I got to the end of the video and was like "Wait, that's it? What about the tool changer?", then I noticed the "Part 1" at the end of the title... Lol. Looking forward to the next part
Same here.... Saw the titel on my mobile and instantly added to my "watch later" list. On my moblie "Part 1" was not existent :-D Hope we don't have to wait verly long.
Sovol is currently my favorite budget printer manufacturer. They absolutely let some stinkers make it off the production line and out the door from time to time, they really could have charged an extra $100 for the SV08 and shored up a few of the cheaper design choices, and their own customer support staff isn't always that great. But they do have some really crafty engineers that have a true talent for following the business philosophy started by Creality many years ago: 85% of the experience of the premium printer we're cloning for 30% of the price. I've been really happy with my SV06 Plus, and one thing holding me back from being more excited about the SV08 is my desire to print with multiple colors and materials without using a wasteful single-extruder setup. If you can successfully turn an SV08 into a toolchanger printer for a couple hundred bucks and some elbow grease, that might be enough to divert my attention away from the Vivedino Marathon. Very interested in seeing how things go in part 2!
As a Marathon owner I can say it doesn't disappoint. Good build volume, speed, quality components, runs on Mainsail/Klipper, and having the designer in the Discord server personally helping owners and providing useful upgrades like integrating the Ember Prototypes CXC using kTAMV is amazing. With that said, I'm still excited to see where this series goes in accomplishing multiple toolheads on the SV08. If successful this might be my next printer (even with already owning 3x X1Cs with 6x AMS units).
Interesting idea to use actual SV08 toolheads! My plan was to recreate the stealthchanger mod with dragonburner toolheads, but this looks more interesting. Best of luck!
Stuff is happening but I'm stuck waiting for parts in the mail. I already have the firmware talking to multiple toolheads happily. Once I have parts the physical side can be manufactured.
@@TeachingTech Excellent. I've been in the queue for ages for a RatRig V4, but I'm now eyeing off the Sovol and tool changer setup if it can be made to work. I pulled the trigger on ordering the Sovol so I'll have time to get to grips with it before embarking on the tool changer journey. Wanting to print support materials and 4 colour prints without the crazy waste and the extra speed a tool changer should bring.
I hate to be that guy, but how long until we get a part 2? I have a Sovol sv08 coming in the mail and I want to get it up and running with a tool changer and the 8 track AMS.
Biggest "awe shucks" of the day - "Thank you so much for watching, and until next time ..." such a cliff hanger! I'm now on 4 Sovol units and the SV08 is on my RADAR. If you get this stuff sussed out, I'll be jumping on it as a 5 head unit.
Your channel has been extremely helpfully to me over the past few years. I am very excited to see you picking up this project, as I started looking into the possibility of doing this as soon as the SV08 came across my radar. Thanks for all you have done and are doing! Looking forward to your upcoming videos.
I think you should definitely provide your CAD files even if it's not done yet. I bet this video inspired quite a few other SV08 owners to look into this and see what can be done. Giving them the files now would allow many more people to start working and innovating in parallel
Yeah, if he wanted help with testing, CAD or w/e, he didn't make it very easy. I didn't find any information in this video and the stealth changer github repo does not have any open Issue, PR, Branch, Fork or discussion that pertains to adding support for the sovol sv08.
When something is this early in development, sharing the CAD files would probably do more to frustrate than anything, I'm sure he will share the files as soon as he isn't in the 'iterating them every day' phase, and then they will be more useful for modding and feedback.
Probably wants to keep it under control so he can direct the project after completion. I think its completely reasonable because even when something is open it sucks to have your goals overrun.
This looks very promising! I switched from my SWX1 to SV08 and encountered your mentioned problems also. But that is a minor inconvenience when looking at the price. I was thinking about buying an ERCF v2 but was quite unsure due few videos on it... But if your toolchanger idea works, then oh boy... That would be overkill for this price! Thank you so much for your all your effort (for the SWX1 videos also)!
Can't wait to see how this turns out. I've been on the fence about buying the SV08, I've just been waiting to see if it's popular enough for people to start modding it, and what kinds of mods will be made. If you can get this printing with a tool changer that doesn't cost all of the money in my bank, then I'm all in!
