IMO they decided shortly after the Brimstone Sands update (if not before) that their product needed an overhaul to remain viable. I think they have been working on this Aeternum update ever since. Revamps to the main story have been part of every major update for the last 2 years (Aeternum just adds cutscenes) It was all leading up to this. They haven't been focusing on maintaining players because this basically turned into Early Access in their eyes. IMO this was probably the right call although maybe they should have told the players. This is the last chance. I think they'll have a solid roadmap for the next year because they've said they'd be releasing it pretty close to the launch of Aeternum, and then it will all depend on how successful this relaunch goes. The veteran players are only hurting themselves when they complain about Aeternum. Even if the new story content doesn't matter to them it is needed for the long-term success of the game. I'm guessing Amazon is shooting to maintain between 3x-10x that 60k concurrent playerbase they were getting on content releases. Me and many of my friends are coming back for a 3rd "fresh start." I'm going to go slow and enjoy the story this time around instead of trying to be one of the first companies that buys a plot and enters the endgame. I'm sure I'll find a place when I'm ready to join that grind, might as well enjoy the journey.
Issue is that so many players complained about leveling and its shorted so hard. Now since mounts have been aded its even shorten to get from 1->65, and for most tryhards it will be probably single day experience maybe 2 days. And game itself still is in the same spot so it will take 1-2 months to grind everything in a game to the point where you no longer can get anything. All events, buffs and so on are irrelevant when you are already done. Like the first start if you got even stuff that allowed you to craft 550 it was hyped, now when you get 680-700 gear from even you just straight up trash it as it have no chance to be comarable with your gear anymore. There are no exitment from getting gear at that point, and leveling is so fast that you dont even wonder whats on it, unless you need certain node that is build defying. (Like i like to use spear sunder weken effect on weapon so as a group with under lvl we still can kill crazy stuff with 100%uptime of it)
Yeah, preparing for the expansion cash grab, slot and mount cash grab, season cash grab, and wait for it, preparing for the console cash grab, no wonder they haven't made a new OPR map, or anything worth continuing to play, like end game. The end game is broken, the war system, gold distribution and every other system tied into it like taxes, just makes for a giant can't fix it, it's not worth it, Lord of the Rings is coming, why bother situation. You can't blame them for opting to milk.
@@intronizator7713 I think the new raids will create a good gearing up experience. I'm sure there are a lot more raids in the pipeline to help end game. The game is genuinely fun and they desperately needed this restart.
Sharding is a really interesting new feature as it has pretty big implications on resource gathering and the economy. It was always a bit frustrating when wanting to go out and farm to find your routes recently cleared or heavily farmed. As long as they limit how often you can switch, it should be a good feature but if people can just camp a small cluster of nodes on multiple shards, that'll be a problem
the problem with this is nodes are the least likely place to shard. i don’t believe it works like layers where there’s just always 8 layers in every location of the world, instead it only shards the world if there’s loads of players around, meaning nodes will likely never be sharded
@@Oryyytyep I have 3000 hours on the PC version. The game is a gem. If only they can shine the shit out its end game it would would the best MMO by a long shot with Action Combat.
@@nodeflection5827 Perhaps they won't otherwise people would nolife til' they die in front of their PCs lol nah I hope they will after this re-relaunch. It's my belief for now that they've had a update/content drought because of this new builds' development.
Lol I swam exactly 1 time in the beta going from lv1-25 (I quit after I got the rewards, because I plan to return in October) and that was when I spawned in after the intro cutscene lol.
I would like that too, but this is not the case. Hello Games did not basically kick part of their community to the butt so they can please a potential new part of community. Hello Games have been making great game for everyone interested.
@@Scarecr0wn No they didn't. Idk if you remember but Sean Murray and Hello games were once the MOST hated devs in the internet. They hyped up EVERYONE to oblivion and lied about features, performance, scale, just about everything about the NMS. It was a huge mess he in turn was memed to oblivion. But the comeback after years was REAL. They showed passion and grit despite all the hate and threats. And now even you barely know about their nasty past cause of how respected they are now.
@@Oryyyt You don´t get what I am saying man. I am talking about the redemption ark. Once the hell after release settled down, HG simply went into work. And they worked and released updates for everyone and did not exclude some part of the community in order to please different one. The just kept working and pleasing everybody interested. Amazon basically said "fck off" to all PC players for like a year so they can get some sales on consoles. And to be clear, console release is good thing. Gaslighting and ignoring your core community that kept you afloat for over 3 years is not.
@@Scarecr0wn Ah ok. Sorry for misunderstanding. That part I sympathize with. Ngl I avoided this game like a plague back then. lol I'm sure it wasn't their intent and just wanted to update and port the game but they handled it extremely poorly that it left vets nearly if not irreversibly jaded and bitter. I'm planning to jump in as a casual on the 15 cause they seem to fixed some aspects that turned me off in the 1st place and there's just really nothing like it rn. It's obvious how much copium I and many others are huffing. lol
What they should / could do when it comes to the new PvP Area, is an "Albion" like system. Where first, you don't see people's names and two, you can't simply walk there, you enter a portal that takes you to a random spawn in the area, and three, if they really wanted to make it harder and also, there was enough of a player base, you'd also spawn in different "layers" of the same area. That way it's too much of a hassle to actually team up with friends. In Albion, there's a PvP area called "The mists", and that's how it works. There, it's basically impossible to enter a "solo" mist and team up with friends willingly.
