Dude! Install one of those cow scratching posts! I just remembered them and how happy they make cows. They're basically a post with a bunch of brush heads attached for them to rub up against.
Just a bit of caution but we always soak the alfalfa cubes before feeding to horses as they expand like crazy. You would be amazed at the volume if you soaked 3 or 4 in about 6 cups of water. For horses they can be dangerous if fed dry as a choking hazard and as they expand in the stomach, but maybe it's different for cattle.
Can confirm. Working dogs make bad apartment dogs. Not myself, but neighbors. They got a border collie, howled and cried all day long when they were at work (I work from home, so got to listen to this all day long). And when they moved, the sofa they threw out had been torn to shreds.
I live in a subdivision. My neighbor has a Great Pyrenees. That dog barks ALL. NIGHT. LONG. It's just doing what it was bred to do but it's a terrible fit for the place he lives.
Not always true. We live in a townhouse and have both a Pyrenees and a husky. We exercise them a lot. Husky gets anywhere from 3-4 hours of walking a day and Pyr seems content with at least 2 x 40 minutes walks. Now our pyr was almost 4 when we adopted her so maybe age has something to do with it. She was not spayed, full of worms and under weight. We had new neighbors who didn't know we had dogs until 4 months after they moved in. Our neighborhood loves our girls. You can absolutely have working dogs so long as you respect their nature and work them. Many people think golden retrievers are the perfect family dog (and they are while you're home) but many suffer from separation anxiety while you're away and can be quite noisy. If someone wants a dog they don't need to exercise and just want it to lay around the house they shouldn't get a dog no matter the breed.
As someone who have a australian kelpie and a border collie in an appartment. It's fully possible to have those types of dogs in appartments. As long as you give them enough excercise, etc.
I never understood why people get dogs that are ment to be outside. Like ik they are cute but the chances of u getting one that will be okay will small spaces is slim to non
About the puppies: Y'know, after raising bred family dogs from 12-ish weeks old, the best socialised dog I've ever had is my shelter dog who I got at 4 months old. She was with a foster family with 2 older dogs with good social skills. It really makes me rethink how I get my puppies in the future. It's amazing what a great start it gives them!
There is such a huge misconception about dogs and breeds. All dogs possess the instincts needed to guard and protect. Personality is a big factor as is the dog's own understanding of their position and role. Breeds only give the possibility if being suited for a particular activity, doesn't guarantee that they can or will do the job. Dogs dont know they are of a "working class", and the belief that dogs which are classified by humans as such don't feel unfulfilled if they're not put to work. That's not why stress behaviors develop.
I got a Texas Heeler puppy in May. My rescue terrier has been teaching her well! I'm not a spring chicken and I probably wouldn't have gotten such an energetic puppy if not for her.
I had a similar experience. Older dogs REALLY DO THE BEST for a young pack member with training and socialization. I WISH I had an older dog in place when I brought a small puppy home. ARGHHH! I'm looking into training.💗✝️👍😋
@@rebeccatrono3376 That's true, but it also ignores the weather and situations they find themselves in. All dogs are capable of work, but not all dogs are built for human work. A lab wouldn't be near as successful guarding livestock as a maremma, even if only for the coat. A terrier wouldn't have the same impact on wild predators larger than it, despite being even more yappy and territorial. A basenji wouldn't be able to endure the cold nights. Working dogs doesn't mean other dogs can't work, but that the overall package is capable of handling the tasks they were bred for.
yay! i have to admit...at the beginning of the year and last winter when i heard all your goals for the summer and fall seasons...puppy, cattle, tons of work and improvements...then throw in the added cats, i was a little skeptical that it was all going to get done...i mean it was ALOT but im proud to say youre pretty much accomplishing everything, well done Mr. Gold and Mrs Gold. youre a great team. everything is coming along nicely.
I'm a city girl but I LOVE this channel & I'm soooo excited that Morgan & Allison have the Highlanders now. They have expanded their farm so much over the last 2 yrs. And now he's talking about breeding Maremmas in the future. I hope when he's finally ready to harvest one of the cattle, he'll offer the meat for sale. I WILL drive to VT to buy some of that beef! I learn so much from this channel. I can't wait to see how Goldshaw grows & what it becomes over the next 5 yrs.😎
@@willgaukler8979 I had the same dream as Morgan for a few years. Then after watching this channel, I realized even if I come up with the $$ & find the right property, the one thing nobody can do is run a farm alone. You don't need kids, but you've gotta have a spouse/partner, which I don't. So I will continue living vicariously thru Morgan & Allison & keep planning my farm in my head. 😎
@@freedomfighter4990 could always do something smaller, get to know the community and you'll find friends to help you. Folks in smaller villages are usually very helpful. You'll find your own buddy Alfred :)
Please please please can you or your wife try to do a herding call and see if the cows actually come to you? 🤣❤️ imagine if all the geese come instead…
A lot of the points you made about specialized training and breeding with dogs, also apply to service dogs. I think it is a big part of why most program, or owner trained dogs come from breeders. A good breeder is going to place the most right puppy for the job that they can. Where as with a rescue you can’t guarantee that the dog will be able to do what is required.
My service dog is a rescue pit mix who’s owner trained, but I agree with you. With a badly bred dog you never know what health issues and behavioral issues the dog might have
I want to disagree. I have only had rescues. My husky/akita/sheltie mix makes a great chicken guard. She does pretty good with the pig and rabbits as well. My chihuahua is getting there but he loves messing with the chickens and playing too much to really be trusted like the husky mix. There are also people who only use rescues as the service dogs they train. Most of those animals in the Sea World dog shows, come from rescues. Breeding is great to keep track of health risk but that breeding never guarantees the dog's intelligence or the trainer could not be as skilled as previously thought. The hunting dogs that came on the property could easily prove that. Purebred, half arsed training.
@@skullykittie9889 I have only ever had mutts all rehomed and I totally get why someone with a disability serve enough to necessitate a service animal would chose dogs from a breeder for the more reliable temperament and health whereas a rescue is a total gamble and for people who are relying on the dogs for their lives or livelihood that is a really big gamble and many may not have the time or resources available to take that chance. Sure there are tons of great rescue dogs and many that go on to be actors/performers or do service work of some kind but that’s due to wonderful organizations that rehabilitate and train those dogs.
Idk about you but I almost never see pure bred dogs except for severe condition like blindness for example otherwise most choose muts that lack in key points like motives or personality and so on rather then pure breds
I have shipped a lot of animals, specifically kittens, all over the country even costa rica. Though it seems traumatic it is the best way to get your pup across the country. By the time 3 to 4 mo comes, the breeder will have made sure the pup is familiar with the carrier and comfortable in that carrier. The hold of the plane for animals is climate controlled. It is dark and away from the hustle and bustle of human seating and traffic. The journey will take a day. IF you travel out there, the trip back to VT will take days and days (probably nearly a week) prolonging the time the pup will be travelling and contained in a carrier and not learning her new farm. Anyway, your breeder will have her ideas of what would be best. My opinion is based on over 30 years of shipping animals. Good Luck and we all will be looking forward her arrival on the farm.
I disagree. I once traveled with my dog in there and he was completely traumatized. He used to sleep in that carrier, since then he has never even gotten close to it even though our other dog does sleep in it from time to time. And there have been too many accidents of dogs suffocating/freezing/dying of heat stroke in plane bellies and tarmac. I regret not leaving him with one of our children and causing him that trauma. [typo edit]
I think it depends on the airline carrier - some have separate, climate-controlled sections for pets but some just get thrown in general cargo. I had a friend that paid someone to fly with her kitten in the cabin and that worked out well. As long as the puppy fits in a certain sized carrier that fits under the airline seating, this may be a good option if he can't leave the farm to fly himself!
@@peep3616 I'd fly in and out too. All airlines have a separate climate controlled compartments under but sometimes they forget to start it because they don't carry pets all the time and its also used for cargo. Those compartments are dark, no lights, and noisy. My dog is completely traumatized 5 years later. Typo edit
I know everyone has horror stories, but truely they are rare. If you choose to fly out there to accompany the pup back, might as well make a vacation out of it. you are fairly close to Monterey and that would be a nice stay.
Toby Dog is special with a job just for him. He appears to be thriving and is such a happy boy. That is so awesome. No dog or cat should be unhappy. They deserve happiness and lots of love so they can live their best life. You and your Mrs. are doing awesome for Toby Dog and your other animals.
So you can shift dogs on planes but then they are just put in the crate below but you can hire a puppy babysitter that will take the dog and fly with the dog so the dog can sit in the seat below them and it’s way less cruel for the dog and they can give them water and food and play with them and quiet them down when they’re barking compared to like then just being in a crate below I did that with both of my dogs and one of them came from Georgia and the other one came from Arizona and we got wonderful puppy sitter flyers
My rabbit (and his late bondmate) absolutely adore those alfalfa cubes, too! He'll ignore other food in favour of a good cube. It seems like your steer has a similar opinion. I agree with you about the adopt-don't shop vs. breeder debate -- it is often over-simplified. Ethically produced purpose-bred animals have a place just as much as rescue animals should.
Exactly. At the end of the day so long as people do their research and plan on keeping the animal for its entire life I'm completely fine with whatever option works for you
i agree! if someone is getting a breed of animal as a pet, i believe they should donate the same amount of money to a shelter to help a few strays. i personally plan on getting a nice norweigian forest cat, but i also will adopt a stray with it and pay a shelter the same money i paid for my cat so that they can care for several strays as well. :))
@@coagulatedsalts4711 Donating the same amount you paid for a full breed or specifically bred pet to an animal shelter or rescue group/center is a wonderful idea! I’ve both rescued, adopted & purchased pets and I’ve always donated money, food/supplies &/or time to my local shelters & rescues. - Right now all 3 of the dogs in our house are rescues…2 being mine & my husband’s and one being my mom’s who live with us. I say “rescued” rather than “adopted” bc none of them were actually adopted from a shelter or rescue group. But instead we got 2 from a friend who had a small pregnant dog wonder up to her house as people often abandon such dogs near her house. She ended up keeping the mama dog & finding loving homes for all of the puppies…of which we took the last 2 sisters(1 for us & 1 for my mom). Our other dog actually showed up at a another friend’s house very skinny, covered in used motor oil, with cuts/abrasions where a chain/rough collar had been & had obviously been abused bc if you raised your hand or picked up anything resembling a stick he would start shaking, whimpering & trying to hide. As for the used motor oil…he had literally been dunked in it up to the backs of his ears…which is something some unethical dog owner will do as a cheap way to try & control fleas/ticks. But as you can imagine it’s *HORRIBLE* for the dog’s skin & can cause other health problems as it *IS* partially absorbed through the skin as well as the dog licking itself! This is also something commonly done by those who breed dogs for illegal dog fighting. Needless to say we didn’t make any effort to try & find his owners for obvious reasons. Our friend was unable to keep him so we took him. Just 1 month later a man living only half a mile from my friend was arrested & later convicted for illegal dog fighting & 26 counts of animal cruelty & neglect!🤬 Our boy has never showed a drop of aggression in public. Now at home he has never showed aggression towards anyone he has seen us greet or that we have said ok. He barks continuously to let us know when delivery/service people or anyone he doesn’t recognize enter the property but won’t approach them if he is outdoors & not in the fenced in dog run until after we come out & say they are ok…and then he just wants pets. I imagine if anyone ever broke in when we weren’t home & absolutely if someone tried to hurt one of us he would do more than just bark. But thankfully we’ve never had to find out! In cause you are curious…the 2 sisters are some mixture of jack russell or rat terrier(that on is obvious)with either miniature pincher or full size chihuahua plus a dash of dachshund considering how long bodied one sister is. But each only weigh between 6-8lbs & thus are far smaller than most jack russell or rat terriers as those typically weigh between 12-17lbs. However other than ours looking a little long in the body they both look identical to if you shrunk down a smooth coated jack Russell terrier! Same colorings, ears, facial & body shape/structure…just in miniature. They *love* to dig & hunt things just like terriers too!🙄 Just thankful that at least most of their holes are a lot smaller than a regular size terrier! Unless they get our other much larger dog interested as well….although that’s thankfully rare as he hate digging unless he is actively chasing something!😅
Thank you Morgan for emphasizing on the proper lifestyle for an LGD. There are so many LGD breed dogs that get surrendered to be adopted out because they could not provide that for them. It's so sad.
