Explained: The NEW Champions League, Europa League & Europa Conference League format 😮🗂️

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  • @marlonherr8013
    @marlonherr8013 19 днів тому +474

    RIP good old Champions League times

    • @predatorx8081
      @predatorx8081 18 днів тому +16

      Fr... this is utter bs

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 15 днів тому +19

      This is better.

    • @theghostofbabanovac7069
      @theghostofbabanovac7069 15 днів тому +15

      @@caven7056 this is way worse, other teams besides the ones from England, France, Spain, Italy & Germany will barely have chances to qualify

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 15 днів тому +6

      @@theghostofbabanovac7069 don't pretend as if you give a crap about leagues that aren't from the big 6/7. Who watches the polish league

    • @theghostofbabanovac7069
      @theghostofbabanovac7069 15 днів тому +3

      @@caven7056 I would watch Legia, Lech or Wisla in a league of their own if they were able to retain players like Lewandowski, Zielinski, Kiwior or Zalewski or i would watch a Dinamo Zagreb side with Modric, Lovren and Brozovic playing in Europe if i knew they have the best players from Croatia in their ranks but in order for these clubs to do that they need to have money and in order to have money they need a decent opportunity, chance to compete at a higher level....oh wait that's not happening so i guess there is a vicious system in place that favors the rich clubs. Do you mean to tell me that a Red Star Belgrade team from 1991 with a world class midfield comprised of Sinisa Mihajlovic, Vladimir Jugovic, Robert Prosinecki and Dejan Savicevic wasn't more exciting to watch than a Tottenham vs Newcastle ? But those were the old days when things were much fairer, i say let's bring back the foreigner limit (no more than 3 or 2 foreigners per squad or per 1st eleven) and see then how much c...p will you give to many football clubs from the big 6/7.

  • @ThaOneBigAndSmallOne
    @ThaOneBigAndSmallOne 16 днів тому +437

    Who is here after all premier league teams were eliminated & German „farmer league“ might have 6 teams in champions league LMAO

    • @TankJr.
      @TankJr. 14 днів тому

      🤡

    • @gurung1812
      @gurung1812 14 днів тому +11

      cry harder efl fan

    • @Wardell.Koloi10037
      @Wardell.Koloi10037 14 днів тому +7

      Lol this falls on the FA and their stubbornness prioritising Carabao cups when they should belong to lower leagues

    • @MrSuperMichel1997
      @MrSuperMichel1997 13 днів тому +5

      I'm here right before the second leg happens between PSG & BVB, funny to see this!

    • @jminjarez7206
      @jminjarez7206 13 днів тому +9

      I’m here laughing at this clown after BVB advances to the final lol
      Heja BVB🖤💛

  • @joeg5688
    @joeg5688 2 місяці тому +954

    You're not fooling anyone with this super league nonsense.

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 2 місяці тому +46

      This is uefa last chance to hold off the clubs breaking away from their control. The big clubs want more big matches between each other and this format is designed to give them that.

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 2 місяці тому +63

      This literally balances out everything and makes it far more entertaining, you are just too slow to see it

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@magicboy-cn1yb it's only about the money because it's big matches the rest of the world wants to see.

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@bionicgeekgrrl at it's worst (other than the harm of more games) its smaller clubs giving up some revenue for the chance to actually win games. If you're a fan of a smaller club and you're happy to get mauled by real madrid in exchange for an extra bit of cash, over a game you can actually win, you've got no pride as a football fan.

    • @Trac3r.
      @Trac3r. 2 місяці тому +2

      it isn't ESL this new format of CL works well in simulation I know I been Simming it

  • @djmattblack
    @djmattblack 2 місяці тому +818

    No doubt managers next season will complain there's too many matches

    • @bushmonster1702
      @bushmonster1702 2 місяці тому +64

      there are

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому +3

      Rotate

    • @kleec495
      @kleec495 2 місяці тому +37

      @@caven7056 Not every teams are Man City.

    • @Jout8-re1ij
      @Jout8-re1ij 2 місяці тому +16

      Eight matches up from six in group stage is not that much more, when its only two games more, but weird how they added round of 32 technically, because the 9-24 placed teams will play against eachother twice, unitil the winner gets to play in the round of 16.

    • @Thomas-zs5wt
      @Thomas-zs5wt 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@Jout8-re1ijthey added the round of 32 because they had an unnecessary amount of teams that nobody likes in a changed format nobody wanted

  • @user-vd4jc8ws2k
    @user-vd4jc8ws2k 2 місяці тому +451

    Football does not need to change. Uefa are casually playing fifa career mode with everyone

    • @abody499
      @abody499 2 місяці тому +18

      "it's generally accepted that the group stages of the CL are not as exciting as they should be"
      This is because English clubs buy all the best players from around Europe, weakening a lot of teams in the champions league whose best players often go and play for clubs who aren't in the champions league.
      Football needs to change.

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@abody499they aren't boring because the best players aren't playing in them. They're boring because if you're the worst team in a group, the only thing you can realistically play for is to drop down to Europa.

    • @abody499
      @abody499 2 місяці тому +3

      @roychen5235 Why do you think Sevilla, Benfica, Lens, Salzburg, Feyenoord, Shakhtar, and others could only "realistically play...to drop down to Europa"? And it's not just those teams - even the better teams like Porto, Leipzig, and PSV lose their best players to English teams not playing in the CL.
      The quality of the teams playing in the CL has dropped in recent years because of this. It used to be more skewed towards the mid teams losing players to the top teams, then the mid teams buying from those below them, but now there are more and more players going to mid English clubs from all but the very top teams.
      That's why it would be better to watch the top 16 teams in 2 leagues of 8 playing each other home and away with the top 4 in each league going to a knockout phase. And in the new CL format, there's no balance of home and away fixtures against the same teams.

