The INSANE Largest Aircraft Ever Designed - Lockheed CL-1201
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Where is the count down video from
The Star Trek add was really annoying through the video just put it in one section
make a vedio about TU-160
@@davisdelp8131 What was annoying was that it's clear he's never watched Star Trek... He has no idea what he is saying, they are just words to him. Really poor choice for a sponsor. Look in the sky, it's the Star Trek Enterprise!! 🙄
@@BirdOPrey5 It made sense with the video and you need to respect the fact that he needs to make money to make thies videos
This plane was so massive it would need the runway from fast and furious franchise to get airborne
If you built them in orbit and reentried them into the sky there's no limit to how big they could get
@@smorrow You think it would be easier to build them in orbit and re-enter them than build them on the ground?
@@jamescarter8311 If you already had industry in space, then yeah? I mean he says in the video there's no runway big enough for them
this comment wins
Its so massive another airliner could use its wings as a landing strip.
How close we came to having planes like the ones in the Ace Combat series.
Obligatory "bUt aCtuAlLy iT's cAlLeD tHe aRsEnaL bIrD🤓" comment
Its the fricking Arsenal Bird on steroids
Even we know Strangereal are riddled by conflicts like every 5 years, I rather life on there than this earth.
I wish they would do a game in the 60s in the strangeworld universe. This is screaming Belkan Wunderwaffen
@@MrPetarted86 i second this
I think one of the main problems is that at this size, an unsupervised five year old with a microwave and some crayons has a realistic chance to get a radar lock on that monstrosity - it's literally the most concentrated and exposed strategic target I could imagine.
Everyone in the comments: Man, this would be so COOL!
Me, an intellectual: Ah yes, the CL-1201 Giant Target
@@sethb3090
Me a Strategiest: Ah yess that's why we deploy the fighters outside the combat zone. Its a flying aircraft carrier not a bomber.
There's a reason why B-52s can now be fitted with a crap ton of cruise missiles these days.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Me an recursive absurdist: It is a giant bomber that bombs battlefield with normal sized bombers which bomb battlefield with bombs! I'm sure we could put drones and cluster bombs somewhere in this idiotic chain of overcomplicated mass murders.
@@SroedingerCat war is war. 10000 years of human civilization doesn't change that fact that war is part of your species. However I do know that attrition wise. There would be less death if your able to turn the tide of war quickly resulting in a fast victory.
Besides the bloodshed in war now is far less than that of the past with spear and sword. These days it's fairly quick. Course I'm referring to actual war not occupation.
Regardless of your views I see a upside to a giant craft like this. Both for war and peace.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent I don't see why war has to be inevitable. Slavery was a fact of life for all of history, until it wasn't.
It's literally a manned version of the Arsenal Bird in AC7 Unknown Skies
You mean The Moby Dick?
@Sagitta98 that's the Aigion from AC6
The Arsenal Bird isn't the only flying Aircraft carrier in the Ace Combat franchise, There are multiple designs in Strangereal Universe alone.
This flying carrier would be more akin to the Aigaion from AC6
Not quite. They are both about 1100 wide. For this plane, that is feet. For the Arsenal bird, that is meters.
this plane is so massive it needs 2 videos
yes
lol i saw you everywhere. So you decided to go from splatoon to ace combat now?
🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't expecting to see you here, Monika, but ok
Where are the yo mama jokes
It’s so crazy they actually considered making this
Edit: imagine being a Vietnamese soldier, preparing for an American attack, and then just seeing a massive boomerang float overhead and start dropping phantoms
Wow. Another sick Conservative cheering on murder.
A plane so big, it doesn't throw bombs, it throws other planes that throw bombs.
Yeah they don't imagine, life already suck you don't need to make it harder
It would be like the movie Avatar, in a sense!
You made me chuckle hard :)
The fact that they proposed laser defense in the 1960’s really shows how long we have been working on them
And they are still almost ready, just like the last 30 years
@@HappyBeezerStudios Lasers are ready once fusion power is ready.