As a preson who has worked at a humane society for three years, about 85 percent of dogs who go to the shelter are there for a reason and need a special someone to cope with their special needs. Im talking about behavior problems, training problems, ect. All my dogs are shelter dogs and i bought my mom an akita from a breeder. And let me tell you she is the best dog in the world. Its not that i dont love my shelter pups but i do with I had dogs that didnt have problems like they all do :/ and unfortunately thats what happens when they arent certain breeds ect. A shelter dog isnt going to do what Toby does thats just the reality. Someone who spends a pretty penny on a pup isnt going to take it to a shelter. Usually what happens is they are from other shelters or from people who have accidental litters and then dont know how to take care of a dog so then it becomes a problem dog and therefore they end up at the shelter.
@@jaydeann3561 A rescue I follow in Memphis, TN just got in a beautiful, purebred Boxer puppy. She broke her front paw and despite spending a pretty penny on her from a breeder her owners opted to surrender her instead. As soon as she heals up she is going to be a fantastic "rescue" dog for someone! They have gotten a myriad of other purebreds over the years. Foster homes make a HUGE difference in the lives of these dogs! Since shelters are a stressful environment, but it's also a bonus when a foster parent is able to teach pup's the basics for their future home.
@@armm1230 of course! I also come from a small town so foster homes arent much of a option for many dog. But like I said most people who spend a pretty penny on pedigree dogs arent going to just go out and surrender them unless there is a problem. In this pips case she had a broken leg/paw which can screw you over. Me on the other hand I personally wouldn't do it but thats just me. My GSP is a pedigree except she is a product of horrid breeding she was born with a genetic defect that resulted in a leg amputation. But she also wasnt bought she was given away. And yes shelter environments are and can be detrimental to dogs and cats. shelters are full of love but are not an environment for animals to live in especially puppies. THats why the majority have anxiety issues, food aggression ect. Like mine
If I were you, I would reconsider road trip with new puppy across the entire country. That’s 4 days of constant turmoil for the puppy in a car where you have little time to socialize with her. Direct overnight flight is much better solution. That way breeder can prep puppy before the flight and pup will sleep through most of it, ready to meet you early in the morning at the airport. It’s stressful either way for the pup, but compare 12-14 hours of stress, most of it during night time with tired and sleepy pup to 4-5 days of stress riding in the back of the car, not being able to make sense of it all.
@@GoldenMechaTiger exactly why I am hesitant to put my dog on a plane I do get the argument however with a proper duvet and regular stops the dog would be ok
@@GoldenMechaTiger There’s always some risk involved with transporting the pup. For some reason you completely ignore risk of getting into a car accident over a 3,200 mile trip and one very tired driver. I don’t know which is a bigger risk.
Thank you so much for addressing the situation about dogs being adopted by people who are ill-equipped for them! My next door neighbor had a border collie (her name was Stella) and they were NOT equipped for it. Stella was in a situation where she had no mental stimulation. The neighbors just threw her into the yard (not a big yard) and never really interacted with her aside from giving her food and water. She was BORED! She would get aggressive whenever she saw someone walk past a window. Thankfully she has been rehomed, but my neighbors got another dog (some kind of mix with what was considered a "discriminated breed" and they only got her for that reason not because they liked her but because she was passed over so many times for her breed) and they've treated that dog the same way they did Stella and this new dog has turned out so much worse (its mutilated rodents, foxes, and another neighbor's cat in addition to being aggressive towards people). People need to realize that sometimes a dog (or any kind of pet for that matter) just might not be a good fit.
I learned that the hard way with a cat. By that, I mean 4 claw swipes and a bite in a blink of an eye on my legs. Turns out the street cats were taunting my cat just outside the window, and I was the only one he could redirect his aggression to. I sadly had to get rid of the cat. At least my christmas cactus is still the best pet I could ever ask for. I could mess up just about everything, and it will still keep growing like a steady weed.
It’s sad, but sometimes even the most experienced dog owners have to give up their pets when they are unequipped to care for them. Your neighbors sound like they need a small dog or something that will be okay in the environment they’re able to provide. They don’t sound like experienced dog owners.
What breed of dog mutilated the cat? A breed of dog good at catching cats would be really useful in my neighborhood with all the cats roaming around killing the birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and whatever else they can sneak up on.
It’s so satisfying to see the cattle closer to the farm and not afraid of you. You seemed a bit afraid of them though and mentioned a worry about them getting too aggressive. Could you talk more about that? I know they have big horns, but I thought they were a chill breed. I had this picture of farmers being able to pet their cows. Is that not accurate?
They are quite chill. But using a person as a scratching post seems insignificant when they’re young and without horns. But as adults with huge horns, it could end up in the person being seriously hurt. Just as an example.
I wouldn't say he is afraid but more so making sure he has the right boundaries and respecting that they are a large animal with horns. No matter how well you know an animal and their temperament, especially a big animal e.g. a cow, you always have to keep the possibilities in your mind.
I used to have this Pygmy goat who got very friendly because he was bottle raised. When he wanted food he would come up to me and buck my ankles. Cute when it’s something tiny like him, not so cute on something bigger than you.
Cows kill more people than dogs, bears and sharks combined every year. They are large animals that can cause a lot of damage even when they don't mean to
So happy that you did extensive research for an ethical breeder. I have always adopted but I also don't need a working dog. I decided a long time ago that if I ever wanted a specific breed, it would be from a well researched breeder. 🙏✌🐜💚
Thirty years after my first pair I got a Texas Heeler puppy for my place. Everything seemed fall into place. My old dog on his way out and my rescue terrier still spry enough to train an active puppy when a litter became available close by ( and I mean close. Just a few miles. I wouldn't have sold a Catahoula cowdog puppy to someone who lived that close. By 4 months it would be dropping by daily to visit) But your point is very valid. Most working dogs haven't been bred as family dogs and often have "bad" habits that would be no concern in a worker but are disqualifying for a house dog. I certainly would not have gotten another Heeler at my age if I didn't have a good working dog to train it.
A 3 or 4 month old maremma could fly in the cabin if it can stay in a crate that fits in a seat, or under a seat. Definitely agree that cargo hold is NOT the place for them.
My Lab puppy was too big for the cabin at 12 weeks. The size and weight limits are quite small, and the extra socialization time with momma and siblings is VERY important.
I'm not certain, but I think it would be too big for that by 4 months, or even 3. The dog I picked up as a 4 month old puppy may have been too large, and it's only 67 pounds as an adult.
All the best with your new lady dog coming soon, look forward to seeing her. This was a most interesting video with plenty of information, not that I do anything but sit in my comfy chair and watch you but I am an 86 old English lady and remember country days of my youth. As youngster I sat with chickens as my only companions in the coop on rainy days.
People who say "he is not a farmer" just coz he did not have cows, are uneducated. My grandparents owned a high-tech hydroponic farm growing Strawberries, Raspberries and Blueberries in Japan and they are 100% farmers.
Working dogs love to work. You can see on Toby's face in each video that he's happy and content with his life. Dogs get a lot of satisfaction from doing the work they're meant to do. Congrats for that and keep doing what you're doing with him.
Also, huskies. I see huskies everywhere in the city being kept in small apartments and it's just cruel. These huskies can't even be trained off leash because they're so erratic. But if they were living on a farm or an open area, they'd do so much better.
Yes, you have to give active dogs the excerise that they need. But as long as you do that, it's no problem having one while living in an appartment. Huskies can have a lot of prey drive, and usually they're not dogs that can run around off leash. At least not unless you've a secure fence.
Huskies really want another dog as a friend. And need a lot of space. Years ago I researched Huskies, because they are so cute and I really wanted one... After the research, I felt keeping a lone Husky in an apartment in a city... That would have been animal cruelty. Those dogs need a pack, a sled to pull, and are complete outside dogs. No way I could have made one happy in my apartment surrounded by asphalt and concrete.
The Highlanders are out of their defensive mode. Spreading more and starting to get curious. Well done! Your more relaxed approach is working. I am really happy for you. Small steps will bring you far.
I'm a dog trainer, and I deal with a LOT of people who buy puppies without doing the research on their breed. From someone in the suburbs, drowning in cattle dogs owned by sedentary people, THANK YOU. I'm saving this video to share with my students. 🙌🏽
I came across your UA-cam randomly due to Facebook. No regrets I love learning and understanding farm life along with you. I knew the cattle would just take time to get use to things. Happy it's going better.
I flew with one of my 12 week old Lab puppies from Los Angeles to Boston a couple of years ago, and it went flawlessly: I crate trained him a bit, drove him around in my car some, and got some "lactating mother dog" pheromone spray for his crate. We stayed in a Motel 6 overnight, and then flew the next morning. He was perfectly fine when we got to Boston. Took him to my niece's place, and his family has bonded perfectly. I could have just shipped him by air, but I wanted to visit them anyway. Taking a dog crate with you is surprisingly cheap. Your breeder will know all about getting a vet inspection and issuing a health certificate before an interstate move. And you are absolutely right about 12+ weeks: Momma dog teaches them so much in that time. They are bitey monsters at 8 weeks!
Your training of Toby so he knows exactly what to do is why you have been so successful with him. Morgan, you have caused this with all of your animals. Good for you as your hard work is showing. I agree with your ethics. May you please take care and stay safe.
I just love this podcast. It's all like grandpa's farm I get to visit. I fell like a kid when I watch. I'm a 78 year woman who visited farms as a child.
Great news. We are setup to get our Maremmas this summer hopefully from Moonacre Maremma's. Rescue option is a key for us in the future. It's unfortunate that Maremmas go to homes that really under estimate what it takes to raise them up for 2 yrs. We are looking forward to having ours this year if it works out. Glad you where able to find one that best suits your needs.
@@ascensionranch3213 Oh ok I misunderstood. Super to hear you found a great breeder to start with a new pup and it will also be great if you can find a rescue that will work for you as your next dog. Win-win-win! ;)
we put cut pool noodles on our steers' horns. easy to spot them from far away (we used orange noodles) and no worries about them getting shot if they got out in the woods during hunting season. and, of course, no pokey pokey with the sharp death sticks attached to their heads. so glad to see everything is going well.
I was waiting for you to call the cows the Clan McCloud. Lmao. It's so great seeing that they're starting to get used to you and the rest of the gang. Watching them come up to you made me want to reach through through phone and pet them...but those horns are scary. Get some tennis balls and put them on the tips🤣🤣.
I never comment on here but I truly love how you made the point about people wanting a dog like Toby and how there is a big population of dogs that need to be adopted into the right home for them. Granted I do not have the same breed of dog that Toby is, but one of my dogs is a Collie, Australian shepherd and Chow Chow mix. He was a hand full as a pup but once I learned what he was mixed with I learned that he needs to be worked mentally and physically everyday. He just turned 9 years old this month. I use to work at a dog spa/kennel and they partnered with shelters. I have seen so many working dogs turned over or just always yelled and screamed at because the owners did not know how handle or deal with what comes with a working dog. They would only get them because they look pretty or they love their coat, when in reality that dog needs a lot more attention than say a small lap dog. Owners would complain that their cattle dogs would nip at their children feet, well that's what they are breed to do. Sorry this is so long but I'm glad you made those points because not everyone understands that a working dog need to work, they can' sit around all day in the house, it's not who they are, it's not their nature. My boy has calmed down a lot in his older age but he still needs that time and space to run and get all that energy out.
My aunt has a rescue maremma who someone who lived in an apartment brought with no idea how big she was going to get and kept her in a cage which lead her to have deformed feet and some mental problems. Since being rescued by my aunt she has recovered and her feet mostley corrected themselves (you will only notice something off when she is running next to other dogs). She is now so happy and full of life (not a working dog) but she follows the other working dogs (2 maremma and 1 cattle) around and thinks she is helping. I really appreciate that you took the time to talk about the importance of the right dog to the right home.
