Camera Comparison: Nikon D850 vs Sony A7RIII
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Debating on whether or not to get a Nikon D850 or a Sony A7RIII?
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Let's see between the Nikon d850 and the Sony A7Riii I'll take Megan for sure.
She won't take you though
Best DSLR.... D850!!! Best Mirrorless.... A7rIII!!! Win Win for both!!!
Desi Boyer basically
It is hard to go wrong...
nope A7III is just hype with great tech but awefull ecosystem
A little surprised you didn't use 'eye-AF' in continuous mode for the approach shot as it is truly amazing. I like the smoother images of the the Sony (I presume these were jpeg files) but I should imagine that in RAW they would be an even match with a couple of quick adjustments.
agreed
He's probably didn't know the camera well enough to use eye-AF. Eye-AF in continuous is very important when shooting moving model.
We actually spent about an hour trying to figure out how to activate the option in the menu (it was greyed out). Jay P later told me it has to be programmed as a button? Didn't make much sense to me, but at any rate, we gave it a good try! Shame we couldn't figure it out on the day. Shame Sony is so terrible at functionality design.
Again I am surprised at this. Eye AF is by default set to the centre button of the control wheel but most people will move it to another button (in my case I have it set to the AEL button and the button on the lens). I would very politely suggest that a little research and looking at the manual would show you how one of the main features of this camera works. Sony's Eye-AF is probably the best out there and actually really easy to implement and important feature to be discussed in any review
Why did yoou skip over eye-auto focus on the A7Riii?
Thank you guys! I am a Sony guy through and through. Saving my pennies - or maxing my CC - for this A7RIII. Thank you!
Happy to help, John!
Finally someone created good video. thank you! im so tired watching 10-15 videos and getting 0 info.
Dont worry in 3-4 years canon will come out with a new 3 year old camera. Just like they did with the 5d4 and 6d2
Yeah... If I were to recommend a DSLR to someone getting into photography it would be a Nikon right now. Especially for the higher end models.
Rubi Doo the 5d4 is a fantastic camera.
martinaee but when they start to buy lenses, oh boy, that’s when you start to miss Canon
Jenny Gavin-Wear, It was behind the 2 year old D810 the day it was released. Canon gimped it just make sure it was not going to take away from a single 1DX sale. Canon doesnt build cameras to drive the market anymore, they build cameras that dont challenge other canon cameras. The 5d4 and 6d2 are PERFECT examples of this
Rubi Doo even my 5d3 doesn't darken exposure for fake high iso, and I'll be shooting while you're changing batteries, lol
Really appreciate your time on this fellas! I think the new 85 1.8 would pair well with that A7Riii if you were looking for a lighter setup. That lens is sharp and AF is really fast!
You should used base iso of nikon for start , skin tones on nikon is pleasing to eyes
The differences in image quality are very small. Until recently, I owned both the A7Rii and the D810. I ended up using one system much more than the other. I evaluated both the D850 and the A7Riii. I chose to upgrade and go with a single camera system based on factors other than image quality.
Just food for thought... 1 min in to the video I see a big disadvantage for the Sony. Using the GM85 is basically going to hinder it's performance with AF. I have this lens and it's basically a studio lens. I don't use it for any kind of motion portraiture. It actually performs faster and more accurately on the R2 which makes me think that some sort of firmware update is in order for that lens on the R3.
This video cleared all my doubts!💯 Thank you guys!!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks guys and girl. I came across this video by accident but I'm so glad I did. I was a practicing photographer for over thirty years after graduating with a MFA from RIT. In the good old days I used the Nikon F systems exclusively. I and my fellow photographers relied on our eyes to focus as well as a lot of bracketing. We bracketed so much that the f stop clicks disappeared. I'm going to subscribe to your site and hope to see a lot more of your features.