@@smellslikeupdog80 I'm seriously thinking about the ERCF as well. I have a Railcore that I've converted to Klipper and I'm thinking about putting the ERCF on, just don't know if I'm ready to make space for it yet, my workspace is limited. 😁
Wow!! I have always designed and built my 3d printers myself from scratch. I loved doing that but it takes an insane amount of time to get to a finished product.. I was thinking about adding tool changing to my coreXY printer but realised that there was (ideally) not enough space for that and could better design a complete new printer 😆 My plan was to build the DAKSH tool changing mechanism (channel '3DUnplugged') so for the first time not entirely my own design, but a good and sturdy tool changer design is not to be underestimated. Unfortunately, finding time for complete new build is a bit of a thing for me right now, and then I see this 😍 This looks very promising!! After 10 years of 3D printing, maybe I'll actually buy my first 3d printer!? 😄 Looking forward to the tool changer upgrade video(s). For me, a heated chamber and a built in carbon filter is a must because I mainly print ABS and ASA, so that would be nice extra upgrades .. Thank you Michael for starting this project!! 🙏
Doing a toolchanger on the SV08 realy is a great project. Esp. using their original hotends. As CAN (or USB? I do not have my SV08 yet) is used, it should be even more financily interesting. The basic conversion to enable toolchangeing is quite cheap: The new PSU, the bay and the modification of the headholder (and the heads). As you barely need 5 tools all the time, you could modify 2 (or more) SV08 for toolchanging, but only buy 3 or 4 additional tools. Most of the time you might only need one or two tools, maybe three. So if you converted 2 SV08 and have 4 aditional tools, you could use both with 3 tools - or one with 5 tools and the other one with just one. A very flexible solution. Still, if you want multi colour, an Enraged Rabbit Carrot Fedder can be more useful and cost effective, as you can use much more colours. But it is not an this or that - you still can combine both. If you add an ERCF on tool 1, you could use f.e. 12 colours there, and still use the other tools for other materials (like TPU, wich can not be used on filament changers, or materials with other temperature). Also I still hope Prusa Slicer sometime will support different nozzle sizes in one print (as the XL was announced, they said they work on it). Imho a toolchanger just for multi colour is overkill. But for different materials and nozzle sizes it is definitly great. However, the main reason I have not ordered the Prusa XL was not the price - I had the MMU2 for the mk3 and I barely used it. The few multicolour prints I made in the past I always made with manual changes (labeling the bottom layers). Also I have one IDEX I barely used. Idex definitly is an alternative for toolchangers - if you combine an IDEX and one or two ERCF, you could do most things you can do on a toolchanger (plus Duplex and Mirror). The new VCore 4 IDEX could be an (more expensive) alternative for toolchangers, esp. if you want an even bigger bed (but the 500mm version might not fit throug normal doors after assembly). On the other hand, the main advantage of a toolchanger imho is using different nozzle sizes, and there is a lack of software support to do this. (yet). However, as I my hobby is definitly mor tinkering on 3d printers than to actually print, I definitly will do the toolchanger conversion for the SV08.
I am clearly sold on the Sovol SV06 and SV08. I have a SV06, and I would get a SV08 if I had the room and the money for it. Hopefully that may happen in the future. The assembly time is shockingly quick, and the print quality is very good, with some tuning. 2 caveats, however; 1. Sovol is subsided by a government with a name that starts with a C and ends with an a, but won't mention any names, for both manufacturing and shipping, so the have an advantage on pricing. 2. Sovol printers are made as low cost as possible, so it is a given that you will be doing some tinkering and printing of replacement/mod parts. As for the second point, the amount of tinkering and printing is very minimal, in comparison to printers built before 2023.
I've been using my SV08 for a few weeks now, I was one of the lucky ones to get the early bird pricing of $449, at that price it was a no-brainer. Sure there are a couple of initial quirks to work out, but it is well worth the price. I look forward to future videos in this series, a tool-changer for this printer would be a most EPIC upgrade!
just for the fan noise mod, 100% worth watching -- thankyou Micheal ( i ordered my SV08 just after the launch and the Australian delivery process is just about to start)
Awesome! I ordered a Sovol SV08 so I have a support for my Voron when I start doing the toolchanger. This gives me the opportunity to think which machine I will actually do it on!
That safety warning! I am like, "I'll just watch this video. I've been electrocuted. I'm not interested in risking that again." Thanks for another high quality video! Even when I don't plan to do what you show in a video, it's still fascinating, and useful to know. I'm hoping by the end of this series, you will get it working, and sovol will end up offering a premade version with the multiple tool heads based on what you designed. That is a product I'd be very interested in.
I was also planning on adapting either stealthchanger or tapchanger for my SV08 whenever mine actually shows up. Glad to see someone else taking this project on.
To lower cost further I envision a dead tool heads. By dead, no electronic wiring to dock. The receiver in the SV08 would have fixed extruder motor, fans, heaters and electronics controls. Dead tool heads would have extruder gears w/coupling, filament in path, heat break, heat bock without heater, air ducts, and wireless ID chip. Dead tool head would couple to extruder motor shaft. Nozzle heat would be done similar to Bambu A1, or with dropping into induction heater coil. Fans or CPAP cooling. Chip ID for configuration of temperature, and other filament related parameters. Docking may have facility for standby heating.
Excellent plan. I wonder if the moving gantry design is best for these though. A moving bed makes it easier to have filament purge. Also, heating could just be wired. It needs only 4 wires anyway and a bowden is required anyhow.
Ok, this is awesome! I'm looking forward to following this project. SV08 seemed ok, but I probably wasn't going to buy it. If this works out, and if it seems like something I'd also be able to do, I'm definitely buying it just to replicate this idea.
Having an SV08, you would have a much easier design process for a tool changer by switching out the weak point of the Sovol first, their tool head unit. Replace it with a Stealthburner or Galileo 2 and most of your work is already done with the Voron tool changer design.
I have an SV04 and a Bambu P1S but was really looking for an option like a tool changer. The Prusa max is just more than my budget can handle and I love this idea. I will be following closely and envision an SV08 somewhere in my future. Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks a lot! It's high time for innovation. Through your project, you will help the 3D printing world find an affordable alternative to a multifilament print. This stimulates. In addition, I would like to thank you for the technically good explanation. As a teacher, you are to the point and you don't diverge. You make me very curious what you are going to come up with. More so what the consequence of this will be. How much space this will take up, if I can apply this with mods to my K1. And so on and so forth. All in all, a relief to see something really new for serious do-it-yourselfers/professionals! Top!
This is awesome! I'd basically written off owning a multi-head printer anytime soon; both the Voron and XL are out of my budget. A modded SV08, however... Genius idea! I'd be even happier if Sovol started offering it as an upgrade.
A thoroughly excellent idea my friend. I am looking forward to the next video, but I bet Prusa is not.... I am still shocked you didn't send the XL back and get a refund, you must have really, really wanted a tool changer.
