I Upgraded the Sovol SV08 Till It Broke
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- In this video, I share how I “fixed” the Sovol SV08. Brought to you by Sovol. Check out the new Sovol SV08 at jle.vi/sv08
THIS is the Sovol SV08. It's Sovol's "continuation" of the Voron 2.4...
But unlike the Voron 2.4, it's designed to be mass-manufactured at scale and shipped almost entirely assembled. It also costs less than half as much as most Voron 2.4 kits.
But is it as easy to modify, customize, and upgrade as a Voron 2.4? Can I really install all of these cutting-edge upgrades, most of which literally aren't even on the market yet....? And will the printer actually work at the end of the video...? Or have I bitten off way more than I can chew.
Stick around till the end, and let's find out.
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00:47 Background
03:25 Fan Noise
04:45 Touch Screen
07:39 Build Plate
08:48 Low Profile / Vibration Dampening Feet
10:03 Z-Drift & Firmware
12:16 Upgraded Hot End
16:12 Upgraded Toolhead Board
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Thanks so much for watching, and I hope you guys aren't TOO disappointed that I didn't actually finish the project... Let me know if you'd like me to do a followup video...?
Please, please, please do a follow up video. Looking at anything you can provide on this printer. Eddy integration is my main current topic, plus the possibility to maybe add that Noctua vents that you were mentioning also.
I know you can do better in next video ;-) but OMG, borrow that sweet, sweet enraged rabbit carrot feeder from your Voron, and show us how to connect it to Sovol SV08. Eddy current probe is ok, but multi material printing will be golden.
it happens but like every movie that ends with a cliffhanger the eventual ending will be worth while. (PS Looking to use an Eddy on an upgraded SV05 I been modding using a BTT Pi4B and H2V2S extruder....BTT is legit getting my cash for gear!)
No thanks, this one was painful enough.
Bro its all about the journey. The big Takeaway is not that problems occurred and that solutions weren't instantly readily at hand in zero time and effort.
but rather you had the luxury of doing the craziest most amazing mods imaginable and its all 100% possible with a bit of patience and a bit more care. Its normal for an electronics noob to let the magic smoke out of a few things but its school fees and that's how you learn and improve.
There are 2 types of viewers. The ones who want everything polished and perfect. And the real hackers.
This video was raw and authentic. Stop apologizing just man up and do what you want. Its your channel. Own it.
You know the old adage: If it aint broken, fix it until it is.
This describes me so perfectly.
Very interesting video!
I'm glad to hear that Sovol were supportive of modding the device and look forward to more content like this
Really appreciate this video, and I would be really excited to see a second video in the series.
I would also be totally happy if you cut videos down to never taking more than 2 weeks of your time so that you end up making a series out of these videos that run really long.
Hoping to see more SV08 content in the future!
I wish that worked, but every time I do a series, the subsequent videos perform so poorly that it’s better to keep it to one. See my filament recycling series for example.
@@thenextlayer That's a shame, but I understand sometimes that's just how YT works.
If most people can't watch more than 5 mins of a video, how many of them are going to watch a string of videos.
Well, if you end up doing a follow up to this particular video you'll certainly have a view from me.
If it ain’t broke,
You’re not trying. 😂
On the one hand, thank you for all the input you gave to Sovol to help address early production bugs and your efforts to upgrade will certainly come in handy down the road. On the other hand however, I've been waiting almost three weeks and still haven't received a shipping notification, let alone the actual printer, so maybe if you don't distract Sovol engineers with optional upgrade questions they might be able to get some printers shipped, lol. But seriously, thank you for all the time and effort you've put into this and you're probably, maybe. most likely not responsible for any shipping delays, lol. Thank you for the excellent content. Stay safe!!
I’ll check with them on shipping dates for ya
@@thenextlayer I didn't get in time for the super early bird special so there's at least 800 people ahead of me, and if they have to go back and upgrade the machines they already had built, I'm not too surprised by the wait. I'm from the US, so impatience and instant gratification is a thing, lol. But I'd rather wait a little bit and get a more polished machine. Thanks again for the excellent content. Stay safe!!
Good luck with the new updates. Looking forward to next video.
Bro, whether it's 3 weeks or 3 months between videos - we're out here waiting for it and watching it! :D The more I see about this machine, the more I'm impressed with what they accomplished for the price and the 'consumerization' of the platform.