@@yunus.2174 it was the first thing I thought of too 🤷🏽♀️ the age difference is seems to weird if you think about in a human context. In a dog context, super normal. Also, they're not related. That's super not normal. Or healthy
For some people, adoption is best. For others, a breeder is best. It's not just about "adopt, don't shop," it NEEDS to be "adopt or shop responsibly." There are good rescues, and there are bad ones, just like with breeders. Knowing where your animals come from is important, if they're around for a purpose or just a pet. I love the research you've done into the breed, first for Toby and now for your new puppy. I love your plans for any future puppies. You're a great steward for your animals, Morgan. You've shown this time and time again, and we need more people like you.
I really appreciate that even though you mentioned going into puppy breeding, you still make a clear stand on what would ultimately be the best environment for the dog. Every time you take a stance on similar issues it just grows my confidence in you as a role model. Thanks!
Finally, someone of the general public who cares about ethical breeding. Those who push the "adopt don't shop" have a good point, however the dogs ending up in shelters are dogs that were usually bred unethically. Ethical breeders are there for you for your dog's whole life, thus keeping a vast majority of the dogs they produce out of unsuitable homes and thus out of shelters/rescues. Especially when you need a dog for a job, which most people don't, ethical breeding is so important. People breeding high drive working breeds unethically, and putting them in unsuspecting people's homes are the ones driving shelter populations.
I would really recommend getting the pup on the lower end of that range. I don't know whether the breeder has a lot of poultry, but either way, dogs tend to stop their primary imprinting at around 12-14 weeks old, which is why trainers always stress the importance of socialisation whilst young. It's so very much harder after 12 weeks, 14 at the latest. If after 16 or so weeks the puppy hasn't seen the things you will need it to see, you would have to be very lucky to get a functioning working dog. So in terms of being happy in its future home, a little earlier would be ideal for adjustment to you/Toby/the animals and for its future performance too. I'm a service dog owner and trainer, and understand the benefit of a puppy staying with its mother longer than 8 weeks, but it doesn't need to be, nor really should it be, 16 weeks for a working dog puppy. IMHO!
I have to comment about your puppies. I recently found your farm and love what you're doing. However, I own 2 Great Pyrenees and one of my puppies actually came from a working ethical/eco friendly farm. You stated you would "never" send a puppy to a family home without a farm. My male, Remy, was a total LGD drop out. He just did not like being with the farm animals. Despite the fact that both his parents are multi generation LGD dogs. We do live in the country, but our Remy is such a happy house potato. Just some food for thoughts when you start having puppies. Not all puppies are cut out for farm dogs despite their breeding. (My profile pic is my female and she comes from companion animal stock though I think she would have been happy on a farm. Luckily she's happy guarding my kids.)
The white gander staring into the cam at 2.27 seems very serene. I nominate that he be named Serene Dave. He looks like a Dave to me. Regards from Wales.
@@Aaron-uz8xt I had cats for almost 17 years, when they are young they can take that type of interaction since they are super agile but Pablo is 7, he’s not exactly old but he’s Middle Aged, being a little gentler wouldn’t hurt
Agreed, I feel Morgan you need to be a little more careful when handling Pablo. He's not hurting you or Toby dog. I understand your not a cat person but I'm an animal lover and I hate when you do that to Pablo, just be a little more nicer about it, specially on camera.
Morgan’s just a dude who does what makes him happy and tries to do it as best as he can, He not perfects, no ones is but he’s doing his best and he’s doing what makes him happy. That’s all anyone can ever ask for in life
All 8 of our dogs have flown on a plane to come to us here in Boston and we've never had a problem. And all the dogs were perfect when they arrived they are usually on the plane 5 hrs tops if they're coming from California
You and Allison are such thoughtful folks as well as farmers.....you deserve all the success you achieve. You are also a great Teacher, You Tuber and all around great guy. I have enjoyed watching ur Journey and learning from the Challenges you've faced and solved. 👍Tee
Wow, the Pony farm is about 45 min from me! Were all considered Central Valley. Livermore is a small city with surrounding farms, nice area. I just hope you can get a private flight or someone to hold on the plane & not cargo!! Long flight to me!! Congratulations! I volunteered in Bully rescue/adoption with my daughter for several shelters & did myself for about 20yrs so I have seen strays, rescues trained for all sorts of jobs,& really do not care for breeding but I can understand what you need for your farm & your beliefs in that breed. 🤗❤🙏🐾
I'm not sure how big Maremmas are at that age, but you can fly out there and ship them on the same plane you are on if they are too big to ride as carry on with you. There's a lot of resources out there, but it's very dependent on where you are going, what time of year (temps), etc. Ask your breeder. She may have resources
Something I've noted about your videos, Morgan, is that you roam your property and have a really interesting narrative the whole time, not to mention the amusing inserts that are interjected to help illustrate your words...keeps one on their toes...lol. UA-camrs spend a huge amount of precious time editing all the camera work, and it shows especially well on your site...THANK YOU! Lots of animal intel, video at 'animal level' and not just all from your head level, and drone shots. Its just a relaxing, informative, enjoyable 'visit' with you and the gang, Mr. Homesteader. God bless you and your plans. And yes...BE SAFE! : )
Congratulations on your new puppy. I think you are so right to wait an extra month or two to bring her home. I’m anxious to meet her ,but an older pup will adjust to your situation best. Glad the cows are beginning to settle in - they are beautiful. Happy Fall.
My first great pyranees was 4 1/2 months of age before I got her. She’s now huge. She was raised with goats, and I’m on 6 acres in an off grid situation, with a small herd of goats. Now I have three, and three St Bernard’s. My first GP has now trained the st’s to guard the goats, and to watch the herd. My 6 big dogs were all pups when they came to me. I have two geese, a rooster and a duck, and have been so inspired by you and your daily adventures😊 with them.
Congratulations! A new puppy is exciting! Everything is looking great and cohesive on the farm at the moment. Can I say I’m proud of you on your stance of breeding vs adoption. It is an important issue,as a rescuer I am pro adoption. However,I am also pro ethical breeding. There is a place for both.
Been watching some old videos and noticed you mentioning a lot of negative comments - you even made a video about it. So I thought I'd send you some positivity! My GF and I think you're great! Firstly, you are enormously inspirational as a regular guy, who is achieving the dream of living off the land - something I and many others want to do. You're a role model for everything we want to do with our lives. Secondly, you're chock full of personality which makes you great to watch - my GF refers to your channel as a kind of 'duck based soap opera'. I even miss the days when you spoke more about the individual birds, their names, their foibles... Thirdly, you have good values about how to treat animals, providing holistic agriculture and diversity on your farm. It's great to see this promoted and, as a low meat household - nice to hear the 'one bad day' philosophy. Try not to get the bad comments get you down - you're a great inspiration to *potentially* a new generation of homestead farmers. Now get back to the bit we love the most - RELEASE THOSE QUAKEN!
Seeing those cattle warming up to you brought smiles, thanks! You hit the nail on the head discussing spectrums regarding dogs from breeders vs. rescues - and a knowledgeable buyer/adoptor is the best element to increase the chances of success. You are presenting all aspects in the best way and are an excellent example.
I’m so happy for you and Toby!! We have been to Kim’s farm twice- once to pickup our dear Maremma, Juno, and once for our sweet goat Clover. You are in such good hands!! Kim is such an example of how to do things right. She does right by her animals and right by her customers. As a new Maremma owner she was so generously available to me with all my questions and she always had the best interests of the animals first and foremost. Our Juno is worth her weight in gold to us and a big part of that is that she got such a great start at Kim’s. So excited to see your new pup grow and learn. 💗
I don't know if Morgan wants to name them. If he does, they will learn their individual names and come when called. Might be useful to teach the individual to come when called.
@@Sienisota calling as a group would get them in the barn or back on the property if they get out. Really he just needs to befriend the group leader and the rest will follow. But as an individual that would be a little hard because they're a little wild and kinda set in their herd ways. But he is going to need to care for their vaccinations and feet so that's going to be interesting to see. But the second generation will be much tamer and easier to call individually if he starts early.
Omg thank you so so so much for the MSC page! I’ve been searching forever for livestock guardian rescues for our farm because we already run a very broad-spectrum multi-species rescue and we desperately need guardians. We have endless room for more rescues but lack guardians and protectors in a very serious way. I am literally RUNNING to that page lol
If the problem is leaving it to be shipped alone in a kennel in big cargo transport, might it be more viable to find some sort of middleground between the road trip which eats up tons of your time while still keeping the puppy in a box where you can't pay attention to it? I guess you could perhaps use a more small-scale airplane where you could give your full attention to the little pup throughout the god knows how many hours it takes to do that flight. Especially given the success of your UA-cam channel, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have some viewers who would love to take you on a flight across the US while getting to talk to you about all sorts of things.
Do not have the dog shipped! It almost killed our Great Dane! We never could figure out what happened, but the dog arrived nearly lifeless and dehydrated. It took weeks to nurse her to the point where she did not shake when she saw any of us. We know she came from a great breeder because their kennel was on 24/7 cam and we could watch the dog grow until shipping day and we knew it was a healthy and happy puppy!
I started working in a dog grooming salon in March and I have learned SO MUCH about the industries surrounding dogs and pets in less than a year. I see so many poorly bred, poorly trained purebreds come into our shop everyday, so seeing you take the search for your next LGD so seriously and mindfully is like a breathe of fresh air.
Our breeder offers a sky nanny option so someone flies with the puppy in the cabin of the plane, in case it helps to know that exists. Also, don't mow by the bees. That's how my husband ended up in the local newspaper. Bees don't love that noise!
@GoldShawFarm, recommend you take a flight with the puppy. I have traveled before with cats, and you simply put them in their carrier and put them by your feet. The airlines typically charge around $150 fee for having a pet onboard. This will depend on your airline company and how big the puppy is. Recommend calling the airline to ask.
To get the puppy I would probably opt to fly out, rent a vehicle one way and drive it back. Driving there and back is about 2 weeks drive time and layovers. You would hate it.
He might be able to take Amtrak from Vermont (or NY?) to California (at least Los Angeles). Amtrak goes through Albuquerque, for example. Flying would be faster... but maybe Amtrak would have special accommodations for a service puppy :)
The advantages of driving out, no waiting at the airport, no missed flights, no jet lag, no masks or forced poisons into one's blood stream. Drive as long as you can, see the country, stay in a trailer, see national parks on the way. My uncle and aunt drove to Oklahoma from California both ways, drove with a trailer. Easier to have a pet in a trailer than find a motel that will take them. Puppies piddle. Motel isn't going to like that.
@@debbys-abqnm4537 It would take 2 or 3 days from LA to his destination. California is a long state longer than the Great island of England and Scotland. Long drive and without a doubt would be dealing with the Sierras, which are much higher than the piddldy bumps of the east coast. East coast hilly, Sierra tall, get snow and you can't go anywhere. Only one way across those Mts by land. Will need snow chains.
@@Parakeetfriend4215 Another good reason to avoid airports for sure. I've traveled showing dogs and puppies all over the US and there are many Hotels/Motels who are just fine with dogs and puppies staying a night. A pack of paper towels and a can of carpet spray cleaner fits nicely in a road trip car. There's always a walmart or grocery store around to pick some up if needed. Just sayings lots of way to drive cross country with a dog and do it in a reasonable time. :)
Congratulations Toby on your new mate, and the Gold Shaw farm on Acquiring this female puppy, finally❣️We all are so excited for you and I am glad you're going to let the puppy stay with mommy longer because you're right! She will be healthier the longer she stays with mom. Taking a baby to soon from its mom is a terrible thing. Whether it's an animal or a human! I have a sister who breeds A large dog as well similar to the one you're getting and she also finds they do better if they stay longer with the mother before separating them and putting them up for sale. The clients are happier the puppies do well and my sister just now insist on it after years of doing this.. This is GREAT NEWS for you all.... On another subject as winter approaches, I would like to say that you have some of the nicest looking life stock I have seen on any farm. Your keys are just beautiful and large but not too large but they're going to be tough as are your ducks and chickens and the fact that you have allowed them to be open range and have quality food & care of their entire life shows. I would be honored to own or eat anyone of your foul birds!!!!I want you to be proud of yourself because I've been around chickens and geese my whole life and never have I seen such beautiful animals as yours on a farm. Now this would make my sister Jealous to hear me say this because she raises some pretty fancy hybrids but I like yours better LOL. And I know that when it comes to Making the decision between who lives and who becomes "dinner" Will be so difficult for you and I just want you to know that my heart goes out to yours through this process. It will be painful and emotional for you I am sure and some more than others. WE, OURSELVES, have become FAMILIAR & EVEN ATTACHED To some of your geese and chickens and especially ducks with their personalities, so I don't envy you those weeks when you have to make the decisions and people don't like to hear this but I will be praying for you to have the strength and discernment in the process and it people can be kind in their comments to you. Also to "ignore the haters" through that time. Last, just me personally I don't want to see any of the harvesting however if you got someone who did it professionally better than the last people I think you should show that so that people know how it should be done. But otherwise for me I love your animals and I don't want to watch but that's just one opinion over how many thousands of people don't watch you so you do what Morgan does best… Do what YOU THINK IS RIGHT !!!! 👍😊♥️😄❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
Have you considered a “Pony Express” type situation where your viewers sign up for a leg of the trip and hand the new dog off to another? If I did this, I’d have a log of when the dog was picked up, when it had a bathroom break (including 1&2), when it eats and how much-and have that log travel with the dog. Obviously it would need to be in a cage. Need to build in flexibility for bad weather-but if you signed up for the travel that is part of the deal. Each leg should be 4 to 8 hours depending on the person’s ability to drive that long. (Need to remember they’d be driving double that time to get back home.). Just my thoughts...
