Also missing from [gcode_macro BED_MESH_CALIBRATE] {% set mesh_calibrate_temp = printer['gcode_macro _global_var'].bed_mesh_calibrate_target_temp|int if printer.heater_bed.target
Thanks, Gergő, for the help. I was one of the victims you mentioned :)) My maximum volumetric speed was 17m3/s, and the nozzle temperature was 240/235 when the problem occurred. I was using Orca Slicer and Jayo PETG filament, which is made by Sunlu. Levi Kovács
changing the toolhead for a dragon burner or even an afterburner, I think, is better than continuing using the stock one form Sovol: We can have higher temps, flow rates, speeds and acc. but also the possibility to continuing using our V6 nozzles, specially hardened ones.
Thanks for all the work you've put into these SV08 videos, Gergo. I'm struggling a bit with my new printer manifesting in problems with print quality. I've yet to walk through your "19 things" video though, so I'm not going to start asking questions until I've done that. I can say that one thing anyone can do to up their SV08 game is to buy the BTT 5" touch screen replacement and plug it in. I couldn't get my wifi.cfg to connect and the BTT made that problem go away. So inexpensive and works out of the box. Add Nadir's mount and you're good to go.
Thanks for the recommendation. I got used to the mini-screen and was able to connect to wifi, but I am too getting touch screen options. When I do, I will make videos of them!
Since last week I have put three kilograms of Eryone black PETG through my SV08. The SV08 config for PETG is 85C for the bed, which in retrospect seems high. I know it didn't play well with the Sovol textured PETG build plate which I've already had to flip. I've been using gluestick on the smooth side and that seems to work well enough at 85C. Going to have to play with the settings I think if I ever slow down long enough to tinker. Anyway, no issues with the nozzle so far.
I don’t feel like I’ve posted excessively. I’ve had three failures resulting in the loss of three hotends, three build plates, a heated bed and the tool homing area at the back of the bed. It has been almost two months since I received the printer, and today it appears my “fixed” nozzles and the latest print bed replacement are out for delivery.
Sorry if it came across like that. What I meant is that it's completely understandable for all of you to bring this serious issue to the attention of the community!
You did not post excessively. Nothing wrong with documenting a problem. (and that's a lame excuse for an apology - the comment in the video was uncalled for)
@@Magin68 "understandably posted excessively" is a contradiction stemming from an imperfect mastery of English that I see a lot working with very smart people from various parts of the world on a daily basis. In this instance, Gergo is using excessively when he means "a lot." You hear it as "too much." A little charity goes a long way. Gergo is so self-evidently a sweetheart that assuming bad intent of any sort is unwarranted.
You didn't post too much at all, you did fine. Multiple people on the discord are having this issue now as well. It's a shame to see those scratched build plates and broken nozzles and people have to wait a long time for replacements.
Hey Nadir!! But the stock macros always set 65°C even if heated higher. It is good to have a default temp (so they aren't done cold) but if the bed is already heated, they should not change the target temp. Have you dared to print PETG? Or you are switching the whole toolhead anyway?
Oh, loved the video. Thanks for sharing, I did not know few of the things. How can Sovol do so bad job with all the macros it is so hard for me to believe that. From the start of this printer life it has so many stuff messed up, but messing M104 and M140... Cmon we've all done it in the past I suppose but for a company to do that is ... pfff mindblowing to me To be honest I am kind of scared to run mine when i receive it. With all the issues in the group (not only nozzle) I am getting really confused about this machine
Yes, their software people are not the strongest, but this is where the community can easily make up for these. All files being open source (and avaialble on GitHub) we could even add pull requests. As for this specific mistake, it's basically harmless, as this branch of the code seldom gets executed (only if the bed is more than 5°C hotter than the target temp - and unlikely scenario) and even if it runs, it will just break with an error, as almost any nozzle target temp is higher than the max allowed for bed (it will surely not try to heat to that, Klipper has safeguards in this regards). Final thought: as a dislexic person myself, I have always found it ufortunate G-code designers made the bed / extruder commands so similar in appearance, just two digits switched. M109 vs M190 and M104 vs M140
I have the same problems with the nozzle on PETG/PCTG. With all my printers I print PETG at 200mm/s at 275°C without any problems and with perfect results, only the SV08 has problems. At what speed do you print PETG?