I am still waiting for SV08 to be delivered. I have seen so many mod and new one to me the hot end. Love you and keep it up.😍
Love you too, kid.
awesome video man! keep up the good work!
One of your best video series, looking forward to more like this. Perfect videos aren't necessary, particularly with singular printers in their incipiency like the SV08.
Love this kind of content! I've been on the fence about the SV08 but this has helped sway my decision towards investing in one. Keep doing what you're doing and take your time. Being a content creator is tough work, especially when you have a family and staff to feed. Looking forward to the followup!
Thanks man this comment cheered me up after the video kind of has been bombing
@thenextlayer absolutely! To be honest. I love that you kept the jank setup in the shots. It felt more authentic and is more than likely how 100% of us test our new toys until we confirm it's working to our desire. My ender 3 pro is a jumbled mess right now until I get it configured properly then I'll go back and redo the wiring to be more "polished" haha. It's just nice to see a professional content creator doing it too. Too often do we just get a cut of the finished project and not the nitty gritty goodness in between. As I said previously I love your content and am glad to see you uploading again. Patience is a virtue. Something every 3DPrinter enthusiast needs anyway.
Whoow that sounds like a big project, like for building a printer from scratch… Great insight on modding the SV08, thanks!
Great vid man. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks for the kind words … the video isn’t doing so well so I’m glad at least the people who watched it enjoyed it 😢
WOW! excellent work and thanks for making the video sharing your work too.
I'm especially inspired by the heatsink that you designed and printed in aluminium using PCBWay's services, what a time to be alive!
Right?
Loved the raw and RL truthful parts of the video. You have another subscriber.
Good video Jonathan. :) I'm going back and forth on if I should get the SV08 or the Flsun T1, but this video is pushing me in the SV08 direction. Lol. And if I do get the SV08, expect some upgrades from my end too! ;)
Gonna be a LOT more community support for the sv08 as people adapt Voron mods for it.
Thanks for the great video, and your brutal honesty. You remind me, of me. Can't wait for your next video to see how everything's working.
Can't wait to see the upcoming video on this topic. Its my first FDM 3D Printer and I would love to see some modifications and tips how to get it even better. Should arrive at my place in around 14 days.
it's a bit much for a first printer, but you'll have lots of fun ahead. I started with a Marlin/bare bones sv06 and it's been a great journey. have mine running klipper now w custom cooling fans.
Love the idea of creating a new hotend for revo! Surely theres enough of a user base to sell this! Or encourage sovol to pick it up as an addon part. I cant help but wondering if it would have been easier to swap the whole carriage out for a stealthburner as it already supports the mods you wanted to do (can mounting, sensor mounting, strain relief with glands etc. Great video ❤
Still waiting for Sovol to ship.. lol ordered it within the first 5 mins of it going live so I got it for super Early bird price + the summer sale. You showed something I am very very interested in and want to do, install a Revo hotend in it. Bookmarking this channel and subbing for that very reason.
That hot end surgery looks like something I would do, too. Function over form! 😁 Last I looked, I believe E3D has a Revo version that can utilize V6 nozzles directly, but it's been a while since I put the huge delta refit on hold while deciding to run said Revo or a Phaetus. I'd already printed out the effector for the Phaetus, buuuuut...
I think sovol has one more over. Can't wait to get one in a couple months. The price, performance and pro-consumer moves of making it open source has just won me over.
Why is evey youtuber using a LDO kit for a price comparison? Their kits are just way to expensive. Just use a Formbot kit for refrence instead.
Fair assessment
I would say the video still had a happy ending because "at the end of the day" you not only learned a lot, but you're sharing all the ups and downs with all of us so that we can learn from your mistakes and build on it. So what if it takes 2 or more videos to get through a project. It's about the journey and we're all here on your channel to watch your journey and learn with you. So release as often as you need to to support your family and business. No one's going anywhere just cause a video ended without a completed project. We got your back!
This is so reassuring man thanks!
I see you and your original title "I upgraded it until it broke" SoonerLater
I really don't mind that the thing wasn't finished by the end of the video, I always like seeing progress updates on projects that take a bit longer, and that's what I see this as. I'd definitely like to get one of those eddy scanners though; its speed, cost, and apparent accuracy make it seem like a no brainer
Changing the hotend is an extremly cool mod!
