When you stack enough damage from all these sources you just feed your super and transcendent and on the warlock those are so so powerful! DIM Link & Mobalytics Written Guide: mobalytics.gg/destiny-2/profile/e3c045ba-2dae-49fb-839f-c20d5c4f3099/builds/6c708841-406c-4ec5-85c2-bd697ccdd493
Heads up for this build, if you have star eater scales try not to pop super if your helion is up as ignitions from the super are enhanced by star eaters, but if helion is scorching it’ll overwrite your increased damage as the original source is not part of your super
for anyone wondering, the total poison damage done by spirit of the necrotic is about 45% that of the necrotic grip exotic. so it's about half as strong, but considering you get a whole other exotic perk, seems like a pretty solid trade-off
@@tthVRR resilience then discipline are the most important ones. after that probably recovery or strength, and intellect and mobility dont really matter
The thing is, though, Thorn has nothing to do with necromancy. It more has to do with cannibalism, in a way, since Yor devoured other Guardian's Light after killing them with a Light devouring weapon, that was Thorn. It's okay though, it's not like you're the only Guardian to either confuse or not understand the lore.
I've been a casual player since D1 and never really looked up or paid much attention to builds. But this season I've tried all your warlock builds and they've changed the game for me. Love them all and can't wait try this one. I was using an ok Volatile build prior to this season. Love that it makes everything just go boom. Wish there was a good prismatic volatile build.
I am absolutely astounded by your ability to cook so hard every day on multiple classes cause your builds are really fun and awesome. Love your stuff. Do you think that balance of power could have a viable build just theoretically?
I am glad you like them and thank you for watching Yes for sure! I think the best way to use it is with Combination blow because it's just infinite dodge/clones. You would slot it in to the same Punchy hunter build I did as my second video this season instead of renewals
@salemfnix1824 only spawns one clone per initial dodge and doesn't spawn more on multi dodge. You have wait for your dodge to get off cool down for another clone to spawn.
So I don't have any godroll necrotic class item rolls yet. BUT I did have a very interesting one. Necrotic/Verity. Which turns the exact weapon loadout you were using into a neutral monster. Indebted Kindness with Voltshot can stack up Death Throes so quickly on a trash mob. Which makes Storm grenades hit SO hard. Been running these fragments Dominance (duh) Grace (duh) Awakening (lets you make ionic traces with Indebted Kindness and Storm nades, feeding all ability regen) Hope (having basically permanent uptime on Devour, makes it so you get your class ability and Hellion back about every 10 seconds) Courage (gives you melee/grenade wombo combo and also lets you get bonus super damage if you use your melee before popping super) But now I really wanna make space for Facet of Dawn because of this video. Relying on orbs and the artifact mod for Radiant is lowkey annoying.
I tried to do a similar build to this a few days ago, but Spirit of Necrotic was stopping the strand melee from triggering Unraveling Rounds or Devour. Might have to try it again.
I have the same issue. Makes Spirit of Necrotic sort of unsuable in nightfalls etc. Thought I was going crazy, I've used Arcane Needle to pierce barrier ever since Final Shape dropped - and now apparently it's not even supposed to?? Devour is also very unstable.
@@axvic I think I figured it out. It won't work with anything that requires power melee final blows because the poison is being recognized as the final blow. So it unravels the target, but won't work with the fragment that gives Unraveling Rounds or count as an ability kill for Devour.
Yo thanks for this man! I saw this vid when you released it and then i ran the exotic class mission and got that exact roll first try, spirit of necrotic and star eater. I forgot your vid and just rewatched it and now i knew not deleting it was the best decision!!
Thaaaaaaank you. Jumping into warlock after mostly ever playing hunter; I like videos that can just show me how to hit the ground running. Customizing is an extremely fun part of D2, but I also don't always have time to meticulously read through every exotic, every trait, ability, and fragments. Appreciate stuff like this.
I ran a very similar build (no arc grenade, bleak watcher instead of hellion) for the whole legendary final shape campaign. I was astounded at how well necrotic grips paired with prismatic. Made Final Shape the easiest legendary campaign I ran yet. Basically I could just chuck melees and then run around trying not to die while adds died and it recharged. Great video. Thanks for making it.
On my first exotic class item drop I got Necrotic Grips + Star Eaters. That was literally the exact roll I was looking for and it is so busted - not just for add clear but for dps as well. Will definitely be trying this build out with that class item.