That would be one confused dog. And what if they lost him? Or just straight up took him. Would you want your grandchild or toddler transported that way? I would probably rent a van or better yet an rv since not all hotels are dog friendly. Talk about precious cargo.
There are rescue organizations who schedule these types of relays, and I have participated in several. Unfortunately, I no longer have the contact information. A relay coordinator works out the route and parses it up into 1-2 hour lengths with designated meeting points for each leg. The dog gets the necessary breaks each time it is passed off to the next transporter. For multi-day relays, the coordinator indicates where the dog needs to overnight, and the last transporter of the day holds it overnight. When the relay is setup, everyone is in a group email, and each transporter adds notes about their leg of the trip, so you can see how the dog is doing and the transporter's experience with the dog. The coordinator can monitor to ensure that the transport is going well.
@@aimeegudgel1668 It's hard to rent a car for one-way trips. They usually want the car returned to where it is rented. It can be done, but it's hard to find.
In the alt community, we do this type of transport all the time. A kid is moving to college 5 states away (west coast here) so you rent a U-Haul trailer, drive the kid and stuff to the meet point, next person takes the next leg putting the kid up for the night, and so on. Been on doing this for 5 decades with people, stuff, and critters. Modern tech makes it much easier. One of my weirdest ones was picking up a family from SeaTac (because I had the car seats needed) and driving them to Blaine, to be met by the next leg of their journey. All at a moments notice because something with their flights got screwed up. Community steps up to help. My service dog came to me this way too since I cannot drive anymore.
Alternative, all the fruits, nuts, flakes, and other various weirdos that don't fit well in modern society. Granola brigade, alphabet mofia, punks, and all of those other derogatory named groups of which I am a proud member.
Your channel is so freaking amazing to me. It reminds me of how I grew up on my families farm out in Northern Oregon. Just brings me this sense of calmness.. it's incredible.
Yay new puppy. I am so happy that everything is going well. I appreciate your honesty and I love how thorough you are when making decisions. THERE ARE TRANSPORTERS THAT TAKE PUPS ACROSS COUNTRY. I watch another dog breeder and she uses it a lot. Don't know if you knew about this or would even consider.
It warms my heart to hear you talk of how you're choosing to pick your guardian dogs and all the ethical practices that go hand in hand with it. I can see your point about not going with a shelter/rescued dog if you want specialized training and respect your choice on that. I also agree that breeding and raising Maremmas that have specialized breeding/training towards working with fowl.
Hi Morgan- What about flying out to get the puppy and then bringing her home with you by plane? I think several airlines allow you to have the puppy with you in a carrier that fits under the seat in front of you. I agree that shipping the puppy by herself is not a good idea.
My grandfather had a bull that I used to ride on and hand feed sugar cookies as a kid. Keep spending time with the cows and take good care of them and they’ll treat you like family in no time!
Thank you so much for what you said about the dogs. I follow Petfinder for Indiana, and what I see a lot is dogs like Great Pyrenees filling some of these shelters. People seem to see them on Farm videos and think they want one. The sad news is that these bigger dogs don't live their best life in cities and towns. People end up surrendering them to shelters because they just can't fulfill the dog's needs. I also see many of these dogs who were farm dogs but were put in shelters because they chased the small farm animals. It's so sad to see such beautiful creatures end up homeless.
I'm really glad to hear your take on the adoption/breeder topic. Can't wait for the honey harvest! You do things so thoughtfully and intentionally and I gotta give you major kudos. You're awesome.
I am very excited for you and your new pup. Thank you for your channel. You help people like me and my husband will be able to start better than without you. :) Keep it up.
Morgan. I would highly recommend you contact some shelters in your area and possibly in California as well. They move dogs from California's overpopulated shelters to high adoption areas all the time. You might be able to get them to transport the new puppy with one of the lots that they're pulling from shelters to save them from euthanasia. That way the puppy would have the company of other dogs, they would be with someone you know is responsible, and they do caravans across the country to move these dogs around frequently.
There are professional animal movers out there that do things like transport show dogs and show horses all around the country who are vetted and insured to do this. Expensive, yes somewhat, but totally worth it if you can't go yourself. You don't have to rely on shelter transport (which could expose a puppy to contagious diseases if mixed in with shelter pets in a move). Honestly, Morgan should just fly out and drive back with the pup. I've done it many many times over the past 30+ years. Each road trip is an ideal bonding time with my new puppy and it's always worked out wonderfully. Sometimes "do-it-yourselfers" just need to do it themselves! :)
For me personally with all the time and effort put into finding this special puppy, I would only trust myself to transport the dog. I read about too many vehicle accidents with professional ground transporters and too many fatal accidents in plane cargo holds. The airline industry right now is even more unreliable in terms of schedules and staffing than it was before the pandemic. To save your valuable time, maybe you could fly to California and then rent, lease or buy a vehicle for the drive back.
The only thing with transporting with shelter dogs is quite a few of them get kennel cough or worse. I volunteered for a great rescue and the transporters usually have a couple different rescues they transported for in one shipment so you don’t know how healthy the puppies/dogs will be when they get there.
We let buffalo and deer munch on the best treat ever to make friends with them and the best treat is salt. They go crazy for that stuff and take very fast
Great news Morgan. So happy for you. You have done a great job researching breeders and making a good selection. Looking over the webpage of the breeder you are getting your girl from looks great. They are doing everything I would be looking for in someone who I'd want to get a puppy from. I've traveled to California, Louisiana, Texas and Oregon to bring puppies back to the midwest with me over the years. Typically it's not too hard to bring a 8-9 week old puppy on the plane with you as long as they fit under the seat. I've used my millage to get first class upgrades to make sure I have more room for the puppy under the seat. I've actually been able to transport 10-13 week old collies under the airplane seat with me (collies are smaller than Maremma pups at 12-14 weeks for sure). All my pups that have flown with me in the plane did wonderfully. However, with COVID, this a LOT harder to do these days. I'd highly suggest fly out and then drive back (rental cars can be taken 1 way for a little more). I've done that too and it would help to have someone else to help you drive, but I've done it by myself. Plan to stop every 4-6 hrs and give yourself time to decompress at a hotel at appropriate times. Good luck getting the little one home. I'm sure you will figure it out. Great job with the shout out to the rescue for those specifically looking for an alternative if they are NOT planning to breed for a specific purpose or someone wants a retired dog that really is ready for those last few years by the fire and is going to be a better companion than a LGD. It's all about the right dog for the right situation. Great job working on the cattle to get them to follow you with the bucket of treats. Again, fastest way to move cattle is SLOWWWLY....
If you can, get some crab apple trees growing next to the fence line you intend the cows to be long term. Crab apples are great producers and low maintenance and cows, horses, goats and chickens LOVE crab apples. Like, come sprinting/screaming for crab apples when they see you brining them a bucket towards the tree kind of love for them. We had a cow that got it's head stuck in the fence trying to get at one of the apples that rolled towards the fence just out of reach. Barely cared, he just wanted the apple. Regular sweet store apples that humans like? They couldn't care any less for them. We found that our chickens produced many more eggs when they were being regularly fed the apples though.
Yay, the cows aren’t running from you! Looking good! Congratulations on the puppy being born. You have been waiting for a long time. May I suggest not shipping the puppy? I have a rescue who as a 10 wk pup who was originally purchased as a designer dog. She was shipped out and experienced trauma of some sort. She was claustrophobic and terrified. It took me a long time to help her get over it. I felt so sorry for her. I am her third owner. People thought she was mean, trainers couldn’t deal with her. She just needed time and now she is happy. I love how much you love all your animals.❤️
Dude! Install one of those cow scratching posts! I just remembered them and how happy they make cows. They're basically a post with a bunch of brush heads attached for them to rub up against.
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Yes! I have seen those. Cows absolutely love them.
Just a bit of caution but we always soak the alfalfa cubes before feeding to horses as they expand like crazy. You would be amazed at the volume if you soaked 3 or 4 in about 6 cups of water. For horses they can be dangerous if fed dry as a choking hazard and as they expand in the stomach, but maybe it's different for cattle.
It’s different for cattle as they aren’t as likely to colic from it
I did see him feed one to doggy in another video though. ...hmmm
I thought cows have like 4 stomachs?
Can confirm. Working dogs make bad apartment dogs. Not myself, but neighbors. They got a border collie, howled and cried all day long when they were at work (I work from home, so got to listen to this all day long). And when they moved, the sofa they threw out had been torn to shreds.
Definitely true; a working dog needs to be outdoors and working.
I live in a subdivision. My neighbor has a Great Pyrenees. That dog barks ALL. NIGHT. LONG. It's just doing what it was bred to do but it's a terrible fit for the place he lives.
Not always true. We live in a townhouse and have both a Pyrenees and a husky. We exercise them a lot. Husky gets anywhere from 3-4 hours of walking a day and Pyr seems content with at least 2 x 40 minutes walks. Now our pyr was almost 4 when we adopted her so maybe age has something to do with it. She was not spayed, full of worms and under weight.
We had new neighbors who didn't know we had dogs until 4 months after they moved in. Our neighborhood loves our girls. You can absolutely have working dogs so long as you respect their nature and work them. Many people think golden retrievers are the perfect family dog (and they are while you're home) but many suffer from separation anxiety while you're away and can be quite noisy.
If someone wants a dog they don't need to exercise and just want it to lay around the house they shouldn't get a dog no matter the breed.
As someone who have a australian kelpie and a border collie in an appartment. It's fully possible to have those types of dogs in appartments. As long as you give them enough excercise, etc.
I never understood why people get dogs that are ment to be outside. Like ik they are cute but the chances of u getting one that will be okay will small spaces is slim to non
About the puppies: Y'know, after raising bred family dogs from 12-ish weeks old, the best socialised dog I've ever had is my shelter dog who I got at 4 months old. She was with a foster family with 2 older dogs with good social skills. It really makes me rethink how I get my puppies in the future. It's amazing what a great start it gives them!
There is such a huge misconception about dogs and breeds. All dogs possess the instincts needed to guard and protect. Personality is a big factor as is the dog's own understanding of their position and role. Breeds only give the possibility if being suited for a particular activity, doesn't guarantee that they can or will do the job. Dogs dont know they are of a "working class", and the belief that dogs which are classified by humans as such don't feel unfulfilled if they're not put to work. That's not why stress behaviors develop.
I got a Texas Heeler puppy in May. My rescue terrier has been teaching her well! I'm not a spring chicken and I probably wouldn't have gotten such an energetic puppy if not for her.
I had a similar experience. Older dogs REALLY DO THE BEST for a young pack member with training and socialization. I WISH I had an older dog in place when I brought a small puppy home. ARGHHH! I'm looking into training.💗✝️👍😋
@@rebeccatrono3376 That's true, but it also ignores the weather and situations they find themselves in. All dogs are capable of work, but not all dogs are built for human work. A lab wouldn't be near as successful guarding livestock as a maremma, even if only for the coat. A terrier wouldn't have the same impact on wild predators larger than it, despite being even more yappy and territorial. A basenji wouldn't be able to endure the cold nights. Working dogs doesn't mean other dogs can't work, but that the overall package is capable of handling the tasks they were bred for.