Cool idea. I was looking at the SV08 at launch but didn't pull the trigger. Had some issues with upgrading my SV06 plus and was down for a month while I worked my way through customer support and finally get the parts needed to get it back up and running. Not going through that again so am specking out a Voron 2.4 build with options for tool changer down the road.
Great idea and great video. I'll be following intently. Please don't make us wait too long for the next installment. I've been really wanting a tool changer and hoping/waiting for another manufacturer to come along and give the PrusaXL some much needed competition. If money was not an object (and it most certainly is!) I would have already bought the PrusaXL.
I'm pumped to watch this series! I was on the preorder, my SV08 ships this month. Thanks for all your hard work and incredible videos, I can't wait to see the progression of this project.
I've been watching this printer and your channel closely. As usual, thank you for the thoughtful mods. In the case of the SV08, I've seen this phenomenon before with companies that try to take DIY open source or open hardware and commoditize it. No one who understand the Open ecosystem would have any objections to this. But I'm not buying an SV08...yet, until they get their quality control back between the lines. As you've experienced with both this SV08 and even the Prusa XL: day one products usually stink, because they've been rushed to market with the paint still wet. When the SV08 hits the second phase of series production, I'm probably in. Because by then, either they will have actually achieved a market ready "Voron-Adjacent" or the community, via the Open Hardware and Software, will have made the product viable. I'd prefer Sovol fix their mess, but I've watched the Open Hardware and Software worlds for decades, and this is usually how it goes. Great work!
Thanx for this great idea video. I was looking at building my own Voron, but the cost is almost 3 times that of the Sovol, because of import duties. Even if I buy a kit from a local supplier. With Sovol SV08, it's become alot cheaper to own a Core XY printer. Just hoping I get a local supplier in my country soon.
Hi! So looking forward to part 2! Anyway. What is your take on the PETG controversy that has been brewing? What is your experience with PETG (if any)! Great job, keep it up and thank kyou!
The Prusa XL is an amazing machine, made in Prague. That kind of justifies the price, since everything is more expensive there than in China. If I had the money, I'd go for an XL, but I do have a soft spot for Prusa in general. The Sovol looks like a great Voron spinoff, and given the price, I will more likely buy one than an XL.
I ended up swapping my preorder of the xl to an mk4. This looks like an interesting way to get to get the multi filament type printing. I look forward to how the build goes. Printing tpu seals on complex shape asa electronics boxes or toys to make them water resistant and maybe waterproof is something I want to do.
Can't wait to see how far you go with this man are there definitely needs to be some competition in the tool change Market. My Hope Is that companies will see how easy it is to do this and start doing it really quickly driving down costs
This is awesome. Thank you for giving this a shot. Also thank your wife. I have an SV08 on pre-order. I have two sovol's right now. An SV05 and an SV07 Plus. Hardware wise they're pretty good machines. I find them to be the best bang for the buck hardware wise. Unfortunately like most of the other major 3D printer companies software is not optimized and they tend to be released a little early, before a lot of the bugs are worked out. I will be watching all your future videos on this. I wish you luck and I may actually start buying the components to assemble this myself. I'm pretty sure I already subscribed to your channel if not I will do so now. Good luck.
Lots of good points, but I'm impressed with my 5 head XL, it is a solid build like a tank. I will admit it had some very rough edges when first released, but as Prusa is known - they started making improvements and it has become so much better. The lack of a camera is a big weak point, but they have released a work around, that Chris Riley has a great video on.
Excellent start to what I'm sure will be a great series! I've been running my Ender 3 since late 2019, and I've been wanting something a little bigger and hopefully faster. It might not be for everybody, but the SV08 looks promising. I don't care about one-tap printing or the fancy aspects of the $2k+ printers. I like the paradigm of the Ender 3, and I think this is in the same spirit: lots of features, low price, open source, potentially a little janky, but nothing that can't be fixed with some upgrades. The CAD model of the Ender 3 has been great in designing and verifying upgrades, and I'm sure that was the case for you with the SV08. Looking forward to more videos on this!
This right here will set me down the path of getting an sv08 the price savings to build out a multi head tool changer even with some work will be well worth the money. Can't wait for the next video...
Looking forward to the comparison video of this vs the co-print system. And that fan mod was awesome, one of the things that was keeping me on the fence about buying one.
Certainly seems to be a promising start as a competitor to the Prusa XL. Looking forward to the follow-up and possibly investing in a SV08 Toolchanger.
Looking forward to this series. I was contemplating going stealth changer on my voron 350 2.4 a few weeks ago. Just going through the research/documentation at the moment to see what’s needed.
Regarding the Prusa I've owned two types of Prusa now, a mk3s and an xl. Both times I saw the release, saw the wait times, and the early adopters having issues, which all were fixed in the first half a year to a year after launch. By the time wait times drop to several weeks they usually iron out most issues, and both my mk3s and my XL have been amazing work horses I will always love my voron 2.4, I've done all the mods, klicky, tap, beacon, custom lighting and they will always have their place. But with the vorons there is always an aspect of tinkering, checking the first layer despite the probes being pretty great Meanwhile the Prusas just do their thing. Hadn't touched the mk3 i ages, but needed something in ASA while all vorons were down, and it just worked, even first layer was solid. Just today I finished a 5 color print on the XL where I decided to just fill the bed with several prints in different colors and one multi color print, and it just worked flawlessly. Always expect growing pains but then solid performance for years
I purchased a MK3 when it was mature, and it was a reliable workhorse. For the Mini and XL, I was an early adopter and had issues. I think I've learned my lesson if a future Prusa release interests me.