See I would be running this build, but Outbreak cooks in Glassway this week. Especially when you have 3 lol. But will try this build out soon since I love necrotic grips
Also syntho does not increase the dot of the melee. It does take the melee damage from 24k to 65k. Might help proccing devour. I would suggest to go for star eater between syntho and star eater
I feel like lingering DOT just outright gives more transcendence. Outbreak ramps this up quickly too. As well as the new area denial gl ramping your dark bar in no time
What in the world is going on at 2:09. It looks like the chain lightning melee is thrown at the end of the super… but he’s got Needle equipped. Am I tripping?
Cool, I was just looking for a reason to grind the Thorn catalyst. And as much as I'm enjoying my Getaway Artist + Hellion combo, they don't really leave a lot of room for your guns to do anything but supplement your damage.
what i find really funny and also grants dark transcendence with super is that the incinerator snaps apply necrotic grip, which should also increase single target damage by quite a bit
Personally I think Star eater. It gives you really good boss dps and the extra bit of melee damage you get just doesn’t seem totally worth the loss to me. Definitely helps with consistency with triggering devour though!
I had a Strand build with Thorn and Necrotic that cooked through Onslaught last season. I've been trying to figure out if there is a Prismatic I could run that would be similar. I'll give this a go. Thanks
Plunder this is the strongest build I’ve ever used on warlock prismatic. If they fix the bug to necrotic, it’s over. Get away artist is fantastic but this, my friend. This is a birth of a meta. More people need to try this. 25 minute solo GM with this.
On this build, my guess is you're throwing out more melee's than supers. It also looks like an in your face build so I would personally go syntho. Wouldn't be disappointed to have star eater though
Because the Kinetic Poison is killing it instead of the actual melee Ability. It will not proc Devour because Poison is not an Ability. But if the actual Needle kills upon the initial impact (aka Tangle spawn), it will proc Devour.
What would be the god roll exotic bond for this build? Or better to just you necrotic? I have claw necrotic, but I’m reading that it misses out on 40 something percent dmg? If not this whats a better roll..?
Sorry for a mid-noob question; have this exact build, I just am not a fan of phoenix dive… can I use my preferred class ability (healing/empowering rift) and still get same benefits?
My first class item drop was actually Necrotic/Verity, and since I got it I have been running a very unoptimized version if this. Now that ive found this video I can make some changes to make this really shine!
I think just pick whatever fits the need at the time. Indebted kindness is an awesome gun all around, but you could pick any other sidearm if you really needed unstoppable. Could also go with a void weapon and benefit from the artifact that boosts void weapon damage when attacking a weakened target. Which, will be every transcendent moment
I’d use something that can chunk yellow bars quickly. The new solar rocket sidearm Aberrant Action is fantastic or you could use Null Composure from the exotic kiosk in the tower for a quick and effective option. Those would be my two recommendations personally.
Hey this is just a suggestion but why not run a void grenade for the weaken effect instead of the storm grenade for jolt effect? Also for the exotic class item, if you haven gotten it yet, go for melee hits poisons and while surrounded melee damage is increased for the class item. So you're buffing the damage all around
I literally JUST increased the light of my thorn to try and do a build for it. This is great. I think that khovostov build is pretty good too. Spent all day yesterday getting so I could try that one out too. Great builds.
Focus decrypting an exotic engram at rahool in the tower. Rahool must be rank 16 or prestiged once. When your in rahools menu press “focused decryption” then hit the arrow to go two pages over.
I'm not sure how to feel currently! I feel like town crazy person that's finally been vindicated 😄😄😄 I have been saying for the LONGEST time Thorn was my PVE go to (Even when it was rubbish but ssshhhh!) Then Necrotic Grips & Osteo, i still ran Thorn! Got moaned at a lot too 😄 I kept saying give Thorn overflow too & we're COOKING! It gets the Range & Stability bump it needed & Overflow with the Catty, Necrotic Grips are still awesome! It's FINALLY where I believed it could be 😄😁 Hopefully you see this Plunder & you remember ay least some of my comments 😄 It's finally become a destructive PVE Monster & I'm not "throwing" anymore! My Prismatic Warlock is almost the same (Need to unlock a couple more Fragments!) Better believe I'll be throwing this build in my Fireteams faces 😄
@@Plunderthabooty it's always been a menace or downright oppressive in PVP! I've always loved it for the lore & it helps it feels awesome to use! Necrotic Grips really helped it out in PVE, then as mentioned the buffs Hand Cannons got against minors & majors too I think! Exotic Primary Buffs, the Catalyst! It slots into a multiple builds across all Classes & Subclasses! Admitted some better than others. Warlock with a good ranged Melee, Necrotic Grips, Kinetic Surge Mods can be fun too! It just feels right 😍
I've been using this for a couple days. It's been nice. The stasis turrets build everyone was running day one was so boring, and this one keeps the gameplay interesting while still competitive.