Even the Soviets already built 3 types of laser vehicles in the 80's using the Shilka, BMP-3, and T-72 chassis
@@thenasiudk1337 don't forget the airborne laser project to shoot down enemy missiles.
If you really read the fringe accounts of energy weapons tech, you will learn that by the end of WWII, most major powers already had radio/microwave frequency weapons already. Lasers are a retarded distraction, as most of the damage is heating, unlike microwaves and radio, which can penetrate beyond a centimeter...
This reminds me of the P-1112 Aigaion Heavy Command Cruiser and support crafts of the Estovakian Aerial Fleet from Ace Combat 6...
It was probably based on this very aircraft.
An airborne carrier carrying 24 F-4 Phantoms - awesome!!!! Another great video, thanks for finding these gems and telling their stories.
But how were the pilots supposed to enter the cockpit?
@@strudl32456 i think they would enter it before the jets were attached to the 1201 not sure tho
as far as there is anything awesome on war
@@ruipires7630 I bet that the pylons in reality would have covered the cockpit when attached, and acted as a covered access. That way the crews could go from muster to their jets and back, also allowing for the jet to be refueled while docked. Really the biggest hurdles here is how do you re-arm an F-4 in the air with this, and also docking in the first place. If the jets are there just as a one-time use, then there's always the argument of simply building more aircraft carriers. Already nuclear powered, and have solved all the other logistical issues with operating aircraft.
And how would you rearm the under wing pylons?
CL-1201 my beloved
I wonder if modern computers would make the crew requirements and even weight of the aircraft better. How much of the proposed crew was to do things that 1960's computers couldn't automate?
Honestly the main things I see computers reducing are mainly the docking complications with the aircraft, and some of the engineering/navigation crew requirements. However with such a large, and expensive aircraft you would still want a sizable crew aboard for general maintenance, or in the event of emergency. Back when Qantas Flight 32 (an Airbus A380) had an engine explode, the two man crew was bombarded with something like 50 error messages. With something as massive as the CL1201, you would definitely want extra crew to deal with that. Then of course with today's capabilities, you could probably expect that 41 day flight time to get a little longer so you'd want extra crew to ensure everyone is rested. Then there's also the argument that if you automate this thing so much, then why not just build a bunch of drones instead of a few massive jets?
Honestly the biggest modern innovations I see for this project would be the massive engines engines we're able to produce now, lightweight composite materials, and the recent licensing of modular nuclear reactors or the breakthroughs with fusion reactor technology.
The Nuclear reactor would require a set crew of engineers to ensure safe operation. And in shifts.
Beyond that, most of the functions now can probably be automated or reduced in crew
@Exodus I'd be willing to bet that just because of the sheer mass of this jet that it would take quite a bit to bring down. Not to mention that this would be deployed with it's own sort of "task force" just like a super carrier is so it wouldn't just be derping around in a circle by itself. It could also just stand off beyond the effective range of AA weapons. Who knows, maybe the USAF would have figured out some sort of reflective coating that reduces the effectiveness of energy weapons.
Cmon, this is utterly bollocky dumb idea
This is not Ace Combat universe, you don't need those.
@Exodus Iron dôme
Lockheed : let's build a giant sky wings
Also Lockheed : we found crack in the C5's wings, so cargo weight must be restricted
You know if the Soviets even hinted at a project like this, this aircraft would have been built...
Great content as always! Cheers!
Bartini designed a GEV for 5000 tons. Initially as a logistics carrier or even tourism ship, but he also designed it as a military aircraft carrier.
More recently Beriev designed a GEV/airplane of 5000 tons, the Be-5000.
Basically the above made your comment false.
I wouldn't say that the Soviets even "hinted at" any interest in building any such thing. A few designs were floated around in design bureaus. No official interest, even in logistics and civil versions of such things.
Bigger? Da!
