhere? I know she's mostly a gen z artist but they should have standards too! I KNOW she writes her own raps because they're ass! Basic ABC's Kindergarten Dr. Seuss ass bars
Sexy Redd, Latto all of them that ain't pushing the bar
I couldn't tell you not 1 damn ice spice lyric, but I do know sexy redd's bootyhole is brown😂😂
@@MaverickToSociety orrrr, hear me out, she's just not talented lyrically
na her music is just horrible
As someone who lives in the bronx,trust,shes not relevant up here,no one is blasting her music,the label is using her as a puppet
"Fart, which was to be the single to her next project" had me rolling. Very 2024
Why would they allow her to title a song like that
@ninahill9493 people actually like that gibberish song Kanye made, and let's not ignore these simps are buying bathwater & farts in jars.
@@ninahill9493cuz she likes making toilet jokes/humour?
@@ninahill9493 She thinks farting is sexy, lol.
She would’ve never fell off if people weren’t so intent on boosting her up. She doesn’t have the talent to maintain her success and buzz. Her desirability is pretty much drying up and now people are seeing her for who she truly is; a no bars and no stage presence having influencer
Even Kai Cenat asked her to freestyle and all she did was twerk. No word said out of her mouth. She either has a trash ghostwriter or she just lied about being passionate about music.
Personally, I think she would’ve never fell off if she didn’t get caught talking sht so much
Well I don’t consider Cardi to be that talented lyrically but she still lasted longer than Ice.
@@tinaismamama because cardi can’t make up for what she lacks. I spice is just boring all around
Her explaining her bar to Kai and Kai and Cleo’s having to fake it was good is killing me 😂😂😂😂
WHY are they faking though??? I don’t understand this.
@@pamelalansbury94For clout.
@@kauswekazilimani3736kai doesn't need more clout from ice spice
@@staciii Most people don't NEED clout. They simply WANT clout.
I think that was low key clowning, never heard her yet
Thank you for 4 shout outs .learned of two new artists.
Notice how most of the songs she blew up for had someone else in the song? Barbie world and boys a liar pt2? Pink pantheress carried boys a liar and nicki carried barbie world.
ok wait bffr ices verse was more popular than the whole song boys a liar
tbh not rlly, in ha mood princess diana munch deli those were all solo songs that blew tf up
@@sourmilkies no i meant like her duo songs all blew up not because of her but because of the other person singing
@@sourmilkiesprincess Diana solo version didn’t even chart until it got remixed by Nicki
I nvr thought we’d get a bigger air headed female artist with even less talent than Iggy and Cardi
Cardi b not that bad honestly she's way better than Iggy azalea and Ice spice I've heard worst female rappers than Cardi b
Ntm on Cardi . Her having speech problems don't make her air headed . That woman is intelligent and there are far more worse female rappers
At least with cardi she actually makes up for what she lacks . Visuals, performances and personality. And she do make some good bops here and there.
Cardi is a complete airhead
Cardi is talented.
The spice losing its flavour, the ice melting too fast.
Withering away 🐕
Already you're writing better lyrics than her
To fast ?
@@AladdinBinLaden sorry typo
i can’t even believe we’re talking about colorism and it being the downfall of an artist. i thought yall was gonna call us dark skins crazy forever.
People just want good music. The gimmicks aren't working anymore.
“People” don’t appreciate good music as should, therefore the artist lack effort because it’s not the music anymore
@@steezskater18spot on, artists with low shelf lives get plugged into the machine by the labels, the real artists brings the machine to the label already built, the latter is becoming less and less likely nowadays
Sexxy Red next?
True but the industry is about popularity now.
Exactly 💯. Just trashy gimmicks
Her downfall was her constantly disrespecting black women behind the scenes… it’s her fault 🤷🏾♀️
pas que oui mais ça a joué énormément
Gregg the Stallion disrespects blk women but she keeps giving lip service to her sisters
Or just making ass music in general?
@@EnjeiLaetitiaMoutapam you can speak English though
In her mind she ain't black I'm Dominican
I think the question is less "why did she fall off" but more of "how tf did she become so popular"
Whelp that answer is easy, her ASSets and having enough talent to make it.
@@samgome01plenty of people with more talent who never make it, assets from where? Nobody just gets money from thin air, weren’t these people normal people before the fame? Shit is strange
@@YoungEli9 ......... People are thirsty for her looks..... Aka her A S S ets, mostly young guys.
