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Sir Robert John Sawers is a British intelligence officer, diplomat and civil servant. He was Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service MI6, a position he held from November 2009 until November 2014. He was previously the British Permanent Representative to the United Nations from August 2007 to November 2009. Sawers was a key opposition figure against the UK government’s decision not to intervene to a greater degree in Syria during his tenure.
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The former chief of MI6 is now on the board of BP. The revolving door is as well oiled in the UK as it is the US.
You think he should be a manager at Aldi, or what?
@@michaelqdlap - You seem very upset!
@@mattbrown3549 Genuinely curious. I am not a Brit but where do think folks in these agencies retire to? Is a council home a more socially acceptable option for folks who work in the upper echelons of the society?
@@sukritmishra6676 - Their salaries are that good that any normal person would spend their lives living a great life and never again even think about politics. I'd be on the first plane out to Spain looking for a new home and lifestyle.
@@jezzyby47 Fair enough. Or Greece for that matter!
The fact that the MI6 Chief goes on to sit on the board of BP tells you everything you need to know about the British state (or the capitalist state in general).
100 %
It tells you a lot about the strategic value of oil.
What's the issue?
i thought the best part was how he admits working with russia and giving them tech and helping them develop their energy sector is now shown to be the wrong move, but he then says doing the same with iran is a-OK.......stupid
@@peetky8645 he actually said working in Russia was good for the company. When Russia invaded Ukraine it made sense for them to sell their Rosneft shares and exit the JV. I must have missed the part where he said it's a good idea to invest in Iran... I thought western sanctions on Iran forbid that at the moment?
The parallel drawn between sanctions against South Africa and present sanctions of Russia is that the substantial trade between the UK and SA never diminished because Thatcher’s Gvt UK refused to sanction SA.
Considering the amount of red herrings you are throwing here I guess you are a Russian Putinist.
British Prime Minister Johnson chooses protecting the Loot of his Oligarch buddies over Ukrainian Refugees. BORIS JOHNSON ( Putin's enabler ) IS IN "TOTAL PANIC" BECAUSE THE WORLD CAN SEE HE IS THE CARETAKER FOR PUTIN'S ASSETS,AS OPPOSED TO TURNING THESE ASSETS INTO EUROS AND GETTING THESE EUROS INTO POSSESSION OF REFUGEES,ONLY ONE REASON WHY UK PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HOLDS THIS POSITION." IS HIS DEBT TO THE OLIGARCHS" While UK .Prime Minister Boris Johnson acts as caretaker for the loot of Putin's Oligarch lackeys. Predators and human traffickers prey on vulnerable Refugee families.
Ukrainian Refugees must not be marginalised or forgotten ,these families are in a desperate situation and need our help urgently. Time wasting stalling tactics from "Boris the Liar" can not be afforded, if we allow this, the vulnerable victims of Putin will pay the price. Prime Minister Johnson is complicit in the plight of Ukrainian Refugees, Everyone must take a closer look at what's going on. Boris Johnson must be monitored in order to ensure Putin does not get seized assets returned by the back door
Putin's assets that are held by front men / Oligarchs in different parts of the UK must be seized and made available to Refugees in Euros to rebuild their lives, Then a fund to rebuild infrastructure in Ukraine destroyed by Putin.
British Conservative establishment connections to Putin's money and assets in LONDONGRAD requires urgent transparent investigation.
We must take a closer look at this present British Government,
Boris Johnson delays and vacillates when the action needed is clear and obvious TURN OLIGARCHS ASSETS INTO EUROS, AND THEN INTO THE POSSESION OF UKRAINIAN REFUGEES. This action of course creates a monumental Dilemma for Boris Johnson due to the massive amount of Largesse the Conservatives are beholden to the Oligarchs for. The reality is Putin is still pulling this present British gvmnt strings. UNDER PRESENT CONDITIONS THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE WORLD TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
We need to stop pretending that we do not know Putin's footmen the 'OLIGARCHS" and UK Tories led by Johnson are knee deep in kickbacks sleaze and corruption together. Putin's "Laundered Londongrad Loot "will never be put in the hands of Ukrainian displaced Mothers as Euros. Oligarchs and Refugees are connected the solution to one is the other. The problem is Boris will stop this solution at all costs.
What a nice bunch of Boys run the UK "Pass the Caviar Jacob". BORIS JOHNSON CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH THE CRITICAL ACTION NEEDED FOR THE REFUGEES" The Ukrainian refugees need help NOW In view of Boris Johnson track record in relation to the truth or following through on a statement or promise its my view he has no intention whatsoever of seriously stripping the Oligarchs of their Criminal wealth. Hypocrisy of words and no action is of no value Mister Johnson. What is needed is a declaration and action to grab the Oligarchs / Putin's assets in London, plus a clear statement of intent what these funds will be used for.
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@Darren Clapson “Cubans, East Germans, and Russians”. ???? In South Africa? I grew up with the apartheid regime and like most people around the world followed it closely and called for it to end. Never once was it reported that foreign fighters were on the ground in South Africa. Provide your sources or be known as a liar! I challenge you!
@Darren Clapson you don’t know what you’re talking about
@Darren Clapson “enemy pilots” you say? What on earth were they flying?! The fight against Apartheid in SA didn’t happen in the skies. Maybe your SA friends were fighting in Namibia or Angola, where Cuban forces were indeed present. Apartheid SA fought a lot of wars in neighbouring countries under Vorster and Botha (none of which they won) !
I listen to this gentleman and understand that he doesn't understand a damn thing about the domestic political situation in Russia
Clueless. Another goofy liberal fool that have utterly failed in foreign policy. Disgrace to Britain. But he does talk nicely and confidently which is all that the munters in Britain care about.
I'm five minutes in and was getting the same impression. Why act like you know what putin is thinking instead of giving a critical assessment from a former mi6 agent perspective. This is just another attempt at propaganda
@@fullrouge1198 Correct. Sadly, these pathetic bureaucrats think we're stupid. They don't realize that many people are waking up and we're not afraid to speak the truth.
@@ColonelMuppet
U.S.'s Bloody Fingerprints Are All Over Ukraine [YT.]
Indeed , just a spy using propaganda to twist reality.
When a former MI6 chief speaks, listen carefully to what he says, and even more carefully to what he doesn't say.
if you listen to CNN you'll get the same garbage.
So you can Just make it up from there, What source do you find prime resources when finding your information. You said nothing other then you distrust his narrative, so where do you source yours from?
Wisdom. The Truth; but far from the whole Truth. The BBC are not the only ones that operate like this.
Where are you finding your truths?
@@jeremywilliams3465 It's getting more difficult by the day to know who to Trust. I try to watch the news from as many countries as I can, I currently have found some of the Indian reporting and UA-camrs appear to be less biased on the current issues in Russia.
I'm unfamiliar with this gentleman but was he part of MI6 when Blair assured the world that Iraq had WMDs?
Iraq *did* have WMDs, and used them.
It also tried to build a nuclear reactor, in order to produce material for nuclear weapons. Israel -- to the condemnation of most of the world -- destroyed the reactor before it could be used for weapons.
yeah, you got it. He is the first English collaborator to the American Neocon new foreign policy. America , the new Century AKA the Bush policy perfected by Hillary Clinton. Iraq, Syria are his magnum opus. And now he is sitting there expecting us to believe another load of piffle. He left in 2014 so was there pre Maidan time.
@@Inkblot21 Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about mate. You don't know me so don't make ignorant assumptions. All I said was that I'm unfamiliar with this gentleman and I was asking if he was part of MI6 when Blair assured the world that Saddam Hussein was sitting on a stockpile of WMDs. You instruct me to quit blaming everyone and to change myself. For my benefit, could you point out the section of my question where I assign blame? While you're at it, what do you think I need to change? Would you rather I not ask questions about who people are? Would that brighten your rather dim view of me? Cheers friend. Edit: I would also add that I find your conflation of chemical weapons designed to be used on humans with bug spray to be troubling. There's at least one historical figure I can think of that used chemicals designed to kill insects to rather horrific effect.
@@G3FORC3 :As an American listening to the drivel being foisted on us and just my gut feeling about all of this is the the so-called American "intelligence agencies are up to their necks in trouble making.
Russia wants a secure border w/no nato nukes in eastern Europe including the Ukraine.
KEEP THINGS COOL.
That's right...
Starting to smell a bag of rat shit??
