10-Year-Old Son Shoots National Socialist Party Leader Father | Joseph Hall Case Analysis

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 885

  • @whereisCarmenSandiego
    @whereisCarmenSandiego Рік тому +889

    One of the very few cases where I feel more remorse for the killer than the “victim”. That kid never stood a chance.

    • @The_alchemistress
      @The_alchemistress Рік тому +61

      I think that Joseph was abused and neglected by his parents and that trauma wasn’t handled well by him. He had horrible parents and could only cope the only way he knew how to avoid future abuse.

    • @whereisCarmenSandiego
      @whereisCarmenSandiego Рік тому +59

      @@The_alchemistress
      I agree. I’m wandering if maybe the stepmom was the less mean of the 2 parents? And when he heard his dad and stepmom arguing about her moving out, he thought that he would end up going with his father and was terrified by that thought. It’s just a sad case in general. That boy deserved better.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +29

      @@The_alchemistress So many kids in the same situation out there.

    • @JerdMcLean
      @JerdMcLean Рік тому

      Under socialism this is what you will get. Just proof that even the innocent mind of a 10 year old instinctually knows that socialists belong under the ground.

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 Рік тому +18

      I think life's hard enough without a kid having some kind of FAS from mother giving them issues mentally/physically. Then compounded by a constant upheaval in their life, deprivations and violence, its really only going to end up one way: Badly
      With any luck (because there's been precious little of that so far in his life), there's a lifetime ahead of them to mend, be counseled and can hopefully avoid the cycle of violence, substance abuse and ending up in correctional institutions. There's a lot of work from the state and community to break that cycle but i really hope it can be done in this case.

  • @hopeausbyn1734
    @hopeausbyn1734 Рік тому +447

    The child was told by his father that the house would be set aflame after fire alarms were disabled. That was a serious threat on the lives staying in the house. That child did not want to die, so he disabled the threat. Previous state interventions had failed the child and his sister.

    • @DottieMinerva
      @DottieMinerva Рік тому +7

      As usual 😔

    • @mrtim5363
      @mrtim5363 Рік тому

      Every relative failed the him, being passed from one bad apple to another helps no one. The Fed & St Gov/Social Services failed him. Law enforcement was unable to take a clearly dangerous & abusive man off the St. Courts were unable to keep him behind bars. & I can see 1 or 2 reports to Social Services but not 23, that's another huge failure.

    • @Stichting_NoFap
      @Stichting_NoFap Рік тому +1

      How do we know if his father actually told him that?

    • @hopeausbyn1734
      @hopeausbyn1734 Рік тому +4

      @@Stichting_NoFap How do you know that he didn't?

    • @Stichting_NoFap
      @Stichting_NoFap Рік тому +1

      @@hopeausbyn1734 That's what I'm asking, whether he did it or not.

  • @Masterho310
    @Masterho310 Рік тому +132

    When you bring anger and hatred into your home don't be surprised when the chickens come home to roost.

    • @lisabradford8180
      @lisabradford8180 Рік тому +9

      THIS! 🎯

    • @bcc7777
      @bcc7777 Рік тому +7

      Why there are so many violent adults too.

    • @pinkarate1
      @pinkarate1 Рік тому

      @@bcc7777 Because they had violent parents. I guarantee the parents were molested or mentally abused.

    • @ShapeShiftedIntoMyCat
      @ShapeShiftedIntoMyCat Рік тому +3

      ​@@bcc7777 more often than not; it's because of adults unfortunately

    • @Faristol7
      @Faristol7 Рік тому

      THIS!!🙋

  • @arinerm1331
    @arinerm1331 Рік тому +230

    I was expecting to hear that Joseph's defense would have been similar to that of a battered wife. He could reasonably fear that his father was going to murder the family by arson, so just like a battered wife who thinks she can't leave, Joseph was a troubled child who most certainly could not leave.

    • @michelemahon141
      @michelemahon141 Рік тому +7

      Absolutely.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 Рік тому +14

      Joseph was at a disadvantage by being a difficult child. But he is a difficult child because of the abuse coupled with adhd.

    • @honesttruth8064
      @honesttruth8064 Рік тому +7

      ​@@kellydalstok8900 abuse includes drug abuse by a pregnant mother...❤

    • @TheActualLiz
      @TheActualLiz 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah. Absolutely. That would have been a reasonable argument. 💯

  • @NovemberRain007
    @NovemberRain007 Рік тому +151

    That poor little boy; I hope he got the help he needed and is doing well. Happy Easter Dr. G and everyone watching❤

  • @queenmarynovelwriter5397
    @queenmarynovelwriter5397 Рік тому +44

    I had a narcissistic , abusive, alcoholic father, there were many times I thought about it...never did though . I just hope that child got the help he needed.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому

      There are more cases of kids kill abusive parents than we know of.

  • @mbb--
    @mbb-- Рік тому +164

    When the boy asked, "How many lives do people usually get," it made me think he understood the world to operate like a video game. This is a very sad case.