Awesome video. First time commenting. What stats should be focusing on? 100 resilience and 100 strength at a minimum? I can’t get trip 100’s yet so I’m limited to two 100’s.
idk even know if you saw my message saying to make a warlock built so powerful that is looks overpower.... & here you are with that warlock built, you are just the best bro, thats why everything D2 related i always come to your yc first 🙌🏼
The Ostria Striga sub machine gun also works well like the Thorn. Builds up light and dark fast for transcendence. If people want to try and automatic weapon instead.
Thorn in particular charges both meters faster because of the poison dot it also does. Was using lost signal a few days ago to try it out and it was feeling up my darkness meter pretty quick so maybe dots are better? Who knows
@plunder would you think that necro/syntho would go better with lightning surge in GM content? over hellion? DR in and after electroslide, everything that doesn't die is jolted and poisoned? necro/syntho is thankfully a roll i have. constructive comments only please
Your builds and this gm have enabled me to masterwork around 30 exotic class items. Thank you so much. Still haven't gotten the roll I want on Scintillation. 😭
I’ve got a different version of this I was already running using the arc slide instead of helicon since it also works with necrotic . But I’ll definitely be trying this as well
For anyone wondering "why Poison wont proc Devour" is because the Poison is killing it instead of the actual melee. Poison is not an Ability & its Kinetic damage, thus will not proc Devour. The actual Needle/Unravel has to kill upon initial impact (aka Tangle spawn), it will proc Devour, because its an Ability kill.
Correct but even if you 1 hit with needle, it will not proc devour as long as necrotic perk is equipped. You may get lucky if unravel gets the kill but as it currently stands, you should not rely on needle for devour.
Was thinking of switching the storm grenade with vortex and helion with lightning surge to still have access to jolt and have weaken, this build gave me that idea since I do have necrotic with synthos, cuz lightning surge wrecks with synthos and anything that doesn't die the poison will proc jolt and for needle the poison also keeps proving the unravel for more damage
I'm beyond questioning the validity and viability of your recommendations. Plunder says" this is the best build",...me..."yes Plunder" (goes immediately to mobalytics and equips). Thanks Plunder, you are the best!
You said that right lad, towards the end, we all play different so what works for you lad may not work for others, thats the best comment you have made for a long time.
i have a spirit of necrotic and spirit of the swarm do you think is better to use that or normal necrotic grips ? Also are the artifact mods mandatory ?
ive been using this with the new exotic chestpiece as it gives suspend and anti barrier. im curious if the added damage from this build is worth removing the utility from the chestpiece
I saw Thorn mentioned and knew the class item you were going to bring up. I was lucky enough to get a Necrotic/Star Eater roll and immediately knew it was going to be good. Fun fact: the poison from melee does still proc on super melee damage. Though, I'm not sure if the poison gets boosted from Star Eater when procced this way. I don't think it does, since it's stacked on top of the super, but I'd love for someone to test that.
@@Plunderthabooty I got this roll as my second ever class item I got and I have been using this same build for a long time. It builds up transcendence so quickly.
I have the spirit of necro with star eater before i waste my time is it better to just use the exotic gaunlets the the spirits from my testing are weak which is sad :/
Just so you know, the Necrotic Grips class item perk does less damage than Necrotic Grips because it does not ramp up over time the way Necrotic Grips does.
Which secondary weapon are people running with this? I don’t have the sidearm from Warlord’s dungeon (didn’t play in Lightfall). Been running with Forebearance but am open to suggestions.
I got a spirit of necrotic roll early and this build is really fun! The transcendence energy is crazy. What would you think of swapping ruin for courage? Seems like would boost all the jolt, scorch, storm nade and super damage because unravel will have high uptime
I think ruin is a dud in general and should be swapped for something. I’ve been playing around with balance to try and get a bit more ability energy into the build
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When you stack enough damage from all these sources you just feed your super and transcendent and on the warlock those are so so powerful!
