The acting Emmy Rossum performs in that moment, her face goes from "OH MY GOD! He told me!" to "Thank you for telling me!" to her then "I know." all in just a few seconds.
wholeheartedly agree. kind of annoying after S3 where everyone just starts hating fiona especially debbie when she was pregnant 🙄🙄 they all had zero respect for her
Yeah that’s usually how popular shows these days are. They start out crazy and things can only get crazier which makes things go from fairly relatable to totally unhinged and far left.
@@plushiepeeps3460I mean despite being their sister Fiona is more of a mother than their biological mother was to them so yeah definitely a mother thing in the way she responded to Ian.
If only people would realise how hard and difficult it is for a young boy to actually say the words IM GAY ,, I’m remember when I had to say it ,,, years of hiding it and scared even suicidal over excepting im gay, and everyone finding out. It’s terrifying.❤
What are you talking about..? People literally celebrate and worship anyone who comes out as part of the ‘alphabet community’ You people are the most protected and propped up people in society nowadays.. Get over yourself..
@@finnstewart4747 that happened to me too LMAO I said it when my parents were trying to drop me off at my school (I was in secondary at the time) but they misheard me and assumed I was trying to say something so I could stay home so my dad basically kicked me out of the car right after I’d come out
It’s crazy how many people from shameless became massive in the past few years, Cameron has a Star Wars game series and was essentially the joker of a dc show called “Gotham”, Jeremy Allen White being the lead of an Emmy winning tv show and others being very successful too.
@@dundundun2383Fiona did her best and honestly I’m surprised it took her as long as it did to actually crumble but she got her act together in the end and left her UNGRATEFUL ass sibling’s even though they made amends. Debbie on the other hand. I don’t even know.
That "you're still on my shit list" line is one of the best things she could have said. It shows Ian that nothing changes between them and she'll still love him like always and treat him the same. That's what i was afraid of when i started coming out, that people would start seeing me and treating me differently than before. Thankfully it didn't change anything for the people closest to me.
I hated Jimmy in this episode. This scene of him getting an ultimatum was his own doing, and he tried to get Fiona to leave with him for his own selfish reasons.
@@DVDTAPEAFKs He always seemed too pushy and not understanding of her situation to me. He wanted her to be with him but she still had everyone to care for at the time.
You forgot he was a gay virgin. His attachment to Fiona was due to losing his V card to her. But yea she didn't fully love him which was good because he would have had lost his job hanging with them
I normally never liked shows like this with characters that act trashy. From the first season to the last episode was one of the best family shows I ever sow
Worst part of show was watching fiona eventually give up and become just like the people she hated... went from smoking hot and had goals to ugly addict and alcoholic real fast.. it was rough. Glad she got out eventually
Man this is why I can't watch shows like this. They just make me hate people even more. Those kids futures were worth season tickets to him, like they aren't even human.
Why? She was just telling him that she already knew and that she was just waiting till he was ready to tell her. There's nothing wrong with that at all. She never tried pushing him to tell her. Instead, she was waiting on his timetable when he was comfortable to tell her.
@dancerkris95 I've seen it too much and it's just condescending for someone who doesn't know to be typecast. I've seen people be called gy and it makes them not want to be gy and therefore they don't figure out their identity til later
Saying i know or knew is the shittiest thing you can say to that person at that moment. Im speaking from experience. Even if it was obvious in neon blinking fucking lights say anything but that because it pulls the rug out of that persons past they are standing on the edge of a new future don't remove their past.
I think it’s a totally fine thing to say, but it can depend a lot on the person. Saying “I know” can be really meaningful to a lot of people, it normalizes it a lot, it can make it a lot more casual, and it lets them know that you still love and care about them because you knew this whole time and it didn’t change anything between the two of you.