@@gerGoPrint3D My print bed base was melted, so first they sent me a bed without a sticker (and I had to destroy the factory one removing it) and then an entire replacement bed/frame/sticker. I’m glad to hear they can ship the bed stickers separately now.
and another sovol with quality controll issues on parts . like many had on sv07 me included....sure they provide spare parts for free but i want a working machine when i buy a new one sold my sovol bought a bambu xD
I am afraid if they put the ours of testing and expertize in design similar to Bambu, they would have to ask for Bambu prices. Personally I couldn't afford to pay Bambu prices, I rather fix these issues.
it loads filament at 250 and i dont think mine has the nozzle that have had the issues of what others are having with petg. I mean the petg i use prints at 230, I dont know why people call petg high temp. There are pla that print at 230
Honestly, with the increasing number of incidents, they should proactively replace all suspect nozzles. 2 per printer and also all nozzlekits they shipped. To me, this looks kind of salami tactics... (and yes, i have contacted them and they ship the replacements. Which is appropriate service.)
Thanks! You might be slightly overextruding, or it could be due to stringing. PETG needs drying → ua-cam.com/video/uSwuViHmJng/v-deo.html and tune retraction + flow rate for each PETG brand you use → ua-cam.com/video/LcRi2r1j7KE/v-deo.html
We don't need to worry about speed so much when you are using Orca slicer. Just set the Max Volumetric speed as calibrated here: ua-cam.com/video/Yva6pBgEr5M/v-deo.html and the slicer will automatically control the speeds.
Really??? I'll have to try this! We need hot bed because of thermal shrinkage too, maybe that's the reason, smaller delta between printing temp and heated bed than printing temp and room temp. Just thinking aloud...
@@gerGoPrint3D easy way to test is set "variable_bed_mesh_calibrate_target_temp: 0" in Printer.cfg and redo Home\qgl then print at 0 bed. Pla sticks even better. Brim is your glue! 5mm - 10 mm ! a must or it warps
The stock software on the SV07 Plus doesn't do gantry leveling or mesh before every print, so it is up to you how you heat the bed before you do these manually. I am not using the SV07 Plus with the stock settings however, as I installed Christian Vick's Klipper Printer Additions, which take care of all of these and more!!! Watch how to install and profit → ua-cam.com/video/R1-VU01-9Es/v-deo.html
As I commented just yet you can get Bambu Hot ends for V6 nozzles and you'll find a adapter print on printables to mount it to the toolhead of the SV08, if that's a possible solution. I don't think Sovol will alternate their product.