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Plunder, stop worrying about your haters. Your real fans know your work and the time you put in to bring us your best keep up the great work 😊🙏🏿💪🏿💯
thank you for posting this mate. apreciate it :)
Syntos and necrotic class?
add a demo rocket and you're cooking. this is the build i been using with witherhoard ill try out thorn for glassway tho
@@jayjackson30I think the idea is that you click on the link to go to the mobalytics website. I'm pretty sure he's sponsored by them.
Heads up for this build, if you have star eater scales try not to pop super if your helion is up as ignitions from the super are enhanced by star eaters, but if helion is scorching it’ll overwrite your increased damage as the original source is not part of your super
oh wow thats fucked up
Hope this gets fixed
If you spawn the helion after you pop super does it work as intended?
@@xdifficultviper9916 no cus the helion isn’t counted as part of your super it’s just an aspect so you do way less damage if you have it up
Someone should report this to Bungie as this is defnitley something i can see not being intended..
for anyone wondering, the total poison damage done by spirit of the necrotic is about 45% that of the necrotic grip exotic. so it's about half as strong, but considering you get a whole other exotic perk, seems like a pretty solid trade-off
Yup exactly! Something Like Star Eaters really makes up for that :)
@@PlunderthabootyWill be trying with this exact roll later today on GMs
Where did you get this number from?
Would spirit of the swarm be good with necrotic for this build ?
@@CrocZzZznah, you really want the unravel from swarm, which it doesn’t give
I saw a guy running a version of this bro was like a legit warlock mastering the elements
That amazing!!!
what stats should we focus on
That was me that you played with…I remember you. And I got it from Plunder the Booty!
@@tthVRR resilience then discipline are the most important ones. after that probably recovery or strength, and intellect and mobility dont really matter
Plunder: “So we’ll be using Thorn and-“
Me: “AYYYO NECROMANCER WARLOCK GANG RISE UP BABYYYYYY”
HELL YEAH
same
...as soon as i hear "youll need thorn and necrotic gr-"
§ГΩP im in.
The thing is, though, Thorn has nothing to do with necromancy. It more has to do with cannibalism, in a way, since Yor devoured other Guardian's Light after killing them with a Light devouring weapon, that was Thorn.
It's okay though, it's not like you're the only Guardian to either confuse or not understand the lore.
I've been a casual player since D1 and never really looked up or paid much attention to builds. But this season I've tried all your warlock builds and they've changed the game for me. Love them all and can't wait try this one. I was using an ok Volatile build prior to this season. Love that it makes everything just go boom. Wish there was a good prismatic volatile build.
I'm glad they have Mads a difference! That is why I do them 😁
I am absolutely astounded by your ability to cook so hard every day on multiple classes cause your builds are really fun and awesome. Love your stuff. Do you think that balance of power could have a viable build just theoretically?
I am glad you like them and thank you for watching Yes for sure! I think the best way to use it is with Combination blow because it's just infinite dodge/clones. You would slot it in to the same Punchy hunter build I did as my second video this season instead of renewals
@Plunderthabooty I wonder if radiant dance machines are compatible with the clone dodge
@salemfnix1824 only spawns one clone per initial dodge and doesn't spawn more on multi dodge. You have wait for your dodge to get off cool down for another clone to spawn.
He's definitely not the only or first person to make this build. 😂😂😂
@@crisp2206 awe bungi y u r uin our f u n
So I don't have any godroll necrotic class item rolls yet. BUT I did have a very interesting one. Necrotic/Verity. Which turns the exact weapon loadout you were using into a neutral monster. Indebted Kindness with Voltshot can stack up Death Throes so quickly on a trash mob. Which makes Storm grenades hit SO hard. Been running these fragments
Dominance (duh)
Grace (duh)
Awakening (lets you make ionic traces with Indebted Kindness and Storm nades, feeding all ability regen)
Hope (having basically permanent uptime on Devour, makes it so you get your class ability and Hellion back about every 10 seconds)
Courage (gives you melee/grenade wombo combo and also lets you get bonus super damage if you use your melee before popping super)
But now I really wanna make space for Facet of Dawn because of this video. Relying on orbs and the artifact mod for Radiant is lowkey annoying.
Dude, I don't even have the exotic class item at all. So, I am grateful you're showing the build without one.
