Harry: 'I wish you weren't my son either'. That literally goes against EVERYTHING we know about Harry. Abused child Harry that grew up without feeling the love of his own parents, would NEVER say anything like that.
Oh, you just made me think of something. So, you know when Remus is being all "I'm a werewolf my son won't love me," Then Harry pretty much yells at him. Yeah, I've said enough...
Eli Hillaby As long as we agree that that was different than him saying that he hated his son, then fine. I swear the Cursed Child writers ONLY saw the movies. And didn't read the books, but fanfic instead
Lol honestly I read it once and by the end I didn’t even know what the title was referring to. Who was the cursed child, exactly? Was it Delphi? Albus? I don’t even think I wanna know, this is just such a huge waste of time
You didn't even mention another way _Cursed Child_ ruins the series: Voldemort having a daughter! Voldemort planned on living forever; why would his bloodline need to continue? If there is one thing Voldemort is famous for, it's lack of foresight on things like this. Also, can you imagine Voldemort and Bellatrix having sex? Ew, ew, eeewwwww! No!
KingsleyIII This. I won't even bother to read it at all. Especially after I found out Voldemort has a child. WTF?! This is absolutely ridiculous! He will never have a child. Not in any universe!
The reason why they had him become one is the stupidest justification for it too. I mean he offers to let Harry win in GOF when he saves him from the spider and yet we are supposed to believe he would be such a bad loser he would become a death eater.
I think the only way for him to be a Death Eater, is him making a deal to be a Death Eater to Voldemort or something, just to protect his friends or his dad. Idk that's the best way I could think of him being Death Eater. Or him telling the followers to be the Death Eater so Draco doesn't have to. But that will only work if Cedric and Draco were close friends. 😐
That will take a drastic change of character for him to become a death eater. But, well, we fix all these cracks and plot holes in fanfiction, and there are some really good ones out there. Peace.
Having this Version of Harry Potter as your father is surely a Curse. I cant believe people need more Reasons to call this non-canon than just Harry saying cruel things to his son.
"And in that moment, for the first time, Draco and Harry looked at each other as friends" Draco's character development is literally the ONLY thing that stops me from ignoring the existence of Cursed Child completely.
exactly like when he admitted that he was jealous of the golden trio and about how he was alone, i just loved that. BUT i can’t accept that he’s a better dad than harry
I hated that book when I read it. I'm so glad that you feel like it doesn't fit because that's exactly what I said. I waited for MONTHS for the Cursed Child to come out and was SORELY disappointed. It completely just ruins the way that Harry Potter is supposed to feel and it ruins the timeline, like you said.
Matt Palmer I see it as a separate entity as the original 7 like it's set in the same world but somehow doesn't count because of how it is literally the epitome of fanservice
I didn't really like it either..... I mean It doesn't read anything like jk Rowlings writing it sounds like it was written by someone in wattpad who was bored
okay, so here's something I kinda thought was a good topic of discussion. "Hermione, melting slightly: you wanna marry me again? Ron: well, we were only young when we did it the first time and I got very drunk and--well, to be honest, I can't remember much of it and...the truth is--I love you, Hermione Granger, and whatever time says--I'd like the opportunity to say s in front of lots of other people.. again. Sober." this right here is a wonderful example of how hard the representation of all the characters flopped. Ron isn't that dumb, and he's been pining for her for literally 7 years straight. I don't think he'd get pissed during their first wedding. he wouldn't ever try to break her heart, or even try to get drunk. at his own wedding. that's not him at all. that's none of the characters--Maybe Draco. In the entire book, Ron is played out to be this dumb idiot who's overly protective of his wife, even when it's unwelcome. and let me stop it right there. A). I do suppose canonically, he is very protective of her, and a little possessive too. but she doesn't exactly dislike it. she does tell him *not* to attack people for her, but It's not because she dislikes the prospect so much as he might get expelled for it, which is something that she really cares about. B). he's not an idiot. He's super good at chess, he's astute and often notices very tiny details, and he supplies Hermione and Harry with very integral information. He. isn't. just. comic. relief. C). okay, this one was kinda obvious, but I feel like no one talks about this: RON WOULD NEVER GET DRUNK AT HIS OWN WEDDING. He literally loves Hermione too much. He's probably *always* wanted to marry her and have kids and all that mushy mushy stuff. there's no way in literal *hell* he'd ever get drunk, purposefully, and just break her heart like that. this entire line, when I suppose was supposed to be all cutesy, comes off as making him sound like a complete and udder heartless asshole. and I hate it so much. Cursed Child fell flat. ***HARD*** *Drops mic* Alright, that's it for my TED talk.
Exactly! They even changed Harry’s character so they are trying to convince me that Harry Potter the person who always wanted to have a family that loves him and takes care of him and lives in peace tells his own SON that he wish he was never his son? And trash talks Ginny and mcgonagall they were always there for him. At this point jk Rowling doesn’t care about Harry Potter, the characters nor the fandom all she cares about is attention and money
I just F-ing hated this "book" for every reason you listed. Thank you for covering it... Do you know like what happened with this? WHY did JK allow this thing to be written the way it is?!
Morgan Warner thank you, I thought the same thing myself, why oh why did JK Rowling allow this book to go ahead, it's badly written fan fiction and people have been duped into thinking that she wrote it because hers is the main name on the front cover and it says the 8th Harry Potter book on the back.
i absolutely hate the cursed child it ruins every single harry potter book 📚 this is why..... 1. polyjuice potions are différent 2. most of the characters attitude are different 3. alternate universes don't exist in harry potter because there is like a future you that does it before the present you then goes and does it so it already happens (if that makes sense) and there are loads more things i hate about it
Just a fanfiction, and not even a good one. The amount of stupidity in this book just baffles me. Most obvious one, how Hermione set up the protection for the time turner.
More stupid than the riddle to protect the Time Turner, she didn't protect her office against Alohomora. That's stupid XD Imagine the office of the Prime Minister without any protection except a single locket, and he kept papers in it? ^^'
I hate how it says Cedric would have been a death eater. Humiliated or not, he was way too kind to ever even think about becoming a death eater, and as a Hufflepuff, I Take it as a MASSIVE insult.
@@Max-ml2hc Of course of course *Turns around* Looks like we got a muggle. In all SIRIOUSness, there is a quiz you can take to see what house you're in, it's stupid but fun.
Actually in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood prince. Slughorn tells Hermione that she should be minister of magic, in which Hermione response something along the lines of "No, I want to do something useful with my life," I don't see Hermione to be the type of person to say something like that then COMPLETELY contradict what she said!
Patricia Keys But Hermione is literally the type of person that doesn't change easily. She's been a certain way for her whole life and suddenly she's doing something that she would never do?! Look the book wasn't even written by Jk Rowling herself, and it didn't stay entirely true to the original story. It's not just Hermione that did something she would never do. Other characters as well.
she was into SPEW, basically a budding social justice warrior-- if that isn't a strong link to her early political leanings, even if she hand't realised it herself at the time, i don't know what is. She took her prefect role super seriously if you remember, a role which is as close to "student council"-ish as you can get in the British system. Plus, something earth shattering happened to her between her saying that to slughorn and her marrying Ron: The Battle of Hogwarts (and much more). You can't say the thought of "politics is a powerful tool of change" didn't at least cross her mind once after all the crazy, risky shit she had to do in her life. You _can't_ say for certain and that's the truth, and that's what the authors of the Cursed Child relied on. I honestly didn't expect anything less than phenomenal from Hermione, like, of course she'd be the bloody prime minister!
Patricia Keys didn't you read my other comment? "I can imagine Hermione being the prime minister but I can't imagine her being someone she doesn't want to be."
One interpretation of time travel is that everything that you do in the past has happened already so you can't change anything. J.K. uses this view in Prisoner of Azkaban but now in Cursed Child, it has a different view of time travel. so... not canon...
Remember that often with time travel we are thinking about how it work in a alternate version of OUR universe. In the HP universe, when the condition are different(such as the timeturners being different in their power) are you sure that how time reacted would have the same effect?
I totally agree, and I don't like the curse child...at all, but Jk Rowling said some weird stuff about time travel, about a wizard going back in time, and deleting 20 peoples from the same family from time, so... this messes time travel real bad x)
I agree with everything you said. After reading it, i just sighed and threw it on my desk and if someone tells me "i haven't read the cursed child yet" i just answer "don't".
Actually the fandom is pretty divided. While it seems that a slight majority hates it, there are many who like it, some who even love it, and the rest are just kinda okay with it.
yea i went and saw the play in London and it was so well done with the effects, but that doesn't change the fact that the story sucks. I just liked it for being a play with good tech and pretty good actors that I completely separated from HP
And time-travel is self-fulfilling and everything happens in a single loop (HP III) => Cursed child "forgets" this rule to fuck up the space-time continuum realy altering the history and rendering HP IVff. useless => The Cursed Child IS NOT CANON FFS!!!!!!!!
Though it did happen that way in PoA, do you know that under the different conditions including a different type of timeturner that the reaction of the type of time would stay the same? We do not know how the harry potter universes world work and shouldn't assume that something can only react in one way.
Though you have a good point, I think your effectiveness is being destroyed by starting with multiple no instead of one. Calm down a little and remember this is all just us trying to explain things in a world we believe to be fantasy
The thing that bothered me the most as soon as I read it is that bellatrix couldn't be pregnant because in the deathly Hallows book there was no mention of her being pregnant and even in the movie she did not look pregnant. Other things really annoy me too but that is just 1
She had her child just before the Ballte of Hogwarts, so in may 1998. When Harry Potter and friends came to Malfoy Manor and see her, it's in March 1998, she's 8 months pregnant and... act as there is no problem XD When? Before the Order of the Phoenix, she's in AZkaban and Voldemort is litteraly a wandering soul ^^
i agree its stupid. at first seamus was talking about how voldemort would not want kids and i was like well, ya don't have to want kids to have them. but then i realized the whole bit about there being no mention of Bellatrix's pregnancy and there went that theory.
I totally agree with the fact that Bellatrix could not have had a baby but since she dies in the Battle of Hogwarts she would have to 'have the baby' beforehand, therefore she wouldn't look pregnant because she wasn't actually pregnant.
One thing I have not yet heard anyone point out about the timeturner in the Harry Potter Series and the timeturner in "The Cursed Child" is that the person using the timeturner in the Series did not return to the present by magic but by reliving the entire time they went back. As a result the boys in "The Cursed Child" should have just vanished never to be heard from again but would have instead have remained in the past to grow up there.
It is mentioned that the kind of time turners in Cursed Child is a different one to the type in the series though, so maybe that could be a reason why the return to the present is different.
Cara E I know right? I love Scorpius, (but I feel like he shouldn't be in slytherin, I don't know, it feels weird to me) and in this Draco, was a far better father than Harry :'D
I do not like the fact that JK Rowling made Albus Severus struggle on the broom which is unacceptable because Harry and Ginny are good on brooms. She needed to leave the story a rest after the Deathly Hallows.
Would you like some applejacks or cheerios for breakfast? If you choose the applejacks, then you create a timeline and if you choose cheerios you just created a 2nd timeline. Choices and events do matter in creating parallel universes why do you think Harry and Hermione avoided their younger selves? Because seeing them might alter the future or worse kill their future selves unintentionally. If someone sees you that has the potentiality to change the future. Are you really sure Hermione is not going to mention to Ron or Harry about two strange students lurking about in the shadows of the trials? Remember in the alt. universe it did affect her choices so why wouldn't it alter the timeline ever so slightly in the original? You think Hermione who is probably the most stubborn person in Harry Potter is just going to forget seeing a stranger that looks too much like her best friend and not investigate this phenomenon and eventually remember Time Turners and realize oh shit that was Harry's son and keeps that filed away until said child is born. I'm fairly sure that would make the timeline slightly different. Alternative universe is not the type of time travel used before meaning there is multiple paths to reach one solution otherwise no alternative universe would exist so, therefore, The Cursed Child is creating a time travel that creates alt. universes but PoA doesn't because all paths lead to the exact same outcome just the characters and readers only have half the story before the time travel. And just reversing the damage done doesn't mean the butterfly effect just vanishes entirely, the mere presence of Albus in any time before he was born is going to have some effect on the timeline especially since he is messing with the timeline twice at the same time. Look at what happened with the blanket, that still exists in the future but wait a minute that blanket got that stuff on earlier so why didn't they notice the blanket getting burned holes in it earlier? And would that not alter how the events going forward are going to be done? So then tell me how does utilizing the butterfly effect in a story possibly retain the canonicity of the entire series when the simple act of being there is going to alter the timeline exponentially?