I'm still torn if I should replace my still-working, but definitely-dated CR10 with an sv08... the proprietary hotend and the bed (levelling) were the main downers; but you seem to have fixed at least the first one 😉
Still waiting on mine to ship...really looking forward to personalizing it
If you decide to do another video it would be amazing to see if you could do more in depth mods. Adding an ERCF for example and doing a versus between your voron and the sv08. See which is easier to mod or the differences to expect. It would be a big project for you but I think it would be great content!
Great content as always.
Much appreciated!
Nice work! I will include your hotend to the new toolhead i’m designing for the SV08
Btw since yesterday the dxf for the enclosure are free for all so you can order/cut yourself
Oh wow. Good call. And dude I’d LOVE if you designed a version of your tool head which will support the EBB36!!! Because as you see… uh… I need a rework. lol.
@@thenextlayer all my tools are based in the ebb36 ;)
Would be interesting to understand what differences Sovol introduced to Klipper and see if they can be merged into a copy of Klipper's repo easily.
Agreed. You can check on their GitHub. I don’t know anything about software
I love my sv08 for the money it has been great, I did get the super early bird price. I also have found that if I preheat the bed, home it and drop the print head down to 2mm from the bed and let it heat soak for a bit before printing I have had really good first layers so far. I would like to be able to use my diamond back nozzles on it or get a higher flow hotend as it has more than enough speed and size to take advantage of higher flow rates, but I am spoiled with my modified flsun super racer with a goliath hotend on it haha.
I feel like I'm going to love this video!
Keep them coming! The SV08 is really interesting to me but I wanted to know whether it allows for modding or not. What I would also really be interested in is AMS alternatives for the Sovol
Stay tuned…
Those whambam build plates. so good!
Indeed. Expensive but damn good.
Can't wait for the next one! That's part of the fun, figuring out the puzzle of parts and mods
Let’s see. So far the video is bombing… so maybe the next one will be a short ;)
I had a Voron 2.4 and sold it because it needs so many tweaks and maintenance. Despite that it was never reliable. The Sovol SV08 seems to inherit many of the Voron problems. This is a nice machine for hobbyists who like to work on the printer, not for people who just want to print 3d objects without to much hassle.
This is what I said when it was released. This is a Kilpper bases Ender. A decent printer with a bunch of upgrade potential
Love the video, I can't wait for my SV08 to be delivered. I would love to see a video on the XenoBurner from Nadir. Modular stealth burner tool head for the SV08. I will definitely be looking at that to upgrade my printer
Oh shit, I hadn't seen that, let me check that out!!!
Good Vid. After seeing all of that I'm just going to adapt an EVA and use the ebb. Probably going to run klicky and use the bed sensor to do an auto Z. Awesome stuff as always!!
EVA?
@@thenextlayer EVA is from ratrig printers, 2.4 and 3. Lots of adapters to use them on vorons. I'm running 3 of the EVA2.4 units that were designed for the Mercury 1.1 conversion and they are just awsome. Put whatever hotend in you like and extruder combo's are endless.
Custom alu heatsink/mounts are really the next big thing for 3d printers imo. I'm working on a heatsink that integrates the extruder motor and gear housing to get an ultra-short extrusion system.
When I hear people complain and say that they shouldn't even HAVE to upgrade and just basically want it perfect out of the box I typically respond with "Stock is NEVER good enough". If you're happy with what 80 out of 100 other people get then good, have at it. But if you're like me and one of the other 20 then there's just no pleasing us so the best thing to do is make it easy enough for us to make it what we want.
You are not wrong man, we NEED Eddy Coil support as fast as possible. I have already ordered 2 of those sensors in expectation of this.
Nice!!!! Hopefully that adds incentive to Sovol to do it.
Why? To measure where the metal underneath your actual print surface is? Gimme a klicky (or even better an unklick) probe any day ... That at least probes the actual glass, G10, PEI or other material actually making up the print surface.
I had high hopes for this printer, so I ordered one. After seeing all the videos with firmware mods, huge headache to connect to wifi etc. etc. I cancelled the order and bought a Bambu. Smaller build plate, but I got the A1, so it will do till Bambu releases a bigger printer. I am not interested in working on/upgrading other peoples products, I prefer spending my time working on my own. It is beyond me that anybody actually accept a product that needs to be upgraded to work as it should. If Sovol get their act together and get this to work like a Bambu does, I'll buy it.