    • @swedishmeatball4382
      @swedishmeatball4382 Рік тому +8

      Yeah, many children cannot grasp that video games and cartoons are different than the real world (or all; but there might be a few that are aware of the distinction).
      There was a case in Norway in 1994 where a 5 year old girl was beaten to death. Two boys, aged 5 and 6, confessed to beating her, since no one ever suffered from being beaten in cartoons and the TV series they watched. It is debatable if the confession swould have held up under scrutiny, especially considering the sexual undertones to the murder that these boys would have been very young to carry out. However, I am not overly familiar with the more intricate details of the case in question.

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe Рік тому +13

      Maybe he was asking about his sentence instead.

    • @okarowarrior
      @okarowarrior Рік тому +19

      "he ran mostly without electricity"
      Yeah. Probably videogames weren't an influence at all.
      The father was a neo nazi. I can think of many other influences about having many lives other than video games

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem Рік тому

      @@LukeSumIpsePatremTe 😂 W comment

    • @kartyl1wielki
      @kartyl1wielki Рік тому +4

      I thought he was referring to life sentences.

  • @LaMaestra2102
    @LaMaestra2102 Рік тому +79

    Why oh why do people have kids without the intent to take care of them?
    Happy Easter, Dr. Grande.

    • @janakakumara3836
      @janakakumara3836 Рік тому +26

      I had parents like that. Their whole intent was for the children to take care of them. They hated it when children behaved like children. What they wanted was captive servants who would fulfill their adult needs.

    • @pinkarate1
      @pinkarate1 Рік тому +8

      @@janakakumara3836 Thank you for articulating my exact feelings.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +2

      They didn't know how kids were made.

    • @ocoolwow
      @ocoolwow Рік тому +5

      Because people like the idea of mini me's

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades Рік тому +4

      Because the government incentives it! Tax credits, free monthly checks, food stamps, get paid to stay home from work.

  • @Aaron-kj8dv
    @Aaron-kj8dv Рік тому +53

    I feel like if 1 parent has the children taken away for meth use it's not out of the question that the other parent also be tested before the kid is handed over.
    I can't imagine there's too many relationships where only one person is taking meth.

    • @TheBOG3
      @TheBOG3 Рік тому

      Andre Agassi was when he was married to Brooke Shields. She has never done drugs.

    • @Third_eyee
      @Third_eyee Рік тому

      I can attest to being in a relationship where only one of us was on meth without the other one knowing

    • @cassiemontgomery45
      @cassiemontgomery45 Рік тому +4

      I quite agree. Meth use is rampant where I live and meth users almost always want to be around other meth users. They don't usually take to others outside of the scene, because of paranoia. An "outsider,non-user" could be someone with connections to law enforcement plus they bring no dope connections. This has been my observation from being part of the recovery community for several years.

  • @janiekilkelly
    @janiekilkelly Рік тому +124

    While it was necessary to confine him due to him being so damaged and dangerous, how could he be criminally liable when he was determined to lack the ability to know right from wrong?

    • @pricklypear7516
      @pricklypear7516 Рік тому +10

      I don't believe that determination was made. "Mental health professionals claimed that he didn't understand society's concept of right and wrong." That's not exactly saying he didn't grasp the difference itself. In any event, it was found that he did, in fact, kill his father. All things considered, ten years in juvie isn't a bad outcome. Given the violent trajectory he was on prior to the shooting, it might actually have been the best placement for him.

    • @dogguy8603
      @dogguy8603 Рік тому +5

      ​@@pricklypear7516 its horrible to say this, but hopefully this leads that he only has 1 victim, instead of going on a mass shooting and having multiple victims.

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem Рік тому

      @@dogguy8603 kid prob needs more than 10 tbh

    • @foreverwander0320
      @foreverwander0320 Рік тому +3

      I agree. 10 years old is so little… what is a child threatened with being burned alive supposed to do to protect himself? Apparently the authorities had been called dozens of times and he was still at home and in danger. Poor kid, I hope he’s ok right now.

    • @huizhechen3779
      @huizhechen3779 Рік тому +2

      The kid said that he knew shooting his father was wrong. When you're brought up to hate & to use violence to solve problems, you don't think about right or wrong; you think only about revenge. I understand that based on analogous experience. I didn't think about right or wrong, just shoot to punish. Fortunately, my gun wasn't loaded.

  • @crystalclear5098
    @crystalclear5098 Рік тому +68

    This is so sad. This poor kid was in fear of his life due to overhearing his dad say he is going to burn the house down, then when the fighting between his Dad and step mum would have put him into a PTSD feeling of dread. And the poor kid thought life was like a video game and his Dad would get another life. This kid has been so wronged by society, just for being born into a non desirable family. A complete tragedy. I am slightly surprised by your analysis. To be in fear of your life in your home, then the trauma of adults fighting heightening that fear. Maybe he was protecting himself and his sister in his mind

  • @farmcat3198
    @farmcat3198 Рік тому +279

    Having grown up with a less intense version of that dad, I can empathize with the kid's decision. It doesn't excuse it, but I can certainly understand it. It's a long endurance run to survive in that type of environment. Karma does finally bite these people, but damn it can be a long wait for the karmic wheel to land on their number.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Рік тому +7

      Amen.