Looking forward to how this progresses and if it works in the end. I'm still sticking around with my Anycubic Mega-S, but it's starting to show its age, and lack of "modern" features like ABL, input shaping as well as its print volume start to annoy me... So far either a Voron 2.4 or 2-tool Prusa XL were on my list of possible successors, but the sourcing and building effort of the Voron and the price tag of the Prusa were holding me back. Not sure if the SV08 is worthy of becoming a 3rd choice since it looks a bit too janky and in need of excessive tinkering, the only really appealing factor is the low price.
Thank you very much for adding the electrical power disclaimer. It is greatly appreciated. PRO TIP: Never buy Version 1.0. (Or in Creality-speak, wait at least 8 months)
The more I see of this printer the more that I want it! I went from a CR-10s to the Creality K1. I'm missing the larger bed and was thinking about getting the K1 Max, but for the money this is looking like it's going to be a better printer! So excited for this project!
Oh man I'm excited for this! I'm still waiting for the delivery of my SV08, but this is exactly the kind of mod I want to try with it. Looking forward to future installments!
Very much looking forward to the next parts, since they might encourage me to mod my Voron to a toolchanger (it's not that different after all 😀). Love your clear explanations and style! Keep up the good work!
This thing is getting more attractive! Hope that a huge modding community will develop around the S08! I'll probably get one at black friday if there's a good sale
Hope you do individual filament sensors aligned with the toolheads so you can position filament dryers inline with each head. I have a Prusa XL and I'm pleased with the operation overall, but not being able to having filament in a dryer is a bit annoying. I'm pondering how to make that change with my Prusa. Seems like it should have been an obvious choice. And hopefully you'll make it so you can have 2, 3, 4, or 5 heads. I'm really happy with just two but 3 would be ideal for me. But Prusa only lets you do 1, 2, or 5. It's going to cost a lot to get the additional 3 heads, probably more that a 5 head version of this.
Really looking forward to this project - I've played around with the idea of building a Voron in the future but they've always been a bit out of my current price range and the build time isn't enticing. If this were to come to fruition, I would love to purchase one of these machines!
This is the printer I was waiting for. Open source, cheaper than a full voron 2.4 and doesn't require so much tinkering. I am quite fed up of it with my custom printer. Though wouldn't mind doing it for something actually worth it like a tool changer
I would like to see what the SV08 toolhead looks like with details such as what it comes with standard. Are the nozzles similar to E3D nozzles, Bambu Labs, or something else? Also, what it takes to swap out a 0.4 nozzle to 0.6 or vice versa. I know, it having multiple heads may mean you never need to change the nozzle size. But, eventually, there will be a clog or other failure requiring some work to be done on the hotend. All that said, I think it's great for consumers to have options, whether you self-source a Voron, buy a kit, or buy mostly or completely preassembled printers from manufacturers like Prusa, Sovol, BL, Creality, etc. Its good to have options and competition to both bring prices down but also bring reliability and consistency up.
Great video, can't wait for part 2! Modding reasonably priced decent printers to make them competitive with overpriced printers that have "only game in town" features [in this case multiple heads], brilliant!
I got to the end of the video and was like "Wait, that's it? What about the tool changer?", then I noticed the "Part 1" at the end of the title... Lol. Looking forward to the next part
you summed up all my thoughts
Same here.... Saw the titel on my mobile and instantly added to my "watch later" list. On my moblie "Part 1" was not existent :-D
Hope we don't have to wait verly long.
yeah no we need the tool changer work lol
still waiting...
yeah
Sovol is currently my favorite budget printer manufacturer. They absolutely let some stinkers make it off the production line and out the door from time to time, they really could have charged an extra $100 for the SV08 and shored up a few of the cheaper design choices, and their own customer support staff isn't always that great. But they do have some really crafty engineers that have a true talent for following the business philosophy started by Creality many years ago: 85% of the experience of the premium printer we're cloning for 30% of the price. I've been really happy with my SV06 Plus, and one thing holding me back from being more excited about the SV08 is my desire to print with multiple colors and materials without using a wasteful single-extruder setup.
If you can successfully turn an SV08 into a toolchanger printer for a couple hundred bucks and some elbow grease, that might be enough to divert my attention away from the Vivedino Marathon. Very interested in seeing how things go in part 2!
As a Marathon owner I can say it doesn't disappoint. Good build volume, speed, quality components, runs on Mainsail/Klipper, and having the designer in the Discord server personally helping owners and providing useful upgrades like integrating the Ember Prototypes CXC using kTAMV is amazing.
With that said, I'm still excited to see where this series goes in accomplishing multiple toolheads on the SV08. If successful this might be my next printer (even with already owning 3x X1Cs with 6x AMS units).
Interesting idea to use actual SV08 toolheads! My plan was to recreate the stealthchanger mod with dragonburner toolheads, but this looks more interesting. Best of luck!
Nathaniel and I have the Extrusion adapter already made for this.
Can't wait till I receive my sv08 I was going to try the 3d chameleon. Depending on how this turns out I might go this way.
@@chasedown26 I would try this first. the 3Dc is not the solution
Very nice budget method with minimal building required. Not bad!
This looks promising and a very stable alternative to my prusa xl . Maybe i should start a "Sovol SV08 upgrade series"
I don't think I have ever had more anticipation for a 'part 2' video to drop.
Stuff is happening but I'm stuck waiting for parts in the mail. I already have the firmware talking to multiple toolheads happily. Once I have parts the physical side can be manufactured.
@@TeachingTech Excellent. I've been in the queue for ages for a RatRig V4, but I'm now eyeing off the Sovol and tool changer setup if it can be made to work. I pulled the trigger on ordering the Sovol so I'll have time to get to grips with it before embarking on the tool changer journey. Wanting to print support materials and 4 colour prints without the crazy waste and the extra speed a tool changer should bring.