@@JFrazer4303 You misunderstood his comment. He was saying, in reaction to the soviets at the time 'possibly' building anything like this, america WOULD have built it. It was the time of the blank cheque- It would have been built for the same reasons the space race existed- competition between nations.
This is the jet from the modern monster verse. The first Godzilla movie had a jet like this but had helicopters instead of planes. Was a cool idea.
The Argo looks more like the B-2
Yea
The U.S.S. Argo is such a cool plane, although it'd be practically impossible for something of that size to actually fly lol
By the way, those weren't helicopters it carried, they were V-22 Ospreys (VTOL rotating-prop planes) which actually do exist in real life, pretty neat aircraft.
Also that was the second Godzilla movie, not the first :P
@@shadowscythes Bear in mind, people, that when it had to face the kaiju Rodan the Argo's only tactical option was to be elsewhere very, very quickly.
“Those damn Erusea forces, they had that thing combat ready the whole time”
Those bastards!
Lockheed as far as I know kept this design and scaled it down to a more practical size to eventually become the C5,KC-135 replacement. They refer to it right now as the Hybrid Wing Body concept but I’m sure here soon we’ll learn of a official name. It’s supposed to be a cargo/tanker/troop transport/forward command center as they’ve designed different modules that plug into the cargo bay area.
Never give up on a good thing. Or a good design.
The C-5 Galaxy is strickly a cargo aircraft. the KC-135 replacement is the KC-10
It is bonkers!! As a USAF 22 year veteran aircraft crew chief, the routine maintenance alone on this thing would be a logistical nightmare! I think the floating carrier from Marvel would make more sense. It is cool to see it in cgi though.
USAF would have found a way. Gov't would have no qualm starving the people freeing up funds to keep this thing running.
I love how you remake old videos in a new and way better way. I've been following you since the early days
It kinda makes sense in regard to building a nuclear powered aircraft to begin with. No matter what, it's going to be big and if it's going to be big, you might as well make it as useful as possible (it isn't like the construction/fuel costs are going to change, etc.)
How do the pilots of F4s get into and out of the cockpits while they are attached under the wings?
Probably they're already inside their F-4 Phantoms, waiting for the signal to sortie.
A serious fatigue flaw
That's just it...they don't. It was definitely an oversight
@@chiefturion7134 pretty sure the original design had portholes that connected to hallways inside the wings kind of like emergency boats on ships, it makes sense that way, the wings were so large you could literally fit apartments inside them
Teleporters!!
The 3 smaller planes docking on the larger one makes me think of the Supremacy from The Last Jedi, with Star Destroyers being able to dock on it...pretty crazy stuff
Did a Google search for this plane. 🤯 This is gonna be epic! 👍👍👍
I was not wrong. Great video! Kind of missed the square space intro though not going to lie. 😂 That was kind of a mind-blowing proposition at the end there. But if they did build a version of that plane and the tips were going supersonic in the engine, then it would make a hell of a lot more noise than the worrying sound that was heard in Phoenix. But that was a pretty mind-blowing way to end a video 👍👍👍
Now I see where Arsenal Bird inspiration are from
And once again, something out of the Lockheed Martin vault. You can see Project Aces are Skunk Works fans.
Glad to see a remake of this amazing video, Nick! Love this plane to bits
I always wonder if the crew of the "parasite" aircraft held under the wing could get in and out while the carrier was in flight? In the reconstruction given here the connection goes to the fuselage of the fighter behind the cockpit and it would have been impossible.
They die flying lol
I wondered the same thing
While watching the digital models of the CL-1201, I thought to myself if even one of these behemoths was shot down by a single missile (inverse square law), the loss of military assets would be staggering, perhaps irreplaceable. Put another way: If the aerial component of a military operation involved a fleet of CL-1201, the loss of a single CL-1201 would possibly scrub the entire operation.
At one point in Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, Thrawn's XO Palleaon bitterly reflects that when the Super Star Destroyer Executor was shot down it took a massive chunk of the Imperial Fleet's best and brightest with it. That was a crippling blow in and of itself -- don't get him started on the losses that went with both Death Stars ...