Just jump on lfg to find someone to do the duo mission?
Hey man, if you want to run it together, let me know! I can explain it.
Just get familiar with root of nightmare call outs using the mission on throne world
I can’t even get necrotic grips to drop as a exotic
@@ryantube180im assuming you get it from Rahool after resetting his rank and you can select it, unless you’ve already got it and just have bad rng?
I tried to do a similar build to this a few days ago, but Spirit of Necrotic was stopping the strand melee from triggering Unraveling Rounds or Devour. Might have to try it again.
I have the same issue. Makes Spirit of Necrotic sort of unsuable in nightfalls etc. Thought I was going crazy, I've used Arcane Needle to pierce barrier ever since Final Shape dropped - and now apparently it's not even supposed to?? Devour is also very unstable.
@@axvic I think I figured it out.
It won't work with anything that requires power melee final blows because the poison is being recognized as the final blow.
So it unravels the target, but won't work with the fragment that gives Unraveling Rounds or count as an ability kill for Devour.
@@protest9093 Huh.. What a shame. Hope they sort this out or maybe it's intentional to avoid OP builds lol
Thank you for always taking the time to put your builds up on mobalytics, it's super helpful!
Yo thanks for this man! I saw this vid when you released it and then i ran the exotic class mission and got that exact roll first try, spirit of necrotic and star eater. I forgot your vid and just rewatched it and now i knew not deleting it was the best decision!!
I just got the god roll class item, nectrotic/synco's and my god it is NUTS. Thanks for the awesome build!
Thaaaaaaank you. Jumping into warlock after mostly ever playing hunter; I like videos that can just show me how to hit the ground running. Customizing is an extremely fun part of D2, but I also don't always have time to meticulously read through every exotic, every trait, ability, and fragments. Appreciate stuff like this.
I ran a very similar build (no arc grenade, bleak watcher instead of hellion) for the whole legendary final shape campaign. I was astounded at how well necrotic grips paired with prismatic. Made Final Shape the easiest legendary campaign I ran yet.
Basically I could just chuck melees and then run around trying not to die while adds died and it recharged.
Great video. Thanks for making it.
On my first exotic class item drop I got Necrotic Grips + Star Eaters. That was literally the exact roll I was looking for and it is so busted - not just for add clear but for dps as well. Will definitely be trying this build out with that class item.
That's what I wanted. Grats
not me grinding for 2+ days and still not getting apoth + star eaters ✌️😭
See I would be running this build, but Outbreak cooks in Glassway this week. Especially when you have 3 lol. But will try this build out soon since I love necrotic grips
Also syntho does not increase the dot of the melee. It does take the melee damage from 24k to 65k. Might help proccing devour. I would suggest to go for star eater between syntho and star eater
I feel like lingering DOT just outright gives more transcendence. Outbreak ramps this up quickly too. As well as the new area denial gl ramping your dark bar in no time
What in the world is going on at 2:09. It looks like the chain lightning melee is thrown at the end of the super… but he’s got Needle equipped. Am I tripping?
I saw that too. Must be an animation error and just uses it as a fallback animation when it has a desync
5:25 I still can’t get facet of dominance. I completed the dark quest alone in the dark but I can’t replay it. Can anybody help me please.
Cool, I was just looking for a reason to grind the Thorn catalyst. And as much as I'm enjoying my Getaway Artist + Hellion combo, they don't really leave a lot of room for your guns to do anything but supplement your damage.
How would a Spirit of Necrotic with Spirit of Claw be in this build? Would it be better to go with Necrotic Grips instead?
1 more melee vs 45% more poison damage on regular necrotic grips. Have that roll on the class item and doesn’t seem worth it imo
What should the stat focus be for this build?
what i find really funny and also grants dark transcendence with super is that the incinerator snaps apply necrotic grip, which should also increase single target damage by quite a bit
hello, i was wondering what are the stats you prioritize? i am new and dont know how to see it on the DIM.
At 2:07, it is quite odd that your melee turns into the projectile arc melee that is not on the prismatic warlock kit right after your super ends.....
What’s the stronger exotic pairing here - necrotic/star-eater or necrotic/synthoceps?
Personally I think Star eater. It gives you really good boss dps and the extra bit of melee damage you get just doesn’t seem totally worth the loss to me. Definitely helps with consistency with triggering devour though!
