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    In this week's episode of Minutes With, we sat down with Annie Machon, a former MI5 spy and intelligence officer who acted as a whistleblower, exposing government secrets and going on the run. Annie discusses her recruitment into MI5, her postings working on international terrorism and surveillance, and the series of events that led her to decide to expose government intel.
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  • @LADbible
    @LADbible  Рік тому +225

    With thanks to Annie for sharing her story!
    You can read more about Annie and the work she does at worldethicaldata.org/team
    Buy her book here - www.amazon.com/Privacy-Mission-Achieving-Ethical-Online/dp/1119906962

    • @pedrogama4585
      @pedrogama4585 Рік тому

      This Woman just sounds like another DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE ?!? and the fact that she speaks in Plural "we", should be a warning sign? when she got in the Secrete Service she didnt know what she was getting into? does anyone know ANY Spy Agency in the entire World who hasnt FuK$ UP like this?

    • @OJKG
      @OJKG Рік тому +2

      Need a Minutes With podcast with her.

    • @F4Insight-uq6nt
      @F4Insight-uq6nt Рік тому +6

      Actor.. Proof of all claims Required.

    • @DianaKazimiera-
      @DianaKazimiera- Рік тому

      Great respect and good luck 🕊️

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 7 місяців тому

      Family & Me are Politically Singled Out & Targeted by Our Wonderful Singapore Government . My “ Crime” am Key Witness & Whistleblower . Any Advice ?

  • @freemanpal
    @freemanpal Рік тому +2025

    Hi to the MI5 agent reading these comments 👋

  • @gremsta
    @gremsta 9 місяців тому +261

    When exposing a crime is being treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 24 дні тому

      ....
      Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today
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      Come to Jesus Christ today
      Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
      Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
      Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
      Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
      Romans 6.23
      For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
      John 3:16-21
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
      Mark 1.15
      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
      Hebrews 11:6
      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
      Jesus

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 22 дні тому +3

      Dirty work by intelligence agancies are no crimes. They are a hard necessity. It's often heartbreaking work, but it has to be done by the right folks, for the greater better.

    • @sunnyonion3461
      @sunnyonion3461 19 днів тому

      @@Retroscoop I suppose you believe the government is here to help you...

    • @g3rdus12
      @g3rdus12 14 днів тому +7

      @@Retroscoopsure buddy whatever helps you sleep

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto 8 днів тому

      So, your point is, presumably, that if we know that our enemies are attacking us, that we should 'turn the other cheek'. If innocent people get harmed, and laws are broken, in the process of defending the public and the rule of law; how many people would be harmed, and how many laws would be broken if such a defense wasn't in place? Your oversimplification is just a smoke-screen for excusing the attackers. Just like terrorists saying "You made me blow those people up".

  • @anthonybranco
    @anthonybranco Місяць тому +197

    This is a good woman. We need more people like this in the police both local and federal, military and the intelligence agencies.

    • @cassandracurse7065
      @cassandracurse7065 Місяць тому

      Sadly its too late now....we ( the Western World ) have all become police states....because its easier to control us...WE HAVE BECOME WHAT WE ACCUSE OTHERS OF....and sadly there is no way out

    • @heartofsteel7821
      @heartofsteel7821 24 дні тому

      I love Sings from kenny and Dolly. Anyway, the world must be United to see Ukraine facsism defeated plus there western sponsors so that we can still enjoy this kind of music throughout. Israeli Nazim mist also get thesame fate as the Hitler fascism. God bless Russia. Long Live Putin.

    • @user-zh1th8sz2l
      @user-zh1th8sz2l 24 дні тому

      Really, that's what the world needs, more women like this? I think we need less women like this. As in women who would never even consider joining the CIA, or the MI6, or whatever they call it in England. Not ones who join, because they're so personally ambitious that being in the state dept. isn't good enough, and they get talked into something even juicer. And then eventually what's left of their soul can't take it any longer, and so they turn state's evidence.
      So I would say that's not what the world is craving right about now. I guess it's better than nothing.

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 24 дні тому

      Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
      There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
      Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
      Come to Jesus Christ today
      Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
      Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
      Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
      Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
      Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will
      John 3:16-21
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
      Mark 1.15
      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
      Hebrews 11:6
      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
      Jesus

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 22 дні тому +3

      Wrong. She's a good woman yes, she's the wrong choice as a field agent however.

  • @clipped6963
    @clipped6963 Рік тому +502

    I feel so bad for her. Imagine choosing to risk your career, love life for not much to change that’s a sickening thought. Bless her ❤️

    • @Ash01010
      @Ash01010 11 місяців тому +2

      who asked

    • @indigoblue4791
      @indigoblue4791 8 місяців тому +20

      It's hard to put a price on ones integrity and sense of morality.

    • @tzm1843
      @tzm1843 Місяць тому +5

      Snowden did even more, and he got trapped in Russia

    • @charliesmith_
      @charliesmith_ Місяць тому

      Silly thing to do.
      Mistrust and paranoia is best created by resigning and blowing a loudly traceable whistle.
      University recruiting always ends that way.
      EGOCENTRICALLY.
      In 1970 we already had more technical equipment than she knew.
      Oh well.
      She has her tale to tell.

    • @adriansmith5446
      @adriansmith5446 Місяць тому

      They're trying to up the tariff, for each offence, to 14 years, for whistle-blowers and journalists. They are the enemy.