    • @Jout8-re1ij
      @Jout8-re1ij 2 місяці тому +8

      Football has always changed over time. Maybe you are too young to see the last time Champions League changed. I think this might be even bit better, because in the small groups you already know who will go through and who dosent, so its not that exciting to follow them, while in this big league we can see how well the clubs are currently preforming at football by seeing how many points they snatch after eight games with eight diffrent opponents.

    • @KC_604
      @KC_604 2 місяці тому

      @@abody499it’s cuz the leagues they play in either laliga or serie A only have a handful of top clubs competing for the league title race atleast in the EPL you can be a mega star and still have good stats while playing on a mid team which is alot more rewarding financially and legacy wise other then staying in a league where Madrid and Barca or ac and inter all are at the top of there leagues every season so I’d want to go to the premier league to if I was on athletico ,Dormundt, etc a team that’s good but not good enough to do anything in there own leagues regardless of how well they do in the UCL

  • @ventsislavyuzekchiev8304
    @ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 2 місяці тому +401

    The only thing a don't like is that they want to give one more place for top 5 leagues, instead of giving it to a real Champions like in Poland, Czechia etc

    • @TheOriginalEwan
      @TheOriginalEwan 2 місяці тому +94

      Never been a comment I agreed with so much before in my life. We’re supposed to believe this is the ‘champions’ league yet there’s more losers in here, who finished as far down as 5th domestically, than actual champions, who have to settle for a 3rd tier competition just to get European games under their belt.

    • @sahibsahota2368
      @sahibsahota2368 2 місяці тому +47

      The 10th team in the premier league is significantly better than the champions of Czechia or Poland

    • @ventsislavyuzekchiev8304
      @ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 2 місяці тому +101

      @@sahibsahota2368 that’s not the point isn’t. It’s called the “ Champions “
      League and teams from 5th place will qualify while the real champions need to go through qualifiers. How the football in the Eastern Europe or other countries can compete against top 5 when they don’t let them to win money

    • @sach98
      @sach98 2 місяці тому +25

      @@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 unfortunate reality is that most viewers want to see top 5 league teams play

    • @TheOriginalEwan
      @TheOriginalEwan 2 місяці тому +36

      @@sach98 TL;DR “I prefer seeing xyz club” is a dumb argument.
      personally I’m sick of seeing the same 20+ teams play each other in the same group/knockout round every single season. Idc if more people wanna see Liverpool(serial PL losers) play Athletico Madrid every year. People wonder why clubs from Northern Ireland or Lichtenstein never get into Europe, it’s because they have to play 6-8 games home and away just to get into the _group stage,_ where they’ll be handed an impossible group because they’re so far down the coefficient rankings. They can’t get better if they’re annually put against richer clubs that get byes to the later rounds.

  • @horacioderpington5698
    @horacioderpington5698 2 місяці тому +510

    Thanks, I hate it!

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 2 місяці тому +14

      That's cus you don't like football, this is an objective improvement

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 2 місяці тому +25

      ​@@Mdksupreme1 No. You can like football and not like this new format.

    • @arkangel2000
      @arkangel2000 2 місяці тому

      we dont like American football format. thanx.@@Mdksupreme1

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 2 місяці тому +11

      @Diogo85 this format is objectively an improvement, you're just slow if you don't like it and you claim you like football

    • @horacioderpington5698
      @horacioderpington5698 2 місяці тому +16

      @@Mdksupreme1 are you good mate? You're fighting the opinion of a rando online with such vitriol I'm starting to think you're an Infantino burner account.

  • @jeroenska.
    @jeroenska. 7 днів тому +7

    Why are they fixing something that isn't broken?

  • @TheRealCurtisWright
    @TheRealCurtisWright 2 місяці тому +237

    The fact that UEFA said “why would we rig the draw at the league stage?” just admits their guilt to rigging the system at some point 😂

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +17

      Everyone can see the system is rigged. The big clubs don't face each other in the group stage right now. Most of the people in these comments are complaining about things that already happen in the current format.

    • @TheRealCurtisWright
      @TheRealCurtisWright 2 місяці тому +4

      @@roychen5235 100%, you see it every year. Everyone knew City would draw Copenhagen this year

    • @roughead6469
      @roughead6469 2 місяці тому +5

      Translation: we will rig the knockout stages

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому +2

      @TheRealCurtisWright wow do you even understand how the pots work?

    • @greenjacketman9321
      @greenjacketman9321 2 місяці тому +3

      @@roychen5235 Bro that's because for the draw they're divided in different pots 🤦‍♂

  • @simonb1996
    @simonb1996 2 місяці тому +128

    It's not fair for the top leagues to have so many teams.
    The financial gap between these clubs and great clubs of old is too big as it is, due to those clubs of old not being able to qualify as it is.

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +1

      Not really, England has to actually play for an extra spot. Right now, the top 5 leagues don't have to care about their coefficient (I.e., making their domestic leagues competitive).

    • @StephenWong14
      @StephenWong14 2 місяці тому +1

      If you don't like, then you should probably support the Super League where teams from the top league break away from the Champions League and form their own leagues. There are then more places for the champions of smaller nations to play in the Champions League.