Not really it depends on the person for some people that’s one of the best things you can say for some it’s the worst you can’t really generalise it and tell people what they should or shouldn’t say when someone comes out to them because if someone’s coming out to you then you probably know the person enough to have a better sense of how to respond to that in real life
Well it's not supposed to be a Perfect environment. And don't generalise like that. It depends, I know get slightly offended (unfortunately) when somebody's like "called it" but if it was my mom (she practically is)(how much would I give to get similar reaction from mine) I think it would mean a lot. That she knows me well even without straight-forward communication, pays attention. That would mean a lot I think. But also I know that for some people that's an major offence
@@KevinChantal it is not a sin. Your Cristian god does not exist. You have no right today dictate anybody else's life. Not even your children. If you have them and ine of them comes out give them support cus most end up commuting suicide without parental support. They don't have a choice of whome they love. Remember according to your bible god made everyone in his image. Oh and the second council of nicea 219 AD declared any part of the old testament conflicting with the new to be invalid. Did gospel of Jesus not talk about loving all and not passing judgment
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 It is a sin. And yes god does exist. Yes I have no right today dictate anybody elses life but guess who has the right: GOD. In regards to my children : Unofortunately one of them did come out. He is no longer part of our family. Its very sad but I gave him a choice. Next thing : I dont care about the council in Nicea when it contradicts the bible. Everything in the bible is valid old and new testament. And yes Jesus wants us to love each other that why I speak out when somebody has a sinful lifestyle. I dont want them to be lost. I want them to return to our Lord and Saviour. Thats real love.
@@KevinChantal no it does not. If christs words conflict with abrahams who'se word comes on top. You do know that they DON'T have a choice. Your religion says love all and judge not. Oh and science has proven that nearly every thing said is false. Oh and having cheese for ith beef is also a sin btw.
I’d tell him “I still love you” but I’d explain why I can’t support it, because it will harm his body, mind, and soul, and that’s not true love to support a sin that will hurt you. A lifestyle like that will cause cancer, and these attractions are only caused by trauma in the first place. But these people are told they’re “born that way” so they think they’re stuck with it. But no one ever tells them there are “former” gays, people who’ve shared their stories of healing and change and now no longer struggle with these feelings.
Well, luckily for real people and for this fictionalized TV person, you don't run their life. You don't know them and you are not the maker of the universe. Your opinion is jut that. And imo it's a bad one.
@@chuckrussell-coons5866 The Maker of the universe is the One who said it is unnatural and a distortion of creation. And He always has a reason for telling us not to do things, besides the harmful affects to mind and soul, there are the physical aspects such as AIDs, anal warts, genital cancer, HIV, ect. The body doesn't even treat it as normal. If you;d like more information on the origin of such attractions, look up the video 'Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Answers Your Questions'
“ you’re still on my shit list” translation, “it doesn’t change anything”
Which is the only thing a closeted person could ever ask for coming out I’m sure.
@@SamUHells it's *the* best thing to hear -- coming out to family is the scariest thing ever
she knew…she was just waiting for him to tell her. fiona was and still is their mother.
Like.. literally she’s their mother?? I just started the show is this like the Venture Brothers? Did frank bang this girl?
@@Sour_Soap no frank didn’t bang her. she was forced to raise all her siblings because frank is an alcoholic drug addict and the mom ran off.
@@Sour_Soapshe’s frank’s daughter and their older sister but had to take on a parental role at a very young age
@@Sour_Soapshameless is honestly the only show I can understand why’d you think something like that 😂
@@Sour_Soapit’s literally so obvious in the show are you ok? Lmao
The acting Emmy Rossum performs in that moment, her face goes from "OH MY GOD! He told me!" to "Thank you for telling me!" to her then "I know." all in just a few seconds.
I miss these early episodes when they seemed to genuinely like each other and were happy to be around each other
wholeheartedly agree. kind of annoying after S3 where everyone just starts hating fiona especially debbie when she was pregnant 🙄🙄 they all had zero respect for her
Yeah that’s usually how popular shows these days are. They start out crazy and things can only get crazier which makes things go from fairly relatable to totally unhinged and far left.
Exactly what happened to Family Guy
@@justinmoody9164nah u tripping, first seasons of family guy are cringe asf, the jokes seem like they were written by a bunch of 8 year olds
@@masonf7332Family Guy was always cringy.
What a mother kind of thing to say “I know” my mom said the same thing when my sister came out
Well Fiona is his sister, not his mother. I know she acts like there mom but it’s his sister so I kinda get how she would say that.
@@plushiepeeps3460I mean despite being their sister Fiona is more of a mother than their biological mother was to them so yeah definitely a mother thing in the way she responded to Ian.
Told my son, "Oh, ok." when he came out to me. He totally confirmed what I already suspected.
@@madamejenkins86 This is sweet ❤️
@@plushiepeeps3460 She definitely had to play that role being the eldest especially since their parents didn’t.