@@Undomaranel thank you so many people don't understand that point.
yay! i have to admit...at the beginning of the year and last winter when i heard all your goals for the summer and fall seasons...puppy, cattle, tons of work and improvements...then throw in the added cats, i was a little skeptical that it was all going to get done...i mean it was ALOT but im proud to say youre pretty much accomplishing everything, well done Mr. Gold and Mrs Gold. youre a great team. everything is coming along nicely.
I'm a city girl but I LOVE this channel & I'm soooo excited that Morgan & Allison have the Highlanders now. They have expanded their farm so much over the last 2 yrs. And now he's talking about breeding Maremmas in the future. I hope when he's finally ready to harvest one of the cattle, he'll offer the meat for sale. I WILL drive to VT to buy some of that beef! I learn so much from this channel. I can't wait to see how Goldshaw grows & what it becomes over the next 5 yrs.😎
@@freedomfighter4990 ...constantly making improvements to your farm ... your a Boss ...
@@willgaukler8979 I had the same dream as Morgan for a few years. Then after watching this channel, I realized even if I come up with the $$ & find the right property, the one thing nobody can do is run a farm alone. You don't need kids, but you've gotta have a spouse/partner, which I don't. So I will continue living vicariously thru Morgan & Allison & keep planning my farm in my head. 😎
@@freedomfighter4990 could always do something smaller, get to know the community and you'll find friends to help you. Folks in smaller villages are usually very helpful. You'll find your own buddy Alfred :)
@@Tsuchimursu I LOVE that guy! He's like McGuyver's little brother who doesn't wait for a crime to happen before he invents something amazing.
Please please please can you or your wife try to do a herding call and see if the cows actually come to you? 🤣❤️ imagine if all the geese come instead…
Now I just see them both kulning and that sounds absolutely hilarious and badass at the same time. 😂
A lot of the points you made about specialized training and breeding with dogs, also apply to service dogs. I think it is a big part of why most program, or owner trained dogs come from breeders. A good breeder is going to place the most right puppy for the job that they can. Where as with a rescue you can’t guarantee that the dog will be able to do what is required.
My service dog is a rescue pit mix who’s owner trained, but I agree with you. With a badly bred dog you never know what health issues and behavioral issues the dog might have
I want to disagree. I have only had rescues. My husky/akita/sheltie mix makes a great chicken guard. She does pretty good with the pig and rabbits as well. My chihuahua is getting there but he loves messing with the chickens and playing too much to really be trusted like the husky mix. There are also people who only use rescues as the service dogs they train. Most of those animals in the Sea World dog shows, come from rescues. Breeding is great to keep track of health risk but that breeding never guarantees the dog's intelligence or the trainer could not be as skilled as previously thought. The hunting dogs that came on the property could easily prove that. Purebred, half arsed training.
@@skullykittie9889 I have only ever had mutts all rehomed and I totally get why someone with a disability serve enough to necessitate a service animal would chose dogs from a breeder for the more reliable temperament and health whereas a rescue is a total gamble and for people who are relying on the dogs for their lives or livelihood that is a really big gamble and many may not have the time or resources available to take that chance. Sure there are tons of great rescue dogs and many that go on to be actors/performers or do service work of some kind but that’s due to wonderful organizations that rehabilitate and train those dogs.
@@CoartneyGrace please do remember there are more rescues than just the local pound.
Idk about you but I almost never see pure bred dogs except for severe condition like blindness for example otherwise most choose muts that lack in key points like motives or personality and so on rather then pure breds
I have shipped a lot of animals, specifically kittens, all over the country even costa rica. Though it seems traumatic it is the best way to get your pup across the country. By the time 3 to 4 mo comes, the breeder will have made sure the pup is familiar with the carrier and comfortable in that carrier. The hold of the plane for animals is climate controlled. It is dark and away from the hustle and bustle of human seating and traffic. The journey will take a day. IF you travel out there, the trip back to VT will take days and days (probably nearly a week) prolonging the time the pup will be travelling and contained in a carrier and not learning her new farm. Anyway, your breeder will have her ideas of what would be best. My opinion is based on over 30 years of shipping animals. Good Luck and we all will be looking forward her arrival on the farm.
My sister in law ordered baby ducks and chicks that the idiots left to freeze on the tarmac at DIA so not all air travel can be trusted.
I disagree. I once traveled with my dog in there and he was completely traumatized. He used to sleep in that carrier, since then he has never even gotten close to it even though our other dog does sleep in it from time to time. And there have been too many accidents of dogs suffocating/freezing/dying of heat stroke in plane bellies and tarmac. I regret not leaving him with one of our children and causing him that trauma. [typo edit]
I think it depends on the airline carrier - some have separate, climate-controlled sections for pets but some just get thrown in general cargo.
I had a friend that paid someone to fly with her kitten in the cabin and that worked out well. As long as the puppy fits in a certain sized carrier that fits under the airline seating, this may be a good option if he can't leave the farm to fly himself!
@@peep3616 I'd fly in and out too. All airlines have a separate climate controlled compartments under but sometimes they forget to start it because they don't carry pets all the time and its also used for cargo. Those compartments are dark, no lights, and noisy. My dog is completely traumatized 5 years later. Typo edit
I know everyone has horror stories, but truely they are rare. If you choose to fly out there to accompany the pup back, might as well make a vacation out of it. you are fairly close to Monterey and that would be a nice stay.
Toby Dog is special with a job just for him. He appears to be thriving and is such a happy boy. That is so awesome. No dog or cat should be unhappy. They deserve happiness and lots of love so they can live their best life. You and your Mrs. are doing awesome for Toby Dog and your other animals.
So you can shift dogs on planes but then they are just put in the crate below but you can hire a puppy babysitter that will take the dog and fly with the dog so the dog can sit in the seat below them and it’s way less cruel for the dog and they can give them water and food and play with them and quiet them down when they’re barking compared to like then just being in a crate below I did that with both of my dogs and one of them came from Georgia and the other one came from Arizona and we got wonderful puppy sitter flyers
@@bodiepeterson1204 How does your comment apply to mine???
I like turtles
@@CFGossettAbbasHealingArts it doesn’t
@@bodiepeterson1204 : Awesome and so thoughtful of you providing some 'happiness' right from the beginning of your relationship with your dogs .
My rabbit (and his late bondmate) absolutely adore those alfalfa cubes, too! He'll ignore other food in favour of a good cube. It seems like your steer has a similar opinion. I agree with you about the adopt-don't shop vs. breeder debate -- it is often over-simplified. Ethically produced purpose-bred animals have a place just as much as rescue animals should.
Exactly. At the end of the day so long as people do their research and plan on keeping the animal for its entire life I'm completely fine with whatever option works for you
i agree! if someone is getting a breed of animal as a pet, i believe they should donate the same amount of money to a shelter to help a few strays. i personally plan on getting a nice norweigian forest cat, but i also will adopt a stray with it and pay a shelter the same money i paid for my cat so that they can care for several strays as well. :))
Well said.
@@coagulatedsalts4711 Donating the same amount you paid for a full breed or specifically bred pet to an animal shelter or rescue group/center is a wonderful idea!
I’ve both rescued, adopted & purchased pets and I’ve always donated money, food/supplies &/or time to my local shelters & rescues.
- Right now all 3 of the dogs in our house are rescues…2 being mine & my husband’s and one being my mom’s who live with us.
I say “rescued” rather than “adopted” bc none of them were actually adopted from a shelter or rescue group. But instead we got 2 from a friend who had a small pregnant dog wonder up to her house as people often abandon such dogs near her house. She ended up keeping the mama dog & finding loving homes for all of the puppies…of which we took the last 2 sisters(1 for us & 1 for my mom). Our other dog actually showed up at a another friend’s house very skinny, covered in used motor oil, with cuts/abrasions where a chain/rough collar had been & had obviously been abused bc if you raised your hand or picked up anything resembling a stick he would start shaking, whimpering & trying to hide. As for the used motor oil…he had literally been dunked in it up to the backs of his ears…which is something some unethical dog owner will do as a cheap way to try & control fleas/ticks. But as you can imagine it’s *HORRIBLE* for the dog’s skin & can cause other health problems as it *IS* partially absorbed through the skin as well as the dog licking itself! This is also something commonly done by those who breed dogs for illegal dog fighting. Needless to say we didn’t make any effort to try & find his owners for obvious reasons. Our friend was unable to keep him so we took him. Just 1 month later a man living only half a mile from my friend was arrested & later convicted for illegal dog fighting & 26 counts of animal cruelty & neglect!🤬
Our boy has never showed a drop of aggression in public. Now at home he has never showed aggression towards anyone he has seen us greet or that we have said ok. He barks continuously to let us know when delivery/service people or anyone he doesn’t recognize enter the property but won’t approach them if he is outdoors & not in the fenced in dog run until after we come out & say they are ok…and then he just wants pets. I imagine if anyone ever broke in when we weren’t home & absolutely if someone tried to hurt one of us he would do more than just bark. But thankfully we’ve never had to find out! In cause you are curious…the 2 sisters are some mixture of jack russell or rat terrier(that on is obvious)with either miniature pincher or full size chihuahua plus a dash of dachshund considering how long bodied one sister is. But each only weigh between 6-8lbs & thus are far smaller than most jack russell or rat terriers as those typically weigh between 12-17lbs. However other than ours looking a little long in the body they both look identical to if you shrunk down a smooth coated jack Russell terrier! Same colorings, ears, facial & body shape/structure…just in miniature. They *love* to dig & hunt things just like terriers too!🙄 Just thankful that at least most of their holes are a lot smaller than a regular size terrier! Unless they get our other much larger dog interested as well….although that’s thankfully rare as he hate digging unless he is actively chasing something!😅
Same! My rabbits love them
Thank you Morgan for emphasizing on the proper lifestyle for an LGD. There are so many LGD breed dogs that get surrendered to be adopted out because they could not provide that for them. It's so sad.
Indeed👍
As a preson who has worked at a humane society for three years, about 85 percent of dogs who go to the shelter are there for a reason and need a special someone to cope with their special needs. Im talking about behavior problems, training problems, ect. All my dogs are shelter dogs and i bought my mom an akita from a breeder. And let me tell you she is the best dog in the world. Its not that i dont love my shelter pups but i do with I had dogs that didnt have problems like they all do :/ and unfortunately thats what happens when they arent certain breeds ect. A shelter dog isnt going to do what Toby does thats just the reality. Someone who spends a pretty penny on a pup isnt going to take it to a shelter. Usually what happens is they are from other shelters or from people who have accidental litters and then dont know how to take care of a dog so then it becomes a problem dog and therefore they end up at the shelter.
@@jaydeann3561 A rescue I follow in Memphis, TN just got in a beautiful, purebred Boxer puppy. She broke her front paw and despite spending a pretty penny on her from a breeder her owners opted to surrender her instead. As soon as she heals up she is going to be a fantastic "rescue" dog for someone! They have gotten a myriad of other purebreds over the years. Foster homes make a HUGE difference in the lives of these dogs! Since shelters are a stressful environment, but it's also a bonus when a foster parent is able to teach pup's the basics for their future home.
@@armm1230 I adore boxers.
@@armm1230 of course! I also come from a small town so foster homes arent much of a option for many dog. But like I said most people who spend a pretty penny on pedigree dogs arent going to just go out and surrender them unless there is a problem. In this pips case she had a broken leg/paw which can screw you over. Me on the other hand I personally wouldn't do it but thats just me. My GSP is a pedigree except she is a product of horrid breeding she was born with a genetic defect that resulted in a leg amputation. But she also wasnt bought she was given away. And yes shelter environments are and can be detrimental to dogs and cats. shelters are full of love but are not an environment for animals to live in especially puppies. THats why the majority have anxiety issues, food aggression ect. Like mine
If I were you, I would reconsider road trip with new puppy across the entire country. That’s 4 days of constant turmoil for the puppy in a car where you have little time to socialize with her. Direct overnight flight is much better solution. That way breeder can prep puppy before the flight and pup will sleep through most of it, ready to meet you early in the morning at the airport. It’s stressful either way for the pup, but compare 12-14 hours of stress, most of it during night time with tired and sleepy pup to 4-5 days of stress riding in the back of the car, not being able to make sense of it all.