  • @Froxdj
    @Froxdj 2 місяці тому +76

    this is stupid, lost me after the league stage, feel sorry for the players, so many games.

    • @alexanderivkin7086
      @alexanderivkin7086 26 днів тому +4

      Yes, 4 more games if you finish 9-24. 2 more games if you finish 1-8. Conclusion: Win all 8 games!

    • @johnhonai4601
      @johnhonai4601 14 днів тому +2

      The problem is you are ranked in a league table in which you don't play all teams in the league. That's unfair.

    • @DaxRaider
      @DaxRaider 11 днів тому

      they get millions and still no bigger risk then in some other hard working jobs that paid minimum wage xD

    • @collinstjebane7203
      @collinstjebane7203 6 днів тому +1

      That coefficient table got me good. lol

  • @saidhammar5006
    @saidhammar5006 21 день тому +42

    Don't run from the topic please, it's not a problem of complexity. The league format will advantage giant teams, City will top that table every single season. Under dogs will never be able to make it. Big teams will play big teams everyday, killing the excitement of big games. And small teams will get back where they belong in the deep bottom of that table and will never reach the big stages again, will never make a surprise again. This format is the very opposite of improving excitement.

  • @user-rz9od5rz7v
    @user-rz9od5rz7v 2 місяці тому +42

    If it wasn’t about money… why does the conference league only still play 6 games

  • @MarkSide_
    @MarkSide_ 2 місяці тому +199

    This is dumb, we need to protest.

    • @Michael-cz6ob
      @Michael-cz6ob 2 місяці тому +26

      Nobody protested about the corruption of the world cup being hosted in Russia, Qatar and soon to be Saudi Arabia. You think they'll do it for this? Football fans are weak, they'll ignore most things as long as there's matches to be watched

    • @MarkSide_
      @MarkSide_ 2 місяці тому +7

      @@Michael-cz6ob They can’t be getting away with this!!! 😫😭😭

    • @viper2413
      @viper2413 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Michael-cz6obThey tried it with Qatar but then all those who argued against it also turned up. Money talks…

    • @alexsilk2611
      @alexsilk2611 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Michael-cz6obnobody protested? Plenty of fans did. People just didn't listen

    • @Michael-cz6ob
      @Michael-cz6ob 2 місяці тому +2

      @@alexsilk2611 When you say 'protested' do you mean just complained on the Internet? Just falls on death ears. Look at the viewership for the Qatar World Cup it was still high viewing figures so they know regardless how much people complain they'll still watch

  • @DarreBet
    @DarreBet 2 місяці тому +54

    why why destroy something good?

  • @iamcosta
    @iamcosta 2 місяці тому +34

    Uefa will rigged the draws imagine Aston Villa vs Real Madrid 😂. That's not gonna sell as Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid or Inter Milan

    • @danh945
      @danh945 2 місяці тому +16

      Aston Villa wouldn't be in pot 1.

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому +7

      Tell me you don't know ball

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm 20 днів тому +1

      Aston can't won EPL now. Pot 1 the best pot consist of UCL, UEL, and top 7 league winner. For now those pots would filled with Inter, Leverkusen, and PSG. (real Madrid, PSV, and Sporting might have huge potential but let's say if PSG won UCL or Leverkusen won UEL the spot would given to 8th league champions which most likely Union this season)

    • @DaxRaider
      @DaxRaider 11 днів тому +1

      @@justinsm union what ? you expect us to know what the 8th league is ? xD

    • @sunilnarine6313
      @sunilnarine6313 День тому +1

      its okay to rig, if you are champion you have to beat anybody to reach final just like real madird did in 2021 season.

  • @bastian7pl
    @bastian7pl 2 місяці тому +73

    This new system is only favorable to the owners. The fans, players, managers are extremely against it!

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 2 місяці тому +4

      This is the entire point. It's uefas last dice roll against the big clubs taking their teams away from their control.

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому +7

      Don't speak for every fan. Some of us actually want to see bigger games

    • @mezoori
      @mezoori 2 місяці тому +2

      explain why you are against it

    • @alanfox691
      @alanfox691 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@mezoori
      If you cant understand that then you have a massive problem that no one can ever help you with.

    • @brandonjablasone7544
      @brandonjablasone7544 28 днів тому +3

      @@alanfox691maybe you should explain instead of insulting. I see the problem but not everybody think like you. The only problem is that there are way too much game for the team and players. It's going to be a lot of injuries in the up coming years

  • @Szobo81
    @Szobo81 2 місяці тому +56

    How do you make the top teams happy by giving more games to play risking more injuries

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +5

      The managers will complain because it makes their jobs much harder but for the clubs more games = more money. That'd be the case no matter who they play (see preseason friendlies).

    • @kleec495
      @kleec495 2 місяці тому

      More games > more money > better players and bigger squad ideally

    • @oliverhughes419
      @oliverhughes419 2 місяці тому

      Money

    • @dragonslayer0
      @dragonslayer0 11 днів тому

      ​@@kleec495not on a stretcher or with crutches

  • @alisalim9289
    @alisalim9289 2 місяці тому +63

    Too complex. Let's wait and see how it pans out.