Thanks for explaining what it is. I was super confused, as there's not a clear answer to that anywhere. Guess I'll buy Angry Earth when it's on sale next time, because the game really had it's fun parts and I hope there'll be some kind of active player base. We'll see!
For all the bad AGS has done in the last year and I'm not really to optimistic for post-launch; it was nice to see all the new players from console and PC as well asking questions and having a sense of community running around and doing PvP. I will make a new character for the launch and to experience the leveling again, but I just can't really see anything going anywhere with how AGS have mishandled the current version of the game in the last year.
Edit: I was wrong they do add two new endgames mode 10-raid and upscaled bosses. And a open world forced F4A pvp zone. No idea if it is enough. But it is something I might be totally off here, but is this the third time they changed the new player experience? Why not focus on keeping the players, and having endgame. The random mutation of the week is not great. And they really need something to captivate the current playerbase. Roguelike, buildcraft, pvp modes etc. There are tools out there, they just need to figure out what would match the game. I would like better talenttrees, and more abilities to pick from, but also to have active on the bar. Combat animations could also be a bit more crisp. The game got potential, it just miss something, other than players.
It's a one off purchase with no sub. Why would they try and retain players rather than make more sales? This is likely why they rebranded from MMORPG to ARPG, because MMO comes with an expecations of constant end game content drops whereas an ARPG is a game you typically play through, then stop playing. There is no financial incentive to retaining players with their current business model any more than a developer would try and retain players of a single player game.
the player base drops off due to the end game. the end game has no subscription so their cash comes from new players and store purchases both of those come from new players. makes sense. id personally throw a sub on it and fix the end game.
They honestly should have given to expack free to all PC accounts, seeing as consoles are getting it for free as part of the game. They could have made good with the players that had bought it before with cash shop credits or whatever. It's a barrier to entry that they didn't require.
Agreed on the recommendation. The game is defo worth it if you never played it. There is at least 300 hours of fun to be had imo. For 60 bucks it's not a bad price to pay for a game with no p2w or a sub. But for anyone else, it's not worth it. You will just be disappointed.
I like the idea of an anonymous pvp zone if the point is to have a “free for all” zone. they could also have a faction v. faction v. faction zone like a tri-pvp zone like how DAoC used to be
I spontaneously did try the beta solo, I was sick and bored. Surprisingly I did enjoy it quite a bit. I have played NW at launch but quite soon after reaching max level. A friend gifted me the expansion to get me to play again, but I did not play that much (to busy with work mostly). So as it will not cost me anything but some time, I do plan on giving this a try on a new server, not rushing to end game, enjoying the story. Just some relaxed gaming until I get bored with it.
I think I’ll pass. I already had an issue where I left for a while and when I returned, all of my cosmetic purchases and characters were wiped. Customer service, even given all the information they asked for, were unable to retrieve them. Add in the aim ot and I really have no interest in returning.
2 things that still haven't been addressed that prevent me from returning in spite of a lot of seemingly "good" changes: 1.) Chest runs are stupid and should never be a progression path. It's mind-numbing and not fun. Chest runs should never be one of the most efficient means of progress or material collecting. Period. 2.) Chat still, somehow, to this day, sucks absolute balls. There are bugs with the chat system that I had at launch. It's INSANE. Nothing screams "single player first, MMO second" like having such a terrible chat system. Mind-bogglingly bad and buggy. AGS NEEDS to fix this, it's embarrassing!
I'm going to try fresh start i have a couple of lvl 60 , 625 chars , so fresh start will be a blast never touched rise of the angry earth so ill wait :) , glad you gonna cover it baggins
Winning outnumbered fights in NW was one of the best feelings in any game. One factor of being able to do so is that your opponents could miss their shots. Aim lock will remove that factor and that is going to suck so much :( I don't know if I will play it if it remains in launch... Too bad because I was looking forward getting into it again!
Looking forward to the release but you've brought up a good point about the end game rewards being raid and the new pvp section. It kind of cancels out the previous gear if you want to get the best gear as some people may skip others parts. Im excited to start playing in October! Also my thoughts for the aim lock is that for range players its not exactly the best for them as the target is at the main point of the body. Where really you should be aiming for the head. Plus if the enemy player is running you do need to aim it slightly ahead of them to actually get a hit. The aim lock still isnt great anyway but just an observation.
Am I the only one who actually liked that you couldn't swim ? It's realistic. You fall in full armor into the water, you die. It also forces you to uses geography in order to find ways to travel and cross rivers. I thought it was interesting
Wow this review is spot on! Really job well done. Anyways, some comments. I am a player with ~990 hours in the game, most of them on one character. I quit just before RotAE. It was hard for me to play at all, I logged like once a week to chop some wood, but the thought of having to pay once more killed it for me. I did return on the open beta and did have a blast, like a lot of people. I enjoyed the features that I've missed like mounts, and I also greatly appreciated vast improvements in performance. However... Now, you pretty much nailed on the head the thing with new vs returning player stuff. I'm an old school player. I'm very invested in my character. I'm so opposed to an idea that I have to make a new character and do it all over again. And what I find funny is that they've invested so much time into remaking new player experience and main story quest and they're still shit. I've played SWtOR on like 16 characters, because their MSQ was insanely awesome. And here, despite all the improvements AGS made I can't justify playing the second character. Because the story is still the same idiotic linear no choice grind. But I didn't quit on the game. I'm still on the fence. There's still hopium to be had.