@@YoungEli9 agree, there are probably hundreds of girls just like her who are hot and can rap (to some degree) I can't help but feel that she's an industry plant
Hi, I am not very academic in the pop and hip hop world and I was very interested by the content of your video and your voice is very soothing, you gained a subscriber. Cheers from France.
Ice Spice, Sexxy Redd, Sukiyana, the City Girls. They're almost like smokepurpp, lil pump, lil xan, and all the other ones
I think we've been experiencing the female version of SoundCloud rappers for the past 6-7 years.
Facts^^^^
I havent thought about it that way but wow you are so right
Hold up. Lil pump makes some very catchy music💯
Hit this on the spot lmao
Lil pump en smokepurpp did release some bangers tho
“The music industry isn’t built on talent” because we push so many people that only fit the look, and us a consumers, we only pay attention when someone says something crazy
Also why is being lightskinned, pretty, and having a big butt enough to get popular, sorry to say but Beyoncé, Rih and Nicki are all lightskinned
@@irismercedes4167exactlyyyyy
@@irismercedes4167 the majority of their fans are yt people, no? look at most of the crowd when they perform. a whole lot of yt or light skin out there. its not surprising that yt or light skinned people flock to light skin artists. at a certain point, all adults were once children and we all went off of color association regarding many things. from objects to people. we associate darkness with the unknown and for many people, the unknown is scary. if you believe that your entire childhood then its no surprise you'd steer clear of dark skin. something like that being in your brain via tv or trauma as a child is something that just doesnt go away. and of course there are racist people out there too that will favor the ones closest to yt. i just dont understand why people find this surprising though. if yt is high praised then how can light skin not be?
@@irismercedes4167 This is true. I think some famous person that came out before music videos made a statement about how tv changed the way music was consumed. Before, it was all radio so you had no choice but to focus on the music.
@@themadman6667 I really think the biggest colourists are black people.
This isn't just for Ice Spice but, ALL artist/rappers that got lucky with major labels plucking them from ground like dandelions. These Plants are not built for the long run because they're not rooted in the right environment to help them grow. Before they know it, their carrier is cut short AND pay their label back the same amount that was poured into them.
It's these labels' fault, you have all of these super talented underground trap and soundcloud rappers but everyone has bad taste in music nowadays.
@@JordanBigDickChampionyup! They actually be having talented artist, but they be shelving them. I do not feel bad for these labels at all. Them crumbling is exactly what they get for putting money into these talentless plants that they want to push in our faces.
@@Waters.. There's like 50+ artists I know that are underground who I would pick over any new mainstream artist. I'll admit my own music isn't good nor mainstream worthy yet but at least I change my style every song unlike Ice Spice who has zero versatility.
She looked attractive when she wasn't in the industry
She looked so much better in her first few videos to me
Naturally cute
Now she just looks like an industry pawn
Fr real! She was well covered and done. Now her personality is based on her butt.
Yea sometimes when you see ass for so long you get bored
@@alkahinat4558 She looks like a porn star now.
Ice spice is average in looks. Her backside gave her the advantage.
Her booty isn't even that big
That’s what I’m saying like she not ugly but pretty girl can’t even make a hairstyle look good on her
I’m pretty sure the Kendrick and Drake beef reminded people why they like hip hop. No diss against the women side of rap but it’s boring. Women don’t really support non party women rappers. Noname, Little Sims etc. incredible artists but they don’t get support. Their albums are praised by mostly white publications.
Noname especially, I’m heard about her back in 2020 and couldn’t understand why she hasn’t gained attention yet
@@luvbug_m I heard about Noname back when her name was Noname Gypsy in the early to mid 2010s. She was on Chance The Rapper and Mick Jenkins early stuff. But she's also a chocolate woman who aint selling sex.
@@smoothsavage2870 Oh I didn’t know she’s been out that long. I second that aint selling sex part, it’s refreshing to hear a song that’s not about how big your butt is (etc.)
Haven’t listened to her since I switched my music streaming app, definitely gonna add her back to my playlist though.
Rico Nasty n Doechii as well
Thats cause black media loves ghetto culture
dawg as a 19 year old ice spice is only popular for her body 😭
Bout time Mid spice fell off it was only a matter of time 😭👎🏽
I think mid is very generous of you. I just say dookie spice
@@salivatinggreed4219to generous she’s straight booty
@@salivatinggreed4219saying dookie is too kind and I’m sure she’d love the poop reference. Just call her awful
@@Penalicious89 you right she just sucks
@@Penalicious89 awful is way too nice of a term, I would go with ghastly
99% of MOST women!? You hard reachin' with that statement 😂
After that he said 'by society standards'.