@@PearlSwirl-G Same here :)
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I hate to be that guy, but how long until we get a part 2? I have a Sovol sv08 coming in the mail and I want to get it up and running with a tool changer and the 8 track AMS.
Biggest "awe shucks" of the day - "Thank you so much for watching, and until next time ..." such a cliff hanger!
I'm now on 4 Sovol units and the SV08 is on my RADAR. If you get this stuff sussed out, I'll be jumping on it as a 5 head unit.
The part1 in the title wasn't enough to know it wasn't going to be finished 😂
Waiting to see your end result! Thanks for taking the SV08 on board as a challenge!
Your channel has been extremely helpfully to me over the past few years. I am very excited to see you picking up this project, as I started looking into the possibility of doing this as soon as the SV08 came across my radar.
Thanks for all you have done and are doing! Looking forward to your upcoming videos.
Thanks for the "Silence at idle". I really needed it!!!
I think you should definitely provide your CAD files even if it's not done yet. I bet this video inspired quite a few other SV08 owners to look into this and see what can be done. Giving them the files now would allow many more people to start working and innovating in parallel
Seconded
Yeah, if he wanted help with testing, CAD or w/e, he didn't make it very easy. I didn't find any information in this video and the stealth changer github repo does not have any open Issue, PR, Branch, Fork or discussion that pertains to adding support for the sovol sv08.
When something is this early in development, sharing the CAD files would probably do more to frustrate than anything, I'm sure he will share the files as soon as he isn't in the 'iterating them every day' phase, and then they will be more useful for modding and feedback.
Probably wants to keep it under control so he can direct the project after completion. I think its completely reasonable because even when something is open it sucks to have your goals overrun.
I’m on the edge of my seat! I’m really looking forward to seeing how the process for the tool change itself works out.
When do you plan to publish the part 2 , 3 , ... ?
I like my SV08 a lot. I'm excited to see how this turns out! Thanks for sharing.
This really makes me consider a sv08 even more, awesome work
This looks very promising!
I switched from my SWX1 to SV08 and encountered your mentioned problems also. But that is a minor inconvenience when looking at the price.
I was thinking about buying an ERCF v2 but was quite unsure due few videos on it...
But if your toolchanger idea works, then oh boy... That would be overkill for this price!
Thank you so much for your all your effort (for the SWX1 videos also)!
Cool project! And the quick fan mod is a great tip.
Can't wait to see how this turns out. I've been on the fence about buying the SV08, I've just been waiting to see if it's popular enough for people to start modding it, and what kinds of mods will be made. If you can get this printing with a tool changer that doesn't cost all of the money in my bank, then I'm all in!
Many of us sharing that same fence @oldsalty3d122!
same. Either toolhead swapping, or the ERCF
@@smellslikeupdog80 I'm seriously thinking about the ERCF as well. I have a Railcore that I've converted to Klipper and I'm thinking about putting the ERCF on, just don't know if I'm ready to make space for it yet, my workspace is limited. 😁
Not even 30 seconds in and you’re well deserving of the like and comment simply for including the safety warning. Big props on that!
Wow!! I have always designed and built my 3d printers myself from scratch. I loved doing that but it takes an insane amount of time to get to a finished product.. I was thinking about adding tool changing to my coreXY printer but realised that there was (ideally) not enough space for that and could better design a complete new printer 😆
My plan was to build the DAKSH tool changing mechanism (channel '3DUnplugged') so for the first time not entirely my own design, but a good and sturdy tool changer design is not to be underestimated.
Unfortunately, finding time for complete new build is a bit of a thing for me right now, and then I see this 😍
This looks very promising!! After 10 years of 3D printing, maybe I'll actually buy my first 3d printer!? 😄
Looking forward to the tool changer upgrade video(s). For me, a heated chamber and a built in carbon filter is a must because I mainly print ABS and ASA, so that would be nice extra upgrades ..
Thank you Michael for starting this project!! 🙏
Doing a toolchanger on the SV08 realy is a great project. Esp. using their original hotends. As CAN (or USB? I do not have my SV08 yet) is used, it should be even more financily interesting. The basic conversion to enable toolchangeing is quite cheap: The new PSU, the bay and the modification of the headholder (and the heads). As you barely need 5 tools all the time, you could modify 2 (or more) SV08 for toolchanging, but only buy 3 or 4 additional tools. Most of the time you might only need one or two tools, maybe three. So if you converted 2 SV08 and have 4 aditional tools, you could use both with 3 tools - or one with 5 tools and the other one with just one. A very flexible solution.
Still, if you want multi colour, an Enraged Rabbit Carrot Fedder can be more useful and cost effective, as you can use much more colours. But it is not an this or that - you still can combine both. If you add an ERCF on tool 1, you could use f.e. 12 colours there, and still use the other tools for other materials (like TPU, wich can not be used on filament changers, or materials with other temperature). Also I still hope Prusa Slicer sometime will support different nozzle sizes in one print (as the XL was announced, they said they work on it).
Imho a toolchanger just for multi colour is overkill. But for different materials and nozzle sizes it is definitly great.
However, the main reason I have not ordered the Prusa XL was not the price - I had the MMU2 for the mk3 and I barely used it. The few multicolour prints I made in the past I always made with manual changes (labeling the bottom layers). Also I have one IDEX I barely used.