The FFA zone is for sure gonna be taken advantage of with groups just staying near each other and trying to play heavy ranged to stay close together. Hope they do some of your suggestions with maybe a random look and unknown names would help, but not remove the whole issue.
Discord ruined any game being able to do this discord will make it possible for people to group up in areas they game won't why I have been saying games should be blocking players from using discord as it can be used almost as a cheat at this point
I'm really hoping they can pull off a realm reborn kind of thing soon. I might not play it again for now but I'll keep following the game til something interesting catches my attention.
The character creation has really ugly presets. When I first played the game last year, I was quite amazed with its graphics, but after playing Throne and Liberty and Black Desert, I can no longer say so. I wish Amazon would stop making the characters ugly and allow us to create the characters we like to see.
Great video Mr. Baggins! I agree, I really hope the remove the target lock. No target lock is one of my favorite things about this game. Too many MMOs rely on it as part of combat 😢
Every single player in my old guilds will not go back if they have auto lock in the game. I will go back if its removed but if they keep it in the game I wont even look at it.
They will most likely remove it from PvP where it just won't lock onto enemy players but will everything else. Also keep in mind, this game is made for NEW players, and with console players in mind as well. If they lose 100 PC players but gain 1000 console players with the lock aim, they're going to keep it in whatever capacity to retain those players.
Opening dedicated Xbox and PS5 servers is actually such a poor choice and they did not learn from their last mistake. The player base has already dropped to all time low, because of that same problem previously, they keep doing world mergers in the past, in hopes that low population servers can mix with a few low pop to make it a high pop, and all low pop servers then lose their territory because they are forced to join a new server and follow their territory. Amazon really wanna squeeze their last effort from having to grab money from players before it dies down, it used to be an 18 dollars game, now when the game is dying, they try to relaunch it as a new game but in reality is just to open up to console platforms, and the price tag is now 67 dollars. So, IMO, i actually see this game going back to all time low pop in just a year's time.
I stopped playing years ago, mainly because of all the bugs/exploits, but I appreciate your honest takes on the game and the updates. I almost checked out the free beta, but didn't find the time. I am pondering giving NW another chance, but I am not impressed with the devs and feel they have insulted pc players so idk. So few decent games out there, and I was so excited about NW and then so disappointed. Your recap at the end reminding viewers about all the improvements over the years was intriguing.
i've said for a while that New World needed a relaunch the way a few other games have and been great after. That being said I really hate the way they treated the PC player base going into this. The one good thing I can say is that we won't have any additional purchases. They really, really, really need to drop a roadmap though giving us some idea what the endgame is going to be. i don't want another Brimstone moment.
bots were even more rampant during the beta, than launch. All resource nodes will be camped by bots 24/7. So at this point they're just beating a dead horse, thats been rotting for over a year.
Also, as a fire staff user, you still benefit by not using it as you can aim abilities better for hitting multiple targets, whereas lock on will limit the aoe to only the most clumped players
The game is an MMO lol no matter what they say. It’s a good update and hopefully AGS doesn’t shit the bed again and show console players what we dealt with for over a year. Playing on the fresh start is the way to go, they will be the most populated
Good vid. For me as someone who spend few hundreds into thousands hours into this game i just really feel the way Amazon goes with New World. Game was so much fun and so much grinding on the start where you need months to get into higher numbers of item level. Then they change it, tried it on fresh start and for what i was doing for months, you can do in 30 - 40 hours. If the game wasnt that much speed up, it still could be fun (at least for me). But when you can craft almost perfect gear without sweat and tears its pointless. Also the FPS i have so much issues on beta. Way worse for me if i compare it to older version of game and dont even speak about comparing to others games (like TnL where is works perfectly). This game has so much potential on start, so much to do but rn is not good enough. Still, good video and have fun in game!
Love your content: I have "stolen" some of your builds from your discord - the soloist is awesome even without all the gear. Love the story telling (story mode) so that is a great update for me. I do agree that the thing they are missing is end game content and wished there were more dungeon/raids in this "update". But one thing I hate is the world tours (the ones where you just loot, not the ones where you do the breeches and loot) we have to use to grab good gear, so this end game gear being locked behind pvp and raid will be nice. Looking forward to fresh start server.
Here's 1 issue that i've found. When you spawn on either one of starting locations, and you wish to join your friend to quest together in other (e.g Spawned in Windsward and wish to quest in Monarch's), you will not be able to. I have tried on 3 characters and didin't work any of the attempts - i was lucky althou to spawn the third time in Windsward but nontheless, it's really dumb and i hope it's gonna be fixed like it's working in Original game right now. But all together, i think im gonna slow level to lv65 and take my time this time of playing, chill with friend and add few thousands more of hours on top of few thousands i already have.
I played briefly at release, and just didn’t find it compelling. But I’ll come back at this re-launch. Seems like a nice overhaul. Hopefully the game can win back some players and they can begin to release regular content.
For the PVP zone, Im less worried about players teaming to not kill each other and significantly more concerned about kill trading/currency farming. With end game drops being the rewards, whats to stop 2 guild members from just killing each other to farm doubloons?
