I’ve seen like 10 other videos of this synth today and yours was by far the best for me. It brought me as close to the instrument as could get without playing it for myself. Thank u.
Great video! I returned my Moog One after 30 days of use. The One sounds OK, but just didn't do it for me, not to mention that I disliked the noisy fan. I just ordered the Muse, as I am really loving the demos that I'm hearing so far. For the price, I'm really liking what you get with the Muse and am hoping that it will give me the "Mooginess" that I did like with the Moog One, but without the loud fan and the insane price.
Excellent video! Thank you. It gives you a real feeling for what the synth sounds like and what it is capable of. I am always amazed when people say: Well, nothing my XY cannot do. In this video you should be able to hear what it cannot do: sound like this so effortlessly! Just one oscillator, saw wave, unison, detune, filter ... and you got an earth shaking, lively bass sound. Unfortunately, Moog messed up distribution in Germany and I have been waiting for mine for 2 months now, and it will not be delivered before end of November. So, grateful for this video which makes me anticipate the synth even more joyfully!
Right of the bat, the INIT patch gives you so much to work with, the fact that you have to dial Back and filter it to carve a rich sound is a strong point people seem to miss about this synth. Arturia hasn’t give me that on the Matrixbrute nor the polybrute, and anyone picking it are fooling themselves because they are mostly not real players, they just convence themselves that having poly aftertouch is what they need to sound better, but without rich base sound (oscillators and filter) you won’t get there. I Love this Review ❤
I find your Prophet comparison agreeable. As I'm listening to so many reviews of The Muse, I can't help but hear so many of the same beautiful Horn Sounds coming from my Prophet 08 (the predecessor to the REV 2 which everybody loves, and I personally find to be a little too bathed in digital EFX, while the 08 is just Analog to a T). Anyway, I find the Horn Sounds on the Muse SO COMPARABLE to those coming from the 08, which is about a third of the price of a Muse. However, Muse wins out when it comes to the Low End Grumbling and Roaring, thanks to it's Ladder Filters! However, the 08 has it's own kind of Low End character, which I'd describe as more Creamy, and Smooth. If someone has BOTH of these synths, I think a Blind Comparison between each would yield interesting results!
Great demo, glad i stumbled across this video! I finally feel like I know what the Muse sounds like now. My only question left after watching this is: Is the delay modulatable?
An MPE compatible module with effects would be a dream. I don't think this price is abusive. It's at least in line with sequential. I don't think I will wait that long though. Almost pulling the trigger on a trigon 6
apologies for the delayed reply, unfortunately we still dont have a concrete ETA, hopefully we'll find out in the next week. but we've managed to secure demo units for most stores now - pop in and give it a try if you can 🙂
Great demo. I'll be sticking with my Moog One for now, as this is still a downgrade to the One. But I can understand if someone else sells their One for the Muse. It seems to be more for players than synth patch creators. Not having polyphonic aftertouch is still wild to me. And I agree with someone else in the comments of other videos; it sounds more like a Jupiter 8 than a Moog. Which isn't bad. Unless you view it as a bad thing.
Hadnt seen the Jupiter 8 comparisons, I guess a very clean patch with no overload at the mixer could sound reminiscent of a Jupiter, as soon as you bring that overload in though it's far heftier than anything i've heard from a Jupiter, huge bottom end. Poly aftertouch would have been very cool, but can't win em all! -Mike
@JewelsFin I feel ya, it does feel more for players, not that that's a bad thing. I own a One, it's my only Poly too haha. I find myself conflicted about it, they've fixed somethings I dislike about the One which for me, its really only the fan and the lack of overdrive making some mono sounds feel a little weak without unison. Outside of using it as a modulation source - I don't care two hoots about the sequencer or new arp, when I noodle stuff I noodle it into my daw then loop it back (or on the moogs sequencer when Im mucking around.) Seems like they could add a vast chunk of this stuff to the one via a firmware update but I doubt they would. (Although if they keep it on market with the insane new prices they should imo.) But on the flip side as you said, there's a big downgrade about it too, I'd miss the layers, I'd miss extra LFOs, the extra mod evelopes, the effects, so on. At least for now, I don't think I'd sell the One and get a muse... But if my One ever broke down or I needed to move and sell it for whatever reason - I'd probably get a Muse, and even then I'd miss things about the One.