  • @dandeeteeyem2170
    @dandeeteeyem2170 Рік тому +2147

    Against all odds, not for money or fame, for no meaningful change to be made after your efforts... you still chose to do the right thing. People like you, are heroes to me. ❤

    • @Jamie-js3qw
      @Jamie-js3qw Рік тому +10

      if there is no meaningful change, why do it? There was change. It's inevitable. How do you know it wsnt for fame? Not that it makes it wrong, it was the right thing to do. She sold books from it etc. so money ws involved. You r just making assumptions ....I think it was great, though.

    • @dandeeteeyem2170
      @dandeeteeyem2170 Рік тому +1

      @@Jamie-js3qw if you don't stick to your core values, due to peer group pressure or fear of reprisals, eventually we will all end up in a race to the bottom. Lead by example, and when you're faced with your own mortality someday, trust me?. You want to be at peace when that happens. If you're religious, or atheist, it won't matter when you check out.. I'd much rather go out with a near death hallucination, journey, final flicker of my candle to occur with a clear conscience. You don't want to find out that death is a long hallucination where your life flashes before your eyes, it feels like forever, and all you see is the things you were involved in that killed innocent people.
      Unless you are a sociopath, I suppose.. Then I guess you'd just need some popcorn..
      :P

    • @NoctisMotus
      @NoctisMotus Рік тому +31

      @@Jamie-js3qw Sometimes, even though we may lose the battle, we must still stand and fight.
      The proverbial genie, of course, is well and truly out of the bottle.

    • @zimprince195
      @zimprince195 Рік тому +14

      ​@Jamie What a stupid question, lol.

    • @imperatormouse2735
      @imperatormouse2735 Рік тому

      Yeah, murdering foreign politicians or pushing for a regime change in order to benefit from it is heroic. Scumbags...

  • @froogsleegs
    @froogsleegs Рік тому +1706

    Annie saying at the end that whistleblowing cost her everything but she feels nothing has truly changed, and may even be worse than before, is a genuinely haunting statement.
    "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face- for ever."

    • @keir1984
      @keir1984 Рік тому

      "not unless you are a smart motherfucking pawn" - Bodie Broadus

    • @saint-miscreant
      @saint-miscreant Рік тому +48

      it’s like john oliver’s interview with snowden, you can see the moment he gets reminded of it and has a mini existential crisis…

    • @Kpleaides
      @Kpleaides Рік тому

      It's true things have gotten worse our whistleblowing has gotten ppl only poisoned, disability, loss of life loss of everything
      And the world has become worse.
      90% whistleblowers are dead.

    • @ninja12lawbreaker
      @ninja12lawbreaker Рік тому

      If everybody refuses to vote at the next election they have no mandate

    • @notpissedenough5623
      @notpissedenough5623 Рік тому

      @@saint-miscreant The UK west are openly funding Nazis, while you can be jailed for using slurs in the UK. And the public don't care.

  • @nimblefingers2324
    @nimblefingers2324 6 місяців тому +164

    What a wonderfully moral woman. This is the type of person we need in government; honourable, honest, and emotionally intelligent. Great woman!

  • @geeunit831
    @geeunit831 10 місяців тому +144

    I'd love to see a series on whistleblowers with Annie. Her story and the way she tells it is so compelling.

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 8 місяців тому +2

      Liars often are compelling.

    • @geeunit831
      @geeunit831 7 місяців тому +10

      @@paulanderson7796 you sound so compelling, go on...

    • @mayankexodus
      @mayankexodus 7 місяців тому +5

      Would be absolutely heartbreaking to see governments crushing the Snowdens and Assanges of our world.

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 7 місяців тому +1

      @@mayankexodus It absolutely would be heartbreaking. Snowden was lucky, Putin has granted him refuge in Russia. Personally I think Putin is one of the finest diplomats the world has ever seen. He is not even remotely like the monster Western media makes out that he is.
      I am not sure about this Annie Machon character. She seems like an attention seeker to me.

    • @carlrichieukmusic
      @carlrichieukmusic 7 місяців тому +2

      @@paulanderson7796 where is she lying?

  • @Matt_Bond
    @Matt_Bond Рік тому +674

    I saw Annie give a talk at a conference for cannabis reform in Bristol back in 2013. She was facinating to listen to. I remember a point she made about how the war on drugs is directly funding terrorism, and how the government are completely aware of this. 'Deliberately unjoined thinking'.

    • @fab-ian
      @fab-ian Рік тому +23

      It is strange, isn't it? It's not hard to work out that making sure people can only get drugs from criminals means that drug use funds terrorism.
      Then there are all of the social, health and tax benefits of taking a public health perspective when it comes to drugs, rather than crime perspective.
      It seems the only thing keeping us from decriminalising or even legalising drugs (and therefore achieving all of the related benefits) is people's irrational fears and unwillingness to be open.

    • @millerctongs
      @millerctongs Рік тому

      The same people who are waging a war against drugs are also the same people benefiting from terrorism, fear is the currency that rules the world. If everyone knew this they would know how corrupt and evil the basterds are that control governments of the west

    • @micklyons8858
      @micklyons8858 Рік тому +4

      @@fab-ian Selling drugs on shelves is pretty dumb.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Рік тому

      @@fab-ian they want terrorists and criminals in order to justify their draconian laws and powers and restrictions of freedom etc, which they use to control us.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Рік тому +1

      @Manic Miner they do

  • @mr.shutterz5348
    @mr.shutterz5348 Рік тому +684

    This is super interesting and Annie displays a huge amount of bravery not only then but also now to talk about this. Especially admitting that it hasn’t necessarily changed much, but at the very least she can live with herself knowing she tried to make a change to the system that’s in place 👍

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +10

      Once she left the security services and blew the whistle, she was no longer a threat to them, so they have left her alone.