I would come back if they opened up the map and gave us more battlegrounds, also the ownership of territory is worthless to the average player, like housing…
As for PvP island?? The system is actually good, but it's something that players themselves will kill. AGS likes to think people will play fair, but we all know that entire companies will zerg those players that go alone or with one or two friends. Half of NWs problems are the players themselves. Companies like MusketUnion and others that play the game just to bully and ruin other players day. The sheer amount of zerging. The griefing. The exploiters. PvP island is going to be hell
I honestly think all these UA-camrs that are upset about aim lock. We're probably using aimbot software and they're just pissed cuz now everybody is going to have that same option
Well said. AIM lock is in the NDA version that’s coming live in October. Confirmed from several sources. Sadly it does feel like Amazon is just being a for profit publicly traded company. Only let people play 1-30 which is the best experience the game offers. Give aim lock which makes console feel like they can own. Dopamine hit. Milk the console players. They will enjoy it as you said for the first 100 hours or so and get their money worth. Next will be mobile. I really really expect NW mobile in a year. That will be next base to get cash from. I don’t think end game is the focus now or in the future. Anything you can do to pressure to get aim lock out pvp is welcome. Aim assist only. Don’t fundemantly change the best part of this game. We come back for the combat. Not the cinematics. 90% of us skip them as we just want to get to end game lol. 😅
100% agree about their efforts being misdirected, at least for players like myself. 3000 hours. Can't go back for this lol. I do GET why they are doing it, but it's not great for vet PC players. They want the $ & players from consoles, and freshening up the starting experience makes sense for that. Also as a primarily PVP player, the new zone is still a disappointment. We want more PVP content we can do with friends, and this just feels lazy to me. More maps, modes, etc., for instanced PVP would be great. The big question is, are they going to finally start improving the endgame experience and adding a LOT more content there? Obviously I doubt this severely at this point. They have shown time and time again that they are disconnected from what makes a successful endgame MMO, willingly or not.
im watching these videos to make sure they didn't like, completely screw the game or anything with this update. Even if its just mostly the same with cutscenes on console, i'm ok with rebuying for that. New World had a great economic model (buy as a full game. the ESO route.) and a very pretty and fun aesthetic that i'd happily run through again.
IMO they decided shortly after the Brimstone Sands update (if not before) that their product needed an overhaul to remain viable. I think they have been working on this Aeternum update ever since. Revamps to the main story have been part of every major update for the last 2 years (Aeternum just adds cutscenes)
It was all leading up to this. They haven't been focusing on maintaining players because this basically turned into Early Access in their eyes. IMO this was probably the right call although maybe they should have told the players. This is the last chance. I think they'll have a solid roadmap for the next year because they've said they'd be releasing it pretty close to the launch of Aeternum, and then it will all depend on how successful this relaunch goes.
The veteran players are only hurting themselves when they complain about Aeternum. Even if the new story content doesn't matter to them it is needed for the long-term success of the game. I'm guessing Amazon is shooting to maintain between 3x-10x that 60k concurrent playerbase they were getting on content releases.
Me and many of my friends are coming back for a 3rd "fresh start." I'm going to go slow and enjoy the story this time around instead of trying to be one of the first companies that buys a plot and enters the endgame. I'm sure I'll find a place when I'm ready to join that grind, might as well enjoy the journey.
Issue is that so many players complained about leveling and its shorted so hard. Now since mounts have been aded its even shorten to get from 1->65, and for most tryhards it will be probably single day experience maybe 2 days. And game itself still is in the same spot so it will take 1-2 months to grind everything in a game to the point where you no longer can get anything. All events, buffs and so on are irrelevant when you are already done. Like the first start if you got even stuff that allowed you to craft 550 it was hyped, now when you get 680-700 gear from even you just straight up trash it as it have no chance to be comarable with your gear anymore. There are no exitment from getting gear at that point, and leveling is so fast that you dont even wonder whats on it, unless you need certain node that is build defying. (Like i like to use spear sunder weken effect on weapon so as a group with under lvl we still can kill crazy stuff with 100%uptime of it)
Yeah, preparing for the expansion cash grab, slot and mount cash grab, season cash grab, and wait for it, preparing for the console cash grab, no wonder they haven't made a new OPR map, or anything worth continuing to play, like end game. The end game is broken, the war system, gold distribution and every other system tied into it like taxes, just makes for a giant can't fix it, it's not worth it, Lord of the Rings is coming, why bother situation. You can't blame them for opting to milk.
@@intronizator7713not true
@@intronizator7713 I think the new raids will create a good gearing up experience. I'm sure there are a lot more raids in the pipeline to help end game. The game is genuinely fun and they desperately needed this restart.
Sharding is a really interesting new feature as it has pretty big implications on resource gathering and the economy. It was always a bit frustrating when wanting to go out and farm to find your routes recently cleared or heavily farmed. As long as they limit how often you can switch, it should be a good feature but if people can just camp a small cluster of nodes on multiple shards, that'll be a problem
the problem with this is nodes are the least likely place to shard. i don’t believe it works like layers where there’s just always 8 layers in every location of the world, instead it only shards the world if there’s loads of players around, meaning nodes will likely never be sharded
I just love the game mechanics and environment so much, i am going to play this as long as the servers are online.
Same. They say it's good solo so I don't mind. Runescape x darksouls(at home) lezzgo!
@@Oryyytyep I have 3000 hours on the PC version. The game is a gem. If only they can shine the shit out its end game it would would the best MMO by a long shot with Action Combat.
@@nodeflection5827 Perhaps they won't otherwise people would nolife til' they die in front of their PCs lol nah I hope they will after this re-relaunch. It's my belief for now that they've had a update/content drought because of this new builds' development.
u need help lol
My God, get help yall. you deserve a better partner to dance with.