And just to be clear, think about Back to the Future. In that movie, the protagonist went back in time messed shit up and came back only to start disappearing so he went back again fixed everything and bam his life improved and this is basically the exact same plot only Harry Potter meaning the canon story has to have altercations thanks to Albus' mucking around.
The entire Harry potter universe although deals with magic has an underlying logic that cannot be denied. Cursed child destroyed this structure defined by Rowling. If you regard this book as actual series of events, sadly the whole universe falls apart. So myself and other Harry potter fans assume cursed child never happened and revel only in the world created by J K Rowling. Furthermore, cursed child feels more like fan fiction than a legitimate novel
Chaleena Diminsa I remember when they used polyjuice or something,(I haven’t read it in a long time) he said “wanna have kids?” Or something like that..
I've told multiple friends that Cursed Child doesn't feel like JK wrote it, and they all seem to take that as "I don't like Cursed Child". That is never what I mean when I say it doesn't feel right. I love fanfiction, and that's what it feels like to me, but Cursed Child is not cannon to me, and neither is fanfiction, obviously. I like Cursed Child, but I will never consider it cannon.
MiaPlaysHalo the people who wrote it (Thornton and Tiffany ) did not completely master JK's talent for world building and character relatbiity IMO and instead banked on the series success and found a way to shoehorn a voldermort element into the story to appeal to longtime fans
+FireBall2Cool I've seen you type this on another comment. Why do you notice it and feel the urge to correct someone? Correcting them doesn't make it go away. If you *_do_* feel OCD, why do you look at it? Ffs.
Time Manipulation for free It's part of the compulsion. A lot of OCD cases have ritualistic behaviours (like flipping the light switch six times every time you turn on/off the light) so, it would make sense that correcting is part of that.
+Time Manipulation for free It's called OCD. Do you know what that is? Because you don't seem to, from the way you criticised that person. There's nothing wrong with learning. The idea of correcting bad spelling is that instead of being a DICK about it, you grow and learn. Getting mad at grammar nazis is basically the same as saying you would rather wallow in your ignorance forever as opposed to getting SMARTER. That's not a good look. Accept it as a chance to learn something, like it seems the OP has, instead of deliberately being an ignorant jerk.
How I would imagine the book if the plot was related to my last comment would be Albus trying to act "bad " and try and do something that Harry would never do resulting in the plot twist. I would love the book if it was that
Agreed. I really liked the personalities they gave to the children in this story, so it would have been interesting to read about them without all that time travelling and dark wizards and whatever getting in the way of their character development.
The Cursed Child was certainly interesting to read. It was, most definitely, like reading a particularly good fanfiction. There are things in the Cursed Child that I always thought would happen after DH and thus consider canon (such as the way Harry and Dudley’s relationship went, and I actually did see Hermione becoming Minister because of how much she’d want to fix how the ministry was run) and there were things I found just plain intriguing (though not necessarily did I consider them canon) like the idea of the alternate world with Snape and the Trolley Witch (that reveal seemed like something JK Rowling would do). But…well. The story as a whole doesn’t seem to work canonically in the Potterverse. At the top (or very near the top) of my list of problems with the Cursed Child is HOW THE HECK is there a rumor that Scorpius is Voldemort’s son?! How could so many people jump to that conclusion when if they just used basic math and logic it could be disproved? Now, assuming pregnancy works the same way in the wizarding world than it does in ours (and it seems to), a mother will be pregnant about nine months before giving birth. Voldemort died at the Battle of Hogwarts in 1998. The epilogue in DH is 19 years later, in 2017. Scorpius is eleven in the epilogue, being the same age as Albus, so Scorpius was born around 2006. For Scorpius to possibly be Voldemort’s son his mother would’ve had to carry him for EIGHT YEARS. How do so many people in the Cursed Child spread/believe a rumor that this is possible or even likely? Perhaps the craziest of them would’ve jumped to conclusions using other forms of magic as an excuse, like time travel, but remember there were no time turners usable at that time, so time travel isn’t a plausible solution to the issue these dates present in this rumor. No wizard in their right mind would jump to such a conclusion as, “Scorpius Malfoy is Voldemort’s son!” when it’s not possible for that to be true. And as for Voldemort having a child at all, it’s just mind boggling. Voldemort doesn’t feel love and doesn’t seem to like children, so I not only can I not see him having a child either purposefully or accidentally, I don’t think he’d take the time off waging a FULL-BLOWN WAR on the wizarding world to do that with Bellatrix Lestrange. I doubt he would do it with anyone, but doing it with her just sounds so out of character. Not to mention that with all of the magical mangling his body and soul has gone through, I don’t think Voldemort was even capable of having children. And we already know Voldemort was over sixty, likely around 70 or 71. At the time of her death in DH, Bellatrix was around 47 or 48. A majority of women can no longer get pregnant at age 45. And until she was broken out after Voldemort’s return, she was in Azkaban for over a decade, which would’ve taken its toll on her body, making it unlikely that she could have a child afterwards even if she wasn’t already the age most women can’t have children. It’s possible they could have had the child before Voldemort tried to kill Harry on Halloween, seeing as we have no exact age for their “daughter” Delphini in the Cursed Child besides being born before May 1998, but though it’s far more possible than her being born after Bellatrix was in Azkaban, it still seems unlikely to me. I can see Bellatrix trying to do something like that, but I can’t see Voldemort agreeing with it. Voldemort’s interactions with Bellatrix in DH seem to show him not really giving her the time of day to do anything with him besides help him take over the world the exact way he wants it taken over. I don’t think he would have bothered doing anything with her like that. He didn’t seem the type to lust after it much and in fact didn’t seem to care. The other matter is the time turners. As you said, they break the rules JK Rowling set in the Prisoner of Azkaban for how time works. Not just the time-turners, but time magic itself. Everything that is already is. You can’t change it; it’s already happened. And when they introduce the new time-turners in the Cursed Child, they don’t even suggest that these time-turners have the ability to contradict that time magic. The only thing that they outright say in the Cursed Child that sets these time-turners apart from the old ones is that they can go back years rather than hours-or at least they can go back way further than the other ones could. The way time and magic interact in the Cursed Child is entirely different than it is in the Harry Potter series. It’s different on such a level that I don’t consider their uses of time magic to be in the same universe, aka the Cursed Child happens in a different magical world where time magic uses different rules than in the actual Harry Potter series. And on the topic of Cedric, I as a Hufflepuff believe that a member of ANY house has the potential to become evil. Everyone has some good and some evil inside them. As Sirius Black puts it: “The world isn’t split between good people and Death Eaters. We’ve all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That’s who we really are.” Each house has its own strengths, and I think the very nature of Hufflepuff makes it less likely for the members in the house to act on their “dark sides.” The kind of people Hufflepuff holds are those who have the integrity to choose to act on their best qualities over their worst. This is the Hufflepuff quality that Cedric shows on more than one occasion-most notably when concerning the Quidditch match he won against Gryffindor in the Prisoner of Azkaban. He won this match only because Harry has a bad reaction to the dementors by falling off his broom and fainting. Cedric not only recognizes that this was the only reason he won, but he also wanted to give up his win (saying the win belonged to Harry) before he was denied the ability for even a rematch between the two houses for the win. And later, in the Goblet of Fire, when his father is boasting about this exact win, Cedric is uncomfortable with the idea of taking the glory for something he didn’t feel he earned. This is the part of Cedric that I think would make it unlikely for him to become a Death Eater due to humiliation of all things. The Cedric in the books (I’m not so certain about the Cedric in the movies, but the one in the books, yes) would’ve moped about the humiliation a while, but then accepted it and moved on. He would’ve chosen to act on his best qualities over his worst. Cedric is not the type to become a Death Eater and kill someone simply because of humiliation. There are no doubt things that COULD plausibly turn him into a Death Eater, but that, I think, is not one of them. Last but not least, I don’t think Cedric was the only one who seemed out of character. In the DH epilogue, we see Harry interacting with his children. Certainly from what is shown, he’s a good father. He sees Albus’s fears regarding the sorting, and addresses them properly. I’ve always gotten the impression that Harry was a good father, albeit a flawed and occasionally awkward one. The Cursed Child seemed to flip this fatherly scene in the epilogue in its head. Suddenly Harry is shown making all the wrong choices when in regards to Al. In the Cursed Child, he seems to be portrayed as a bad father. Someone once brought up a valid argument with me about this: that the abusive nature of Harry’s childhood with the Dursleys as well as Vernon’s obviously dismal and in fact non-existent father role in Harry’s life would make Harry’s poor fathering choices in the Cursed Child quite reasonable. But though Harry did have a traumatic childhood with the Dursleys, we can see the ways in which this affected him throughout the series, and from what I’ve seen of Harry by reading those books so many times, he hasn’t let the Dursleys negative presence in his life damage him enough for him to become a “bad father” because of it. And Harry did not in fact have a lack of fatherly figures in his life. There was Remus Lupin, Arthur Weasley, Dumbledore, Hagrid…I don’t quite count Sirius but I’m pretty sure Harry does…and I’m sure there are others that Harry considered to have made a fatherly impact on his life, an impact he would want to also make on his own kids. I actually think he would strive harder to be a good father and be there for his children BECAUSE of the way he grew up. So that’s that. I believe the Cursed Child was a good story, but certainly not one that fits into the world that is Harry Potter.
I agree on all counts accept one, it was a terrible story that was badly written, which made it imo a chore to read, the story line did not flow, it was very stop start, was all over the place and had more holes than a colander.
Lydia Kelly Wow. That was an incredible thing to read, and I'm stunned by the fact you seem to have put more research and effort into a youtube comments than the writers of this play considered doing. If anybody was going to write a sequel to the series, my faith would be in you before them
I think that the cursed child is plainly bad, the story is forced and so unecesssary, like going back in time multiple times, WTF! I can't accept that the cursed child is canon even if Rowling confirms it, which she won't. I personally think she left herself the option to keep the series going.
Milo O'Rourke you are forgetting that Harry was always recognized as James Potter son because he look just like him, except by his eyes. And it is known that Albus is really similar to Harry. So yes, maybe Hermione wouldn't recognize him at the moment as Harry's son, but later in life she would remember, it's Hermione. Also, the plot sucks, it's literally every fanfic they could find and mush it up al together and made a mess. It was poorly written, the plot was weak, the characters were awful, they ruined Cedric, Hermione, Harry and Ron's characters. Just to name a few. It was a fanfic, and it wasn't even a good one. I read betters. I wrote betters. The curse child is NOT cannon. No respectable potterhead would accept it. And you need to stop copy/pasting the same comment over and over again. It's annoying.
Yeah Cedric becoming a death eater was rediculous and unnecessary. They could have written that many Hufflepuffs heard of the cheating In the 2nd task and one of them went on to become a death eater. But not cedrick. But there really shouldn't have been time travel at all. That was the main issue, along with writing that Voldemort had a daughter and with a witch who has no plausible time line in which to have a daughter in the storyline. If Bellatrix had a daughter with Voldemort, why wouldn't she have mentioned this or lorded it over Luscious or other death eaters. Or why would Voldemort's daughter be kept secret?