    • @diorocks5858
      @diorocks5858 10 місяців тому

      she is a lunatic Gaddafi was not only a murderer he was a rapist

  • @Tracey-zr5do
    @Tracey-zr5do 7 місяців тому +21

    I feel for Annie. Why is it that good people with a moral compass who bravely seek to speak the truth in order to keep the masses informed, aware and able to be protected are the very ones who are then hunted, harrassed, stalked, bullied and targeted from the top, to the point of losing everything you have. I'm out of money, through no fault of my own and will now lose my house. I've had a "series of unfortunate events" as the film of the same title portrays. So many awful things, intentional underhand things have been thrust not just at me but at my family over the years. All for being honest! Something is truly wrong when innocent people are targeted by excuses for people who have access to your life, when they are not fit to! Stay safe Annie. Thank you for the insight. God bless you and your family 👍

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 Місяць тому

      Did they really think it was going to be any different?

  • @AdventureSam
    @AdventureSam 8 місяців тому +44

    The eyes tell no lies, she knows a lot and it haunts her.

  • @tosti24
    @tosti24 Рік тому +375

    Not only she's extremely eloquent telling a unique story, but her tone has a soothing effect on me. One of my favourites interviews to date.

    • @WindRipples-
      @WindRipples- Рік тому +6

      Deeznuts also might have a very soothin effect.

    • @chrischristofis8501
      @chrischristofis8501 22 дні тому

      That is so telling, so the hypno voice really does work on the weak minded, the training she recieved has paid off! God help us from women like her!

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 22 дні тому

      That are not exactly the most important qualities needed to become an effective field agent for an intelligence agency I'm afraid.
      She should have become newsreader, a radio reporter or indeed, a diplomat, fine with me. But not a field agent.
      That's not her mistake, that underlines how unprofessional the recruitment of field agents still was in those days, even after Philby & Co.
      Not sure about how that is today. If it is still as unprofessional, it's no wonder the Russians and Chinese remain the real spy masters.

  • @stephaniejooste3879
    @stephaniejooste3879 7 місяців тому +61

    Absolute respect for both of you for standing up for what was right!

  • @garyrobertshaw2202
    @garyrobertshaw2202 Рік тому +136

    What a beautiful well spoken educated woman she is. Fantastic insight into how our intelligence servics work. Good luck lady ❤

    • @sunriseboy4837
      @sunriseboy4837 7 місяців тому

      Ha, 'intelligence services' the biggest oxymoron on the planet. Killers. Assassins. Soul destroyers is closer to the mark.

    • @marcomustang876
      @marcomustang876 3 місяці тому +1

      Well spoken , just because she has a different accent 😮 ?

    • @ddoherty5956
      @ddoherty5956 Місяць тому +1

      Eye of the beholder

  • @andrewphi4958
    @andrewphi4958 15 днів тому +7

    Respect to her and all the couragous people with unsuppressed sense of justice!

  • @AimeeAimee444
    @AimeeAimee444 Рік тому +130

    Annie is correct, we are being watched 24/7, even if our record is clean.

    • @allykhan8594
      @allykhan8594 11 місяців тому +9

      Yeah! But they don't won't the Chinese to be looking over their shoulders.

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 8 місяців тому +16

      That kind of mass surveillance is impossible on a practical level. Even if you can track every keystroke, every syllable, it is not possible to analyse that volume of data in any way at all. Intelligence is about knowing what data to gather.

    • @DarkHistory-fp1qm
      @DarkHistory-fp1qm 5 місяців тому

      @@paulanderson7796it is with ai..

    • @nickoffury
      @nickoffury 3 місяці тому +4

      @@paulanderson7796I came here to say essentially the same thing lol 😂 these people watch waaaay too many movies

    • @cathrynmclean7624
      @cathrynmclean7624 Місяць тому

      Sad ting is when our services just watch and watch and dont act ..no point to them! They just watch n tell ..and watch innocents die..waste of bloody time and money ..ie ; they knew about Lee Rigbys murderers 10 years before they struck ..but they just kept watching them from a distance ...seems perverted and slow ..if you did that to average toddler theyd all grow up as crims ..first sign of misbehaviour severe kick in butt ..now we have thousands of terrorists pro Hamas and Pro Isis marching the streets with signs very boldly ..working in govmnt offices too ..a joke

  • @jackaddie7866
    @jackaddie7866 Рік тому +109

    I could listen to Annie talk about anything. She’s amazing

    • @johnson2joy
      @johnson2joy Рік тому +5

      I was chilled to the bone .....not by her voice but by the content she spoke about!

    • @scotishjohn
      @scotishjohn 11 місяців тому

      ​@@johnson2joy tbeb[ner

  • @benndanny12
    @benndanny12 7 місяців тому +86

    A very brave individual who was prepared to sacrifice herself for the greater good. She deserves the highest accolades society can give.

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto 8 днів тому

      "..the greater good"? By undermining the defense that we have mounted against our enemies, that is the pursuit of 'the greater good'. Better to have no defense and suffer the consequences than have a defense that doesn't always work as you might have wished. I guess if you are one of the attackers, that would be correct.

    • @benndanny12
      @benndanny12 7 днів тому

      @@thePronto Accountability will always benefit democracy in the end.