Swimming in new world? omg I have stepped into a new realm of possibilities, I took a break from NW but I think it is time I returned.
Lol I swam exactly 1 time in the beta going from lv1-25 (I quit after I got the rewards, because I plan to return in October) and that was when I spawned in after the intro cutscene lol.
same, haven't played in years
I'd love this to be the new "No Man's Sky" story. I'll give it another shot.
I respect the fck out of Hello Games. It's just a shame I'm not a big sci-fi gamer. NW is more my jam and I hope to God they pull a NMS so badly. 😭🙏🙏🙏
I would like that too, but this is not the case. Hello Games did not basically kick part of their community to the butt so they can please a potential new part of community. Hello Games have been making great game for everyone interested.
@@Scarecr0wn No they didn't. Idk if you remember but Sean Murray and Hello games were once the MOST hated devs in the internet. They hyped up EVERYONE to oblivion and lied about features, performance, scale, just about everything about the NMS. It was a huge mess he in turn was memed to oblivion. But the comeback after years was REAL. They showed passion and grit despite all the hate and threats. And now even you barely know about their nasty past cause of how respected they are now.
@@Oryyyt You don´t get what I am saying man. I am talking about the redemption ark. Once the hell after release settled down, HG simply went into work. And they worked and released updates for everyone and did not exclude some part of the community in order to please different one. The just kept working and pleasing everybody interested. Amazon basically said "fck off" to all PC players for like a year so they can get some sales on consoles. And to be clear, console release is good thing. Gaslighting and ignoring your core community that kept you afloat for over 3 years is not.
@@Scarecr0wn Ah ok. Sorry for misunderstanding. That part I sympathize with. Ngl I avoided this game like a plague back then. lol I'm sure it wasn't their intent and just wanted to update and port the game but they handled it extremely poorly that it left vets nearly if not irreversibly jaded and bitter. I'm planning to jump in as a casual on the 15 cause they seem to fixed some aspects that turned me off in the 1st place and there's just really nothing like it rn. It's obvious how much copium I and many others are huffing. lol
What they should / could do when it comes to the new PvP Area, is an "Albion" like system. Where first, you don't see people's names and two, you can't simply walk there, you enter a portal that takes you to a random spawn in the area, and three, if they really wanted to make it harder and also, there was enough of a player base, you'd also spawn in different "layers" of the same area. That way it's too much of a hassle to actually team up with friends. In Albion, there's a PvP area called "The mists", and that's how it works. There, it's basically impossible to enter a "solo" mist and team up with friends willingly.
What a terrible idea. Are you a NW Dev?
Thanks for explaining what it is. I was super confused, as there's not a clear answer to that anywhere. Guess I'll buy Angry Earth when it's on sale next time, because the game really had it's fun parts and I hope there'll be some kind of active player base. We'll see!
It's basically a rebranding of a 3 year old game to a new console action RPG.
$60 for at least 300h of content is a steal. New players can spend that much time in the game easy
Damnit baggins you going to make me play this again. They need to hire you as their PR director
That new pvp zone give dark zone vibes from division. I am for it. i assume no grouping would just get rid of zerging which is a good idea.
For all the bad AGS has done in the last year and I'm not really to optimistic for post-launch; it was nice to see all the new players from console and PC as well asking questions and having a sense of community running around and doing PvP. I will make a new character for the launch and to experience the leveling again, but I just can't really see anything going anywhere with how AGS have mishandled the current version of the game in the last year.
KEY WORD "LAST YEAR" lol
@@happyface3937 key word "IN THE last year"
Edit: I was wrong they do add two new endgames mode 10-raid and upscaled bosses. And a open world forced F4A pvp zone.
No idea if it is enough. But it is something
I might be totally off here, but is this the third time they changed the new player experience?
Why not focus on keeping the players, and having endgame.
The random mutation of the week is not great.
And they really need something to captivate the current playerbase.
Roguelike, buildcraft, pvp modes etc. There are tools out there, they just need to figure out what would match the game.
I would like better talenttrees, and more abilities to pick from, but also to have active on the bar.
Combat animations could also be a bit more crisp.
The game got potential, it just miss something, other than players.
Easier to fool new players than trying to fool existing players yet again
It's a one off purchase with no sub. Why would they try and retain players rather than make more sales? This is likely why they rebranded from MMORPG to ARPG, because MMO comes with an expecations of constant end game content drops whereas an ARPG is a game you typically play through, then stop playing. There is no financial incentive to retaining players with their current business model any more than a developer would try and retain players of a single player game.
Oh did they rebrand it? Yeah well retain players would also make more sales imo. But I get what you are saying@@Jallenbah
Also GW2?
goes to show the game needed more time in the oven to be properly "finished", imagine if we got this game back in 2021.
the player base drops off due to the end game.
the end game has no subscription
so their cash comes from new players and store purchases
both of those come from new players.
makes sense.
id personally throw a sub on it and fix the end game.
Im actually impressed by the work they have done on consoles, this gonna be a good game for starting console players that they will definitely enjoy.
They honestly should have given to expack free to all PC accounts, seeing as consoles are getting it for free as part of the game. They could have made good with the players that had bought it before with cash shop credits or whatever. It's a barrier to entry that they didn't require.
Agreed on the recommendation. The game is defo worth it if you never played it. There is at least 300 hours of fun to be had imo. For 60 bucks it's not a bad price to pay for a game with no p2w or a sub. But for anyone else, it's not worth it. You will just be disappointed.
