When he talks about frank and about how he had a brilliant mind and wasted it on drugs and alcohol I could cry because that's exactly what my brother did, ruined his opportunities, messed up his kids, it's such a shame. I love Shameless because it's so honest and real. It's what real people through
Exactly why I like shameless. People wanted the happy story cliche of Lip getting out the ghetto and getting a degree. Not like I didn’t want that but his life took a different turn but he salvaged it instead of letting himself hit rock bottom like Frank. Now he is a motorcycle mechanic and seems to be a good father better than frank by a lot. I didnt watch the last 2 seasons so idk what else happens. He kept fighting and not letting shitty circumstances and situation take over him
It's life, life is not fair, some people just have easy and better life's then others will ever see, no matter how hard they try or what they do it never will work out for them, i believe in destiny, some are destined to succeed and others are not. it is what it is, just live your life, nothing matters, one day it will end.
@@Hassony523 you an idiot? Lip is written to be a high IQ smart guy, regardless of you pushing your agenda. Doesn't matter if people are violent or not, it doesn't mean people are stupid or smart.
@@desty4030 If he had a high IQ, then he would be able to think about the accurate estimate of the consequences to his actions. But he chooses to have sex with his professor and fought someone. He did think ahead very well, so I can assume his IQ isn't that high due to him lacking in the "think ahead" department.
Haha, the student representative is the type of person who is going to get herself killed by obsessively trying to police every last aspect of human emotion with the word ‘safe.’
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain newsflash thats everyday in the real world.Just because you assign some word to a building doesnt change the fact that there are still people walking throught it
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain still, she adopted a non-binding, by the book approach, in a case that clearly needed an adjusted, more binding approach. See, people that think that the world goes by the books; especially undergrads; tend to perform lower. The world follows a set of patterns indeed, but it is rather, dynamic patterns, affected by contingencies, than patterns with constant variables.
Fuckin asian sjw ooohhh i dont feel safe.... I would have tracked her and her family down like he did that toy and fuck them up ...give her something to fear
When lip said his dad went to college, I thought he was lying lol. (I have always been surprised when Frank goes on his rants and he actually sounds smart, I always thought it didn’t match up) It wasn’t until Frank was talking about how he met Monica that I realized Frank did go to college. Lip is Frank 😱
At one point lip and ian are talking about Ian's bipolar and how it's a shitty Monica gene and lip says that Frank's Gene's are also shitty and when I looked more closely at lip I kinda realized he is like Frank in many ways just a little different
Lip and Fiona are Frank. Debbie and Ian are Monica (bc remember Frank isnt Ians biological father). No idea who Liam and Carl are but Liam may have hope bc his mother may not have been too crazy
There are a million kids like this in the ghetto that are a million times smarter than their privileged peers. You have to help the lost people around you to create any change
Tobirama Senju Nobody is acting victim. There’s also a lot of truth in op’s comment. You seem like you’re trying extremely hard to pull the “you’re a victim” card. Don’t you have anything better to do than to take what someone said out of context?
Well if those million kids manage to work their way into college or earn that privilege that’s excellent! I just hope they don’t try and destroy the place with selfish actions and then try to play the victim card like Lip does.
I love that when Ian is telling his story, u can actually see Lip reliving that moment and u can see he was truly happy that Ian remembered that. Lip never realized how much that meant to Ian until that moment
What happened to Lip in season 5 literally happened to my brother. Both were engineers too. Financial Aid kicked him out of his dorm and cut off his ability to continue classes bc it was his last year in college (makes no sense). He had scholarships but they only covered so much. He was commuting back and forth, living basically in a closet on a futon and then when family issues occurred it took him another SIX YEARS to get his degree. He cant even use his degree anymore bc he has no experience. So now, like Lip, hes working for much less and doing something completely unrelated to his degree. I think the only difference is my brother tried like hell, commuting till his car broke down and even still getting his last credits through a community college, but Lip just gave up. Its sad bc what they have in common is coming from impoverished backgrounds and its hard as hell to get out of the tax bracket u are born into. Im mad Lip just gave up and made his life and WILL MAKE his childs life harder at least my brother tries smh
Honestly this should of made lip want to try to go to another college, or even try community college. He can still get a degree, and now he should be a life couch. He's good at helping people, and it seems like it's his calling. It's what his professor would have wanted.
A "Life coach" is a scam 99/100 times, it actually takes a shit load of research and studies to become an actual one. Regardless, Lip is too brilliant for such a thing.
he should be a life "couch" ? how can anyone be this illiterate is beyond me. How are you allowed to vote ? you shouldnt have a say in anything with this level of intelligence.. Pathetic ....
LetsNeverPlayAgain He made a comment in a comment section? You get upset at any comment on any that doesn’t add something new to the video? That’s.... not sad at all...
@@walterayala682No…. they didn’t have a childhood because of Frank…. once they are adults they are the masters of their own destiny and yet they make decisions that only further put themselves into holes! You’d think after all they have witnessed they’d have a better understanding of what is right and wrong but no. Whenever they make mistakes all they do is blame it on their rough childhoods and parents when that time has long passed and their scumbag parents are nowhere around!
"While I'm the supposed victim of Mr Gallagher's violent outburst, I'm also his most passionate advocate" lmfaoo that was way too funny ps i loved Youens so much
5:30 that is the moment Lip lost all faith in a system that he barely bought into to begin with. In was in that very moment that he realized he would never get out. If overturned, does he lead a better life path? Maybe. Not guaranteed, perhaps delaying the inevitable. But maybe it doesn't....maybe in that moment Lip could've really turned it around and actually have gotten out and lead a more successful life. I know it's just a TV show, but it makes you think. Major points in our lives are not dissimilar to what we see happen to Lip in this scene. Moments that ultimately decide where we'll end up...or not end up for that matter.
There's more than one college in the entire city. I mean, which university you attend is actually quite meaningless if you get a mentor as prestigious as Professor Youens.
I disagree... he literally just coasted by in school because he was abnormally gifted and only went to college because Fiona and Mandy pretty much guilted him into it. He even got a full-ride scholarship but he threw it away because he lacked maturity and impulse control
He reluctantly went to college, couldn’t handle it, was planning on dropping out well before the cocaine incident with Liam and got himself expelled instead of seeking professional help for his alcoholism….. helping his family was hardly his priority!
@@carson11100right. He didnt want to be like his parents but didnt put in the work. It was only Fiona who tried the hardest thats why she had the better results. Lip was lazy and a shitty provider
That young woman seems like a caricature. The thought of feeling safe in public places is ludicrous. If it's going to happen, it will. Worrying doesn't change it.
When I first saw this scene and Lip went back to the meeting, I just knew that he won't be given a second chance to get back to the college. Let's face it in the reality, not many colleges would give a second chance.