  • @Albert-Plays-Roblox
    @Albert-Plays-Roblox Рік тому +124

    This is why, despite all the fascination around secret agencies, and despite my own personal qualifications, I could never work in such an environment. I remember low level intelligence jobs recruiters coming to the campus and making it all appear fantastic, but I ran away from them at full speed. The injustices would make my blood boil and I would surely crash.

    • @Isaac-ho8gh
      @Isaac-ho8gh 6 місяців тому +4

      Same. Although I would like to anonymously show fucked up shit of whatever agency I worked for if I ever did.

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 Місяць тому +3

      Being a fantasist isn't a qualification

    • @wealthyspaces1131
      @wealthyspaces1131 Місяць тому +2

      Me too - I had a job ideal for spying on a certain culture but I couldn’t do that given my own ancestry and the British establishment have never been held in high esteem 😮

    • @pecelirovucago7149
      @pecelirovucago7149 Місяць тому +2

      I’m not proud of my dad who died in action in the Pacific War , a 2WW Commando jungle warfare specialist from a mountain tribe in Fiji island.
      July, 1943 , I was 6 months old.
      He died for the US Marine and the British , but they canceled my war pension in August 1952 !
      I was 9 years old , I told my mother don’t cry I will take care of you .
      Thanks !

  • @yellow1one
    @yellow1one Рік тому +44

    I remember the Bishopsgate bombing. I was sitting in my living room in Archway, North London, when I felt the shock-wave from the blast shake the window!

  • @lukasvisagie9513
    @lukasvisagie9513 Місяць тому +5

    To sacrifice your career and normal life for the sake of your beliefs, "doing the right thing", must have taken a lot of courage and a very strong conviction. I admire you and David for that. I hope things are better for you now!

  • @siriusthestar1763
    @siriusthestar1763 Рік тому +123

    a question that always pops in my mind whenever I watch a interview like this, how do these people protect themselves/get rid of these people hunting for them and live to talk about it?

    • @CavalierNTX
      @CavalierNTX 10 місяців тому +4

      What good would it do to shoot the messenger precisely? The message is very clear and consistent no matter what side of the political divide you're listening from. Be obedient, don't question the narratives and your social credit score will determine your quality of life.

    • @lawton6123
      @lawton6123 10 місяців тому +5

      There is another layer that watches them

    • @td2222
      @td2222 10 місяців тому +5

      ​​@@CavalierNTXhat good would it do? LOL How about scaring future potential whistle blowers? 😂😂

    • @CavalierNTX
      @CavalierNTX 10 місяців тому +4

      @@td2222 if whistle blowing were legit then we wouldnt have needed Wikileaks would we now? She does a pretty good job of telling people how pointless blowing whistles is...

    • @brianc672
      @brianc672 10 місяців тому +11

      Good question, don't be too obvious. She has put herself in the media to have somewhat of a blanket of security, temporally. I bet with 10 years; she'll randomly have a "heart attack."

  • @alexw9024
    @alexw9024 Рік тому +51

    I would like to thank ladbible for doing these interviews. Honest and interesting.

  • @mrbbqcraig
    @mrbbqcraig 8 місяців тому +11

    A very gutsy lady 🤟✨

  • @ultimate.phoenix
    @ultimate.phoenix Рік тому +499

    Very interesting. The case of the Palestinian youths arrested was very sad , similar to the many Irish who were jailed and falsely accused of IRA membership. Fair play to this whistle blower . Very brave lady

    • @TH3CAPN
      @TH3CAPN Рік тому +11

      Irish is a different kettle of fish

    • @ultimate.phoenix
      @ultimate.phoenix Рік тому +8

      @@TH3CAPN yeah we had 800 years of it but thank God things have slowly shifted. Peace is imperative to overall happiness. Sometimes peace comes through struggle and violence but thats certainly not the ideal 😉

    • @herv7539
      @herv7539 Рік тому +8

      Me, me, me, me, all about me, all about the Irish.

    • @ultimate.phoenix
      @ultimate.phoenix Рік тому +1

      @@herv7539 🤣🤣🤣🤣 gobshite .. that's a word we have for you

    • @GG-kf8ox
      @GG-kf8ox Рік тому

      ​@Herv You can't have it both ways ! What the Russians are doing in Ukraine is exactly what the British state did in Ireland 🇮🇪 !

  • @Alien9828
    @Alien9828 Рік тому +18

    Very brave lady, I take my hat off to her, and now in 2023 we still call ourselves a democracy, thankyou Annie for sharing your story. Stay safe❤😊

  • @ericpenrose3541
    @ericpenrose3541 Рік тому +25

    So now I've just realised how UK Govt - and no doubt Keir Starmer - are so easy helping US govt out with Assange - we're becoming particularly bad with not just the intel whistleblowers but the press 14 years prison per charge of prison!!?. Chilling.
    But the heroic actions like her and David's need to be kept in mind.

  • @wickandde
    @wickandde 7 місяців тому +7

    Brave lady indeed

  • @dubyadubyaeee
    @dubyadubyaeee Рік тому +56

    Professor McGonagall is that you?

    • @warrenwilson36
      @warrenwilson36 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @HK-vy3fh
      @HK-vy3fh Рік тому +3

      I thought it was Maggie Smith as well lol. Maybe her long-lost secret spy sister...

    • @KataSzekeres
      @KataSzekeres 7 місяців тому +1

      eyes like that are called “gülü szem” in Hungarian

    • @KataSzekeres
      @KataSzekeres 7 місяців тому

      or “kiguvado”

    • @mzungumzungu336
      @mzungumzungu336 6 місяців тому

      No. Just Maggie Smith’s doppelgänger.