    • @J.ROD_CLASSIFIED
      @J.ROD_CLASSIFIED Рік тому +10

      There is no such thing as a karmic wheel, its all probability.

    • @ponohawelu4608
      @ponohawelu4608 Рік тому +18

      Best wishes for you. It's impossible to understand how fathers can put their children through the trauma that they often do. Such cowardly bullies.

    • @farmcat3198
      @farmcat3198 Рік тому +16

      @@J.ROD_CLASSIFIED I have two words for you, and they aren't "Happy Birthday!"

    • @frankeinstein7990
      @frankeinstein7990 Рік тому +4

      @@farmcat3198 There is no such thing as Karma. It's all childish wishful thinking. Go find something better to do.

  • @yappysgirl5573
    @yappysgirl5573 Рік тому +58

    It seems like it should be considered self defense when you are only 10, grow up seeing this level of violent and dysfunctional behavior, and hear your violent father state that he will burn the house down after removing the batteries from the smoke detectors. And you know that there is no one else to keep it from happening. I can't imagine the level of fear the kid must've experienced, and he probably felt like he had no choice. However, of course he needs treatment and help so he might have a slim chance of turning his young life around

  • @lauren1779
    @lauren1779 Рік тому +58

    Poor boy I hope someday he finds peace in his life

    • @marilynevans8436
      @marilynevans8436 Рік тому

      That child will never be a functioning member of society

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 Рік тому +56

    I ran counseling groups for over 2300 violent men during a four year period in the 1990's. One thing I learned from this was the obvious fact mentioned by Dr. Grande: Children learn from their parents, the good and the bad. A big part of how abusive behavior becomes a cycle is a result of this.
    I hope Joseph can find a path to healthy behavior. I think his terrible act of killing his terrible father was a simple case of self-preservation in the face of his father's threat to burn down the house.
    Ironically, the father taught Joseph what to do. This case is complex and heart-breaking.
    I remember when this case happened. Thanks, Doctor, for shining your light on this.

  • @robinthrill3r7
    @robinthrill3r7 Рік тому +170

    All children deserve *parents* but not all parents *deserve* children. Period.

    • @tski3458
      @tski3458 Рік тому +5

      Good parents that is.

    • @daniellavaladez7820
      @daniellavaladez7820 Рік тому +13

      Correction: All children deserve *good* parents.

    • @lisabradford8180
      @lisabradford8180 Рік тому +4

      🎯

    • @traybern
      @traybern Рік тому +1

      It has NOTHING to do with DESERVING!!!

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +9

      I dont have good parents so I cringe when I hear all children deserve parents. I always think people without parents or family are lucky people. Family is the root of your pain.

  • @kimberlyroland9394
    @kimberlyroland9394 Рік тому +44

    Absolutely. My late brother was born FASD and his whole life was .... struggle, violence, homelessness, destruction.... that's the story for over 80% FAS adults- even when they have early resources and proper guardians. Very sad, but I do not expect this child will ever have much a "successful " life experience.😢.

    • @BobbiGail
      @BobbiGail Рік тому +10

      Took me a LONG time to find this comment. It does seem many ppl haven't encountered FAS. I agree with your assessment, sad as it is.

    • @murphychurch8251
      @murphychurch8251 Рік тому +14

      My sister was friends with a girl that had FAS, that was back in primary school in the early 90s. She had so many challenges because of her biological parents, but was a really sweet and nice girl. Her foster parents adopted her and she was so happy to have a family and adoptive siblings. But she was very gullible and easy to manipulate, so I'm dreading what her life has developed into later on. My sister back then was shocked how easy some nasty kids could come along and talk her into bad ideas. My sis, as a child, noticed how the girl made no difference in trust between a friend of several years and complete strangers. Horrifying to think what could happen in the lives of FAS affected people even if they are not violent themselves.

    • @kimberlyroland9394
      @kimberlyroland9394 Рік тому +9

      @Murphy Church my brother was very very gullible... he let some random "friends" tattoo his entire face with scribble scrabble about 5 years before his passing. He was such a handsome man .... that's an anger I still carry today 🙃.

    • @Bojan_V
      @Bojan_V Рік тому

      What is FAS or FASD?

    • @kimberlyroland9394
      @kimberlyroland9394 Рік тому +6

      @@Bojan_V Fetal alcohol syndrome/ disorders.
      Incurable brain damage caused by a mother's substance use during pregnancy.

  • @alyciacooper2
    @alyciacooper2 Рік тому +68

    The kid saved society. I’m sorry that he was neglected. I hope he’s gotten the help he needs today.

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube Рік тому +14

      Yeah oh no one less National Socialist leader :/ feel bad for the kid but the world is a better place

    • @melistasy
      @melistasy Рік тому +5

      Yes, i hope he gets help and stay in prison. It's safer that way

    • @alyciacooper2
      @alyciacooper2 Рік тому +5

      @@melistasy he won’t be there forever. What I hope is that he gets therapy before he returns to society.

    • @AnAdorableWombat1
      @AnAdorableWombat1 11 місяців тому

      He saved society???? Hmmm...what about the rest of the black/white supremacists running around?