Yeah but at least the puppy isn't likely to die or get lost in the car like happens sometimes with how airlines treat dogs in their cargo
i didn't think of it like that but its a good point! It's gonna be stressful anyways so its better to get it done as soon as possible.
@@GoldenMechaTiger exactly why I am hesitant to put my dog on a plane
I do get the argument however with a proper duvet and regular stops the dog would be ok
@@GoldenMechaTiger There’s always some risk involved with transporting the pup. For some reason you completely ignore risk of getting into a car accident over a 3,200 mile trip and one very tired driver. I don’t know which is a bigger risk.
Aren’t small dogs allowed in the cabin?
Thank you so much for addressing the situation about dogs being adopted by people who are ill-equipped for them! My next door neighbor had a border collie (her name was Stella) and they were NOT equipped for it. Stella was in a situation where she had no mental stimulation. The neighbors just threw her into the yard (not a big yard) and never really interacted with her aside from giving her food and water. She was BORED! She would get aggressive whenever she saw someone walk past a window. Thankfully she has been rehomed, but my neighbors got another dog (some kind of mix with what was considered a "discriminated breed" and they only got her for that reason not because they liked her but because she was passed over so many times for her breed) and they've treated that dog the same way they did Stella and this new dog has turned out so much worse (its mutilated rodents, foxes, and another neighbor's cat in addition to being aggressive towards people). People need to realize that sometimes a dog (or any kind of pet for that matter) just might not be a good fit.
I learned that the hard way with a cat. By that, I mean 4 claw swipes and a bite in a blink of an eye on my legs. Turns out the street cats were taunting my cat just outside the window, and I was the only one he could redirect his aggression to.
I sadly had to get rid of the cat. At least my christmas cactus is still the best pet I could ever ask for. I could mess up just about everything, and it will still keep growing like a steady weed.
A border collie needs mental stimulus like almost no other dog. You can almost play chess with them.
It’s sad, but sometimes even the most experienced dog owners have to give up their pets when they are unequipped to care for them. Your neighbors sound like they need a small dog or something that will be okay in the environment they’re able to provide. They don’t sound like experienced dog owners.
What breed of dog mutilated the cat? A breed of dog good at catching cats would be really useful in my neighborhood with all the cats roaming around killing the birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and whatever else they can sneak up on.
@@StoneE4 High prey-drive dogs like that will kill anything in sight, sounds ill-suited if you want to preserve your squirrels.
It’s so satisfying to see the cattle closer to the farm and not afraid of you. You seemed a bit afraid of them though and mentioned a worry about them getting too aggressive. Could you talk more about that? I know they have big horns, but I thought they were a chill breed. I had this picture of farmers being able to pet their cows. Is that not accurate?
Shake the bucketmake so e noise similar to all ducks go to bed thing except you want them to come to you for inspection
They are quite chill. But using a person as a scratching post seems insignificant when they’re young and without horns. But as adults with huge horns, it could end up in the person being seriously hurt. Just as an example.
I wouldn't say he is afraid but more so making sure he has the right boundaries and respecting that they are a large animal with horns. No matter how well you know an animal and their temperament, especially a big animal e.g. a cow, you always have to keep the possibilities in your mind.
I used to have this Pygmy goat who got very friendly because he was bottle raised. When he wanted food he would come up to me and buck my ankles. Cute when it’s something tiny like him, not so cute on something bigger than you.
Cows kill more people than dogs, bears and sharks combined every year. They are large animals that can cause a lot of damage even when they don't mean to
Toby will benefit from training the puppy as much as the puppy does.
Yes and creepy.
So happy that you did extensive research for an ethical breeder. I have always adopted but I also don't need a working dog. I decided a long time ago that if I ever wanted a specific breed, it would be from a well researched breeder. 🙏✌🐜💚
Thirty years after my first pair I got a Texas Heeler puppy for my place. Everything seemed fall into place. My old dog on his way out and my rescue terrier still spry enough to train an active puppy when a litter became available close by ( and I mean close. Just a few miles. I wouldn't have sold a Catahoula cowdog puppy to someone who lived that close. By 4 months it would be dropping by daily to visit) But your point is very valid. Most working dogs haven't been bred as family dogs and often have "bad" habits that would be no concern in a worker but are disqualifying for a house dog. I certainly would not have gotten another Heeler at my age if I didn't have a good working dog to train it.
A 3 or 4 month old maremma could fly in the cabin if it can stay in a crate that fits in a seat, or under a seat. Definitely agree that cargo hold is NOT the place for them.
My Lab puppy was too big for the cabin at 12 weeks. The size and weight limits are quite small, and the extra socialization time with momma and siblings is VERY important.
I'm not certain, but I think it would be too big for that by 4 months, or even 3.
The dog I picked up as a 4 month old puppy may have been too large, and it's only 67 pounds as an adult.
I've flown a number of puppies in. They do fine. The white noise of the cargo hold seems to sedate them.
All the best with your new lady dog coming soon, look forward to seeing her. This was a most interesting video with plenty of information, not that I do anything but sit in my comfy chair and watch you but I am an 86 old English lady and remember country days of my youth. As youngster I sat with chickens as my only companions in the coop on rainy days.
I'm 22 and I'd also always go out to the chickens to hang out with them when I was on my dad's farm. They're really such lovely little animals. :)
No one can say you're not a farmer now. This changes everything!
People who say "he is not a farmer" just coz he did not have cows, are uneducated. My grandparents owned a high-tech hydroponic farm growing Strawberries, Raspberries and Blueberries in Japan and they are 100% farmers.
@@ShadowMoon878 yohhh thats so cool
Working dogs love to work. You can see on Toby's face in each video that he's happy and content with his life. Dogs get a lot of satisfaction from doing the work they're meant to do. Congrats for that and keep doing what you're doing with him.
Also, huskies. I see huskies everywhere in the city being kept in small apartments and it's just cruel. These huskies can't even be trained off leash because they're so erratic. But if they were living on a farm or an open area, they'd do so much better.
Some people don't do research on breeds of dogs they get the dog cause it's cool 🥴
Huskies are hunters may not be so good on a farm
i absolutely love huskies but i'd would never get one with my current living situation
Yes, you have to give active dogs the excerise that they need. But as long as you do that, it's no problem having one while living in an appartment. Huskies can have a lot of prey drive, and usually they're not dogs that can run around off leash. At least not unless you've a secure fence.
Huskies really want another dog as a friend. And need a lot of space. Years ago I researched Huskies, because they are so cute and I really wanted one...
After the research, I felt keeping a lone Husky in an apartment in a city... That would have been animal cruelty.
Those dogs need a pack, a sled to pull, and are complete outside dogs. No way I could have made one happy in my apartment surrounded by asphalt and concrete.
So happy to hear that Toby dog is getting a wife. He deserves it. His life will be 100% complete once she's there. He will be a wonderful daddy dog.
Congratulations!!!! Love seeing your farm family grow.
The Highlanders are out of their defensive mode. Spreading more and starting to get curious. Well done!
Your more relaxed approach is working. I am really happy for you. Small steps will bring you far.
Seems like you are doing fine with everything. Don't underestimate yourself.
I'm a dog trainer, and I deal with a LOT of people who buy puppies without doing the research on their breed. From someone in the suburbs, drowning in cattle dogs owned by sedentary people, THANK YOU. I'm saving this video to share with my students. 🙌🏽
I came across your UA-cam randomly due to Facebook. No regrets I love learning and understanding farm life along with you. I knew the cattle would just take time to get use to things. Happy it's going better.
I flew with one of my 12 week old Lab puppies from Los Angeles to Boston a couple of years ago, and it went flawlessly: I crate trained him a bit, drove him around in my car some, and got some "lactating mother dog" pheromone spray for his crate. We stayed in a Motel 6 overnight, and then flew the next morning. He was perfectly fine when we got to Boston. Took him to my niece's place, and his family has bonded perfectly. I could have just shipped him by air, but I wanted to visit them anyway. Taking a dog crate with you is surprisingly cheap. Your breeder will know all about getting a vet inspection and issuing a health certificate before an interstate move. And you are absolutely right about 12+ weeks: Momma dog teaches them so much in that time. They are bitey monsters at 8 weeks!
I love how when you were naming the geese, some of them acknowledged you with a head nod.
Your training of Toby so he knows exactly what to do is why you have been so successful with him. Morgan, you have caused this with all of your animals. Good for you as your hard work is showing. I agree with your ethics. May you please take care and stay safe.
Omg Toby Jr! I can't wait to see the puppy!
Lol puppy would be his mating partener.
@@vasudevyadav5809 Tobina. Tobinita. Mrs. Toby. :D
Tabitha dog!
I just love this podcast. It's all like grandpa's farm I get to visit. I fell like a kid when I watch. I'm a 78 year woman who visited farms as a child.
Great news. We are setup to get our Maremmas this summer hopefully from Moonacre Maremma's. Rescue option is a key for us in the future. It's unfortunate that Maremmas go to homes that really under estimate what it takes to raise them up for 2 yrs. We are looking forward to having ours this year if it works out. Glad you where able to find one that best suits your needs.
Yeah great for you! SO happy to hear your found a rescue that will work in your situation. Best of luck with the new addition!
@@LegendHold1 ours are coming from a breeder. We will look to rescues in the future. We already have deposits in place.
@@ascensionranch3213 Oh ok I misunderstood. Super to hear you found a great breeder to start with a new pup and it will also be great if you can find a rescue that will work for you as your next dog. Win-win-win! ;)
@@LegendHold1 thank you.
we put cut pool noodles on our steers' horns. easy to spot them from far away (we used orange noodles) and no worries about them getting shot if they got out in the woods during hunting season. and, of course, no pokey pokey with the sharp death sticks attached to their heads. so glad to see everything is going well.
I was waiting for you to call the cows the Clan McCloud. Lmao. It's so great seeing that they're starting to get used to you and the rest of the gang. Watching them come up to you made me want to reach through through phone and pet them...but those horns are scary. Get some tennis balls and put them on the tips🤣🤣.
I never comment on here but I truly love how you made the point about people wanting a dog like Toby and how there is a big population of dogs that need to be adopted into the right home for them. Granted I do not have the same breed of dog that Toby is, but one of my dogs is a Collie, Australian shepherd and Chow Chow mix. He was a hand full as a pup but once I learned what he was mixed with I learned that he needs to be worked mentally and physically everyday. He just turned 9 years old this month. I use to work at a dog spa/kennel and they partnered with shelters. I have seen so many working dogs turned over or just always yelled and screamed at because the owners did not know how handle or deal with what comes with a working dog. They would only get them because they look pretty or they love their coat, when in reality that dog needs a lot more attention than say a small lap dog. Owners would complain that their cattle dogs would nip at their children feet, well that's what they are breed to do. Sorry this is so long but I'm glad you made those points because not everyone understands that a working dog need to work, they can' sit around all day in the house, it's not who they are, it's not their nature. My boy has calmed down a lot in his older age but he still needs that time and space to run and get all that energy out.
Omg, a second dog on the farm, finally! I'm so happy for you & congratulations!!
Omg a Sececond dog on the farm
finally! l m so happy for you &
Congratulations
My aunt has a rescue maremma who someone who lived in an apartment brought with no idea how big she was going to get and kept her in a cage which lead her to have deformed feet and some mental problems. Since being rescued by my aunt she has recovered and her feet mostley corrected themselves (you will only notice something off when she is running next to other dogs). She is now so happy and full of life (not a working dog) but she follows the other working dogs (2 maremma and 1 cattle) around and thinks she is helping. I really appreciate that you took the time to talk about the importance of the right dog to the right home.