I can relate to this. I got academically dismissed my sophomore year of college because I failed my math and science class and they told me I can appeal it by giving them a good reason why I failed but when I did they told me they would only consider taking me back if I was sexually assaulted or almost killed because according to them those are the only good excuses for failing
What's the point of the hearing if they don't care about what he has to say in his defense? They still refused him because he attacked people/property so why bother bringing him in appeal ?
It’s not that they didn’t care about what he had to say…. his actions are just too severe to sway them to give him another chance…. he had sexual relations with a professor, destroyed property sober and drunk and tried to attack a professor…. He also refused to seek out professional help which shows he lacks perspective and I’m sure there is a good chunk of students who have come forth voicing concerns about him! The fact he also tries to get back in after only 30 days of AA is also bad as it shows he’s overly confident and hasn’t considered the possibility of a relapse….. also he doesn’t seem too apologetic.
That student representative Lindsey Chen represents everything wrong with todays college campuses. She doesn't "feel safe" and suggested that he posed a risk as a potential school shooter.... Give me a break...
He smashed up vehicles and attacked people. Would you feel safe around someone like that? Lip does show the potential of becoming homocidal because of how violent his outbursts are. He could kill someone if hes drunk enough
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlI would keep him in school based off of his genuine apology, general demeanor and overall potential. And especially because of the heartfelt testimony of those who spoke up for him and defended his character. Kicking him out of college doesn’t fix anything and is only likely to cause more problems… Don’t be such a weak and heartless coward. Be better.
@DrakeBrunette Have you not watched the show? This isn't the first time Lip has shown violent tendencies and certainly not the last. Let's just say they gave him a second chance, and he blows up again. The next outburst could result in someone dead or seriously injured. Are you really willing to risk the safety of others because you bought into a person's sob stories? Lip has proven he cannot be trusted and he has no one to blame but himself.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlWell said. Just because you had it rough and an unfair childhood you have ZERO right to a free pass to destroy school property, assault people, drink like a fiend and only accept help after the damage has been done! He deserved to be expelled and would’ve just screwed it all up again.
If I was Lip I would have threatened to sue. Tell them that his alcoholism stemmed from the sexual and emotional abuse he suffered from his female professor and that the school was aware of said teacher's relationship with multiple students throughout the years.
That wouldnt fly sadly. Now if he were a minor, yeah that could work but he knew what he was getting into. She didnt sexually abuse him but she strung him along then dumped him
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED I haven't watched the show so this may be wrong, but just because he's of legal age doesn't mean there's no case. She's in a huge position of authority and power over him, and there's an argument to be made of her using that authority to force him into it.
@@THEDOORIZCLOSEDThe public doesn’t know the details of their relationship. Due to the power imbalance, they view Lip as the victim. Plus they started the relationship when he was like 19, his maturity wasn’t exactly fully developed yet.
Privilege has nothing to do with it….. at school all are equal and no matter how bad your home life is you cannot use it as an excuse to damage property, attack people and drink uncontrollably…. The student rep has a right to express concerns over safety and I don’t care if she’s the daughter of the governor! No voice should be silenced!
@@carson11100 stfu. pple likke you would be literally the first one with neeedles in arm or start series of DUI in his situation. i know it, cuz i've been in Lip's slituation before. pple like you think you're above touchables and i wanna punch the living *hit out of that privilege out of your ass
@@carson11100 fuck you, you arrogant asshole. I bet you look down on the poors dont you? I bet that you, stuck in your own sense of privilege and arrogance, view people like Lip as nothing more then violent trash. Fuck you. No wonder the education system fails the most vulnerable, because of sociopaths like you who view people as just a reflection of their upbringing, money and circumstance.
i was wondering, if this guy lip, is such a big hot shot, why mourn over such a small loss, he's smart as hell, he's intelligent, TONS of other places would have wanted him even with his record...
When one college/university expels you, they all do. They communicate and if you get expelled or have a black mark on the record you've lost your chance at getting any kind of degree at a place where it matters. Short of looking internationally Lip is fucked.
@whatever happened to that boy? they don't care if you've murdered someone they care about plagiarism. Which is pretty much the only way you get expelled from a university. Look it up I'm not joking
Holy shit the brother is the actor of cal kestus in fallen order.... the face is sooo similar that my mind doesn’t know if the one in the show is even real!!
Just hope Liam stays off the booze because he’s just as smart as them. Funny thing is that Lip and Liam are the only two kids confirmed to be Frank’s and they inherited his intelligence. Makes you wonder about the rest. Though I do think Fiona is Frank’s since she’s street smart, athletic, and an alcoholic like him.
Lip’s brother had just been diagnosed with Bipolar And. So his mother. Ian’s brother is an alcoholic and an addict. He takes what he pleases but it offers nothing no 💴 no support. I just wanted to give these kids they deserve everything because they are a great kids. And they deserve better. I wish. I could’ve done raising my siblings. I wish I could’ve done more
I always feel so bad for Lip but he was his own worst enemy. As frank said in his letter at the end of his series. he has a brilliant mind that was the golden goose of his family that was meant for bigger and better things. but kept getting in his own way, through his anger, drinking or other factors. despite being happy with a wife and kid. we are still left wondering what could have been if didn't go on the path he went on.
He should have went to community college too . His opportunity wasnt over he just gave up SMH. Hes a terrible provider as a man, made more kids while he wasnt even moving up in pay. Smh not smart at all
"I don't miss the people who are so privileged that they don't even know how lucky they are." Says the guy who got blessed with a brilliant mind but throws every chance to do something with it away.
People are products of their environment. Lip did fuck up to be sure, but his upbringing practically set him up to fail. Little miss four eyes worst day probably doesn’t even scratch some of the shit Lip had to deal with on a daily basis.
Lip was my least favorite character he was arrogant, thought he was better than everybody, made fun of Fiona for working at a diner where he washed dishes, he was the biggest moocher of them all using people for free stuff had a temper like a toddler when he didn’t get his way. When he threw his desk in the classroom window that was the moment I thought what a douche. Just cause he grew up in the hood doesn’t give him a right to destroy peoples properties. And end the end he ended up being the biggest loser of all the Gallaghers. He deserved not goth back to college. Was given so many opportunities. He treated Mandy like shit.
I absolutely adore lip but you're completely right. He was extremely ungrateful; always passing the blame onto others. He thought he was better than fiona, who sacrificed everything for her family since she was 9.
@@perturbedxtirade7428 the character I hated was Gus! The stupid idiot asks to marry Fiona after a week she’s honest with him tells him the truth she got with her ex he then treated her like a hoe. That’s his stupidity asking to get married after a week. It annoyed me how hard he tried to get involved in her life alll cause she had to act fast around other band members gf. Of course Gus took advantage of the opportunity he is such a douche. That song. If I were her I would have walked out before he finished. He’s the type that will be real nice but if it ends badly he wants to sabotage her life. Not sighing those papers knowing kids lived there. I hate his character so much I’d automatically not like him in any show or movie he plays in. I gagged when she crawled in bed with him & he just got on top of her like he’s making love. It’s impossible to be in love after a week. I loved it when Shawn proposed in front of him & he throws his stupid grandmas ring at him!!!