  • @Chad-ul4om
    @Chad-ul4om Рік тому +11

    This is the first interview on UA-cam I've not had to speed up the playback, she speaks at a class pace 👏

  • @Truthseeker1977
    @Truthseeker1977 Рік тому +12

    Respect to you for speaking up! I hope you are safe and well.

  • @Celeste.Martel
    @Celeste.Martel Рік тому +12

    As an avid watcher of The Behavior Panel (Body Language Experts for non-watchers), I thought that was very interesting that she did a ''cut'' move with her finger on her throat while saying the phrase ''a slide towards totalitarism'' at the end of the video, I think that speaks loudly of her feeling of dread about a democracy ending. Chilling.

  • @Psych0boost
    @Psych0boost 10 місяців тому +119

    Huge respect for Annie. She came from a privileged background and could’ve easily kept quiet about the situation to continue living a cushy life, but she cast it all aside, using her skills and knowledge for justice.
    Legend

    • @esmeecampbell7396
      @esmeecampbell7396 6 місяців тому +4

      We're only hearing her side of the story though.
      For example they've never proven the Bishopsgate bomb could have been stopped, they didn't for example name the people that supposedly MI5 would have been following, or what exactly was "bungled" for example whether it was the IRA smuggling the bomb in and they got lucky with a section of lights and managed to slip away down a road that wasn't covered or what exactly.
      Her fella also went completely insane and started raving about aliens and now thinks he's a woman 😂 not exactly the sort of person you should be trusting to have a reasonable discussion based on facts with.

  • @efnissien
    @efnissien Рік тому +26

    Several years ago, I was about to join the Royal Marines, when I was approached by an individual dressed in a naval officers uniform, with no rank insignia, no medals etc. He wasn't navy though, he saluted in the 'palm outward' style used by the Army, Marines & Airforce not the ''Palm down' of the navy. He had Laurel leaves on his cap, which meant he was too senior an officer to be interviewing candidates. He chatted informally, mentioned a few things that let me know he knew exactly who I was... and then asked me about a friend (who was also in the process of joining the Marines) and if he'd shown any political leanings (I answered honestly - 'no') and 'if a place in the same troop could be guaranteed' would I be prepared to report back on him? I politely declined and ended any military career.
    I mentioned this to someone I trusted who was 'in the know', and they said he was certainly the same character that had approached him in the preceding weeks. The trusted confidante told me he was certainly intelligence and that if I'd have done it, I'd have been military intelligences 'bitch' for life. Or if I'd have continued with pursuing my military career after refusing, it probably would have stalled my career (if I'd have been allowed in) and I'd have found myself being refused all promotion and training courses.

    • @FredericFreedom
      @FredericFreedom 7 місяців тому +1

      Wow 😮

    • @efnissien
      @efnissien 7 місяців тому +3

      @@FredericFreedom And not my last encounter with the intelligence services either.

    • @alienshe-officialchannel9686
      @alienshe-officialchannel9686 2 місяці тому +1

      Can you please share more about your other experiences ​@@efnissien

    • @ddoherty5956
      @ddoherty5956 Місяць тому +4

      Better to keep your soul lad, good decision.

    • @d3vovus
      @d3vovus Місяць тому

      Was this troop 235 in late 2016?

  • @janbarber7807
    @janbarber7807 Рік тому +13

    Extraordinarily brave people you and your partner are!Smart,too!Thank you for being!

  • @irenejoyce8456
    @irenejoyce8456 7 місяців тому +14

    This woman needs to be recognized and appreciated by the British gvt!

  • @davidthomas477
    @davidthomas477 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you gor your service to humanity. Without these brave men and women of conscience we would all be living in a totalitarian hell.❤

    • @lagringa7518
      @lagringa7518 Місяць тому

      It's here.

    • @davidthomas477
      @davidthomas477 Місяць тому +2

      @@lagringa7518 no, it may seem that way, but now is the time when we head this off and through the power of our own words and actions step into a reality of our own making.:)

    • @lagringa7518
      @lagringa7518 Місяць тому

      @@davidthomas477 🤞

  • @starrycrown
    @starrycrown Рік тому +8

    Annie, I think you would be a marvelous narrator of audible books! Lovely voice.

  • @miadiem2048
    @miadiem2048 Рік тому +15

    thanks for following the truth! Without people like you these state organizations would be a lot worse and we a lot further towards a police state. Even if it maybe seems like not much has changed, in the long run it is so important to get truths out again and again. So that the bigger mass can see what is really going on and can eventually stop this abuse of power and money. I‘m really thankful for your brave work!

  • @josiepegg2211
    @josiepegg2211 Рік тому +40

    This series is fabulous. Annie's story and message is so important as much now as then.

  • @tonyking9235
    @tonyking9235 11 місяців тому +29

    AT LEAST YOU CAN SLEEP SOUND AT NIGHT KNOWING YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. WE THANK YOU ⚘⚘⚘⚘

    • @Masterfard019
      @Masterfard019 Місяць тому

      Can she? How would you know 😂😂

    • @tonyking9235
      @tonyking9235 Місяць тому

      @@Masterfard019 HOW DO YOU KNOW . SHE DONT

  • @fatoufrancescambow5876
    @fatoufrancescambow5876 Рік тому +14

    The world feels like a much better place with human beings with your integrity. Thank you. For truly caring. It changes everything 🙂🌻🧡

  • @anikaru547
    @anikaru547 Рік тому +12

    her insights about surveillance and police states are very ominous. great interview guest.