Idex definitly is an alternative for toolchangers - if you combine an IDEX and one or two ERCF, you could do most things you can do on a toolchanger (plus Duplex and Mirror). The new VCore 4 IDEX could be an (more expensive) alternative for toolchangers, esp. if you want an even bigger bed (but the 500mm version might not fit throug normal doors after assembly).
On the other hand, the main advantage of a toolchanger imho is using different nozzle sizes, and there is a lack of software support to do this. (yet).
However, as I my hobby is definitly mor tinkering on 3d printers than to actually print, I definitly will do the toolchanger conversion for the SV08.
These videos makes me appreciate even more the fact that Prusa factory actually use their own machines and fixes the issues themselves.
I am clearly sold on the Sovol SV06 and SV08. I have a SV06, and I would get a SV08 if I had the room and the money for it. Hopefully that may happen in the future. The assembly time is shockingly quick, and the print quality is very good, with some tuning. 2 caveats, however; 1. Sovol is subsided by a government with a name that starts with a C and ends with an a, but won't mention any names, for both manufacturing and shipping, so the have an advantage on pricing. 2. Sovol printers are made as low cost as possible, so it is a given that you will be doing some tinkering and printing of replacement/mod parts. As for the second point, the amount of tinkering and printing is very minimal, in comparison to printers built before 2023.
I am extremely interested in this.
I can't wait to watch the rest of this series, really hoping this works out.
Looking forward to seeing you pull this off. I was planning to go this route but figured it over my head on the design side. Pulling for you.
I've been using my SV08 for a few weeks now, I was one of the lucky ones to get the early bird pricing of $449, at that price it was a no-brainer. Sure there are a couple of initial quirks to work out, but it is well worth the price. I look forward to future videos in this series, a tool-changer for this printer would be a most EPIC upgrade!
just for the fan noise mod, 100% worth watching -- thankyou Micheal ( i ordered my SV08 just after the launch and the Australian delivery process is just about to start)
Awesome! I ordered a Sovol SV08 so I have a support for my Voron when I start doing the toolchanger. This gives me the opportunity to think which machine I will actually do it on!
This is a great project! So excited for the next round of updates!
Love OpenSource. So much innovation so fast.
Good luck and good safety PSA!
That safety warning! I am like, "I'll just watch this video. I've been electrocuted. I'm not interested in risking that again."
Thanks for another high quality video! Even when I don't plan to do what you show in a video, it's still fascinating, and useful to know. I'm hoping by the end of this series, you will get it working, and sovol will end up offering a premade version with the multiple tool heads based on what you designed. That is a product I'd be very interested in.
Yikes. I hope you're okay dude
When is part 2 coming ?
I was also planning on adapting either stealthchanger or tapchanger for my SV08 whenever mine actually shows up. Glad to see someone else taking this project on.
To lower cost further I envision a dead tool heads. By dead, no electronic wiring to dock. The receiver in the SV08 would have fixed extruder motor, fans, heaters and electronics controls. Dead tool heads would have extruder gears w/coupling, filament in path, heat break, heat bock without heater, air ducts, and wireless ID chip. Dead tool head would couple to extruder motor shaft. Nozzle heat would be done similar to Bambu A1, or with dropping into induction heater coil. Fans or CPAP cooling. Chip ID for configuration of temperature, and other filament related parameters. Docking may have facility for standby heating.
Excellent plan. I wonder if the moving gantry design is best for these though. A moving bed makes it easier to have filament purge.
Also, heating could just be wired. It needs only 4 wires anyway and a bowden is required anyhow.
Ok, this is awesome! I'm looking forward to following this project. SV08 seemed ok, but I probably wasn't going to buy it. If this works out, and if it seems like something I'd also be able to do, I'm definitely buying it just to replicate this idea.
Having an SV08, you would have a much easier design process for a tool changer by switching out the weak point of the Sovol first, their tool head unit. Replace it with a Stealthburner or Galileo 2 and most of your work is already done with the Voron tool changer design.
I have an SV04 and a Bambu P1S but was really looking for an option like a tool changer. The Prusa max is just more than my budget can handle and I love this idea. I will be following closely and envision an SV08 somewhere in my future. Thanks for the great videos!
Great idea/subject and good alternative use of the SV08.
Def. going to follow this series😃😃
Thanks a lot!
It's high time for innovation. Through your project, you will help the 3D printing world find an affordable alternative to a multifilament print.
This stimulates. In addition, I would like to thank you for the technically good explanation.
As a teacher, you are to the point and you don't diverge.
You make me very curious what you are going to come up with.
More so what the consequence of this will be. How much space this will take up, if I can apply this with mods to my K1. And so on and so forth.
All in all, a relief to see something really new for serious do-it-yourselfers/professionals!
Top!
Thanks Micheal, looking forward to the series
This is awesome! I'd basically written off owning a multi-head printer anytime soon; both the Voron and XL are out of my budget. A modded SV08, however... Genius idea! I'd be even happier if Sovol started offering it as an upgrade.
CANT WAIT FOR PART 2. IF THIS IS A WORKABLE MOD IM BUYING AN SV08 IMMEDIATELY
A thoroughly excellent idea my friend. I am looking forward to the next video, but I bet Prusa is not.... I am still shocked you didn't send the XL back and get a refund, you must have really, really wanted a tool changer.
Cool idea. I was looking at the SV08 at launch but didn't pull the trigger. Had some issues with upgrading my SV06 plus and was down for a month while I worked my way through customer support and finally get the parts needed to get it back up and running. Not going through that again so am specking out a Voron 2.4 build with options for tool changer down the road.
Great idea and great video. I'll be following intently. Please don't make us wait too long for the next installment. I've been really wanting a tool changer and hoping/waiting for another manufacturer to come along and give the PrusaXL some much needed competition. If money was not an object (and it most certainly is!) I would have already bought the PrusaXL.