You guys were in my old neck of the woods there in Orange. I don't know how long you've been around but back in the 70's to 1998 there was a store in Orange called Adray's that was a bit famous. I worked there in the Photo dept for 15 years on and off. I also managed Olympic Camera in Costa Mesa (near Cal's Camera).
Thanks guys. Really appreciate the reviews and commentary.
You're welcome!
Thanks for this interesting review. One of the great advantages of the Nikon over the Sonys is the haptic. For working as a professional photographer al day long a sony is not comparable in terms of feeling in the hands. Yeah Sonys are small (with some lenses) and good to have always with you and for leisure. But for that I prefer for myself a Leica M. For leisure I do not need an autofocus...
I think you should include some astrophotography in these tests, a camera perform very different in the dark of the night
Sony for me and I'm a Nikon user. You can't avoid video these days.
Exactly
It has been wonderful seeing you guys grow with each camera. Do a first FF mirrorless/first FF DSLR to A7riii/D850 comparison, since they are the best. How long did it take? what has improved? That would be wonderful
Thanks gentle man this video is very informative. I have the question in my mind from past 5 years that if Sony made most of nikon sensors why is the difference when compare nikon images with Sony. I get my answer from you guys but not from Tony northup, Michael the maven, Matt garner, Dustin Abbott. Thanks for the video 💓💞💓💓💓💕
It is because each company has their own color science. Their software interprets what it reads from the sensor and every manufacturer has their own software. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSlantedLens thank you very much for replying 💓💕💞
Great video. I think after commenting on the slight difference between ISO readouts for exposure you should’ve exposed both photos properly and compared them that way.
I think you guys are overlooking the Zeiss Batis prime lenses for the A7R III. These lenses are very compact and with them the A7R III has a real advantage in size. Quality--wize they can keep up with the large GM glass. Huge selling point for me, since there are no such options for the D850.
Let me first say i am clearly on the sony side and owning the a7r iii, But the feeling i get is the sony is in reality the same or close to the D850 if you compare it against nikon features. But the sony doesn't stop there right? IBIS, use of other mount lenses, eye-detect, 10 fps 100% silent mode, pixel shift, much better video, smaller or bigger depending on grip(s) and lenses, EVF with all its pluses, easy switch to crop mode with oversampling for photo and video. So sony can claim its like a D850 but can do it 100% silent, handheld because of IBIS and using eyedetect and if need be with your lenses the walk towards me test would not be a lie right? Nice video all the same the simple fact its not a matter of taste even on basic features is already amazing.
Thanks for the video....great work.
The fact that her hair changes color as you go through different iso on the Sony is a deal breaker for me. D850 images are so consistent throughout varying iso range. Key element when working with a demanding editorial client breathing over your shoulder as you scroll through images on a monitor.
LaughingLion4Ever 1) iso controls the amount of light. 2) human hair shows different level of shades given various level of light.
@ Ihbchen No. iso controls sensitivity to light not the amount of light. It should be linear not changing. Fail.
LaughingLion4Ever ISO does not directly control the amount of light letting in. However to maintain the whole picture being properly exposed, a sensitivity change due to ISO will directly change the incoming light level. TRY AGAIN.
No light is a constant. Go back to school and learn your exposure triangle. I sense a language barrier.
Yea but you wont shoot past 6400 iso
Good review guys!
On my High ISO test, it was the opposite using both the f/4 kit lens(24-70 for sony, 24-120 for nikon), the Sony was actually brighter under the same exposure. But I was using the D750 vs AR7III. Also I prefer Nikon software features better, having stuff like in-camera time-lapse and back illuminated buttons, those are starting to be more important. I want these cameras to have in-camera panoramic and in-camera starstax in $3300 cameras.
Thanks! As always so helpful.
If you mention negatives on a Sony camera, you will be trolled!
Just trying to make you dinosaur snappers realize the Clunky Mirror is dead.
airjaff Sony fanboys are the worst!