If I am correct, this is the reason that Japan didn't send its Yamato battleships to the front lines; the cost of losing the ship was too great to risk.
Finally! Another video on this! Thank you! Also good job on 500k!
Absolutely love your shows, they are amazingly well put together, and graphics animation and segways are all perfectly edited and narrated. I'm also impressed by your workload, I know what you do takes a lot of time yet you never keep your audience waiting too long for the next show. Thank you so much for all your hard work.
Imagine someone in 1920 coming up with a design for a plane like the B-52 or 747. People would think they were nuts. But dreams are usually decades ahead of the technology to make it happen.
Rumor as old as dirt in the Militaria community goes that the B-52 *was* on the drawing boards in the 30s.
This made me happy. Nice to see a remake of the video that drew me into this wonderful channel
The ultimate weapon of Peace had be laughing out loud XD the juxtaposition of "ultimate weapon" and "peace" caught me unprepared. Nice.
Nuclearpowered, vertical lift, 27 F4 phantoms, laser weapons and 200 meters wingspan! Sounds like Lockheed martin went to a kindergarden to get design advice 🤣
Right, the technology didn’t exist in 1969 but scary thought, it does today. Flying nuclear reactors (1950s)- check, Vertical lift (1970s) - check, Air launches aircraft l from a mothership (1940s)-check, Flying Laser weapon (2000s) - check. Now the only piece that hasn’t been demonstrated is the scale - 200m wingspan. But Starship is over a 100m tall so building at scale is now possible if not feasible.
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Specially with a special composites + high-end metal alloys combo
Hold on this plane has already been covered here before. Crazy that that was 2 years ago though, I remember starting to watch this channel when it was quite new and it doesn’t feel like it’s been so long already
I know bills have to be paid but this feels like a video for Star Trek with a little plane stuff in it
The Arsenal Bird is real?
"How exactly would this gigantic aircraft take to this skies? ... Designers thought of this and came up with an honestly pretty genius solution!"
For a second I thought you were going to say they would build it in the sky, like how orbital infrastructure is built.
thats even more insane
As said in the last Video, Salt Flats and external mounted Boosters.
Making it a VTOL calls for problems.
I don't know why you still say "let me know if you want to see a video on it".
Of course we want to see a video on it. Absolutely love your stuff dude 👌🏼
Love this plane! Great video. Info only-the Phoenix lights were target illumination flares dropped for a big joint attack exercise in the military training airspace west of Phoenix (very bright flares falling under a parachute designed to illuminate a battlefield). They appear to "block out the stars" because the light they produce washes out the stars behind, even in the area around the flare that appears relatively dark. I arrived on base for A-10 school shortly after this exercise and was trained by several who were part of it. The military did, indeed, respond to many inquiries with this simple explanation, but I suppose the press did not pass on the info because aliens are way more fun.
This plane literally made my jaw drop, I have no words for how amazing this aircraft is and I wish it could be built. The only real application I could see it being used in though is if we ever get into a full-scale war with China or Russia.
I can only imagine one of these things carrying the new rapid Dragon systems and watching them
5:36 now that’s saying something! The 225 was a monster!
How could the pilots mount the "parasite" Phantom airplanes at those heights and speeds? Or should they stay on board the Pantoms, strapped in for 41 days?
I would love to see the submarine hunter variant, also would be great if you could post more naval designs!
These planes would be one hell of a passenger plane. Carry thousands of passengers at a time nonstop to any destination in the world.
ABSOLUTEY loved the Starship Enterprise comparisms....
Fun "fact" about this plane: it's heavily implied that, in fallout 3 and 4, the crashed airplanes you encounter are a civilian model of these
The idea that such a vehicle could be maintained without landing is crazy.
Imagine if it would crash as a military personnel carrier... Jesus the losses would be tragic
It would be like the loss of an ocean liner in WW2. The Queen Mary carried 16000 troops every cross Atlantic journey during WW2.