I hated how in the alternate universe where Hermione and Ron weren't married, Hermione was the DADA professor. Out of all the subjects she could have been the professor for, I'm positive she wouldn't have chosen that subject. Also, that's basically saying she didn't become the Minister for Magic because she didn't marry Ron? So she needed a husband to be powerful? I adore the Harry Potter series (my friends like to say I'm obsessed) and honestly, when I first read The Cursed Child, I actually liked it. But then when I sort of thought about it, it had way too many plot holes. One more thing, why would Albus decide to save Cedric after Cedric's father comes to talk to his father once? Albus would have grew up with his uncle George talking about Fred all the time but he decided to try and save Cedric?
That's not even a problem, really. Growing up with knowing one of your uncles is dead won't have as much impact as that conversation Albus overhears. Especially as his reaction is rather impulsive. It's not really thought out, it's just something he wants to do so he will feel better. Not saying everything's good, but that part isn't as bad as you make it sound
Hana Rose same. I quickly finished the book and told my friend about how awesome it was. Then one day while thinking over it again, I found that most of the things didn't make sense in the play. Even if JKR believes it to be, I don't consider it canon
THANK YOU OMG SO MANY PEOPLE TRY TO TELL ME THAT THEY DID CHANGE THE PAST IN POA AND IM LIKE OMG DID YOU NOT READ THE BOOKS????? THEY CLEARLY DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING!!!!! OMG you don't know how great it is to have someone agree goodness gracious
BAKEEY SENPAI I THOUGHT I LOST YOU COME ON WE HAVE BUTTERBEER AND ARAGOG IS SO BAKED WITH DOBBY. WE GOT DUMBLEDORE DOIN SHOTS WITH SLUGHORN. WE GOT SNAPE GETTIN BAKED WITH GODRIC, WE GOT HARRY AND HAGRID GETTIN DRUNK. WE GOT MOLLY WEASLY FLIRTING WITH LUCIUS. (I ship Mucius, or Lolly)
And in prisoner of Azkaban Hagrid says that when he went to bring Harry to the Dursleys Sirius arrived too and gave him his motorbike while in the cursed child we just see Hagrid leave without seeing Sirius......
Yo, Milo, shut up. Seriously, in every comment you're just copy pasting the same damn retarded defense of a shitty piece of writing with minimal edits if any at all. The Cursed Child doesn't exist, it's bad, it never happened. Harry Potter is great, and it's only a seven book series with some movie adaptations. Nothing else exists, no other websites, no other stupid "plays", no retarded short story background information books, it is just the seven original books and no tweets or other dumb ass shit Rowling does will change that. If she makes "second editions" of the originals we'll just burn them, reprint, and sell the originals because even though Rowling has become a communist SJW lefty her books are still masterpieces and she can't take that away from her fans. Neither can you with your piss-poor attempts by just copy-pasting the same retarded arguments over and over.
It appears the comment I was responding to has been deleted, but I am being partially serious, although I exaggerated quite a bit for effect. To me, the only books I care about and consider are the original seven. I greatly enjoyed reading them as a child, grew up with them, have read all of them multiple times, and thought they ended very well leaving a nicely finished and complete story that was quite satisfying. All these extra things can do is ruin my image of the wonderful books I grew up reading, and they can't add anything to the stories that wasn't already there. Because of this, I choose to ignore all the new crap because I consider it to be just that, crap, and I can hold on to the masterpiece that is the original Harry Potter series even if I've come to despise the author that created them.
@@namehere7309 And I was saved because I was thinking of buying the book, and then I came to know just how disastrous the book is. If I had read the book, then probably my love for hp series would have died😔😔
Also all the characters are out of character. Draco Malfoy is the freaking moral compass! Harry would never be that bad a father! And Ron and Hermione's relationship was reduced to "because Ron is jealous of Krum," which is BS. Just because Rowling thinks their marriage may not work doesn't mean they don't have real feelings for each other. And why don't James, Lily, and Rose have more than bit parts? Why do Hugo and the other Weasley grandkids--or other Weasley kids/Molly and Arthur, for that matter?--not appear? In the Malfoy Manor bit in Book 7, why did nobody notice Bellatrix was 8 months pregnant?! It's all BS.
No offense but I did like that Malfoy was the moral compass he has matured it has been 19 years he is not that little kid throwing around racial slurs at Hermione because he had a crush on but couldn't admit his feelings even to himself, also I agree with J.K. Rowling their marriage clearly doesn't work who gets drunk at their wedding night, but yes they do love each other but doesn't their marriage works, also I prefer Dramione along with many of the Harry Potter cast other than that I do agree with you.
@@yaeleah0722 apperantly during the deathly hallows Bellatrix gave birth to Delphini (at the Malfoy Manor) whatS even more bizarre is that the father is Voldemort..... ill let that sink in
The Cursed Child book very obviously takes place in the version of the wizarding world depicted in the film franchise, not the main books. For instance, the maze in the Third Task of the Triwizard Tournament in Cursed Child lacks monsters or obstacles like the one in the books, and the hedges instead attack the people in the maze like in the films. When I got to that part in the book I realized I'm not reading a bonafide Harry Potter sequel, but some sort of sequel to the movie franchise, which I've aways regarded as less-than-canon and a sort of parallel reality from the book series. Adult Harry is kind of an arrogant asshole in Cursed Child as well, which is a vibe one sometimes gets from Daniel Radcliffe's Harry, but not so much from the literary Harry. I can't imagine that someone like Harry would actually talk to his kids the way he does and fail to understand life like an ordinary parent. And the stage production of Cursed Child has other elements in addition to the basic outline of the script that differ from the main books, and the film series. People forget that there were a few years where Harry Potter existed without the films; all sorts of merchandise and media existed in that time that had nothing to do with the film series or its actors; the films all have widely differing styles that the different directors imparted on the series; and they basically are other people's imaginative take on Rowling's world. Which I suspect Cursed Child also is, though her name is attached to it. Harry Potter was originally a very open-ended concept that people could fill with their own imagination, and I've always felt the movie franchise took that away a lot :(
JamesR Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. It's a little disheartening to see a movie adaptation overshadow the book, even though I still like the Harry Potter films I've seen. Part of the book series' magic comes from the author and the medium and so of course everything else is part of the group franchise and reimagining.
They ruined all the characters in the cursed child. 1. Harry: Harry would NEVER tell his OWN SON “I sometimes wish you weren’t my son!” 2. Ron: Ron is more of a chill character, yet in the cursed child he basically replaces Fred (spoilers) because he died! I know Ron makes a couple jokes sometimes but he isn’t supposed to be a reincarnation of Fred 😂 3. Hermione: I never imagined HERMIONE to be a minister for magic! Of course I think she could be helping out house elves but SHE CANNOT BE a minister for magic 4. Cedric: When I read what Cedric has become, I just got so mad. I don’t think the writers even read the books! Cedric was a: nice, kind, smart, loyal, responsible. I can’t believe they would make him a death eater because he LOST a STUPID TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT. I’m really upset about this and I think JK Rowling should have rewrote the story Ginny: Ok Ginny I always didn’t like Ginny. She was really irrelevant and I don’t think she would ever assume HARRY said something rude to his son. Yes he did say something rude to Albus but GINNY would not ASSUME Albus Potter: He turned into an absolute brat! He isn’t great full to be Harry’s son when he knows Harry is famous. He hates Harry. Plus I didn’t think a POTTER would EVER be in Slytherin!
*Cough* Sorting hat wanted to place Harry in slytherin before he asked that he didnt want to be in it *cough cough* But excluding that, i wholly agree! My friend lent me their cursed child book and after reading that i was just left sitting there
I thimk j.k rowling should announce that the cursed child is fan fiction and rewrite it herself with no other authors involved and with a completely different plot,like if you agree
yeah. With this plot: ua-cam.com/video/TSQJ9W4SxiQ/v-deo.html Unfortunately she would face legal troubles if she did take this statement back (from fans who where tricked into buying it for it being the 8th book and also from procuders of the show who where granted permission to make the 8th story but then stripped of it later on. #breach of contract). But one can dream right? XD
Rowling wouldn't throw the creators she worked with, the staff and the cast of the stage play under the bus like that. That's not how things work in adult world.
Two things: 1) literally no one disagrees with Seamus on this. It's almost as hated as Umbridge 2)If you've watched AVPM, you know that Voldemort obviously loves Quirrell, not Bellatrix
I know right? At one point I was reading The Cursed child and just set it down, leaned back and said " Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way" And then covered my face and started giggling because it was so bad. I can't remember which part it was though.
One final piece of evidence that the cursed child is fanfiction .... The epilogue in the deathly hallows is DIFFERENT to the beginning of the cursed child!!! If the beginning of cursed child is different to the real story, then the rest of it is made up too!
the second I read the 3rd page was when I realized that jk had not wrote this. In Deathly Hallows Ginny told James to show Neville love. Then in rubbish Cursed Child, Hermione is the one that told Rose to show Neville love. First I thought that she had lost her memory of Deathly Hallows but then I realized that it wasn't her that wrote it, it was one of the other 2 blokes she worked with? Siriusly am I the only one that spoted this mistake?
Payed $20+ for this rubbish and read maybe 5 pages before i had to pack it away, its not even sitting with my Harry Potter collection. Was truly horrible to read.
its a very minor mistake, though. And would this be the only problem this book/play has i would love it. Unfortunately there are much more, much bigger problems with it. Pointing at this mistake is like entering a room whiches walls are full of fecies and complaining that the tea cloth on the table is wrinkled. I'd rather remove the shit and then care for the tea cloth.
I don't consider the Cursed Child cannon. I don't like the way Harry treated Albus. The only thing I really liked about it was that Albus was a slytherin and He became friends with Scorpius. Those are the only things I accept as part of the Harry Potter Universe. I feel the worst part of the books (minis the whole mess of time travel that The Doctor couldn't even keep track of) was how Harry basically tossed Albus aside, yeah it kind of was "solved" at the end but I feel like it should have never happened in the first place.
FINALLY!!!!!!!! SOMEONE STANDS UP TO THIS BULLSHIT. Cursed child is like fanfiction written by someone who only watched the goblet of fire movie. And believe me when i say this, Harry 'snogging' Krum sounds more realistic
Walk it off Um... Hermione being single is much more realistic than Hermione being with Draco. They have no chemistry and he's super racist towards her. Even Hermione and Harry have no chemistry, they're like siblings.
Emma Wilson Cedric doesn't die in the cursed child he is humiliated and leaves the tournament. What I think makes him to evil is that he thrived on his good looks and his popularity and that kind of humiliation just really got to him and made him snap. To quote serius black, "everybody has lightness and darkness in them. Life isn't split into good people and death eaters."
kaylatara paskoski jepp. abysmal choices, but parts of season 9 were still entertaining and they didn't betray the original characters as much. so it will always be better than the cursed child
Cursed Child is terrible fanfiction - Voldemort having a daughter is directly from My Immortal, the notorious terrible fanfiction. Making Cedric a Death Eater shows that the writers have never actually read the books, just the blurbs! The time travel of the Cursed Child is a game changer that totally invalidates the entire series. Now everything could have been solved by this kind of time turner.
+FandomCosplayer she also said people born of love potions literally cannot feel love and that Bellatrix was wearing a corset at like all times let's see you hide a baby under a corset
Leah Davis I heard about that, I was like "wtf?" but honestly at first I didn't know that Bellatrix was married into the Lestrange blood-line I thought that was just her last name from her side of the black family and because of how she acts around Voldemort they can easily be shipped.