Guys have you notice that these days most of the camera companies trying to beat sony a7markiii coz we can get lots of features in budget segment camera see the price difference between nikon d850 vs sony a7 markiii
But sony is sony this days thats why i chosse best in photo and best videos its upto on us how we operate an cameras 😍📸📷
Mega pixels doesn't matter but sony 24 megapixel is enough against 45 megapixel of nikon
Did I miss the ISO 64 comparison?
yes, they did not even mention that. Did they do it in purpose or just because Sony doesnt have it?
They did that comparison but deleted that video
This is a re-upload video
In previous video they did a detailed dynamic range comparison (highlight and shadow recovery at various ISOs) but pictures were wrongly labeled them ...
Now the question is, the best Nikon ISO(64) vs the best Sony ISO(100)......Because I do portraits and that 64 ISO will make you see the heaven
You’re comparing glass more so than Camera body’s,sharpness,light and color differs with each lens. Throw a third-party lens, like sigma or Tamron being equal and than compare the two.
I was tossing up switching to Sony. But after the very first test at 1.15 I'm definetely sticking with the old horse. time to start saving for the Nikon D850!
Nikon refuse to move with the times just like Cannon, both or one will be out of business within the next 5 years, they are making mechanical watches in a digital age so to speak.
Eye detect AF. Only available on mirrorless, and should work amazingly well for moving subjects!
These are the two cameras that I'm considering. They both have their pros and cons. Sony will come out with their firmware update soon which will put their eye AF on a higher level than it already is. Nikon know how to build their cameras and from what I've seen the d850 is solid. We don't know what the a7Riii can really handle yet. I know in one of the tests it got water in the battery compartment. Sony is in the lead with the tech. Not just in their cameras but in the new G master lenses from what I've seen. I'm just not certain of their build quality. If I'm going to spend that much on a camera and lenses I want to know they're going to last.
I definitely see an A7r iii in my near future. Thanks for the review, guys!!
thanks!
Both are amazing, I would prefer the A7 III as I don't do much video. That said, I am waiting to see Nikon's mirrorless offering before I decide to jump ship.
when you've already invested heavily in glass of a certain brand, it's really hard to switch.
You guys can’t compare autofocus performance between these two cameras if you’re not using completely identical lenses. Just because they are both 85mm, doesn’t necessarily mean they will perform the same. Not all lenses are created equal and some operate much slower than others, or miss focus more than others due to varying characteristics. I sincerely hope you guys come up with a follow up video, as this information is critically flawed and misinforming. My suggestion for a better autofocus performance is to use Nikon’s 24-70mm f2.8g lens vs Sony’s 24-70. I don’t mean to sound condescending or rude, but it troubles me greatly when people present and conclude test findings without the use of proper research and methodology.
Great catch Jay. Sorry we couldn't be more scientific with our review. Something to work on for next time. Thanks for your support in the channel.
Both are awesome cameras, it voice down to personal choice and preferences.
Matt Grainger already showed that D5 was superior with 3D Tracking over D850, better to focus yourself
The thing with the Sony's lens size is that you don't have to run the massive lenses. You can put a smaller lens on it and have a nice, small package. I love that about these Sony cameras!! Can never have too much flexibility or options!!
True! Sony's glass is pretty impressive!
Great work guys, when are we to expect a comparison between a9, a7riii and a7iii?
Good question, we will consider that for future videos!
Hey, I resent that remark. Some of us have failing older eyes. AF is very important.
For photography, Nikon does a better. For videography, Sony is what you'll need.
3D tracking of D850 is not as efficient as subject tracking. Should have compared to A7R III in a fair way.
Great point. Something to look into.
2:28 oh my gosh, I legitimately laughed at that
Dynamic range is better? Did you see those pictures? The all the Nikon pictures had much more contrast, which, you know, makes you loose light in the shadows, and overblowns the highest highlights!
It depends on what you're looking for. The Nikon had more contrast which typically means it's more compressed. So it would be better if you're looking for minimal post-editing. But that doesn't mean the Nikon has more dynamic range.