  • @mikeheffins8025
    @mikeheffins8025 Рік тому +36

    Great interview, very honest! 10/10

  • @luimackjohnson302
    @luimackjohnson302 2 місяці тому +3

    Amazing! Thank you for sharing. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!

  • @peanutbutter7521
    @peanutbutter7521 Рік тому +4

    thankyou for sharing this story. incredibly important and i wish more people knew about this.

  • @Wendelvendel
    @Wendelvendel Рік тому +43

    This was excellent. Thanks for shining a light on this person, their story and their sacrifices.

    • @mercedesblack7828
      @mercedesblack7828 Рік тому

      Sacrifice? She's ruined her career because she let her partner run amok with no victory. I mean Shayler potty nonsense on Mi5/6 and Diana conspiracies are deeply concerning - not because they are true either!
      .
      Ex Murdoch staffer as well.
      Surprise!

  • @esporter5721
    @esporter5721 Рік тому +90

    Mind blown. We thank you for what you did for our country. Makes me proud to be British.

    • @Hartley_Hare
      @Hartley_Hare Рік тому +11

      Don't accept what you're being told at face value. That's all.

    • @td2222
      @td2222 10 місяців тому +1

      This comment is so incredibly ignorant. You ruin the world.

    • @BonganiMagadu
      @BonganiMagadu 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Hartley_Hare😅

  • @bigdav123456
    @bigdav123456 6 днів тому +1

    When you finally realise that your Morals overrule orders, you become Human.! Nice one Annie. xx Stay safe love. x What is right, will always be right, no matter how you spin it.!!

  • @darrenb1117
    @darrenb1117 Рік тому +60

    I would love to spend a day OR a week listening to this lady, especially over a beer. Articulate and intelligent. A rare form these days.

    • @keir1984
      @keir1984 Рік тому +2

      You'd be nursing that beer

    • @darrenb1117
      @darrenb1117 Рік тому

      @@TruthShallSetYouFree2023 the correct spelling is “around” - I’m sure that’s a typo. I live in Asia. Try and not be too judgmental. 👍🏼

    • @krob2327
      @krob2327 Рік тому

      She’s a trained liar

    • @emmmoo8631
      @emmmoo8631 Рік тому

      a beer? she prob drinks wine........

    • @emmawynne3456
      @emmawynne3456 9 місяців тому +1

      I shared some sambuca with her once. She's v interesting.

  • @ciaranoconnor6525
    @ciaranoconnor6525 Рік тому +26

    Legit thought Professor McGonagol had been a former MI5 agent

  • @OfftheRecord2021
    @OfftheRecord2021 Рік тому +23

    The thrilling account of how one individual exposed government secrets and had to go on the run highlights the power of whistleblowers in holding those in power accountable. This kind of bravery should be featured on OTR, it is very relevant in the Philippines.

  • @benthejrporter
    @benthejrporter 7 місяців тому +2

    I met Annie and David a few times and have a lot of respect for what they both did.

  • @RIPxBlackHawk
    @RIPxBlackHawk Рік тому +13

    Imagine being the guy who recommended her, in the back of the office as the entire HR is watching this video

  • @cuba5381
    @cuba5381 Рік тому +23

    I have two video's on my channel of what happened to me 15 years ago after making a complaint at Immigration, where I worked and after applying to Mi5. My future was destroyed. I had been talking about how girls were being abused at the Home Office and how Immigration were corrupt. Mi5 , the IPT, Police , MP's all knew about this before I did the video's and they weren't of much help. I totally understand where she is coming from and in my experience, no one wants to know. I didn't want to know what I was told, but I think it's in the Public interest to know that you can be watched , manipulated and caused to be dangerous to yourself or others by the Home Office and Mi5. Had I died , the truth would not have come out.

  • @randymac9539
    @randymac9539 Місяць тому +3

    the world needs more people like this

  • @fredsmith2213
    @fredsmith2213 Рік тому +4

    I remember you sister soldier ✌️...it's been a while since you've popped up into my recommendations...nice to see you again 👍

  • @joekonderla8842
    @joekonderla8842 11 місяців тому +33

    I once dated a girl who works for MI5. She wasn’t aloud to talk about many things. I’m not making a joke when I say it was refreshing not to have to talk about our jobs at home.

    • @esmeecampbell7396
      @esmeecampbell7396 6 місяців тому +4

      Or did she just want to not tell you where she actually worked/talk about work at all and that was a good excuse? 😂

    • @joekonderla8842
      @joekonderla8842 6 місяців тому

      Perhaps 😂@@esmeecampbell7396

    • @kay.kay.kay.
      @kay.kay.kay. 2 місяці тому +3

      She definitely worked down at the local gentleman’s club and didn’t want you to ask her about her day every time she got home

    • @elleJay-mb4yn
      @elleJay-mb4yn Місяць тому

      @@kay.kay.kay.😂

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 Місяць тому +2

      She wouldn't have told you she worked for MI5 if she did.

  • @Druni-boutique
    @Druni-boutique Рік тому +15

    Great speaker could listen to her all day, really interesting content ...

  • @joeboyd8702
    @joeboyd8702 11 місяців тому +2

    Great interview. thanks for uploading.

  • @Loobylooto2
    @Loobylooto2 Рік тому +2

    Excellent channel and another excellent post
    Thank you so much

  • @markberman6708
    @markberman6708 7 місяців тому +13

    The fight is real and it is now or never. We must have more people like her.