I hate the cursed child. It's more like a fanfic than an actual J.K Rowling story. Harry is too angry, Albus is too rebellious E.C Also I think Delphini is the cursed child. Also I think any die hard fans won't accept anyone, apart from Emma Watson, playing Hermione
This is what I think happened: Jack Thorne and John Tiffany go to JK Rowling and say, "We'd like to make a Harry Potter play. But not about Harry. About Albus and Scorpius. We were thinking that they'd both be in Slytherin." JKR: "Oh. What's the conflict going to be?" JT&JT: "Well, we were thinking about exploring time turners a little bit, and the dangers of judging people before you get to know them. We're going to have to be really careful to avoid messing with the timeline, though..." JKR: "No. No, you won't. You get my approval only on the condition that you fuck with the timeline as much as possible." JT&JT: "Wait, really?" JKR: "Yes. I told them all that messing with time is a bad idea. I demonstrated that time travel is only safe to use when it preserves the timeline, which is, fortunately, somewhat resilient. But despite all my best efforts, people have been badgering me for the past decade, saying, "Well, they should have used the time-turner more. They should have gone back and killed Voldemort before his rise to power. They should have kept it as an ace-in-the-hole for every time something goes wrong." And I'm sick of it. I want you to end it. Show them all beyond any shadow of a doubt just how awful things get when wizards meddle with time. Make them all suffer for their sins." And honestly, I can't blame her. I probably would have done the same thing.
I don't think the characters *IN* Harry Potter know how time turners work. Hermione in PoA says "Clearly there's something that Dumbledore wants us to change!" Except you can't change anything. Considering Hermione had been using it all year and... well she's *Hermione,* that seems pretty weird to me... Theory on that maybe?
When you say Cedric Diggory could have been Head Boy so wouldn't have become a Death Eater. Tom Riddle and Lucius Malfoy were Prefects but only Tom Riddle became Head Boy. Meaning some of the Dark Side were 'good' during school
Brocky Junior those were Slytherin not Hufflepuff like completely different personalities being embarrassed would have made Cedric cry not want revenge lol. Plus Hufflepuff are loyal kind and friendly soooo not much in common with voldamort or any other Slytherin.. im a ravenclaw btw
PS. They don't have to be "good" to be a perfect they have to have good grades and riddle got it by lying about hagrid so that's not nice is it pretty evil...
It means they could behave and respect the rules, not that they were good people. Cedric was a genuinely good person with a kind heart. He loved people (his family, his friends and girlfriend) and was loved in return. He could never have been a death eater.
Though Cedric Diggory was a fantastic person and embodied his house, even the best of people have limits and can be affected by how others around them treat them or make them feel alone. Fear as well can make us do crazy things and Cedric though he didn't like his father boasting could have had fear about not living up to what he thought his father wanted.
The only thing I feel like people should consider cannon as post hp storyline is 1. scorpius malfoy being the kindest person you'll ever meet and a slytherin soft boy (because hell yeah, also I fluff with the idea of draco malfoy raising his child on actual good morals and not making the same mistakes his parents made with him) and 2. albus and scorpius's friendship because dang it makes me soft. Everything else can rot in tartarus.
I don’t agree with Scorpius being a softie. If he’s a Slytherin, he’s got to have some Slytherin traits. I’d rather have a shy and distrusting Scorpius or a snarky outcasted Scorpius and make Scorpius Albus’s second best friend. Make him more Scorpio, not Cancer.
I agree with most your points Seamus. Some flashback scenes and quotes were well made in my opinion such as Amos questioning Harry how many people died for him and a flashback scene with Petunia and Harry.
Just don't accept it as canon. I know that Rowling tweeted requesting it to be accepted as canon however,the book heavily contradicts what she already wrote Anyway,there aren't even character profiles of albus and Scorpius in pottermore.
It feels like there was a contest to find the worst fanfiction and turn it into a play. Not to mention all the plotholes. JK said the timeturner in Prisoner of Azkaban was a mistake, but what do these 2 'authors' introduce a super-overpowered version of it. I mean instead of trying to save Cedric, why didn't they just try to stop Voldemort from entering Hogwarts? Or maybe leave a message like "Madeye Moody is Barty Crouch in disguise please check it out? Use Veritaserium?" What's Albus and Scorpius motivation; why would they try to safe sb they never met? Oh wait, they do it for their old pal Amos Diggory. Now it all makes perfect sense.
If Cedric was a death eater.. that means he survived so he was spared so the prophecy is complete so there was was no need to mess it up in the maze and he definitely survived, because he killed neville in the battle of hogwarts which is after GoF which is when he originally died MIND BLOWN😱 we really need a mind blown emoji
The worst part is that JK Rowling has actually said that it's cannon
When did that happen?!
JK Rowling tweets are def not canon!
sheerayb yup
Everything she said after the last Book/Film is not canon imo
JK Rowling isn't cannon at this point
Harry: 'I wish you weren't my son either'.
That literally goes against EVERYTHING we know about Harry. Abused child Harry that grew up without feeling the love of his own parents, would NEVER say anything like that.
This is so painfully accurate 😂❤️
Oh, you just made me think of something. So, you know when Remus is being all "I'm a werewolf my son won't love me," Then Harry pretty much yells at him. Yeah, I've said enough...
Eli Hillaby In his defence, he was using reverse psychology to get Remus to man up and be a dad/husband
Yeah, I know I was agreeing with you...
Eli Hillaby As long as we agree that that was different than him saying that he hated his son, then fine.
I swear the Cursed Child writers ONLY saw the movies. And didn't read the books, but fanfic instead
The cursed child is accurate, it cursed the Harry Potter franchise.
Nice one
Lol honestly I read it once and by the end I didn’t even know what the title was referring to. Who was the cursed child, exactly? Was it Delphi? Albus? I don’t even think I wanna know, this is just such a huge waste of time
Lmao that's actually so trye
Nah it’s a metaphor for JK Rowling turning into a child and cursing the Harry Potter series.
Oof burn 😂.
You didn't even mention another way _Cursed Child_ ruins the series: Voldemort having a daughter! Voldemort planned on living forever; why would his bloodline need to continue? If there is one thing Voldemort is famous for, it's lack of foresight on things like this. Also, can you imagine Voldemort and Bellatrix having sex? Ew, ew, eeewwwww! No!
KingsleyIII
This. I won't even bother to read it at all. Especially after I found out Voldemort has a child. WTF?! This is absolutely ridiculous! He will never have a child. Not in any universe!
Desiree Barhorst-Weller Yh poor Bella isn't getting laid
Nope we dont claim her lets just say she was fan made
It will be like: go on my lord. Fill me up. Go aughh oh my
I can imagine that Bellatrix: Yeah... Do you feel it Voldy?
Voldemort: No. This is actually boring
It should be called
Harry Potter
and the
book that should
not be named
Harry Potter and The Book That Ruins Everything We Ever Knew About Harry Potter.
Harry Potter and This Deserves To Be The Prisoner Of Azkaban
We do not speak his name nohax69
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We do not speak Its name
For naming It will bring us all ruin and desperation.
Tip: Cursed child is not canon if you don't think of it as canon. So just think of it as fanfiction written by the author.
Cedric Diggory would NEVER be a death eater.
#notinmyhouse
Literally!
Why? Because he is a Hufflepuff?
He is worse than a death eater he is in twilight
The reason why they had him become one is the stupidest justification for it too. I mean he offers to let Harry win in GOF when he saves him from the spider and yet we are supposed to believe he would be such a bad loser he would become a death eater.
Not even hufflepuff myself but i couldnt agree more, this iteration of the character goes completely against everything he believed in
If Cedric did become a Death Eater, it would have been for better reasons than *being embarrassed in the Triwizard Task*
He can't because he's so kind , he doesn't like show off also . Death eater are evil also
I would think the ONLY way that Cedric would be a deatheater is if his family and friends would be harmed if he didn't 😤🤔.
👏He👏is👏a👏Hufflepuff👏
I think the only way for him to be a Death Eater, is him making a deal to be a Death Eater to Voldemort or something, just to protect his friends or his dad. Idk that's the best way I could think of him being Death Eater. Or him telling the followers to be the Death Eater so Draco doesn't have to. But that will only work if Cedric and Draco were close friends. 😐
That will take a drastic change of character for him to become a death eater. But, well, we fix all these cracks and plot holes in fanfiction, and there are some really good ones out there. Peace.
It wasn't very good. I just can't imagine Harry being that mean to anyone, especially professor McGonagall and HIS OWN SON.
Isabella Kolak Oof.
And Ginny
No certainly not Harry Potter who forgave Severus Snape and made peace with Kreacher and Draco Malfoy.
Having this Version of Harry Potter as your father is surely a Curse.
I cant believe people need more Reasons to call this non-canon than just Harry saying cruel things to his son.
Yes
"And in that moment, for the first time, Draco and Harry looked at each other as friends"
Draco's character development is literally the ONLY thing that stops me from ignoring the existence of Cursed Child completely.
Same. I absolutely love his character development😍
exactly like when he admitted that he was jealous of the golden trio and about how he was alone, i just loved that. BUT i can’t accept that he’s a better dad than harry
I ignor its existence. But after harry saves dracos life in the seventh book I like to think that they become friends.
FR
I hated that book when I read it. I'm so glad that you feel like it doesn't fit because that's exactly what I said. I waited for MONTHS for the Cursed Child to come out and was SORELY disappointed. It completely just ruins the way that Harry Potter is supposed to feel and it ruins the timeline, like you said.
I haven't seen the play, but I read the screenplay. And I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist.Or rather, that it isn't cannon. =D
I read half of it then erased it from the face of earth!!!
Same
Same here 😥
I never even read it, glad I didn't
In response to the title, it's a simple answer.
*Yes.*
It can burn!
*Incendio!*
*Avada Kedavra!*
*Reducto!*
Confringo
*Whatever spell summons Fiendfyre!*
This book is so bad it makes Umbridge a Saint.
*Albus Potter and Himself*
10/10 book title
When harry said "I sometimes wish you weren't my son" I closed the book and scermed
I know exactly how you feel, in my opinion that was the stupidest lien in the hole book and that's saying something 😤.
Honestly i thought harry's character and "scarring" past would make him a good dad but i guess jk wanted to change everything
People change alot when they grow up last time we saw him he was 17 now he's more that 20 years older
Seamus: *politely* I don't really like it.
Also Seamus: *sets the book on fire*
"I won't really like it" said Seamus calmly.
m o o d
@@lastfullast8819 YASS 🤣
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It's like book vs movie Dumbledore
Yeah cursed child is just a fan fiction with a budget in my opinion
Matt Palmer
I see it as a separate entity as the original 7 like it's set in the same world but somehow doesn't count because of how it is literally the epitome of fanservice
like in the same way as fantastic beasts and where to find them is
I didn't really like it either..... I mean It doesn't read anything like jk Rowlings writing it sounds like it was written by someone in wattpad who was bored
Matt Palmer yeah but there's a lot of decent hp fanfic...
The Apocalypse yeah that's the think, cursed child isn't one of em
okay, so here's something I kinda thought was a good topic of discussion.
"Hermione, melting slightly: you wanna marry me again?
Ron: well, we were only young when we did it the first time and I got very drunk and--well, to be honest, I can't remember much of it and...the truth is--I love you, Hermione Granger, and whatever time says--I'd like the opportunity to say s in front of lots of other people.. again. Sober."
this right here is a wonderful example of how hard the representation of all the characters flopped. Ron isn't that dumb, and he's been pining for her for literally 7 years straight. I don't think he'd get pissed during their first wedding. he wouldn't ever try to break her heart, or even try to get drunk. at his own wedding. that's not him at all. that's none of the characters--Maybe Draco.
In the entire book, Ron is played out to be this dumb idiot who's overly protective of his wife, even when it's unwelcome. and let me stop it right there.
A). I do suppose canonically, he is very protective of her, and a little possessive too. but she doesn't exactly dislike it. she does tell him *not* to attack people for her, but It's not because she dislikes the prospect so much as he might get expelled for it, which is something that she really cares about.
B). he's not an idiot. He's super good at chess, he's astute and often notices very tiny details, and he supplies Hermione and Harry with very integral information. He. isn't. just. comic. relief.
C). okay, this one was kinda obvious, but I feel like no one talks about this: RON WOULD NEVER GET DRUNK AT HIS OWN WEDDING. He literally loves Hermione too much. He's probably *always* wanted to marry her and have kids and all that mushy mushy stuff. there's no way in literal *hell* he'd ever get drunk, purposefully, and just break her heart like that.
this entire line, when I suppose was supposed to be all cutesy, comes off as making him sound like a complete and udder heartless asshole. and I hate it so much. Cursed Child fell flat. ***HARD***
*Drops mic*
Alright, that's it for my TED talk.