Sounds more vintage Moog-y than The One … How is that a downgrade? Do you mean all the bells & whistles? Polybrute has bells & whistles … but then, its raw sound is liable to be confused with a Hybrid (but at a VCO price!)
One is incredibly feature strong which is very useful when you build patches. 4 LFOs, 16 VCOs, very flexible FXs, incredibly powerful mod matrix. 3(!) filters with tons of settings, very smart UI, unlimited patches etc. Muse can still make sounds One cannot, that is always interesting. Muse has a cool base sound for example. It feels like it competes with Prophet 10 and OB X8 etc.
Great you actually are programming this amazing sounding synths. I'm sure if there wasn't already an instrument called P440 Sweetspot (Pulsar Modular), Moog for sure would have named their new synthesizer SWEETSPOT instead of MUSE.
Instant classic. And it is its own thing ; not a re-issue like most recent polys, and a fat analogue sound unlike some impressive but very digital other synths. I can only think of Taiga as being in that league, although it's not a massive poly like this one. Makes me wonder if Moog will let go of the One, given this thing is damn close and a fraction of the price.
I think I will be grabbing one. for ME, its missing a couple of things. a 3rd dedicated modulation envelope, dedicated reverb as well as delay (i use both together a LOT) - and ideally poly AT and 12 rather than 8 voices (though the latter isnt a big one really). BUT I dont have a Moog, it will complement my 3W and sequential 6 series synths. the alternative is a PB12 - but while that definitely has the expressiveness (and has the things I think the Muse is missing too) sonically - the Muse just sounds nicer (i had the PB6 for a while so am fully aware of what that can do sonically).
1:45 er actually no... aint another synth out atm, cheap or pricey, that has that chord feature, (different chord on EVERY key available) or a couple of other tricks this thing has got.
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. De-tuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all! The sound is also bad and not rich. Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!! Forget the actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are. Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks. Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me. Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
I had one and returned it. I LOVE the sound, but the tuning was completely unstable (even when “tuned” and calibrated) and midi and key velocity was horrible. Not acceptable for synth in that price range. I hope #moog fixes both of those issues. If so, I’d grab another one in a heartbeat. @MoogSynthesizers
Haha. Great video. Both synths are awesome on their own. 🎉🎉🎉
I’ve seen like 10 other videos of this synth today and yours was by far the best for me. It brought me as close to the instrument as could get without playing it for myself. Thank u.
Thanks very much for the positive feedback :)
Great video! I returned my Moog One after 30 days of use. The One sounds OK, but just didn't do it for me, not to mention that I disliked the noisy fan. I just ordered the Muse, as I am really loving the demos that I'm hearing so far. For the price, I'm really liking what you get with the Muse and am hoping that it will give me the "Mooginess" that I did like with the Moog One, but without the loud fan and the insane price.
Nice one, you're gonna love it!
The One never did it for me. The Muse however, that is just right in the pocket. Gorgeous and very usable! Fun even!? Ha
I love my One. Muse has some nice sounds but feel limited vs the One. Like the amount of presets is so low.
Excellent video! Thank you. It gives you a real feeling for what the synth sounds like and what it is capable of. I am always amazed when people say: Well, nothing my XY cannot do. In this video you should be able to hear what it cannot do: sound like this so effortlessly! Just one oscillator, saw wave, unison, detune, filter ... and you got an earth shaking, lively bass sound. Unfortunately, Moog messed up distribution in Germany and I have been waiting for mine for 2 months now, and it will not be delivered before end of November. So, grateful for this video which makes me anticipate the synth even more joyfully!
One of the better videos of the Muse
Thanks Michael!
I told my wife this is the PRS private stock of Synths. Enjoyed your video. Have had my muse for 8 days. Digging it.
Right of the bat, the INIT patch gives you so much to work with, the fact that you have to dial Back and filter it to carve a rich sound is a strong point people seem to miss about this synth. Arturia hasn’t give me that on the Matrixbrute nor the polybrute, and anyone picking it are fooling themselves because they are mostly not real players, they just convence themselves that having poly aftertouch is what they need to sound better, but without rich base sound (oscillators and filter) you won’t get there. I Love this Review ❤
Operator error, Matrixbrute can growl
Apart from "classical' synth playing I would say that it has got an amazing potential for creating ambient music. Just wow.
absolutely, get a nice reverb involved and set phasers to bliss 😎
Seems to have everything in its right place
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yep! Everything we've always wanted 😍
Haha Radiohead chords got me hooked watching further nice
Fantastic demo man! You made it very easy to understand and provided solid audio examples. That final patch around 19:30 is absolutely gorgeous!
