I just started playing golf. I bought a nice used ping driver and wasnt hitting nearly as well as my irons. I measures it and its 47". I choked up on the shaft and cut a few inches off and today I was sending nukes straight down the fairway. Felt really nice thank you for your amazing advice.
Great info. Especially after you've heard it for the 3rd time :) Length measurement procedure starts at 6:40 It's a starting point for the irons only!! Length measured is for 5 iron Add 1/2 inch for longer irons than the 5 and subtract 1/2 inch for shorter ones. This is the "standard" adjustments in lengths He prefers 3/8 inch increments. Doesn't say anything about single length irons Driver length should be based on players ability not by the "standard" 45 or 46 inch lengths the manufacturers use Nothing mentioned about club lengths for clubs other than the irons and the driver. Just saved you 8 minutes of your life You're welcome :)
hi tom , fantastic vlog which has got me thinking , im 5 ft 7 and wrist to floor is 32 in , I play off 9 , since watching this I have gone to the practice range and gripped down on my driver and hit golf balls until I've found a position now where if I choke down 1 1/2 inchs on my driver I now hit the middle more consistently , I use a titliest 910 d2 , would you suggest that I stick to choking down or as this is adjustable getting a 43 1/2 inch shaft , any thoughts would be really appreciated , kind regards jules
so being a taller golfer of 6'5 and having a passion for building clubs for a decade; I wanted to ask about creating irons in the 1.5 inch longer or 2 inch longer irons that possess a lower torque shaft, light overall weight profile, iam certainly more of a hitter of the ball in swing characteristic; I am searching for longer irons overall little weight to maintain physical control and to prevent fatigue throughout a evening of golf. but most shafts in lower weights i.e 80, 70 grams are mainly high launch profiles...what would you recommend...?
Will: While it is true that longer length irons can increase the torque on the club and shaft, it is not a significant increase over the normal swing forces at normal lengths so there is no need to think about trying to do anything to offset it. A much bigger problem is to try to find lighter heads or to try to push yourself to not go so long with your length that it makes the swingweight/head weight feel get way too high and adversely affect your swing tempo and timing. A lot of people who need longer length irons are finding if they don’t go quite as long as they think they should with the 4, 5 irons and then use 3/8” increments between the irons through the set, or even ¼” increments, this gives the tall person the comfort they seek over the ball with the higher loft irons which are the ones that were more of a problem for comfort because of your height.
I throughly agree with the 3/8 incremental iron ideal; I believe I've been brain washed into only using 0.5 increments due to working with them mainly over the years. I will certainly implement the 3/8" and see if this encourages better results. But I should express that I am primary playing the bridgestone j 36 cb irons with xp 105 shafts at 1.5 over length, I state the model of irons due to the lack of uniform standards throughout the industry with respect to the evolution of golf irons throughout the years and find them very comfortable but they possess higher swingweights, which is great for a period of time, but to maintain shot consistency with them, id have to hit the gym everyday, this isn't ideal for my current lifestyle at the moment ...but you ve made a great point and i will certainly attempt the incremental change. I'd love to find a source where the head wts. of irons could be produced for custom orders. Thanks again..really enjoyed your video. Best Regards Will
I'm struggling with finding a good Driver Length. I'm 6-2. When I use a standard 45, I tend to rub holes into my glove where the butt rubs into the heel of my hand. When I choke-up and bend over more, I LOSE Control and Distance.. it feels very unnatural to bend over that much.
Hi Tom, I've been playing a standard length PX6.0 LZ shaft and love it. But at two recent fittings I've been told I should be playing a shaft 1/2 inch longer. (I'm 6ft1 with a wrist to floor of "37) my concern is - will this extra 1/2 inch effect the shaft flex, especially by moving the middle PX ''loading zone'' that makes this shaft so likeable half inch. I've read alot of mixed answers via the net. If it does effect it, can it be hard stepped even though it's been lengthend?. Your advice would be greatly apprieciated - Many thanks
Tom, great video and information here, but doesn't this separation in fitting for irons and woods possibly create a large gap between the golfer's lowest lofted hybrid and their highest lofted fairway? If, say, my driver was 44", one inch separation gets me to 41" in my 7 wood, but a 38 inch 5 iron gapped up once to a 24* hybrid puts that length at 38.5, max, if keeping hybrids in the iron gapping. Is there a way to solve that issue?
Ryan Trapasso There really is no relationship from a technical fitting standpoint between the length of a golfer's driver/woods and the length of his irons. There are golfers whose best fit in the irons may be a 40" #5 iron whose best fit for the driver could be 43". Same as there can be a golfer whose best comfort fit in the irons may be a 37" #5 iron but by virtue of him having exactly the right swing characteristics for control, his best driver length could be 45". Driver/Woods and Irons are two totally different "animals" when it comes to fitting, which is pretty much what I am saying here in the video when I say fit the irons for comfort and the driver/woods for swing ability.