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@melistasyHe should have never been sent there in the first place. If you had compassion, you'd agree with me

  • @GenXfrom75
    @GenXfrom75 Рік тому +69

    That poor child!! 😢I hope he gets actual psychological help for his trauma and can go on to live a good life, full of ACTUAL love and respect. This boy had all the odds stacked against him from the time he was a tiny fetus. He deserves a chance. 💔

  • @andreasrau2161
    @andreasrau2161 Рік тому +20

    Good evening, Dr. Grande!
    Joseph never had a chance and I have no sympathy for his father.
    The world is better off without Jeff.
    But ten years in a juvenile detention facility won't improve his behavior or personality after a youth of being exposed to drugs, violence and squalor.
    However, there are no treatment centers for kids like Joseph.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @judiruthmeredith6427
    @judiruthmeredith6427 Рік тому +28

    The state failed this child by not terminating parental rights. The father should never have had custody

    • @olilumgbalu5653
      @olilumgbalu5653 Рік тому +4

      Everybody puts their best face forward in court, and at the time, the father was employed.

  • @kellyyork3898
    @kellyyork3898 Рік тому +42

    I’m on “Team Kid”.

  • @babyslug
    @babyslug Рік тому +17

    Im a therapist and work with mostly kids. When given a diagnosis of adhd and behaviors like this I often wonder if it’s adhd or PTSD. as the symptoms can be very similar and often misdiagnosed. I hope this child gets mental health treatment. Thank you for sharing Dr. Grande!

    • @cdow9032
      @cdow9032 Рік тому +2

      I completely agree with you! My Grandson has suffered horrible mental and physical abuse, by my Son and his enabling wife. I finally had to call CPS when he choked him twice, in front of me, and then lwft marks from a belt beating. That poor kid didnt stand a chance from the moment he was born of a drug addicted mother. Who then deserted him. The lid always gets tbe label. My grandson has adhd, and ODD. I would guess, PTSTD as well. He is now with his mom, but she still struggles emotionally. He is in Therapy, and I'm working on getting him into a group therapy.
      This little boy's story is so sad. Jail is not the place for him with out intense therapy.

    • @quaver1239
      @quaver1239 Рік тому +1

      @baby slug: Good thinking. Grow up with violence; live a fear-filled childhood; the fear remains and PTSD takes over.

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому

      ​@@cdow9032Jail is not a place for any 10 year old as far as i'm concerned.

  • @AndisweatherCenter
    @AndisweatherCenter Рік тому +5

    I could completely relate to way Joseph did what he did. I grew up in a very abusive household and I had to defend myself numerous times from my stepfather including picking up a knife to threaten him with it while he was beating me.
    I literally had to pick up a knife to stop my stepfather from beating me when I was only 12 years old.

  • @sallyoakes7709
    @sallyoakes7709 Рік тому +35

    Now I just hope he's not fiurther traumatized by how he's treated in juvie. Yes, hold him accountable, but anyone can see that this boy needed HELP - not to be written off and just punished. How about giving him decent counseling and psychiactric help? Juvie says they do that, but I don't believe it. and there are countless others being penalized without counseling or any other (or precious little) support.

    • @wordsbymaribeja1470
      @wordsbymaribeja1470 Рік тому +2

      Precisely my thoughts.

    • @jturtle5318
      @jturtle5318 Рік тому +1

      He needed therapeutic foster care.

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому

      He should not have been held criminally responsible because of his age alone but there should be intervention and therapy avaliable for children his age who committ these types of crimes instead of sending them to prison

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette Рік тому +22

    Good for the kid. Enjoy your Easter Sunday 2023, Dr. Grande.

  • @nessuno9945
    @nessuno9945 Рік тому +9

    Joseph shot his father out of self-defense. His father said he would burn the house down, Joseph didn"t want to be burned alive.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 Рік тому +16

    Oh my dear friend Dr Grande, thanks so much for your video..
    I think Joseph was doomed from before birth.
    He had no chance to form lasting relationships.
    Such sadness for a child to deal with.

  • @RoseNZieg
    @RoseNZieg Рік тому +4

    it is so weird that in some cases, a weird smell in the house would get the cps to move so fast. yet, in some cases, nothing is done even when there are stacks of reports of abuse and/or neglect.

  • @laurie113
    @laurie113 Рік тому +14

    Joseph has wisdom beyond belief. Justice and Punishment are two different things. He’s been Punished enough. He’s not sick. Just unloved and uncared for. How many lives does a person have is too big a question for a ten year old.

  • @tbagatelle
    @tbagatelle Рік тому +15

    The best part of this video is Dr. Grande’s analysis of the father’s political ambitions. The subtle humor in these videos along with the deadpan delivery is what brings me back for more.

  • @drdr76
    @drdr76 Рік тому +21

    What kid would not act like this with a father like that? I had a physically abusive father. I know what this is like. I sometimes fantasized about killing him because he was so abusive to me, my siblings, and my mother. People who have not experienced being raised by one or more abusive parents have NO idea. As far as the water district job goes, some of those districts are little more than a scam of taxpayers when you see how much money they make...and virtually recession proof job--people have to have water whether for a home or farm.