I like Lip but he made me mad as hell. HATED the way he treated Mandy and then they just wrote her off as a psycho who mentally impaired Karen and then graduated to become a sex worker. Liiiike…no. She had more potential then that she wanted to get out with Lip and then they just wrote her off😂😂😂 I liked Lip with Helene too but it was cut too short and they would have been cuter of they were exclusive, not her being married. Lots of potential for these characters and the show plummeted to horrible writing.
theres no way they wouldnt let him back in they would do anything to swipe that sex with the teacher thing under the rug as a school especially as one of the most famous schools imagine if that happened irl and if it was a male teacher and girl student, she would be leaving with a diploma and 10 million damage and suffering😅😂
they all ruin their lifes over relationships. fiona just throws away her house and everything because boo hoo the guy she dates has a wife (which isnt a surprise the guy has 5 kids and hangs with 10 of hus exes at all times for some reason) and lip throws it all away for the teacher (he coulda stayed with the asian girl which had her dad that couldve gotten lip into a good job in robotics which is all he cares about and had the girl that really loved him)
Why did this show choose to fuck over Lip? The one bright star in the Gallagher family. The family should have had one kid make it out. Not just make another Frank.
Mogwai Man they probably wanted to make it realistic. i mean, yeah there's a chance you will make something out of your life even if your up bringing was shitty but more often than not you'll end up like Lip here, fucking up and missing out on opportunities
DeltroxTv it can be really upsetting, i got you there. it's like the more you try to pull yourself away from it the more you get dragged right back into it. i guess it must feel so fucking ridiculous to lip, and you, that you know everything that's wrong with what your dad is doing and you hate him for it but then you're not any better and hate yourself as well. i have that too, sometimes i catch myself acting exactly like my parents and it alienates me from myself and i would rather jump right out of my skin because i feel so gross, i see what has become of them and i feel like if i continue acting like them i will head right into the same path. that's why i really like pretending i'm someone else, it might make me unoriginal but at least it's better than being like them! lol
Carl made it out and Debbie sort of did as well bc she ends up owning her own business and moving out. Her choice in partner is trash tho. Carl becomes a police officer and helps preserve the Alibi. Fiona also sort of makes it out after she sells the laundry place for six figures and moves out to find herself. The losers are Ian and Lip
@@3brendan933and then the scary part is u find out that when you think youre acting like someone else, youre actually behaving like a grandparent or great grandparent. I hate genetics
It’s crazy how addiction and mental health disorders screwed up the oldest Gallagher kids from having success. Alcoholism got Lip kicked from college and screwed Fiona in her business decisions. Meanwhile a bipolar episode made Ian into a felon and unable to continue being an EMT. At least Carl turned his life around and Liam still has a chance like Lip originally did. And Debbie is just Monica 2.0 except is a shit person without a disorder or addiction.
should've went to another school. honestly shameless went to shit after season 6 imo. after lip left college the show just kinda dragged and became boring. i think part of it is just being able to relate as a college kid.
show was an emotional roller coaster of ups and downs, i wonder what it will be like without Fiona she was the glue that held the family together but in the last couple seasons seemed to not give a shit about them.
Fiona was trash and is what brought the family down . Lip was the glue. When he went to college is when it all fell apart cause the only sane one ...wasn't there.
@@TheGodfather-bm3ow i never liked Fiona bc even she realized she was a terrible influence on Debbie which is why Debbie ended up pregnant. She wasnt all bad and neither was Lip but Lip was definitely lazy as hell and had to be steered to go to college. Fiona had the drive, Lip had the smarts. They were strong together and didnt realize it. Debbie was also smart bit got lost trying to keep up with Fiona’s sleazy behavior (SAD!). The only ones with a decent future are Carl and Liam. Carl was off to himself and wasnt too influenced by the ridiculousness of the other family members and and Liam was the same way
I hate this scene...Lip deserved a 2nd chance. Students who have done worse shit with a fraction of the potential get off because they have money or because they happened to be born into family with status
A lot of you are talking crap about the student representative and others that expelled Lip mainly because you've followed his story and like his character but he absolutely deserved to be kicked out. He made his own bed.
Personally at some point, I stopped feeling sorry for Lip. He kept getting himself in bad situations. And instead of owning up to it he blamed everyone else for it.
Lip might be brilliant but he has no control about himself. He gives into every desire anc impulse. If they would have taken him back, he would be sitting there a weak later, again for something else.
@@shenanigansone8172 I don't get why people have to turn everything into a race issue. If he is white you claim he wasn't given a second chance because he is white. If he would be black people would claim he wasn't given a second chance because he is black. 🙄 It's just absurd to me. If you have no proof of racism, don't go there with your accusations. But to answer your question, people are sitting in prison for less than destroying cars with a sledgehammer. And they don't get access to one of the best colleges in the world. They just get access to state colleges. I am sure lip could go there too, but why would you think he deserves a second chance to go to one of the best universities in the world when a thousand others are waiting for that chance? Would you be so eager to give him a second chance and ridicule the idea of keeping the campus safe, if someone would have destroyed your car with a sledgehammer?
I got tired of this show. It's the same shit again and again. Sex, violence, drugs, alcohol, marriage, hospitalised, in a constant loop! Gave up after watching season 6. I like watching Porn and sex but in this show, I got fed up of characters having sex and changing partner right and left. I only like the first 3-4 seasons. Rest is the same damn shit with a little tweak.
I agree. In the earlier season most of the sex scenes were shot in a way where it wasn’t the entire focus of the scene. It was shot up close, messy, unappealing, and realistic. It was made to show us, the viewers, how rough their environment was. Later seasons is a stark contrast to that, with the camera giving a full view on the scene, showing off the actress’ bodies in a way where it’s almost appealing to the viewer. TLDR: it was used to give a narrative in the earlier seasons and it was used to appeal to the audiences in the later seasons
Saaaaame! I like this till season 5 or 6. But that Frank+Bianca plot was irritating and dry. They should have explored the Lip+Helene situation and tie that into a complex with Monica bc all of Lips relationships where he flipped shit or got obsessed with was with blonde women like his mother. Fiona was intimidated by Steve bc she was used to “Frank.” They should have explored how as the kids grew, they try to not be like their parents bit instead like y’all saying they just switched significant others and the writing became so weak and it was all ab sex and porn like what the hell. The show could have had a powerful plot ab mental illness and genetics and it just fell off. Then the political propaganda started around season 7 and its like OH NOW YOU WANT TO BE SERIOUS? Too late, bc they sacrificed character development for propaganda and it was a frustrating waste of time to get through all 11 seasons
Im a believer in second chances, however I am certain he would’ve just screwed it all up again even if they gave him another chance. He’s too damn arrogant, selfish, damaged, short-sighted and reckless. As an educator it bothers me how many people in these comments consider Lip a sympathetic, blameless victim while calling that student representative a villain for feeling unsafe around him and apparently wanting to bar him solely because he’s “poor”, and from the south-side. People like to ignore the fact that he was a violent, destructive alcoholic who refused to accept help and went on a rampage. He knows damn well what he did and his poor upbringing is no excuse and should not grant him or anyone like him in reality a free pass to damage and dilute a learning environment!
