Alfa Romeo Giulia Stelvio Nightmare oil leak
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Oh come on Neil, we Slavs do jobs like that in one Saturday :D and we all use magic tools from Parkside :)
Nice one haha
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The best cars were produced until around the year 2000 - less complicated, less electronics, more durable (original) quality parts, easy to fix without disassembling everything around.
Totally agree but the giulias are lovely to drive
I feel bad for you. Good luck with that massive job. I feel slightly worried about my Giulia and hope this will not happen to mine.
Fingers crossed
I'm still gonna drive my old 147 2.0 and enjoy life away from expensive maintenance - not 😂
All those cheap old Alfas I had - Spuds, Alfettas, 75's. None of them pissed oil out. Strange!
Holy cow, that does look like quite a bad bit of design, from a mechanic's point of view! Such a shame, today's stuff is so overly-complicated... best of luck Neil, and a TON of patience! :)
As you could tell I was rather shocked how difficult it is to replace rubber seal because Alfa skimped on quality.
@@ItaliaAutos Quite, it became evident as soon as you realised what had to come off in order to reach the damned thing. Looks like our beloved Alfa is indeed skimping on quality control - sad but true.
oil cooler probably made in Germany
There are a lot of things I found on my giulia that is making me think twice about buying an Alfa again. Quality control, warranty claims and customer service being the main ones
Its done on purpose for people to take the cars to the dealership
I've subscribed, this guy's good.
cheers
This is why I love my 1.4 Giulietta. I have room for everything, since it also needed space for a 2.0 diesel.
I also had a guiletta, now a stelvio. guilletta is a toy versus a stelvio. 1.4 multiar 170hp at 200,000 km that drank more oil than gasoline. of my 3 Alfa's the quality is poor, interior plastic, paint weak
Had a nightmare with my 159 Tbi Ti last year, changed the oil and filter and when i ran the car oil was pouring out the small metal pipe on the filter housing/oil cooler, turned out the plastic redirection valve had broke (and it was lost), new oil cooler at £190 and another 4L of Castrol GTX to replace what leaked out, that was an expensive oil change lol.
Ouch
another reason i still have my GTV it might be old but its fairly simple to fix
But the Giulia's ARE lovely cars to drive.
Not very good considering it's age and now out of warranty, good luck with this one Neil.
Modern cars are not designed for people to work on them ..... Nightmare
Top work!
Thanks
Modern cars ! They make them as complicated as possible so you’re inclined to make services dealer only ! At a cost.
It's more of a throw away car now. Most cars are like it now.
I had to do the oil cooler o rings on my c220 merc, a lot more stuff had to come than that to get the cooler off! That one looks easy in comparison!
Just wasn't expecting such a massive task for a previously easy part to get at on older alfas.
Yup... unfortunately this is starting to be an issue on the 2.0s but nothing compared to a valve cover gasket job on the 2.9qv
What should 2.0 owners look into then?
@@JostVice Nothig seroius fortunately. Regular oil changes around 10000kms (VERY VERY importanat because of the multiair filter) and there are some minor issues with the water pumps and coolant leaks on the early models.
Dang. Wonder how it is on the v6.
Sorry about it 😢 interesting end nice video by the way👍🏻💪🏻
Thanks for watching
To remove the rear upper control arm of a 2016 Mazda 3. You have to drop the rear subframe. Like wtf is it with new cars!!
Nightmare!
Always the same now on new cars. A chain of parts that have to be removed before anything can be done.
To true.
Neighbour needed a clutch slave cylinder for his Peugeot 3008... it's inside the gearbox 🙄 so driveshaft, sub frame etc have to come off.... he scrapped the car as the cheapest clutch kit here is 400 euro plus labour and vat. Mechanic said they are a bastard to do as well. Also had a problem with the electric handbrake not releasing and the part is under the pas seat ffs and no guarantee changing it would fix the fault.
It's 2024, there's no more excuses for buying Italian cars.
Had this issue on my 2.0 Stelvio - contacted an independent Alfa expert and he said the issue was that the bolts holding the oil cooler to the engine block will have worked loose and they just needed tightened. My mechanic tightened the bolts he could reach and the problem was solved and has not returned over a year later. That may or may not have worked here but thankfully it worked on mine.
I'm afraid I tried that
The core issue is on some engines bolts not torqued properly during factory assembly. So they work lose, leaks.
Hit or miss if tightening them fixes or not. Perhaps gasket becomes damaged from oil leaking past for long enough. If leak starts small and isn't immediately addressed.
I’ve got the same leak on my 2.0 jtdm 159. There you have two plastic coolant lines with quick connectors. The lines are easy to break. I’m thinking it’s easier and not so much more expensive to change to whole oil cooler housing with the cooler.
Also a darn sight easier to change on the 159
@@ItaliaAutos still I managed to break the plaatic coolant line when I did it. Replaced it with rubber hose and clamps for now. My oil cooler gasket had been leaking for a while, it drops oil straight to the lower engine mount and ruins the rubber bushing.
Please don't complain. Better this type of leak than the rear main seal leak on a Honda Jazz, that is typical of this car.