As a German born in 1946 serving in the 1960/1970th at the demarcation line as we called it, I am convinced, that after the Berlin Wall fell because Moskau decided that,
the key was there since WW2 endet, we or at least I was surprised, that the reunification was not in the interest of some of "our allies", "we beat them twice, now they are back", "we like Germany so much that we are glad there are 2" etc. The mistakes that led to what we face today lies in the fact, that mainly the American policy staedily pushed Nato eastwards
and in the end right to the door of the Russian Federation! James Baker promised in Febr.1990 talking with Schewatnaze, Gorbatschov that he favors WestGermany stays in
Nato and if the GDR joins in unification no Nato Troups must be stationed there, except German soldiers, and not one inch further East of Nato!
London even insisted shortly before the 2+4 talks in 1990 in Moskau to be allowed carrying out manouevers in the eastern part of Germany, which was turned down by
J.Baker after the German Foreign Minister Genscher drove that night to the Hotel to speak with the US Foreign Minister.
It is clear, historically, that the British policy has been anti-German for more than a century, only the French attitude match that.
Today, better since decades, politicians and the media don't inform the public about the events which led to the war in Ukraine.Why they don't mention that on the
Conference in Bukarest 2008 Merkel and Sarkozy vetoed that Ukraine and Georgia become member of Nato? 2014 the coup d'etat with the help of CIA and MI6,
remember the phone talk between Victoria Newland and the US Ambassador in Kiew about who should be the new Praesident in Ukraine ( f.... the EU).
The US and I guess the Brits started to undermine the Veto and in training and arming the Ukrainian Army, sent " Councellors" etc.
In 2007, but already before, Russian Praesident Putin during the Conference of Security in Munich found fully right harsh words against Nato expansion,
which is an existencial threat to Russia.After the coup d'etat in Febr.2014 the Ukrainian Army attacked and bombed the Donbass where most of the Russian speaking
people live, which cost about 10-14000 lives. The red line for Russia was the continuing pumping of weapons into Ukraine and they acted in Febr.2022.
It was clear to me after Febr.2014 that Moskau will take the Krim with Sevastopol not only to prevent Nato Navy there but the historical fact that it belonged to
Russia since Katharina the Great, like Odessa, the foundation goes back to her, and more important the fight against the German Army twice in 1941 and 1944
where both sides had heavy losses and the Krim laid in ruins like most of the part of Russia westward and south of Moskau down to Stalingrad and Kaukasus.
My conclusion considering the old aim of the British Empire and after the US took over after 1945 is to destroy Russia, get the ressources etc.
Remember Berezinsky: Russia without Ukraine is no longer an Eurasien power.
So, this is no war between Russia and Ukrain, it is a war of US led Nato and EU on the back of the Ukrainians and the people of the EU!
I guess US-Senator Richard Black from Virginia is right in saying: the war was planned by the US, executed bby Russia. That German politicians participate in this "Great Game" is more than shameful, not in my name!
They all underestimate what's gonna happen if "Mother Russia" is in danger! This is not Irak, Syria or Libya!
Russia survived several attacks by Poland, Sweden, France and Germany from the West and Japan from the East.
It backfires already to Europe and will bind China and Russia together, most probably India, the BRICS.
I don't expect that someone from MI6 tells the truth, even if he was in charge before.Britain belongs to the 5 eyes.
The Angloamericans like to play with fire, seems to me, Nato States have the status of Vasalls, nothing else, all this is not in their interest!
Hans-Juergen Golieberzuch
absolut richtig👍
Totaler Quatsch.
NATO from very beginning in 1948 was a remake of Third Reich. Today’s EU is a Reich 3.1488. The World must put it in a graves of History. And Russia is doing just that
"I sit on the board of BP......the decision we took to exit Russia. Now, some might say 'why were you there in the first place?' Well, we were there in the first place because it was a very good investment to make and it produced excellent returns for shareholders over 25 years." In other words, we're happy to get into bed with Russia as long as it's profitable for us. Let's not look at the bigger picture - the bigger risks - let's just fill our pockets while we can.
WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.”
― General Smedley Butler, War is a Racket
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I think this is a little unfair. The hope and expectation across the west regarding post-soviet Russia was that it would continue to develop towards western democratic norms. It's easy to look back now and see the mistakes.
Excellent point and Im glad you took the time to copy his statement verbatim. In another era he would have been a British enabler to Hitler “because it was good for business”. In the one before that he was financing the ships used for the slave trade or an opium investor. Face it, not only did the EU love the cheap energy but they washed boatloads of Russian money in their countries whether they bought real estate, yachts or luxury brands.
@@JamyOats mistakes? Russians in general do not really care for our Democracy [nor do the Chinese] and how we deliver it to others. It is not like what CNN, SKY and BBC portray. The West lost it's chance with Russia , to treat it well and place it on our side, a long long time ago, at the time of G.Bush jr. to be precise . That was indeed the mistake ! We expect countries with different systems to ours to fall into our lap excited they are finally entering into the 'right fold' . It is not like that at all . I'm surprised at this MI6 gentleman who seems to understand very little about Russia and about the Russians.
And please Sir now that you are on the board of BP could you please initiate a clean-up of oil spills in the Niger delta where BP was involved. And also compensation for polluted land, crops and eco-systems destroyed, animals killed and peoples' lives wrecked. This will go along way in creating a more harmonious and just society.
Sadly there are laws in place that mean if any board member that suggests, or tries to do it, will have to be removed for legal reasons. They will be acting against the interests of the company and therefore the shareholders, and that is not allowed.
It's why we are fucked.
Tut tut now, cuppa tea, two crumpets, stiff upper lip and all that, ducky…
Wasn't this guy deeply implicated in the 2003 Iraq war? He seems to excuse the establishment and the status quo at every turn.
Yeah he's a war criminal together with Putin,Bush and Blair
The deep state is motivated to endlessly interfere to justify their own existence, this was long in the making by the very same set.
Yet he has no problem throwing an off hand dig at Trump for scrapping the shitty Iran deal.
A creature whose extraordinary duplicity is only exceeded by its mendacity. Loathsome.
He says something he doesn't mean to at 30:31 , which he tries to walk back, then does the classic liars stutter, as his brain has lost its train of thought due to his accidental admission. He's as dirty as the rest of them.
I loved the closing statement" Britain security should not be at the cliffs of Dover but 1000 miles away" This is exactly what Putin is saying. He wants Russian security 1000 miles away. Why on earth did you promise Ucrane to enter NATO knowing that Russia would feel threatened.?
Precisely
"Why on earth did you promise Ucrane to enter NATO knowing that Russia would feel threatened." -- Because they asked. We didn't invade them, or threaten them. Every nation that joined Nato since 1990 did so by their own request because they feel threatened by Russia. Russia's invasion of Ukraine proves they were right to do so.
@@gudgeonsales2000 That's a very simplistic view of events. NATO was set up specifically to defend Europe against the Soviet Union attempting to expand. Once the USSR broke up, that threat no longer existed and yet NATO not only didn't disband, it continued a policy of relentless and (in Russia's eyes) aggression expansion.
Why?
Because NATO expansion is a massive cash cow for the military industrial complex worth billions in armaments sales.
Truth is, large arms manufacturing corporations have vigorously lobbied western governments to extend NATO and our incompetent/short sighted/corrupt leaders have far too often given in to those pressure groups.
It's easy to dismiss Russia's defensive concerns but let's face it, there is no way we would be happy if at some point in the future an independent Scotland or say Mexico, wanted to join a China lead military coalition with the intention of setting up military bases on the UK's or US's borders.
So stop the double standards and put yourself in the other guys shoes.
@@albertross18 "Once the USSR broke up, that threat no longer existed" -- Oh boy!
@@gudgeonsales2000 Yes, by all accounts it cant even beat a poor backwards country like Ukraine. So why are we wasting trillions of tax payers money propping up NATO?
I would not trust this man one iota but it does give an insight to one perspective, so thanks.
Fascinating interview. But the career path going from working with the 'militant arm' of the UK's foreign policy (aka MI6), to working for one of the world's largest oil companies is probably of even greater public interest.
MI6 isn’t militant or military. I’d think that the Ukraine war and Putin’s evident paranoia are of utmost, repeat utmost public interest. I’m surprised you need to be told this.
@@paulhollis8879 really? With power to kill? They can kill more than you could imagine……
Very well said!
@@paulhollis8879 yes of course MI6 is not formally militant or military. That’s why I put it into inverted comas. But they certainly use force and they certainly meddle in foreign affairs - hopefully for the common good but the latter would be debatable.
@@paulhollis8879 You sound like the kind of person who when they autopsy a body run over by a bus but found out they had Covid you wrote on the death certificate Covid death...
"Wars are not fought to defeat enemies. Wars are fought to bring about conditions" - Lincoln's Secretary of War.
Hi, I can't find this on the Internet, who and when said? thanks
My friend Igor said it's called "Lincoln's Secretary of special military operation"
the reason people are compelled to war, is because they believe it will bring about a new order, once dust has settled, they can rebuild world in their image.
