I live in Canada. In Saskatchewan. EVERY WEDNESDAY all Public and Catholic schools have "Orange Shirt Day". In elementary school and high-school. They sell those "Every child matters" t shirts in schools, Walmart, everywhere. Also flags, key chains, it's a cash grab. My son was told (he's 8) that nuns used to torture little kids for being brown. I refuse to participate or give money towards it.
The thing that most native people don't understand is that the English did this same thing to their own people! Just ask the Welsh or the Scots their language almost died due to this treatment of their children! And they never got any apology for this happening to them! Or the rape and slaughter of their children!
As a Métis here in Alberta, whose family members attended residential schools, I thank you for clarifying the misconceptions from this misinformation that has been blown way out of proportion. Thank you for your honesty!
The reporter who “broke” this story should write a public apology for her chicanery…the so called radar expert also told the reporter it could just be rocks and stumps that were buried…they sensationalized the story…one of the chiefs in the area said it would make sense if there are graves there it would make sense because it had been a grave yard for 150 years and the church contacted the reserve 50 years ago about the dilapidated condition of the graves there and if they wanted to restore the markers so they wouldn’t be lost and the reserve said nothing…I had friends saying they were ashamed to be white and wanted to cancel Canada Day over this garbage…churches were burned to the ground and people left the church all together because of lies…it was disgusting and now there is a pile of healing that needs to happen…all because of a crooked reporter!!
It appears that this was a political motivated story. It caused more harm, more hurt, more division, more hate and has the desire to put Canada on the same level of hate and genocide as done in non Christian violent countries.
"Over this garbage"?????? Not really, although I agree to a point. I attended several assemblies on various Reserves when the Truth and Reconciliation hearings were conducted. Some of the stories were absolutely heartbreaking. Even if it wasn't as bad as social media reported, one must still respond in a compassionate manner to those who suffered.
@@sharonhart9131 So are you saying some or all Christian countries were non violent? Really?? Never heard of the Spanish Inquisition? Witch burning in Salem, Massachusetts? The murder and slaughter of Indigenous people in Central and South America by the Conquistadors? All under the approval of Jesuit priests? My reading and study indicates hundreds of thousands of people were slaughtered as heretics over the centuries. Seems like the worst kind of love is Christian love.
Excellent! Catholics in Canada should share this video everywhere. This is the most significant interview in the Canadian Catholic Church in 2024. Thank you Ken & Fr. Bouvette.
Ken thank you for the courage to address this topic. At the time this story broke I wrote a letter to CBC about the use of ground penetrating radar that I used at a cemetery I was responsible for. It was unable to show us anything. They wrote back and agreed but did not change their original story of Mass graves.
Canadian political correctness does not all for open discussion and truth. Far too many special interest groups in this country to allow open discussion. All this does is create divisiveness which does not allow real solutions through compromise.
Im a practicing Catholic. Im Red River Metis. I attended both Catholic Convent and public school, I was angry. My sons attended Catholic school. They were angry and we were all angry that this lie was believed and we hated that an apology the bishops circulated was wrong to do because it implied that the story was corrected. It doesn't matter what they were apologizing for, the public took it as an admission of guilt and Oh by the way we are sorry we did it. The Catholic Church hasn't abused as many or as frequently as abuse was perpetrated against children in schools in the past. I know how bad abuse was in public school. I've never been abused by clergy. If a child died from DISEASES so prevalent the children would have been given a Catholic funeral on hallowed ground. I loved my Catholic school convent experience and so have my sons. This story was circulated by the government using government run news.
Ground considered Hallowed by who? certainly not by the children and their families, families that were never even notified their child wasn't coming home.
@@maryrankin9869 Obviously you haven't done any serious research into Roman Catholic history. The terror and slaughter spans centuries and I could elaborate, but it would require pages. So I'll name a couple. Ever hear of the Spanish Inquisition or the St. Bartholomew Day Massacre by Catherine de Medici? Look it up.
Until bodies are dug up and proven by DNA testing the body is actually indigenous and how they died. Shadows in the ground is not real proof. Time to dig up these shadows and prove these claims
@@maryrankin9869 realistically it’s not just Catholics. They bash the Christian faith across-the-board I am not a practising Christian, but I will defend Christians rights to worship and believe and speak out about their beliefs. Whatever the way that they care to.
If untrue, the media entities responsible for such fake news must be brought to justice. And criminals responsible for church burning should be sued for loss of property.
Only a fake and weak leader behaves as such. They all ignore the primary responsibility of the Government. Can a Church have anyone's kids in school without the Government policy instigating such policies??? Why demonize the entire Church and reduce all its good to just the unfortunate cases??? To the extent that being a catholic is virtually a stigma in Canada.
and the sheer number in response to propagating an untruth and inciting violence with now over 1 hundred churches destroyed across the country is a criminal catastrophe....was it strategic ?
I am not Catholic, but I am a Christian Indigenous Canadian woman. I have not had the words to express my opinions on "reconciling" my past and heritage with these modern accusations against churches in Canada. This interview with this priest has expressed my beliefs and words towards this subject with such clarity and logic with common sense. Thank you.
I agree completely; I believe that there is no doubt that a lot of indigenous children and adults alike wrongly suffered at the hands of unscrupulous people in the past and probably even today. The thing is, when we allow lies like this to propagate they become a disease festering into hatred and then when the truth is finally revealed people become angry and unsympathetic when real crimes are brought to light. Its the classic the boy who cried wolf. Peace and blessings sister
@@chrys77cross Thank YOU. I am not Catholic. Neither am I native. But this interview was exceptional. We can all be thankful for such clear thinking on the subject.
I'm not a Catholic... But I'm very impressed with Father Cristino Bouvette who is very articulate and sensitive and truthful on this grievous matter...
Thankyou Ken and Father Cristino for shedding some light on this subject. I think Father Cristino identified one of the biggest problems we have today, unfounded claims picked up by the media and not fact checked. And I'm not speaking just about this subject.
the investigation is on going still. so far 51 have been uncovered by 215 were apparently detected by a radar. its a long process because forensic research takes a while and they're trying to figure out what exactly happened.
Wow this was really awesome.Thank you Ken for delving into this. I am sending this to my teenager who tries to use “we are horrible children killers” as an excuse to not follow our faith. This was so great at seeing both sides and not placing blame or animosity.
This is great! I am not Canadian but I find that Fr is so sincere, straight forward and is very precise and correct. He has made an outsider like me understand what was being highly discussed in my circle. Thank you Fr.
It didn't help that Trudeau immediately donned sackcloth and ashes when the "news" broke from Kamloops. No proof of ANYTHING and he's falling all over himself in apology of Canada's wrong doing, ordering flags to half-mast to months on end and throwing more money to various tribes to support investigations that have never been done.
Everyone rushed to virtue signal. I spoke with a very senior military official who is indigenous- in a quiet tone privately. I served with this person in Afghanistan. outstanding individual. That person and their family had a positive experience at residential schools. You can't speak up against the narrative.
This priest is very articulate. I had the honor of being friends with two elders at one point in my life, who went through the residential school system in the 40's and 50's, and they were solid Catholics until they passed. But the things they told me were different from what most people aay about the schools now. They enjoyed them. And while they were jot perfect, they weren't as bad as many now make them out to be. I think the reason is that its easier to blame others for problems than it is to find solutions and focus on the good. And in addition the news of these mass graves was so emotionally disturbing when it came out. But we all took it as truth. And now that it is coming out as actually being lies, the media needs to write about it, so that people can come back to their senses about the relatively solid history of Canadians being a good nation of good people (overall).
Having connection with priests from OMO Lacombe, I had conversations with several , who have passed in recent years and for whom this discussion would have meant so much, about their memories of the schools built by the government where the OMI had long been working with indigenous groups. And I will always remember a newspaper article where a woman and husband had worked as cook and caretaker at a residential school, and she once had remembered with fondness about what they considered to be the good work they had done there, the extras they had shared with the children and comfort given to the youngest and scared. Once the first story about the "mass graves" came out when she tried to speak about some good that was done, admitting that she didn't know about abuse, but she would wait for more news, since she wasn't there till the school closed, she was lambasted by acquaintances who said she must have known and why didn't she stop it.... and she now felt that whatever good that they thought they had done, was not and never would be seen as good, and she too would be tainted in the horrific stories that have come out.
i think the strict discipline during that era could be considered abuse by today's standards. but that was not limited to indigenous people. also, meticulous student attendance records would have been kept, and certainly deaths according to catholic tradition; records that could be compared to those from indigenous communities. if the records don't match then you start digging.