At same ISO the he exposure was brighter on NIKON, despite that lens on Nikon has actual 1.7T stop and the Sony lens has 1.5T. Practically the ISO difference between these cameras is even bigger. Thanks for interesting review.
In raw performance these cameras should be about the same... but Nikon has ISO 64 and Sony has Pixel Shift.
Wait a minute, don't you guys said that you left Nikon D750 and Nikon D810 out of the 3 cameras (Canon 5D MKIII/6D MKII and Sony A7II) you are suggesting because you don't know Nikon system?
I think they should make a mirrorless camera that’s the size of a DSLR and with the extra room, add a lot more features.
Please Canon keep up, I love the colors from canon but their sensors, even comparing the same amount of mpx, are noticeably softer than the competition, especially as far as video quality, and it’s a shame, because they brought video onto dslrs with the 5D mark II
Yes, the Canon video quality is one of the worst in the market (at this price level). And unfortunately, even though I agree with you on the skin tone part, the dynamic range of the 5D series is way too bad. I expect more from a brand like Canon!
Maybe it's not the ISO, maybe it is the lenses' transmission (or T-Stop)?
As a Nikon fan, I have to say that when it's time to upgrade from my d810, I will be looking for a sony. It just looks like it does damn near everything better... only thing i need to figure out is will it fit my hands well. I have huge hands(fan grip a basketball with one hand) so I hope the body isn't too small...
It's a bit small. but the other question would be how you'll migrate your lens collection.
Hallo ihr beiden, habt Ihr nicht mitbekommen dass, zum Beispiel bei 5:57 das Papier bei Nikon nicht White ist und die Schrift Magenta und nicht Black ? Was sagt ihr dazu? Sony ist da viel besser.
Great review. I was going to go with the Sony. This has given me pause.
the expression at 4:20 matches the time sooo well lol
JP...please ask Dynalite to make a Sony transmitter for the Baja strobes...please...
I wish I had that much power!
This is so odd to me. There is no acceptably sharp that isn't perfectly sharp, especially with these newer cameras. On my 5DIII with a 35mm 1.4 or an 85mm 1.4 I can nail focus most of the time using my focus modes properly.
I researched a lot about these two, waited patiently for their release etc.
Honestly, the best camera is the one you have on you all the time (not just when you're shooting). I also knew that focal distance worked beat for me (28mm equivalent) and what i didnt care about (ISO and super fast docus). ISO is dangerous: if the light isn't good, you shouldn't shoot anyways. The only compromise i had to make was a below 24m pixel sensor. To that regards, i ended up saving between $4000 and $5000 and got myself a Ricoh gr ii.
Always in my pocket, allows for more natural photos since you get less attention and dont ruin the vibe / moment of your subjects by sticking such a big lens on their face...
Anyways, for serious amateur street photography. Ricoh is really good. For anything else... those two monsters really kill it it seems
i find new nikon (new is referd to every nikon after d700 , d90 , d3 genration cameras ) produces werid highlights and overexposed highlights , you can see tht in 1.59 time on this video , the yellowish highlights in nikon 850 where as in sony they are smooth from highlights to shadow .
There is something about Sony system never been mentioned or even noticed by reviewers. Of course, people always complaining sony system's lousy menus and control, but actually the real problem is neither the menu itself nor the button layout. The most obvious feature that sony need to improve is the way to toggle between different modes/settings, For example, if i want to change from AF-s to AF-c, even if assigned to one of the custom function button, after pressing that button, there will be a short menu showing up, occupying the entire LCD screen, and you have to scroll though several lines (AF-s, AF-c, MF, DMF in this case) which is, due to smooth action, very slow and very easy to over scroll. There is no way to quickly lock on AF-c with muscle memory. After selecting AF-c, I have to press shutter release once to go back to normal screen to continue shotting. The same goes to changing RAW/JPG, Focus area, WB, on/off steady shot, Full frame/crop mode et al. It requires at lease three sequential steps to complete one change, during which you are not able to frame again, and forced to open LCD screen, since there is no shoulder screen. Whereas, with Nikon/canon system, all you need to do is hold a button (AF mode, WB, RAW, et al) and at the same time push the rear wheel one or two clicks to complete to toggle. In the mean time, you can keep looking through the viewfinder to frame/focus/track the subject, or just look down the shoulder screen, there will be no menu involved in the whole process. I hope sony can get this improved in the future, as this together with slow startup time is probably the last two steps that sony is from a real pro camera as compared with nikon/canon DSLRs, giving the already improved battery and auto focus.