I wish I was as optimistic as the cop who thinks the bears are going to make the playoffs.
LMAO
Well S1 was in 2011, they were freshly removed from an NFC championship appearance.
“He’s mute” HELP
I love how chill that scene is of Ian telling Fiona
“You guys see my dad in there?” I love Kevin 😂😂😂
Such an amazing character lol 💙
If only people would realise how hard and difficult it is for a young boy to actually say the words IM GAY ,, I’m remember when I had to say it ,,, years of hiding it and scared even suicidal over excepting im gay, and everyone finding out. It’s terrifying.❤
I hope you find yourself in an accepting place now and feel safe being who you are x
What are you talking about..? People literally celebrate and worship anyone who comes out as part of the ‘alphabet community’ You people are the most protected and propped up people in society nowadays.. Get over yourself..
Growing up in rural ignorant racist Indiana made it a challenge. Add to that being a Bears fan all these years….
I remember chain smoking outside, trying to get the balls to tell my parents. The worst part was when my dad didn't hear me and I had to say it again.
@@finnstewart4747 that happened to me too LMAO I said it when my parents were trying to drop me off at my school (I was in secondary at the time) but they misheard me and assumed I was trying to say something so I could stay home so my dad basically kicked me out of the car right after I’d come out
It’s crazy how many people from shameless became massive in the past few years, Cameron has a Star Wars game series and was essentially the joker of a dc show called “Gotham”, Jeremy Allen White being the lead of an Emmy winning tv show and others being very successful too.
The joker, twice.
British Ian: “I’m gay.”
British Fiona: “…I-I still love you.”
American Ian: “I’m gay.”
American Fiona: “I know. lol”
the American Fiona response feels more authentic and like her character tbh
They did Fiona SO fucking dirty in later seasons
She and Debbie both went from amazing to irresponsible and annoying characters
@@dundundun2383Fiona did her best and honestly I’m surprised it took her as long as it did to actually crumble but she got her act together in the end and left her UNGRATEFUL ass sibling’s even though they made amends. Debbie on the other hand. I don’t even know.
Agreed
The cop thinking the Bears would go to the playoffs is top tier comedy.
That "you're still on my shit list" line is one of the best things she could have said. It shows Ian that nothing changes between them and she'll still love him like always and treat him the same.
That's what i was afraid of when i started coming out, that people would start seeing me and treating me differently than before. Thankfully it didn't change anything for the people closest to me.
Season 1 shameless was so good
One of the best shows of all time.
One was special. Two and three were pretty good. After that it went downhill.
Ian comes out as jedi
😂
“you’re still on my shit list” = “i don’t really gaf i love you”
Wow. I forgot how young they looked
They were just babies
One of the best moments of the entire show 🥺🥺
I hated Jimmy in this episode. This scene of him getting an ultimatum was his own doing, and he tried to get Fiona to leave with him for his own selfish reasons.
I never liked him
@@FacebookQueen He had potential, but he chose to get into problems.
Honestly, the best guy Fiona dated was that office dude.
@@DVDTAPEAFKs He always seemed too pushy and not understanding of her situation to me. He wanted her to be with him but she still had everyone to care for at the time.
@@FacebookQueen I can say they were both bad at relationships.
The police guy would have been perfect for Fiona. But she didn’t love him. Or more correctly she wasn’t able to love him.
And he’s gay.
You forgot he was a gay virgin. His attachment to Fiona was due to losing his V card to her. But yea she didn't fully love him which was good because he would have had lost his job hanging with them
@@rookbishop7822
He wasn’t gay! lol 😂
@@B-Dad when Ian met him again. He said his sister turned him gay 😂 it was when Ian met the firefighter
@@rookbishop7822
I don’t remember that. But it seems like a later season joke.
That smile on his face when he asked preseason and playoffs. He knew the Bears definitely weren’t getting in the playoffs. 😂
Pre season and playoffs? That’s his whole salary
He prolly got jimmy to help out
@@Sky-BananasBears didn’t make the playoffs that year at least
Fiona absolutely didn’t deserve that cop guy
The most far fetched part of this clip is that anyone would add preseason tickets in as a demand. 😂
Omg. Ian was so cute as a kid. Hard to believe how much he went through later
I loved Emmy Rossum as Fiona.
The early seasons were such high quality.