Never allow anybody to use you as a pawn in their conflict.
edit: in other words, they use war, they justify war, to bring about peace. Peace is not what we want if it has a cost of more war, we want freedom from mimetic desire and conflict.
edit: all this rhetoric of "peace" is used prior to war. We just want "peace" we will do anything for peace, including going to war, to bring about peace.
@@tensevo 'Project for the new American Century' - Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Yemen. Who's waging war?
@@hazelwray4184 yes, but make no mistake the rus and chi have a rhetoric of world order, and peace too. Just do as they say, and there will be peace, that is always the issue. Hand over your stuff to us, and nobody gets hurt.
Getting our news from many sources, and being widely read, is more important today than ever in navigating and counteracting the limited view pieces thrown at us via the internet and TV. At least in America, TV news isn't news any longer as much as it is supposition by arm-chair wanna-be experts in world affairs. The disservice they do to us all - for ratings and a paycheck - is something we need to push back on by educating ourselves better.
Well stated. I've been feeling exactly that since a certain U.S. former, twice impeached president was elected to office. Now with this war, I'm more determined to get good information. Hopefully, more people out there will spread the idea. But do a lot of people even know which are the most reliable sources? That is the question.
@@cjb128 And a good question! I believe that viewing many different, often conflicting, sources allows us to form our own ideas and to connect the dots about what may really be going on. The practice of being open to absorbing information - especially if we don't like it - and thinking it over for a while (instead of looking to be spoon-fed) can lead to more confidence in ourselves and our world. At least that's my take.
You call this news? To begin with, there is no mention that the US(NATO) directly started this whole mess with illegal, criminal aggression, way back in March 2014.
@@jacqueomara8825 "conflicting, sources" ... Sources do not matter if they are prop. Here is a source: "...we brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine."
"How pathetic the jester is, on the king's throne, How stupid the people who allowed it." This all you need to know about the Ukrainian government and current state of the people who live in this country.
Take what this guy says with many grains of salt. He's an insider. MI6 and now BP
What's BP?
@@UFCSTARS the oil company
@@njmccormackgmail Oh yes, of course...British Petroleum, silly me. :/
@@UFCSTARS British Petroleum
Yeah, I think Sean C. McNally should be sent in to negotiate as he's an "outsider." Do you seriously think that he wants the destruction of Ukraine or Russia?
I agree with this guy, we need to leave Putin a way out or it gets catastrophic.
He will only do this again somewhere else. What you need to do is convince the armed forces and internal security that he is not the man to be at the top let them do the rest.
There are three ways out.
Putin gets room temperature one way or another.
Total defeat for Russia.
The West rolls over and Putin sees if he can put the USSR back together before he dies.
There is no face saving way out for Putin.
The Brits and MI6 sound as feckless as the Biden circus.
He won't live forever. We need to be careful. Deescalate this and break him down with soft power and even cooperation and shared interests. One miscalculation and we're all dead if this carries on. It's not like appeasing Hitler. This is russian roulette, quite literally
@@69birdboy Yeah but he's still got 10+ years in power, plenty of time to drop nuclear bombs where he needs to.
@@69birdboy You guys aren't getting it. There is no de-escalating. Sort of. Kind of.
Either Putin crushes the Ukraine, or they kick Russia out. Which can only be done with Western help. Hopefully no boots or direct fighting with Russia. But there is no "let's all get along."
If Putin decides to nuclear, you better hope for Russians all through the command structure to know better, and take him out. a little sabotage wouldn't hurt.
English MI6 knew this was coming with large anticipation
Thanks Alistair. An interesting talk but I think it was recorded some time ago.
Hope you're having a good time. Jenny leaves tomorrow. We've enjoyed her visit.
Safe journey back for you. Love Joan
Was his Lorrdship part of the high nobility which got to see the irrefutable proof of Saddams nukes? The people who were convinced that invading Iraq was the right thing to do to keep humanity safe. As a commoner i am always in awe of these people, for all that they knew and we didn't at that time.
The cited WMDs were not [just] about "nukes." There was a suspected-though-unconfirmed Uranium Enrichment Program layered beneath a confirmed Chemical Weapons Program [of unconfirmed breadth].
@@Ryan_Christopher it was called bullshit. ask dr kelly, oh..... perhaps not.
Iraq had biological weapons of mass destruction, those they had were quickly buried and the manufacturer in Cuba still has stock. Wake up intelligence services.
A certain Dr. David Kelly was remarkably found dead over the latter. RIP.
Never quite trust your "own side" either, or the BBC.
They do what they want, then make up a story to fool us……
i was going to comment on that as well..
I've seen a few people repeat that analysis - that Putin underestimated the Western and Ukrainian response, and has essentially rushed into this war under-prepared. I'm skeptical of that claim. That doesn't seem like the calculating and cautious Putin we've seen over the last few decades. Unless there has been a personnel shake-up around him and some of his more cautious advisers have gone, I assume Russian leadership would have planned for worst-case scenarios, and would have fairly accurate intelligence concerning Ukrainian resolve. I don't think we're yet in a position to know what Moscow's expectations and plans are.
You are right
Correct mate,if covid has taught us anything it's this 'Whatever government and their minions say ? Flip it and you won't be far from the truth '
If you are right there would be a nuke in next coming days....
One thing I'm sure, is that there probably was a degree of miscalculation purely from corruption. Whether it was actually meaningful or not, who knows. It's difficult to believe anything from the media that wants everyone locked up and doped up in seasonal drugs.
I think they miscalculate the local currency cost to Russia. Russians are quite tolerant of hardship. The economy may import today but it can switch to domestic and Chinese suppliers. A "collapse" in the rouble is also impossible not to have been anticipated. As such I'd expect all the oligarchs are in the process of redenominating assets from dollar and gold into rouble and picking up an opportunity to acquire domestic assets that will be required to supply a sanctions restricted market. Putin's thesis will be he can weather this longer than the efette west can and the oligarch wealth will be protected by operating in domestic resource markets.
I would like to hear him again , after months of the war.
I know England poor wee England I have a feeling that Russia is going to squash it just like Monty Pythons big foot squelch lolol
Excellent man, thanks so much
Without a free and unbiased press ( which doesn't exist anymore ) it is impossible to know what the truth is about anything.
"We have now reached a point in human history where United Kingdom is condemning invasion and Taliban is talking about peace mediation"
We have now reached a point where the UK is a complete joke FTFY
lol
“I used to know every damn village in Syria” why do I find that statement so very offensive. It must be because of this country’s shameful destruction of Syria. How flippant a comment given what’s happened and still happening
I did not find it offensive because it seemed to be only about the detail level of the information he had available. Like "I know every damn screw in my car" Exactly like that, not only similar.
I found him a pompous git.
Yeah the West is just as much to blame for the destruction of Syria as Assad is - because they did nothing!
Is the same going to happen with Assad's ally Putin as he invades & brutalisses the Ukraine & then Eastern Europe & then Central Europe and then Western Europe and then the UK?
What about Putin's political & religious advancement in the US or Brazil? What about his advancement in Oceania?
WHEN are people going to stand up & say enough is enough, instead of repeating the same mistakes the World made with Syria, debating themselves into a World War one day at a time?
Look, I recieve warnings from God - I'm not overly religious but I have Faith. In 2012 God said very clearly: "The Syrian War is going to come to the Western Nations"
Assad can't do that by himself, but Putin can...
And then God only knows what kind of combatants he would release upon the Peaceful, Democratic Populations...
Most likely Nazis & Terrorists, just like his Russian Mafioso are already working with among Organised Crime Networks all over the world...
They're laying out the Stakes in the Ground using such Networks to later thread the Fencing & then "Ta Da" just like Magic, you've been invaded!
@@martinsolomon2299he's one of the war criminals who facilitated the Iraq War based on false evidence! Reliable sources! 🤣
The border of what the former chief can say and cannot say is quite interesting to surmise.
Imho as a person coming from a former soviet union country this analysis was the most interesting and precise I have heard regarding current events
Sawers' wry smile when he mentioned Macron thinking himself saviour of Europe is exactly how I felt when he was jetting back and forth to Russia and got totally embarrassed when Putin attacked.
At least Putin spoke with macron. Didn't give bobo a second!!
And I imagine he has even less love for that liar Putin.
childish nonsense
He actually said it was a good thing
it was ridiculous nobody else joined macron
His final thought: "keeping dangers at a distance from us, the essence, really, of our security, you don't want your security to be on the white cliffs of Dover. You want your security to be a thousand miles away so that you can operate freely and our people can go about their lives in freedom and one hopes with growing prosperity and that's what public service is about" (32:55).