@@MidconStudios what an ameritard, is that why you rip off all of our shows you unoriginal hacks, your country is crumbling and is run by an orange cheeto.
@@courtneyclark1215 Yea America takes UK tv shows, and makes them popular not just in the U.S. but across the globe. And bitch please, I don't know how you can say the US is crumbling with your little situation.
@@deprogramm yeah sorry, but Brexit isn't a human rights violation. The US has pulled out of the UN human rights council, blatantly slandered other cultures, has had school shootings every other fucking day and makes literally zero effort at sustainability through the huge fucking cars that we drive. I'm an American (and love both Shameless vesions) but we're kinda the fucking worst. Brexit is stupid, but it sure ain't America stupid.
It sucks him rejected from a second chance getting back into college but he did sleep with a professor and he thought it was something else he may be smart at what he is majored in but in feelings for someone who is married twice his age and with a kid also in crimes he hits people destroys public and private property hacking in to the system and drugs I wound not feel safe ether with him on campus
It's not the job of the university to make you FEEL safe. Their job is to educate You and making sure that you ARE safe to make your education possible. See the difference?
@@theman6705 lip was to god damn smart that’s his problem he needed someone to guide him never know maybe that second chance was that 1 doe one’s own good can be his enemy in this case it was lip Genius I’m only on season 4 where he gets accepted to mit so now ik all this but shameless looks like it could b better lip should b star easily
Can Lip not start over? No transcripts at another school? Or is he forced to show the incident to everyone? Also isnt letting the students run the school like letting lower workers run your job? There is a hierarchy for a reason and college students can be some of the most ignorant and arrogant people on this planet. College breeds ego for a good reason but they forget to keep it in check as well.
He could do it but it'd probably be the greatest personal challenge he'll ever face, and then after getting enrolled again he'll have to finish school this time. I hope if the show ends by showing where the characters end up as a sort of epilogue, I hope we see Lip in school again working his ass off
I thought he still works on the bikes with Brad? He applied to Amazon but Brad said there was another opportunity with bikes iirc. Or maybe he makes sandwiches at his brothers shop and is currently stuck in a freezer idk
Wow. Professor's Youen's defense of Lip was so great.
All you need is to have someone to believe in you when you are at your most vulnerable time.
When he talks about frank and about how he had a brilliant mind and wasted it on drugs and alcohol I could cry because that's exactly what my brother did, ruined his opportunities, messed up his kids, it's such a shame. I love Shameless because it's so honest and real. It's what real people through
I ment to say it's what real people go through
Exactly why I like shameless. People wanted the happy story cliche of Lip getting out the ghetto and getting a degree. Not like I didn’t want that but his life took a different turn but he salvaged it instead of letting himself hit rock bottom like Frank. Now he is a motorcycle mechanic and seems to be a good father better than frank by a lot. I didnt watch the last 2 seasons so idk what else happens. He kept fighting and not letting shitty circumstances and situation take over him
It's life, life is not fair, some people just have easy and better life's then others will ever see, no matter how hard they try or what they do it never will work out for them, i believe in destiny, some are destined to succeed and others are not. it is what it is, just live your life, nothing matters, one day it will end.
He becomes a wonderful father and man in the show. This was truly one of the realest parts of the show too no joke ! @@jimmyjohns8456
This scene is heartbreaking. Lip deserves better and I hope he does well in the new coming season.
Dw it went better then you expected
He had multiple opportunities
I wish they didnt abandon that lip is supposed to be hella smart
If he was so smart he wouldn't be smashing his teacher.
The show or the schools?
@@Hassony523 No but that's the point. He's a fucking genius if he just thought straight.
@@Hassony523 you an idiot? Lip is written to be a high IQ smart guy, regardless of you pushing your agenda. Doesn't matter if people are violent or not, it doesn't mean people are stupid or smart.
@@desty4030 If he had a high IQ, then he would be able to think about the accurate estimate of the consequences to his actions. But he chooses to have sex with his professor and fought someone. He did think ahead very well, so I can assume his IQ isn't that high due to him lacking in the "think ahead" department.
Haha, the student representative is the type of person who is going to get herself killed by obsessively trying to police every last aspect of human emotion with the word ‘safe.’
Uh, killed how?
Like, this guy gets drunk and attacks people on campus. Anybody wouldn't feel safe with that shit around.
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain newsflash thats everyday in the real world.Just because you assign some word to a building doesnt change the fact that there are still people walking throught it
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain still, she adopted a non-binding, by the book approach, in a case that clearly needed an adjusted, more binding approach.
See, people that think that the world goes by the books; especially undergrads; tend to perform lower. The world follows a set of patterns indeed, but it is rather, dynamic patterns, affected by contingencies, than patterns with constant variables.
Fuckin asian sjw ooohhh i dont feel safe.... I would have tracked her and her family down like he did that toy and fuck them up ...give her something to fear
@@eddiedaubach2797 what a piece of fuck you are. I dont like her either, but Jesus, lighten up.
This was such a powerful storyline. Honestly lip had the best written story, in my opinion.
"LIP IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STUCK IN THE GHETTO " That's how my loved ones see me being stuck on the Reservation.
When lip said his dad went to college, I thought he was lying lol. (I have always been surprised when Frank goes on his rants and he actually sounds smart, I always thought it didn’t match up)
It wasn’t until Frank was talking about how he met Monica that I realized Frank did go to college. Lip is Frank 😱
Jennyfer Gomez They are all frank in someway, except Ian. He is more like Monica
At one point lip and ian are talking about Ian's bipolar and how it's a shitty Monica gene and lip says that Frank's Gene's are also shitty and when I looked more closely at lip I kinda realized he is like Frank in many ways just a little different
Yeah they definitely all have some of franks qualities but Lip especially, the alcoholism, brains, loves women lol.
Lip and Fiona are Frank. Debbie and Ian are Monica (bc remember Frank isnt Ians biological father). No idea who Liam and Carl are but Liam may have hope bc his mother may not have been too crazy
There are a million kids like this in the ghetto that are a million times smarter than their privileged peers. You have to help the lost people around you to create any change
@Tobirama Senju couldn't agree more with ma boi tobirama here
Tobirama Senju Nobody is acting victim. There’s also a lot of truth in op’s comment. You seem like you’re trying extremely hard to pull the “you’re a victim” card. Don’t you have anything better to do than to take what someone said out of context?