@@carlosgaspar8447 Not the Era, It all depends on the Teachers, and THE LOCAL BANDS.... Just Like today's Educators.... Just Look at Carlton Ontario...
@@carlosgaspar8447 That's one part of the story I've never understood. Records existed and still exist, I'm sure, of student attending the schools. Not just records, but also people's understanding of their own families and communities. If thousands of children died unaccounted for, across the whole country in numerous provinces, it's quite difficult to believe such a thing would remain so quite for a long time. It's true that some indigenous will say there were rumours of some child disappearing at a school, but those kind of rumours sound more like imaginative stories kids tell, than accusations being reported.
@@chrisloftson6705 perhaps some of what has happen is due to what we perceive as reality vs what we imagine; and the two are sometimes difficult to distinguish, and it's been shown that most people can be made to believe "imaginations" and then after a few attempts be shown they were false. that's the only way i can come to terms with this given most of us are well educated these days. like a form of hypnosis. in catholic countries where i'm originally from, it's the catholic church that meticulously records births and deaths. those records are then passed onto city hall. i seem to recall that phil fontaine had already dealt with this issue in the 1990's but yet came out of "retirement" to put his name onto this falsehood.
It sure as hell helps. How do you distinguish between a graveyard and a decayed orchard? The site in Kamloops was historically an apple or cherry orchard. Funny enough, an orchard layout andna graveyard layout are about the same spacing.
What he says about some Indigenous people having enjoyed and appreciated their time at residential schools is true. One elder told my grandkids that exact thing...she was thankful her parents had taken her to the school, and felt it saved her. She talked of people taking their kids to the school for medical treatment as well, When my grandchild spoke this in class (and Indigenous studies class) she was told that it was not true....that either the elder was untruthful or my grandchild was lying!!! You are not allowed to question this narrative without being on the receiving end of accusations of being racist.
The result of spinning a narrative without evidence. However, testimonies of all and not just the negative ones are a witness to the whole picture. I feel sorry for that young student.
In my own experience as a child of a residential school survivor and am myself known as an intergenerational survivor; I've done a lot of healing and research on Residential Schools in hopes of finding some kind of answers. I found the "school " was part of an experiment as well. Siblings were separated, as were my mother and her sister were ; and were treated completely different. While my aunt had a positive experience where she was treated well and had opportunities for learning my mother was treated abusively. ..I saw this difference in both. Not all people had positive experiences
"Felt it saved her". Saved her from what? In 2024 at the age of 90, I can only conclude we need to understand and promote Indigenous knowledge of our environment and their sense of community and compassion.
Thank you for this talk. A few topics, that have never been proven and that the Govt. & main stream media have promoted in the last few years, have caused division & hate in Canada, and this is one of them. This interview is valuable and should be shared.
I believe the Canadian government allowed the Catholic Church to take the full blame to take the focus off of them. The government enforced the boarding schools when the government took the children away from their families as they also did in the US to impose assimilation. The Catholic Church was only one of the churches that offered to participate in a program that was already implemented by the government. I believe they felt that they were trying to do good in a bad situation & convert the children. Unfortunately 500, million people died worldwide of the Spanish flu & yellow fever took thousands in North America/Canada at the turn of the century. Living communally, also made the spread quicker in close community living conditions.
@@maureen9115 Note Spanish Flu ( Bird flu H1N1) was during and after the First War that went around the Calendar in WORLD HISTORY, and Malnutrition was a HUGE Factor both at home and on the battlefields. As With Covid, I ask the Same Question "Died of? or Died With?".... The Catholic Church had not Pay up their Fair share of the HARPER T&R funding agreement, and this (Kamloops) was used by the Natives to put pressure on the CATHOLIC Church to Pay up. NOTE that All the rest of the Churches involved did. But The other 3 Churches involved that HAD paid up and still having their churches Burned down too.... WHY??? and Who is going to make reparations to them for the destruction of their Spiritual homes???
Ken thank you for the courage to address this topic. At the time this story broke I wrote a letter to CBC about the use of ground penetrating radar that I used at a cemetery I was responsible for. It was unable to show us anything. They wrote back and agreed but did not change their original story of Mass graves. If in Manitoba I would love you to speak to our youth
I know a former student of this school. She has told me that the area these detections were located used to be the orchard, where just over 200 fruit trees were ripped out decades ago. The radar is picking up those disturbances, not dead children.
"GPR is one of the best methods to map graves because it is capable of measuring both physical and chemical changes in the ground in three dimensions; therefore, depth as well as the spatial distribution of graves can be determined" (p. 65). they would know that its an orchard because orchards have a different chemical composition than human bones. www.gpr-archaeology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/graves.pdf
Very interesting and touching interview, not only for Catholics, but for all Canadians. For one thing most people are unaware of the existence of Catholic Priests who are Indigenous. Kudos to Fr. Cristino Bouvette. The word "Anomalies" need not translate to "graves".
One indigenous priest, brain washed. I was born with indigenous blood and didn't have a choice but accept what history that is written . I was baptized Anglican but without my mother knowing any better She was brain washed too
@@Myrna-cc4xn Perhaps you can enlighten me: where are the bodies??? What haven't I understood? They haven't uncovered a single one. It is unhelpful to accuse someone with an opposing point of view "brainwashed".
Thank you so much for this. What a gift Fr. Cristino is for Canada at this time. He is a man of reason during a time of unreason. I think the most tragic part of this is that the indigenous population of Canada has been thoroughly traumatized by this newly invented conspiracy theory about Canada, in collaboration with the Catholic church, building these schools to eliminate them. Very little of the predominant narrative has any basis in reality, and yet indigenous people (most of whom never went to residential schools or have any family who did) are hurting because they think it's true. I really worry about the young people, who were already suffering from a lot of hopelessness, and now they are being told that their country hated them so much it tried to eliminate all their ancestors. That is going to have a devastating effect. To make matters worse, they are now required to re-live this imagined trauma every September 30th, in public, and with a growing backlash. I think our burned churches will be rebuilt long before the people hurt by these lies are able to rebuild their sense of worth. Of course the ultimate tragedy is that both indigenous and non-indigenous Canadians are being driven away from the church by these lies. The Father of Lies found fertile ground here, alas.
Prudence. That's the virtue that stands out to me in this interview. I definitely need to employ prudence when discerning headlines or any story in today's media. God bless everyone and may the souls of the faithfully departed through the mercy of God, rest in peace 🙏🏻✝️
One aspect not discussed is related to compensation. This claim of 215 children resulted in an unrestricted flow of federal funding and the push for outlawing denying residential school deaths is ensuring that the tap is not turned off.
This has made me feel so much better. I don't feel so alone in my belief in this matter. You have such integrity and courage, sticking to your guns and not backing down for fear of what others will think of you or treat you Fr. I am Indigenous from Ontario. People ( some family members as well ) became/become angry with me when I let it be known that I felt it was all a falsehood . My reasons were as you mentioned and also the question why now ? I can't go to Truth and Reconciliation. It would be as you stated , affirming the narrative of Kamloops. My question..why do we have anger separating us? Why can't we listen and learn. Why can't Truth and Reconciliation be a celebration of our people and the positive strides we have made instead of the negative. We are better than that .
This is an excellent interview. I went to school in the 60-70s. At the high school I went to, there was a residence for students who were too far away to be bussed. Many were indigenous people, because the high school offered them training for their future jobs. No one suffered going there. People nowadays do NOT understand that there were huge differences in how to actually get students educated, even back in the 1960s. Many people live in more remote areas , and the roads in those areas were sometimes nonexistent. ***Why do today’s citizens have to pay and make exceptions for past generations? We didn’t do anything. And why do indigenous people always call us racist? If they don’t have the life they want, with all the government help they have it’s their own choice.
My question , why have the police not been brought in to properly examine the area ? If there are children graves then people need to be held accountable. All children matter - that is a great statement .
Last I heard, there was not a single confirmed human remain outside of the marked graves. ALL of the echos on the ground penetrating radar were either rocks or other anomalies.