I had a Strand build with Thorn and Necrotic that cooked through Onslaught last season. I've been trying to figure out if there is a Prismatic I could run that would be similar. I'll give this a go. Thanks
i think outbreak perfected is also a good replacement for thorn especially for barrier champs this week
You can get around barrier without issue so long as you swap to heavy or secondary after procs. It’ll break the champs. It covers all basis.
Thanks!
Thank you for the Tip! That means a lot to me! 😊
What is the godroll exotic class item? Syntho or claw +necrotic?
Should i use the exotic class item with spirit of necrotic+claw or necrotic+synthoceps or should i just stick to necrotic grips?
THIS BUILD SLAPS! Even without the exotic class item this build tears through end game content. 100 percent have to try this! Love the build!
Plunder this is the strongest build I’ve ever used on warlock prismatic. If they fix the bug to necrotic, it’s over. Get away artist is fantastic but this, my friend. This is a birth of a meta. More people need to try this.
25 minute solo GM with this.
so what did you change?
@@chiefwen279pardon, what do you mean?
@@Turtlesarecoolok sorry im a bit new to the game. would fixing the bug on the gauntlets make the build better or worse?
@@chiefwen279 much better. It would proc devour how it should on the melee!
What is the bug?
So spirit of the necrotic and spirit of the claw would be the godroll for this build?
Running a very similar build but with Mataiodoxía and Outbreak (Rewind) instead, it cooks.
Tried that early on and didn't love it. I think I wasn't running hard enough content. Feels great in higher-level stuff!
@@dericbauer9252definitely shines in end-game! I use it a lot.
I got Osmiomancy + Verity’s on my exotic class item… what’s the best grenade to use / is there a build to capitalize on this combo?
Do we think synthoceps or star eater is a better perk pairing eith necrotic?
On this build, my guess is you're throwing out more melee's than supers. It also looks like an in your face build so I would personally go syntho. Wouldn't be disappointed to have star eater though
The biggest issue with this build is that I can't get devour to proc with the gloves on
Because the Kinetic Poison is killing it instead of the actual melee Ability. It will not proc Devour because Poison is not an Ability. But if the actual Needle kills upon the initial impact (aka Tangle spawn), it will proc Devour.
What would be the god roll exotic bond for this build? Or better to just you necrotic? I have claw necrotic, but I’m reading that it misses out on 40 something percent dmg? If not this whats a better roll..?
Did you ever find out?
Sorry for a mid-noob question; have this exact build, I just am not a fan of phoenix dive… can I use my preferred class ability (healing/empowering rift) and still get same benefits?
Yep
2:07
how did he do the arc melee
yeah cant find any answers
As a solo player who took a year off of D2 this is the exact build I need. Thank you!
My first class item drop was actually Necrotic/Verity, and since I got it I have been running a very unoptimized version if this. Now that ive found this video I can make some changes to make this really shine!
What to replace indebted kindness with?
Yeah, anyone got any suggestions ?
I think just pick whatever fits the need at the time. Indebted kindness is an awesome gun all around, but you could pick any other sidearm if you really needed unstoppable. Could also go with a void weapon and benefit from the artifact that boosts void weapon damage when attacking a weakened target. Which, will be every transcendent moment
Next act of echoes there will be a new solar rocket sidearm that should slot in nicely, though you won't get jolt or amplified from using that
I’d use something that can chunk yellow bars quickly. The new solar rocket sidearm Aberrant Action is fantastic or you could use Null Composure from the exotic kiosk in the tower for a quick and effective option. Those would be my two recommendations personally.
Plunder were you not running unstoppable sidearm to keep the anti barrier buff on it from radiant?
Yes exactly since no unstoppables in this GM
Was just looking for some solid GM builds yesterday, coming in clutch as always.
Hope you enjoy it!
Hey this is just a suggestion but why not run a void grenade for the weaken effect instead of the storm grenade for jolt effect? Also for the exotic class item, if you haven gotten it yet, go for melee hits poisons and while surrounded melee damage is increased for the class item. So you're buffing the damage all around
I literally JUST increased the light of my thorn to try and do a build for it. This is great. I think that khovostov build is pretty good too. Spent all day yesterday getting so I could try that one out too. Great builds.
Am I insane or at around 2:09 do you randomly throw out a arc melee right after your super ends???