But you expect that to be a massive job. 🤔
Big job indeed. I wonder how much book time a dealership would charge to change it
Dealer would prob want to remove the engine lol
@@ItaliaAutos More than likely 👍😂
And this is why I always use independent Alfa garages - the main dealer would absolutely fleece me!
Gosh, the 2.0 in the Giulia and Stelvio has to be one of the worst petrol engines put into an Alfa. Nothing but issues and even catastrophic failures I see [part of Alfa facebook groups]. Doesn't even sound good if at all and now to add they are not mechanic friendly to work on.
Yep and the MA engine needs regular oil and filter changes otherwise the engine packs up as well. The oil dripping out of this one looks very dirty!
Isn't that just the way things are with modern stuff
Looks that way.
Wow 😯 £500 gasket 💪ouch
I think this is a problem and common failure point not only confined to Alfas and Fiats. Have heard of it on AUdi/VW cars as well.
Yep they all use cheap components
Love my giulia it's the 2.2 jtd .they've got faults and a mare to work on but they drive beautifully. Best alfa I've owned .would have another especially a veloce or qv
If I didn't have another Giulia that's not a quad I'd go 2.2
@ItaliaAutos just like to say your doing a great job on the channel 👏 love the content
Cheers. Trying to put out more interesting vids rather than weekly boring content.
@@ItaliaAutos are 2.2 diesel giulias reliable? I would love to have one in the future!
What a nightmare!
Did they ever do something to stop them getting stolen via the radar cover?
Not that I'm aware of.
There are stainless steel shrouds available that can be installed over the radar mounting, but no factory fix as far as i'm aware.
If the oil filter was loose, think I would try that bottom right torx bolt a nip up anyway first you never know.
Yeah it was still leaking.
I did one of these oil coolers on a Stelvio. Absolutely night mare of a job, so much stuff had to be removed just to gain access to the 6 x bolts that hold the cooler to the engine block, and such a flimsy pointless rubber gasket seal that looks like it wouldn’t last 5 mins. Only thing I found was 3 bolts at the lower area on the oil cooler were finger tight the other 3 were tight, so did the 3 lower bolts work loose with vibration and allow the cooker to leak out oil.. I had to remove the Catalyst then have the aircon system de gassed to remove the aircon pipes and then all the heat shields around the turbo (nightmare of a job) just why make something so complicated to work on . Bring back the old cars. Please
That's what I worked out would need doing. I was hoping I could do it without de gassing the AC.
@@ItaliaAutos no you have to get the A/C pipes out of the way to gain access to the oil cooler top bolts, so you need to be discharged the A/C system and it’s also the new A/C Gas so it’s not cheap to get the system degassed and recharged again.
Oh well wishful thinking.
@@ItaliaAutos there’s no other way around getting the stupid designed oil cooler off and replaced without degassing the system.
Looks worse than replacing my GTA alternator! Bit of a job Neil.
I don't mind those.
So the older Alfas better to work on ?
Just depends on what goes wrong and what engine. Servicing is loads easier on these.
Not as bad as the Mercedes V12 that to change an £1 oil o-ring in the valley of the V you need to take almost the all engine apart and takes thousands of pounds to do 😂
Ooh sounds fun.
Oww that's gotta hurt (your time and the owners wallet) 😮
It sure will.
So annoying that for a gasket that probably costs a fiver
Modern quality car oil Leak. Seldom seen. What’s the mileage.cheers
Only around 45k if I remember correctly
Quite a shock, and a day for a seal, crickey@@ItaliaAutos
drop the engine mate
Why, oh why, do they design cars like this?!?
Who the hell did that
Why should a relativelly new (and expensive) car leak ?? Can this perhaps be justified by bad use and maintenance??
My 1982 Fiat Ritmo Abarth doesn't leak! My 1991 75 1.800....doesn't leak either !! But even if they would, I' m sure that repairing wouldn't cost much! And , anyway, those are cars of the 70s and 80s.
Modern age of cars it's all made to last 5-10 years max. Throw away generation.
oh dear modern tech
Afraid so
Gran bella porcheria la produzione stellantis.
imagina come e fatta il Tonale.
Lets be honest guys.. before stellantis Alfa was not known for reliability
@@seany8787So they say, but in twenty years and five Alfas I only had one breakdown on a car with 160,000 miles on it (Diff failure on 24 valve 164).
meglio delle Honda, che hanno gli airbags che sono granate a frammenazione (Takata è fallita per questo) oppure che hanno gravissimi problemi di diluizione dell'olio in coppa a causa dell'iniezione diretta (cause collettive in america), e anche meglio delle Toyota cui si spacca l'EGR cooler che Toyota dice a causa del cloro nella benzina... E ovviamente non lo passa in garanzia, in Italia, perché in Cina ha richiamato 900mila veicoli per il medesimo problema. Fiat tutta la vita.
FCA non Stellantis.
Keep the old simple car going, no modern garbage for me.
Eco-terrorists will change your mind sadly, with regulations and spare part availability
why alfas are so full of faults? always been and always will be
In this modern age alfa are far from the worst culprits
Alfaromeo what do you expect 😅you buy a headache