    • @randomdaveUK
      @randomdaveUK 2 місяці тому +14

      It's actually more straightforward. It's just a league with cutoffs.
      No different to a lower league with playoffs.
      Top teams go to knockouts. Teams below have a one off match to get through. Others are out. Pretty simple.
      Not sure whether I prefer it, let's see what it's like

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 2 місяці тому +2

      It's no more complicated after league phase. No home away with every team in smaller groups. Only ends up being 2 more games per team and they potentially have less travelling to worry about.
      Plus they get rid of dropping down the competition. So teams eliminated will have a lot less games, so staying in the competition will be even more important as they will risk huge drop offs in ma5ch and prize money.

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 2 місяці тому +6

      It's not complex at all, you're just slow

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +2

      The end result is just a table of teams from 1-36. It gets more complex the more you care about trying to predict what the result will be. But at the end of the day it is just a table like any domestic league.

    • @237gospel
      @237gospel 2 місяці тому

      Real "Champions League"

  • @Dinyo55
    @Dinyo55 2 місяці тому +61

    The software has algorithms in it. As long as there are algorithms involved, you cannot guarantee a fair draw. Google AI proved that bias and nonsense can be factored into a software very easily.

    • @jacksmith694
      @jacksmith694 2 місяці тому +7

      But hey they have top accounting firms and more software to make sure they don’t get it wrong, we should be okay😂

    • @aceking_offsuit
      @aceking_offsuit 2 місяці тому

      In all fairness, the ones you're talking about involves aspects that are meant to interact with people and 'learn' from them. The systems that will be creating the schedules won't be doing any of that. They'll basically be doing combinatorics to create schedules that follow specific rules (2 from each group, no opponents from X league, etc.), which is what the algorithms are very good at.

    • @gerit14
      @gerit14 15 днів тому +3

      AI != software
      With a simple algorithm you can surely make certain it is actually neutral.

    • @superdrz2196
      @superdrz2196 12 днів тому

      I guess you are not a Fan of math

    • @goodman4093
      @goodman4093 День тому

      Software
      Import random
      teams = [ 36 clubs ]
      Man city opponents =[]
      For i in range(8):
      Man city_draws = random.choice(teams)
      If Man city_draws not in Man City_opponents: mancity_opponents.append(Man city_draws)

  • @saidmo3323
    @saidmo3323 8 днів тому +2

    Why fix something that is not broken??!

  • @chrisbarker890
    @chrisbarker890 2 місяці тому +107

    Are you serious???? The draw is made by a computer !!

    • @alanfox691
      @alanfox691 2 місяці тому

      Basically read that as
      U.E.F.A. want to descise the reality if it being fixed so certain club's they favour more than others play each other when they need them to play each other to generate maximum revenue.
      This is all about revenue nothing else.
      Football in Europe is starting to lose all credibility there is to much money at stake now In European football I strongly suspect the mast majority of
      European Leagues are to some extent rigged.

    • @imposter2.024
      @imposter2.024 25 днів тому +3

      Right like why fix something that is not broken this is not a good format

    • @jameswright4236
      @jameswright4236 15 днів тому

      UEFA simply can't win.
      Do it digitally, there's claims of corruption. Do it manually, claims of corruption as the "hot balls" are supposedly avoided.
      Hence why I feel they should send it to an entirely independent third party. Hell, just go out and randomly pick someone off the street or someone that has no interest in the sport whatsoever so as to prevent claims of a fix.

    • @AdamAzMcLean
      @AdamAzMcLean 7 днів тому +1

      The same ‘computer’ processes helped you type that comment. The future is now.

    • @brettharter143
      @brettharter143 День тому

      Writihg the comment isnt the same as choosing teams in a commercial setting^
      Its rife for corruption....

  • @yawfraser
    @yawfraser 2 місяці тому +57

    They should have just kept the old format and just do away with teams falling from the Champions league to the Europa when they place 3rd

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 2 місяці тому +10

      Yes, elimination should always have meant total elimination.

  • @user-ci4iu4ci2p
    @user-ci4iu4ci2p 13 днів тому +3

    So basically it does not even matter if you are in pot 1 or 4 with the draw ? because you will draw 2 teams from each pot anyway ? Even as a pot 1 team you draw 2 teams from pot 1 ?

  • @BlueFlagAlpha
    @BlueFlagAlpha 2 місяці тому +15

    This is ridiculous. I dont think I will follow these competitions after this season is over.

  • @Eighty94
    @Eighty94 2 місяці тому +55

    Open your eyes people. They are slowly setting up the super leauges for the future. All european domestic Leagues will start to crumble as the divide between the big money clubs and the smaller clubs grows larger. These will be the only main 3 leauges in European top flight football.

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +5

      Thats already happened though, PSG didn't get Messi and Neymar to win Ligue 1. Most of the leagues in Europe only really have 1 or 2 teams that win it most years. The Domestic leagues "destroyed" themselves

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha 2 місяці тому +1

      Ever since some of the big clubs overspent to break the contract clause to get some players, those clubs then became too big for anyone to stop

    • @danielvandam
      @danielvandam 17 днів тому

      You need to lower the pitchfork buddy. Explain why this makes the divide bigger?

    • @Eighty94
      @Eighty94 17 днів тому

      @@danielvandam I’m not going to waste my time trying to help you understand basic economics. Hopefully one day you’ll be able to answer your own question

  • @user-jy3ww6fe3o
    @user-jy3ww6fe3o 2 місяці тому +9

    The way he says it like its nothing

  • @svokxz6435
    @svokxz6435 2 місяці тому +4

    I wish they did this like the Danish system(Swiss System) for the league phase so equally ranked teams actually play each other even if they play each other again.