YES lol I have no idea what happened there! I watched that footage over and over to try and figure it out
So very interesting
2:10 how tf did he just cast the arc warlock melee lol am I the only one who noticed this?
Amazing video! Would love to try out the build but dont know how to get nechrotic grips. Whats the best way to get them now? Powelevel only at 1965
Focus decrypting an exotic engram at rahool in the tower. Rahool must be rank 16 or prestiged once. When your in rahools menu press “focused decryption” then hit the arrow to go two pages over.
Hmmmm, i wonder how necrotic+swarm class item would work with this.
Can you substitute thorn with osteo striga instead for people without forsaken?
For sure!
How do you break Barrier Champ shield @2:19? It never works for me.
You have to be radiant by using an arcane needle, then you can break barrier shields with your weapons while you are radiant
I'm not sure how to feel currently! I feel like town crazy person that's finally been vindicated 😄😄😄
I have been saying for the LONGEST time Thorn was my PVE go to (Even when it was rubbish but ssshhhh!) Then Necrotic Grips & Osteo, i still ran Thorn! Got moaned at a lot too 😄 I kept saying give Thorn overflow too & we're COOKING! It gets the Range & Stability bump it needed & Overflow with the Catty, Necrotic Grips are still awesome! It's FINALLY where I believed it could be 😄😁
Hopefully you see this Plunder & you remember ay least some of my comments 😄
It's finally become a destructive PVE Monster & I'm not "throwing" anymore!
My Prismatic Warlock is almost the same (Need to unlock a couple more Fragments!) Better believe I'll be throwing this build in my Fireteams faces 😄
Thorn is goated now with all its buffs over previous seasons
@@Plunderthabooty it's always been a menace or downright oppressive in PVP! I've always loved it for the lore & it helps it feels awesome to use! Necrotic Grips really helped it out in PVE, then as mentioned the buffs Hand Cannons got against minors & majors too I think! Exotic Primary Buffs, the Catalyst! It slots into a multiple builds across all Classes & Subclasses! Admitted some better than others. Warlock with a good ranged Melee, Necrotic Grips, Kinetic Surge Mods can be fun too! It just feels right 😍
I've been using this for a couple days. It's been nice. The stasis turrets build everyone was running day one was so boring, and this one keeps the gameplay interesting while still competitive.
Love this build, have you got a similar one for this season
I got lucky enough to get a class item with Necrotic and Star Eater. Can't wait to match that with this build!
I am so Jealous right now LOL :(
What’s a good replacement for Indebted Kindness?
Royal executioner with envious and res burst.
Only issue I have is barrier champions, but Osteo instead of Thorn would fix that. But then Overloads become more troublesome.
using a powered melee gives radiant when using facet of dawn allowing you to break barrier sheilds
Awesome video. First time commenting. What stats should be focusing on? 100 resilience and 100 strength at a minimum? I can’t get trip 100’s yet so I’m limited to two 100’s.
idk even know if you saw my message saying to make a warlock built so powerful that is looks overpower.... & here you are with that warlock built, you are just the best bro, thats why everything D2 related i always come to your yc first 🙌🏼
The Ostria Striga sub machine gun also works well like the Thorn. Builds up light and dark fast for transcendence. If people want to try and automatic weapon instead.
if you have necrochasm definitely try it out with this build, the catalyst rework absolutely cooks!
Plunder. Can we get a warlock infinite healing support build for GM’s please? Maybe this build can be on solar, using the new exotic helmet
Thorn in particular charges both meters faster because of the poison dot it also does. Was using lost signal a few days ago to try it out and it was feeling up my darkness meter pretty quick so maybe dots are better? Who knows
@plunder would you think that necro/syntho would go better with lightning surge in GM content? over hellion? DR in and after electroslide, everything that doesn't die is jolted and poisoned? necro/syntho is thankfully a roll i have. constructive comments only please
Your builds and this gm have enabled me to masterwork around 30 exotic class items. Thank you so much.
Still haven't gotten the roll I want on Scintillation. 😭
Does the class item effect weapons or not? I’ve seen people saying yes and no
It works with weapons, but the class item just doesn't ramp up the poison damage over time
I’ve got a different version of this I was already running using the arc slide instead of helicon since it also works with necrotic . But I’ll definitely be trying this as well
I love my poison build, but just couldn’t quite get it right with Prismatic. THIS is it. Thanks, man!!