None of these upgrades are necessary. For the price, you need to set your expectations accordingly. I hate how much the Bambu comparison is used.
You need to be comparing this printer to a voron, not a bambu
It works great out of the box, but this is not for the audience who wants a “just works” printer. This is for people who want something like a Voron without having to build from scratch. Sounds like this isn’t the printer for you.
It would be nice to have the option of getting different trim levels of SV08:
level 1: what you get now @ $579, it's going to do it's job, but you won't necessarily like it, if you actually use it often, you will be annoyed and highly motivated to upgrade parts
level 2: you get carefully selected, still economical, but good quality components such as quieter fans @ $650, you actually like it
level 3: advanced, excellent components @ $900, you love it, little is left to upgrade, aimed at print-and-forget crowd, no trial and error tinkering necessary
I think manufacturers probably would be surprised at how many people will choose the middle variant and how few will change the level 1. Of course for the manufacturers, it's impossible to tell the truth like: with level one you get cheapest of the cheap parts, if we have a choice of a loud fan for $7 or a much quieter fan for $8, you will get the loud fan, because it's cheaper. I really, really, don't want to get a cheap as hell Ford pinto and then upgrade it into a reliable, quiet, pleasant, powerful and refined car. But they have competition to consider and price is king, right? Let's hope this will change.
I do appreciate the video showing low hanging fruit upgrades for intermediate and lower usersike myself and honestly you could probably jave made 2 separate videos for easy upgrades and advanced upgrades anyway
Should’ve split it up for sure
Great Video! Can you print TPU wirh your new Hotend? Would love to see a Stealthburner Hotend Conversion.
Have had a modded sv07plus since day one, I have found nothing proprietary from Sovol in Klipper itself and have uninstalled and reinstalled using Kiauh without any issues.
I believe they did obfuscate the update button in mainsail but after helping 100s of people in the Facebook group this is a good thing for novice users. You should easily be able to update Klipper using SSH and add any missing features.
As for the z-offset and probe, the Z-offset will never change it’s the probe inductive probe tolerance that is the issue. But with proper pre-heat of bed and probe and upping the probe count you can get very nice 0.2mm first layers.
Hmmm maybe I’ll try that.
I bought an X1 Carbon about 3 months ago having waited over a year for the kinks to be ironed out, I have used my X1C and AMS a lot, I realised the other day that I was missing modding my printers, the only mods I have left to do are Mercury 1.1 mods to 2 Ender 5 Plus machines that are already highly modded, in fact the only Creality parts left are the frame and the motion system I just realised I could sell my 2 Ender 5 Plus printers and buy a couple of SV08.
I have a bit of a soft spot for Sovol as they used to take the Creality designs and fix them upgrade them and still mange to sell them cheaper than Creality.
I shall have to have a good think about this.
Agreed. I love Sovol machines honestly.
Buy a Voron. More mods, less restrictions and at the end of the day you will pay the same.
5:36 this big leak, people have known about for ages and it’s just an adapted version of the panda touch to run Klipper, they are releasing a way that panda touch’s could be converted and vies versa
You know, companies are a bit worried that he might just leak something important
Didn’t know they had already published info about it? I knew they had teased
I deserved that… a few weeks ago I almost uploaded a short about something I was printing until I realized the printer I was using to do it was top secret. Fortunately I am much more careful these days!
@@thenextlayer don’t know about anything official but the information has been out for months
it was tongue and cheek. we didn't really think he was revealing a secret to the world
What type of themperature sensor the SV08 use? I did a Revo upgrade on my Qidi X-max 3 and wondered why the themerature not being sensed. Actually I did not shortened anything - the Xmax simply uses a thermocouple instead of a thermistor. I simply added an old creality silent board flashed to klipper to ad an thermistor input, added two cables on the chain from the printhead to the creality board, and edit a few lines in the firmware. Worked well.
So it might be interesting to find out if the board actually realy was shortened or simply a different type of temperature sensor is used.
The one thing that should be stressed is, to get the proper version of this, you need to get the enclosure as well. Its beyond idiotic to offer an "open framed" core X/Y printer these days, especially if its built on a 2.4 frame. So while the printer is cheaper without the enclosure, the ACTUAL cost of the printer is about $750 with the enclosure. Then its basically a 2.4 in all but name only, with its parts list fully posted, mods for it will be just as easily made as they are for the 2.4 itself. Many mods should be very easy conversions to work for the SV08 that came from or are from the 2.4. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Stealburner conversion for the hotend soon, since it already runs CAN-BUS the mod should be fairly straight forward short of adapting how it mounts to the gantry.