I am confused about fitting for static length of clubs. I have clubs that were built for me 1 inch longer than standard (my wrist to floor length is a little over 38 inches while common belief is the 7 iron standard length is 37 inches). My 7 iron swing weight with TT XP-95 R300 shafts is D5. Lie angle set at 2 degrees upright. A different fitter is now telling me this setup is wrong. He says it's better to stay closer to standard length and adjust the lie angle instead to set the bottom of my swing. He says it also stiffens the shaft by lengthening them. Confusion reigns! What to do? There seems to be more than one philosophy regarding all this. Is wrist to floor a useless measurement?
David Cataldo , your comment was a waste of your time too. Since you are such a public advocate of not having your time wasted, don’t be a hypocrite. So wasteful.
I just started playing golf. I bought a nice used ping driver and wasnt hitting nearly as well as my irons. I measures it and its 47". I choked up on the shaft and cut a few inches off and today I was sending nukes straight down the fairway. Felt really nice thank you for your amazing advice.
05:45 Here we go... THANKS !! ;)
Great info. Especially after you've heard it for the 3rd time :)
Length measurement procedure starts at 6:40
It's a starting point for the irons only!!
Length measured is for 5 iron
Add 1/2 inch for longer irons than the 5 and subtract 1/2 inch for shorter ones. This is the "standard" adjustments in lengths
He prefers 3/8 inch increments. Doesn't say anything about single length irons
Driver length should be based on players ability not by the "standard" 45 or 46 inch lengths the manufacturers use
Nothing mentioned about club lengths for clubs other than the irons and the driver.
Just saved you 8 minutes of your life
You're welcome :)
Excellent video! Very well explained.
Good vid Tom going for my PING i200 iron fitting tomorrow !
this cat knows his stuff
Does wrist to floor measurement hold well for the hybrids and specially for driving iron type of clubs?
hi tom , fantastic vlog which has got me thinking , im 5 ft 7 and wrist to floor is 32 in , I play off 9 , since watching this I have gone to the practice range and gripped down on my driver and hit golf balls until I've found a position now where if I choke down 1 1/2 inchs on my driver I now hit the middle more consistently , I use a titliest 910 d2 , would you suggest that I stick to choking down or as this is adjustable getting a 43 1/2 inch shaft , any thoughts would be really appreciated , kind regards jules
Julian Hughes does these pants make my butt look big?
@@HolleyProductions Is that jealousy or you just have nothing of value to add.
@@HolleyProductions It's comfortably erect.
so being a taller golfer of 6'5 and having a passion for building clubs for a decade; I wanted to ask about creating irons in the 1.5 inch longer or 2 inch longer irons that possess a lower torque shaft, light overall weight profile, iam certainly more of a hitter of the ball in swing characteristic; I am searching for longer irons overall little weight to maintain physical control and to prevent fatigue throughout a evening of golf. but most shafts in lower weights i.e 80, 70 grams are mainly high launch profiles...what would you recommend...?
Will:
While it is true that longer length irons can increase the torque on the club and shaft, it is not a significant increase over the normal swing forces at normal lengths so there is no need to think about trying to do anything to offset it. A much bigger problem is to try to find lighter heads or to try to push yourself to not go so long with your length that it makes the swingweight/head weight feel get way too high and adversely affect your swing tempo and timing. A lot of people who need longer length irons are finding if they don’t go quite as long as they think they should with the 4, 5 irons and then use 3/8” increments between the irons through the set, or even ¼” increments, this gives the tall person the comfort they seek over the ball with the higher loft irons which are the ones that were more of a problem for comfort because of your height.
I throughly agree with the 3/8 incremental iron ideal; I believe I've been brain washed into only using 0.5 increments due to working with them mainly over the years. I will certainly implement the 3/8" and see if this encourages better results. But I should express that I am primary playing the bridgestone j 36 cb irons with xp 105 shafts at 1.5 over length, I state the model of irons due to the lack of uniform standards throughout the industry with respect to the evolution of golf irons throughout the years and find them very comfortable but they possess higher swingweights, which is great for a period of time, but to maintain shot consistency with them, id have to hit the gym everyday, this isn't ideal for my current lifestyle at the moment ...but you ve made a great point and i will certainly attempt the incremental change.
I'd love to find a source where the head wts. of irons could be produced for custom orders.
Thanks again..really enjoyed your video.