Well if those million kids manage to work their way into college or earn that privilege that’s excellent! I just hope they don’t try and destroy the place with selfish actions and then try to play the victim card like Lip does.
I love that when Ian is telling his story, u can actually see Lip reliving that moment and u can see he was truly happy that Ian remembered that. Lip never realized how much that meant to Ian until that moment
What happened to Lip in season 5 literally happened to my brother. Both were engineers too. Financial Aid kicked him out of his dorm and cut off his ability to continue classes bc it was his last year in college (makes no sense). He had scholarships but they only covered so much. He was commuting back and forth, living basically in a closet on a futon and then when family issues occurred it took him another SIX YEARS to get his degree. He cant even use his degree anymore bc he has no experience. So now, like Lip, hes working for much less and doing something completely unrelated to his degree. I think the only difference is my brother tried like hell, commuting till his car broke down and even still getting his last credits through a community college, but Lip just gave up. Its sad bc what they have in common is coming from impoverished backgrounds and its hard as hell to get out of the tax bracket u are born into. Im mad Lip just gave up and made his life and WILL MAKE his childs life harder at least my brother tries smh
What happened with your brother that Financial Aid kicked him out of his dorm and continue classes?
@@lolaoniyide7894 it was bc the school would not cover him for dorms bc he was a senior in college and then our family problems pulled him down
I really loved what Ian did for lip to defend him
Honestly this should of made lip want to try to go to another college, or even try community college. He can still get a degree, and now he should be a life couch. He's good at helping people, and it seems like it's his calling. It's what his professor would have wanted.
he needed to take care of the family
A "Life coach" is a scam 99/100 times, it actually takes a shit load of research and studies to become an actual one. Regardless, Lip is too brilliant for such a thing.
he should be a life "couch" ? how can anyone be this illiterate is beyond me. How are you allowed to vote ? you shouldnt have a say in anything with this level of intelligence.. Pathetic ....
@@TH-du8nc easy dude, it probably was a typo
Also, not everyone on the internet has english as his first language. @@Rodario10TUNISIAN
school systems are so ass they honesty pretty much like this, actually probably worse
Sucks that he didn’t go back to college
This is like posting "sucks those buildings fell" on a 9/11 video, what the fuck is the point? What does this add to the conversation here?
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain thanks mr.funpolice
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain my thoughts exactly.
LetsNeverPlayAgain He made a comment in a comment section? You get upset at any comment on any that doesn’t add something new to the video? That’s.... not sad at all...
@@LetsNeverPlayAgain Are you ok? Who hurt you?
lips story just seems like a tv version of good will hunting
I wondered if anyone else noticed that. I bet it was an influence on Lip's arc
lips college thing and getting his shit together is the only bright side on shameless but that also went away
True. The show kept getting more and more depressing with no glimmer of good things for any of these kids in the future.
MrSidney9 That’s the point, these kids didn’t have a future because of Frank
@@walterayala682No…. they didn’t have a childhood because of Frank…. once they are adults they are the masters of their own destiny and yet they make decisions that only further put themselves into holes! You’d think after all they have witnessed they’d have a better understanding of what is right and wrong but no.
Whenever they make mistakes all they do is blame it on their rough childhoods and parents when that time has long passed and their scumbag parents are nowhere around!
Lip is my favorite character of all time, he helps me through things at time cuz we are very similar
"They didnt take you back, then you dont fuckin need them"
Ian Gallagher..
Ian was damn right. When there are other colleges to apply to
@Kelly McDaniel yea that transcript shii wild
-@@kellymcdaniel6620 - A degree is a degree, does not matter where it's from.
problem is other colleges will know why he was expelled
Other colleges do not take you if you have history of being expelled
Shiii man. Shameless is so god damn touching
"While I'm the supposed victim of Mr Gallagher's violent outburst, I'm also his most passionate advocate"
lmfaoo that was way too funny
ps i loved Youens so much
5:30 that is the moment Lip lost all faith in a system that he barely bought into to begin with. In was in that very moment that he realized he would never get out. If overturned, does he lead a better life path? Maybe. Not guaranteed, perhaps delaying the inevitable. But maybe it doesn't....maybe in that moment Lip could've really turned it around and actually have gotten out and lead a more successful life. I know it's just a TV show, but it makes you think. Major points in our lives are not dissimilar to what we see happen to Lip in this scene. Moments that ultimately decide where we'll end up...or not end up for that matter.
Its sad because his record has his incident on it so it would be hard for him to get in anywhere else.
Expulsion expulsion expulsion
Deserved. 6 seasons of drinking and he tries to kick fiona out for her one season of drinking.
There's more than one college in the entire city. I mean, which university you attend is actually quite meaningless if you get a mentor as prestigious as Professor Youens.
Exactly and he could have went to junior college
Poor Lip, I hope he learned from his failure.
I would throw it away too, He didnt even say sorry for what he did. All he said "he regret it". Shameless US is 3 best shows for me.
Professor youen's and lip relationship was gold.
I feel bad for lip, he tired so hard to get into college and help his family out as he did not want his future to end up like franks 😢
I disagree... he literally just coasted by in school because he was abnormally gifted and only went to college because Fiona and Mandy pretty much guilted him into it. He even got a full-ride scholarship but he threw it away because he lacked maturity and impulse control
He reluctantly went to college, couldn’t handle it, was planning on dropping out well before the cocaine incident with Liam and got himself expelled instead of seeking professional help for his alcoholism….. helping his family was hardly his priority!
@@carson11100right. He didnt want to be like his parents but didnt put in the work. It was only Fiona who tried the hardest thats why she had the better results. Lip was lazy and a shitty provider
That young woman seems like a caricature. The thought of feeling safe in public places is ludicrous. If it's going to happen, it will. Worrying doesn't change it.
Exactly! Safety isn’t a human right.
@@imonlyjustaholeerr what
When I first saw this scene and Lip went back to the meeting, I just knew that he won't be given a second chance to get back to the college.
Let's face it in the reality, not many colleges would give a second chance.
I can relate to this. I got academically dismissed my sophomore year of college because I failed my math and science class and they told me I can appeal it by giving them a good reason why I failed but when I did they told me they would only consider taking me back if I was sexually assaulted or almost killed because according to them those are the only good excuses for failing
@@taahirahbrown606 that is beyond disgusting….. what animals are running that college?
He could probably spend time at a community college and transfer to a university over time.
He deserved one more chance
What's the point of the hearing if they don't care about what he has to say in his defense? They still refused him because he attacked people/property so why bother bringing him in appeal ?