  • @TheBillABCTV
    @TheBillABCTV 2 місяці тому +7

    Too many matches. They should have it knockout only.

  • @DionDavis14
    @DionDavis14 2 місяці тому +6

    The champions league should only be for the champions of each league. It's a shambles all these extra places / slots go to runner up clubs in the table. It's the champions league. If not, change the name of the competition. But of course, it's all for the money...
    Money, money, money! 💸

    • @costelstan5279
      @costelstan5279 25 днів тому +4

      Imagine a team never been domestic league champion but ending up being European champion idk it's weird to me

  • @ayrton56612
    @ayrton56612 Місяць тому +28

    I don't want to see the best opponents face eacht other right from the starts. That is what the knock out stage is for. If they want the group stage to be more exciting they should go the old format with less teams and no relegation to a lower league. Elimination is elimination.

  • @Yautja24
    @Yautja24 19 днів тому +3

    If there is a superleauge i would not watch. The beauty of football is become the champion of your country and let those champions compete of the ultimate prize (CL).
    A Superleagu would mean all football history (domestic titles) don't mean a thing anymore. you will have a cup with the same teams over and over, i don't care about. Also without small teams, there are no big teams. I would not watch it, or pay for it.
    Not a fan of the new CL/EL/ECL format. But let's try it. I am afraid it will be a Russian roulette who go's through first round.

  • @InstigatorDJ
    @InstigatorDJ 2 місяці тому +28

    Also how is England cooefficient lower than Italy and Germany? Literally been england teams in the last 5 years semis and finals including winners.

    • @poeticbradley3521
      @poeticbradley3521 2 місяці тому +11

      These coefficients are on a season by season basis so if English teams all do trash one season it’s likely we’d only have 4 teams in the ucl

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 2 місяці тому +21

      Italy had teams in the final of every European competition last season. It was a Milan derby in the semi finals of the champions league

    • @aespactzen880
      @aespactzen880 2 місяці тому +6

      Thanks to Man U and Newcastle for getting knocked out early in the group stage.

    • @Hello-wy2px
      @Hello-wy2px 2 місяці тому +1

      This isn’t about the last 5 years though now is it

    • @Michael-st9ky
      @Michael-st9ky 2 місяці тому +1

      I looked it up, getting out of the group gives more bonus points (5) than making it through to the finals (2).

  • @victorigwe4675
    @victorigwe4675 12 днів тому +3

    How are they going to get 36 teams in the europa league if only one or 2 teams from each league qualify??

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK 8 днів тому

      England gets 3 teams in it

    • @ShohruhShamanov
      @ShohruhShamanov День тому +1

      I know right, confusing me so much.

  • @Streetfussball
    @Streetfussball 2 місяці тому +56

    Basically a SUPER LEAGUE. 🤣

    • @abody499
      @abody499 2 місяці тому +5

      not at all like the super league

    • @FormulaProg
      @FormulaProg 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@abody499no it's worse and complicated

    • @andypandy4607
      @andypandy4607 2 місяці тому +1

      @@FormulaProgwhy is it worse

  • @kennethuyabeme
    @kennethuyabeme 13 годин тому +1

    I actually think this format is gonna be super fun. Really excited for how it's gonna be done the women's competition too.

  • @lewisstubbs6569
    @lewisstubbs6569 2 місяці тому +7

    Too many matches, lots of injuries will happen which will cause a need for rotation and the fans aren’t going to be able to afford to keep going to these games. It’s absolutely absurd. In a calendar which is already too full it’ll take away the excitement of the draw for the group stage instead have games decided by a computer. Once again UEFA only thinking about lining their own pockets not considering any grave consequences. I hope this new system horribly fails and they reconsider reverting back to the original system which was fine.

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому +2

      Two extra games. Calm down

    • @fyraga9654
      @fyraga9654 17 днів тому +1

      4 counting with the KO phase

  • @gn0015
    @gn0015 2 місяці тому +7

    I think even Kaveh was going through system reboot multiple times in his head trying to explain this mess.

  • @HXT_916
    @HXT_916 2 місяці тому +30

    UEFA are using horizon to do the draws. 😂

  • @Melvin.B
    @Melvin.B 2 місяці тому +5

    Just leave the current method as it is.

  • @andrew_rubia
    @andrew_rubia 2 місяці тому +15

    Instead of using computers. Have consequtive physical draws happening at the same time you just need space and cameras.
    Or use the lottery ball system to draw more balls at a time.
    About fitting 36 teams on the screen. Just split the table into two. Half on the left and half of the right.

  • @mananjolavisy2091
    @mananjolavisy2091 Годину тому +1

    It happens because of the pressure of super league contestation of big clubs.
    Either we accept it or big clubs as real and PSG will leave

  • @Xavi_LX
    @Xavi_LX 11 днів тому +1

    I don’t know mate, it sounds a bit dodgy

  • @Renegade76892
    @Renegade76892 2 місяці тому +4

    One thing i do like is imagine what the final day of the league phase is gonna be like if they do it right and have all games kick off at the same time...madness 😳

    • @plamerj1234
      @plamerj1234 2 місяці тому +2

      all games should kick off at the same time i agree. managers have to play what's needed to get results then, no resting players because the night before you secured r16 from another teams loss when you can secure it yourself with a win.

    • @kuhisyamuddin8431
      @kuhisyamuddin8431 15 днів тому

      @@plamerj1234 then the problem is when you have many favourite or good team to watch, but you can only watch one game for one team only, lmao..