For inductive probe, if you can, do NOT home with that and try to use the physical sensor on the back for your Z home. The Inductive probe will ALWAYS drift, and if you must use it as your Z home, then you will need to go into the Printer.cfg to fix this. Under the Probe section in the printer.cfg file you will find a setting for the tolerance of the probing, usually set at .05. This is too much leeway and is the root cause of the Z drifting, so a simple decrease of it to .02 instead and increase the number of samples to 3 (if not already) or 5 (which is max). This will ensure better Z homing and minimize the drift as much as possible. My guess is Sovol already did this with a firmware update, but really you can just do it yourself.
I have done this myself with both of my Neptune 4 Max printers that, unfortunately, also use an inductive probe to home Z. After adjusting that tolerance in the config file, many issues with inconsistent Z homing heights were fixed.
There is a reason that even with a stock Voron 2.4, that there is a physical Z endstop at the back corner of the printer, because the inductive probe is not reliable enough for this.
So its not running mainline Klipper? The fuck? If you can, rip that shit out and install mainline klipper, it is beyond stupid, that companies "make their own version" of Klipper, blocking users from being able to update it themselves......
Great comment, super informative, upvoting!
@thenextlayer hey, is the BTT screen you used the panda touch with different firmware installed? I remember seeing BTT say that the Bambu screen and Klipper screen will both be interchangeable by just swapping the firmware on the device. I got a panda when they first launched, and haven't updated the firmware for it yet even, so I've been pretty let down about its functionality. And now that the latest Bambu firmware apparently bricked the functionality of all aftermarket interfaces (panda, xtouch, home assistant, etc), I'm thinking putting it to use on my SV08 once it arrives ("mid-June" for Canada 🙄) would be the best use for it.
Not opposed to getting the BTT HDMI 5, and that was originally my plan, but after seeing this I'm thinking repurposing this panda is the best course of action
Yep it’s the same hardware different firmware. Seriously though, Bambu disabled everything? Not cool.
@@thenextlayer I haven't updated my printers to the most recent firmware, so I can't confirm for myself. However, I have seen lots of posts in the community confirming it. But in Bambu's defence (as much as I don't want to support this decision), they did say this a while back, and BTT also said it was possible as well and even offered refunds for those that were leery.
Now would you say its better to grab the HDMI screen, or do you think the panda will be a solid option? Also, anyway you can hook up the firmware so I can follow suit? 😄
I’ve been on and off watching your channel for awhile and TBH it often feels like you half ass these projects, printer reviews, and in general most of your content. You decide half way through your metrics, views, and sponsors are more important than your content quality, give a lame excuse, and then hand wave the parts you didn’t bother with. I get that you have a business to run, but I feel there are other channels that handle these situations better and honestly do it less often. I’ll stick around for now as a subscriber to see how you improve as the channel grows, but this has been something that bothers me about your content for quite awhile now.
i personally dont see your point, can you make some examples more specifically?
i think he mention the things that arent good, he doesnt hide them.
Also he is a 3d printing enthusiast so is normal that even if a machine lacks something in the end he will be happy.
the thing is that he say whats wrong about the product very clearly and then the review goes on with his opinions.
i agree with the other better channel part tho.
this is just to talk im not trying to insult or anything
Thanks for the feedback, and you’re right. I used to be much much more… strict… about the content, but October 7th kind of changed my priorities. I’ll work on not half assing it, though.
@@damianomotta1809 In this video specifically there are more than a few examples. Like instead of modeling the mount for the BTT sensor he just glued it in place, instead of fixing the feet they cut them in half and said F it, instead of running canbus they hacked in a USB cable, instead of talking about replacing the display he just dropped in sponsor click bait for the new BTT klipper display, instead of modeling a new tool head cover he literally just chopped it up with a dremel wheel, instead of talking about a better silent electronics fan people could purchase and using a link he just dropped in some junk he had around, his revo hotend mount wasn’t finished but instead of waiting for the replacement he just drilled into it and said it will be fixed later. All throughout he name dropped sponsor after sponsor who paid for all the stuff and paid him to make the video. This is just this one video, but honestly he does it in all of them.