Thanks, appreciate the feedback ❤
I've watched a lot of vids on this synth, this is easily the best one, really nice clear musical examples, love it!
thanks very much!
Mind blowing synth! Moog is the king of Synthesizers. 🔥🔥❤❤
They definitely nailed it! Beautiful instrument
If you think the Muse is mind blowing you should check out the Arturia Polybrute 12
@@thedarkestrainbowprobably, but personally I’m looking for this more classic not that modern sound.
@@fjfrancois obtienes los dos mundos igualmente y mas voces y mas mas mas todo mas
One of the kings… sequential is pretty great too, along with OB
These tutorials are so helpful. Please continue because the manual is good but these examples help visually. Thank you 🙏
Great to hear, glad you got something out of it :)
great sounds !
Holy wow that sounds good! Classic Moog analog beefiness.
Need another 24 month Zip promo for this one!
Nice demo!
Wow 😮
WANT !!!!!!
Amazing machine. Got to touch one briefly :)
Just a bit of saving and it will be mine. Beautiful
I find your Prophet comparison agreeable. As I'm listening to so many reviews of The Muse, I can't help but hear so many of the same beautiful Horn Sounds coming from my Prophet 08 (the predecessor to the REV 2 which everybody loves, and I personally find to be a little too bathed in digital EFX, while the 08 is just Analog to a T). Anyway, I find the Horn Sounds on the Muse SO COMPARABLE to those coming from the 08, which is about a third of the price of a Muse. However, Muse wins out when it comes to the Low End Grumbling and Roaring, thanks to it's Ladder Filters! However, the 08 has it's own kind of Low End character, which I'd describe as more Creamy, and Smooth.
If someone has BOTH of these synths, I think a Blind Comparison between each would yield interesting results!
Great demo, glad i stumbled across this video! I finally feel like I know what the Muse sounds like now. My only question left after watching this is: Is the delay modulatable?
Here I am waiting for the "deluxe" version down the road with poly AT, more user presets and effects
Probably more likely to get a poly-aftertouch compatible module version, but time will tell 👀
@@StoreDJ_online even better. As long as it has the effects too
I’m saying for 3599 it’s crazy it don’t have that it should have a damn continuum keybed for that pr
@@Tripwelleverday. ~3500 ? … You must live in the US … Lucky!!
An MPE compatible module with effects would be a dream. I don't think this price is abusive. It's at least in line with sequential.
I don't think I will wait that long though. Almost pulling the trigger on a trigon 6
That last patch was sick!
Thanks! Thought we'd try something different 😁
When is it in stock at Store Dj Sydney ?
apologies for the delayed reply, unfortunately we still dont have a concrete ETA, hopefully we'll find out in the next week. but we've managed to secure demo units for most stores now - pop in and give it a try if you can 🙂
Staaap 😂 everyone instantly goes or the distortion, that gotta give me some smooth sound s
Really good video though.
haha, it can be very smooth and silky with a light touch on that mixer!
@@StoreDJ_online. Good to hear! The Overload slider seems like a great solution! 🤔
Great demo. I'll be sticking with my Moog One for now, as this is still a downgrade to the One. But I can understand if someone else sells their One for the Muse. It seems to be more for players than synth patch creators. Not having polyphonic aftertouch is still wild to me. And I agree with someone else in the comments of other videos; it sounds more like a Jupiter 8 than a Moog. Which isn't bad. Unless you view it as a bad thing.
Hadnt seen the Jupiter 8 comparisons, I guess a very clean patch with no overload at the mixer could sound reminiscent of a Jupiter, as soon as you bring that overload in though it's far heftier than anything i've heard from a Jupiter, huge bottom end. Poly aftertouch would have been very cool, but can't win em all!
-Mike
@@StoreDJ_online my apologies. Those comments have been in other videos.
@JewelsFin
I feel ya, it does feel more for players, not that that's a bad thing.