  • @tomkitchen9457
    @tomkitchen9457 Рік тому +26

    I hope someone has given that boy a medal.

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 Рік тому +149

    I can't help but feel bad for Joseph. If he had been raised in a normal home he no doubt would have been a completely different child. He was at a disadvantage before he was ever born. I think Joseph was terrified he'd end up with his father after the split and for whatever reason he didn't want that. So in his immature mind he thought by killing his father he would automatically end up with his stepmother. He no doubt didn't think far enough ahead regarding the consequences of his actions.

    • @jim6038
      @jim6038 Рік тому

      I wonder if other people have such concern for children raised in houses of communist and other authoritarian, totalitarian and murderous ideologies. Nazi is an easy go to, but Communists are just as bad. Both ideologies should be erased from humnaities future

    • @brad-hj4nj
      @brad-hj4nj Рік тому +4

      Or... Maybe he did. Being abused as a child has life long consequences and those who know, know that doing the right thing, is quite the contrary.

    • @amberriley7633
      @amberriley7633 Рік тому +17

      @@brad-hj4nj he Is 10 , of course he didn’t think of the consequences or fully understand the gravity of the situation

    • @dariamancini963
      @dariamancini963 Рік тому

      Did the stepmom want him? I wish his Mom had consequences for abusing drugs while pregnant and drinking and causing this kid brain damage

    • @LIVTOMCHUROO
      @LIVTOMCHUROO Рік тому

      The vast majority of kids in America that kill their parents are from totally normal homes, don't look at the pictures of his father in a stupid Nazi uniform and judge him so completely.
      America is a nation of violence.

  • @JHjh88
    @JHjh88 Рік тому +5

    Great video Dr Grande. I really feel for the little boy. The father sounds vile.

  • @Peemanufacture
    @Peemanufacture Рік тому +46

    Your videos have become an integral part of my day.

  • @jimc.goodfellas226
    @jimc.goodfellas226 Рік тому +23

    Happy Easter friends
    Dr Grande always delivers at least one acerbic humor line in each video that makes me chuckle

  • @barbedwire_lace2160
    @barbedwire_lace2160 Рік тому +5

    The damage to this child started in the womb and continued through to the fatal incident. 😢

  • @buttercatpaws9674
    @buttercatpaws9674 Рік тому +16

    Doc, this case study is an entire textbook. Heartbreaking actually. As always appreciate you, love ya🐈🐾🐣

  • @TheFakeyCakeMaker
    @TheFakeyCakeMaker Рік тому +10

    10 years was enough, hopefully he can be rehabilitated and come to society with his whole life ahead of him. Poor little fella. ❤

    • @tadonplane8265
      @tadonplane8265 Рік тому +2

      I don’t have much faith in juvenile hall rehabilitation.

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому

      It was 10 years too much as far as i'm concerned. I can't believe some countries 10 year olds to prison (In this case juvenile hall, but still)

  • @wingv313
    @wingv313 Рік тому +5

    I watched the documentary on this story. My heart breaks for the son.💔 Sadly, the grandmother still doesn’t believe that her sons beliefs & extremism caused her grandson to kill his own father. She blames his mental issues only. Maybe if he wasn’t suffering so much at home, he would have had a chance. These extreme beliefs cause death & damage globally….so sad that our world can fall victim to many hateful ways. History repeats itself when we don’t learn from it.

  • @stephaniekanoun4409
    @stephaniekanoun4409 Рік тому +18

    Thanks for the video, Dr. G! I hope that Joseph got the proper care he needed to develop into an adult. Considering everything he had been subjected to, I'm sure he needed a lot of intervention/help.

  • @ruthstevens8805
    @ruthstevens8805 Рік тому +21

    My heart breaks for this boy. I really hope he gets the help he needs: Not punishment , he sounds like he is suffering.

  • @janakakumara3836
    @janakakumara3836 Рік тому +9

    “The workings of Karma are both profound and subtle” -The Mahabharata

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Рік тому +4

    Heartbreaking on so many levels.😢 I hope this child can be rehabilitated.
    Happy Monday, Dr. Grande. I hope you have a wonderful week ahead.❤

  • @preyanuchpromhong3777
    @preyanuchpromhong3777 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the presentation and analysis..
    I agree with your assessment.. Authorities better keep monitoring him when he is eventually released.

  • @elainearchibald9020
    @elainearchibald9020 Рік тому +15

    Thank you Dr. Grande, Joseph didn't have much of a chance. Very sad scenario. I hope that Joseph found therapy and treatment. Happy Easter to you and your family!

  • @ek5384
    @ek5384 Рік тому +4

    That child was the epitome of underprivileged. There was truly no way on earth he would not end up in prison.

  • @jackiegrice714
    @jackiegrice714 Рік тому +20

    Maybe this is simplistic, but two wrongs don’t make a right. I believe this is true, but I also believe nobody ever taught Joseph that. I agree that Joseph is too dangerous to be left free in society right now. I also believe that his father played an important role in ensuring this. Thank you for covering this, Dr. Grande.