This to me is the tragic reason why we face conflicts like this - if you think that 'public service' amounts to holding influence thousands of miles from your own borders (i.e. all over the territory of other nations) how is this going to lead to peace? You can't have every nation of the world expanding their tentacles of power thousands of miles in every direction and also avoid antagonism with countries who don't want you doing this. This interpretation of 'public service' would (and does) lead to wars all over the place.
What would UK feel for their own safety, if Russia were to duplicate the military measures of NATO's security outposts to be set up right at UK borders?
Another interpretation: help free nations thousands of miles away defend themselves from their bullying neighbours so that threats are defeated there, not on your land.
Watch the danger come closer to you and do nothing, apart from embrace it when it finally calls your name and knocks on your door !
@@algung2522 The UK and Russia are not morally equivalent. The UK has liberty defended by a free-speech embracing democracy. Russia has no free speech and thus no meaningful democracy - and certainly no liberty. The Russian dictatorship has no legitimacy. NATO countries uphold individual rights, however imperfectly, and thus have legitimacy.
@@algung2522 Russia has been for many years constantly flying bombers towards the UK, then turning around right on the edge of our airspace.
RLL and Secular Talk come together! Nice one!
Always good to hear from the people on the ground, not just officials with investments
Lol!
exactly THIS man is an official with investmens. And he is not hiding but saying it at the beginning!
"The one thing about clandestine operations is they always become known at some point." Brilliant and useful for all relationships, I should think.
Like the CIA killing of John Lennon by 2 gunmen. (Jose Perdomo, security guard).
in all these analysis they always leave out silly little things like kolomoyskyi a Ukrainian oligarch who is in switzerland whilst he has a lot of control of Ukrainian media and funds the bandera azov types who after the 'revolution' in Ukraine started to get integrated into the higher levels of the government and across the board within the armed forces, and you can be 100% sure he damn well knows this seeing as he was former mi6 chief
@@jonfoster5828 I dont see the point in bringing that up since they ousted him from the govt after just a year for those exact reasons. You can easily look up how incredibly marginalized all of the far-right organizations have become since the 2019 election.
@@Antowam3 just because they didn't elect the billionaire oligarch into office didn't stop him having control of a lot of the Ukraine media or a lot of the influence over the zelensky government and as to how marginalized the bandera azov type groups he also funds is very much up for debate and the amount of politicians, journalists, mayors etc that have gone/still are going missing, being left for dead with bullet holes and left out in the open for all to see suggests these types of people are still around, it is too easy to dismiss it all as just russian propaganda but the truth will out in the end, as it has done in so many other occasions when various extremist groups have been used by the US/UK governments to fight in the dirty wars
@@Antowam3 k
He sounds very much like Blair or Blair sounds very much like him. The problem is that Blair lost all credibility in the Iraq War.
He & Blair were part of the global agenda to corner Putin in the first place....now he's giving us the back story as if it were an analysis ?
@@gc2696 The gall, I tell you.
yip. Two very confused people, supporting the empire of lies.
@@jono2233 When a regime that can't even admit to its' own people that they are at war calls you an "empire of lies", does that count as a compliment?
They did and do things for their own interests not for people in this country…… nor for humanity, freedom, justice in this world, all these are for their disguise……period!
It's very normal to hear from both the antagonists and protagonists so each informed viewer can discern facts from opinions and then draw their own conclusions. Now we linguists are reported to be language detectives. As such wasn't this video title to read: 'From M1616 Chief on the Ukraine Russia Conflict' . In other words, grammar proscribes the capitalisation of form or closed words comprising fewer than five letters. Yet this preposition 'on' is one of the three closed words aka bond morphemes.
Oxford is the shining star of academic and the focal point of academic reference the world over. May OU retain her prestigious reputation in whatever she writes in future!
Here we are almost 90 days after this post and Kyiv, kharkiv are still in Ukrainian hands, hope it stays that way.
Yes, he got that part wrong, saying Kiev will fall. Russia failed at Kiev.
Everything he said can be read in big newspapers. I was hoping he could give additional insights.
Agreed. His tedious preoccupation with sanctions felt disingenuous, as though he was avoiding the difficult questions in favour of letting the wealthy corporate elite decide the matter, as market forces would inevitably dictate.
He struck me as a professional propagandist also
Its the same kind of FAKE NEWS and propaganda to cover up for fomenting a coup of an elected government.
Who is Victoria Nuland?
Maybe that's where He gets his information from, we know who owns them
@@georgebenson6330
Who owns them and most politicians ? Those who can print all needed to corrupt/buy the system since 1913. Their centrally controlled economic system is imploding so they need an other war. We really think people like Biden or Johnson have any power ?
He is totally correct don't force the "Tiger to Jump Over the wall" or in this case "The Bear to crash through the wall"...like he says it best interest for the West to leave a route for Russia to dial down the tone.
I am afraid, the Russians themselves will not find a way out. The others, as always, have to think for them, show & tell a solution and leave them, at the end, with the illusion, that they have invented it. - These people are my favourite european neighbours - what a pleasure to have them around.
How do you catch a rat?
Bring a feral cat. The question is
Who will be the feral cat.
This guy is part of the problem. Best Advice to Solve the Russia-Ukraine Crisis by John J. Mearsheimer
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In terms of a way out...a bullet to the mellon by few conspirators in his inner circle would prob be the least costly and best for humanity overall would it not?
@@viccolombia sylvester stallone, jason statham, etc.....
That was very interesting. Thanks.
I train MI6 agents in mortal hand-to-face combat. The most underrated technique is to scream loudly and run fast away from danger. But if you’re trapped and pleading doesn’t work, try playing dead and then run away fast to safety and call for backup
Thankfully he let us know that he knows nothing about financial systems and how actually this is going to play out against central banks
At last a competent interviewer (unlike BBC) who doesn't think it's all about her!
Full marks girl! You let the 'guest' be the focus of attention.
BBC bashing is so lame
when was this guy interviewed on bbc?
Glad to see that I was not alone in noticing how unobtrusive and unbiased she was in moderating this session. Full marks to her, indeed!
@@DavidSawe very true, although most interviews on bbc/itv etc don't have a 30 minute time slot which is probably a good reason why their interviews are so shit
@Jack Archer The BBC were the first to break the fake Iraq dossier story. I mean it depends on who you're comparing them to. Who would you point to that you like?
If (as he says) that Russia will win the war - then what is the point in "supporting the Ukrainian government" with sanctions, but not with military action? The West should either get involved or not at all
The objective from the very start was to provoke Russia into entering Ukraine, regardless of the cost to the Ukranians in terms of property and human life destroyed, with the objective of inflicting as much damage as possible on Russia. And also to provide an excuse for sanctions which have the same objective.
There are no other objectives than those. The vain hope is that they will inflict enough damage to precipitate regime change in Russia. This is intended to mainly neutralise Russia's nukes in preparation for the next step, an attempt at sanctioning and blockading China to destroy their economy.
The excuse for that one will likely be provoking China to attack Taiwan by allowing China to think Taiwan will place US nuclear missiles there.
Brilliant! Thankyou.
Oxford Union you need to get Prof John Mearscheimer for an intelligent and balanced counterview.
For those interested watch his UA-cam talks, very educational.
"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master." - Commisioner Pravin Lal, Alpha Centauri (game from Firaxis)
Yes. So what makes USA, UK and Canada better than Putin.
UK parliament just passed laws to make protesting illegal.
Canada called protesters terrorists.
USA kept American citizens in prison for "insurrection" yet not a single charge of "insurrection" and not a single weapon found..
I can't think of a single thing that makes Putin any worse than every other "leader" on the planet at this moment.
Same in Slovakia ... Sponsorship from west really manifest it self ... attacking emotions of people in here and also the law now says that information will be "filttered" ... so either you are going to have "right" opinion or shut up ....
Ffin great quote dude!
Doesn't everyone though?
How could so many people smarter than me get this whole situation wrong?
The answer is that they are not 'smarter', they just think they are and their interests align with pursuing a war with Russia - something that is clearly not in the interests of ordinary Britons, Americans, or even Ukrainians for that matter.
He is smart but also seems forget sometimes that times change. Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work now.
British Prime Minister Johnson chooses protecting the Loot of his Oligarch buddies over Ukrainian Refugees. BORIS JOHNSON ( Putin's enabler ) IS IN "TOTAL PANIC" BECAUSE THE WORLD CAN SEE HE IS THE CARETAKER FOR PUTIN'S ASSETS,AS OPPOSED TO TURNING THESE ASSETS INTO EUROS AND GETTING THESE EUROS INTO POSSESSION OF REFUGEES,ONLY ONE REASON WHY UK PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HOLDS THIS POSITION." IS HIS DEBT TO THE OLIGARCHS" While UK .Prime Minister Boris Johnson acts as caretaker for the loot of Putin's Oligarch lackeys. Predators and human traffickers prey on vulnerable Refugee families.