@@sunnygallioddly, this is why I watch this channel. He shows the issues he runs in to instead of hiding them, is honest about his temporary or quick fixes, and doesn't blame all the problems on everything else. He shows what an average experience is like for many people who do this on the hobby level. I love Aurora and teaching tech as much as anyone, but I'm no engineer with infinite time. And TNL experience is way closer to my personal experience IMO. 🤷♂️
@@bimmerfreak10 Yep, couldn't have said it better myself. I totally agree with you. Some people see it differently, and that's cool. But I like something closer to what I would likely encounter.
Nice to see someone custom their own printer 😊 there is enough printer farms for the plug and play 3Ds ers
Schalom my friend, take your time, excellent Video, happy waiting for the next one.
Most Israelis/Jews will spell it "shalom" btw. :)
@@condorman6293 i would rather say most will say it שָׁלוֹם, but in english it is shalom of course.
Interesting vid. But if you want a printer to mod then buy a good Voron kit. Even the best and more expensive LDO kit will cost less if you add all those options to the sovol. (I know OP has this kit too. Would be nice to get an comparison here. )
How much will the sovol s08 with the enclosure option cost with the "necessary" upgrades? I'm not sure if it would be much cheaper than a voron 2.4
Still MUCH cheaper, and none of these upgrades are NECESSARY… it works fine out of the box…
Any fan, especially that loud being on 24/7 was a terrible decision.I saw another review the other day and the SV08 they bought has QA issues with the side metal frame pieces that screw into the bottom so sounds like it either slipping through QA or they were just trying to get orders out. You should homes6ask BIQU what it would take to work if am internal MQTT server on something like Home Assistant.
The screen is great but the one downside is since it works over WiFi, probably using MQTT, they lag a little. I got an XTouch on my PS1 and works the same way so just something to know for anyone interested.
I agree, the proprietary hot ends were a bad idea.I already know the Swiss3Dc Starlex DHB hotend will work but it's still preorder only. Unique system. With a CHR Bambu heatsink it will work with P1S/X1 using the DHB 24, 24mm of melting zone. They have different lengths, super suick nozzle change and can super dual ceramic heaters. Will work with any printer that has a heat since with uoword screw at the bottom, with an adapter for.precie length. 22, 24, 28, and 32mm were the options. The design is pretty ingenious IF it works as advertised. Downside is no preorder price listed yet.
FYI, DFORCE trianglab has an 80W ceramic heater heater/thermistor for X1/1, so if this is JST it would work also.
I hope it succeeds because places like DFORCE and Mellow makes a lot of custom parts for printers that sell.well, like the Endor 3(insert version here). With this being.opem source, would make it really easy for them to do so it's something you could upgrade over time if you don't have the money now, but will.down the line. Obviously it has to sell well for them to.makw.money doing so.
I would LOVE to see you build a VZBot kit from Mellow 3D. The Goliath hot end is insane,, especially if you water cool it which is primarily for heat cream if I'm not mistaken. Might as well water cool the stepper motors also as they can get to 80C or above.
It's basically a Voron on steroids created by the VZbot team which I believe is around 10 people. It's all open source so no kit needed but I've seen it so 2000ms/s and get over 80mm/s volumetric rate and 20000mm/s travel speed from corner to corner. All for the price of a X1 with AMS. Minus the 40 hour assembly and printing parts for it.
So much Jank lol Hopefully you get this running soon
Just fyi: i2C is actually i²C and pronounced "I Square C " :) It's a very popular protocol for local electronics communications.
TNL: Wait! I know it sounds overwhelming...
Me: What's a toolboard
LOL
What would be involved in just swapping out the entire toolhead to a Stealthburner?
That would’ve been so much easier, probably. I wonder though if I could’ve used the same Toolhead board if I redesigned the inner parts of stealthburner
24:27 Sovol should allow plain klipper and provide the config files.
Agreed. I’ll pressure them
if you want vanilla klipper, you could do a mainboard swap with a different klipper mainboard. it would make it easier to mod.
Why didn’t I think of this…. I have plenty of boards. Might do it.
Hello, i from switzerland ,i like your chanel 😊
I just want more content on the SV08, so you can do all teh heard work for me until I have mine in hand =)!
lol truth.
So, is it safe to buy the SV08 now? Are the issues ironed out now?
I wish someone would sponsor my broke a$$. I probably would have bought the sv08 if I hadn’t already bought a new printer
Have you made any advance regarding making the Eddy works?