  • @lizwi9122
    @lizwi9122 11 днів тому +1

    This is basically like the NBA

  • @schobaxt.8781
    @schobaxt.8781 16 днів тому +1

    Advantages: More matches with high stakes and goal fifference matters more.
    Disadvantages: Less chances for big upsets and getting an overview becomes more complicated.

  • @philipmcniel4908
    @philipmcniel4908 12 днів тому +1

    I understand the problems with not knowing your opponent in time for people to make travel arrangements, but IMO if they're going to combine all the teams into one huge league table, the *only* way to do that well is to have a true Swiss system, the way it's done in large open chess tournaments.

  • @jamesduffy7549
    @jamesduffy7549 2 місяці тому +7

    Scrap it, only 1st place from each uefa member should get to play and the winner of the fa cup or equivalent. No europa league no conference league

  • @nbarrett100
    @nbarrett100 2 місяці тому +4

    If it takes 8 minutes to explain your new format... it's probably a bad format

  • @DC-ix3hx
    @DC-ix3hx 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm not sure all the athletes can handle the physical stress from all these extra matches, longevity is biggest enemy of topflight players.

  • @Levien-vt4tc
    @Levien-vt4tc 16 днів тому

    I am not going to judge anything but i have a question are you playing random opponents? I mean Real and City for example will be in pot A but is it possible that they play directly two opponents in group a?

  • @reecepopplewell7390
    @reecepopplewell7390 12 днів тому +1

    I think this is interesting, I would say perhaps the teams playing a playoff game from 9th to 24th, maybe 9-16 should be rewarded with a home match, instead of it being two legged. Reduce the potential extra 4 games to 3.

  • @OiiRobbi3x
    @OiiRobbi3x 2 місяці тому +6

    Maybe if the draw is broken thats a good sign youve broken the competition. Numpties.

  • @mr.mentesh8130
    @mr.mentesh8130 2 місяці тому +5

    Nice way to crap on such an amazing tournament...load of crap

  • @ptmproductions296
    @ptmproductions296 2 місяці тому +3

    I still don't get it

  • @KM-ix3ms
    @KM-ix3ms Місяць тому +4

    In my longer saves of Football Manager I've actually enjoyed this very much

    • @captainfalconmain6576
      @captainfalconmain6576 Місяць тому +1

      can you explain why ?

    • @allenqueen
      @allenqueen 23 години тому

      Please Sir, can you elaborate

    • @KM-ix3ms
      @KM-ix3ms 23 години тому +1

      @@allenqueen just found the four team group stages boring. This feels like another league but across the continent.

  • @johnjim6793
    @johnjim6793 14 днів тому +1

    There is a basic idea of fairness that when you face an opponent at home, then you should also play him in an away match. So if you have a group match where you have different opponents at home and away, it will always feel annatural. Things like this have been tried before, but all such systems have been falling back into the classic group format sooner or later. So this weird system will not last. Sooner or later we will see some further alteration, like 64 teams in groups of four or 48 teams in groups of three or something like that.

    • @siphemanana2551
      @siphemanana2551 3 дні тому

      I think it’s going to be 40 teams for each competition but it’s 8 groups of 5 teams instead of 4. I honestly think it’s the way forward

  • @combrolaut
    @combrolaut 15 днів тому +1

    Together with domestic league and domestic cup, how many games player have to play week in week out....😮😮

  • @sahilahmad6344
    @sahilahmad6344 15 днів тому +1

    I really like it but the players should also be considered as there will be too many matches. Uefa should reduce international break imo

  • @lethalchicken1able
    @lethalchicken1able Місяць тому +2

    Why?!? The current system is tried and tested and works really well. Why change it? Ridiculous.

    • @captainfalconmain6576
      @captainfalconmain6576 Місяць тому +1

      actually the ucl should be straight knockout round of 32 should be 2 legs

  • @MrHamibaloochi
    @MrHamibaloochi 2 місяці тому +3

    Too many matches, people will get tired of too much hype and football is gonna die out. Imagine if you eat pizza once or twice a week, it's ok but if you eat it everyday you'll puke it out

  • @Robert_Blair
    @Robert_Blair 2 місяці тому +3

    Unnecessary and unwanted. I do not know which audience this change is meant to appease but I am certain that they have a short attention span that definitely should not be catered to.

    • @freakyholic
      @freakyholic 2 місяці тому

      I want this. This sounds more exciting

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@freakyholiconly you want this, not us

  • @giozeta8459
    @giozeta8459 15 днів тому +1

    let's see how it is, the actual champions league format as we know till now was also launched 20 years ago, and maybe people back then were complaining about it. it surely looks entertaining, but adding more games to calenders which are already full of games is not very productive if you want to see good games and if you want to keep players healthy. i just do not like the amount of teams a country could bring in, as an italian i do not get how italy is 1 on the list because of 1 or 2 good european campaigns while there was literally at least 1 spanish side to win an european trophy every year in the last 15 years and yet they are 5 on the table.

  • @Cio_d-borba
    @Cio_d-borba 4 дні тому +1

    Why change something that worked for many years and literally no one complained about? This new format seems bs and i hope it won't stick for too long

  • @TrymTheXboxGamer
    @TrymTheXboxGamer 2 місяці тому +30

    City has the 155 charges too

    • @Channel-qt8xe
      @Channel-qt8xe 2 місяці тому +2

      still crying

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Channel-qt8xeThey're going on trial in 2025.