I so appreciate this priest’s articulate explanation of the lack of substance to this deplorable rumor. Unfortunately, many consumers of “news” don’t think critically, they merely react with emotion to unsubstantiated conclusions. As Father asked, how do you reel back that false story? It’s awfully difficult, because who is even listening? But we should try anyway, so thanks for this video interview.
My first thought: why are they concerned of children since there is so much abortion support??? Prayers for this situation. Now I continue to listen to show.
That is so ignorant. These people never chose to send their children to the residential school and so many children never came home. You all acting like these families just didn't realize that their kids were missing?... Deciding not to have a baby before it's born is not the same as deciding to have a child and then having someone steal it from you because they think they can raise it better than you because they want to eradicate your culture
Certainly appreciate both the Ken and Father Cristino for broaching this taboo subject. I think it very brave of both of them. As a retired police officer, evidence was my life for 33 years. The fact that the original story continues to evolve and no further evidence gathering has happened or has been allowed to happen is disconcerting to say the least. As a catholic I was shamed when the story broke, but what am I supposed to feel now? I think this issue has done great harm to Indigenous Reconciliation in this county. The fact that I can't even ask questions without being labeled a denier, leaves me sad and a little resentful. Shame on our sensationalistic media who, for the most part, now remain silent.
Priests were actually the ones who developed written versions of some of the indigenous languages that didn't have written forms of their languages. Some of the languages that survived were the result of this.
My wife went to Catholic residential school in the Philippines. The Nuns, some were strict but they were fair. I cannot barely put into words how beneficial this school, this charity was for her. To God the glory!
One thing that has never been mentioned is that if the chiefs actually fixed all of the problems on the reservations, there would be very little use for having chiefs. The present system is very lucrative for the tribal elites.
My dad was in a residiential school in the 60s he said it saved his and many others lives. Kids would show up from the resevstions with broken bones that never beem reset, kids that had been so molested on the rez that they couldnt walk straight, kids would have tb and many times kids would die becasue of the injuries they sustained on the rez. Often the bodies of these children were never claimed, nobody on the rez cared enought to come get them. This is all such hogwaggery. My dad said it was the safest he ever felt was when he was at the residential school. He says hes not a " survivor" but a " graduate". He did say yhe nuns where mean to him though. Also in kamploops people need to remeber it was an indian hospital and again often if kids passed away nobody would come take the bodies. There tribes didnt cqre. This is reidiculous the spin theyve put on this. Of course there are going to be bodies and thanknyou to the church for burying them after they had been abandoned. Thats the real tragedy, how the nations would just leave the kids there.
My fear is that the silencing of anyone who questions this story, makes indigenous tribes lose credibility. The fact that they refuse to excavate, looks bad.
I am very thankful for this truthful & unbiased version of the residential school. We are a small community, & my family chose to loose their status, to keep their kids home from the Rez. School, bc their family needed them home in order to run their farm…not excusing anything, but thankful for this TRUTH being brought forward.
I always enjoy listening to Father Cristino. One of my priests i pray for daily. The truly sick part of this is that "they" know once something is reported, especially worldwide, there's really no reeling it back in. They've done the damage and that's what most will remember. Our current media is absolutely a tool of Satan. I'll share this in the hopes that my small circle on social media will see and maybe share. Thanks to you both! 🙏🤲🙏💖
You're absolutely correct. This is exactly what they do. They create a reason to get a transfer payment. They get the transfer payment and they go spend it. Reparations will never occur until six nations, including the Mohawk the Onondaga Oneida the senecas, the Tucararora and the cayugas ask for forgiveness for slaughtering the Algonquins the cree the metis French the Blackfoot and the Squamish and Salish they must ask for forgiveness. Otherwise like the French say on their license plates, they will never forget
I agree with Fr. Thank you for your clarity. I think it is prudent to not participate in spreading ambiguity of truth from the other side to try to correct the first ambiguous statement.
What the Church should "apologize" for is NOTHING compared to what they are being accused of. The Church helped educate children. There's no evidence any "abuse" took place. Is physical discipline on kids by teachers abuse? By today's standards it is. But back then, kids were physically disciplined by their teachers all the time. I don't think the Church has anything to apologize for. It provided help and education for thousands of impoverished children. Giving these native kids a chance in a changing landscape was a mercy and gift. If they hadn't been given this education, the narrative would be that they were never given equal opportunity.
Insightful and convicting conversation; we shouldn’t pass along any information we don’t have the evidence to back up. We need more Truth proclaimed in our culture and more Reconciliation with our LORD! Every child matters ….even the unborn! That’s how I reframe it.
As a retired police officer, I got into discussions with people when this news broke. They called me a racist when I said that GPR was insufficient. A full forensic exhumation was needed for confirmation. I also said it didn't fit the definition of a "mass grave ". I also raised the point that if there were graves, wooden markers would have long since rotted away. Again, I was accused of being a terrible person.
The Holy Father’s remarks during his visit to Canada would have been a good part of this conversation. When pressed, he affirmed that this was “genocide”, another well-embraced term alongside “mass graves”. Also, there is historical documentation of one mass grave in Canada that I am aware of, but its location has been lost. It is where both French and British casualties were buried after the Battle of the Plains of Abraham around 1760 in present Quebec.
Father Cristino is a good philosopher and theologian. Hearing him for the first time impressed me. I pray that there are more priests like him. Thank God for the truth. God bless you Fr. Cristino. I am a proud Catholic praying for world peace.
They are never ever brought up. It was so disappointing that not even Pope Francis, when he visited in 2022, did not mention them at all. Saints Anthony Daniel, Noel Chanabel, Charles Garnier, Gabriel Lalemont, John De Lalonde, Rene Goupil, Isaac Jogues, John De Brebeuf please please please pray for us, and pray for our reconciliation with our Indigenous Sisters & Brothers.
excellent interview..shameful that the Canadian government doesn't excavate to put this issue at rest...they're not interested in clearing the issue up apparently
I am a person that does not practice in any faith but this conversation has rang very true with my own personal thoughts and beliefs and I will be sharing this conversation. It brings to me, some sanity in this hurricane of words that we are constantly barraged with in today’s world. So thank you.
I do not know the borading school system in Canada. I know about history in Brazil. Brazil has Continental sizes because of its Catholic background. Boarding schools are not common but the need for one language and one faith is nothing to be ashamed about! The indians in Brazil were canibals and ate many priests! Is that what they want to preserve? The indians themselves didnt like such lives! They wanted ordely comunities, protection of the weak and most of all a true reverance to the Almighty God! The question now is: Who is going to pay for the construction of the burned church??? The Catholic Church should demand such reparation!
My father and his family came from Germany in 1927. They were expected to speak English, not practice their culture. It was what everyone was subjected to. My father was beaten and strapped because of who he was. It was how they treated children and anyone who was different, especially if they were from another country.
It was the same for other languages. In Cape Breton, students who spoke Gaelic were punished, and at the time Gaelic was the first language of many entering school in Gaelic-speaking areas. Because of this, parents stopped passing on their language so as not to disadvantage their children. Gaelic was dying out until recent efforts to revive it.
My father-in-law is 94 years old, and he says very similar things. He was jealous of the First Nations kids because they got food, clothing, and school, and he and his German siblings were treated very poorly by some teachers because of the war. This was in Rutland, BC.
Thank you for this interview. I found myself wondering why someone or some organization went to the trouble to enlist high technology to be focused on an apple orchard.
Great interview but no Catholic should be participating in smudging ceremonies, period. It happened at our school and there were no permission forms or letters sent home to inform parents. I'm sorry but I am so tired of having the "indigenous issues" being shoved down curriculum and school activities.
I am Metis and I look native and people have asked me that my entire life. I didn't grow up in the culture. It's fairly far back in my family and I don't know a lot about it. I just generally consider myself to be anglophone in culture. at my work. We were told to wear the orange shirt. I didn't. And I just said, I forgot that it was today. But I really like the priest's take on having Our Lady of Guadalupe on an orange shirt, because I do work at a Catholic retirement home in the Catholic spiritual services department. It's complicated, but he just made it easier.
The abuse that happened in the residential school's should also be taken in context - public school's in Canada back in the day would use the strap on kids who misbehaved up until the early 80's and that was completely acceptable - kids misbehaving was NOT TOLERATED. Residential schools took in kids from alot of really abusive and dysfunctional families (part of the reason why the government placed them there) so lets just say those who worked in these school's had their hands full!! I met several native's who went to these schools and some of them swore it saved them from a far worse situation. I don't deny that abuse took place but alleging that the Church tried to commit genocide and murder is gravely slanderous. Excavations were done on some of these alleged areas of mass graves and NOTHING was found. Such horrendous accusations warrant solid evidence PERIOD!