It’s not that they didn’t care about what he had to say…. his actions are just too severe to sway them to give him another chance…. he had sexual relations with a professor, destroyed property sober and drunk and tried to attack a professor…. He also refused to seek out professional help which shows he lacks perspective and I’m sure there is a good chunk of students who have come forth voicing concerns about him!
The fact he also tries to get back in after only 30 days of AA is also bad as it shows he’s overly confident and hasn’t considered the possibility of a relapse….. also he doesn’t seem too apologetic.
That student representative Lindsey Chen represents everything wrong with todays college campuses. She doesn't "feel safe" and suggested that he posed a risk as a potential school shooter.... Give me a break...
He smashed up vehicles and attacked people. Would you feel safe around someone like that? Lip does show the potential of becoming homocidal because of how violent his outbursts are. He could kill someone if hes drunk enough
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlI would keep him in school based off of his genuine apology, general demeanor and overall potential. And especially because of the heartfelt testimony of those who spoke up for him and defended his character. Kicking him out of college doesn’t fix anything and is only likely to cause more problems…
Don’t be such a weak and heartless coward. Be better.
@DrakeBrunette Have you not watched the show? This isn't the first time Lip has shown violent tendencies and certainly not the last. Let's just say they gave him a second chance, and he blows up again. The next outburst could result in someone dead or seriously injured. Are you really willing to risk the safety of others because you bought into a person's sob stories?
Lip has proven he cannot be trusted and he has no one to blame but himself.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlWell said. Just because you had it rough and an unfair childhood you have ZERO right to a free pass to destroy school property, assault people, drink like a fiend and only accept help after the damage has been done!
He deserved to be expelled and would’ve just screwed it all up again.
I love the storyline so much, if only they would let their actors keep their pants up and make it a family friendly series i would happily watch it
Fun fact: Alan Rosenberg was a classmate and close friend of Meryl Streep at Yale School of Drama.
Sometimes, being brilliant isnt enough
If I was Lip I would have threatened to sue. Tell them that his alcoholism stemmed from the sexual and emotional abuse he suffered from his female professor and that the school was aware of said teacher's relationship with multiple students throughout the years.
While Helene had a history of sexual encounters with students, Lip was the one who made the first move on her…..
That wouldnt fly sadly. Now if he were a minor, yeah that could work but he knew what he was getting into. She didnt sexually abuse him but she strung him along then dumped him
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED I haven't watched the show so this may be wrong, but just because he's of legal age doesn't mean there's no case. She's in a huge position of authority and power over him, and there's an argument to be made of her using that authority to force him into it.
@@RandomVideos-yz5qf she never forced him into anything. He went for her first actually
@@THEDOORIZCLOSEDThe public doesn’t know the details of their relationship. Due to the power imbalance, they view Lip as the victim. Plus they started the relationship when he was like 19, his maturity wasn’t exactly fully developed yet.
that look of resignation at 5:30 man… i’ve been there.
The student rep was the exact reference Lip made about rich kids not knowing their place and privilege
Privilege has nothing to do with it….. at school all are equal and no matter how bad your home life is you cannot use it as an excuse to damage property, attack people and drink uncontrollably…. The student rep has a right to express concerns over safety and I don’t care if she’s the daughter of the governor! No voice should be silenced!
@@carson11100fuck her voice. All students are not equal. That's why we have grades lmfao
@@carson11100 stfu. pple likke you would be literally the first one with neeedles in arm or start series of DUI in his situation. i know it, cuz i've been in Lip's slituation before. pple like you think you're above touchables and i wanna punch the living *hit out of that privilege out of your ass
@@carson11100 fuck you, you arrogant asshole.
I bet you look down on the poors dont you? I bet that you, stuck in your own sense of privilege and arrogance, view people like Lip as nothing more then violent trash.
Fuck you. No wonder the education system fails the most vulnerable, because of sociopaths like you who view people as just a reflection of their upbringing, money and circumstance.
It has everything to do with it you ignorant fuck.@@carson11100
honestly best series
i was wondering, if this guy lip, is such a big hot shot, why mourn over such a small loss, he's smart as hell, he's intelligent, TONS of other places would have wanted him even with his record...
im pretty sure he could have done great things without a degree, but thats why he brought up his dad. he didn't want to drop out and be like his dad
When one college/university expels you, they all do. They communicate and if you get expelled or have a black mark on the record you've lost your chance at getting any kind of degree at a place where it matters. Short of looking internationally Lip is fucked.
@whatever happened to that boy? they don't care if you've murdered someone they care about plagiarism. Which is pretty much the only way you get expelled from a university. Look it up I'm not joking
damn he shouldve gotten back in
Ok I'm gonna look this up right now but this dude better be the guy that plays the boss ferrenghi dude in ds9
Holy shit the brother is the actor of cal kestus in fallen order.... the face is sooo similar that my mind doesn’t know if the one in the show is even real!!
Ikr, when I started the game, took me like half an hour to realise where I recognized Cal from lol
Lip had such a good future ahead of him and the threw it all away cause of he’s got no common sense and being an alcoholic doesn’t help.
Gotta admit lip and frank are pretty fucking smart just make dumb Choices
Just hope Liam stays off the booze because he’s just as smart as them. Funny thing is that Lip and Liam are the only two kids confirmed to be Frank’s and they inherited his intelligence. Makes you wonder about the rest. Though I do think Fiona is Frank’s since she’s street smart, athletic, and an alcoholic like him.
Lip’s brother had just been diagnosed with Bipolar And. So his mother. Ian’s brother is an alcoholic and an addict. He takes what he pleases but it offers nothing no 💴 no support. I just wanted to give these kids they deserve everything because they are a great kids. And they deserve better. I wish. I could’ve done raising my siblings. I wish I could’ve done more
Does anyone know the name of the song at the end?
Hemming - Hard On Myself
Loved this episode!
Which episode is this ?
MEXTER DORGAN season 7 episode 8
I always feel so bad for Lip but he was his own worst enemy. As frank said in his letter at the end of his series. he has a brilliant mind that was the golden goose of his family that was meant for bigger and better things. but kept getting in his own way, through his anger, drinking or other factors. despite being happy with a wife and kid. we are still left wondering what could have been if didn't go on the path he went on.
Maybe if lip applied for other colleges, he could’ve had another shot
He should have went to community college too . His opportunity wasnt over he just gave up SMH. Hes a terrible provider as a man, made more kids while he wasnt even moving up in pay. Smh not smart at all
@@THEDOORIZCLOSEDLip is intelligent but he’s a horrible decision maker just like daddy
And he still f**ked it all up. 😢
"I don't miss the people who are so privileged that they don't even know how lucky they are."
Says the guy who got blessed with a brilliant mind but throws every chance to do something with it away.