I own a One, it's my only Poly too haha. I find myself conflicted about it, they've fixed somethings I dislike about the One which for me, its really only the fan and the lack of overdrive making some mono sounds feel a little weak without unison. Outside of using it as a modulation source - I don't care two hoots about the sequencer or new arp, when I noodle stuff I noodle it into my daw then loop it back (or on the moogs sequencer when Im mucking around.) Seems like they could add a vast chunk of this stuff to the one via a firmware update but I doubt they would. (Although if they keep it on market with the insane new prices they should imo.)
But on the flip side as you said, there's a big downgrade about it too, I'd miss the layers, I'd miss extra LFOs, the extra mod evelopes, the effects, so on. At least for now, I don't think I'd sell the One and get a muse... But if my One ever broke down or I needed to move and sell it for whatever reason - I'd probably get a Muse, and even then I'd miss things about the One.
Sounds more vintage Moog-y than The One … How is that a downgrade? Do you mean all the bells & whistles?
Polybrute has bells & whistles … but then, its raw sound is liable to be confused with a Hybrid (but at a VCO price!)
One is incredibly feature strong which is very useful when you build patches. 4 LFOs, 16 VCOs, very flexible FXs, incredibly powerful mod matrix. 3(!) filters with tons of settings, very smart UI, unlimited patches etc. Muse can still make sounds One cannot, that is always interesting. Muse has a cool base sound for example. It feels like it competes with Prophet 10 and OB X8 etc.
Great you actually are programming this amazing sounding synths.
I'm sure if there wasn't already an instrument called P440 Sweetspot (Pulsar Modular), Moog for sure would have named their new synthesizer SWEETSPOT instead of MUSE.
Instant classic. And it is its own thing ; not a re-issue like most recent polys, and a fat analogue sound unlike some impressive but very digital other synths. I can only think of Taiga as being in that league, although it's not a massive poly like this one. Makes me wonder if Moog will let go of the One, given this thing is damn close and a fraction of the price.
Moog One has been discontinued, so Muse is their flagship poly now. Totally agree, instant classic for sure!
@@StoreDJ_online. Moog One nearly killed Moog … well, it DID kill Moog as-we-knew-it … 😬
@@kierenmoore3236 moog ya no es moog es otra cosa ,el moog laberrinth es true zero fm con wavefolder ,bubhla jajajaj,aunque taiga es de moog y buchla
eternal beta, a real modern akai/moog
I think I will be grabbing one. for ME, its missing a couple of things. a 3rd dedicated modulation envelope, dedicated reverb as well as delay (i use both together a LOT) - and ideally poly AT and 12 rather than 8 voices (though the latter isnt a big one really). BUT I dont have a Moog, it will complement my 3W and sequential 6 series synths. the alternative is a PB12 - but while that definitely has the expressiveness (and has the things I think the Muse is missing too) sonically - the Muse just sounds nicer (i had the PB6 for a while so am fully aware of what that can do sonically).
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1:45 er actually no... aint another synth out atm, cheap or pricey, that has that chord feature, (different chord on EVERY key available) or a couple of other tricks this thing has got.
Radiohead-Everything in it's right place
🚬😎 cool stuff
every synth needs envelopes like that. AT THE VERY LEAST exp/log curves per stage
agreed! it's an often overlooked feature that can dramatically change the character of your sounds
Sounds wonderful...though being a big fan of the Moog One, I wonder how the Muse compares?
lol. Well, it sounds good, and doesn’t have tuning problems out of the box, from all reports. So … “favourably” … 🤔
Way too much detune on the Radiohead riff.
He got excited. Be nice
haha i really did! Doesnt sound anything like the patch in the song, but thought it sounded nice regardless 😅
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. De-tuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all!
The sound is also bad and not rich. Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!!
Forget the actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are.
Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks.
Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me.
Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
Omg u played a muse track on the muse synth hahahhahah
did i? There's some Radiohead in there..and a bastardized Terminator theme riff, didnt intentionally play any Muse haha
FU, Adelaide!! lol
sorry, we dont have a store in Adelaide 😥
Sounds de-tuned but not in a good way.
I had one and returned it. I LOVE the sound, but the tuning was completely unstable (even when “tuned” and calibrated) and midi and key velocity was horrible. Not acceptable for synth in that price range. I hope #moog fixes both of those issues. If so, I’d grab another one in a heartbeat. @MoogSynthesizers
Well that's an awful disappointment for you.