  • @bonlevina5621
    @bonlevina5621 Місяць тому +4

    She got Betty Davis eyes.

  • @akesha4138
    @akesha4138 29 днів тому

    Thank you for reporting. You are my ideal hero, brave and balanced towards justice. You are loved!

  • @southerncomfortuk
    @southerncomfortuk Рік тому +7

    🙏 great interview thank you, and fantastic insight.

  • @trickee2526
    @trickee2526 8 місяців тому +10

    No way she’s alive to tell this story. There’s a lot more to this 💯

  • @thelonesomewanderer8359
    @thelonesomewanderer8359 Рік тому +93

    imagine that, 14 years per charge for whistleblowing, it'd make sense if you were just leaking sensitive information vital to the countries security but when you're just blowing the whistle on underhanded things and criminal charges this seems preposterous

    • @celina3042
      @celina3042 Рік тому +21

      What I don’t get is how comes it’s so hard to convict rapists but whistleblowers get convicted so easily? I’m beginning to think society isn’t made for the everyday person….

    • @Davey-Boyd
      @Davey-Boyd Рік тому +6

      @@celina3042 It's easier to convict because they had signed the Official Secrets Act, basically a statement/contract that you won't leak info, and that you know the consequences if you do beforehand. I'm not disagreeing with you though.

    • @timo1312
      @timo1312 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@celina3042And you would be right to think that. The system is NOT set up for people like you and me, it's set up by those in control for those in control

    • @EllaBella-76
      @EllaBella-76 Місяць тому

      @@celina3042•I discovered pointless exercise causes more stress than the rape and you sit wait after trying to process all this crazy shit that’s happened like a train wreck of a life literally and I still have people that are oblivious to the amount of crimes one of my friends tonight said “He never heard of any rape in Olympics-Given 1/5 don’t report and England appears top of the league in all this ..🙇‍♀️Cops are more crooked than robbers and it’s not counted as a major crime locally you’re now told phone 101 or 111 whatever the correct number is ..I agree with you just statistics and silence the right to silence personally forget a prosecution I rather have a 1/1 with the twat that raped me at 7 Restorative Justice see if he can look me in the eye answer some questions..

  • @chazixon5913
    @chazixon5913 7 місяців тому +2

    This is fantastic, well done

  • @yingzhang7637
    @yingzhang7637 Місяць тому +2

    Both of you are heroes. Saddened, you have suffered personally. But I believe you are free for the common good in Soul.

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 Місяць тому

      Shayler was a loon that thought he was the Son of God and she believed him.

    • @yingzhang7637
      @yingzhang7637 Місяць тому

      @@bfc3057 when Shayler signed up with the MI5, I doubted that he was provided an independent legal advise. If they joined the government agency when they were young, they might not fully understand the liabilities awaited. They thought they served for the purpose of the Public interest. It turned out it was not the public interest but the government interest at the time. Shayler was hunted down by the provision of public interest. We all know as of today, these two can be divorced, i.e., the public interest (the voter's interest) and the government. Both of them served for the government, not necessary for the public interest. when Shayler was convicted for disclosure of confidential information for the reasons of a draconian contract he signed without an independent legal advice at the first place. He should be pardoned after disciplined, giving if there was no actual damages to the public interest not the government. Overall, this example should discourage young, naive university students or graduates without working experience to join the government machinery. The machinery crushes private citizen as a cockroach. I still believe public interest and government interest are not necessarily the same thing.

  • @bird5007
    @bird5007 8 місяців тому +3

    Apparently its pretty common for people from Oxbridge to be recruited like this

  • @adoptmewithjazz8837
    @adoptmewithjazz8837 Рік тому +6

    Fascinating interview

  • @anthonybyne2724
    @anthonybyne2724 Рік тому +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.

  • @SophieTindall-jo7rx
    @SophieTindall-jo7rx 9 місяців тому +2

    So brave to speak out 🙏🏻

  • @derekwatson7037
    @derekwatson7037 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks Annie !!!

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406 7 місяців тому +3

    Excellent video. What a fantastic person she is.

  • @lisamyles9503
    @lisamyles9503 2 місяці тому +1

    What an amazing lady Anne is. I could listen to her talk for hours.

  • @Aardappelpurree
    @Aardappelpurree Рік тому +19

    Very interesting. It's very important that these stories of our past are told so we can remember not to make the same mistakes in the future.

    • @davidgreg6989
      @davidgreg6989 Рік тому +1

      I pray God gives you lots of beautiful days, and give you more grace to keep pushing, I’m David Greg originally from Spain but currently in Texas and you?

    • @Aardappelpurree
      @Aardappelpurree Рік тому +1

      @@davidgreg6989 thank you David, that is nice of you

    • @davidgreg6989
      @davidgreg6989 Рік тому

      @@Aardappelpurree You’re welcome, how are you doing today?

  • @truejustice8849
    @truejustice8849 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for speaking the truth

    • @kkocaine
      @kkocaine Рік тому +1

      I hope the transparency wont stop here, this is a good progress

  • @thomascrowe3407
    @thomascrowe3407 Місяць тому +6

    Welcome to MI7!

    • @thomascrowe3407
      @thomascrowe3407 Місяць тому +1

      I personally have the entire 007 series. And never get tired of it.

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, that goes between Sligo and Galway.