hello. i follow the changes that you advise.. but.. orcaslicer is the same as you indicate. in the macros i did the same.. when start a print.. the machine, heats to the temps of PET-G, makes homing, quad_guantry, clean nozzle, here drops temps of nozzle 130ºC and bed to 65ºC, probe pressure, Z0 and BED_MESH_CALIBRATE ADAPTIVE=1, goes to X0Y0 starts to heat to PET-G temps and prints... i don't now if is the correct but on the macro: [gcode_macro _CALIBRATION_ZOFFSET] gcode: #M140 S65 (comment this line) (don't now if is like this or if can use a command) i comment this line and the temp of the bed doesn't drop again to 65ºC
Check my next video where I show you how to have pre-print calibrations done at other than 65°C. A few tiny changes to macro.cfg: ua-cam.com/video/Yva6pBgEr5M/v-deo.html
@@gerGoPrint3D I follow you video.. a few times to see if everything was correct.. but when starts the mesh calibrate drops to 65 like in the [gcode_macro_calibration_zoffset]
I just received the set of new batch nozzles... On monday, i mailed their support about my order of the enclosure and a set of nozzles i placed 6 weeks ago, in which i wanted to know whats going on, if the nozzle issue causing the order beeing stuck. First person wrote the covers were out of stock, and there had been any nozzle issues at all. Some hours later iwas told in a second mail from another person both are shipped right before. Enclosure arrived on wednesday, nozzles came today on saturday due to a crooked address label, could happen to the best packers. Anyway, the new nozzles are bare soft copper, no coating at all, as shown on the updated product side! I wonder how long they gonna last
@@gerGoPrint3D They gonna have another issue, the copper alloy they used is easily scratchable by brass nozzle, they wont last long! Anyway, i first have to rewire some cables. I just installed the enclosure yesterday. I knew before the cables were really short, now i know they were too short, even without using the dran chain. First batch printer😩
@@t3cker254 Yes, I hope they'll have some hardened nozzle available too. Otherwise we can upgrade the toolhead to one of the community designed ones which use different, more standard nozzles.
I just saw an add for the SV08 on Facebook with the heading “Pre-assembled Voron 2.4: Print Bigger, Pay Less”. This ad is incorrect and really disrespectful to the Voron project and community. I have watched a lot of your videos because you are doing in depth coverage of the SV08 and I am thinking of buying one. But this behavior really bothers me. It’s making me reconsider my purchase plans. I hope you can reach out to Sovol and help them understand that this is not acceptable. All they had to say is “Pre-assembled Voron Inspired Printer-Print Bigger, Pay Less”. Then they wouldn’t be deceptively camping on Voron’s trademark.
Yes, I don't understand why they try to ride the Voron train, when this printer is good on its own. I agree they should acknowledge the Voron background and give credit where credit is due, but for some reason they are trying to appeal to people looking to get a Voron printer, which are most probably not the best target.
@@gerGoPrint3D they are now featuring your videos in these ads. I'd post a screenshot but UA-cam comments don't support that (which is probably for the best). Thanks for your hard work. I really appreciate the fact that you aren't another "I review this printer once and you'll never see it again" channel. Which I know takes a lot of extra work on your part.
So for those of us that have been called out by name and have our videos in here, can we get some of the ad revenue from this video so we can upgrade our printers?
Absolutely! The video already made $0.78 in ad revenue in the first 12 hours! To share your proportional dividend based on your video clip's length relative to the entire video, please send your PayPal. I am not sure what printer upgrade $0.03 will get you 😜 On a more serious note: we all appreciate your contribution to the user community. Documenting your experience is invaluable, and together we can make the best of these printers!
Also missing from [gcode_macro BED_MESH_CALIBRATE]
{% set mesh_calibrate_temp = printer['gcode_macro _global_var'].bed_mesh_calibrate_target_temp|int if printer.heater_bed.target
Thank you for posting the condition that needs to be added to 4 macros. I pinned your comment!
Thanks, Gergő, for the help. I was one of the victims you mentioned :)) My maximum volumetric speed was 17m3/s, and the nozzle temperature was 240/235 when the problem occurred. I was using Orca Slicer and Jayo PETG filament, which is made by Sunlu.
Levi Kovács
Same for me :(
changing the toolhead for a dragon burner or even an afterburner, I think, is better than continuing using the stock one form Sovol: We can have higher temps, flow rates, speeds and acc. but also the possibility to continuing using our V6 nozzles, specially hardened ones.
Yes, that's probably the best route to take!
Thanks for all the work you've put into these SV08 videos, Gergo. I'm struggling a bit with my new printer manifesting in problems with print quality. I've yet to walk through your "19 things" video though, so I'm not going to start asking questions until I've done that. I can say that one thing anyone can do to up their SV08 game is to buy the BTT 5" touch screen replacement and plug it in. I couldn't get my wifi.cfg to connect and the BTT made that problem go away. So inexpensive and works out of the box. Add Nadir's mount and you're good to go.