  • @ScottishMapper.
    @ScottishMapper. 2 місяці тому +17

    Don’t think this is the right path in football. Just more TV Advertising 😅

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +3

      Supply and demand. If you don't like it, don't watch, they're only doing it cause people are watching.

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha 2 місяці тому

      They just want our money

  • @ryanfranchitti
    @ryanfranchitti 5 днів тому

    I like how they bring up an example like if city were to win the ucl but finish outside the top 5 is an impossible scenario when Chelsea literally did this in the 2011/2012 season. So it’s not impossible at all for there to possibly be 7 English teams.

  • @dmore
    @dmore 2 місяці тому +1

    Surely just publish the code so the whole thing is transparent? 🤷‍♂

  • @user-ek1to4gq3h
    @user-ek1to4gq3h 2 місяці тому +2

    I get all that, but what about the 35th team and 36th team, how are they decided if as normal they are top of the domestic league then who get those spots?

    • @CrestoRose
      @CrestoRose 14 днів тому

      Hey, I know I am answering late and maybe you already got your answer, but besides the 2 best nations coefficient in the season, one place will be given to 3th place in 5th nation in country's coefficient ranking (France) and another to a champion through qulifications. That's for the UCL, the rest are pretty much the same.

  • @Wiiggz
    @Wiiggz 14 днів тому +1

    If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

  • @237gospel
    @237gospel 2 місяці тому

    In the past, if there was no confrontation with big clubs, it became more equitable with this system.
    Now there is no team that makes it easier to reach the round of 16.🙏

  • @McD5791
    @McD5791 2 місяці тому +2

    Looks like the old 'finish third in the Champions League group, drop down to Europa League playoff' process has been done away with...

  • @mehdiyari7910
    @mehdiyari7910 2 місяці тому +2

    why fix something that’s not broken

  • @MrJellybeen
    @MrJellybeen 2 місяці тому

    Love these 2, top class presenting. Sky pay these boys and keep em locked in

  • @b4air
    @b4air 2 місяці тому +13

    There is no justice in one country's 5th team gets to be in the Champions League whilst another country's champion doesn't (no matter how competitive or better the former than the ladder)

    • @roychen5235
      @roychen5235 2 місяці тому +1

      Fair enough, but also under the current format that other team wouldn't get a spot anyways. I like the changes, most people's issues with it are stuff that already happens in the current format.

    • @wowrb
      @wowrb 2 місяці тому

      its called the champions league, the best teams of the best leagues

    • @b4air
      @b4air 2 місяці тому +1

      It's called the champions league... Every single champion has to be in that league. Not the 5th of some league.. @@wowrb

    • @wowrb
      @wowrb 2 місяці тому

      @@b4air not of some leagues, the best leagues

    • @ludwigkoopa3343
      @ludwigkoopa3343 Місяць тому

      @@b4air Well Dortmund is 5th in its league. And they are in the semi finale even though their player roster is the worst since 15 years

  • @gabrielnyadundu126
    @gabrielnyadundu126 14 днів тому

    How is the quality of the teams going to be rated?

  • @kingpietro1279
    @kingpietro1279 Місяць тому +1

    it would work if it was a swiss model wich means that you're starting fixture is know but after that you will be pointed against a opponent who has the same lose and win ration as you. For example manchester united plays against athletico madrid home and away they lose both matches so they then play against a team that also lost thier 2 home and away game for example feyenoord.
    And athletico madrid will play real madrid the team that also won 2 of their home and away matches
    you play a few rounds lets say 6 and then there is a league table
    But NO uefa want to keep their seeding and pots to protect big clubs.
    Swiss system is good so big clubs face eachother earlier and smaller clubs have oppponents of equal quality.

  • @FreddyImran32
    @FreddyImran32 16 днів тому +1

    Why did they changed a functioning system

  • @TheOriginalEwan
    @TheOriginalEwan 2 місяці тому +25

    It was bad enough when they got rid of away goals. European football hype is officially dead in the water.

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha 2 місяці тому +2

      Its already dead since money was involved

    • @Diogo85
      @Diogo85 2 місяці тому +24

      Extra time>Away goals

    • @7starsBrowhat7654
      @7starsBrowhat7654 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Diogo85yup

    • @TheOriginalEwan
      @TheOriginalEwan 2 місяці тому +3

      @@7starsBrowhat7654 absolutely not 😂 there could still be extra time if the away goals were still even. Now there’s no incentive to play proper football away from home. Every single game now has the away team sit back and defend.

    • @zesty7893
      @zesty7893 2 місяці тому +1

      Wtf was away goals?

  • @Bornfromabove-dr5ve
    @Bornfromabove-dr5ve 5 годин тому

    It doesn't make sense especially if a team that has never won a league title ends up winning the competition, this is champions league, supposed to be for only champions, not those additional spots for teams that have not even won a league in years.

  • @MarcusRashid996
    @MarcusRashid996 11 днів тому

    Thogdads prediction on Madrid v Bayern 2nd leg was spot on

  • @marcocarrillo3923
    @marcocarrillo3923 13 днів тому

    Some teams are just going to be stuck deciding which competition gets priority. League or continental competition? On top of that, teams are going to be dependent on having strong talent on the bench, due to the extra games.