Ukrainian Refugees must not be marginalised or forgotten ,these families are in a desperate situation and need our help urgently. Time wasting stalling tactics from "Boris the Liar" can not be afforded, if we allow this, the vulnerable victims of Putin will pay the price. Prime Minister Johnson is complicit in the plight of Ukrainian Refugees, Everyone must take a closer look at what's going on. Boris Johnson must be monitored in order to ensure Putin does not get seized assets returned by the back door
Putin's assets that are held by front men / Oligarchs in different parts of the UK must be seized and made available to Refugees in Euros to rebuild their lives, Then a fund to rebuild infrastructure in Ukraine destroyed by Putin.
British Conservative establishment connections to Putin's money and assets in LONDONGRAD requires urgent transparent investigation.
We must take a closer look at this present British Government,
Boris Johnson delays and vacillates when the action needed is clear and obvious TURN OLIGARCHS ASSETS INTO EUROS, AND THEN INTO THE POSSESION OF UKRAINIAN REFUGEES. This action of course creates a monumental Dilemma for Boris Johnson due to the massive amount of Largesse the Conservatives are beholden to the Oligarchs for. The reality is Putin is still pulling this present British gvmnt strings. UNDER PRESENT CONDITIONS THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE WORLD TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
We need to stop pretending that we do not know Putin's footmen the 'OLIGARCHS" and UK Tories led by Johnson are knee deep in kickbacks sleaze and corruption together. Putin's "Laundered Londongrad Loot "will never be put in the hands of Ukrainian displaced Mothers as Euros. Oligarchs and Refugees are connected the solution to one is the other. The problem is Boris will stop this solution at all costs.
What a nice bunch of Boys run the UK "Pass the Caviar Jacob". BORIS JOHNSON CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH THE CRITICAL ACTION NEEDED FOR THE REFUGEES" The Ukrainian refugees need help NOW In view of Boris Johnson track record in relation to the truth or following through on a statement or promise its my view he has no intention whatsoever of seriously stripping the Oligarchs of their Criminal wealth. Hypocrisy of words and no action is of no value Mister Johnson. What is needed is a declaration and action to grab the Oligarchs / Putin's assets in London, plus a clear statement of intent what these funds will be used for.
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Imagine what this guy could really share if we were able.
I'm not trying to draw a comparison between the two states, but you have to admit "former senior foreign intelligence boss, now board member on leading oil company" is the exact CV of an awful lot of dodgy Russians.
His experience is exactly why his analysis on Putin is so invaluable and insightful. It takes like to understand like. Especially him noting that Putin is no longer the man he once was.
No great surprise there. Oil is nearly the most important thing in the world.
@@VVayVVard the old Putin was a bad actor - he is long gone. The “new” Putin is the very opposite - he is working to tear down the old (corrupt) world. eg the bioweapon labs in Ukraine, hidden within a children’s hospital … 🤔
Start using your discernment peeps.
Brave man. He has my vote.
@@snowyowl6892 Stop spreading lies!
@@snowyowl6892 What evidence is there indicating that Ukraine has bioweapons labs?
As a biochemist myself, I'd note that bioweapons are very cheap to research (compared to nuclear weapons) and can be created in a garage using relatively cheap equipment, so even if Ukraine had them, eliminating a couple of labs wouldn't do Putin any good. It's far more effective, as a long term solution, to design and implement basic countermeasures, such as filtration (e.g. HEPA + directed air flows) and decontamination (e.g. 222 nm far-UVC) systems.
In fact, stationing troops in a country known to conduct bioweapons research is generally a bad move, since that would give the enemy an opportunity to infect those soldiers with said bioweapons, which could then spread to the rest of the country as those soldiers returned home after the mission. So, if such hypothetical bioweapon labs did in fact exist in Ukraine, very soon, we will likely hear news of dangerous diseases spreading among Russian soldiers and citizens. On the other hand, if nothing of the sort happens, we can conclude with high certainty that Ukraine never had any functional bioweapon programs in the first place.
Agreeing with his presentation or not, there is a measure of class here I wish our leaders had.
Yes this is true, but more money and an easier life are available in his type of role than in standing out for your nations best interest in politics. Normies see the bad actions of politicians much more than those of career civil and government agents and employees who usually wreak much more damage in their protected roles.
even though he is being totally misleading?
He is slanting everything he says to come into focus by tabloid readers.
No one else would be fooled by any of this. DO NOT LET AN OXFORD/CAMBRIDGE/EATON ACCENT OR MANNER EVER FOOL YOU INTO MAKING MORAL APPROVALS ON THESE GUYS.
It is impossible to agree with his statement as he omits a few basics: To begin with, neither Georgia in 2004 nor Ukraine in 2014 were results of the actions of grassroots movements but coups at the hands of the West. In particular, any regime ruling after the revolution in these countries was a regime change caused by the US. If you don't believe it, check out videos of a certain Joe Biden bragging about Ukrainian officials being fired because they would investigate corruption in Ukrainian politics !
@@sodarkherhair78 he did not want to mention the coup that happen he is not a honest man
British Prime Minister Johnson chooses protecting the Loot of his Oligarch buddies over Ukrainian Refugees. BORIS JOHNSON ( Putin's enabler ) IS IN "TOTAL PANIC" BECAUSE THE WORLD CAN SEE HE IS THE CARETAKER FOR PUTIN'S ASSETS,AS OPPOSED TO TURNING THESE ASSETS INTO EUROS AND GETTING THESE EUROS INTO POSSESSION OF REFUGEES,ONLY ONE REASON WHY UK PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HOLDS THIS POSITION." IS HIS DEBT TO THE OLIGARCHS" While UK .Prime Minister Boris Johnson acts as caretaker for the loot of Putin's Oligarch lackeys. Predators and human traffickers prey on vulnerable Refugee families.
Ukrainian Refugees must not be marginalised or forgotten ,these families are in a desperate situation and need our help urgently. Time wasting stalling tactics from "Boris the Liar" can not be afforded, if we allow this, the vulnerable victims of Putin will pay the price. Prime Minister Johnson is complicit in the plight of Ukrainian Refugees, Everyone must take a closer look at what's going on. Boris Johnson must be monitored in order to ensure Putin does not get seized assets returned by the back door
Putin's assets that are held by front men / Oligarchs in different parts of the UK must be seized and made available to Refugees in Euros to rebuild their lives, Then a fund to rebuild infrastructure in Ukraine destroyed by Putin.
British Conservative establishment connections to Putin's money and assets in LONDONGRAD requires urgent transparent investigation.
We must take a closer look at this present British Government,
Boris Johnson delays and vacillates when the action needed is clear and obvious TURN OLIGARCHS ASSETS INTO EUROS, AND THEN INTO THE POSSESION OF UKRAINIAN REFUGEES. This action of course creates a monumental Dilemma for Boris Johnson due to the massive amount of Largesse the Conservatives are beholden to the Oligarchs for. The reality is Putin is still pulling this present British gvmnt strings. UNDER PRESENT CONDITIONS THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE WORLD TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
We need to stop pretending that we do not know Putin's footmen the 'OLIGARCHS" and UK Tories led by Johnson are knee deep in kickbacks sleaze and corruption together. Putin's "Laundered Londongrad Loot "will never be put in the hands of Ukrainian displaced Mothers as Euros. Oligarchs and Refugees are connected the solution to one is the other. The problem is Boris will stop this solution at all costs.
What a nice bunch of Boys run the UK "Pass the Caviar Jacob". BORIS JOHNSON CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH THE CRITICAL ACTION NEEDED FOR THE REFUGEES" The Ukrainian refugees need help NOW In view of Boris Johnson track record in relation to the truth or following through on a statement or promise its my view he has no intention whatsoever of seriously stripping the Oligarchs of their Criminal wealth. Hypocrisy of words and no action is of no value Mister Johnson. What is needed is a declaration and action to grab the Oligarchs / Putin's assets in London, plus a clear statement of intent what these funds will be used for.
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Can you get a speaker to update this topic?
I'm a Brit. And I am old. And I grew up around people like Sir Robert John Sawers. And I am very aware of his expertise and his deep knowledge and his commitment and tireless service to his country. And I can tell you, categorically, that you cannot trust one word that issues from his mouth.
why?
@@knowclub5890 Because he is an ex MI6 operative. Do some research from entities that are not controlled by the elites.
Did you mention the Biden crime family bribery kickbacks from USA tax dollars? Hunter and Burisma? Did you mention the CIA overthrowing the Ukraine government and installing the current puppet in 2014? Ukraine is a cesspool of NWO money laundering and corruption. The west has repeatedly broken their promises to Russia about NATO expansion. Russia was provoked many times. The NWO entities like MI6, CIA are to blame.