No pay to win!? The game will have bots flooded in every server in no time
@@thanuestudent_4555 wtf….
@@thanuestudent_4555 Bro, there is no p2w in this game. No matter how much u gear up, a good pvp player can beat you NAKED.
Sooo do you recommend it or not?😂 make up your mind lmao
At LEAST 300 hours. If you want to level up weapons and gathering skills fully and max your gear score, you can easily get over 1000 hours
I can't even deny it, if you have never played this game before it is an EXTREMELY good deal for minimum 300 hours of fun.
These new servers will be merged into 1 once the player base drops. Which it always does.
I like the idea of an anonymous pvp zone if the point is to have a “free for all” zone. they could also have a faction v. faction v. faction zone like a tri-pvp zone like how DAoC used to be
God I was hyped for this before but the sum at the end of the vid of what you get for 60 bucks has me HYPED! Can’t wait to jump on Xbox. Followed
As an OG pc player I wish I could experience the game the first time with the new changes.
only roadmap will tell if ill comeback to the game for more than a week or two or leave it be until real content will be added
if amazon shits the bed again there wont be a future of this game, they went down to 4 digit players TOTAL before the update
Imagine if new world was like this at launch.
I don’t think much would change in terms of drop off for the player base .. the end game PvP is still lacking.. and same with pve
What in beta, it was in alpha, much worse.
Auto lock in PvP? Endless combat exploits going unfixed? Same opr map as close to original release?
I spontaneously did try the beta solo, I was sick and bored. Surprisingly I did enjoy it quite a bit. I have played NW at launch but quite soon after reaching max level. A friend gifted me the expansion to get me to play again, but I did not play that much (to busy with work mostly). So as it will not cost me anything but some time, I do plan on giving this a try on a new server, not rushing to end game, enjoying the story. Just some relaxed gaming until I get bored with it.
I think I’ll pass.
I already had an issue where I left for a while and when I returned, all of my cosmetic purchases and characters were wiped. Customer service, even given all the information they asked for, were unable to retrieve them.
Add in the aim ot and I really have no interest in returning.
No cosmetics are account wide
@@nicolasmeunier6915 Well, I purchased a few and used them on multiple characters. Maybe check your facts? As well as the twitch drops. So…
For console, new world will be a good game.
And for PC it already is a good game
@@braedenhorton ehhhhhhhhh
@@Hunterbw93 how many hours have you put in on PC?
2 things that still haven't been addressed that prevent me from returning in spite of a lot of seemingly "good" changes:
1.) Chest runs are stupid and should never be a progression path. It's mind-numbing and not fun. Chest runs should never be one of the most efficient means of progress or material collecting. Period.
2.) Chat still, somehow, to this day, sucks absolute balls. There are bugs with the chat system that I had at launch. It's INSANE. Nothing screams "single player first, MMO second" like having such a terrible chat system. Mind-bogglingly bad and buggy. AGS NEEDS to fix this, it's embarrassing!
I'm going to try fresh start i have a couple of lvl 60 , 625 chars , so fresh start will be a blast never touched rise of the angry earth so ill wait :) , glad you gonna cover it baggins
Great video Baggins. Always appreciate your New World coverage.
I love fresh start, let's go again :D
Winning outnumbered fights in NW was one of the best feelings in any game. One factor of being able to do so is that your opponents could miss their shots. Aim lock will remove that factor and that is going to suck so much :( I don't know if I will play it if it remains in launch... Too bad because I was looking forward getting into it again!
I started on Pc on launch and I took a time over with NW. I was really confused with this new update, thanks for the explanation!
Mom New Baggins Video Dropped!
Solid informative video good sir.
Looking forward to the release but you've brought up a good point about the end game rewards being raid and the new pvp section. It kind of cancels out the previous gear if you want to get the best gear as some people may skip others parts.
Im excited to start playing in October!
Also my thoughts for the aim lock is that for range players its not exactly the best for them as the target is at the main point of the body. Where really you should be aiming for the head. Plus if the enemy player is running you do need to aim it slightly ahead of them to actually get a hit. The aim lock still isnt great anyway but just an observation.
Well-reasoned and balanced coverage. I'm glad vets are still giving their thoughts on the game, in spite of AGS seeming to close their ears.
Am I the only one who actually liked that you couldn't swim ? It's realistic. You fall in full armor into the water, you die. It also forces you to uses geography in order to find ways to travel and cross rivers. I thought it was interesting
Okay, but if you were naked you still couldn't swim😮
Loved the beta, and can't wait to join you all in Oct.
Wow this review is spot on! Really job well done.
Anyways, some comments.
I am a player with ~990 hours in the game, most of them on one character. I quit just before RotAE. It was hard for me to play at all, I logged like once a week to chop some wood, but the thought of having to pay once more killed it for me. I did return on the open beta and did have a blast, like a lot of people. I enjoyed the features that I've missed like mounts, and I also greatly appreciated vast improvements in performance. However...
Now, you pretty much nailed on the head the thing with new vs returning player stuff. I'm an old school player. I'm very invested in my character. I'm so opposed to an idea that I have to make a new character and do it all over again. And what I find funny is that they've invested so much time into remaking new player experience and main story quest and they're still shit. I've played SWtOR on like 16 characters, because their MSQ was insanely awesome. And here, despite all the improvements AGS made I can't justify playing the second character. Because the story is still the same idiotic linear no choice grind.