I'm currently using a Nikon D610, been with Nikon for many years. I'm thinking I would love to get a D850 as an upgrade to my D610. But then discovered the Sony A7iii a couple days ago - interested in it, not really knowing much about mirrorless cameras. But it sounds expensive to make the switch and get new lenses. One question about mirrorless -- I hate when dust gets on the sensor. Are mirrorless cameras like the A7iii much worse for dust on the sensor problems than a Nikon DSLR, as the sensor on mirrorless is more exposed during a lens change? How is the D850 for sensor dust? What camera is best for minimizing sensor dust?
you are correct since the mirrorless doesn't have a mirror to protect it, it's much more prone to getting dust on the sensor. since the sensor is completely exposed when you're doing a lens change.
it would be expensive to switch. you could look into getting an adaptor from Nikon to Sony. but the d850 is a better stills camera. but a little bit more bulky and heavier than the sony a7iii. depends on what your needs are.
dust just happens. I wouldn't say a camera is particularly 'best' at keeping dust away. you'll want to check your dust from time to time.
shoot an overexposed picture of the sky or on white, and the dust will appear. there are cleaning products out there that will help you. just be careful because you are dealing with a delicate part of the camera! or you can get your camera serviced.
Thanks. Is there a Nikon to Sony adapter you could recommend that supports autofocus?
For ( IMAGE QUALITY ) purposes can you guys or anyone watching use two sigma art lens. 85 1.4 art for Nikon and a Mc-11 with canon mount for the Sony A7R3. The Nikon 85 1.4G was made in 2010. Anyone with access to gear please do this comparison and definitely a ISO 64 comparisons would be great! Lens expose different and render skin tones & colors different from different companies. That’s why I recommend the same modern high performing glass on both bodies!!! The same Zeiss glass would even do. I repeat this is only in reguards to image quality not autofocus.
Think about the positives! Canon not competing means less work for you guys. Just having to compare 2 cameras is quicker done and less hassle.
Btw: Did anybody get what the models instagram acc is? Couldn't find it...
Great Video! Which lense was used on both cameras?
Did you guys use eye autofocus?
im sitting here thinking if i should upgrade from my d60 and d3000 to d850
Interesting... Nikon and Sony both faked their ISO (manufacturer iso 100 of both cameras = measured iso 70 of both cameras). Looking at the lenses that you used, the Sony 85 f1.4 has a t-stop of 1.5 while the Nikon 85 f1.4 has a t-stop of 1.6, so Nikon should be a little darker... I don’t know why the exposure behaves like this..
Thank you very much for this. This made my decision as I hate the Sony design, interface and the small size doesn't work for me and I am not a big dude, battery is still much better on Nikon and the way the photos looks and stays more consistent. All I miss on the Nikon is the video performance and the eye detection seems to be a great feature. I hope for a fantastic and amzing mirrorless from Nikon and that they will stay at a good size. I will go for the 850, no doubt. Thanks again
Magnus Eriksson Battery is better on Sony 1200 Shots at LiveView.
But the sony images are better...
Dave, for sure not if you ask me.
No that is definitely not true, you know that and who photographs in live view all the time? If you have worked with both cameras I think you would agree that the Nikon is much better for more professional work overall.