And the cornered rat is the one you see before you on the stage........
Keep wearing the tin foil.
It’s like listening to Neville Chamberlain on his return from Munich
The Russians use a lot of Cold War designed equipment, but so do we. The F-15, F-16, and F-18s were designed in the 60s and 70s. The M-1 tank is a 1970s design. The B-52 are ancient and the Bradley is no spring chicken. We are partial to our antiques as well. Basically, new weapons systems are not affordable in large numbers, which is why the old stuff remains.
"One of the things I do in my afterlife from public service is I sit on the board of BP" - says it all really. Spoken like a true Blairite. He goes on to talk about BP's lucrative business investments, so much so that when he talks about what "we" have to do, one must legitimately wonder who exacly he is refererring to as "we", which seems to me the essential problem in the ongoing conflict between the West/US and Russia. In whose interests were the sustained provocations that led to this military crisis actually made?
CERTAINLY NOT FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE.
He is absolutely drooling at the rising oil process for the Consumer, the little guy. Anything out of his mouth is crap.
@@hikelfin End of analysis? What analysis? :-)
@twangbarfly Indeed. I gave up after about 10 minutes of nothing I didn't already know or figured out on my own.
@@hikelfin Self righteous opinions are what brought us to the brink of WWIII. You are an enemy to World Peace. Here get informed unless you are a supremacist with or without jacket.
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This guy is part of the world leadership that created all of the current problems.
You are spot on!
Correct.
Exactly :- Chinese invasion of Tibet in the 50s totally overlooked 🤷🏽♂️
He concludes by saying that the essence of our security is not having threats on the cliffs of dover but keeping them a thousand miles away...why does that have a familiar ring?
Reading through the comments section here was considerably more informative than listening to this slick propagandist's spiel.
True.
100 % Agree
You nailed it. Brought in to Propagandise. FT, Washington Post....... says it all!
I'd love to see this updated a week later, a lot has changed.
I quite liked this MI6 guy, but he tells only the half of the story. I bed he knows what really happened at the "Maidan" the so called revolution, what was in reality only a coup, of a american "organisation".
@32:58 he say's; " ....at keeping dangers away from us. ,........you want your security 1000 miles away...."
Is this not exactly what Putin was asking for? The NATO is already at his borders. So, he is the "cornered rat" already, for him is Ukraine the only way to get out of this trapp that the NATO has build around him.
He might be a Diktator but he surely doesn't like to slaughter his "Brother country". (with a lot of common history. ) What I liked here the most was his (Sir John Sawer's) advice to "let the cornered rat" somehow out of this, without forcing him to attack even more aggressively. I hope the US controlled NATO get it too. Otherwise it might be a very bad outcome.
@@Kiaorafranz wow I enjoyed your comment. What happened in 2014 was another colour revolution, planned to removed an elected government. It is said there were British snipers shooting civilians on the square.
@@Ginobili17 thanks, "The Maidan Rev. 2014 "
I watched it two years ago and again today. I do wonder how the updated version would be like.
Professor Chomsky said the best path to peace is for Ukraine to declare neutrality towards NATO.
Correct. Agree with your sentiment and comment
I don't need Chomsky to tell me the obvious.
Profesor Chomsky is 100% correct.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 A broken clock is 100% right once a day.
Yes that would be a great solution!!
such a slick and reasonable sounding narrative. ive hear the same story every where. I could see three reasons not to belive a thing this man says before we got done with his credentials. mi6, bp, and tony blair.
On You
We should remember that Stalin was absolutely committed to the modernization of the state, and was quite unconcerned by the cost in lives...
We should remember the west has flattened countries in recent times, the body count of this vs what we have done is simply not comparable, and the double standards are of course blatant, take a look in the mirror if you want to know who to compare to monsters of history.
@@churblesfurbles I do not for one minute excuse the west, the 'war on terror'.
@@thesorrow88 I'm sure the entire global south agrees with his take tho. If you are from North America or Europe, let the victims decide the weight of your crimes.
@@thesorrow88 not delusional. the point he made cannot be countered
@@kashu7691 Its accurate but irrelevant. my bad behavior does not excuse your bad behavior. It doesn't even contextualize it unless it's against me. "Your father spanked you so I smacked your mom."??!?? - that's not an argument, it's word salad indicating a stroke.
So he's on the board of BP. The whole US goal was to stop Nordstream 2 or at least minimize its production and flow. The US calculated that Putin would take Donbass regions and eastern Ukraine and that would provide enough finger wagging ammunition to close down the pipeline. Then it all blew up.
Globalist goal was to bait that maniac Putin into starting the war.
They have succeeded frightfully well.
@@gc2696 I totally agree. The Minsk agreements were undermined by the US and Ukraine government who were making cash out of the Donbass conflict. Russia is not innocent but this could have been handled diplomatically.
@@gc2696 0
Ever notice how all US/UK conflicts are with "maniacs" or "madmen"?
Ukraine cuts off Crimea source of fresh drinking water
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@@63Hash Putin says that he is fighting the Nazis...
Insightful!
The focus of many people in the unlikely event of a nuclear war is the initial blast, which could cause mass casualties and unimaginable devastation. When the U.S. detonated nuclear weapons over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 77 years ago, it leveled the cities and killed more than 100,000 to 200,000 people from the blasts or radiation sickness.
But according to scientists, the horrors of a nuclear war could affect the whole planet.
Clearly, one or two nuclear impacts would not have global effects but the impact of 100 weapons the size of the one that fell on Hiroshima would lower temperatures around the world to below those of the little ice age that occurred from roughly 1,300 to 1,850. That would result in crop failures and famine on a large scale. Here are the large scale impacts
1. Five megatons of soot and ash would fill the sky, bringing about a nuclear winter.
2. After one year, the average temperature of Earth would fall by about 2 degrees. After five years, the earth would be three degrees cooler than before. Twenty years down the road, it would warm up to one degree below where it was before the nuclear event.
3. That might sound beneficial, given all the talk about global warming today, but lower temperatures means less rain. Five years after the detonation, rainfall would be at 91% of current levels. After 26 years, we would still see 4.5% less rain than we did before the war. And the reduced rainfall would bring about global drought conditions.
4. Depending on the region, growing seasons for crops would be 10 to 40 days shorter, resulting in widespread famine.
5. The ozone layer would diminish due to the radiation, ultimately becoming as much as 25% thinner for the first five years after the event. After 10 years, there would be some recovery, but it would still be 8% thinner. This would result in a rise in skin cancer and sunburns. And the increased ultraviolet rays would put plant and animal life that survived the initial blast at risk.
It wouldn't necessarily take 100 missiles for those theories to be tested, either. The United States' modern B83 bombs are 80 times more powerful than the weapon it hit Hiroshima. Russia has tested weapons that are even more powerful.
Scientists warn that ripple effects of a nuclear war could be devastating for everyone on Earth. The combined cooling and enhanced UV would put significant pressures on global food supplies and could trigger a global nuclear famine.
Astonishingly, He knows lesser than the public!
Typically, much of what is in the public realm is at best only partially true.
Astonishingly, you have an English sounding name but can't put a simple sentence together...
@@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen astonishingly you don’t have a name and you only seek to pick a fight
@@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen did they call you 'westy'or 'westie' as a kid?
@@brothercaleb strangely I do have a name and the comment makes no sense.
For anyone keen on hearing another view on this situation and how we've gotten here you should probably look up John Mearsheimer's 'Why is Ukraine the West's Fault?'. Obviously Putin still has to bear the majority of the blame for this war but terrible and miscalculated foreign policy by the 'West' has also brought us here and it's terribly unfortunate that the Ukrainian people at the end of the day will suffer the consequences of poor judgement across the board.
Yeah this was clear in 2014.victoria nuland was reckless
Did the west "create" Hitler? These questions are beside the point. No one was standing next to Putin pointing a gun at his head telling him to invade Ukraine. This is Putin's war, 100 per cent. The blood is exclusively on his hands. Let us stop confusing what is a simple issue:national sovereignty. You respect it, or you don't. Putin doesn't. The only question is how to stop him.
Yes the west has a great deal of responsibility for the situation between Russia and Europe, but it’s Putin who made the decision to invade. The responsibility is all his.