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Exactly! They even changed Harry’s character so they are trying to convince me that Harry Potter the person who always wanted to have a family that loves him and takes care of him and lives in peace tells his own SON that he wish he was never his son? And trash talks Ginny and mcgonagall they were always there for him. At this point jk Rowling doesn’t care about Harry Potter, the characters nor the fandom all she cares about is attention and money
I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't even drink at his bachelor party, so he wpuld be sure to not have a hangovet
I understand some of what you’re saying, but I don’t think Ron got drunk on purpose.
@@avenus_624 this isnt meant to be rude but...how do you accidentally get drunk?
I just F-ing hated this "book" for every reason you listed. Thank you for covering it... Do you know like what happened with this? WHY did JK allow this thing to be written the way it is?!
Morgan Warner thank you, I thought the same thing myself, why oh why did JK Rowling allow this book to go ahead, it's badly written fan fiction and people have been duped into thinking that she wrote it because hers is the main name on the front cover and it says the 8th Harry Potter book on the back.
For that sweet money of course
Nowadays everyone that is famous cares about money and nothing else.
i absolutely hate the cursed child it ruins every single harry potter book 📚 this is why.....
1. polyjuice potions are différent
2. most of the characters attitude are different
3. alternate universes don't exist in harry potter because there is like a future you that does it before the present you then goes and does it so it already happens (if that makes sense)
and there are loads more things i hate about it
Just a fanfiction, and not even a good one.
The amount of stupidity in this book just baffles me. Most obvious one, how Hermione set up the protection for the time turner.
More stupid than the riddle to protect the Time Turner, she didn't protect her office against Alohomora. That's stupid XD
Imagine the office of the Prime Minister without any protection except a single locket, and he kept papers in it? ^^'
Fan fiction, not Canon, I felt angry reading it, hated it!!!
Sara Hughes fanon
Same
Same
Same
problems what he said
Voldemort and Bellatrix have sex
Albus somehow sent a message to Harry somehow in 1981
I hate how it says Cedric would have been a death eater. Humiliated or not, he was way too kind to ever even think about becoming a death eater, and as a Hufflepuff, I Take it as a MASSIVE insult.
Funny thing is, I'm a Slytherin and I agree with you on that.
@@tformerdude6788 Ravenclaw house agrees, Now where da Griffendors be at!?
PianoPerry hi, Gryffindor here. It’s majorly fucked that they would try to pull such an out-of-character stunt on such a kind character.
u guys know that none of u are in any of these fictional houses right...?
@@Max-ml2hc Of course of course *Turns around* Looks like we got a muggle.
In all SIRIOUSness, there is a quiz you can take to see what house you're in, it's stupid but fun.
I'm just going to pretend The Cursed Child was never meant to be a part of the series. Like it was just a fanfiction that JK approved of.
Seamus: Does The Cursed Child RUIN The Harry Potter Series?
Me: YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Actually in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood prince. Slughorn tells Hermione that she should be minister of magic, in which Hermione response something along the lines of "No, I want to do something useful with my life," I don't see Hermione to be the type of person to say something like that then COMPLETELY contradict what she said!
Eli Hillaby I can see Hermione being minister of magic but I can't see her being something she doesn't want to be.
people change. Hermione was what, 16? very normal to consider more than one career option at around that age.
Patricia Keys But Hermione is literally the type of person that doesn't change easily. She's been a certain way for her whole life and suddenly she's doing something that she would never do?! Look the book wasn't even written by Jk Rowling herself, and it didn't stay entirely true to the original story. It's not just Hermione that did something she would never do. Other characters as well.
she was into SPEW, basically a budding social justice warrior-- if that isn't a strong link to her early political leanings, even if she hand't realised it herself at the time, i don't know what is. She took her prefect role super seriously if you remember, a role which is as close to "student council"-ish as you can get in the British system.
Plus, something earth shattering happened to her between her saying that to slughorn and her marrying Ron: The Battle of Hogwarts (and much more). You can't say the thought of "politics is a powerful tool of change" didn't at least cross her mind once after all the crazy, risky shit she had to do in her life.
You _can't_ say for certain and that's the truth, and that's what the authors of the Cursed Child relied on. I honestly didn't expect anything less than phenomenal from Hermione, like, of course she'd be the bloody prime minister!
Patricia Keys didn't you read my other comment? "I can imagine Hermione being the prime minister but I can't imagine her being someone she doesn't want to be."
One interpretation of time travel is that everything that you do in the past has happened already so you can't change anything. J.K. uses this view in Prisoner of Azkaban but now in Cursed Child, it has a different view of time travel. so... not canon...
Remember that often with time travel we are thinking about how it work in a alternate version of OUR universe. In the HP universe, when the condition are different(such as the timeturners being different in their power) are you sure that how time reacted would have the same effect?
Imperium Victoria yeah someone said I forgot who, we will have to wait and see to see what happens with the time travel
yeah i was thinking that
I totally agree, and I don't like the curse child...at all, but Jk Rowling said some weird stuff about time travel, about a wizard going back in time, and deleting 20 peoples from the same family from time, so... this messes time travel real bad x)
Imperium Victoria there is a thing about how far back you can go...
**0.001 seconds into the video**
Me: yes, yes it does
How to read Cursed Child:
1. Purchase book
2. Exit store
3. Drive home
4. Place book in trash can
5. Have a cup of coffee
Or better buy at least 5 and throw them. That way you save 4 other people from the torment.
I hate coffee
4. burn it
I'd toss it into a fireplace and have a cup of tea myself.
thats a how to basic thing
I agree with everything you said. After reading it, i just sighed and threw it on my desk and if someone tells me "i haven't read the cursed child yet" i just answer "don't".
"I love the Cursed Child!"
- said no Potterhead ever.
What if a snapehead, malfoyhead or even a weasleyhead said it?(I never read it btw)
Actually the fandom is pretty divided. While it seems that a slight majority hates it, there are many who like it, some who even love it, and the rest are just kinda okay with it.
yea i went and saw the play in London and it was so well done with the effects, but that doesn't change the fact that the story sucks. I just liked it for being a play with good tech and pretty good actors that I completely separated from HP
LIES!(ps read my comment,basically i like it. )
“Said no Potterhead ever”, probably except for my white suburban parents.
Cursed child is not written by JKR, I don't take it as canon. I take Magical creatures as canon tho bc it is made by JKR.
curryvid also magical creature is good and makes sense and follow a story that was hinted at in the first seven Harry Potter books
And time-travel is self-fulfilling and everything happens in a single loop (HP III) => Cursed child "forgets" this rule to fuck up the space-time continuum realy altering the history and rendering HP IVff. useless => The Cursed Child IS NOT CANON FFS!!!!!!!!
no JK Rowling had 100% no influence on the story
Though it did happen that way in PoA, do you know that under the different conditions including a different type of timeturner that the reaction of the type of time would stay the same? We do not know how the harry potter universes world work and shouldn't assume that something can only react in one way.
Though you have a good point, I think your effectiveness is being destroyed by starting with multiple no instead of one. Calm down a little and remember this is all just us trying to explain things in a world we believe to be fantasy
The thing that bothered me the most as soon as I read it is that bellatrix couldn't be pregnant because in the deathly Hallows book there was no mention of her being pregnant and even in the movie she did not look pregnant. Other things really annoy me too but that is just 1
She could have recently been impregnated
She had her child just before the Ballte of Hogwarts, so in may 1998. When Harry Potter and friends came to Malfoy Manor and see her, it's in March 1998, she's 8 months pregnant and... act as there is no problem XD
When? Before the Order of the Phoenix, she's in AZkaban and Voldemort is litteraly a wandering soul ^^
Funny enough, Helena B. Carter was actually pregnant while filming (which episode, i can't recall) but i absolutely agree its bullshit
i agree its stupid. at first seamus was talking about how voldemort would not want kids and i was like well, ya don't have to want kids to have them. but then i realized the whole bit about there being no mention of Bellatrix's pregnancy and there went that theory.
I totally agree with the fact that Bellatrix could not have had a baby but since she dies in the Battle of Hogwarts she would have to 'have the baby' beforehand, therefore she wouldn't look pregnant because she wasn't actually pregnant.
One thing I have not yet heard anyone point out about the timeturner in the Harry Potter Series and the timeturner in "The Cursed Child" is that the person using the timeturner in the Series did not return to the present by magic but by reliving the entire time they went back. As a result the boys in "The Cursed Child" should have just vanished never to be heard from again but would have instead have remained in the past to grow up there.
It is mentioned that the kind of time turners in Cursed Child is a different one to the type in the series though, so maybe that could be a reason why the return to the present is different.
The only thing I really liked about the cursed child was how Scorpius and Draco were portrayed.
Cara E I know right? I love Scorpius, (but I feel like he shouldn't be in slytherin, I don't know, it feels weird to me) and in this Draco, was a far better father than Harry :'D
I totally agree. the character development with the two of them was great! That is the only part of the book I'm not erasing from my brain.
You mean, as lovers? 🧐
I do not like the fact that JK Rowling made Albus Severus struggle on the broom which is unacceptable because Harry and Ginny are good on brooms. She needed to leave the story a rest after the Deathly Hallows.
They were amazing
"The Cursed Child" is exactly like Disney sequels: it's all for money, it's not even the same author, and it shouldn't exist.
It's the first Harry potter book I could put down without anyone telling me...
Even you don't deserve this stupid fanfic storyline
Yes, it ruins it. I disregard the book completely. Never happened as far as I'm concern.
Would you like some applejacks or cheerios for breakfast? If you choose the applejacks, then you create a timeline and if you choose cheerios you just created a 2nd timeline. Choices and events do matter in creating parallel universes why do you think Harry and Hermione avoided their younger selves? Because seeing them might alter the future or worse kill their future selves unintentionally. If someone sees you that has the potentiality to change the future. Are you really sure Hermione is not going to mention to Ron or Harry about two strange students lurking about in the shadows of the trials? Remember in the alt. universe it did affect her choices so why wouldn't it alter the timeline ever so slightly in the original? You think Hermione who is probably the most stubborn person in Harry Potter is just going to forget seeing a stranger that looks too much like her best friend and not investigate this phenomenon and eventually remember Time Turners and realize oh shit that was Harry's son and keeps that filed away until said child is born. I'm fairly sure that would make the timeline slightly different. Alternative universe is not the type of time travel used before meaning there is multiple paths to reach one solution otherwise no alternative universe would exist so, therefore, The Cursed Child is creating a time travel that creates alt. universes but PoA doesn't because all paths lead to the exact same outcome just the characters and readers only have half the story before the time travel. And just reversing the damage done doesn't mean the butterfly effect just vanishes entirely, the mere presence of Albus in any time before he was born is going to have some effect on the timeline especially since he is messing with the timeline twice at the same time. Look at what happened with the blanket, that still exists in the future but wait a minute that blanket got that stuff on earlier so why didn't they notice the blanket getting burned holes in it earlier? And would that not alter how the events going forward are going to be done? So then tell me how does utilizing the butterfly effect in a story possibly retain the canonicity of the entire series when the simple act of being there is going to alter the timeline exponentially?
And just to be clear, think about Back to the Future. In that movie, the protagonist went back in time messed shit up and came back only to start disappearing so he went back again fixed everything and bam his life improved and this is basically the exact same plot only Harry Potter meaning the canon story has to have altercations thanks to Albus' mucking around.
fanon discontinuity
The entire Harry potter universe although deals with magic has an underlying logic that cannot be denied. Cursed child destroyed this structure defined by Rowling. If you regard this book as actual series of events, sadly the whole universe falls apart. So myself and other Harry potter fans assume cursed child never happened and revel only in the world created by J K Rowling. Furthermore, cursed child feels more like fan fiction than a legitimate novel
I don’t count the cursed child canon even if JK Rowling says it is
I just like to pretend it doesn't exist. :)
Same. Just like I am with Infinity Wars.