People are products of their environment. Lip did fuck up to be sure, but his upbringing practically set him up to fail. Little miss four eyes worst day probably doesn’t even scratch some of the shit Lip had to deal with on a daily basis.
why does he throw every chance to do something with it away?
Lip was my least favorite character he was arrogant, thought he was better than everybody, made fun of Fiona for working at a diner where he washed dishes, he was the biggest moocher of them all using people for free stuff had a temper like a toddler when he didn’t get his way. When he threw his desk in the classroom window that was the moment I thought what a douche. Just cause he grew up in the hood doesn’t give him a right to destroy peoples properties. And end the end he ended up being the biggest loser of all the Gallaghers. He deserved not goth back to college. Was given so many opportunities. He treated Mandy like shit.
I absolutely adore lip but you're completely right. He was extremely ungrateful; always passing the blame onto others. He thought he was better than fiona, who sacrificed everything for her family since she was 9.
@@perturbedxtirade7428 the character I hated was Gus! The stupid idiot asks to marry Fiona after a week she’s honest with him tells him the truth she got with her ex he then treated her like a hoe. That’s his stupidity asking to get married after a week. It annoyed me how hard he tried to get involved in her life alll cause she had to act fast around other band members gf. Of course Gus took advantage of the opportunity he is such a douche. That song. If I were her I would have walked out before he finished. He’s the type that will be real nice but if it ends badly he wants to sabotage her life. Not sighing those papers knowing kids lived there. I hate his character so much I’d automatically not like him in any show or movie he plays in. I gagged when she crawled in bed with him & he just got on top of her like he’s making love. It’s impossible to be in love after a week. I loved it when Shawn proposed in front of him & he throws his stupid grandmas ring at him!!!
I like Lip but he made me mad as hell. HATED the way he treated Mandy and then they just wrote her off as a psycho who mentally impaired Karen and then graduated to become a sex worker. Liiiike…no. She had more potential then that she wanted to get out with Lip and then they just wrote her off😂😂😂 I liked Lip with Helene too but it was cut too short and they would have been cuter of they were exclusive, not her being married. Lots of potential for these characters and the show plummeted to horrible writing.
What season and episode, please?
theres no way they wouldnt let him back in they would do anything to swipe that sex with the teacher thing under the rug as a school especially as one of the most famous schools
imagine if that happened irl and if it was a male teacher and girl student, she would be leaving with a diploma and 10 million damage and suffering😅😂
I woulda walked put on the the first compliment, felt the "but" coming
they all ruin their lifes over relationships. fiona just throws away her house and everything because boo hoo the guy she dates has a wife (which isnt a surprise the guy has 5 kids and hangs with 10 of hus exes at all times for some reason) and lip throws it all away for the teacher (he coulda stayed with the asian girl which had her dad that couldve gotten lip into a good job in robotics which is all he cares about and had the girl that really loved him)
A real lawyer would have collected dirt on everyone in that panel before that meeting. That’s how you get in the doors.
Lawyers have no authority in a college hearing. Its not a court room.
Why did this show choose to fuck over Lip? The one bright star in the Gallagher family. The family should have had one kid make it out. Not just make another Frank.
Mogwai Man they probably wanted to make it realistic. i mean, yeah there's a chance you will make something out of your life even if your up bringing was shitty but more often than not you'll end up like Lip here, fucking up and missing out on opportunities
DeltroxTv it can be really upsetting, i got you there. it's like the more you try to pull yourself away from it the more you get dragged right back into it. i guess it must feel so fucking ridiculous to lip, and you, that you know everything that's wrong with what your dad is doing and you hate him for it but then you're not any better and hate yourself as well. i have that too, sometimes i catch myself acting exactly like my parents and it alienates me from myself and i would rather jump right out of my skin because i feel so gross, i see what has become of them and i feel like if i continue acting like them i will head right into the same path. that's why i really like pretending i'm someone else, it might make me unoriginal but at least it's better than being like them! lol
Carl made it out and Debbie sort of did as well bc she ends up owning her own business and moving out. Her choice in partner is trash tho. Carl becomes a police officer and helps preserve the Alibi. Fiona also sort of makes it out after she sells the laundry place for six figures and moves out to find herself. The losers are Ian and Lip
@@3brendan933and then the scary part is u find out that when you think youre acting like someone else, youre actually behaving like a grandparent or great grandparent. I hate genetics
Lip aways get in this on the way
It’s crazy how addiction and mental health disorders screwed up the oldest Gallagher kids from having success. Alcoholism got Lip kicked from college and screwed Fiona in her business decisions. Meanwhile a bipolar episode made Ian into a felon and unable to continue being an EMT. At least Carl turned his life around and Liam still has a chance like Lip originally did. And Debbie is just Monica 2.0 except is a shit person without a disorder or addiction.
should've went to another school. honestly shameless went to shit after season 6 imo. after lip left college the show just kinda dragged and became boring. i think part of it is just being able to relate as a college kid.
Agreed agreed AGREED.
Sucks to be him
Yea especially since it is on his transcript, his academic career is FUCKED. BOOM DONE
what episode is this?
This shows you can’t bullshit your way out of situations in real life. Talk is cheap. DENIED
Ya, an just like real life a bunch of silver spoon fed assholes arrogantly judging those they see as beneath them.
This is Shameless? The original British version is far more anarchic . This seems rather sentimental.
That show is beyond anarchic, trust me.
what's the final scene song?
enrico hard on myself
show was an emotional roller coaster of ups and downs, i wonder what it will be like without Fiona she was the glue that held the family together but in the last couple seasons seemed to not give a shit about them.
Fiona was trash and is what brought the family down . Lip was the glue. When he went to college is when it all fell apart cause the only sane one ...wasn't there.
@@TheGodfather-bm3ow i never liked Fiona bc even she realized she was a terrible influence on Debbie which is why Debbie ended up pregnant. She wasnt all bad and neither was Lip but Lip was definitely lazy as hell and had to be steered to go to college. Fiona had the drive, Lip had the smarts. They were strong together and didnt realize it. Debbie was also smart bit got lost trying to keep up with Fiona’s sleazy behavior (SAD!). The only ones with a decent future are Carl and Liam. Carl was off to himself and wasnt too influenced by the ridiculousness of the other family members and and Liam was the same way
I hate this scene...Lip deserved a 2nd chance. Students who have done worse shit with a fraction of the potential get off because they have money or because they happened to be born into family with status
You can't break stuff and beat on people. The way things went he didn't deserve the first chance.
A lot of you are talking crap about the student representative and others that expelled Lip mainly because you've followed his story and like his character but he absolutely deserved to be kicked out. He made his own bed.
It was a mistake at what 20 years old bloody hell
@@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335 Plenty old enough to know not to be violent or act like a drunken idiot in school
The student representative can eat shit
@@jamesyount2423 Sounds like you are in love with the Asian girl.