  • @paddynevs5885
    @paddynevs5885 2 місяці тому +1

    3:28 better not be Fujitsu

  • @United_Wings
    @United_Wings Місяць тому +2

    This is basically The Super League

  • @sadiraihan
    @sadiraihan 16 днів тому +1

    It's basically what the super league proposal was

  • @oliver_sport_1767
    @oliver_sport_1767 13 днів тому

    i assuming there keaping the ties and two legs not a straight knock out like the FA cup and the FAI cup, scotish cup and the welsh cup

  • @cihansafak8629
    @cihansafak8629 Місяць тому

    I know this one from Basketball Euroleague its similiar the Same

  • @Jut_tc
    @Jut_tc 2 місяці тому +9

    In conclusion, Super League. Let's crack on with it.

    • @caven7056
      @caven7056 2 місяці тому

      Nobody was against the super league. Problem was there was no relegation. So clam your tits

  • @marksteps1712
    @marksteps1712 13 днів тому

    could this be a one season experiment?

  • @welowee7610
    @welowee7610 12 днів тому +1

    Whats wrong with the old format?
    Don’t fix what’s not broken

  • @mezoori
    @mezoori 2 місяці тому +2

    For anyone saying this new system is stupid, please actually explain why you think that without buzz words like "its all about the money" or "this is just the superleague"?

    • @aceking_offsuit
      @aceking_offsuit 2 місяці тому +2

      I don't like that they're adding more games to an already-crowded calendar. I don't like that so many of the extra places are going to the big leagues, creating a bigger gap between the haves and have nots. I don't like how there's effectively no difference between finishing 9th out of 36 and finishing 24th, which will create a lot of games on the final day where one or both teams will have little to play for.
      I like the end of the 'lucky loser' path to lower level knockouts, but that's about it.

    • @larsw.9442
      @larsw.9442 Місяць тому +4

      First off, computer-generated draws should be an absolute no-no! Even if they are clean, the lack of transparency and leaves far more room for manipulation. It certainly increases this perception.
      2) It is not an even playing field. Under the older format each team was judged seperately based on their perfomance in the group. Some groups can be tougher than other. But it's fair because they all play against each other under euqal condition (once home and once away). Under the new system you are basically comparing teams in one giant table when they will never play each other. Not all teams in those pots are equal. For example, Team X has to face much stronger opponents from pot 2/3, while Team Y has the "fortune" to face weaker ones. Imagine a Premiere League where each club only plays against half the teams. That's not what Sports is about, and in that regard the old format is by far superior.
      3) Entertainment. A small group where there is only one parallel game going is easier to follow and thus creates more drama. Look at the WC2022 Group as an example. Now Suppose your team plays in this new format, is currently positioned at 7th, 8th or 9th and is heading into its last game. Good luck trying to keep up with the scores of 17 other matches going on at the same time, which could all influence the final placement. It baffles me how anyone can think this is superior to a group format, in terms of audience engagement, drama and enjoyable entertainment. And if you think so please, offer a rebuttle and explain how 18 simultaniously played matches are more entertaining, when it's way too much to follow or keep track of.
      4) More games. As others have said, players are already overfilled in their schedule with games. 2 more matches (4 should a team reach the playoffs) makes players more prone to injury. And before you say it: The answer is not more rotation. Again, what's the point of watching great teams plays when half their star players aren't even playing or are in the sqaud? From an entertainment perspective this is definetally a downgrade, of not for the CL, then modt certainly for their national league.
      I can go on about other points. Further disparity between the top clubs and the rest. Less chances for upsets or underdog stories. The dilution of quality
      But hopefully this got your mind joggin' a bit. The new system is by far inferior in many important aspects of competitive football. It tries to copy a league format while still keeping with a Group-Stage -like concept. In germany, we would say _nicht Halbes und nichts Ganzes_. It is far too convoluted and complicated and gets rid of something that was probably the best format there is. Cheers

  • @user-lj6jp8qp7z
    @user-lj6jp8qp7z 2 місяці тому +2

    Every single football fan should boycott the Uefa games next season. Don't give Uefa a penny of your money. Send them a message.

  • @KausB89
    @KausB89 4 дні тому

    You can exploit the Swiss System very easy.
    Just lose the first match and you got way easier opponents

  • @amichaielteke
    @amichaielteke 14 днів тому +1

    This is like the nba format

  • @whatevsperson3019
    @whatevsperson3019 5 днів тому

    Why are people complaining lmao, this sounds much better than the current format. 8 league stage matches??? We get way higher chances of big clubs playing other big clubs that they don't regularly face. More Bayern v Barca, Madrid v City etc.

  • @callum-guy7607
    @callum-guy7607 2 місяці тому

    Horizon signed the contracts

  • @fcadi
    @fcadi Місяць тому +2

    So before champions leauge as the name says it was about leauge champions competing agaisnt each other. And we got to see teams like Red Star winning champions league. We're never going to see that again. Champions leauge is now only about money to be more precise top 5 leagues. We really should have competition just for them and rest of europe to have another competition

    • @captainfalconmain6576
      @captainfalconmain6576 Місяць тому

      we could say same thing when the euros was 8 teams while it was 40-45 teams an qualifiers i think only wanting big teams in mostly likely

  • @1petrutu
    @1petrutu 3 дні тому

    It's great. But just add top 2 teams of each leagues too. Like MLS or Saudi Arabia, or Poland, Holland etc.

  • @Levien-vt4tc
    @Levien-vt4tc 16 днів тому

    It has a nice side because more small teams can compete but i think that the bigger competitions will grow enormous and small competitions not that much, that is a danger imo.

  • @Nooroodin84
    @Nooroodin84 13 днів тому +1

    I’m excited for this new format.