Just like Cars 2
What do you mean? There hasn't ever been any eighth book.
Seriously, that's the worst book I've eber read. Ignoring it is the only solution
same
Same
STILL REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN ALBUS KISSED HERMIONE AND HE WASN'T EVEN DISGUSTED BRO
THIS HAUNTS ME AT NIGHT
HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO DO IT IT'S NOT LIKE SHE MADE THE FIRST MOVE OR ANYTHING HE JUST DID IT FOR THE HECK OF IT
Chaleena Diminsa I remember when they used polyjuice or something,(I haven’t read it in a long time) he said “wanna have kids?” Or something like that..
@@frootluip1369 BRO IT TRAUMATIZED ME JSBSNEBS
He didn't even have to he just did
I've told multiple friends that Cursed Child doesn't feel like JK wrote it, and they all seem to take that as "I don't like Cursed Child". That is never what I mean when I say it doesn't feel right. I love fanfiction, and that's what it feels like to me, but Cursed Child is not cannon to me, and neither is fanfiction, obviously. I like Cursed Child, but I will never consider it cannon.
MiaPlaysHalo
the people who wrote it (Thornton and Tiffany ) did not completely master JK's talent for world building and character relatbiity IMO and instead banked on the series success and found a way to shoehorn a voldermort element into the story to appeal to longtime fans
+FireBall2Cool I've seen you type this on another comment. Why do you notice it and feel the urge to correct someone? Correcting them doesn't make it go away. If you *_do_* feel OCD, why do you look at it? Ffs.
Iniya Malaikani it doesn't mean they need to correct them.
Time Manipulation for free It's part of the compulsion. A lot of OCD cases have ritualistic behaviours (like flipping the light switch six times every time you turn on/off the light) so, it would make sense that correcting is part of that.
+Time Manipulation for free
It's called OCD. Do you know what that is? Because you don't seem to, from the way you criticised that person.
There's nothing wrong with learning. The idea of correcting bad spelling is that instead of being a DICK about it, you grow and learn. Getting mad at grammar nazis is basically the same as saying you would rather wallow in your ignorance forever as opposed to getting SMARTER. That's not a good look. Accept it as a chance to learn something, like it seems the OP has, instead of deliberately being an ignorant jerk.
The plot would have been good if they stayed with the problem in the beginning. Which is Albus is stuck in his fathers shadow
How I would imagine the book if the plot was related to my last comment would be Albus trying to act "bad " and try and do something that Harry would never do resulting in the plot twist. I would love the book if it was that
That Girl Rebecca i agree with this 100%
that would be so much better!!
Yeah. I think that would make more sense and would be a better storyline
Agreed. I really liked the personalities they gave to the children in this story, so it would have been interesting to read about them without all that time travelling and dark wizards and whatever getting in the way of their character development.
The Cursed Child was certainly interesting to read. It was, most definitely, like reading a particularly good fanfiction. There are things in the Cursed Child that I always thought would happen after DH and thus consider canon (such as the way Harry and Dudley’s relationship went, and I actually did see Hermione becoming Minister because of how much she’d want to fix how the ministry was run) and there were things I found just plain intriguing (though not necessarily did I consider them canon) like the idea of the alternate world with Snape and the Trolley Witch (that reveal seemed like something JK Rowling would do). But…well. The story as a whole doesn’t seem to work canonically in the Potterverse.
At the top (or very near the top) of my list of problems with the Cursed Child is HOW THE HECK is there a rumor that Scorpius is Voldemort’s son?! How could so many people jump to that conclusion when if they just used basic math and logic it could be disproved?
Now, assuming pregnancy works the same way in the wizarding world than it does in ours (and it seems to), a mother will be pregnant about nine months before giving birth. Voldemort died at the Battle of Hogwarts in 1998. The epilogue in DH is 19 years later, in 2017. Scorpius is eleven in the epilogue, being the same age as Albus, so Scorpius was born around 2006. For Scorpius to possibly be Voldemort’s son his mother would’ve had to carry him for EIGHT YEARS. How do so many people in the Cursed Child spread/believe a rumor that this is possible or even likely? Perhaps the craziest of them would’ve jumped to conclusions using other forms of magic as an excuse, like time travel, but remember there were no time turners usable at that time, so time travel isn’t a plausible solution to the issue these dates present in this rumor. No wizard in their right mind would jump to such a conclusion as, “Scorpius Malfoy is Voldemort’s son!” when it’s not possible for that to be true.
And as for Voldemort having a child at all, it’s just mind boggling. Voldemort doesn’t feel love and doesn’t seem to like children, so I not only can I not see him having a child either purposefully or accidentally, I don’t think he’d take the time off waging a FULL-BLOWN WAR on the wizarding world to do that with Bellatrix Lestrange. I doubt he would do it with anyone, but doing it with her just sounds so out of character. Not to mention that with all of the magical mangling his body and soul has gone through, I don’t think Voldemort was even capable of having children. And we already know Voldemort was over sixty, likely around 70 or 71. At the time of her death in DH, Bellatrix was around 47 or 48. A majority of women can no longer get pregnant at age 45. And until she was broken out after Voldemort’s return, she was in Azkaban for over a decade, which would’ve taken its toll on her body, making it unlikely that she could have a child afterwards even if she wasn’t already the age most women can’t have children. It’s possible they could have had the child before Voldemort tried to kill Harry on Halloween, seeing as we have no exact age for their “daughter” Delphini in the Cursed Child besides being born before May 1998, but though it’s far more possible than her being born after Bellatrix was in Azkaban, it still seems unlikely to me. I can see Bellatrix trying to do something like that, but I can’t see Voldemort agreeing with it. Voldemort’s interactions with Bellatrix in DH seem to show him not really giving her the time of day to do anything with him besides help him take over the world the exact way he wants it taken over. I don’t think he would have bothered doing anything with her like that. He didn’t seem the type to lust after it much and in fact didn’t seem to care.
The other matter is the time turners. As you said, they break the rules JK Rowling set in the Prisoner of Azkaban for how time works. Not just the time-turners, but time magic itself. Everything that is already is. You can’t change it; it’s already happened. And when they introduce the new time-turners in the Cursed Child, they don’t even suggest that these time-turners have the ability to contradict that time magic. The only thing that they outright say in the Cursed Child that sets these time-turners apart from the old ones is that they can go back years rather than hours-or at least they can go back way further than the other ones could. The way time and magic interact in the Cursed Child is entirely different than it is in the Harry Potter series. It’s different on such a level that I don’t consider their uses of time magic to be in the same universe, aka the Cursed Child happens in a different magical world where time magic uses different rules than in the actual Harry Potter series.
And on the topic of Cedric, I as a Hufflepuff believe that a member of ANY house has the potential to become evil. Everyone has some good and some evil inside them. As Sirius Black puts it: “The world isn’t split between good people and Death Eaters. We’ve all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That’s who we really are.”
Each house has its own strengths, and I think the very nature of Hufflepuff makes it less likely for the members in the house to act on their “dark sides.” The kind of people Hufflepuff holds are those who have the integrity to choose to act on their best qualities over their worst. This is the Hufflepuff quality that Cedric shows on more than one occasion-most notably when concerning the Quidditch match he won against Gryffindor in the Prisoner of Azkaban. He won this match only because Harry has a bad reaction to the dementors by falling off his broom and fainting. Cedric not only recognizes that this was the only reason he won, but he also wanted to give up his win (saying the win belonged to Harry) before he was denied the ability for even a rematch between the two houses for the win. And later, in the Goblet of Fire, when his father is boasting about this exact win, Cedric is uncomfortable with the idea of taking the glory for something he didn’t feel he earned. This is the part of Cedric that I think would make it unlikely for him to become a Death Eater due to humiliation of all things. The Cedric in the books (I’m not so certain about the Cedric in the movies, but the one in the books, yes) would’ve moped about the humiliation a while, but then accepted it and moved on. He would’ve chosen to act on his best qualities over his worst. Cedric is not the type to become a Death Eater and kill someone simply because of humiliation. There are no doubt things that COULD plausibly turn him into a Death Eater, but that, I think, is not one of them.
Last but not least, I don’t think Cedric was the only one who seemed out of character. In the DH epilogue, we see Harry interacting with his children. Certainly from what is shown, he’s a good father. He sees Albus’s fears regarding the sorting, and addresses them properly. I’ve always gotten the impression that Harry was a good father, albeit a flawed and occasionally awkward one. The Cursed Child seemed to flip this fatherly scene in the epilogue in its head. Suddenly Harry is shown making all the wrong choices when in regards to Al. In the Cursed Child, he seems to be portrayed as a bad father.
Someone once brought up a valid argument with me about this: that the abusive nature of Harry’s childhood with the Dursleys as well as Vernon’s obviously dismal and in fact non-existent father role in Harry’s life would make Harry’s poor fathering choices in the Cursed Child quite reasonable. But though Harry did have a traumatic childhood with the Dursleys, we can see the ways in which this affected him throughout the series, and from what I’ve seen of Harry by reading those books so many times, he hasn’t let the Dursleys negative presence in his life damage him enough for him to become a “bad father” because of it. And Harry did not in fact have a lack of fatherly figures in his life. There was Remus Lupin, Arthur Weasley, Dumbledore, Hagrid…I don’t quite count Sirius but I’m pretty sure Harry does…and I’m sure there are others that Harry considered to have made a fatherly impact on his life, an impact he would want to also make on his own kids. I actually think he would strive harder to be a good father and be there for his children BECAUSE of the way he grew up.
So that’s that. I believe the Cursed Child was a good story, but certainly not one that fits into the world that is Harry Potter.
Lydia Kelly oh dang thats a lot of words
I agree on all counts accept one, it was a terrible story that was badly written, which made it imo a chore to read, the story line did not flow, it was very stop start, was all over the place and had more holes than a colander.
To me it was a terrible story. Like so OoC. There's fanfiction with more sense and continuity than this thing.
Lydia Kelly Wow. That was an incredible thing to read, and I'm stunned by the fact you seem to have put more research and effort into a youtube comments than the writers of this play considered doing. If anybody was going to write a sequel to the series, my faith would be in you before them
Wtf is this
I think that the cursed child is plainly bad, the story is forced and so unecesssary, like going back in time multiple times, WTF! I can't accept that the cursed child is canon even if Rowling confirms it, which she won't. I personally think she left herself the option to keep the series going.
Milo O'Rourke you are forgetting that Harry was always recognized as James Potter son because he look just like him, except by his eyes. And it is known that Albus is really similar to Harry. So yes, maybe Hermione wouldn't recognize him at the moment as Harry's son, but later in life she would remember, it's Hermione. Also, the plot sucks, it's literally every fanfic they could find and mush it up al together and made a mess. It was poorly written, the plot was weak, the characters were awful, they ruined Cedric, Hermione, Harry and Ron's characters. Just to name a few. It was a fanfic, and it wasn't even a good one. I read betters. I wrote betters. The curse child is NOT cannon. No respectable potterhead would accept it. And you need to stop copy/pasting the same comment over and over again. It's annoying.
I can write a better one, and I’m 10!
Okay, as much as we adore her we can all agree that it was forced. I keep telling myself its ridiculous but it kind of feels like a ploy for money.
Think J.K said it is "Canon" but the fans just won't accept it and I can't blame them it was absolute rubbish.
Ironically for a comedy-orientated play, AVPM makes more sense than Cursed Child.
Wouldn’t they know Hermione’s name because when Rita wrote about her about liking quidditch players then they would see her name and her picture
Actuly i yhink it was after the second
Yeah Cedric becoming a death eater was rediculous and unnecessary. They could have written that many Hufflepuffs heard of the cheating In the 2nd task and one of them went on to become a death eater. But not cedrick. But there really shouldn't have been time travel at all. That was the main issue, along with writing that Voldemort had a daughter and with a witch who has no plausible time line in which to have a daughter in the storyline. If Bellatrix had a daughter with Voldemort, why wouldn't she have mentioned this or lorded it over Luscious or other death eaters. Or why would Voldemort's daughter be kept secret?