Just when I thought we were done with the CL-1201, HE BRINGS IT BACK!!!
Totally! It took me by surprise with its excitement.
Love the channel and congrats ok 500k!
Yes I say in the video 500k special, and if you look I'm still 10k shy of that goal.
Alas, in this case I made the video ahead of time for the most amazing milestone, and I figured, since we are almost there, why not reward yall with the video early?
Because this one is for you.
Thanks, sweetums. MuAh!
This is astonishing, truly a marvel of engineering and a flying fortress. An unstoppable machine of destruction capable of flying for over a month without stopping.
It could be taken down by a couple birds flying into the engines.
It would actually take a significant bird strike to take out the engines. Having seen bird strike tests on current jet engines they can take damage and keep running.
@@tedtomoyasu8438 Current as in 2023 or current as in whenever this thing was conceptualized?
@@Slay1337pl
Well, this thing was basically impossible back when it was designed, but with today's advancements it's actually feasible.
Not only that, but those engines wouldn't be normal jet engines, but likely electric engines, wich could be way more reinforced
The raw fatigue to a frame system that size would be crazy. Add in the couplers functions and dynamic load changes of loading and offloading other aircraft - takes that to insane forces before you even take flight!
Plus - no airport big enough to take off or land at!
That plane is MASSIVE!.. A massive TARGET
"Arsenal Bird"
I've seen it. In Hagerstown Maryland roughly 10 years ago flying north around 10 at night right by the untersection of 81 and 70... giant... and I mean giant black v with 5 round white lights... couldn't hear a thing. Phoenix lights is the closest thing I've ever seen to it. I had figured it was probably a nuclear flying aircraft carrier... thank you for helping me not feel insane!
Tremendously fun video - well done! 👍🏻🎅👍🏻
The 1st video about this plane. I love so much. Glad to see it back.🧡💚😎😇🎉🎉🎉🎉
aint no way💀 americans be planning a real life arkbird
For me the biggest takeaway from this video was the fact that Kirk’s Enterprise was so much smaller than Picard’s Enterprise.
The stress of managing such a vessel is why Picard was bald and Kirk wasn't. But they never mentioned that on the show 🤣
The Galaxy Class (Picard) was designed for multi-generational missions. They had families and kids aboard in addition to the standard crew. Kirk's Enterprise towards its retirement was a military vessel, Picard's Starfleet was not a military in the first half of the 24th Century and thus during peacetime the Galaxy Class was king. However Starfleet went back to a war/military footing so smaller more aggressive vessels were built with the same mission profile as the Refit Constitution (Kirk's ship) such as the Enterprise-E
You just found out? Kirk's lady would fit quite snugly inside the saucer section of Picard's. (You can see this is the size comparison part of the video.)
One point eight three Gigawatts! Great Scott!!!
I loved this concept so much I made “CL-1201” my MSFS callsign
This is an awesome concept, but I started laughing at the VTOL segment. Imagine seriously pitching this to someone. “Yes, we have thousands of troops aboard 6 planes. Very efficient, and in no way overconcentrated. Now there’s no runway big enough for it, so instead we just have to install and then maintain well over a hundred 747 engines in the wings so the plane can take off.
Awesome. Question is, what happens when an unscheduled landing is necessary considering runway options?
Using surface area of the plane in conjunction with the wind to cool it down is beautiful 👌🏻
I love watching/reading about these totally bonkers vehicles. I always wonder if engineers are still doing this today.
Can you do one of these videos dedicated to escape hatches? I may or may not be slightly more than obsessed with them.
The fun part is how this looks more realistic than, say, S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier. 😉
You deserve every followers, you work is SO COOL and so well done !
On road to the next 500000 !
Super Interesting. Seems like something still worth pursuing.
Real life"Arsenal Bird"
Adding so many jet engines for VTOL is just such an absurd idea
The whole thing is absurd, and I love it.