Thank you
@@rogerlivingstone3528 This war is for sure on Putin and I don't make my comments to diminish any blame ascribed to his name, BUT are there actions and foreign policies re: Ukraine that SHOULD have been pursued to improve the livelihood of it's citizens, if that was the real aim, without putting them in the cross-hairs of Putin's rage? Yes. I'm not claiming to be an authority on this subject matter, much like the rest of the world I'm just trying to unpack what has happened and why we keep finding ourselves in these situations, and found Prof. Mearsheimer's talk enlightening especially as it was way back in 2015, check it out if you wanna but that's just my 2 cents on the matter.
go to 32:55 in the video
Zelensky is an actor playing a hero and a puppy of the transatlantic forces.
How can a man once(maybe still is) employed by mI6 and now an oil company give a balanced fair perpespective of the situation without it being biased towards the west.
So as a neutralist, you have no values? Youre not "biased" toward rational individualism? Nihilists have no bias.
Why should he be balanced? He is asked for his view. There are no rules of reply. Intelligent viewers can make up their own minds about his views.
@@jamesarc8192 > make up their own minds
Radical, dude!
Strange that for the ex head of MI6 recent events started in 2014... he missed to explain how those events in 2014 precipitated, and he is avoiding 2008, Nato declaration regarding Ukraine and Georgia becoming nato members
Exactly , part of the problem ..,?
@@jolantagruszka7428 so it was understood as NATO encircling Russia.
strange that joining NATO became a goal AFTER Russia invaded eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
Exactly,
+ very interesting view:
Robert C. Castel on the current Ukraine / Russia affairs - will there be a WW3?
ua-cam.com/video/ajF91RG-8Tk/v-deo.html
Well, he is quite good. He also does not mention the mutual security concessions and how that negotiations went end of last year. So, one cannot easily confront him for misinterpreting, only for leaving important aspects out. If one does not know much about it however, this will not be recognized at all.
This guy is so smooth in his mis-direction.
Top level.
Am bitterly shocked to find out that my remark begging you OU to rectify the misspelling on your title is now missing. In its place only my two addenda are now appearing as my contributions to the debate. Back then, I praise the guest speaker for his briefing and said that it was up to each viewer to draw their own conclusion after listening to both sides of the same coin.
Indeed, what I objected to was that your full title should have read: Former M16 Chief on the Ukraine & Russia Conflict, not Former M16 Chief On the Ukraine & Russia Conflict.
Patiently awaiting to be proven wrong, for Oxford is rightfully renowned for being.the centre of academic excellence. @ngand'osambalundula
Can see why BP hired the man.
Natural Gas Reserve all by himself.
Ha-ha.👍
lol
The BP job was why he did what he did while serving in MI6. The smugness is typical of a Blairite War Criminal.
@@gc2696 yes, also -burp- true.
"You want your security to be a thousand miles away." Great line! That is what Putin has been saying all along about the prospect of the Ukraine becoming a NATO member in his backyard.
My thought exactly.
And when he takes over Ukraine and finds a NATO member borders Ukraine? And have you looked at a map of NATO countries in the Baltic recently? Will Putin go further and decide he needs an even bigger buffer zone and try to take back the parts of Europe that the Soviet Union gained control of at the end of WW2?
@@quintrankid8045 Probably not. He doesn't seem mad enough to attack NATO countries, despite the impression he's currently trying to give. Even Stalin wasn't that crazy.
Yeah it was a very telling remark.
@@quintrankid8045 I understand he didn't want Ukraine to join NATO because the natural resources that are in Ukraine would subsequently be controlled by NATO countries (i.e. the USA). I don't think he would go further and try to take over other neighbouring NATO countries. But I certainly don't condone what he is doing to the innocent people of Ukraine. But this has been brewing for a while.
Fantastic.
Classy guy who knows 100 * more than he'll admit. First Q to validate his ethics & committment to the UK Nation (& not to a few Aerospace Defence execs) : did he know about the lack of WMD in Irak? I doubt it. He is, like Kroes & Macron to Uber, a sell out, > 50% chances.
Notice the last remarks: GB doesn't want security on the cliffs of Dover. Same thing for Russia - it doesn't want security in Donetsk, right at its border. Russia wants it just like any other country. You would do the same, I reckon.
No, Putin wants to invade the former Soviet satellite countries, to restore his vision of a great Soviet superpower that controls and represses the countries it has invaded.
As board member of BP, his public analysis is colored by this fact. SO, he does not really reveal the background strategy of Western govt (influenced by the oil/gas sector)...to them Ukraine is only a pawn
Exactly. Look up Project Aerodynamic 'CIA: Undermining and Nazifying Ukraine Since 1953'.
Totally agree
To both sides but it is still Ukraines choice.
He will say anything for the right price
Great!!!
Putin, in his 2008 Munich Security Conference speech, warned of the destabilising effect of Western regime change operations, occupations and unilateral sanctions.
It's like when a child is subjected to bullying for a long time, and decides to put the bully in his place.
@@kayem3824 except that child was always bullying others and are friends with one of the biggest bullies in the world namely China.. the ukrainians didn't just rise up to overthrow the Russian Puppet government because they were influenced by American Leaders like Hillary. they did it because they had very unequal business relationships with the Russians for 100's of years beforehand and the EU and by extension the US had been much better partners in everything not by coercion but by the fact that Russia simply took more and more and exploited the Ukranians like they have always done and well there is almost a thousand years of history there that they didn't want repeated. this narrative of EU and US forcing Russia's hand is not taking any action of Russia into account when they had an even bigger role to play..
you can pretty much blame the west for Libya, Iraq and the rise of ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaeeda. but not Ukraine wanting to move away from Russia, as Russia has always undermined Ukraine which has been a bigger factor and pushed them further and further towards Europe, hell even a huge amount of those ukrainians that speak Russian as their first language or only language have supported this move because they themselves have been subject to those unequal treaties and business relationships and on the other hand seen the difference with the non exploitative counterparts of those relationships with western nations and even China.
we can blame the US and the big powers of Europe (France and Britain) for a lot of instability in the world and they should be criticized for that. but Ukraine is just a lot more complicated then that and is for once not their fault.
@@NiklasMJ they did force Ukraine to sign non-binding Budapest Memorandum in 1994 to give up their nukes. I think, this was a sucker punch. In 1990 Bush Sr. came to Kyiv and gave a speech in which he warned Ukrainians not to leave the USSR, because he was worried precisely of that, of nukes spreading over the former USSR country. What happened is a history. But what a chance now that no matter what the West STILL don't want Russia to break apart again for the same reason. Sadly, many Western politicians have a poor understanding of Ukrainian-Russian history and trying to appease putin.
And of course the Soviets knew ,they used those tactics themselves repeatedly.
@@olenazemba6977 You're right. Those weren't Ukrainian nukes, because the command center wasn't in Ukraine, nor was the technology native, but Soviet wide, same as the Antonov monster cargo aircraft. Similarly, the space launching site was and is still in Kazakhstan, which doesn't mean that it's local technology.
So many conflicts. So many questions. But mainly, what is the Oxford Union now?
Great professional and a public servant! Must be one of the most informed people on the planet!
I quite liked this MI6 guy, but he tells only the half of the story. I bed he knows what really happened at the "Maidan" the so called revolution, what was in reality only a coup, of a american "organisation".
@32:58 he say's; " ....at keeping dangers away from us. ,........you want your security 1000 miles away...."
Is this not exactly what Putin was asking for? The NATO is already at his borders. So, he is the "cornered rat" already, for him is Ukraine the only way to get out of this trapp that the NATO has build around him.
He might be a Diktator but he surely doesn't like to slaughter his "Brother country". (with a lot of common history. ) What I liked here the most was his (Sir John Sawer's) advice to "let the cornered rat" somehow out of this, without forcing him to attack even more aggressively. I hope the US controlled NATO get it too. Otherwise it might be a very bad outcome.
It's like having a trained crisis negotiator carefully communicating with the guy holding hostages to come out with his hands up. It can be touch and go, not always ending well....
@@poppypottschannel You cant be serious, you must be kidding maliciously. Bad seed, thats you poppy
Europe led and dictated by the US avoided provoking Zelensky to stop implementing the Minsk agreement that fully resolved the whole issue.
If the West stop provoking Ukraine and he avoid ambition to NATO membership and the West stop open door policy can be easily solved as was promised following the collapse of the Soviet union?
@@poppypottschannel got it right.
One of the things I learned while working at diplomatic representations of the European Commission in various EU member-states was the people working behind the scenes, whether they're high level diplomats or civil servants, are generally considerably more skilled, more competent, possess vastly more knowledge, and are generally much better at planning for the medium to long term than most politicians. They also tend to be more self-aware (including being aware of their own limitations - Dunning-Kruger Effect, I guess?), and many of them are highly dedicated to their work. I found that realization to be quite comforting, and this talk reminded me of that. Very good indeed.
Makes perfect sense
Bullshit. Most people only have their own interests and salaries at heart and do not try to understand their adversaries standpoints or see the bigger picture. Therefore they will keep causing conflicts around the world, but in good intentions for themselves and the people who see things from the same point of view.