But I didn't quit on the game. I'm still on the fence. There's still hopium to be had.
Playing this game again on a new character just because of the updated story and voice acted lines, I think that is so cool
I wasn't coming back. But this soundtrack is so appealing.
I haven't played NW in 8 months due to real world issues. I can't wait to get back into the game.
I just wish they had included the flail in one of the archetypes/"classes" you could pick from the beginning.
The FFA zone is for sure gonna be taken advantage of with groups just staying near each other and trying to play heavy ranged to stay close together.
Hope they do some of your suggestions with maybe a random look and unknown names would help, but not remove the whole issue.
Discord ruined any game being able to do this discord will make it possible for people to group up in areas they game won't why I have been saying games should be blocking players from using discord as it can be used almost as a cheat at this point
@@lj555551voice chat has existed looong before discord. Vent and team speak functioned the same way before discord too over.
This is the closet game to the perfect MMO. Best mmo combat by far, all it needs is a healthy player base and more content! Hope we get that.
New player here. Switching to PC next month, definitely gonna pick this up as my first MMO that I sink time into! Cannot wait, very excited
if you'd like to try another mmo I'd highly recommend playing World of Warcraft Classic on pc
Teaming in the PvP zone will create very interesting dynamics and situations too me
Call the people in the PvP Zone - Mysterious Stranger - just like Albion online “Mists”
mhmmm this beta,
I'm really hoping they can pull off a realm reborn kind of thing soon. I might not play it again for now but I'll keep following the game til something interesting catches my attention.
It's okay, you already bought the game, you aren't AGSs target audience anyway 🤣
Game needed players more than it needed content for 10kPC players. IF they pull this off I'll be back. Hoping the roadmap comes out right away.
If only New World launched like this. I still think the player limit per server would be too restrictive for the launch tho.
The character creation has really ugly presets. When I first played the game last year, I was quite amazed with its graphics, but after playing Throne and Liberty and Black Desert, I can no longer say so. I wish Amazon would stop making the characters ugly and allow us to create the characters we like to see.
Great video Mr. Baggins! I agree, I really hope the remove the target lock. No target lock is one of my favorite things about this game. Too many MMOs rely on it as part of combat 😢
If they add more endgame pvp il be back
The entire PVP island not count?
@@SkainAfanger not enough when you played since beta 2021 but sounds good, need new OPR modes and maps, arena maps, and more pvp in general
@@FeelMyBicepp Yeah I agree 🤣🫡 Insane how theres still only 1 opr map....
"End Game" bottlenecked into only 2 activities WITH weekly timegates? That's wild my guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Every single player in my old guilds will not go back if they have auto lock in the game. I will go back if its removed but if they keep it in the game I wont even look at it.
This is for pvp only ofc
They will most likely remove it from PvP where it just won't lock onto enemy players but will everything else. Also keep in mind, this game is made for NEW players, and with console players in mind as well. If they lose 100 PC players but gain 1000 console players with the lock aim, they're going to keep it in whatever capacity to retain those players.
I had a blast playing the open beta on xbox series x, Felt and looked great!. super excited for the launch.
This Aimbot thingy -> they are just braindead
As a console new player this will be great!! Can't wait to play
It was okay... I'll be jamming on it.
Opening dedicated Xbox and PS5 servers is actually such a poor choice and they did not learn from their last mistake. The player base has already dropped to all time low, because of that same problem previously, they keep doing world mergers in the past, in hopes that low population servers can mix with a few low pop to make it a high pop, and all low pop servers then lose their territory because they are forced to join a new server and follow their territory. Amazon really wanna squeeze their last effort from having to grab money from players before it dies down, it used to be an 18 dollars game, now when the game is dying, they try to relaunch it as a new game but in reality is just to open up to console platforms, and the price tag is now 67 dollars. So, IMO, i actually see this game going back to all time low pop in just a year's time.
Please add SEA server already , This game has so much potential.
I stopped playing years ago, mainly because of all the bugs/exploits, but I appreciate your honest takes on the game and the updates. I almost checked out the free beta, but didn't find the time. I am pondering giving NW another chance, but I am not impressed with the devs and feel they have insulted pc players so idk. So few decent games out there, and I was so excited about NW and then so disappointed. Your recap at the end reminding viewers about all the improvements over the years was intriguing.
i've said for a while that New World needed a relaunch the way a few other games have and been great after. That being said I really hate the way they treated the PC player base going into this. The one good thing I can say is that we won't have any additional purchases. They really, really, really need to drop a roadmap though giving us some idea what the endgame is going to be. i don't want another Brimstone moment.
Since I dont have pay to play the new update im gonna try it out. Hopefully it goes well this time.
No idea why, but I love Fresh Start. Can't wait
We have swimming finally. Now we just need boats.
I enjoyed the Beta it kept me playing all weekend so I will definitely play when it releases on console.
bots were even more rampant during the beta, than launch. All resource nodes will be camped by bots 24/7. So at this point they're just beating a dead horse, thats been rotting for over a year.
I was against the aim lock at first but since they won’t ban actual aim bots may as well give it to everyone
This.
Also, as a fire staff user, you still benefit by not using it as you can aim abilities better for hitting multiple targets, whereas lock on will limit the aoe to only the most clumped players
The game is an MMO lol no matter what they say. It’s a good update and hopefully AGS doesn’t shit the bed again and show console players what we dealt with for over a year. Playing on the fresh start is the way to go, they will be the most populated
I really don't understand why swimming is sooooooo damn important to people.