I'm pumped to watch this series! I was on the preorder, my SV08 ships this month. Thanks for all your hard work and incredible videos, I can't wait to see the progression of this project.
I've been watching this printer and your channel closely. As usual, thank you for the thoughtful mods. In the case of the SV08, I've seen this phenomenon before with companies that try to take DIY open source or open hardware and commoditize it. No one who understand the Open ecosystem would have any objections to this.
But I'm not buying an SV08...yet, until they get their quality control back between the lines. As you've experienced with both this SV08 and even the Prusa XL: day one products usually stink, because they've been rushed to market with the paint still wet. When the SV08 hits the second phase of series production, I'm probably in. Because by then, either they will have actually achieved a market ready "Voron-Adjacent" or the community, via the Open Hardware and Software, will have made the product viable. I'd prefer Sovol fix their mess, but I've watched the Open Hardware and Software worlds for decades, and this is usually how it goes. Great work!
Thanx for this great idea video. I was looking at building my own Voron, but the cost is almost 3 times that of the Sovol, because of import duties. Even if I buy a kit from a local supplier. With Sovol SV08, it's become alot cheaper to own a Core XY printer. Just hoping I get a local supplier in my country soon.
I'm new to 3D printing, but old to electronics and mechanics. Methinks this bloke knows his stuff.
Hi! So looking forward to part 2! Anyway. What is your take on the PETG controversy that has been brewing? What is your experience with PETG (if any)!
Great job, keep it up and thank kyou!
Please add part 1 to your title. Awesome video, left disappointed it finished without seeing a tool changer.
as a SV08 owner as my primary 3dprinter (went from ender3pro) can´t wait for next parts :)
Sovol as an OEM ticks all boxes, alas except a viable shipping solution to where i live. Great video, looking forward to see the build 👍
The Prusa XL is an amazing machine, made in Prague. That kind of justifies the price, since everything is more expensive there than in China. If I had the money, I'd go for an XL, but I do have a soft spot for Prusa in general. The Sovol looks like a great Voron spinoff, and given the price, I will more likely buy one than an XL.
I ended up swapping my preorder of the xl to an mk4. This looks like an interesting way to get to get the multi filament type printing. I look forward to how the build goes. Printing tpu seals on complex shape asa electronics boxes or toys to make them water resistant and maybe waterproof is something I want to do.
I loved the Power supply bracket still allowing the metal shield. Modding the shield would be a good idea to add more fans and quieter fans.
Can't wait to see how far you go with this man are there definitely needs to be some competition in the tool change Market. My Hope Is that companies will see how easy it is to do this and start doing it really quickly driving down costs
This is awesome. Thank you for giving this a shot. Also thank your wife. I have an SV08 on pre-order. I have two sovol's right now. An SV05 and an SV07 Plus. Hardware wise they're pretty good machines. I find them to be the best bang for the buck hardware wise. Unfortunately like most of the other major 3D printer companies software is not optimized and they tend to be released a little early, before a lot of the bugs are worked out. I will be watching all your future videos on this. I wish you luck and I may actually start buying the components to assemble this myself. I'm pretty sure I already subscribed to your channel if not I will do so now. Good luck.
i am just astonished about what you might achieve here! Great Work! Thanks a lot for your great videos!
Lots of good points, but I'm impressed with my 5 head XL, it is a solid build like a tank. I will admit it had some very rough edges when first released, but as Prusa is known - they started making improvements and it has become so much better. The lack of a camera is a big weak point, but they have released a work around, that Chris Riley has a great video on.
Excellent start to what I'm sure will be a great series! I've been running my Ender 3 since late 2019, and I've been wanting something a little bigger and hopefully faster. It might not be for everybody, but the SV08 looks promising. I don't care about one-tap printing or the fancy aspects of the $2k+ printers. I like the paradigm of the Ender 3, and I think this is in the same spirit: lots of features, low price, open source, potentially a little janky, but nothing that can't be fixed with some upgrades. The CAD model of the Ender 3 has been great in designing and verifying upgrades, and I'm sure that was the case for you with the SV08. Looking forward to more videos on this!
Very informative Michel . Thank you for your time.
sold. I'll be building as soon as my sv08 arrives
same here, but it appears sovol is too busy sending units for free for clout, than shipping actual, weeks old orders
@@seishin4real you're preaching to the choir, I ordered within 5 minutes of release. they say mid-June but I'm not believing it lol
@@Milkex (in australia, i got my sovol is shipping it here is a tracking number that wont yet track yesterday) i hopes it comes soon
This right here will set me down the path of getting an sv08 the price savings to build out a multi head tool changer even with some work will be well worth the money. Can't wait for the next video...
Looking forward to the comparison video of this vs the co-print system. And that fan mod was awesome, one of the things that was keeping me on the fence about buying one.
Great tip about the fan suspect this will end up being mod number 1 When mine arrives
Will definitely be looking forward to the rest of this series
Great idea. Love to see the progress. Quite tempting approach 🙂
Certainly seems to be a promising start as a competitor to the Prusa XL. Looking forward to the follow-up and possibly investing in a SV08 Toolchanger.
Looking forward to this series. I was contemplating going stealth changer on my voron 350 2.4 a few weeks ago. Just going through the research/documentation at the moment to see what’s needed.