I attended public school in the 1960’s and received the strap from the school principal many times, in every grade. First time in grade 1 for lighting matches in the coat room and the last time l was in grade 8, for throwing snow balls on school property. In high school they stopped hitting us. I was to learn later my parents were aware and gave their permission for the discipline.
@@howiemicks5603 Wow thanks for sharing! I forgot how strict the public schools were for the slightest offence LOL!! Can you imagine the OUTRAGE kids these days would have if it happened to them?? School's would be sued out of existence! Which is basically what they're trying to do to the Church go figure.
The residential schools issue is a complex, nuanced sociopolitical matter that has been reduced to a single dimension for easy public digestion to promote a certain narrative, and fuelled by various motives, not all of which are conducive to truth and reconciliation, to the detriment of the country, and which also disrespects those who actually lived it. The people behind the Kamloops claim have done all of us, including the Kamloops band, a great disservice and have caused immeasurable harm.
Then they shouldn’t have accepted the money and they should have spoken up against what the “media” was saying. The media didn’t organize indigenous marches and create holidays and cancel Canada Day and create vigils for these murdered children against the wishes of the indigenous people. The media surely played their part in spreading/exaggerating this, but the cameras are pointed at indigenous communities and what they are claiming.
The initial story by the mainstream press was so horrific it had to be true and dealt with. Let's get the bastards involved including the four hundred and thirty parents that remained silent and the eight hundred and sixty grandparents who never reported this to the press and the editors of every major news source that never followed up on certainly at least one tip that hundreds are children are being murdered and the chiefs who kept this secret or the indigenous MPs who never spoke out in Parliament and let it continue for a hundred years and the civil servants who never stopped the payments to these dead children. Justin's father was Prime Minister during the sixties scoop as they call it. Why is there an airport named after this man connected to the mass murder of children? But lets not forget Chief Murray Sinclair, a Judge and Senator who authored, Truth and Reconciliation. How could he not know of thousands of murdered children and never bring it to light. All these secret keepers are guilty of major federal crimes. If we can't investigate the deaths then lets investigate the cover up and start sending the living conspirators to jail. Why hasn't the Trudeau estate been seized for compensation of future litigation for the thousands of murdered children Pierre Trudeau supervised? Remember, it could be unlawful to consider this a hoax so lets play along and send the living chiefs and politicians to jail.
I am a New Zealand Catholic, who for several years worked as the District Sexton in an area including southern Auckland city. I have done reopening graves and several disinterments at the request of families. I am appalled that no one has opened any of these graves to confirm that burials of children actually took place there. Why was this not done?
You forget that the Indians now claiming that there are 215 unmarked graves of murdered Residential School children at Kamloops (and the ones claimed and reported elsewhere later) also claim that this was just confirmation of what they, the Indians, had already always “known” as part of their traditional knowledge keeping. This special knowledge keeping by natives is now privileged above any other sort of knowledge or information and is sacrosanct and must not be questioned according to modern “Progressive” thinking on this subject. How does one set the record straight when questioning such sacred “ knowings” is constantly called denialism and anyone described as “guilty” of it is made out to be some extreme right-wing fanatic whose word is not to be aired much less given the time of day?
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I live in Canada. In Saskatchewan.
EVERY WEDNESDAY all Public and Catholic schools have "Orange Shirt Day". In elementary school and high-school.
They sell those "Every child matters" t shirts in schools, Walmart, everywhere. Also flags, key chains, it's a cash grab.
My son was told (he's 8) that nuns used to torture little kids for being brown.
I refuse to participate or give money towards it.
The thing that most native people don't understand is that the English did this same thing to their own people! Just ask the Welsh or the Scots their language almost died due to this treatment of their children! And they never got any apology for this happening to them! Or the rape and slaughter of their children!
@@lancehill9971 work houses for children in London were far worse than any residential school.
@@lancehill9971one could conclude the Cayholic church is the most evil organization to ever exist, which is true.
@@lancehill9971so that makes it right than????
As a Métis here in Alberta, whose family members attended residential schools, I thank you for clarifying the misconceptions from this misinformation that has been blown way out of proportion. Thank you for your honesty!
@@michelleevans6537 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
@@Catholicspeaker You’re welcome!
@michelleevans6537 Misconceptions? Misinformation? You mean LIES.
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God our father can raise up Metis from these stones.
The reporter who “broke” this story should write a public apology for her chicanery…the so called radar expert also told the reporter it could just be rocks and stumps that were buried…they sensationalized the story…one of the chiefs in the area said it would make sense if there are graves there it would make sense because it had been a grave yard for 150 years and the church contacted the reserve 50 years ago about the dilapidated condition of the graves there and if they wanted to restore the markers so they wouldn’t be lost and the reserve said nothing…I had friends saying they were ashamed to be white and wanted to cancel Canada Day over this garbage…churches were burned to the ground and people left the church all together because of lies…it was disgusting and now there is a pile of healing that needs to happen…all because of a crooked reporter!!
It appears that this was a political motivated story. It caused more harm, more hurt, more division, more hate and has the desire to put Canada on the same level of hate and genocide as done in non Christian violent countries.
@@sharonhart9131 they achieved exactly what they set out to do then!..
.... crooked media AND our prime opportunist True-doh.
"Over this garbage"?????? Not really, although I agree to a point. I attended several assemblies on various Reserves when the Truth and Reconciliation hearings were conducted. Some of the stories were absolutely heartbreaking. Even if it wasn't as bad as social media reported, one must still respond in a compassionate manner to those who suffered.
@@sharonhart9131 So are you saying some or all Christian countries were non violent? Really?? Never heard of the Spanish Inquisition? Witch burning in Salem, Massachusetts? The murder and slaughter of Indigenous people in Central and South America by the Conquistadors? All under the approval of Jesuit priests? My reading and study indicates hundreds of thousands of people were slaughtered as heretics over the centuries. Seems like the worst kind of love is Christian love.
Excellent! Catholics in Canada should share this video everywhere. This is the most significant interview in the Canadian Catholic Church in 2024. Thank you Ken & Fr. Bouvette.
Agree !!
Hey it's Fr. Mark Goring!
@@FrMarkGoring thanks for your encouragement Father. 😀
This is not good Fr Goring. This man is accusing the Catholics and perpetrating the lies!!! No Priest or nuns are responsible!!
Hi Fr. Goring, hope you're well.
Ken thank you for the courage to address this topic. At the time this story broke I wrote a letter to CBC about the use of ground penetrating radar that I used at a cemetery I was responsible for. It was unable to show us anything. They wrote back and agreed but did not change their original story of Mass graves.
Because CBC likes to run with hyperbolic headlines. It's the only way they can get Canadians' attention.
their executives make more money than members of parliament. positions for which they were appointed.
Do you still have that email? I'd love to see a copy of it.
"What's the point of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission if we leave the truth off?"
A very good question.
Because it is all government corruption the same agency that took land from indigenous. Babies were put in the furnaces and burned.
Because it's really about reconciliation. Or empty words And surfing the day you announce the "holiday".
There will never be reconciliation when it is based on lies.
It's only about Marxism to destroy the past and recreate Canada for world government.
Don’t kid yourself. Reconciliation is a lie too. It’s just a way to scam taxpayers for more money.
Every Canadian need to watch this video. Fr Cristino, thank you, thank you.
Canadian political correctness does not all for open discussion and truth. Far too many special interest groups in this country to allow open discussion. All this does is create divisiveness which does not allow real solutions through compromise.
I agree, but it doesn't negate the whole story.
@@billfarley9167what is the “whole story”? I’ve worked in native communities my whole career as a health professional. Most of this is flat out lies.
Agreed.
Im a practicing Catholic. Im Red River Metis. I attended both Catholic Convent and public school, I was angry. My sons attended Catholic school. They were angry and we were all angry that this lie was believed and we hated that an apology the bishops circulated was wrong to do because it implied that the story was corrected. It doesn't matter what they were apologizing for, the public took it as an admission of guilt and Oh by the way we are sorry we did it. The Catholic Church hasn't abused as many or as frequently as abuse was perpetrated against children in schools in the past. I know how bad abuse was in public school. I've never been abused by clergy. If a child died from DISEASES so prevalent the children would have been given a Catholic funeral on hallowed ground. I loved my Catholic school convent experience and so have my sons. This story was circulated by the government using government run news.