People only hear what they wanna hear huh
I mean have you seen the kind of women men develop corn addictions over? She's def the most attractive by their standards lmao
99 percent of women but definitely not 99 percent of celebrities
I never liked ice spice for the music or her body, tbh i was confused on why people likes her, problable the yns faults idk
Her body is amazing though. And natural. We have to give credit where it's due. But that's all she really has going for her.
they like her bc of her body they a using her for her body she tho we all know that she got popular cuz of her body
@@smoothsavage2870 That's not everyones opinion. Her body isn't amazing to me, I like petite and shapely
@@Nonyah123 It's a lot of people's opinion though. Enough that she pretty much has a music career based on her level of beauty and her body alone.
@@smoothsavage2870credit? For what exactly? U simps be blowing me🤣
That was a really great video essay! This kid is good!
I miss physical music releases more every day lol The over abundance of music is overwhelming and my brain is rotting
Man I want the ladies of the 90s and early 2000s back💯💯 super blessed to be a teenager durning that time💯💯💯
Very true! ❤🎉
I always tell my mom she's blessed to have been born in 1980, grown up during the 80s, 90s, early 2000s, etc. I see what you mean.
@@01379 u made me feel old 😂. I was born in 82. Our genz kids are growing up 😢
That was the best era
Nbs though I’m glad you of all people covered this. This finna be lit 😂
she gotta shake her funky booty from left to right to boost her fans up 😂😂😂😂😂
I love to listen to you talk and I love the in depth work you do to bring great content. Awesome Video
Fist time viewer here!
I love that you narrate things with a calm voice, it truly irritates me when commentators scream at the microfone and do too much
Your voice is perfect for commentary videos :)
Solid. This whole video. Keep 'em coming, g.
She got famous because of her body 🤦♂️
Ofc 😊😊😊
her body isn't even worth the hype. What is going on here? Seen everyday black women who are k!lling her in every way 😂
Should've been a dancer 💰
@@XxMayhem88no she did good
yup and her overall looks. Thats it. Thats amazing 😂❤
Don't know who any of these people are but it was informative and you're just adorable! Hope your channel continues to grow. 🦄😁
The real question... was she ever on??
not at all☠️
@@MJGhost yes 2022 to late 2023 yall have amnesia or something Smh
the real answer... yes.
She had more top 5 entires on the Hot 100 in 2022 than any other artist that year. She was undeniably and unquestionably on whether or not you like her music.
She's definitely mainstream. Everyone knows ice spice
Ice spice is all hype no talent she wasn’t ready for that type of fame
She wasn’t at all plus that fame got in her head overtime.
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That's a great description for all of today's rappers and singers
Honestly before the fame, she was really pretty as just a normal girl like she was blessed with looks and she sort of seemed like she had ambition to be something in life. Hollywood definitely ain’t it.
Idk about "blessed with looks* but..ok lol
How many times am I going to see videos like this
You're going to keep seeing them if you continue to click on them. That's the algorithm.
@ is not what I meant but thanks
@@fxlcovlxdimiryou're welcome.
I personally don’t think she’s all that attractive
Nah
Agreed, she's overrated.
it dont matter
@@vincikeeper1581doesnt matter she got the bag
@@rue_777 ok
Honestly most people only know ice spice by name. Her music isnt at the front of her brand fr.
Man I'm so glad you're back, you make the best videos covering this industry. I used to legit wonder why i stopped paying attention to these kind of videos but it was really bc I'd watch your vids and you cover the industry in a more analytical way.
2:57 she was even on 4th best rapper when she reaalsed princess diana
She became so popular all my friends dressed as he in roblox
This was wonderfully put together.
I'm glad that you mentioned snow Tha product not a lot of people mentioned her. When it comes to female rappers, she's really skilled.
Honestly one of the best rappers that I could think of ❄️❄️
She ok
incredibly skilled. its ridiculous that the people let this kind of mess go on with ice as long as it did!
No white has skills
Awesome rapper and sa-roc and Che Noir Rapsody
Not Miss Poopie☠️😭
17:28 NOBODY, and as a woman I mean NOBODY thought Ice Spice was a girls girl…..