Best Regards
Will
Hi Tom
I,m Carlos club fitter the Sao Bento Golf in Brasil
Very good that informations .
Could you please E Mail the measurement Chart and how to use it possiably showing a Drawing ??
Can I et a copy of your wrist to floor measurements for lengths.
is there anywhere in Ireland that uses your fitting guide. I'm interested in your single length irons
I'm struggling with finding a good Driver Length. I'm 6-2. When I use a standard 45, I tend to rub holes into my glove where the butt rubs into the heel of my hand. When I choke-up and bend over more, I LOSE Control and Distance.. it feels very unnatural to bend over that much.
Hi Tom, I've been playing a standard length PX6.0 LZ shaft and love it. But at two recent fittings I've been told I should be playing a shaft 1/2 inch longer. (I'm 6ft1 with a wrist to floor of "37) my concern is - will this extra 1/2 inch effect the shaft flex, especially by moving the middle PX ''loading zone'' that makes this shaft so likeable half inch. I've read alot of mixed answers via the net. If it does effect it, can it be hard stepped even though it's been lengthend?. Your advice would be greatly apprieciated - Many thanks
Thanks for this.
Good points Tom ...
Thank you.
great video!
thanks!
Tom, great video and information here, but doesn't this separation in fitting for irons and woods possibly create a large gap between the golfer's lowest lofted hybrid and their highest lofted fairway?
If, say, my driver was 44", one inch separation gets me to 41" in my 7 wood, but a 38 inch 5 iron gapped up once to a 24* hybrid puts that length at 38.5, max, if keeping hybrids in the iron gapping. Is there a way to solve that issue?
Ryan Trapasso
There really is no relationship from a technical fitting standpoint between the length of a golfer's driver/woods and the length of his irons. There are golfers whose best fit in the irons may be a 40" #5 iron whose best fit for the driver could be 43". Same as there can be a golfer whose best comfort fit in the irons may be a 37" #5 iron but by virtue of him having exactly the right swing characteristics for control, his best driver length could be 45". Driver/Woods and Irons are two totally different "animals" when it comes to fitting, which is pretty much what I am saying here in the video when I say fit the irons for comfort and the driver/woods for swing ability.
That's so interesting - thanks Tom, appreciate it!
Tom how short have you made drivers?
Is that in relation to an adult?
I am confused about fitting for static length of clubs. I have clubs that were built for me 1 inch longer than standard (my wrist to floor length is a little over 38 inches while common belief is the 7 iron standard length is 37 inches). My 7 iron swing weight with TT XP-95 R300 shafts is D5. Lie angle set at 2 degrees upright. A different fitter is now telling me this setup is wrong. He says it's better to stay closer to standard length and adjust the lie angle instead to set the bottom of my swing. He says it also stiffens the shaft by lengthening them. Confusion reigns! What to do? There seems to be more than one philosophy regarding all this. Is wrist to floor a useless measurement?
how can a longer shaft be stiffer?
Tom, how does this affect the measurement of Single Length Irons?
If all your irons are 7 iron iron length you need calculate the length of your 7 iron for all of them.
"shoulders perfectly level" at 8:59...Clearly right shoulder is about 2 inches higher than left shoulder. Just saying..
Tom, you remind me a little of Eddie Money. Have you ever got that one? Cheers.
Yes Eddie murphy, spitting image
I think tall people should try 1 length irons
Why would you not go with one length? Having different length irons does not make much sense to me.
The teacher from ferris bueller
Lol
interesting
Tom's left shoulder sags a perfect inch lower than his right 😆
My right shoulder does the same because I broke my collarbone and have at titanium plate over it. It has its pros and cons lol
Niles!!!
I bet this guy loves a good onion bagel and lox. Can't explain it
try to explain it. i like bagels and lox too, don't you?
So I guess I should choke down on all my clubs and find the sweet spot. Right ?
I looked up CRAP in the dictionary ... It directed me too your company . Stick to music
You must sell clubs off the shelf.
@@lawrenceblandford8927 I'm a CPGA pro ...this guys an ex drummer from Steve Miller band lol... What a joke ...his clubs are 100% overpriced... Junk
@@mike24819 CPGA pro? They hand out that title like candy. LOL.
@@lawrenceblandford8927 Let's see your accreditation ... Oh that's right you need to make it past grade 5 first ..
@@mike24819 Cmon Mike We're all trying make a living. Doubtful he's taking your customers.
9 minutes of usless comment
9:00 mins. to tell wrist to floor ... what a waste of time
David Cataldo , your comment was a waste of your time too. Since you are such a public advocate of not having your time wasted, don’t be a hypocrite. So wasteful.
Zzzzz. Repeat, repeat.