Brian Johnson Bellatrix would never get a daughter anyway. Voldy didn't have the time or heart for fun
* Ridiculous * Unnecessary *Cedric *Lucius
Cedric is ded he died in year four how is he alive
Did Cullen come to England
I hated how in the alternate universe where Hermione and Ron weren't married, Hermione was the DADA professor. Out of all the subjects she could have been the professor for, I'm positive she wouldn't have chosen that subject. Also, that's basically saying she didn't become the Minister for Magic because she didn't marry Ron? So she needed a husband to be powerful? I adore the Harry Potter series (my friends like to say I'm obsessed) and honestly, when I first read The Cursed Child, I actually liked it. But then when I sort of thought about it, it had way too many plot holes. One more thing, why would Albus decide to save Cedric after Cedric's father comes to talk to his father once? Albus would have grew up with his uncle George talking about Fred all the time but he decided to try and save Cedric?
Hana Rose right, why not save fred :(
That's not even a problem, really. Growing up with knowing one of your uncles is dead won't have as much impact as that conversation Albus overhears. Especially as his reaction is rather impulsive. It's not really thought out, it's just something he wants to do so he will feel better.
Not saying everything's good, but that part isn't as bad as you make it sound
Hana Rose totally right
Hana Rose same. I quickly finished the book and told my friend about how awesome it was. Then one day while thinking over it again, I found that most of the things didn't make sense in the play.
Even if JKR believes it to be, I don't consider it canon
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THANK YOU OMG SO MANY PEOPLE TRY TO TELL ME THAT THEY DID CHANGE THE PAST IN POA AND IM LIKE OMG DID YOU NOT READ THE BOOKS????? THEY CLEARLY DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING!!!!! OMG you don't know how great it is to have someone agree goodness gracious
The cursed child isn't the best to read but the play is beautiful 👌🏼
TheBakeey ohhhhh ma gawd!
BAKEEY SENPAI I THOUGHT I LOST YOU COME ON WE HAVE BUTTERBEER AND ARAGOG IS SO BAKED WITH DOBBY.
WE GOT DUMBLEDORE DOIN SHOTS WITH SLUGHORN.
WE GOT SNAPE GETTIN BAKED WITH GODRIC,
WE GOT HARRY AND HAGRID GETTIN DRUNK.
WE GOT MOLLY WEASLY FLIRTING WITH LUCIUS. (I ship Mucius, or Lolly)
TheBakeey Sophie I found you 😂
SOPHIEEEEEEEEE
TheBakeey you're everywhere sophiee
And in prisoner of Azkaban Hagrid says that when he went to bring Harry to the Dursleys Sirius arrived too and gave him his motorbike while in the cursed child we just see Hagrid leave without seeing Sirius......
Of course he also indicates in PS that Sirius would want his bike back despite Sirius being in Azkaban at the time.
Yo, Milo, shut up. Seriously, in every comment you're just copy pasting the same damn retarded defense of a shitty piece of writing with minimal edits if any at all.
The Cursed Child doesn't exist, it's bad, it never happened. Harry Potter is great, and it's only a seven book series with some movie adaptations. Nothing else exists, no other websites, no other stupid "plays", no retarded short story background information books, it is just the seven original books and no tweets or other dumb ass shit Rowling does will change that.
If she makes "second editions" of the originals we'll just burn them, reprint, and sell the originals because even though Rowling has become a communist SJW lefty her books are still masterpieces and she can't take that away from her fans. Neither can you with your piss-poor attempts by just copy-pasting the same retarded arguments over and over.
^^ Wtf. I can't tell if you're serious or if you're just fucking with us.
It appears the comment I was responding to has been deleted, but I am being partially serious, although I exaggerated quite a bit for effect. To me, the only books I care about and consider are the original seven. I greatly enjoyed reading them as a child, grew up with them, have read all of them multiple times, and thought they ended very well leaving a nicely finished and complete story that was quite satisfying.
All these extra things can do is ruin my image of the wonderful books I grew up reading, and they can't add anything to the stories that wasn't already there. Because of this, I choose to ignore all the new crap because I consider it to be just that, crap, and I can hold on to the masterpiece that is the original Harry Potter series even if I've come to despise the author that created them.
GoF Cedric: Harry, you take the cup.
cursed child Cedric: I'M SO ANGRY I DIDN'T WIN, I'M GOING TO BECOME A DEATH EATER!!!!!!
Hi wisp
I threw my book after that
They rlly made up some dumb reason just so "see yall,THIS is why Cedric died and why his dead was nEceSsArY" like-????????????
@@namehere7309 And I was saved because I was thinking of buying the book, and then I came to know just how disastrous the book is. If I had read the book, then probably my love for hp series would have died😔😔
Also all the characters are out of character. Draco Malfoy is the freaking moral compass!
Harry would never be that bad a father!
And Ron and Hermione's relationship was reduced to "because Ron is jealous of Krum," which is BS. Just because Rowling thinks their marriage may not work doesn't mean they don't have real feelings for each other.
And why don't James, Lily, and Rose have more than bit parts? Why do Hugo and the other Weasley grandkids--or other Weasley kids/Molly and Arthur, for that matter?--not appear?
In the Malfoy Manor bit in Book 7, why did nobody notice Bellatrix was 8 months pregnant?!
It's all BS.
No offense but I did like that Malfoy was the moral compass he has matured it has been 19 years he is not that little kid throwing around
racial slurs at Hermione because he had a crush on but couldn't admit his feelings even to himself, also I agree with J.K. Rowling their marriage clearly doesn't work who gets drunk at their wedding night, but yes they do love
each other but doesn't their marriage works, also I prefer Dramione along with many of the Harry Potter cast other than that I do agree with you.
Draco was the best thing about this book to be honest. After Scorpius I.e.
She was 8 MONTHS PREGNANT??
@@yaeleah0722 apperantly during the deathly hallows Bellatrix gave birth to Delphini (at the Malfoy Manor) whatS even more bizarre is that the father is Voldemort..... ill let that sink in
Scorpius and draco are the best things in the book
The Cursed Child book very obviously takes place in the version of the wizarding world depicted in the film franchise, not the main books. For instance, the maze in the Third Task of the Triwizard Tournament in Cursed Child lacks monsters or obstacles like the one in the books, and the hedges instead attack the people in the maze like in the films. When I got to that part in the book I realized I'm not reading a bonafide Harry Potter sequel, but some sort of sequel to the movie franchise, which I've aways regarded as less-than-canon and a sort of parallel reality from the book series. Adult Harry is kind of an arrogant asshole in Cursed Child as well, which is a vibe one sometimes gets from Daniel Radcliffe's Harry, but
not so much from the literary Harry. I can't imagine that someone like Harry would actually talk to his kids the way he does and fail to understand life like an ordinary parent. And the stage production of Cursed Child has other elements in addition to the basic outline of the script that differ from the main books, and the film series.
People forget that there were a few years where Harry Potter existed without the films; all sorts of merchandise and media existed in that time that had nothing to do with the film series or its actors; the films all have widely differing styles that the different directors imparted on the series; and they basically are other people's imaginative take on Rowling's world. Which I suspect Cursed Child also is, though her name is attached to it. Harry Potter was originally a very open-ended concept that people could fill with their own imagination, and I've always felt the movie franchise took that away a lot :(
JamesR Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. It's a little disheartening to see a movie adaptation overshadow the book, even though I still like the Harry Potter films I've seen. Part of the book series' magic comes from the author and the medium and so of course everything else is part of the group franchise and reimagining.
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They ruined all the characters in the cursed child.
1. Harry: Harry would NEVER tell his OWN SON “I sometimes wish you weren’t my son!”
2. Ron: Ron is more of a chill character, yet in the cursed child he basically replaces Fred (spoilers) because he died! I know Ron makes a couple jokes sometimes but he isn’t supposed to be a reincarnation of Fred 😂
3. Hermione: I never imagined HERMIONE to be a minister for magic! Of course I think she could be helping out house elves but SHE CANNOT BE a minister for magic
4. Cedric: When I read what Cedric has become, I just got so mad. I don’t think the writers even read the books! Cedric was a: nice, kind, smart, loyal, responsible. I can’t believe they would make him a death eater because he LOST a STUPID TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT. I’m really upset about this and I think JK Rowling should have rewrote the story
Ginny: Ok Ginny I always didn’t like Ginny. She was really irrelevant and I don’t think she would ever assume HARRY said something rude to his son. Yes he did say something rude to Albus but GINNY would not ASSUME
Albus Potter: He turned into an absolute brat! He isn’t great full to be Harry’s son when he knows Harry is famous. He hates Harry. Plus I didn’t think a POTTER would EVER be in Slytherin!
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@@ohlookitscorn. a youtuber who does theory’s and stuff (he does hunger games, Harry Potter, Avatar the last airbender etc)
Could you please make a book with this in it and more please I would read that every night before bed 👍👍👍👍👍👍.
Katarina Brunk Gosh, i'd love to, but i don't want to get copyrighted.
*Cough* Sorting hat wanted to place Harry in slytherin before he asked that he didnt want to be in it *cough cough*
But excluding that, i wholly agree! My friend lent me their cursed child book and after reading that i was just left sitting there
I thimk j.k rowling should announce that the cursed child is fan fiction and rewrite it herself with no other authors involved and with a completely different plot,like if you agree
Mariam Sesiashvili no cause jk Rowling did not wrrrite it
thats what i'm saying lol,
since she did not write it she should announce the cursed child fan fiction and write it herself
yeah. With this plot: ua-cam.com/video/TSQJ9W4SxiQ/v-deo.html
Unfortunately she would face legal troubles if she did take this statement back (from fans who where tricked into buying it for it being the 8th book and also from procuders of the show who where granted permission to make the 8th story but then stripped of it later on. #breach of contract). But one can dream right? XD
Rowling wouldn't throw the creators she worked with, the staff and the cast of the stage play under the bus like that. That's not how things work in adult world.
+Drace90
The creators/writers deserve to get thrown under the bus (literally) and i think that noone blames the cast for this... this... thing.
Two things:
1) literally no one disagrees with Seamus on this. It's almost as hated as Umbridge
2)If you've watched AVPM, you know that Voldemort obviously loves Quirrell, not Bellatrix
Random Pianist it's sad the time travel was handled better in a fan work than in "cannon"
The Cursed child can feel like a mixture of AVPM and My Immortal at times...
Random Pianist any comment about AVPM is one that I like
honestly if you want a canon harry potter play, just watch AVPM
I know right? At one point I was reading The Cursed child and just set it down, leaned back and said " Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way" And then covered my face and started giggling because it was so bad. I can't remember which part it was though.
I hope JK can state it is non-canon at a future time. Failing to write off James, Lily, Hugo, & Rose to near-irrelevant characters is also a sin.
One final piece of evidence that the cursed child is fanfiction ....
The epilogue in the deathly hallows is DIFFERENT to the beginning of the cursed child!!! If the beginning of cursed child is different to the real story, then the rest of it is made up too!
the second I read the 3rd page was when I realized that jk had not wrote this. In Deathly Hallows Ginny told James to show Neville love. Then in rubbish Cursed Child, Hermione is the one that told Rose to show Neville love. First I thought that she had lost her memory of Deathly Hallows but then I realized that it wasn't her that wrote it, it was one of the other 2 blokes she worked with? Siriusly am I the only one that spoted this mistake?
xannie trust me that was one of the biggest issues I had with this book
Payed $20+ for this rubbish and read maybe 5 pages before i had to pack it away, its not even sitting with my Harry Potter collection. Was truly horrible to read.
its a very minor mistake, though. And would this be the only problem this book/play has i would love it. Unfortunately there are much more, much bigger problems with it. Pointing at this mistake is like entering a room whiches walls are full of fecies and complaining that the tea cloth on the table is wrinkled.