That's why I still can't make sense of the 2014 coup. They must have known that it would inevitably lead to this, so I really can't grasp what the agenda was. Forcing Putins hand so that they could instigate his removal by the Russian people themselves? Just my laymans assessment of the situation of course, but if thats actually the case, then it's way beyond playing with fire for my comfort.
@@johanlindberg2712 Did you actually READ the comment you are calling "bullshit"?
Clearly not, as you missed the whole point, which is that the bureaucratic framework embedded in most democracies works very hard to PREVENT their nation from initiating events of the kind we're seeing today.
That's demonstrably NOT about salaries & self interest - we leave that kind of nonsense to bureaucracies who function in nations where facts are less important than keeping the dictator happy (or at least from "disappearing" the dissenters).
The richest person in my country is a businessman who never attend university but he has very good workers around him. A leader’s job is to lead & leadership competency generally measured by the achievements of that particular nation during his/her tenure.
This is how you learn about the details of the present conflict in Ukraine. Thank you moderator for asking the key questions and not interrupting the speaker with needless questions. I have learned a great deal .
Can you trust him though?! Someone who was advising Blair!
Fantastically informative. Thank you to Sir Robert John Sawers for your past official service to all of humanity. Thanks also for generously continuing to share valuable insight honed through many years of experience. Thanks to the Oxford Union for arranging and sharing.
Thank you Oxford Union and Sawers for rubber-stamping the official 'Western narrative' and ignoring all of the deep causes of the current war.
This guy sounds quite intelligent and quick to give many limited references to half measures in the past. He's a high quality yarn spinner to entertain up and coming students whose families are certainly British Petroleum shareholders. Please note how instead of being truthful about how ineffective "sanctions" are in stopping aggression, he so wisely emphasized that once a belligerent leader is caught in a corner militarily, the sanctions can be useful while the aggressor begins negotiations for his/her own end-game. Ex-UK government employee, ex(?)-MI6, currently on BP's board of directors---smooth as a Cobra in the night.
notice how he stuttered after his comment about trump!
hes literally a state actor.
This was the first comment I saw explaining my own feeling.. Just like with covid, we're going to be inundated with these types of puppets feeding a narrative..
Au contraire, the greatest skill he showed on that stage, was diplomacy. It's easy to open up your mouth and whip a storm....... not quite so to instill an air of de-escalation while discussing the very things that an 'aggressor' would consider inflammatory. Rhetoric matters.
he also really did avoid saying that the EU and Nato expansion IS quite certainly a strategic threats to russia
The closing statement Britain wants its security to be a 1000 mile away but Russia cannot expect the same when it says NATO cant be on its doorsteps.
If Putin is successful he will have accomplished exactly that. Putin of course had NATO on his doorstep before so it is all just bellicose rhetoric.
Maybe US Nato and UK as a cohort should have thought about that before pushing Nato in Russia's front yard followed with nukes 3 minutes away form Moscow. Security for us but not for others. Such an impolite view.
@@josmit2945 Maybe Russia should have respected Ukraine's security and it wouldn't need to join NATO.
@@farzana6676 Before the 2014 neo-con coup, there was no problem with Russia.
@@kayem3824 Try 2008 Georgia invasion
Interesting that he would mention that the UK don't want the security to be at the white cliffs of Dover but a thousand miles away. My question then is why would anyone think that Russia would see things differently regarding their security?
Then the same question applies to Finland and Sweden why should they have an aggressive neighbouron their doorstep. Chechnya didn't want to join NATO Neither did Georgia or South Ossetia but they were still attacked by Russia this was never about NATO Ukraine wanted to join the EU thats why Putin had Viktor Yushenko poisoned back in 2004
@@affectionatepunch In 2008 NATO decided that Georgia and Ukraine should become part of NATO. So you mean that Russia had someone poisoned in 2004 for something that happened in 2013?
John Mearsheimer talked about the reasons behind the current situation already in 2015. It's quite educational.
ua-cam.com/video/JrMiSQAGOS4/v-deo.html
V dry informative and intelegent
As a westerner, I always find it extremely ignorant to paint Putin as irrational.
Everything he is doing is extremely rational - if you don't think so, all that shows is that you either don't understand the geostrategic game or that you are engaging in disingenuous polemics.
That doesn't mean he can't make miscalculations, but what he is doing makes a lot of sense.
It makes perfect sense, as long as nobody opposes him. And what do you know...
Well said
@@seeker296 casualties and opposition are part of the calculation. They are a price that he is willing to pay. You have to think in terms of short term vs long term as well.
Immediate vs indirect (but just as real).
No sense to me. The long term view is even worse for Russia.
You mean as long as you go along with what he says...which what would you call that .....Iron is his fist ..yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Thank you for allowing us non Oxford grads to watch this. Very worrying but also nice to see a calm, balanced perspective.
I agree to a certain degree. It is a plausible narrative, however the problem with very intelligent people is that they can create a narrative that is so good and convincing that they even believe in it themself. And remember, this guys is the former MI6 chief, so I would not say one should take for granted that he is entirely objective in his descriptions of everything he says.
@@jomen112 - I would go way further and say you can't take for granted that anything he says is objective. What he is doing is re-enforcing the MSM agenda whilst making the west look whiter than white. These people in this audience get to hear things like this regularly, and they go on to be the next generation of politicians (after passing through the bullingdon boys club of course). I would say to them all, start listening to the alternative agenda and alternative news because ALL you are listening to is MSM. The BBC are supposed to work to a royal charter to be fair and impartial in all matters, but that royal charter is unpoliced and in fact they are anything but fair and impartial, in fact they are suppressing RT news at this moment in time to ensure that you can't even hear the news from the other side.
@@jezzyby47 If you believe the lies on RT, a Russian government channel, that is your right. Most of us would roll our eyes after a few minutes and switch channels.
Not really a balance perspective because he tried to blame Donald Trump for stopping the Iran nuclear deal that was the best thing that Donald Trump ever done of his government……… Iran was paid by the west with pallet loads of cash yes don’t take my word for it Google it it’s there in a public realm the information what kind of a country would wanna be paid with pallet loads of cash so that they can find a proxy wars in the area and destabilise the region Donald Trump was a hero Stopping this duplicitous regime from receiving cash these middle-class idiots don’t understand Iran will say one thing that we’re going to stop doing the nuclear stuff and then they do it in secret anyway.……
So many things to say about this idiot going on about climate change with a conference to deal with security of Ukraine and harping on about how Brexit was a mistake will it wasn’t a mistake for the millions of working-class Brits who had suffered on the mass uncontrolled migration it was a lifeline my job my wages have gone up there’s such a shortage of drivers my boss now paid me a Liverpool and sustainable ways because he’s forced to because he doesn’t no one is going to drive his van is sofa working class people it’s a wonderful thing and no mention the fact that he worked under Tony Blair which is forgotten to mention a war which killed 1 million Iraqis let that sink in 1 million Iraqis dead and illegal war which he has failed to talk about the hypocrisy is absolutely shocking and staggering
@20:31 what is that?
What do you expect from the organisation that creates, steers these situations. No surprises also that it is held at Oxford.
I'm constantly surprised what you may find on UA-cam . Thank you Oxford Union for letting us , the general public hear and watch this . His thinking is so clear and so well informed !
Yesterday I made a comment to a similar post of yours. And to quote myself:
_"I agree to a certain degree. It is a plausible narrative, however the problem with very intelligent people is that they can create a narrative that is so good and convincing that they even believe in it themself. And remember, this guys is the former MI6 chief, so I would not say one should take for granted that he is entirely objective in his descriptions of everything he says."_
Or in short, as someone else suggested how they woud phrase it "take it with a grain of salt".
You’re a Russian agent working from Russia’s Internet Research agency in St Petersburg. You create profiles with names like “welshpete12” and then make comments like this with verbiage that a local speaker would never use. You then exploit the algorithm to have the comment appear at the top - your real reason is the replied comment at the bottom of this that tells us to take this with a grain of salt. We see how you work.
Pete ditto on that. Regardless of what one might think about this guy's analysis... He knows of what he speaks!!!!
Hes has not mentioned the Neo right wing group that putin and media have said.. they have killed over 18000 Russian speaking Ukrainians is this true?????? Watch Jimmy Dore to hear the other side ....
Wake up, it's all a psyop by design, they all against us regular people every single one of them on the world stage
Yes, we will definitely receive a fair and unbiased perspective on the situation from the head of the MI6. Maybe interview the CIA chief next? 😂
yeah, especially the guy who went into Iraq with Blair... and now sits on the board of BP... amazing coincidence i guess.