The printer is in a million pieces while I rebuild a new tool head
did I miss the link for the sv08 step files or what not?
First things i want to upgrade are the injection molded parts on the gantry. Unfortunatelly they are not replacable with the cnc machined Voron parts.
So CNC your own? Upload to PCBWay
People have already designed aluminium XY joints and AB motor mounts that will suit the SV08. Sovol released the whole SV08 STEP file so everyone had a head start. The changes are relatively minor. I'm sure in no time at all you will be able to buy CNC parts from Funssor, Chaoticlab etc.
Is the SV08 faster than the Bambu P1S?
Wouldn’t be easier to design a template for being able to mount a Stealthburner?
Well done persivering while stepping in poop along the way repeatedly and just being open about it all
While this video seems kinda unfinished and sponsor heavy as if you only picked the products based on being paid to put them in I am very interested in this printer. I am looking at this printer andnthe T500 both claim to be "Klipper" printers. My concern is multiple materials I'd love to see a video where someone attached a ERCFv2 to either this or the T500.
That’s fair feedback, I chose parts from brands I already know because I don’t know what special new products other brands have coming or have a way of getting them in advance. But I didn’t get paid to use those products.
Anyways, I will do a video eventually about ERCF2, and also Sovol has their own multicolor solution coming soon.
@@thenextlayer I know Sovol has a multicolor solution on the way, much more interested in the ERCFv2 as it supposedly works with "any" Klipper printer. I know it's most used by the Voron community but I'm really interested in seeing it on non Voron but still "Klipper" printers.
A Voron 2.4 vs Sovol SV08 would be interesting.
I kinda did that in the last video.
@@thenextlayer I’m referring to an in-depth break down (which doesn’t seem to exist anywhere online).
I’m planning to get a 2.4, SV08, or Ratrig Vcore 4. So any side by side comparisons are greatly appreciated.
Maybe someone will create an SV08 to 2.4 conversion in the future. (like the Enderwire project)
I came really close to getting the SV08 but this video is just reinforcement that I made a right decision just spending the extra money and getting a bambu. I getting modding the printer is a big thing for a lot people but these "mods" seem like you're just fixing their product.
Every time I think i've got things dialed in, my Voron reminds me that I don't know what I'm doing.
What is this VOC meter?
AliExpress special
I can view any of the links mentioned in the video.
Hey guys i want to replace my mitherboard fan can someone give me a good alternative?
Noctua + buck converter
I want a sovol mini because my flat is too small.
Hopefully soon!
I really don't understand why manufacturer for klipper and make custom versions, isn't the whole pro of klipper that manufactures only need to provide printer configurations...?
My question is will this printer. out of the box with no modification. print better than the A1 I currently own an Ender 3V3 SE. I hate it the print quality is terrible. I have a voxelab Aquila That has a better print quality than my ender 3V3 SE. I am assuming that the A1 has a better print quality than both these printers. Also has the rough top surface Of a print been solved with this printer.
It probably won’t print better than the A1… few printers do honestly. Better than an ender, yes.
I suspect that if I had one of these printers it wouldn't be long before I ripped out the electronics and put in a Raspberry Pi and BTT Octopus or similar.
Yeah I’m warming to the idea honestly.
I was looking into the BTT Eddy probes and seems they are a bit half baked. Better off with beacon or cartographer probes.
Eddy probes are best run over usb as they can easily overwhelm the 1Mbit limit of the CAN bus.
Even old gen USB has 480Mbit. I dont understand why CAN has been adopted as the popular choice for connecting mcu's in klipper. Makes no sense.
Oh wow I didn’t know that, thanks. I will test it out and report back.
The tool head shroud is ugly and bulky anyway. Looking forward to a nice replacement
Didn’t BTT announce and ‘leak’ the screen at RMRRF? 🙄
They did?! I wasn’t there… and they told me “please don’t release any details besides the existence of it”
@@thenextlayer Yup, Nero covered it 8 days ago, albeit not booted into KlipperScreen.
Maybe you could have split the upgrades into tiers and make 3 shorter videos
That would’ve been wise.
5:19 oh shit, here we go again (but this time it is just marketing, and not an actual leak)
Ha yeah we learned to triple check with brands before we show any product before the official launch ;)
Watts aren't what kills wires. Amps are what kills wires. Amps are Watts divided by Volts. Amps are also entirely deterministic based on the needs of the electronic parts - you don't "provide" Amps to a device, the device "pulls" amps, and it pulls as many as it needs.