For anyone wondering "why Poison wont proc Devour" is because the Poison is killing it instead of the actual melee. Poison is not an Ability & its Kinetic damage, thus will not proc Devour. The actual Needle/Unravel has to kill upon initial impact (aka Tangle spawn), it will proc Devour, because its an Ability kill.
Correct but even if you 1 hit with needle, it will not proc devour as long as necrotic perk is equipped.
You may get lucky if unravel gets the kill but as it currently stands, you should not rely on needle for devour.
For the poison that spreads on defeat, do you have to kill the enemy, or can it be from anyone in the fireteam?
How are you killing the barriers? Are they getting jolted and melted before they can proc their barrier?
Necrotic, swarmers, with prismatic doctrine is good ?
Would vortex gernade with the void weaken effect not be better that becoming amplified?
Necrotic poison counts as kinetic damage which could be contributing to why thorn is increasing transcendence so much quicker.
Hi Plunder but does the class exotic spread poison with thorns or just a melee?
Was thinking of switching the storm grenade with vortex and helion with lightning surge to still have access to jolt and have weaken, this build gave me that idea since I do have necrotic with synthos, cuz lightning surge wrecks with synthos and anything that doesn't die the poison will proc jolt and for needle the poison also keeps proving the unravel for more damage
I'm beyond questioning the validity and viability of your recommendations. Plunder says" this is the best build",...me..."yes Plunder" (goes immediately to mobalytics and equips). Thanks Plunder, you are the best!
i got a question, what 2 perks do you think are the best for the exotic class item in this built?
You said that right lad, towards the end, we all play different so what works for you lad may not work for others, thats the best comment you have made for a long time.
i have a spirit of necrotic and spirit of the swarm do you think is better to use that or normal necrotic grips ?
Also are the artifact mods mandatory ?
I was thinking about using this combo about 2 days ago, and here comes this video perfect timing 👌
ATM I only have spirit of necrotic paired with spirit of swarm, you think it’s worth to run over base necrotic grips?
I would take base over that :) You really want Star Eaters, Synthoceps or maybe Claw
i had a question about your armor stats. what are your stat tiers? im sure that also is important
ive been using this with the new exotic chestpiece as it gives suspend and anti barrier. im curious if the added damage from this build is worth removing the utility from the chestpiece
I saw Thorn mentioned and knew the class item you were going to bring up. I was lucky enough to get a Necrotic/Star Eater roll and immediately knew it was going to be good.
Fun fact: the poison from melee does still proc on super melee damage. Though, I'm not sure if the poison gets boosted from Star Eater when procced this way. I don't think it does, since it's stacked on top of the super, but I'd love for someone to test that.
The first exotic class item I got was necrotic star eater. I love the build. Thorn slaps and I get my super and trancedance all the time!!
I want Star Eater SO BAD with this Build! I am jealous!!!!! :)
@@Plunderthabootynow that you have claw do you like the class item better or regular grips?
@Plunderthabooty It's bonkers and I went from being like it's not apothosis to it's my new favorite build!
@@Plunderthabooty I got this roll as my second ever class item I got and I have been using this same build for a long time. It builds up transcendence so quickly.
Your build and game loop explanations make me enjoy this game a lot more. Thank you 👍🏻
I have the spirit of necro with star eater before i waste my time is it better to just use the exotic gaunlets the the spirits from my testing are weak which is sad :/
Just so you know, the Necrotic Grips class item perk does less damage than Necrotic Grips because it does not ramp up over time the way Necrotic Grips does.
Which secondary weapon are people running with this? I don’t have the sidearm from Warlord’s dungeon (didn’t play in Lightfall). Been running with Forebearance but am open to suggestions.
Spirit of necrotic and verity good? Could work well w indebted kindness and storm nades
What is your stat breakout?
Played with this build for the last two days in raids and dual destiny. It’s really good.
2:07 bro somehow uses an arc melee coming out of the super lol, bungie spaghetti code never fails to amaze me
I’ve had this happen to me before and I recorded it lmao! Idk how tf that happened 😂
@@DMAGIC6 If you use a melee while Amplified it does that
I got a spirit of necrotic roll early and this build is really fun! The transcendence energy is crazy. What would you think of swapping ruin for courage? Seems like would boost all the jolt, scorch, storm nade and super damage because unravel will have high uptime
I think ruin is a dud in general and should be swapped for something. I’ve been playing around with balance to try and get a bit more ability energy into the build