Great video as always...!!! It would be interesting to know about this parasite fighter you mentioned.. can you please do a video on that jet alone.... I heard that there were some pretty radical designs.... Would be great if you take a look into this
Yes for video on the sub hunter, looks super interesting!
A review of the German FA-223 Drache would be superb
There's a plane named after Drachinifel?🤣🤣
I have a concept of these things for a far future project. Not to be cringe worthy, but I named a fleet of them "Archangels" with each individual craft built around the names of known archangels, like Gabriel is an AEW&C focused craft, Michael is the carrier, Raphael is the cargo transport, etc. One cool one is Azrael is a giant missile platform, like hundreds or thousands fly out of its belly and wings.
Don't know if these ideas sound stupid or what.
@President Eden Nice to hear that. Thanks.
New plot for ace combat 8 just dropped
I think I saw these on Fireball XL5. They really built them.
Like you say the Phoenix lights was described as a gushing wind, at altitude you can hear the 4 engines of a 747, if it was the CL1201 that had it's 182 engines going just to hover, I think people would have descibed the noise as a bit a louder than "gushing wind".
The Star Trek add was really annoying in this one because he mixed it with the regular video
And here I thought the enormous seaplanes of Ace Combat and Project Wingwan were pure fantasy.
As an EVE Online player my first thought is: that would be one hell of a killmail and loot drop.
been following you for years but never realized your audience was as small as it is. you have the production of a much larger channel, and the narration is the most Australian sound on YT
So how did the people flying those parasite fighters get in and out for dinner time and bathroom breaks if this thing never landed?
I cant see how they would ever make he launch and recovery of Phantoms work with that plan... imagine the turbulence under those giant wings.
There may actually be a modern solution for this. The potential for turbulence and uneven airflows is an issue for engine intakes too, such that one side of the blades would get hit with more force than the other. They have figured out that putting a bulbous section in front of the intake separates the boundary layer so that the air going into the engine is comparatively even, and thus putting less strain on the blades.
Something similar could be set up so as to have a deployable folded thing that does this for an entire fighter.
My favorite aviation channel. Period.
This plan is way more practical as military plan than the video I just watched that had it as a commercial plan lol
I remember the first time I watched the original video..... nostalgia
How do you find these things? this is insane.
imagine if all these military concepts had worked out and been updated till today, the immense amount of toys we’d have would be insane
this is mind blowing
The interesting part is that there are enemy aircraft similar to this in project wingman
Where do you think they got the idea from.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Ace Combat, really.
If you used electric motors for the four big engines, why not on the rows of small ones for VTOL? How about the Phantoms can also provide thrust, and armament for the Mothercraft? Let's build this thing!
the big engines are not powered by electric motors, they're powered by the heat produced by the reactors, the lift engines are also not for VTOL as you can tell by the fact that they would have nowhere near enough thrust
That was the smoothest ad integration that I’ve ever seen.
Impressive. Concept!!!
So looking at the model you showed it would seem that the pilots in the parasite fighter/bombers would have to just survive the whole flight until given the order to launch which could be a long while...
On another topic, despite the Ausmerzer from Wolfenstein being fictional, what if you could talk to the devs and artists and make a video on that. I love the mechanical design stuff that game has with the massive robots and such. Also in the Wolfenstein series there are a couple of really neat looking fighter jets.
I was thinking that too.
Pilots be like:
*ARE WE THERE YET?*
this video is a remake of a video from 2 years ago, still good though.
Not a huge remake but a redo as the 3d has come a long way
I knew I had seen that video allready. But man, is that one heck of an awesome topic to explore.
The Phoenix lights def wasn't a prototype of this aircraft, I'm one of the hundreds of thousands that saw the event in person. They weren't flares, and it wasn't making any loud type of noice or "swooshing " sound. Some have heard it but the majority said they saw it glide by them in silence. No clue what happened that night over the valley but it wasn't anything anyone has ever seen before. It was much larger than one of these. Curious if anyone else here was in Phoenix that night and what they saw/ think it was. Either way great video and thanks for putting in such time and effort!
Great video!