    • @KigurumiAlice
      @KigurumiAlice 22 дні тому

      Agent Argyle...The Kings Men😮

  • @ukell3958
    @ukell3958 8 місяців тому +4

    Fascinating story! Shame about the outcome. Would make a great film.

  • @globalnomad450
    @globalnomad450 Рік тому +28

    Incredible story and quite disturbing to know some of what goes on “behind the scenes!” I can’t imagine what we don’t know or aren’t privy to …

    • @jonstfrancis
      @jonstfrancis Рік тому +4

      Tip of an iceberg for sure.

    • @esmeecampbell7396
      @esmeecampbell7396 6 місяців тому +2

      Ironically it's really the other way around.
      Think about it logically, a minor mistake in what was otherwise a successful assassination plot leads to the wrong car getting blown up, and some civilians dying. Not great, but let's not pretend assassinating world leaders is easy, even in Libya, they have protection, the fact it went ahead at all is impressive as the people who "walked in" could potentially have just taken the cash and run away...
      Now that isn't great but it isn't massively terrible either, you're implying the stuff we don't hear about is much worse, affecting many thousands across the UK every week levels of bad, BUT if a couple people getting killed in Libya was enough to cause these people to turn whistleblower then you really think NOBODY else in MI5 would for something many times worse? That doesn't stand to reason at all, everyone who works there is a human being, sure a disproportionately high number will be psychopaths but not all of them.
      When MI5 does something genuinely unequivocally "good", really well and stops a major terrorist attack, we naturally don't hear about it. They don't shout every success because it would make the next success less likely, the stuff we DON'T hear about is more likely fine.

    • @Lockdown335
      @Lockdown335 3 місяці тому +2

      Imagine all the things they have stopped from happening while your at it

  • @susanjones5905
    @susanjones5905 Рік тому +158

    Annie and her partner sacrificed a good chunk of their lives to try to do good, and it is quite honourable. I can't help wondering though if they had gone the anonymous route or become a mole for investigative papers and slowly leaked information whether it would have made a bigger impact, i.e. just been a lot more calculating.
    The interviewer, no offence to her, sounds bored, annoyed or outright rude in each interview. It's her tone. The quality of her questions also leaves a lot to be desired. I would kill for the opportunity to interview such interesting people.

    • @susanjones5905
      @susanjones5905 Рік тому +18

      But kudos to ladbible tv for covering interesting people and topics!

    • @RachelleBeyer
      @RachelleBeyer Рік тому +30

      I thought the same thing about the interviewer! Annie Machon deserved a more engaged interviewer.

    • @chriscross8077
      @chriscross8077 Рік тому +2

      I’ve thought this!

    • @eleanortoner6767
      @eleanortoner6767 Рік тому +17

      I disagree. I think the interviewer came across as impartial and the tone was appropriate for the gravity of the topic

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 Рік тому +8

      If you are going to be a whistle blower, your story MUST somehow make it clear that what happened was a systemic failure, not a one-off slip-up. The establishment will always claim it was the latter and make it look like you caused a great deal of trouble over one small slip-up. It is extremely difficult to counter that narrative especially when you are the small guy and your opponents have all the power and all the connections.

  • @IngeEvenwel
    @IngeEvenwel 7 днів тому

    Wow. Great interview. I feel for her and how it ruined her life. Hope she is well❤

  • @P..W
    @P..W 11 місяців тому +9

    They didn't serve society by being in prison. They served society by sharing the facts. Society failed them by not protecting them.

  • @jonnyrawson
    @jonnyrawson Рік тому +4

    Amazing lady. Wow!

  • @notyourneighbourhoodspiderman
    @notyourneighbourhoodspiderman Рік тому +44

    We need a movie based on her life story

  • @madhav5352
    @madhav5352 Рік тому +3

    Incredible 🖤

  • @giselleincognito
    @giselleincognito 6 місяців тому +3

    such a calm voice

  • @holly8132
    @holly8132 Рік тому +13

    Fascinating and eloquent lady x

  • @Meld61
    @Meld61 Місяць тому +2

    Very Brave woman .

  • @Kristenoyinbo
    @Kristenoyinbo Місяць тому +3

    This woman is incredible

  • @michaelbarry2199
    @michaelbarry2199 Рік тому +3

    Bless you. Thank you for following your conscience and for being so brave.

  • @findingnadinyo369
    @findingnadinyo369 Рік тому +5

    What a heroine! A woman warrior … the truth always comes out and these pioneers and Voortrekkers of justice and truth will go down in history for their courage and commitment

  • @Lc-ju5lx
    @Lc-ju5lx 8 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting to have a small insight into the secret service.

  • @samkelojordan3832
    @samkelojordan3832 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @JaniceHorner-oo4vl
    @JaniceHorner-oo4vl Рік тому +4

    Wow what a story! You see movies on the telly and read books and never realise just what the reality is for the real spies. Very intelligent lady.

  • @honeybadger811
    @honeybadger811 Рік тому +4

    LEGEND.

  • @user-ph1fu2us5g
    @user-ph1fu2us5g Місяць тому +2

    Some years ago in Sweden an investigative journalist told to a friend of mine that this crime was carried out by a senior homosexual MI5 agent who was jealous and sad because Gareth had requested his transfer back to GCHQ. This agent was the one who bought all the dresses and wigs for Gareth. This agent was also extremely worried that Gareth would expose him as homosexual.

    • @adam.maqavoy
      @adam.maqavoy Місяць тому

      I'd not share that story (with the public), Why?
      *NDA - Contracts* Just one of many reasons..