It was the same with the Sony on close distance and I would use spot focusing on the Nikon in the same scenario. All cameras have their pros and cons but for professional use on a full day assignment you will like the Nikon more, and look at the design Sony goes for on their grip and interface it's just not very good.
who won ?
A7R3 & A9 I Love them, great cameras
I agree!
Technically, Sony is just so much more advanced. Which gives Sony more focus accuracy and sharpness.
Not to mension the 5-axis IS on the Sony and the Pixel Shift function that comes with it.
Sooo...you did not watch the review then?
Malko the review didn't use the eye autofocus nor did it mention the benefits of 5 axis stabilization or the convenience of zebras, focus peaking,, electronic view fonder. Sold my 5d mark 4 for a a7s3 and can tell you that those extra features do make your workload so much easier and effective.
the IBIS sucks compared to lens IS
no way in hell
Sony is better in the focus, but sadly to do a sensor picture quality test you MUST use the same lens. Preferably the same copy. I think you admit that, slightly. Some images looks to have more info. As mentioned, smooth transitions with info. Nikon Sensor looks too hot, and stays hot in tonal value/Too much contrast.
The Sony rendition looks better on the Sony also. How do you know which ISO is correct? Sony's image does look noticeably better. I think JP spoke a bit sooner than the file fully came to focus on the Sony example he said not being sharp, as it was tack sharp as you can see in the magnifier.
Canon is supposed to have a MF sensor camera. But I'm not holding my breath.
Great video guys...Just try and get BOTH color checkers in focus next time ;-)
The extra exposure on the Nikon could just be because of the lens. Maybe their 85 has better transmission.
why the re-upload???
thanks, this really helped! :)
You're welcome! Thanks for sharing with us :) Check out our newest camera comparisons: ua-cam.com/video/_RUz99lNr8s/v-deo.html
The only true statement in this review was " Canon don't have a camera that compete in this category " (at the time of filming in 2017) and this bold statement that "no photographers know what they are doing anymore" seriously only you then in the world right ? You could visually see the younger chap shocked himself and threw in a grinding joke to help cover the situation. All this said, the video and your efforts are appreciated, i had my eyes on picking up a D500 or D850 but now i see that the Sony might actually more clearer, sharper and have better three dimensional result. Thanks for sharing
Awesome comparison, Got D850 & A7Riii.............No More canon for me
Which one do you prefer for photo..??thanx
That's not a fair review guys. I usually come over to your channel but didn't like it this time.
Now don't ask me why I'm saying it's not a fair review....you already know...& possibly better than I do.
I have used both cameras including the a7rii and kept the Nikon d850....so far the best all round camera in the market.
Love my Nikon but I'm glad Sony is getting better. At some point I feel Sony is gonna buy Nikon. =)
Good info. Are you filming this vid in DTSA or Old Towne Orange?
You left a UV filter on the GM that's why it looks 1/2 under expose...
lordgregz I wanted to point this out also.
You mean a hood?
Or the Nikons ISO isnt correct.. Why blame one other the other and how does it matter much? Just adjust brightness. Also could have to do with the lenses t stop
Not sure what you're trying to say here...
I think that Sony is a little cunning in ISO test and at the "software level" suppresses the noise to look better. Also there is a feeling that Sony is cheating with color rendition improving the image profile. Further investigation of the source files could shed light on these conjectures. In the case of lenses and physics-"yes it can"! A breakthrough in the field of creating flat lenses that collect light throughout the plane without chromatic aberrations will lead to the appearance of small light and flat lenses, as well as significantly improve mobile cameras.
The body weight alone means the Sony is the choice for me, but mine will be paired with the 85mm F1.8 rather than the F1.4, keeping it much more manageable/balanced.
If you ever get a 1.4 lens on sony just throw a battery grip for better balance and grip. You have the option of going large or small with sony, unlike the DSLR competition that is always big.
How would you guys compare the D850 to the A99ii?