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому +1

      He was NEVER dangerous and should've never been locked up. Jail is not a place for 10 year olds, i don't care what the crime is, it ain't right. He is the actual victim here and we should all acknowledge that, i have no sympathy for his father!

  • @kathycochran544
    @kathycochran544 Рік тому +12

    You're absolutely right Dr.Granda , how did Joseph even stand a chance.

    • @silverlining6259
      @silverlining6259 Рік тому

      Many of us go thru hell as kids and don’t do things like that.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому

      ​@@silverlining6259 Yes, but some abused kids do terrible things. I did not do terrible things myself but it is one outcome.

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 Рік тому +9

    Never had a chance. The juvenile facility was the best place he'd ever lived in his short life, including before he was born.

    • @johnnyearp52
      @johnnyearp52 Рік тому +1

      It might have been. I thought the mental hospital was the best place I ever lived. Granted that the mental hospital was better than juvenile prison.

  • @KristiWilson
    @KristiWilson Рік тому +5

    That little boy was doomed from the womb. The effects of drugs and alcohol on a baby are devastating mentally and physically. I hope he is able to get some help and live a more stable life.

  • @Jessica-iq6kj
    @Jessica-iq6kj Рік тому +11

    The dad threatened to burn the house down with them in it... I feel like his son was scared and was trying to remedy the situation, thinking he'd injure his dad to teach him a lesson. He definitely needs to have consequences and some intense therapy. Hopefully, he can be rehabilitated and grow up to be a decent member of society. What an awful situation. I know the kid was a bully and out of control, but he was a victim, too. It seems obvious that he didn't fully comprehend the gravity of what he had done.

  • @takeAstabzzz
    @takeAstabzzz Рік тому +23

    Thanks for the content, Doctor G! Been falling asleep to your content for years now and I mean that in the best possible way lol you've got the most calming voice and your videos drop right on cue at 12am midnight (UK time). Happy Easter to you and your family.

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 Рік тому +8

    “… could be triggered by almost anything…”
    Imagine being around someone who didn’t need drugs to do this.

  • @culturalobserver8721
    @culturalobserver8721 Рік тому +7

    I’m originally from Southern California (Orange County) and about 23 years ago, for a time I worked in Riverside county. I can tell you that although Riverside has some decent neighborhoods, there are some seedy areas! And ironically, in spite of SoCal being extremely diverse ethnically, some desert communities out there have some home grown neo-Nazi groups, whose members are most likely very poor, with various anti-social behaviors. One has a slim chance at having a secure upbringing growing up in that kind of environment with reckless, angry and addicted parents. Sounds like Joseph is definitely guilty, but I will be praying for Joseph. There still may be hope for the boy. 🙏💕

  • @bjh7924
    @bjh7924 Рік тому +2

    Spot on as always, Doc - understanding why doesn't mean you have to be understanding.
    Great channel (...& they say Americans don't get sarcasm..!) 👏

  • @Cassxowary
    @Cassxowary Рік тому +8

    Hurt people hurt all... hope the kid is ok and in a better place now...

  • @j.h.6081
    @j.h.6081 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this video Dr. Grande. I remember hearing about this kid and wonder what his life is like now.

  • @rachelb315
    @rachelb315 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for covering this case. Good analysis of what happened. These types of situations are very tragic and dangerous. As you said, he wasn't given much of a chance in life.

  • @brad-hj4nj
    @brad-hj4nj Рік тому +38

    As a rule of thumb if someone's barely made it into double digits it begs the question: how did the parents fuck up so badly they had the inclination to do it in the first place?

    • @balls9052
      @balls9052 Рік тому +7

      Drugs and abuse

    • @DigitalMediaWorldUSA
      @DigitalMediaWorldUSA Рік тому

      ​@@balls9052hence why White Supremacist MAGAts should not be allowed around children and guns.

  • @jennyjay7816
    @jennyjay7816 Рік тому +15

    Thank you for covering this case ❤

  • @BobbiGail
    @BobbiGail Рік тому +8

    Super sad, and facts do show (the treatment of teachers, other classmates, ppl in general) that this poor kid is a danger to society. Is it possible he can get some EFFECTIVE treatment in juvi? Since his mom was doing so so so much harm to him during her pregnancy, there is a chance this kid should always be supervised. Or we will be hearing Dr G tell us about his next victims and wonder why we didn't protect other innocents while we could.

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 Рік тому +11

    Follow up on where Joseph is after his treatments & therapy & his future ... hope he will become a decent member of society for his own sake & the people he comes in contact with

    • @bodgerdavesumner
      @bodgerdavesumner Рік тому +2

      The law has not seen the last of Joseph, unfortunately for the child.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому

      @@bodgerdavesumner I believe you.

  • @lynnzena4508
    @lynnzena4508 Рік тому +12

    Thanks, Dr. Grande. You always make my day better! 😊

  • @jeanholmes7976
    @jeanholmes7976 Рік тому +4

    Dear Dr. Grande, Happy Easter to you and your family!! Thank you always for your dedication to work. Blessings, from Jean 💕🌸🌹

  • @STR82DVD
    @STR82DVD Рік тому +40

    The father set the scene for the violence that occurred. Nature or nurture Doc?
    Thanks for the fantastic thought provoking content Doc. 🙏 Spring has finally sprung in Ottawa Doc! 👍

    • @mrtim5363
      @mrtim5363 Рік тому +4

      Father nurtured nature.