Regarding the Prusa
I've owned two types of Prusa now, a mk3s and an xl. Both times I saw the release, saw the wait times, and the early adopters having issues, which all were fixed in the first half a year to a year after launch. By the time wait times drop to several weeks they usually iron out most issues, and both my mk3s and my XL have been amazing work horses
I will always love my voron 2.4, I've done all the mods, klicky, tap, beacon, custom lighting and they will always have their place. But with the vorons there is always an aspect of tinkering, checking the first layer despite the probes being pretty great
Meanwhile the Prusas just do their thing. Hadn't touched the mk3 i ages, but needed something in ASA while all vorons were down, and it just worked, even first layer was solid. Just today I finished a 5 color print on the XL where I decided to just fill the bed with several prints in different colors and one multi color print, and it just worked flawlessly.
Always expect growing pains but then solid performance for years
I purchased a MK3 when it was mature, and it was a reliable workhorse. For the Mini and XL, I was an early adopter and had issues. I think I've learned my lesson if a future Prusa release interests me.
Looking forward to how this progresses and if it works in the end.
I'm still sticking around with my Anycubic Mega-S, but it's starting to show its age, and lack of "modern" features like ABL, input shaping as well as its print volume start to annoy me... So far either a Voron 2.4 or 2-tool Prusa XL were on my list of possible successors, but the sourcing and building effort of the Voron and the price tag of the Prusa were holding me back. Not sure if the SV08 is worthy of becoming a 3rd choice since it looks a bit too janky and in need of excessive tinkering, the only really appealing factor is the low price.
Thank you very much for adding the electrical power disclaimer. It is greatly appreciated.
PRO TIP: Never buy Version 1.0. (Or in Creality-speak, wait at least 8 months)
The question with Creality is do I wait for 4 months Creality to fix the problems or 5 months for the next model and then go back to step one.
Still waiting for my SV08 but that was just the idea i had to do with it. Grat job , 10x for sharing
The more I see of this printer the more that I want it! I went from a CR-10s to the Creality K1. I'm missing the larger bed and was thinking about getting the K1 Max, but for the money this is looking like it's going to be a better printer! So excited for this project!
very excited for this series!
Oh man I'm excited for this! I'm still waiting for the delivery of my SV08, but this is exactly the kind of mod I want to try with it. Looking forward to future installments!
Fantastic, great start. I'm sure Bamboo are watching quietly from the sidelines... 😂
Or their community blew themselves up trying to tinker lol.
Having received my SV08 last week I cant wait to see the second part of this :)
Very much looking forward to the next parts, since they might encourage me to mod my Voron to a toolchanger (it's not that different after all 😀). Love your clear explanations and style! Keep up the good work!
This thing is getting more attractive! Hope that a huge modding community will develop around the S08! I'll probably get one at black friday if there's a good sale
Genius. Why didn’t I think of this…. Instead of just destroying mine. lol.
Hope you do individual filament sensors aligned with the toolheads so you can position filament dryers inline with each head. I have a Prusa XL and I'm pleased with the operation overall, but not being able to having filament in a dryer is a bit annoying. I'm pondering how to make that change with my Prusa. Seems like it should have been an obvious choice.
And hopefully you'll make it so you can have 2, 3, 4, or 5 heads. I'm really happy with just two but 3 would be ideal for me. But Prusa only lets you do 1, 2, or 5. It's going to cost a lot to get the additional 3 heads, probably more that a 5 head version of this.
This is very interesting!! Looking forward to seeing the ending outcome.
Really interesting build, this seems like great value. Cannot wait for the next installment
Really looking forward to this project - I've played around with the idea of building a Voron in the future but they've always been a bit out of my current price range and the build time isn't enticing. If this were to come to fruition, I would love to purchase one of these machines!
Brilliant, cant wait for part 2, the beauty of open source
Very cool, and would love to watch the build process.. I still love tinkering with 3D printers.
This is super exciting I can't wait to see how it goes
I looked for a Part 2, guess it’s still a work in progress. Really hopes it works. For the price it sounds like a great Multi tool head.
This week!
This is the printer I was waiting for. Open source, cheaper than a full voron 2.4 and doesn't require so much tinkering. I am quite fed up of it with my custom printer.
Though wouldn't mind doing it for something actually worth it like a tool changer
Awesome review and great project! Can’t wait to see how the rest of it goes.
I would like to see what the SV08 toolhead looks like with details such as what it comes with standard. Are the nozzles similar to E3D nozzles, Bambu Labs, or something else? Also, what it takes to swap out a 0.4 nozzle to 0.6 or vice versa. I know, it having multiple heads may mean you never need to change the nozzle size. But, eventually, there will be a clog or other failure requiring some work to be done on the hotend.
All that said, I think it's great for consumers to have options, whether you self-source a Voron, buy a kit, or buy mostly or completely preassembled printers from manufacturers like Prusa, Sovol, BL, Creality, etc. Its good to have options and competition to both bring prices down but also bring reliability and consistency up.
Can’t wait for this build to be ready, i hope it works out so i can build one!!
Cool stuff! Looking forward to seeing this come along! Thanks for sharing the adventure!
Would love to see the mod completed. Nice work 👍
Great video, can't wait for part 2!
Modding reasonably priced decent printers to make them competitive with overpriced printers that have "only game in town" features [in this case multiple heads], brilliant!
Gotta say, looks like a great start. If this is possible, you will definitely have a winner here. Can't wait to see part 2. 😀
Great! This is exactly what I had hoped for: that the SV8 could be converted into a toolchanger or Idex.
Any updates on next video ready to order parts but want to see it work
Need that part 2 mate, sending my XL 5 back because it has not managed a clean multi-tool print in over 2 months of ownership.
Cool video. It will be interesting to see if this works. I bought a TronXY XS5A with a 360w power supply and same bed leveling setup as the Sovol.