Very good job, young man. Never heard of this page before. My algorithms have vastly different themes. But I just subscribed. Which I don't remember ever doing with this kind of content. But your presence, your delivery, and your overall niceness was very nice to see. Keep up the good work. Many blessings 👊🏿
I'm gonna be brutally honest: i never found her "hot" in any way, i have NO IDEA why people are making such a big deal about how supposedly "hot" she is. When i think of "hot" i think of someone like Dua Lipa (who is also talented, the same can't be said of Ice Spice). Ice, in comparison, is pretty average, which is why i just never understood the hype about her looks. Colorism is a hell of a drug i guess.
Personal taste and culture tends to define what's "hot" to different people. Ice Spice is gorgeous (when she isnt wearing that short curly hairstyle) imo. Her body increases her level of hotness. Dua Lipa is meh to me personally.
That just means you like a specific look. It's not 'brutal', millions of people find Ice absolutely stunning, which is clear by the response she got. Dua Lipa has a thin, athletic rectangular shape, Ice has an exaggerated pear shape with a ton of assets. Very different body types
When I think of hot, I think Salma Hayak.
@@Supre3m3Kaisame lol
Dua lipa is flat and over hyped.
Welcome back bro
Oh damn congrats on 1 mil subs bro
I remember watching your vids over 5 years ago
As a creator, this comment hits hard
Great video. Good job.
Lowkey been waiting for this. Yes I’m THE BIGGEST HATER 😤
Hater*
Same
Same here bc I am sick of her. 😅
@@VOOD13 hes the mad hat(t)er
You aren’t the only one, little orphan Annie is gross 😷 she gotta go!
*People are turned off by the dookie bars… both figuratively and literally.*
😂😂
💯
You not even the fart. Lol
Industry planted. 🌳
There have always been one hit wonders, many of them are industry plants like Miley Cyrus whose father is Billy Ray Cyrus the one-hit-wonder singer of "Achey Breakey Heart" and the goddaughter of Dolly Parton. Most big artists are juiced in - it’s nepotism. They have connections. They aren’t the most talented or skilled or hardworking or even the most attractive. They fit a niche in the way they look and they’re fit into a genre that happens to be very popular. That’s why you’ll find a lot of artists found fame in a new genre and style, after doing something very different before they were "discovered”; producers take the ones they can easily mold like clay, they decide what to make them into, the music (which is usually written by someone else, ghostwriters or professional songwriters. Like the song they bought from a songwriter, recycled from Miley Cyrus, to give it to Jojo Siwa. They decide how they want to use them. Speaking of Jojo Siwa, they orchestrated her entire "breakout" from her songs to her style (she didn’t even know who Gene Simmons was and her whole look was directly drawn from Simmon’s).
Miley was hannah montana we need a better example
So happy you brought up snow tha product as an example!
same!
My girl Snow deserves the recognition, even if she already is known from Bizarrap and interviews with Mexican rappers
@@Josue-mv2fo I just went to her concert on Saturday and she did amazing as per usual!
Ima keep it a buck gang - we been waiting for you to cover the drake and Kendrick Lamar controversy. We need back to back videos of this 😂
This is a waste of time though. Everybody wants to hear everybody trash Drake, but there are already thousands of videos doing this already. There's no need lol.
Omg I love that you mentioned Snow tha Product!!🔥❄️ great breakdown.
i love her music
Dude your videos are fantastic! I like how professional your sound is... but then there's the look, what ate you going for exactly? Hopefully not the same thing everyone else is trying for as well which is to seem "different". Just be yourself and you will blow up! "Blow up" in comparison to where you already are! Good luck and keep up the good work!
She was so pretty and innocent in college 😢
Money is a powerful drug
15:00 the drip is real
Wet like water 😤😤😤
On the highest‼️
the head massager ontop of the cap 😂
@@georgebeckons539omg I loved those head spider things. Totally forgot about em. 😂
I'm glad you're back, bro
The fact she rose up is amazing to me. I haven’t seen any talent from her besides her being willing to show her body.
One of the best breakdowns you have done in a minute, respect
I feel like Blacky has been anticipating this video for a minute
The man took a break, and the videos got better.
This man is amazing! Best UA-camr ever! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
11:57 bruh North looks like Kanye denied her being his daughter, and now she's out to prove a point. They are so identical!
She really took all his genes 😂
Her boo boo colors showing real bad lol
I prayed for times like these
Lmaooo let the hate flow through you 😂
Same
I hate the way that she twerks, the way that she flirts,
I hate the way that she dress, I hate the way that she clout chase if I sold sex I’d be in distress.
The thumbnail pic is diabolical😂
You always make valid points
Chile I def missed the face reveal you popped up I’m like “who is this 🤨” 😂😂😂😂