It's not but it just feels bad not being able to in a game.
Makes getting around some areas easier. Shortcuts
Good vid. For me as someone who spend few hundreds into thousands hours into this game i just really feel the way Amazon goes with New World. Game was so much fun and so much grinding on the start where you need months to get into higher numbers of item level. Then they change it, tried it on fresh start and for what i was doing for months, you can do in 30 - 40 hours. If the game wasnt that much speed up, it still could be fun (at least for me). But when you can craft almost perfect gear without sweat and tears its pointless.
Also the FPS i have so much issues on beta. Way worse for me if i compare it to older version of game and dont even speak about comparing to others games (like TnL where is works perfectly).
This game has so much potential on start, so much to do but rn is not good enough. Still, good video and have fun in game!
The Aim Lock Bot on PVP kills it all for me ☠️
i have a lot of worries, but will at the very least play the whole story from start to finish. after that ill see what i see.
Love your content: I have "stolen" some of your builds from your discord - the soloist is awesome even without all the gear. Love the story telling (story mode) so that is a great update for me. I do agree that the thing they are missing is end game content and wished there were more dungeon/raids in this "update". But one thing I hate is the world tours (the ones where you just loot, not the ones where you do the breeches and loot) we have to use to grab good gear, so this end game gear being locked behind pvp and raid will be nice.
Looking forward to fresh start server.
Here's 1 issue that i've found. When you spawn on either one of starting locations, and you wish to join your friend to quest together in other (e.g Spawned in Windsward and wish to quest in Monarch's), you will not be able to. I have tried on 3 characters and didin't work any of the attempts - i was lucky althou to spawn the third time in Windsward but nontheless, it's really dumb and i hope it's gonna be fixed like it's working in Original game right now. But all together, i think im gonna slow level to lv65 and take my time this time of playing, chill with friend and add few thousands more of hours on top of few thousands i already have.
I will say new world aeternum has the best controller keybindings in any game I’ve ever played.
The biggest reason I stopped playing WOW was best gear being locked behind raids. Looks like I won't be around much longer in this game either.
A $30 crossplay update is crazy
They added Keyboard and mouse support for console
the lord of the rings online waiting room
I played briefly at release, and just didn’t find it compelling. But I’ll come back at this re-launch. Seems like a nice overhaul. Hopefully the game can win back some players and they can begin to release regular content.
FFA Island was/is/will be a stupid ass decision. Should have spent that development time on new OPR map and ranked 2v2, 3v3, 5v5.
For the PVP zone, Im less worried about players teaming to not kill each other and significantly more concerned about kill trading/currency farming. With end game drops being the rewards, whats to stop 2 guild members from just killing each other to farm doubloons?
I’m just waiting for Throne & Liberty
I would come back if they opened up the map and gave us more battlegrounds, also the ownership of territory is worthless to the average player, like housing…
As for PvP island?? The system is actually good, but it's something that players themselves will kill.
AGS likes to think people will play fair, but we all know that entire companies will zerg those players that go alone or with one or two friends.
Half of NWs problems are the players themselves. Companies like MusketUnion and others that play the game just to bully and ruin other players day.
The sheer amount of zerging. The griefing. The exploiters.
PvP island is going to be hell
Almost got me to come back lol 😂😂😂
I played the console beta and loved it.
Story is also what being new players to the game
I honestly think all these UA-camrs that are upset about aim lock. We're probably using aimbot software and they're just pissed cuz now everybody is going to have that same option
Ill be buying it looks fun
Well said. AIM lock is in the NDA version that’s coming live in October. Confirmed from several sources. Sadly it does feel like Amazon is just being a for profit publicly traded company. Only let people play 1-30 which is the best experience the game offers. Give aim lock which makes console feel like they can own. Dopamine hit. Milk the console players. They will enjoy it as you said for the first 100 hours or so and get their money worth. Next will be mobile. I really really expect NW mobile in a year. That will be next base to get cash from. I don’t think end game is the focus now or in the future. Anything you can do to pressure to get aim lock out pvp is welcome. Aim assist only. Don’t fundemantly change the best part of this game. We come back for the combat. Not the cinematics. 90% of us skip them as we just want to get to end game lol. 😅
Great conclusion
I really enjoyed playing beta
Aimbot in PVP means New World is a closed chapter for me.
100% agree about their efforts being misdirected, at least for players like myself. 3000 hours. Can't go back for this lol. I do GET why they are doing it, but it's not great for vet PC players. They want the $ & players from consoles, and freshening up the starting experience makes sense for that. Also as a primarily PVP player, the new zone is still a disappointment. We want more PVP content we can do with friends, and this just feels lazy to me. More maps, modes, etc., for instanced PVP would be great.
The big question is, are they going to finally start improving the endgame experience and adding a LOT more content there? Obviously I doubt this severely at this point. They have shown time and time again that they are disconnected from what makes a successful endgame MMO, willingly or not.
im watching these videos to make sure they didn't like, completely screw the game or anything with this update. Even if its just mostly the same with cutscenes on console, i'm ok with rebuying for that. New World had a great economic model (buy as a full game. the ESO route.) and a very pretty and fun aesthetic that i'd happily run through again.
I'm not convinced they have fixed the underlying issues I had with the game.
when you said 2021 again and shown all the new stuff made me think about restarting just because i don't want to sort my storage
NWDB is showing overall player numbers again but not per server.