As a Catholic alter boy in the 50s and sixties the priests were very kind to us.
God bless you for telling the courageous truth
You are a truth-hero. The world needs more people like you.
Ground considered Hallowed by who? certainly not by the children and their families, families that were never even notified their child wasn't coming home.
@@perryroberts4353according to the common narrative but maybe not so real in fact
Thank you so much for speaking on this matter, the news media need to be held accountable for misinformation and slander!
Absolutely. I am sick of the media bashing the Catholic Faith.
@@maryrankin9869 Obviously you haven't done any serious research into Roman Catholic history. The terror and slaughter spans centuries and I could elaborate, but it would require pages. So I'll name a couple. Ever hear of the Spanish Inquisition or the St. Bartholomew Day Massacre by Catherine de Medici? Look it up.
Same. The Prime Minister also needs to be held accountable
Until bodies are dug up and proven by DNA testing the body is actually indigenous and how they died. Shadows in the ground is not real proof. Time to dig up these shadows and prove these claims
@@maryrankin9869 realistically it’s not just Catholics. They bash the Christian faith across-the-board I am not a practising Christian, but I will defend Christians rights to worship and believe and speak out about their beliefs. Whatever the way that they care to.
If untrue, the media entities responsible for such fake news must be brought to justice. And criminals responsible for church burning should be sued for loss of property.
If Canadian press is like US, they never apologize, never correct errors and hide behind free speech rights.
Far from untrue
Dr Sarah Beaulieu should be imprisoned for inciting so much hate and violence
@GEDDY37 they used to hang these evil kings in the streets. Let them be shamed until end of the day . The Bible speaks alot about it.
Send this to Trudeau
I live in an indigenous community and i have personally been told by some who went residental school and told they are grateful for their education
Wow. Thanks Ken and Fr Cristino. This is a beautiful conversation full of Charity, Truth and Wisdom.
I'll never forget the response to churches burning as "understandable" from the liberal leader.
Sickening to say the least. JT is no Catholic.
Only a fake and weak leader behaves as such. They all ignore the primary responsibility of the Government. Can a Church have anyone's kids in school without the Government policy instigating such policies??? Why demonize the entire Church and reduce all its good to just the unfortunate cases??? To the extent that being a catholic is virtually a stigma in Canada.
Blasphemous!
So many sad statements made by our "leader"
and the sheer number in response to propagating an untruth and inciting violence with now over 1 hundred churches destroyed across the country is a criminal catastrophe....was it strategic ?
I am not Catholic, but I am a Christian Indigenous Canadian woman. I have not had the words to express my opinions on "reconciling" my past and heritage with these modern accusations against churches in Canada. This interview with this priest has expressed my beliefs and words towards this subject with such clarity and logic with common sense. Thank you.
I agree completely; I believe that there is no doubt that a lot of indigenous children and adults alike wrongly suffered at the hands of unscrupulous people in the past and probably even today. The thing is, when we allow lies like this to propagate they become a disease festering into hatred and then when the truth is finally revealed people become angry and unsympathetic when real crimes are brought to light. Its the classic the boy who cried wolf.
Peace and blessings sister
@@chrys77cross Thank YOU. I am not Catholic. Neither am I native. But this interview was exceptional. We can all be thankful for such clear thinking on the subject.
I'm not a Catholic... But I'm very impressed with Father Cristino Bouvette who is very articulate and sensitive and truthful on this grievous matter...
Thankyou Ken and Father Cristino for shedding some light on this subject. I think Father Cristino identified one of the biggest problems we have today, unfounded claims picked up by the media and not fact checked. And I'm not speaking just about this subject.
For me, fact checking in this sense would be to dig up all those areas indicating an anomaly. Seems like a lot of hysteria was fomented on non facts.
this is why you cannot believe anything the msm reports as news
I am not Catholic, but this was very healing and clear , thank you so much ✨🇨🇦✨
It’s been 3 years since this interview and still no evidence of mass graves.
the investigation is on going still. so far 51 have been uncovered by 215 were apparently detected by a radar. its a long process because forensic research takes a while and they're trying to figure out what exactly happened.
EXACTLY!!!
Google it.
There's a plethora of evidence actually and more every year.
@@stuppittyhed um zero proof .. where is your proof ??
Maybe a plethora of no evidence..
Wow this was really awesome.Thank you Ken for delving into this. I am sending this to my teenager who tries to use “we are horrible children killers” as an excuse to not follow our faith. This was so great at seeing both sides and not placing blame or animosity.
All you so-called Christians are trying so hard to use this story to get you off the hook.
Wow, great interview! “There can be NO reconciliation without the Truth.” So true. ❤️✊🙏
This is great! I am not Canadian but I find that Fr is so sincere, straight forward and is very precise and correct. He has made an outsider like me understand what was being highly discussed in my circle. Thank you Fr.
What a well spoken and brilliant Priest.
Thank you and May God Bless you, Father.
The biggest mistake of the church was to apologize for unsubstantiated claims against them.
It didn't help that Trudeau immediately donned sackcloth and ashes when the "news" broke from Kamloops. No proof of ANYTHING and he's falling all over himself in apology of Canada's wrong doing, ordering flags to half-mast to months on end and throwing more money to various tribes to support investigations that have never been done.
Everyone rushed to virtue signal. I spoke with a very senior military official who is indigenous- in a quiet tone privately. I served with this person in Afghanistan. outstanding individual. That person and their family had a positive experience at residential schools. You can't speak up against the narrative.
This priest is very articulate. I had the honor of being friends with two elders at one point in my life, who went through the residential school system in the 40's and 50's, and they were solid Catholics until they passed. But the things they told me were different from what most people aay about the schools now. They enjoyed them. And while they were jot perfect, they weren't as bad as many now make them out to be. I think the reason is that its easier to blame others for problems than it is to find solutions and focus on the good. And in addition the news of these mass graves was so emotionally disturbing when it came out. But we all took it as truth. And now that it is coming out as actually being lies, the media needs to write about it, so that people can come back to their senses about the relatively solid history of Canadians being a good nation of good people (overall).
Thank you for this. Your words actually made me cry. These truths must come out.... Otherwise there will be no reconciliation.
Having connection with priests from OMO Lacombe, I had conversations with several , who have passed in recent years and for whom this discussion would have meant so much, about their memories of the schools built by the government where the OMI had long been working with indigenous groups. And I will always remember a newspaper article where a woman and husband had worked as cook and caretaker at a residential school, and she once had remembered with fondness about what they considered to be the good work they had done there, the extras they had shared with the children and comfort given to the youngest and scared. Once the first story about the "mass graves" came out when she tried to speak about some good that was done, admitting that she didn't know about abuse, but she would wait for more news, since she wasn't there till the school closed, she was lambasted by acquaintances who said she must have known and why didn't she stop it.... and she now felt that whatever good that they thought they had done, was not and never would be seen as good, and she too would be tainted in the horrific stories that have come out.
That's so sad 😢😢😢. I hope she's been able to see and hear the truth of it all. 🙏
i think the strict discipline during that era could be considered abuse by today's standards. but that was not limited to indigenous people. also, meticulous student attendance records would have been kept, and certainly deaths according to catholic tradition; records that could be compared to those from indigenous communities. if the records don't match then you start digging.
@@carlosgaspar8447 Not the Era, It all depends on the Teachers, and THE LOCAL BANDS.... Just Like today's Educators.... Just Look at Carlton Ontario...
@@carlosgaspar8447 That's one part of the story I've never understood. Records existed and still exist, I'm sure, of student attending the schools. Not just records, but also people's understanding of their own families and communities. If thousands of children died unaccounted for, across the whole country in numerous provinces, it's quite difficult to believe such a thing would remain so quite for a long time. It's true that some indigenous will say there were rumours of some child disappearing at a school, but those kind of rumours sound more like imaginative stories kids tell, than accusations being reported.