Can't wait to see Toby being a father figure for the puppy in the future
The cats will be good aunties and uncle, too, for all puppies need some supervision! 😆
@@a1e3n49 MY EYES WHY WOUOD U SAY THAT
@@a1e3n49 yes it’s on his tiktok too
@@yunus.2174 it was the first thing I thought of too 🤷🏽♀️ the age difference is seems to weird if you think about in a human context. In a dog context, super normal. Also, they're not related. That's super not normal. Or healthy
For some people, adoption is best. For others, a breeder is best. It's not just about "adopt, don't shop," it NEEDS to be "adopt or shop responsibly." There are good rescues, and there are bad ones, just like with breeders. Knowing where your animals come from is important, if they're around for a purpose or just a pet.
I love the research you've done into the breed, first for Toby and now for your new puppy. I love your plans for any future puppies.
You're a great steward for your animals, Morgan. You've shown this time and time again, and we need more people like you.
I really appreciate that even though you mentioned going into puppy breeding, you still make a clear stand on what would ultimately be the best environment for the dog. Every time you take a stance on similar issues it just grows my confidence in you as a role model. Thanks!
Finally, someone of the general public who cares about ethical breeding. Those who push the "adopt don't shop" have a good point, however the dogs ending up in shelters are dogs that were usually bred unethically. Ethical breeders are there for you for your dog's whole life, thus keeping a vast majority of the dogs they produce out of unsuitable homes and thus out of shelters/rescues. Especially when you need a dog for a job, which most people don't, ethical breeding is so important. People breeding high drive working breeds unethically, and putting them in unsuspecting people's homes are the ones driving shelter populations.
I would really recommend getting the pup on the lower end of that range. I don't know whether the breeder has a lot of poultry, but either way, dogs tend to stop their primary imprinting at around 12-14 weeks old, which is why trainers always stress the importance of socialisation whilst young. It's so very much harder after 12 weeks, 14 at the latest. If after 16 or so weeks the puppy hasn't seen the things you will need it to see, you would have to be very lucky to get a functioning working dog.
So in terms of being happy in its future home, a little earlier would be ideal for adjustment to you/Toby/the animals and for its future performance too. I'm a service dog owner and trainer, and understand the benefit of a puppy staying with its mother longer than 8 weeks, but it doesn't need to be, nor really should it be, 16 weeks for a working dog puppy. IMHO!
It's awesome how much of an responsible animal owner you are !!! Congratulations on the new puppy !!
Eleven minutes of agony until the puppy news! LOL! Yay! A friend for Toby. 💖😃
I find every part of the video enjoyable to be honest...
@@tenebrisdominus1404 Me too but I was just so excited to hear the big news. 👍😃
what a difference! They are doing so much better and getting closer which is AWESOME!!!
I have to comment about your puppies. I recently found your farm and love what you're doing. However, I own 2 Great Pyrenees and one of my puppies actually came from a working ethical/eco friendly farm. You stated you would "never" send a puppy to a family home without a farm. My male, Remy, was a total LGD drop out. He just did not like being with the farm animals. Despite the fact that both his parents are multi generation LGD dogs.
We do live in the country, but our Remy is such a happy house potato.
Just some food for thoughts when you start having puppies. Not all puppies are cut out for farm dogs despite their breeding.
(My profile pic is my female and she comes from companion animal stock though I think she would have been happy on a farm. Luckily she's happy guarding my kids.)
In this era of click bait spiraling out of control on every social media platforms, I absolutely love how your titles are clean and clear !
The white gander staring into the cam at 2.27 seems very serene. I nominate that he be named Serene Dave. He looks like a Dave to me.
Regards from Wales.
I like the way you think and reason out your decisions. You are a kind and thoughtful person who educates himself in a good way.
Pablo suddenly appearing when Morgan was trying to get the dog food ready from the can was hilarious 8D
Too bad Morgan knocked him off the fence so hard. Like, holy cow!
@@seoulalone2420 I thought the same but I never had cats. Seemed rude
@@Aaron-uz8xt I had cats for almost 17 years, when they are young they can take that type of interaction since they are super agile
but Pablo is 7, he’s not exactly old but he’s Middle Aged, being a little gentler wouldn’t hurt
Agreed, I feel Morgan you need to be a little more careful when handling Pablo. He's not hurting you or Toby dog. I understand your not a cat person but I'm an animal lover and I hate when you do that to Pablo, just be a little more nicer about it, specially on camera.
@@tinasoto2384 and off camera.
I never get tired of “release the quackens” and the cows are beautiful
Soon there's going to be a very rambunctious toddler added to your homestead...that's such great news Alison and Morgan...congratulations!!
Lol kids are for some people . It's just that Morgan. Decided not to have kids . So yeah . This person probably wanted them to have kids .
@@mereschiino haha...glad to see someone paying attention...thank you
Morgan’s just a dude who does what makes him happy and tries to do it as best as he can,
He not perfects, no ones is but he’s doing his best and he’s doing what makes him happy.
That’s all anyone can ever ask for in life
All 8 of our dogs have flown on a plane to come to us here in Boston and we've never had a problem. And all the dogs were perfect when they arrived they are usually on the plane 5 hrs tops if they're coming from California
You and Allison are such thoughtful folks as well as farmers.....you deserve all the success you achieve. You are also a great Teacher, You Tuber and all around great guy. I have enjoyed watching ur Journey and learning from the Challenges you've faced and solved. 👍Tee
CONGRATULATIONS!!! How exciting Toby is going to be an amazing big brother!!!!
Well its more like tobys getting a vitch to mate with
Wow, the Pony farm is about 45 min from me! Were all considered Central Valley. Livermore is a small city with surrounding farms, nice area. I just hope you can get a private flight or someone to hold on the plane & not cargo!! Long flight to me!! Congratulations! I volunteered in Bully rescue/adoption with my daughter for several shelters & did myself for about 20yrs so I have seen strays, rescues trained for all sorts of jobs,& really do not care for breeding but I can understand what you need for your farm & your beliefs in that breed. 🤗❤🙏🐾
I'm not sure how big Maremmas are at that age, but you can fly out there and ship them on the same plane you are on if they are too big to ride as carry on with you. There's a lot of resources out there, but it's very dependent on where you are going, what time of year (temps), etc. Ask your breeder. She may have resources
Something I've noted about your videos, Morgan, is that you roam your property and have a really interesting narrative the whole time, not to mention the amusing inserts that are interjected to help illustrate your words...keeps one on their toes...lol. UA-camrs spend a huge amount of precious time editing all the camera work, and it shows especially well on your site...THANK YOU! Lots of animal intel, video at 'animal level' and not just all from your head level, and drone shots. Its just a relaxing, informative, enjoyable 'visit' with you and the gang, Mr. Homesteader. God bless you and your plans. And yes...BE SAFE! : )
Congratulations on your new puppy. I think you are so right to wait an extra month or two to bring her home. I’m anxious to meet her ,but an older pup will adjust to your situation best. Glad the cows are beginning to settle in - they are beautiful. Happy Fall.
My first great pyranees was 4 1/2 months of age before I got her. She’s now huge. She was raised with goats, and I’m on 6 acres in an off grid situation, with a small herd of goats. Now I have three, and three St Bernard’s. My first GP has now trained the st’s to guard the goats, and to watch the herd. My 6 big dogs were all pups when they came to me. I have two geese, a rooster and a duck, and have been so inspired by you and your daily adventures😊 with them.
Congratulations! A new puppy is exciting! Everything is looking great and cohesive on the farm at the moment. Can I say I’m proud of you on your stance of breeding vs adoption. It is an important issue,as a rescuer I am pro adoption. However,I am also pro ethical breeding. There is a place for both.
!00% agree!
Been watching some old videos and noticed you mentioning a lot of negative comments - you even made a video about it. So I thought I'd send you some positivity! My GF and I think you're great! Firstly, you are enormously inspirational as a regular guy, who is achieving the dream of living off the land - something I and many others want to do. You're a role model for everything we want to do with our lives. Secondly, you're chock full of personality which makes you great to watch - my GF refers to your channel as a kind of 'duck based soap opera'. I even miss the days when you spoke more about the individual birds, their names, their foibles... Thirdly, you have good values about how to treat animals, providing holistic agriculture and diversity on your farm. It's great to see this promoted and, as a low meat household - nice to hear the 'one bad day' philosophy. Try not to get the bad comments get you down - you're a great inspiration to *potentially* a new generation of homestead farmers. Now get back to the bit we love the most - RELEASE THOSE QUAKEN!
Seeing those cattle warming up to you brought smiles, thanks! You hit the nail on the head discussing spectrums regarding dogs from breeders vs. rescues - and a knowledgeable buyer/adoptor is the best element to increase the chances of success. You are presenting all aspects in the best way and are an excellent example.
I’m so happy for you and Toby!! We have been to Kim’s farm twice- once to pickup our dear Maremma, Juno, and once for our sweet goat Clover. You are in such good hands!! Kim is such an example of how to do things right. She does right by her animals and right by her customers. As a new Maremma owner she was so generously available to me with all my questions and she always had the best interests of the animals first and foremost. Our Juno is worth her weight in gold to us and a big part of that is that she got such a great start at Kim’s.
So excited to see your new pup grow and learn. 💗
Start calling the cows as your feeding treats. They'll eventually come to you when called, it'll be vary useful in the future.
"All Cows Go To Bed" to get them into the barn in winter
I don't know if Morgan wants to name them. If he does, they will learn their individual names and come when called. Might be useful to teach the individual to come when called.
@@Sienisota calling as a group would get them in the barn or back on the property if they get out. Really he just needs to befriend the group leader and the rest will follow. But as an individual that would be a little hard because they're a little wild and kinda set in their herd ways. But he is going to need to care for their vaccinations and feet so that's going to be interesting to see. But the second generation will be much tamer and easier to call individually if he starts early.
Omg thank you so so so much for the MSC page! I’ve been searching forever for livestock guardian rescues for our farm because we already run a very broad-spectrum multi-species rescue and we desperately need guardians. We have endless room for more rescues but lack guardians and protectors in a very serious way. I am literally RUNNING to that page lol
If the problem is leaving it to be shipped alone in a kennel in big cargo transport, might it be more viable to find some sort of middleground between the road trip which eats up tons of your time while still keeping the puppy in a box where you can't pay attention to it? I guess you could perhaps use a more small-scale airplane where you could give your full attention to the little pup throughout the god knows how many hours it takes to do that flight. Especially given the success of your UA-cam channel, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have some viewers who would love to take you on a flight across the US while getting to talk to you about all sorts of things.
Do not have the dog shipped! It almost killed our Great Dane! We never could figure out what happened, but the dog arrived nearly lifeless and dehydrated. It took weeks to nurse her to the point where she did not shake when she saw any of us. We know she came from a great breeder because their kennel was on 24/7 cam and we could watch the dog grow until shipping day and we knew it was a healthy and happy puppy!
I started working in a dog grooming salon in March and I have learned SO MUCH about the industries surrounding dogs and pets in less than a year. I see so many poorly bred, poorly trained purebreds come into our shop everyday, so seeing you take the search for your next LGD so seriously and mindfully is like a breathe of fresh air.
Our breeder offers a sky nanny option so someone flies with the puppy in the cabin of the plane, in case it helps to know that exists. Also, don't mow by the bees. That's how my husband ended up in the local newspaper. Bees don't love that noise!
@GoldShawFarm, recommend you take a flight with the puppy. I have traveled before with cats, and you simply put them in their carrier and put them by your feet. The airlines typically charge around $150 fee for having a pet onboard. This will depend on your airline company and how big the puppy is. Recommend calling the airline to ask.
To get the puppy I would probably opt to fly out, rent a vehicle one way and drive it back. Driving there and back is about 2 weeks drive time and layovers. You would hate it.
He might be able to take Amtrak from Vermont (or NY?) to California (at least Los Angeles). Amtrak goes through Albuquerque, for example. Flying would be faster... but maybe Amtrak would have special accommodations for a service puppy :)
@@debbys-abqnm4537 Not a good idea. Trains typically won't accommodate a dog that is NOT a true service animal.
The advantages of driving out, no waiting at the airport, no missed flights, no jet lag, no masks or forced poisons into one's blood stream. Drive as long as you can, see the country, stay in a trailer, see national parks on the way. My uncle and aunt drove to Oklahoma from California both ways, drove with a trailer. Easier to have a pet in a trailer than find a motel that will take them. Puppies piddle. Motel isn't going to like that.