Thanks for the recommendation. I got used to the mini-screen and was able to connect to wifi, but I am too getting touch screen options. When I do, I will make videos of them!
Very important video! Thanks for all this knowledge! My enclosure just came in today. I’m about to go print the riser.
I hope it goes well! Please share your experience with us!
Mine arrive Monday ;-) will print riser too in PETG.
@@ptitbass Congrats!
Since last week I have put three kilograms of Eryone black PETG through my SV08. The SV08 config for PETG is 85C for the bed, which in retrospect seems high. I know it didn't play well with the Sovol textured PETG build plate which I've already had to flip. I've been using gluestick on the smooth side and that seems to work well enough at 85C. Going to have to play with the settings I think if I ever slow down long enough to tinker. Anyway, no issues with the nozzle so far.
I don’t feel like I’ve posted excessively. I’ve had three failures resulting in the loss of three hotends, three build plates, a heated bed and the tool homing area at the back of the bed. It has been almost two months since I received the printer, and today it appears my “fixed” nozzles and the latest print bed replacement are out for delivery.
Sorry if it came across like that. What I meant is that it's completely understandable for all of you to bring this serious issue to the attention of the community!
You did not post excessively. Nothing wrong with documenting a problem. (and that's a lame excuse for an apology - the comment in the video was uncalled for)
@@Magin68 "understandably posted excessively" is a contradiction stemming from an imperfect mastery of English that I see a lot working with very smart people from various parts of the world on a daily basis. In this instance, Gergo is using excessively when he means "a lot." You hear it as "too much." A little charity goes a long way. Gergo is so self-evidently a sweetheart that assuming bad intent of any sort is unwarranted.
You know what pisses me off, most likely they had this issue at the factory and yet they just push them out onto the market....
You didn't post too much at all, you did fine. Multiple people on the discord are having this issue now as well. It's a shame to see those scratched build plates and broken nozzles and people have to wait a long time for replacements.
It is a great that on the you changed the macros. I have set mine. To first heat the bed and after home qgl and the print start macro
Hey Nadir!! But the stock macros always set 65°C even if heated higher. It is good to have a default temp (so they aren't done cold) but if the bed is already heated, they should not change the target temp.
Have you dared to print PETG? Or you are switching the whole toolhead anyway?
@@gerGoPrint3D i use klicky. I have diferent macros ;)
Thanks
I love my Qidi Q1 Pro, its an awesome printer for the $$$$$
oh my gawd my comment made it on the video!! I'm famous!
Thank you for your contribution. I did my best to provide a little overview of the issue, giving credits to everyone's content.
Oh, loved the video.
Thanks for sharing, I did not know few of the things.
How can Sovol do so bad job with all the macros it is so hard for me to believe that. From the start of this printer life it has so many stuff messed up, but messing M104 and M140... Cmon we've all done it in the past I suppose but for a company to do that is ... pfff mindblowing to me
To be honest I am kind of scared to run mine when i receive it. With all the issues in the group (not only nozzle) I am getting really confused about this machine
Yes, their software people are not the strongest, but this is where the community can easily make up for these. All files being open source (and avaialble on GitHub) we could even add pull requests.
As for this specific mistake, it's basically harmless, as this branch of the code seldom gets executed (only if the bed is more than 5°C hotter than the target temp - and unlikely scenario) and even if it runs, it will just break with an error, as almost any nozzle target temp is higher than the max allowed for bed (it will surely not try to heat to that, Klipper has safeguards in this regards).
Final thought: as a dislexic person myself, I have always found it ufortunate G-code designers made the bed / extruder commands so similar in appearance, just two digits switched. M109 vs M190 and M104 vs M140
I have the same problems with the nozzle on PETG/PCTG. With all my printers I print PETG at 200mm/s at 275°C without any problems and with perfect results, only the SV08 has problems.