@@Yoyobb409 fr tho
Alcoholism is so real.. :(
Yea people feel for Fiona but lip had it the worse don’t get me wrong he’s made mistakes but that was his only shot out as we seen
I'm not sure Lindsey Chan feels safe anywhere tbh
Haha I dont get why invite him back just to follow through with the expulsion. Send the kid an email.
Personally at some point, I stopped feeling sorry for Lip. He kept getting himself in bad situations. And instead of owning up to it he blamed everyone else for it.
This was the last good season.
Couldve went to another college
Lip might be brilliant but he has no control about himself. He gives into every desire anc impulse. If they would have taken him back, he would be sitting there a weak later, again for something else.
@@shenanigansone8172 I don't get why people have to turn everything into a race issue. If he is white you claim he wasn't given a second chance because he is white. If he would be black people would claim he wasn't given a second chance because he is black. 🙄 It's just absurd to me. If you have no proof of racism, don't go there with your accusations.
But to answer your question, people are sitting in prison for less than destroying cars with a sledgehammer. And they don't get access to one of the best colleges in the world. They just get access to state colleges. I am sure lip could go there too, but why would you think he deserves a second chance to go to one of the best universities in the world when a thousand others are waiting for that chance? Would you be so eager to give him a second chance and ridicule the idea of keeping the campus safe, if someone would have destroyed your car with a sledgehammer?
I got tired of this show. It's the same shit again and again. Sex, violence, drugs, alcohol, marriage, hospitalised, in a constant loop! Gave up after watching season 6. I like watching Porn and sex but in this show, I got fed up of characters having sex and changing partner right and left. I only like the first 3-4 seasons. Rest is the same damn shit with a little tweak.
rai x: i agree seasons 5- and after are meaningless
I agree. In the earlier season most of the sex scenes were shot in a way where it wasn’t the entire focus of the scene. It was shot up close, messy, unappealing, and realistic.
It was made to show us, the viewers, how rough their environment was.
Later seasons is a stark contrast to that, with the camera giving a full view on the scene, showing off the actress’ bodies in a way where it’s almost appealing to the viewer.
TLDR: it was used to give a narrative in the earlier seasons and it was used to appeal to the audiences in the later seasons
Saaaaame! I like this till season 5 or 6. But that Frank+Bianca plot was irritating and dry. They should have explored the Lip+Helene situation and tie that into a complex with Monica bc all of Lips relationships where he flipped shit or got obsessed with was with blonde women like his mother. Fiona was intimidated by Steve bc she was used to “Frank.” They should have explored how as the kids grew, they try to not be like their parents bit instead like y’all saying they just switched significant others and the writing became so weak and it was all ab sex and porn like what the hell. The show could have had a powerful plot ab mental illness and genetics and it just fell off. Then the political propaganda started around season 7 and its like OH NOW YOU WANT TO BE SERIOUS? Too late, bc they sacrificed character development for propaganda and it was a frustrating waste of time to get through all 11 seasons
I feel bad for her.
Why? She was the one who used him like a sex toy and got her jollies by dominating him emotionally.
This is when I stopped watching the show
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Im a believer in second chances, however I am certain he would’ve just screwed it all up again even if they gave him another chance. He’s too damn arrogant, selfish, damaged, short-sighted and reckless.
As an educator it bothers me how many people in these comments consider Lip a sympathetic, blameless victim while calling that student representative a villain for feeling unsafe around him and apparently wanting to bar him solely because he’s “poor”, and from the south-side. People like to ignore the fact that he was a violent, destructive alcoholic who refused to accept help and went on a rampage.
He knows damn well what he did and his poor upbringing is no excuse and should not grant him or anyone like him in reality a free pass to damage and dilute a learning environment!
I hope you make some mistakes in your life and people react in the same you do, screw people like you
Uk version is a classic over here :)
nah nigga
NullRootix Uk is nothing compared to the USA on any term
@@MidconStudios what an ameritard, is that why you rip off all of our shows you unoriginal hacks, your country is crumbling and is run by an orange cheeto.
@@courtneyclark1215 Yea America takes UK tv shows, and makes them popular not just in the U.S. but across the globe. And bitch please, I don't know how you can say the US is crumbling with your little situation.
@@deprogramm yeah sorry, but Brexit isn't a human rights violation. The US has pulled out of the UN human rights council, blatantly slandered other cultures, has had school shootings every other fucking day and makes literally zero effort at sustainability through the huge fucking cars that we drive. I'm an American (and love both Shameless vesions) but we're kinda the fucking worst. Brexit is stupid, but it sure ain't America stupid.
This show went dramatically downhill after season 5
It sucks him rejected from a second chance getting back into college but he did sleep with a professor and he thought it was something else he may be smart at what he is majored in but in feelings for someone who is married twice his age and with a kid also in crimes he hits people destroys public and private property hacking in to the system and drugs I wound not feel safe ether with him on campus
It's not the job of the university to make you FEEL safe. Their job is to educate You and making sure that you ARE safe to make your education possible. See the difference?
@@MrSidney9 Lol what? You’re suppose to feel safe at school. Whether it’s university, high school it doesn’t matter.
@@theman6705 lip was to god damn smart that’s his problem he needed someone to guide him never know maybe that second chance was that 1 doe one’s own good can be his enemy in this case it was lip Genius I’m only on season 4 where he gets accepted to mit so now ik all this but shameless looks like it could b better lip should b star easily
@@MrSidney9 ridiculous comment. Of course you are meant to be safe at any educational institution you have paid to attend
Jesus Christ is our savior!
Hiii
What.
deception
Can Lip not start over? No transcripts at another school? Or is he forced to show the incident to everyone?
Also isnt letting the students run the school like letting lower workers run your job? There is a hierarchy for a reason and college students can be some of the most ignorant and arrogant people on this planet. College breeds ego for a good reason but they forget to keep it in check as well.
@Mr. Man So how does it work? Does the school send a memo to every other school? Or is it one big data base?
He could do it but it'd probably be the greatest personal challenge he'll ever face, and then after getting enrolled again he'll have to finish school this time. I hope if the show ends by showing where the characters end up as a sort of epilogue, I hope we see Lip in school again working his ass off
@@radhummingbird97im from the future here to tell u some bad news😬
Kinda fucking hate how he ends up working at Amazon but realistically accurate
I thought he still works on the bikes with Brad? He applied to Amazon but Brad said there was another opportunity with bikes iirc.
Or maybe he makes sandwiches at his brothers shop and is currently stuck in a freezer idk
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED lol love the time jump 🤣 hate the Bear
@@sosalavey9363 awwww nooo! Why do u hate The Bear? I love that show! Respect your opinion tho👍🏽
Lip wanted to go apeshit on the board members 😂😂😂
If I was sitting there, I would tell her sweetheart. How old are you? You’re like 20 years old what the hell do you know about life?