@@chrisloftson6705 perhaps some of what has happen is due to what we perceive as reality vs what we imagine; and the two are sometimes difficult to distinguish, and it's been shown that most people can be made to believe "imaginations" and then after a few attempts be shown they were false. that's the only way i can come to terms with this given most of us are well educated these days. like a form of hypnosis.
in catholic countries where i'm originally from, it's the catholic church that meticulously records births and deaths. those records are then passed onto city hall. i seem to recall that phil fontaine had already dealt with this issue in the 1990's but yet came out of "retirement" to put his name onto this falsehood.
Don't you have to actually find remains of a body for a site to be considered a grave-site. The specific figure of 215 is also a fantastic claim.
It sure as hell helps. How do you distinguish between a graveyard and a decayed orchard? The site in Kamloops was historically an apple or cherry orchard. Funny enough, an orchard layout andna graveyard layout are about the same spacing.
What he says about some Indigenous people having enjoyed and appreciated their time at residential schools is true. One elder told my grandkids that exact thing...she was thankful her parents had taken her to the school, and felt it saved her. She talked of people taking their kids to the school for medical treatment as well, When my grandchild spoke this in class (and Indigenous studies class) she was told that it was not true....that either the elder was untruthful or my grandchild was lying!!! You are not allowed to question this narrative without being on the receiving end of accusations of being racist.
Disgusting that she was treated that way. The poor chidren aren't even allowed to speak truth.
Just the fully programmed and separated from their culture would say these things. It's called Stockholm syndrome.
The result of spinning a narrative without evidence. However, testimonies of all and not just the negative ones are a witness to the whole picture. I feel sorry for that young student.
In my own experience as a child of a residential school survivor and am myself known as an intergenerational survivor; I've done a lot of healing and research on Residential Schools in hopes of finding some kind of answers. I found the "school " was part of an experiment as well. Siblings were separated, as were my mother and her sister were ; and were treated completely different. While my aunt had a positive experience where she was treated well and had opportunities for learning my mother was treated abusively. ..I saw this difference in both. Not all people had positive experiences
"Felt it saved her". Saved her from what? In 2024 at the age of 90, I can only conclude we need to understand and promote Indigenous knowledge of our environment and their sense of community and compassion.
Thank you for this talk. A few topics, that have never been proven and that the Govt. & main stream media have promoted in the last few years, have caused division & hate in Canada, and this is one of them. This interview is valuable and should be shared.
I believe the Canadian government allowed the Catholic Church to take the full blame to take the focus off of them. The government enforced the boarding schools when the government took the children away from their families as they also did in the US to impose assimilation. The Catholic Church was only one of the churches that offered to participate in a program that was already implemented by the government. I believe they felt that they were trying to do good in a bad situation & convert the children. Unfortunately 500, million people died worldwide of the Spanish flu & yellow fever took thousands in North America/Canada at the turn of the century. Living communally, also made the spread quicker in close community living conditions.
@@maureen9115 Note Spanish Flu ( Bird flu H1N1) was during and after the First War that went around the Calendar in WORLD HISTORY, and Malnutrition was a HUGE Factor both at home and on the battlefields. As With Covid, I ask the Same Question "Died of? or Died With?"....
The Catholic Church had not Pay up their Fair share of the HARPER T&R funding agreement, and this (Kamloops) was used by the Natives to put pressure on the CATHOLIC Church to Pay up. NOTE that All the rest of the Churches involved did.
But The other 3 Churches involved that HAD paid up and still having their churches Burned down too.... WHY??? and Who is going to make reparations to them for the destruction of their Spiritual homes???
Ken thank you for the courage to address this topic. At the time this story broke I wrote a letter to CBC about the use of ground penetrating radar that I used at a cemetery I was responsible for. It was unable to show us anything. They wrote back and agreed but did not change their original story of Mass graves.
If in Manitoba I would love you to speak to our youth
What an intelligent priest. Very well spoken man..
Would it not be a million times better if he were wearing a cassock? Just saying.....
@@cindymay4606 he's a liar and a rapist like most of y'all
@@ognqski Thanks a million...
@@ognqski that's irrelevant.
Hoping this goes viral! Thank you Father Bouvette and Ken for your courage in exposing the truth! Salve Maria and Viva Christo Rey! ✝️🕊️🙏❤️👏👏👏
I know a former student of this school. She has told me that the area these detections were located used to be the orchard, where just over 200 fruit trees were ripped out decades ago. The radar is picking up those disturbances, not dead children.
"GPR is one of the best methods to map graves because it is capable of measuring both physical and chemical changes in the ground in three dimensions; therefore, depth as well as the spatial distribution of graves can be determined" (p. 65).
they would know that its an orchard because orchards have a different chemical composition than human bones.
www.gpr-archaeology.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/graves.pdf
Very interesting and touching interview, not only for Catholics, but for all Canadians.
For one thing most people are unaware of the existence of Catholic Priests who are Indigenous.
Kudos to Fr. Cristino Bouvette. The word "Anomalies" need not translate to "graves".
One indigenous priest, brain washed. I was born with indigenous blood and didn't have a choice but accept what history that is written .
I was baptized Anglican but without my mother knowing any better
She was brain washed too
@@Myrna-cc4xn Perhaps you can enlighten me: where are the bodies??? What haven't I understood? They haven't uncovered a single one.
It is unhelpful to accuse someone with an opposing point of view "brainwashed".
Thank you so much for this. What a gift Fr. Cristino is for Canada at this time. He is a man of reason during a time of unreason. I think the most tragic part of this is that the indigenous population of Canada has been thoroughly traumatized by this newly invented conspiracy theory about Canada, in collaboration with the Catholic church, building these schools to eliminate them. Very little of the predominant narrative has any basis in reality, and yet indigenous people (most of whom never went to residential schools or have any family who did) are hurting because they think it's true. I really worry about the young people, who were already suffering from a lot of hopelessness, and now they are being told that their country hated them so much it tried to eliminate all their ancestors. That is going to have a devastating effect. To make matters worse, they are now required to re-live this imagined trauma every September 30th, in public, and with a growing backlash. I think our burned churches will be rebuilt long before the people hurt by these lies are able to rebuild their sense of worth. Of course the ultimate tragedy is that both indigenous and non-indigenous Canadians are being driven away from the church by these lies. The Father of Lies found fertile ground here, alas.
Well said
Well done Ken and Fr. Thank you for addressing this.
Prudence. That's the virtue that stands out to me in this interview. I definitely need to employ prudence when discerning headlines or any story in today's media. God bless everyone and may the souls of the faithfully departed through the mercy of God, rest in peace 🙏🏻✝️
One aspect not discussed is related to compensation. This claim of 215 children resulted in an unrestricted flow of federal funding and the push for outlawing denying residential school deaths is ensuring that the tap is not turned off.
This has made me feel so much better. I don't feel so alone in my belief in this matter. You have such integrity and courage, sticking to your guns and not backing down for fear of what others will think of you or treat you Fr. I am Indigenous from Ontario. People ( some family members as well ) became/become angry with me when I let it be known that I felt it was all a falsehood . My reasons were as you mentioned and also the question why now ? I can't go to Truth and Reconciliation. It would be as you stated , affirming the narrative of Kamloops. My question..why do we have anger separating us? Why can't we listen and learn. Why can't Truth and Reconciliation be a celebration of our people and the positive strides we have made instead of the negative. We are better than that .
This is an excellent interview. I went to school in the 60-70s. At the high school I went to, there was a residence for students who were too far away to be bussed. Many were indigenous people, because the high school offered them training for their future jobs. No one suffered going there. People nowadays do NOT understand that there were huge differences in how to actually get students educated, even back in the 1960s. Many people live in more remote areas , and the roads in those areas were sometimes nonexistent. ***Why do today’s citizens have to pay and make exceptions for past generations? We didn’t do anything. And why do indigenous people always call us racist? If they don’t have the life they want, with all the government help they have it’s their own choice.
Thank you for this. Yes, indeed...
you did not attend a residential school. if they did that open in front of citizens we probably would have lost our shit about it.
He literally said he did.
Well done!!! Thank you so much for this clarity and honesty!
Thank you for posting this. Words do mean things. Truth is essential for intelligent communication.
My question , why have the police not been brought in to properly examine the area ? If there are children graves then people need to be held accountable. All children matter - that is a great statement .
They arent being allowed. Lauren Southern investigated this. No one is allowed.
Last I heard, there was not a single confirmed human remain outside of the marked graves. ALL of the echos on the ground penetrating radar were either rocks or other anomalies.