So simply saying that the hotend has 60 Watts is meaningless, because that might be rated for 1 Amp at 60 Volts, 60 Amps at 1 volt, or 5 Amps at 12 Volts. Even if you know that the new hotend only needs 50 Watts, unless you know the volts and amps of both parts you don't actually know what the demands on the wiring will be after the change. If the old hotend was 60 Wats at 24v and the new hotend is 50 Watts at 12v, you've gone from wiring carrying 2.5 Amps to carrying 4.2 Amps, and that may exceed their spec.
I mean, it's probably not unreasonable to assume that most of the hotend parts out there operate on similar voltages, but it is just an assumption, not actual knowledge.
…all 3D printers these days use 24v….
From my experience you know you've gone all wrong when wires are hanging all over the place held up with velcro straps.
Just run main line klipper there is zero need to run a dirty version of klipper.
You sure??? I think they did it for a reason such as the probe in the back
This was a bit ambitious, or not properly researched, really. The USB version of the EDDY probe should have worked fine but native Klipper support for eddy current probes is still very early and not fully functional. BTT have been saying that USB Eddy should be what most people use and the coil version is more of dev item, but they haven't made that super clear. There is a reason the Beacon probe has its own micro controller and software.
Its been clear from the start that Sovol were using their own Klipper because they use the custom strain guage sensor for the rear nozzle probe. The BTT Eddy Coil is not meant to be used as an endstop so you need to use a seperate one, I'm not sure if the Sovol strain guage can be used for that.
The custom heatsink looked great though! I also applaud you for publishing even though it effectively failed. Failure is OK and should be shown when it comes to making things and modifying things. BTT and other manufacturers have been guilty of implying this stuff is always easy and trouble free, especially with stuff that is sold possibly too early, without proper testing and documentation.
I appreciate the feedback. You’re right, I wanted to try to use new and untested products as a way of making the video more appealing to more people who maybe aren’t interested in the SV08 per se. and yeah I’m guilty of not doing my research, as I hate the electronics and software parts of modding… I love the mechanical and design parts though. Hopefully I get it to work, if not, I’ll just do klicky or even restore the original probe. Feel free to message me on discord if you want to talk about it, sounds like you’re very knowledgeable.
High quality?! Sovol does budget printers, like Creality, not high quality.
Really I don't get idea with replacing heatsink with custom product, adding new board for toolhead, changing probe... When with the same equipment, you could try to replace toolhead with Stealthburner, what will be real mod for average users. Maybe I get idea and it was sponsors, but then... Too much focus on adding sponsors to video, too little execution of what is mentioned in title - making real tutorial/check/prove of upgrading SV08 like it would be done by community.
Stealthburner is fat and heavy with poor part cooling. Fine if all you do is high temp printing. In an enclosed printer. Which this thing is not.
Why limit your options? If your going to replace the toolhead do it with something more versatile and offers better performance. Dragon burner or Xol toolheads are better options. Stealth burner mini even if you just have to have that look.
@@ashleywhitehead3710 ok, fine. It could be dragonburner. Still, I don't see point in developing custom toolhead or like here custom heatsink. Community will not follow this direction, especially if there are multiple checked and reliable solutions
The custom heatsink was intended to be a drop in replacement. It still should be. But then I fried the original board and didn’t want to get stuck…. So yeah.
i have to say this really isnt what i expected yes the new hotend is nice but not needed and to actually replace the tool head board with something else becorse you broke it is just stupid.
modding is to improve not to make stuff worse or way more exspencive.
this just showed you rush tings and dont think them through.
and breaks whats working for no reason.
now if you had made the new hotend so it could use a hardend steel nozzle so one could actually print cf and stuff without wearing the nozzle it would have been a great idea but you just made a way more exspencive hotend that does the same as the original aka useless
I might’ve forgotten to mention… E3D is releasing some new nozzles soon for revo… can’t say more ;) but another reason I chose revo. Also yes I rush things and don’t think them through ;)
Also just a reminder not to follow your followers. Some vocal minority complains that you're not like all the other popular youtubers. If you were mimmicking what everybody else did and made the kind of videos they made then you would have no reason to exist. To be or not to be. That is the question.