  • @dianajane6185
    @dianajane6185 Рік тому +7

    Thank you, Dr. Grande. I had forgotten that you often gift us with a particularly thorny puzzle to chew over on special occasions. This one is a terrifying example of the consequences of really stupid parenting. More like monstering. And home schooling, too. Oh dear. It sounds like someone was bound to take one in the head sooner or later. It kind of stood out to me Joseph saying that he shot his dad in the ear. That statement alone makes me wonder if he really understood the full reality of what he was doing. And hey you‘ve really challenged me in terms of feeling sad that this particular individual lost his…life!
    I hope Joseph will get a decade of corrective experiences, becomes a better person. Happy Easter to you and yours. Thank you for your consistently excellent, thoughtful content.

  • @ember1794
    @ember1794 Рік тому +4

    Just what he was exposed to during his mother's pregnancy with him was enough to damage him for life! Let alone what followed afterwards! Poor kid 😢!!

  • @PollyAlice2000
    @PollyAlice2000 Рік тому +10

    I really hope that somehow, some way, that little boy will get the help he needs to straighten out his thinking.

  • @kennethkunz2449
    @kennethkunz2449 Рік тому +20

    Is it actually ethical to punish Joseph? Hasn't he been punished enough - by being repeatedly subjected to several severe forms of lifelong, humiliating childhood trauma? Personally, I am in a quandary as to how this child can now be helped. Can he ever live a normal life of self-fulfilment and self-actualization? Can he ever be productively integrated into society? Probably not. But 10 years of jail will not help that. There must be another way...but as for his crime: when he blew his dad's brains out, Joseph was only protecting himself. After all, the dad said he would deactivate the smoke alarms and burn the house down. If I was an impressionable, traumatized 10-year-old boy, in order to save myself and the family, I might not see another way than to avail myself of the dad's conveniently loaded gun, and likewise neutralize him by splattering his brains all over the couch. The kid solved the problem, but created a new set of problems.

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Рік тому

      Can't have him out wandering around in society. won't end well. Govt psych care and incarceration are the best options I can see.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion Рік тому +5

      You can't just turn him loose. He might go into the world thinking homicide is just what you do when someone causes you problems.

    • @gorillaguerillaDK
      @gorillaguerillaDK Рік тому

      @@MakerInMotion
      There’s a difference between committing him to a mental health facility and a prison for adolescents!

    • @kennethkunz2449
      @kennethkunz2449 Рік тому

      @@MakerInMotion Very much agreed!

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому

      ​@@kennethkunz2449It is better to not lock up a 10 yr old

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Рік тому +9

    Thank you for all the great videos, Dr. Grande. I enjoy them so much.❤

  • @susanmann5286
    @susanmann5286 Рік тому +6

    What type of treatment will this child actually receive?

  • @malumusera
    @malumusera Рік тому +2

    Good night (very late here) from the Canary Islands, doc!

  • @SocratesINl
    @SocratesINl Рік тому +1

    Thank you Dr. Grande. I always enjoy your work very much. Both the clarity of your analysis; the art of summarizing even difficult histories perfectly in a few minutes and the blissfully dry humor.
    In my country (The Netherlands) Joseph would not be punished, but helped.
    Dutch Law: Minimum age
    Article 486 of the Code of Criminal Procedure (Sv) stipulates that 'no one can be prosecuted for an offense committed before he has reached the age of twelve.' This concerns a 'legally non-rebuttable presumption of non-responsibility on the grounds of youth'. It concerns a general ground for exclusion from punishment on which the youth under the age of twelve can invoke if he is being prosecuted for a criminal offence. The Public Prosecution Service is then inadmissible in its prosecution. However, the committed offense remains punishable. Only the prosecution of a minor is excluded, not the detection of the criminal offense.
    Investigative powers and coercive measures can therefore be applied by the police and the judiciary against the suspect under the age of twelve. For example, they can arrest, search and interrogate the juvenile, and objects can be seized from him. The committed offense is also a signal that something is going wrong in the upbringing of the juvenile. That is why the police will always make a concern report to the advice and reporting center for domestic violence and child abuse of Safe Home. In addition, the police also register all crimes committed by under-12s in its Client Tracking System.
    The way 'justice' works for non adults in the USA always baffles me.

  • @78twood
    @78twood Рік тому +3

    Wow! What will happen to him after the 10 years? He needs some real help! Psychiatric, counseling etc

  • @historicaustraliaadventures
    @historicaustraliaadventures Рік тому +6

    Happy Easter Dr I hope you're having a lovely weekend with your family. Thank you for all of your interesting videos. 🎉🇦🇺

  • @dorisashbrook2047
    @dorisashbrook2047 Рік тому +2

    Dr. Grande, I so enjoy your analyses and delivery.