At what speed do you print PETG?
theyre sending me new nozzles, a new magnetic sticker,and a new build plate lol. i just wanted a transparent petg fidget toy lol
This printer should be a PETG champion. They received a bad batch of nozzles. I hope we are past this hiccup. Even the magnetic sticker got damaged???
@@gerGoPrint3D My print bed base was melted, so first they sent me a bed without a sticker (and I had to destroy the factory one removing it) and then an entire replacement bed/frame/sticker. I’m glad to hear they can ship the bed stickers separately now.
thank u for the info
nice tips!!
Great video! Thank for your insights.
and another sovol with quality controll issues on parts . like many had on sv07 me included....sure they provide spare parts for free but i want a working machine when i buy a new one
sold my sovol bought a bambu xD
I am afraid if they put the ours of testing and expertize in design similar to Bambu, they would have to ask for Bambu prices. Personally I couldn't afford to pay Bambu prices, I rather fix these issues.
it loads filament at 250 and i dont think mine has the nozzle that have had the issues of what others are having with petg. I mean the petg i use prints at 230, I dont know why people call petg high temp. There are pla that print at 230
You have a point there regarding PETG not being "high-temp", though in general it is printed 10-20°C higher than most PLA.
On the second day printing PETG, it happened to me today. Nozzle dropped. Printer was delivered two weeks ago.
Contact Sovol, they send you replacemnts. Now they officially send nozzle to anyone who asks, even before they fail.
Honestly, with the increasing number of incidents, they should proactively replace all suspect nozzles. 2 per printer and also all nozzlekits they shipped. To me, this looks kind of salami tactics... (and yes, i have contacted them and they ship the replacements. Which is appropriate service.)
Hello Gergo, nice video. Do you have any tips on preventing PETG buildup on the nozzle
Thanks! You might be slightly overextruding, or it could be due to stringing. PETG needs drying → ua-cam.com/video/uSwuViHmJng/v-deo.html and tune retraction + flow rate for each PETG brand you use → ua-cam.com/video/LcRi2r1j7KE/v-deo.html
@@gerGoPrint3D thanks I'll retune everything tonight
How does it print flexible filament? Good video thanks
Haven't really tested yet. Will do.
Do you make any changes to the speed at which you print PETG?
We don't need to worry about speed so much when you are using Orca slicer. Just set the Max Volumetric speed as calibrated here: ua-cam.com/video/Yva6pBgEr5M/v-deo.html and the slicer will automatically control the speeds.
Why do people not print PETG with a cold bed, on a PEI sheet (which the SV08 comes with )
It sticks quite well.
Really??? I'll have to try this! We need hot bed because of thermal shrinkage too, maybe that's the reason, smaller delta between printing temp and heated bed than printing temp and room temp. Just thinking aloud...
@@gerGoPrint3D easy way to test is set "variable_bed_mesh_calibrate_target_temp: 0" in Printer.cfg and redo Home\qgl then print at 0 bed. Pla sticks even better.
Brim is your glue! 5mm - 10 mm ! a must or it warps
great video. These discoveries of Sovol's misconceptions, in configuration files and or macros, also apply to SV07 Plus?
The stock software on the SV07 Plus doesn't do gantry leveling or mesh before every print, so it is up to you how you heat the bed before you do these manually. I am not using the SV07 Plus with the stock settings however, as I installed Christian Vick's Klipper Printer Additions, which take care of all of these and more!!! Watch how to install and profit → ua-cam.com/video/R1-VU01-9Es/v-deo.html
is there going to be a sv08 nozzle with the changeable v6 nozzle so i can use cht nozzle on it
As I commented just yet you can get Bambu Hot ends for V6 nozzles and you'll find a adapter print on printables to mount it to the toolhead of the SV08, if that's a possible solution.