THATS SO FUCKING RANDOM LMFAO
love how they are still posting shameless ❤
Bro when he said I’m gay I accidentally hit my nose with my AirPods
One Of My All Time Favorite TV Shows
Lmao Vera from Cold Case. I knew he looked familiar when I first saw this. I’ve been rewatching CC
Damn, when's he gonna tell Merrin?
I'd forgotten how young (and cute) Ian was at the beginning of the series.
Damn didn't know when did Goku started stealing cars😂😂😂
It’s for us, she knew that. ❤
how does it go from him stealing a car being in jail to him coming out
IKR! this show was very fast paced. but I guess that’s Chicago for ya🤣
Carl is cute when he was kid 😊😊
So creepy
Bruh they probably meant it in an innocent way, u r the weirdo@@NickBurns-ey6od
@@The_Black_Caps keyword is probably
I haven't seen this show but I'm glad one of my favorite actors is playing pretty much the same guy as he plays in Cold Case
Ok, time for a rewatch
I think that is the best responds...
Didn’t know Cal Kestis and Carmy Berzetto played together in Shameless. Never saw the show.
The biggest plot twist was the cop coming out as gay in the later seasons😂
Happy pride to all the straight actors who slayed a gay role
Bears playoff tickets lol.
The early seasons of shameless had a much nicer vibe to them
Tony was underrated one of my favorite characters
that’s what my older brother told me when i came out as bi lol
“He’s mute”
Same cop actor from cold case files
Also in the always sunny episode the Maurine Pondarosa Wedding Massacre
I thought he was familiar...
Goku really loved Bulma. So Sad.
Long story short she knew
Playoff Bears tickets?? Cmon man I got hope too but lets be realistic here
Oh Fiona is the best big sister ever
He looks pretty shameful
Back then when shameless writers actually wrote good stuffs
I wish I could come out
Fiona is the oldest of Frank's children
Lol playoffs
I normally never liked shows like this with characters that act trashy. From the first season to the last episode was one of the best family shows I ever sow
I always loved Tony
Is that the dude from cold case?
I eish fiona got and stayed with the cop
I love this because even if your family loves you and they are fine with gay people, it is still scary.
Love Fiona season 1. Also Frank sucked in literally EVERY way possible, but hey he was cool with Ian being gay.
Vera from Cold Case
Fiona not recognizing a good thing if it bit her ass.
Still didn't know by season 9
Worst part of show was watching fiona eventually give up and become just like the people she hated... went from smoking hot and had goals to ugly addict and alcoholic real fast.. it was rough. Glad she got out eventually
Its vera from cold case
this guy knows ball
where do i watch this show?
On prime video
Netflix
Netflix prime and hulu
You guys need to watch the UK version, the one this was patterned after.
Blows this away.
😂😂😂😂More like a parody made by a 12 yo director
Does it really i was planning on watching the UK version
Nah, I'm British so watched the uk version first. The US version is a million percent better though.
The British version sucks compared to the American version.
I watched both and the American ver feels very authentic
after Fiona left I stopped watching. she was the soul of this show
Fine, I’ll watch shameless again…
Yo! they got Goku in this?
Man this is why I can't watch shows like this. They just make me hate people even more. Those kids futures were worth season tickets to him, like they aren't even human.
Going to jail would have been better for their future???
I hate the "I know" thing. I really hate that
Why? She was just telling him that she already knew and that she was just waiting till he was ready to tell her. There's nothing wrong with that at all. She never tried pushing him to tell her. Instead, she was waiting on his timetable when he was comfortable to tell her.
Your parents definitely knew lol
@@Cutedogs-mn5nv bruh
@dancerkris95 I've seen it too much and it's just condescending for someone who doesn't know to be typecast. I've seen people be called gy and it makes them not want to be gy and therefore they don't figure out their identity til later
The I know thing doesn't make sense when hmphobc parents exist.
Debbie s1-2😊
Debbie s3-11 🫡
Playoffs? Lol like the bears would make it to the playoffs!
Fiona is so amazing. She gets so much shit
Younger ian
Tony was so hot.
Cared about Steve stolen cars but not sex and drug addicts cocaine...
Saying i know or knew is the shittiest thing you can say to that person at that moment. Im speaking from experience. Even if it was obvious in neon blinking fucking lights say anything but that because it pulls the rug out of that persons past they are standing on the edge of a new future don't remove their past.