  • @Shannonbarnesdr1
    @Shannonbarnesdr1 Рік тому +9

    this kid seems like he was in fear for his life, he was abused, and his '' dad'' said he was goin to burn the house down, so it sounds like he intended on possibly killing his son and writing it off as an accident or such.

  • @ALLINKNOTS
    @ALLINKNOTS Рік тому +8

    His grandmother was a science teacher at my junior high. She was a weird lady

    • @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139
      @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 Рік тому

      Well if she was the grandma on the father's side, she is one of the parents responsible for raising a literal nazi so yeah, probably not 100 there either.

  • @annazaman9657
    @annazaman9657 Рік тому +7

    This kid was bound to end up like this. Great adults around him and Wonderful ideals. Poor Joseph

  • @padussia
    @padussia Рік тому +3

    I agree with this commentary. He was TOO dangerous to be society after that.

  • @Delightfully_Bitchy
    @Delightfully_Bitchy Рік тому +7

    You know, I can't help but feel the father had it coming.

  • @bunbun4037
    @bunbun4037 Рік тому +3

    "Grande Shirts... perfect for the professional..perfect for the office"...there I said it!!😂😂😁😁😁👏🏾👏🏾👍🏽👍🏽💖

  • @patmuscarella8279
    @patmuscarella8279 Рік тому +9

    I do agree with you Dr. Grande in that he is to dangerous to be free. Iam not sure10 yrs will help him make a turn towards acceptable behavior. Of course iam not qualified to diagnose but It sounds like from your description there could be permanent an unreversable damage to this poor child. My prayers go out to him. Hopfully he can find some peace.

    • @BobbiGail
      @BobbiGail Рік тому +2

      Yes, and these comments are rare here. Ppl need to remember that he tried to STRANGLE his teacher and run from school (etc). His troubles are deep. This is not a cute year long therapy session type of "fix."

    • @constancegoodwill2416
      @constancegoodwill2416 Рік тому +2

      People do change. It's harder the older you are. This kid didn't have a safe home environment and his parents literally taught him the behaviours he displayed. He's experienced a lot of neglect and trauma which actually changes your brain, it can be seen on MRI scans. However through the process of neuroplasticity, with the right support, this can be remedied. His brain is still developing and won't stop growing until he is approximately 25 so there is a good chance he can learn new ways of reacting to frustrations. I can't believe how many people are writing off this little boy based on their own ignorant feelings rather than facts.

    • @patmuscarella8279
      @patmuscarella8279 Рік тому

      Thank you. I don't know a lot about how people "work". I found your response interesting an gives us hope for this little boy.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Рік тому +7

    So sad but he planned it & knew what he was doing. Irresponsible father to keep a loaded gun around, disaster all around. Good points again. Thanks Dr G😊🤍🤍

  • @LaniLanilei
    @LaniLanilei Рік тому +2

    Hi Dr Grande. What a nice surprise an earlier posting. You are awesome. ❤

  • @carolyncasey8960
    @carolyncasey8960 Рік тому +2

    Jeff had no chance… even in the womb. I feel sorry for this kid.

  • @lariemunoz873
    @lariemunoz873 Рік тому

    Thank you, I really enjoy watching your content !

  • @dr.warnemuende7909
    @dr.warnemuende7909 Рік тому +6

    Sounds like juvenile detention might be the best living environment for this unfortunate child... a real step up from the hostile filth, violence, and depravity of his parents' homes.

    • @Unbreakable245
      @Unbreakable245 10 місяців тому +1

      Should have been in a foster home or something instead. It wasn't right to lock him up i mean he was just 10, i don't care what a 10 year old does, it just is not right...

  • @kiarose5792
    @kiarose5792 Рік тому +2

    Moral of the story the hate you give always comes back around to you

  • @thesilversurfer7136
    @thesilversurfer7136 Рік тому

    I have been watching your videos and have to say they have gotten better and better.

  • @KaeMcSpadden
    @KaeMcSpadden Рік тому +19

    One of the few cases where I feel more sympathy for the perpetrator thank the victim.

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 Рік тому

    Good evening Dr Grande
    Excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.
    Happy Easter.

  • @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786
    @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786 Рік тому

    Really good stuff Dr G.

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 Рік тому +11

    Joseph was just supposed to take out the garbage but he… well actually he did what he was told.

  • @YayaSweetie
    @YayaSweetie Рік тому +6

    These cases make me think of batters wife syndrome. I feel like that should be extended to children.
    Abuse as an adult is mind fucking but as a child while your brain is still developing that would be tenfold.
    I don't think you can hold a 10 year old abused child responsible for something like this.
    Does he need some kind of intervention? Absolutely. Prison? No.
    Raising a violent hurting child in prison will only make things worse.

  • @larrysmith2655
    @larrysmith2655 Рік тому +1

    Imagine living a household full of hate, then going to school and seeing that children get along. You’d be confused as hell as a child.

  • @tessalimits8893
    @tessalimits8893 Рік тому

    Happy Easter Doc!

  • @ambam90
    @ambam90 Рік тому +1

    I grew up around similar people. My heart goes out to him.