@@debbys-abqnm4537 It would take 2 or 3 days from LA to his destination. California is a long state longer than the Great island of England and Scotland. Long drive and without a doubt would be dealing with the Sierras, which are much higher than the piddldy bumps of the east coast. East coast hilly, Sierra tall, get snow and you can't go anywhere. Only one way across those Mts by land. Will need snow chains.
@@Parakeetfriend4215 Another good reason to avoid airports for sure. I've traveled showing dogs and puppies all over the US and there are many Hotels/Motels who are just fine with dogs and puppies staying a night. A pack of paper towels and a can of carpet spray cleaner fits nicely in a road trip car. There's always a walmart or grocery store around to pick some up if needed. Just sayings lots of way to drive cross country with a dog and do it in a reasonable time. :)
Congratulations Toby on your new mate, and the Gold Shaw farm on Acquiring this female puppy, finally❣️We all are so excited for you and I am glad you're going to let the puppy stay with mommy longer because you're right! She will be healthier the longer she stays with mom. Taking a baby to soon from its mom is a terrible thing. Whether it's an animal or a human!
I have a sister who breeds A large dog as well similar to the one you're getting and she also finds they do better if they stay longer with the mother before separating them and putting them up for sale. The clients are happier the puppies do well and my sister just now insist on it after years of doing this.. This is GREAT NEWS for you all....
On another subject as winter approaches, I would like to say that you have some of the nicest looking life stock I have seen on any farm. Your keys are just beautiful and large but not too large but they're going to be tough as are your ducks and chickens and the fact that you have allowed them to be open range and have quality food & care of their entire life shows. I would be honored to own or eat anyone of your foul birds!!!!I want you to be proud of yourself because I've been around chickens and geese my whole life and never have I seen such beautiful animals as yours on a farm. Now this would make my sister Jealous to hear me say this because she raises some pretty fancy hybrids but I like yours better LOL.
And I know that when it comes to Making the decision between who lives and who becomes "dinner" Will be so difficult for you and I just want you to know that my heart goes out to yours through this process. It will be painful and emotional for you I am sure and some more than others. WE, OURSELVES, have become FAMILIAR & EVEN ATTACHED To some of your geese and chickens and especially ducks with their personalities, so I don't envy you those weeks when you have to make the decisions and people don't like to hear this but I will be praying for you to have the strength and discernment in the process and it people can be kind in their comments to you. Also to "ignore the haters" through that time. Last, just me personally I don't want to see any of the harvesting however if you got someone who did it professionally better than the last people I think you should show that so that people know how it should be done. But otherwise for me I love your animals and I don't want to watch but that's just one opinion over how many thousands of people don't watch you so you do what Morgan does best… Do what YOU THINK IS RIGHT !!!!
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Have you considered a “Pony Express” type situation where your viewers sign up for a leg of the trip and hand the new dog off to another? If I did this, I’d have a log of when the dog was picked up, when it had a bathroom break (including 1&2), when it eats and how much-and have that log travel with the dog. Obviously it would need to be in a cage. Need to build in flexibility for bad weather-but if you signed up for the travel that is part of the deal. Each leg should be 4 to 8 hours depending on the person’s ability to drive that long. (Need to remember they’d be driving double that time to get back home.). Just my thoughts...
That would be one confused dog. And what if they lost him? Or just straight up took him. Would you want your grandchild or toddler transported that way? I would probably rent a van or better yet an rv since not all hotels are dog friendly. Talk about precious cargo.
There are rescue organizations who schedule these types of relays, and I have participated in several. Unfortunately, I no longer have the contact information.
A relay coordinator works out the route and parses it up into 1-2 hour lengths with designated meeting points for each leg. The dog gets the necessary breaks each time it is passed off to the next transporter. For multi-day relays, the coordinator indicates where the dog needs to overnight, and the last transporter of the day holds it overnight. When the relay is setup, everyone is in a group email, and each transporter adds notes about their leg of the trip, so you can see how the dog is doing and the transporter's experience with the dog. The coordinator can monitor to ensure that the transport is going well.
Kind of where I was headed…you could one way fly out and drive with the dog and stay in a hotel each night
I honestly don't trust the public enough to do that. Some loser will steal the puppy and ask for a ransom. I'd only do it through a legit service.
@@aimeegudgel1668 It's hard to rent a car for one-way trips. They usually want the car returned to where it is rented. It can be done, but it's hard to find.
Soo glad you’re waiting, and letting mom get the extra lessons in. It makes such a huge difference!!! Bravo! 8 weeks is too early
In the alt community, we do this type of transport all the time. A kid is moving to college 5 states away (west coast here) so you rent a U-Haul trailer, drive the kid and stuff to the meet point, next person takes the next leg putting the kid up for the night, and so on. Been on doing this for 5 decades with people, stuff, and critters. Modern tech makes it much easier.
One of my weirdest ones was picking up a family from SeaTac (because I had the car seats needed) and driving them to Blaine, to be met by the next leg of their journey. All at a moments notice because something with their flights got screwed up.
Community steps up to help.
My service dog came to me this way too since I cannot drive anymore.
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Alternative, all the fruits, nuts, flakes, and other various weirdos that don't fit well in modern society. Granola brigade, alphabet mofia, punks, and all of those other derogatory named groups of which I am a proud member.
What a great thing
Your channel is so freaking amazing to me. It reminds me of how I grew up on my families farm out in Northern Oregon. Just brings me this sense of calmness.. it's incredible.
Yay new puppy. I am so happy that everything is going well. I appreciate your honesty and I love how thorough you are when making decisions. THERE ARE TRANSPORTERS THAT TAKE PUPS ACROSS COUNTRY. I watch another dog breeder and she uses it a lot. Don't know if you knew about this or would even consider.
It warms my heart to hear you talk of how you're choosing to pick your guardian dogs and all the ethical practices that go hand in hand with it. I can see your point about not going with a shelter/rescued dog if you want specialized training and respect your choice on that. I also agree that breeding and raising Maremmas that have specialized breeding/training towards working with fowl.
Hi Morgan- What about flying out to get the puppy and then bringing her home with you by plane? I think several airlines allow you to have the puppy with you in a carrier that fits under the seat in front of you. I agree that shipping the puppy by herself is not a good idea.
Wow! That's Awesome!! You have great plans for your Marammas!! I'm So Glad you found an Ethical Breeder!! Have a Wonderful Week!!😊⚘❤👍
Puppyyyyyyyyy!!!! Really excited for you, allison and toby! 💕💕
My grandfather had a bull that I used to ride on and hand feed sugar cookies as a kid. Keep spending time with the cows and take good care of them and they’ll treat you like family in no time!
How exciting!!!! Yay a companion for TobyDog! 💖
Thank you so much for what you said about the dogs. I follow Petfinder for Indiana, and what I see a lot is dogs like Great Pyrenees filling some of these shelters. People seem to see them on Farm videos and think they want one. The sad news is that these bigger dogs don't live their best life in cities and towns. People end up surrendering them to shelters because they just can't fulfill the dog's needs. I also see many of these dogs who were farm dogs but were put in shelters because they chased the small farm animals. It's so sad to see such beautiful creatures end up homeless.
I'm really glad to hear your take on the adoption/breeder topic. Can't wait for the honey harvest! You do things so thoughtfully and intentionally and I gotta give you major kudos. You're awesome.
I am very excited for you and your new pup. Thank you for your channel. You help people like me and my husband will be able to start better than without you. :)
Keep it up.
very cool to see how instinctive to see the ducks drawn to the cattle area so quickly.
I got fired today, so this video came as just the right time. Your voice is very soothing and calm, and I needed this video.
So happy that Toby’s getting a dog companion. I know that he’s probably technically not lonely but to me it seems he’s alone when he’s up at night.
I'm really excited for the puppy. I also love that your choosing to get the puppy when its a little bit older! I think it will be very beneficial.
Morgan. I would highly recommend you contact some shelters in your area and possibly in California as well. They move dogs from California's overpopulated shelters to high adoption areas all the time. You might be able to get them to transport the new puppy with one of the lots that they're pulling from shelters to save them from euthanasia. That way the puppy would have the company of other dogs, they would be with someone you know is responsible, and they do caravans across the country to move these dogs around frequently.
There are professional animal movers out there that do things like transport show dogs and show horses all around the country who are vetted and insured to do this. Expensive, yes somewhat, but totally worth it if you can't go yourself. You don't have to rely on shelter transport (which could expose a puppy to contagious diseases if mixed in with shelter pets in a move). Honestly, Morgan should just fly out and drive back with the pup. I've done it many many times over the past 30+ years. Each road trip is an ideal bonding time with my new puppy and it's always worked out wonderfully. Sometimes "do-it-yourselfers" just need to do it themselves! :)
For me personally with all the time and effort put into finding this special puppy, I would only trust myself to transport the dog. I read about too many vehicle accidents with professional ground transporters and too many fatal accidents in plane cargo holds. The airline industry right now is even more unreliable in terms of schedules and staffing than it was before the pandemic. To save your valuable time, maybe you could fly to California and then rent, lease or buy a vehicle for the drive back.
@@sjbock 100% agree sjbock..100%
@@sjbock - I'd be more concerned with someone stealing the dog while in transport.
The only thing with transporting with shelter dogs is quite a few of them get kennel cough or worse. I volunteered for a great rescue and the transporters usually have a couple different rescues they transported for in one shipment so you don’t know how healthy the puppies/dogs will be when they get there.
My husband and I love his show! We think what you’ve accomplished is amazing! Toby Dog is THE BEST DOG ever!
We let buffalo and deer munch on the best treat ever to make friends with them and the best treat is salt. They go crazy for that stuff and take very fast
Great news Morgan. So happy for you. You have done a great job researching breeders and making a good selection. Looking over the webpage of the breeder you are getting your girl from looks great. They are doing everything I would be looking for in someone who I'd want to get a puppy from.
I've traveled to California, Louisiana, Texas and Oregon to bring puppies back to the midwest with me over the years. Typically it's not too hard to bring a 8-9 week old puppy on the plane with you as long as they fit under the seat. I've used my millage to get first class upgrades to make sure I have more room for the puppy under the seat. I've actually been able to transport 10-13 week old collies under the airplane seat with me (collies are smaller than Maremma pups at 12-14 weeks for sure). All my pups that have flown with me in the plane did wonderfully. However, with COVID, this a LOT harder to do these days. I'd highly suggest fly out and then drive back (rental cars can be taken 1 way for a little more). I've done that too and it would help to have someone else to help you drive, but I've done it by myself. Plan to stop every 4-6 hrs and give yourself time to decompress at a hotel at appropriate times. Good luck getting the little one home. I'm sure you will figure it out.
Great job with the shout out to the rescue for those specifically looking for an alternative if they are NOT planning to breed for a specific purpose or someone wants a retired dog that really is ready for those last few years by the fire and is going to be a better companion than a LGD. It's all about the right dog for the right situation.
Great job working on the cattle to get them to follow you with the bucket of treats. Again, fastest way to move cattle is SLOWWWLY....
If you can, get some crab apple trees growing next to the fence line you intend the cows to be long term. Crab apples are great producers and low maintenance and cows, horses, goats and chickens LOVE crab apples.
Like, come sprinting/screaming for crab apples when they see you brining them a bucket towards the tree kind of love for them.
We had a cow that got it's head stuck in the fence trying to get at one of the apples that rolled towards the fence just out of reach. Barely cared, he just wanted the apple.
Regular sweet store apples that humans like? They couldn't care any less for them. We found that our chickens produced many more eggs when they were being regularly fed the apples though.
makes me so emotional hearing how much people care about their animals, I wish everyone has this same care and thought put into it
If there was no breeding at all we would lose all the wonderful genetics developed over the centuries.
Yay, the cows aren’t running from you! Looking good! Congratulations on the puppy being born. You have been waiting for a long time. May I suggest not shipping the puppy? I have a rescue who as a 10 wk pup who was originally purchased as a designer dog. She was shipped out and experienced trauma of some sort. She was claustrophobic and terrified. It took me a long time to help her get over it. I felt so sorry for her. I am her third owner. People thought she was mean, trainers couldn’t deal with her. She just needed time and now she is happy. I love how much you love all your animals.❤️
Thank you 🥰