@@regisbergeron5595 Absolutely. Many children died of sickness.
CBC should issue an apology and Dr. Sarah Beaulieu should be imprisoned
AND there are NO Missing Children from these schools, they kept meticulous records as long as they didn't loose them DUE TO THESE FIRES
The Kamloops band should now be apologizing to the Canadian people.
But they won't.
It has been three years and not a single artifact of human remains have been found.
God bless, protect and keep you both and your people (those in your circles) in His Holy Will and loving guiding arms.🙏
I so appreciate this priest’s articulate explanation of the lack of substance to this deplorable rumor. Unfortunately, many consumers of “news” don’t think critically, they merely react with emotion to unsubstantiated conclusions. As Father asked, how do you reel back that false story? It’s awfully difficult, because who is even listening? But we should try anyway, so thanks for this video interview.
This was life giving for sure!!! May truth, goodness, beauty & reconciliation flourish!!!🙏🏻❤🙏🏻🌟
My first thought: why are they concerned of children since there is so much abortion support???
Prayers for this situation. Now I continue to listen to show.
That is so ignorant. These people never chose to send their children to the residential school and so many children never came home. You all acting like these families just didn't realize that their kids were missing?... Deciding not to have a baby before it's born is not the same as deciding to have a child and then having someone steal it from you because they think they can raise it better than you because they want to eradicate your culture
Every child matters…even the unborn! That’s how I reframe the slogan.
the same couples struggling to start a family are often promoting abortion rights.
Ya ok
@@hughmurris3154 every life counts?
Media is complicit for spreading fake news. The bands involved also must be held accountable for spreading lies. It’s actually pathetic.
The bands continue to spread this misinformation because it is a CASH COW !
Agreed . But Cudos should go to the National Post for publishing stories about the truth of this event some time ago. Other media seem to be afraid.
@@bluenose10 I was not aware that the National Post had published "the truth", thank you .... I will look up.
So so very true.
@@tarem4264 this video is the lie though.
It appeals to racists.
Certainly appreciate both the Ken and Father Cristino for broaching this taboo subject. I think it very brave of both of them. As a retired police officer, evidence was my life for 33 years. The fact that the original story continues to evolve and no further evidence gathering has happened or has been allowed to happen is disconcerting to say the least. As a catholic I was shamed when the story broke, but what am I supposed to feel now? I think this issue has done great harm to Indigenous Reconciliation in this county. The fact that I can't even ask questions without being labeled a denier, leaves me sad and a little resentful. Shame on our sensationalistic media who, for the most part, now remain silent.
How long was this"buriel.of mass children/ people; time was ?
I don't know !
So glad to hear you guys discuss this. Can't wait to listen!
I'm grateful for Fr Cristino's willingness to discuss.
@@Catholicspeaker He's the man.
Priests were actually the ones who developed written versions of some of the indigenous languages that didn't have written forms of their languages. Some of the languages that survived were the result of this.
My wife went to Catholic residential school in the Philippines. The Nuns, some were strict but they were fair. I cannot barely put into words how beneficial this school, this charity was for her.
To God the glory!
Thank you, best thing I have watched on this subject!
Who is paying for the burnt down churches? 😢😢😢
You are with probably church and state. Some of the churches are 501 etc.
@@TheKidneyAndTheStone Will you please expand on your statement ???
@@JCNeylan look into your church finances they still getting money from the state
Your taxes probably funding them
@@TheKidneyAndTheStone You sound a lot like some of the Atheists I know, which some have been PROUD to have seen the churches burned
One thing that has never been mentioned is that if the chiefs actually fixed all of the problems on the reservations, there would be very little use for having chiefs. The present system is very lucrative for the tribal elites.
My dad was in a residiential school in the 60s he said it saved his and many others lives. Kids would show up from the resevstions with broken bones that never beem reset, kids that had been so molested on the rez that they couldnt walk straight, kids would have tb and many times kids would die becasue of the injuries they sustained on the rez. Often the bodies of these children were never claimed, nobody on the rez cared enought to come get them. This is all such hogwaggery. My dad said it was the safest he ever felt was when he was at the residential school. He says hes not a " survivor" but a " graduate". He did say yhe nuns where mean to him though. Also in kamploops people need to remeber it was an indian hospital and again often if kids passed away nobody would come take the bodies. There tribes didnt cqre. This is reidiculous the spin theyve put on this. Of course there are going to be bodies and thanknyou to the church for burying them after they had been abandoned. Thats the real tragedy, how the nations would just leave the kids there.
Thank you for your testimony.
My fear is that the silencing of anyone who questions this story, makes indigenous tribes lose credibility. The fact that they refuse to excavate, looks bad.
What a beautiful, eloquent, humble and compassionate priest. God bless you! Thank you for helping me understand the situation better.
Reconciliation through TRUTH! Love it. Thanks so much for this enlightening video.
I am very thankful for this truthful & unbiased version of the residential school. We are a small community, & my family chose to loose their status, to keep their kids home from the Rez. School, bc their family needed them home in order to run their farm…not excusing anything, but thankful for this TRUTH being brought forward.
The reserve I live on did a probe radar probe where there was a residential school and found nothing and the band reported it truthfully.
I always enjoy listening to Father Cristino. One of my priests i pray for daily.
The truly sick part of this is that "they" know once something is reported, especially worldwide, there's really no reeling it back in. They've done the damage and that's what most will remember. Our current media is absolutely a tool of Satan.
I'll share this in the hopes that my small circle on social media will see and maybe share.
Thanks to you both! 🙏🤲🙏💖
I'm not religious, but the way our media, Prime Minister misrepresented the entire claim is absolutely abhorrent!
And they got $8 MILLION Bucks to DIG~and they bought Pickups Trucks instead. It's Criminal, now.
You're absolutely correct. This is exactly what they do. They create a reason to get a transfer payment. They get the transfer payment and they go spend it. Reparations will never occur until six nations, including the Mohawk the Onondaga Oneida the senecas, the Tucararora and the cayugas ask for forgiveness for slaughtering the Algonquins the cree the metis French the Blackfoot and the Squamish and Salish they must ask for forgiveness. Otherwise like the French say on their license plates, they will never forget
I agree with Fr. Thank you for your clarity. I think it is prudent to not participate in spreading ambiguity of truth from the other side to try to correct the first ambiguous statement.
What the Church should "apologize" for is NOTHING compared to what they are being accused of.
The Church helped educate children. There's no evidence any "abuse" took place. Is physical discipline on kids by teachers abuse? By today's standards it is. But back then, kids were physically disciplined by their teachers all the time.
I don't think the Church has anything to apologize for. It provided help and education for thousands of impoverished children.
Giving these native kids a chance in a changing landscape was a mercy and gift. If they hadn't been given this education, the narrative would be that they were never given equal opportunity.
They didn't found any bones but they burned our churches...then everything was brushed under the rug
The govt psyop worked.🤫
Insightful and convicting conversation; we shouldn’t pass along any information we don’t have the evidence to back up. We need more Truth proclaimed in our culture and more Reconciliation with our LORD! Every child matters ….even the unborn! That’s how I reframe it.
As a retired police officer, I got into discussions with people when this news broke. They called me a racist when I said that GPR was insufficient. A full forensic exhumation was needed for confirmation. I also said it didn't fit the definition of a "mass grave ". I also raised the point that if there were graves, wooden markers would have long since rotted away. Again, I was accused of being a terrible person.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I’ve had the same experience, just for asking questions.
Thank you both for your candid, clear discussion!! This is crucial and STILL hasn't been acknowledged. Its all gone quiet. That speaks volumes to me.
God bless you both!
Thanks Fr. Cristino, very helpful!
The Holy Father’s remarks during his visit to Canada would have been a good part of this conversation. When pressed, he affirmed that this was “genocide”, another well-embraced term alongside “mass graves”.
Also, there is historical documentation of one mass grave in Canada that I am aware of, but its location has been lost. It is where both French and British casualties were buried after the Battle of the Plains of Abraham around 1760 in present Quebec.
Father Cristino is an articulate well spoken reasonable man. Thank you Father for explaining things in a sensible way.
Father Cristino is a good philosopher and theologian. Hearing him for the first time impressed me. I pray that there are more priests like him. Thank God for the truth. God bless you Fr. Cristino. I am a proud Catholic praying for world peace.
What of the Canadian Catholic Martyrs?