I think it’s a totally fine thing to say, but it can depend a lot on the person. Saying “I know” can be really meaningful to a lot of people, it normalizes it a lot, it can make it a lot more casual, and it lets them know that you still love and care about them because you knew this whole time and it didn’t change anything between the two of you.
Not really it depends on the person for some people that’s one of the best things you can say for some it’s the worst you can’t really generalise it and tell people what they should or shouldn’t say when someone comes out to them because if someone’s coming out to you then you probably know the person enough to have a better sense of how to respond to that in real life
Well it's not supposed to be a Perfect environment. And don't generalise like that. It depends, I know get slightly offended (unfortunately) when somebody's like "called it" but if it was my mom (she practically is)(how much would I give to get similar reaction from mine) I think it would mean a lot. That she knows me well even without straight-forward communication, pays attention. That would mean a lot I think. But also I know that for some people that's an major offence
If your past is a lie, maybe you should be informed about that
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer- What does that mean? Do you think the kid didn't know that he was in the closet?
British and original Shameless is far better.
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Pff playoffs.
Fiona didn’t deserve him anyways
Not a patch on the original Shameless
I suppose you Americans think this was the original program
Nope it was not
Cheers have a great day
Yeah, because after 13 years, we had no idea!
Dumbass...
everyone knows the UK version is original it’s just that the american one is relatable to more people has a larger audience
Y’all don’t have guns, of course our version is gonna be better
Ahh when Fiona was still likeable and human
she was always likeable and human what
@@dumbcat.6668 ahaha no. 😆 serial cheater =/= a likeable human in my book.
Or any decent person's book.
@@SlashAndInkOfCrimson in that case no character in shameless is likeable
@@SlashAndInkOfCrimson “serial cheater” she cheated on 3 people
@@dumbcat.6668 sounds like you're just protecting about your own behavior 😬 yikes. Nah if you cheat on people you're not a human.
Try the british original. Far better
The moment I started to dislike Ian.
Why
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 Because of his sinful lifestyle.
@@KevinChantal it is not a sin. Your Cristian god does not exist. You have no right today dictate anybody else's life. Not even your children. If you have them and ine of them comes out give them support cus most end up commuting suicide without parental support. They don't have a choice of whome they love. Remember according to your bible god made everyone in his image. Oh and the second council of nicea 219 AD declared any part of the old testament conflicting with the new to be invalid. Did gospel of Jesus not talk about loving all and not passing judgment
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 It is a sin. And yes god does exist. Yes I have no right today dictate anybody elses life but guess who has the right: GOD. In regards to my children : Unofortunately one of them did come out. He is no longer part of our family. Its very sad but I gave him a choice. Next thing : I dont care about the council in Nicea when it contradicts the bible. Everything in the bible is valid old and new testament.
And yes Jesus wants us to love each other that why I speak out when somebody has a sinful lifestyle. I dont want them to be lost. I want them to return to our Lord and Saviour. Thats real love.
@@KevinChantal no it does not. If christs words conflict with abrahams who'se word comes on top. You do know that they DON'T have a choice. Your religion says love all and judge not. Oh and science has proven that nearly every thing said is false. Oh and having cheese for ith beef is also a sin btw.
I’d tell him “I still love you” but I’d explain why I can’t support it, because it will harm his body, mind, and soul, and that’s not true love to support a sin that will hurt you.
A lifestyle like that will cause cancer, and these attractions are only caused by trauma in the first place. But these people are told they’re “born that way” so they think they’re stuck with it. But no one ever tells them there are “former” gays, people who’ve shared their stories of healing and change and now no longer struggle with these feelings.
You’re out of your mind lmao! Happy pride month
@@JW-pu1uk Love you too, but nope, i'm just speaking the truth.
Seek help
Well, luckily for real people and for this fictionalized TV person, you don't run their life. You don't know them and you are not the maker of the universe. Your opinion is jut that. And imo it's a bad one.
@@chuckrussell-coons5866 The Maker of the universe is the One who said it is unnatural and a distortion of creation.
And He always has a reason for telling us not to do things, besides the harmful affects to mind and soul, there are the physical aspects such as AIDs, anal warts, genital cancer, HIV, ect. The body doesn't even treat it as normal. If you;d like more information on the origin of such attractions, look up the video 'Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Answers Your Questions'