I'd rather remove the shit and then care for the tea cloth.
Ngl I love Scorpius and Draco in this and that’s the only good thing.Scorpius is a great Slytherin
I don't consider the Cursed Child cannon. I don't like the way Harry treated Albus. The only thing I really liked about it was that Albus was a slytherin and He became friends with Scorpius. Those are the only things I accept as part of the Harry Potter Universe. I feel the worst part of the books (minis the whole mess of time travel that The Doctor couldn't even keep track of) was how Harry basically tossed Albus aside, yeah it kind of was "solved" at the end but I feel like it should have never happened in the first place.
I agree.
i agree too
FINALLY!!!!!!!! SOMEONE STANDS UP TO THIS BULLSHIT. Cursed child is like fanfiction written by someone who only watched the goblet of fire movie. And believe me when i say this, Harry 'snogging' Krum sounds more realistic
Hriday Mehta so ur saying Harry is ... gay
Plus isn't Cedric DEAD! how can a dead person become evil! The're DEAD!!!
P.S. Hufflepuff rules!!💛🖤🖤💛🖤🖤💛🖤🖤💛🖤🖤💛
Walk it off Um... Hermione being single is much more realistic than Hermione being with Draco. They have no chemistry and he's super racist towards her. Even Hermione and Harry have no chemistry, they're like siblings.
Haha oh my god.
Emma Wilson Cedric doesn't die in the cursed child he is humiliated and leaves the tournament. What I think makes him to evil is that he thrived on his good looks and his popularity and that kind of humiliation just really got to him and made him snap. To quote serius black, "everybody has lightness and darkness in them. Life isn't split into good people and death eaters."
Me: *Reads title*
Also me:
I’m sorry, is that even a question?
Him: Cedric kills Neville
Me: Oh ok.
Wait...WHAT?!!!!!!!
I'm so early let me make a joke
Seamus' sister's knowledge of films
SaintAsassin718 XD
SaintAsassin718 Ohhhhh bur(r)n
Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh 🙅
P.S. I choose to make that emoji a dab
Senpai noticed me omg
LOL... Well she does consider Shrek a Pixar movie. WTF
I thought I was the only one. I started reading it and I hated it!
HUFFLEPUFF PRIDE! Badger's forever!
Bailey Dreemurr
#HufflePride
Bailey Dreemurr anyone in year 9!?
Bailey Dreemurr I'm a hufflepuff #Hufflepride
Bailey Dreemurr *high five*
Bailey Dreemurr #hufflepuff4life
No it's like the 9th season of Scrubs we're just going to refuse to acknowledge it's existence!
I liked the ninth season of scrubs
Ciaran O'Donovan Is that when they replaced JD with some girl?
kaylatara paskoski jepp. abysmal choices, but parts of season 9 were still entertaining and they didn't betray the original characters as much. so it will always be better than the cursed child
Milo O'Rourke omg will you stop being a hell of a fanboy
Cursed Child is terrible fanfiction - Voldemort having a daughter is directly from My Immortal, the notorious terrible fanfiction.
Making Cedric a Death Eater shows that the writers have never actually read the books, just the blurbs!
The time travel of the Cursed Child is a game changer that totally invalidates the entire series. Now everything could have been solved by this kind of time turner.
My only question about Cursed Child is who the everloving FCK thought that making Bellamort canon was a GOOD IDEA
Bryony The Overthinking Pigeon omg ikr
She was actually in love with him (j.k ROWLING SAID THIS) and Voldie cried out when she died
+FandomCosplayer she also said people born of love potions literally cannot feel love and that Bellatrix was wearing a corset at like all times
let's see you hide a baby under a corset
Not even just that, she supposedly gave birth right before the battle of Hogwarts, or you know when she was torturing Hermione!
Leah Davis I heard about that, I was like "wtf?" but honestly at first I didn't know that Bellatrix was married into the Lestrange blood-line I thought that was just her last name from her side of the black family and because of how she acts around Voldemort they can easily be shipped.
OMG Seamus I Agree With You. BTW Your Awesome, Keep Up The Work.
PS. Are You Going To Do More Pixar Theorys. I Love Them. 😊
*You're
And not every word needs to be capitalized..
Dalia Alegria don't be a dick
Lea Danev Sorry, I just can't help it.
Voldemort cannot feel love... yet he still has a child with Bellatrix.
I hate the cursed child. It's more like a fanfic than an actual J.K Rowling story. Harry is too angry, Albus is too rebellious E.C Also I think Delphini is the cursed child. Also I think any die hard fans won't accept anyone, apart from Emma Watson, playing Hermione
This is what I think happened:
Jack Thorne and John Tiffany go to JK Rowling and say, "We'd like to make a Harry Potter play. But not about Harry. About Albus and Scorpius. We were thinking that they'd both be in Slytherin."
JKR: "Oh. What's the conflict going to be?"
JT&JT: "Well, we were thinking about exploring time turners a little bit, and the dangers of judging people before you get to know them. We're going to have to be really careful to avoid messing with the timeline, though..."
JKR: "No. No, you won't. You get my approval only on the condition that you fuck with the timeline as much as possible."
JT&JT: "Wait, really?"
JKR: "Yes. I told them all that messing with time is a bad idea. I demonstrated that time travel is only safe to use when it preserves the timeline, which is, fortunately, somewhat resilient. But despite all my best efforts, people have been badgering me for the past decade, saying, "Well, they should have used the time-turner more. They should have gone back and killed Voldemort before his rise to power. They should have kept it as an ace-in-the-hole for every time something goes wrong." And I'm sick of it. I want you to end it. Show them all beyond any shadow of a doubt just how awful things get when wizards meddle with time. Make them all suffer for their sins."
And honestly, I can't blame her. I probably would have done the same thing.
I don't think the characters *IN* Harry Potter know how time turners work. Hermione in PoA says "Clearly there's something that Dumbledore wants us to change!" Except you can't change anything. Considering Hermione had been using it all year and... well she's *Hermione,* that seems pretty weird to me... Theory on that maybe?
I think AVPM is more cannon then cursed child, in fact I believe cursed child as a fan fiction
When you say Cedric Diggory could have been Head Boy so wouldn't have become a Death Eater. Tom Riddle and Lucius Malfoy were Prefects but only Tom Riddle became Head Boy. Meaning some of the Dark Side were 'good' during school
Brocky Junior Lucias was a prefect
Brocky Junior those were Slytherin not Hufflepuff like completely different personalities being embarrassed would have made Cedric cry not want revenge lol. Plus Hufflepuff are loyal kind and friendly soooo not much in common with voldamort or any other Slytherin.. im a ravenclaw btw
PS. They don't have to be "good" to be a perfect they have to have good grades and riddle got it by lying about hagrid so that's not nice is it pretty evil...
It means they could behave and respect the rules, not that they were good people. Cedric was a genuinely good person with a kind heart. He loved people (his family, his friends and girlfriend) and was loved in return. He could never have been a death eater.
Though Cedric Diggory was a fantastic person and embodied his house, even the best of people have limits and can be affected by how others around them treat them or make them feel alone. Fear as well can make us do crazy things and Cedric though he didn't like his father boasting could have had fear about not living up to what he thought his father wanted.
"I never saw Hermione going into politics" SHE LITTERALLY STARTED S.P.E.W
And?
Benjamin Peterson
She also literally said in the series that she isn’t into politics.
Granted, she was eighteen, but still...
"Hermione becoming Minister Of Magic.." Also Hermione randomly being black out of nowhere.
Title: does the cursed child RUIN the Harry Potter series??
Me: Yes. A million times yes.
I’m with you man. The only thing I consider cannon is Albus and Scorpias being friends.
A better cursed child is “19 Years Later” inspired by AustinMcConnel. Look it up.
In the Goblet of Fire, Cedric Diggory offered for Harry to go forward and win, so why would he be so upset with losing?
I'm confused on that too, and also. Didn't Cedric die???? I'm confused over that.
Because the morons who wrote this terrible book know absolutely nothing about the real harry potter books or any of the characters
As soon as I clicked on this I got a cursed child ad...
Creepy 😂.
Anyone don't like the fact there is like 10 pages of year one
Knowing that Belatrix and Vodermort had a child just got me thinking they were making babies
WTF BRAIN
I’m shocked that you didn’t mention the ‘Ron loves Hermione’ fireworks
The only good thing about The cursed child is Albus and Scorpius! I mean how can you not love them!!
true though
Twenty Øne CryBabies that's true
I don't like Albus. BUT WHO DOESN'T LIKE SCORPIUS
Great video, I have a possible video for you, why does Joy glow the brightest?
Starfire Hestia it's because she is the head emotion
Brookeinabook If so, shouldn't she stop glowing as brightly at the end? Correct me if im wrong, but she still glows brightest at the end
I personally think she glows because she represents happiness, which is associated with things,like the sun, the color yellow and bright things!
Well her mother and father's joy or lead emotion don't glow
Snow_Cherry _4909 hmmmm I don't remember...... well, who knows. I agree then! Why does she still glow the brightest at the end?
The only thing I feel like people should consider cannon as post hp storyline is 1. scorpius malfoy being the kindest person you'll ever meet and a slytherin soft boy (because hell yeah, also I fluff with the idea of draco malfoy raising his child on actual good morals and not making the same mistakes his parents made with him) and 2. albus and scorpius's friendship because dang it makes me soft. Everything else can rot in
tartarus.
I don’t agree with Scorpius being a softie. If he’s a Slytherin, he’s got to have some Slytherin traits. I’d rather have a shy and distrusting Scorpius or a snarky outcasted Scorpius and make Scorpius Albus’s second best friend. Make him more Scorpio, not Cancer.
What I hated most was Nevile and Luna didn't have kids and Cedric Digery became a death eater
I geus we just think of it as a failed experiment. like J.K Rowling just playing around, and showing us how totally different the series could be.
Jack Roberson jk Rowling did not wrrite it
I agree with most your points Seamus. Some flashback scenes and quotes were well made in my opinion such as Amos questioning Harry how many people died for him and a flashback scene with Petunia and Harry.
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is a science fiction book about time travel descised as a harry potter book.
Someone's been watching austinmcconnell....!!
Still haven't read it. Watching this anyway:/
Tori Wood boooooooooooooo
Laurel Morgan lol love you Laurel😂💕 I'm re-reading the rest of the books first
Tori Wood same. I'm a slightly optimistic slytherin though, so I'm not really judging.
me too
same
Just don't accept it as canon. I know that Rowling tweeted requesting it to be accepted as canon however,the book heavily contradicts what she already wrote
Anyway,there aren't even character profiles of albus and Scorpius in pottermore.
I have the slytherin version of your pillow ^-^
I'm thinking of getting all four but I got my house first at Universal Studios.
who elses favourite character is Scorpius? am i the only one?
hi there me
He's the best character!
Can we at least keep him canon
hi there yasssss and the actor is from Belfast and went to my mums old school
Scorpius Hyperion Malfoy is a smol cinnamonroll and must be protected at all costs
It feels like there was a contest to find the worst fanfiction and turn it into a play. Not to mention all the plotholes. JK said the timeturner in Prisoner of Azkaban was a mistake, but what do these 2 'authors' introduce a super-overpowered version of it. I mean instead of trying to save Cedric, why didn't they just try to stop Voldemort from entering Hogwarts? Or maybe leave a message like "Madeye Moody is Barty Crouch in disguise please check it out? Use Veritaserium?" What's Albus and Scorpius motivation; why would they try to safe sb they never met? Oh wait, they do it for their old pal Amos Diggory. Now it all makes perfect sense.
If Cedric was a death eater..
that means he survived
so he was spared
so the prophecy is complete
so there was was no need to mess it up in the maze
and he definitely survived, because he killed neville
in the battle of hogwarts
which is after GoF
which is when he originally died
MIND BLOWN😱
we really need a mind blown emoji