💯 1000%
They are never ever brought up. It was so disappointing that not even Pope Francis, when he visited in 2022, did not mention them at all.
Saints Anthony Daniel, Noel Chanabel, Charles Garnier, Gabriel Lalemont, John De Lalonde, Rene Goupil, Isaac Jogues, John De Brebeuf please please please pray for us, and pray for our reconciliation with our Indigenous Sisters & Brothers.
excellent interview..shameful that the Canadian government doesn't excavate to put this issue at rest...they're not interested in clearing the issue up apparently
Kamloops and the Trudeau Federal government fenced in the area. No trespassing signs so no one can dig and expose the fallacy.
I am a person that does not practice in any faith but this conversation has rang very true with my own personal thoughts and beliefs and I will be sharing this conversation. It brings to me, some sanity in this hurricane of words that we are constantly barraged with in today’s world. So thank you.
Thank You! Great Interview , Fr. Cristino is a very wise priest! God Bless!
I do not know the borading school system in Canada. I know about history in Brazil. Brazil has Continental sizes because of its Catholic background.
Boarding schools are not common but the need for one language and one faith is nothing to be ashamed about!
The indians in Brazil were canibals and ate many priests! Is that what they want to preserve? The indians themselves didnt like such lives! They wanted ordely comunities, protection of the weak and most of all a true reverance to the Almighty God!
The question now is: Who is going to pay for the construction of the burned church??? The Catholic Church should demand such reparation!
“Asking questions isn’t denying anything. “ Well said Father.
I'm a Kamloopsian and wondered about this all along. Evident needed. Spreading and prolonging trauma.
Excellent interview and acceptable response to the questions. The church is well represented by Father Cristino
Thank you for this video.
My father and his family came from Germany in 1927. They were expected to speak English, not practice their culture. It was what everyone was subjected to. My father was beaten and strapped because of who he was. It was how they treated children and anyone who was different, especially if they were from another country.
No it's because the controllers of this country didn't like what the fuhr done to their bloodlines.
It was the same for other languages. In Cape Breton, students who spoke Gaelic were punished, and at the time Gaelic was the first language of many entering school in Gaelic-speaking areas. Because of this, parents stopped passing on their language so as not to disadvantage their children. Gaelic was dying out until recent efforts to revive it.
But teaching children to speak English/French was seen as a way to help children from all different backgrounds to have a chance at a better future.
My father-in-law is 94 years old, and he says very similar things. He was jealous of the First Nations kids because they got food, clothing, and school, and he and his German siblings were treated very poorly by some teachers because of the war. This was in Rutland, BC.
Thank you for this interview. I found myself wondering why someone or some organization went to the trouble to enlist high technology to be focused on an apple orchard.
What a wonderfully insightful man! Isn’t it just utterly crazy that no excavation has ever been done, yet so many churches were burnt down. Criminal.
Great interview but no Catholic should be participating in smudging ceremonies, period. It happened at our school and there were no permission forms or letters sent home to inform parents. I'm sorry but I am so tired of having the "indigenous issues" being shoved down curriculum and school activities.
Lol, that's the problem, the Catholic church is steeped in pagan rituals and idolatry.
Thank you Father Cristino. You articulated exactly what I’ve been saying
Thanks to both of you for your time spent on this. Your discussion should have been on the six o'clock news.
I am Metis and I look native and people have asked me that my entire life. I didn't grow up in the culture. It's fairly far back in my family and I don't know a lot about it. I just generally consider myself to be anglophone in culture. at my work. We were told to wear the orange shirt. I didn't. And I just said, I forgot that it was today. But I really like the priest's take on having Our Lady of Guadalupe on an orange shirt, because I do work at a Catholic retirement home in the Catholic spiritual services department. It's complicated, but he just made it easier.
Thanks for sharing.
The abuse that happened in the residential school's should also be taken in context - public school's in Canada back in the day would use the strap on kids who misbehaved up until the early 80's and that was completely acceptable - kids misbehaving was NOT TOLERATED. Residential schools took in kids from alot of really abusive and dysfunctional families (part of the reason why the government placed them there) so lets just say those who worked in these school's had their hands full!! I met several native's who went to these schools and some of them swore it saved them from a far worse situation. I don't deny that abuse took place but alleging that the Church tried to commit genocide and murder is gravely slanderous. Excavations were done on some of these alleged areas of mass graves and NOTHING was found. Such horrendous accusations warrant solid evidence PERIOD!
Lies
@@alfredamodeste7250 What are the lies??
@@alfredamodeste7250"GRAVE ERROR"..Yes, there are lies..
I attended public school in the 1960’s and received the strap from the school principal many times, in every grade. First time in grade 1 for lighting matches in the coat room and the last time l was in grade 8, for throwing snow balls on school property.
In high school they stopped hitting us.
I was to learn later my parents were aware and gave their permission for the discipline.
@@howiemicks5603 Wow thanks for sharing! I forgot how strict the public schools were for the slightest offence LOL!! Can you imagine the OUTRAGE kids these days would have if it happened to them?? School's would be sued out of existence! Which is basically what they're trying to do to the Church go figure.
The residential schools issue is a complex, nuanced sociopolitical matter that has been reduced to a single dimension for easy public digestion to promote a certain narrative, and fuelled by various motives, not all of which are conducive to truth and reconciliation, to the detriment of the country, and which also disrespects those who actually lived it. The people behind the Kamloops claim have done all of us, including the Kamloops band, a great disservice and have caused immeasurable harm.
I live in Prince George, BC .The indigenous are saying that they did not say that and that it was all the media who made it up
Of course they are, now that no graves have been found....
Then they shouldn’t have accepted the money and they should have spoken up against what the “media” was saying. The media didn’t organize indigenous marches and create holidays and cancel Canada Day and create vigils for these murdered children against the wishes of the indigenous people. The media surely played their part in spreading/exaggerating this, but the cameras are pointed at indigenous communities and what they are claiming.
If there are graves-where are the bodies?
Focusing on the now and future is the way we should be toward all man kind. Taking great care to live as Jesus wants us too. Thank you for this video!
Some politicians in Ottawa want to make it a criminal offence to deny residential school “genocide”.
The initial story by the mainstream press was so horrific it had to be true and dealt with. Let's get the bastards involved including the four hundred and thirty parents that remained silent and the eight hundred and sixty grandparents who never reported this to the press and the editors of every major news source that never followed up on certainly at least one tip that hundreds are children are being murdered and the chiefs who kept this secret or the indigenous MPs who never spoke out in Parliament and let it continue for a hundred years and the civil servants who never stopped the payments to these dead children. Justin's father was Prime Minister during the sixties scoop as they call it. Why is there an airport named after this man connected to the mass murder of children?
But lets not forget Chief Murray Sinclair, a Judge and Senator who authored, Truth and Reconciliation. How could he not know of thousands of murdered children and never bring it to light. All these secret keepers are guilty of major federal crimes. If we can't investigate the deaths then lets investigate the cover up and start sending the living conspirators to jail. Why hasn't the Trudeau estate been seized for compensation of future litigation for the thousands of murdered children Pierre Trudeau supervised?
Remember, it could be unlawful to consider this a hoax so lets play along and send the living chiefs and politicians to jail.
I am a New Zealand Catholic, who for several years worked as the District Sexton in an area including southern Auckland city. I have done reopening graves and several disinterments at the request of families. I am appalled that no one has opened any of these graves to confirm that burials of children actually took place there. Why was this not done?
Because there isn't a grave.
Because it is a "narrative" serving a political purpose, and the powers that be do not want evidence that contradicts this useful fiction.
It's an old apple orchard that was recycled into a septic tank bed.
Who wants to dig there?
Because a convenient cover up and apology is easier than showing that some of the people of that time were racist murderers.
You forget that the Indians now claiming that there are 215 unmarked graves of murdered Residential School children at Kamloops (and the ones claimed and reported elsewhere later) also claim that this was just confirmation of what they, the Indians, had already always “known” as part of their traditional knowledge keeping. This special knowledge keeping by natives is now privileged above any other sort of knowledge or information and is sacrosanct and must not be questioned according to modern “Progressive” thinking on this subject. How does one set the record straight when questioning such sacred “ knowings” is constantly called denialism and anyone described as “guilty” of it is made out to be some extreme right-wing fanatic whose word is not to be aired much less given the time of day?