I don't think Sovol will alternate their product.
wait does the heater and thermistor fit the bambu hotend
As far as I know you need to re-crimp the connectors. But in my mind that is no big deal considering all those possibilities!
hello.
i follow the changes that you advise..
but..
orcaslicer is the same as you indicate. in the macros i did the same..
when start a print..
the machine, heats to the temps of PET-G,
makes homing, quad_guantry, clean nozzle, here drops temps of nozzle 130ºC and bed to 65ºC,
probe pressure, Z0 and BED_MESH_CALIBRATE ADAPTIVE=1, goes to X0Y0 starts to heat to PET-G temps and prints...
i don't now if is the correct but on the macro:
[gcode_macro _CALIBRATION_ZOFFSET]
gcode:
#M140 S65 (comment this line) (don't now if is like this or if can use a command)
i comment this line and the temp of the bed doesn't drop again to 65ºC
Check my next video where I show you how to have pre-print calibrations done at other than 65°C. A few tiny changes to macro.cfg: ua-cam.com/video/Yva6pBgEr5M/v-deo.html
@@gerGoPrint3D I follow you video.. a few times to see if everything was correct.. but when starts the mesh calibrate drops to 65 like in the
[gcode_macro_calibration_zoffset]
I just received the set of new batch nozzles... On monday, i mailed their support about my order of the enclosure and a set of nozzles i placed 6 weeks ago, in which i wanted to know whats going on, if the nozzle issue causing the order beeing stuck. First person wrote the covers were out of stock, and there had been any nozzle issues at all. Some hours later iwas told in a second mail from another person both are shipped right before. Enclosure arrived on wednesday, nozzles came today on saturday due to a crooked address label, could happen to the best packers.
Anyway, the new nozzles are bare soft copper, no coating at all, as shown on the updated product side! I wonder how long they gonna last
But hopefully these are from a new batch of nozzles, not having this issue.
@@gerGoPrint3D They gonna have another issue, the copper alloy they used is easily scratchable by brass nozzle, they wont last long!
Anyway, i first have to rewire some cables. I just installed the enclosure yesterday. I knew before the cables were really short, now i know they were too short, even without using the dran chain. First batch printer😩
@@t3cker254 Yes, I hope they'll have some hardened nozzle available too. Otherwise we can upgrade the toolhead to one of the community designed ones which use different, more standard nozzles.
Thanks =)
I just saw an add for the SV08 on Facebook with the heading “Pre-assembled Voron 2.4: Print Bigger, Pay Less”.
This ad is incorrect and really disrespectful to the Voron project and community. I have watched a lot of your videos because you are doing in depth coverage of the SV08 and I am thinking of buying one.
But this behavior really bothers me. It’s making me reconsider my purchase plans.
I hope you can reach out to Sovol and help them understand that this is not acceptable. All they had to say is “Pre-assembled Voron Inspired Printer-Print Bigger, Pay Less”. Then they wouldn’t be deceptively camping on Voron’s trademark.
Yes, I don't understand why they try to ride the Voron train, when this printer is good on its own. I agree they should acknowledge the Voron background and give credit where credit is due, but for some reason they are trying to appeal to people looking to get a Voron printer, which are most probably not the best target.
@@gerGoPrint3D they are now featuring your videos in these ads.
I'd post a screenshot but UA-cam comments don't support that (which is probably for the best).
Thanks for your hard work. I really appreciate the fact that you aren't another "I review this printer once and you'll never see it again" channel. Which I know takes a lot of extra work on your part.
@@gerGoPrint3D they’ve changed their Facebook ads.
So for those of us that have been called out by name and have our videos in here, can we get some of the ad revenue from this video so we can upgrade our printers?
Absolutely! The video already made $0.78 in ad revenue in the first 12 hours! To share your proportional dividend based on your video clip's length relative to the entire video, please send your PayPal. I am not sure what printer upgrade $0.03 will get you 😜 On a more serious note: we all appreciate your contribution to the user community. Documenting your experience is invaluable, and together we can make the best of these printers!