Don't get me wrong I like seeing comparison between Nikon and Sony. What I don't like is bickering that goes on. If I were rich I would have many different camera bodies and lenses, but I'm not. It just seems to me the people who are loyal to brand seem to get hurt when their camera has a knock against it and seem to think they have to attack the opposing camera.
I learn a valuable lesson 4 or 5 years ago when my parents came over and showed me pictures of the cruise the just took. There was one picture that my father took of the cruise ship that simply blew me away and the funny thing is he took the picture on his smartphone. While most of the other pictures where just ordinary snapshots this picture was not. My father simply just got lucky in taking that particular picture, but this just reinforces my opinion that it not the camera it's the person behind the camera that determines if it's a good picture or not. Another example is the picture of the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. The first photographer was so ecstatic that he was the first person to take a picture of the flag raising that he rushed down the mountain to get it published or left under the impression that his photo was going to be remembered in the history books. Then the marines thought it would better to have a second flag raising (I think that was the case) and so Joe Rosenthal decided to take that picture. I also suspect Joe told the marines how to pose when raising the American Flag and what they say is history. I also suspect that Joe Rosenthal's camera gear was not in the best of condition and didn't have the greatest weather sealing for after all there was a war going on. ;) I'm no Joe Rosenthal, but I'm happy with my camera (Sony A7R III) and learn it's me that determines if I take a good picture or not. If I own the Nikon D850 then I would be just as happy with that camera and I would be trying to take good pictures with that. One last thing, I also found over the years having good glass is a must, because having bad glass handicaps you even before you get started. However, that is a different topic. Just my .02 cents
hey john, you're right. the camera is not the most important aspect of taking a picture. thanks for your .02 cents.
Certainly one of the more aesthetically pleasing subjects to be looking at when compared to the other 69346547453784 camera comparisons I've watched tonight! =P Thanks gents!
thanks for checking it out! hope you were able to come to some sort of conclusion. have you checked out any other cameras?
I have indeed. Some of which being the Sony A7S II, Fujifilm X-T2, Nikon D610 Nikon D750 & D5500, Canon 760D, D70, D80, D5 MKIII & D6 MKII. Still horribly stumped as to what to buy, not to mention doing so on a reasonably tight budget, will likely end up buying used as apposed to something new with lower specs.
what are you using it for?
It would be primarily for landscape photography and general still images (I want to get more involved in photogrammetry, see links below) but I'm adamant about spending my money on something that does an all round good job at an acceptable price. So a camera that has good autofocus in both video and images, proper video stabilization, excellent low light capabilities, NFC (if no touch screen), and a tilt / fully articulated touch screen are amongst other things at the top of my list. I recon the D750 is a real contender and I can pick one up 2nd hand for R14,000 (+/- 1000 USD) but lacks the touch screen (makes selecting the auto focus SO much better but with NFC, then no prob).
Here's the cameras that popped up when I did a refined search. gyazo.com/4a2fa0f7ebe312c7cce8c54343a421a4.
Here's some random photography I've done with a cheap Fujifilm S3300 SLR (Does an okay job during the day but low light shots are horribly grainy even at an ISO of 200 and 400)www.flickr.com/gp/158627146@N03/59HKpE
And the Photogrammetry examples mentioned earlier. (Something interesting, promise! =D) sketchfab.com/stefanbachrodt/models
i would recommend the a73 if you're doing landscapes. 42mpx are going to look gorgeous.
if you're taking your camera backpacking something smaller like the a9500 would be great.
also that new a73 is amazing if you haven't checked it out. def the best bang for buck right now.
*not sponsored by sony, but they are killing it right now
Sony looks nice I’m so going to get that A7Riii. Don’t tell our lass.
Best camera out at the moment, Sony’s done a cracking job. Killed there A9 range in my opinion though.
I was just about to pick on two Canon shooters reviewing a Nikon and a Sony when you admitted that Canon doesn't have a seat at this table. kudos! Sony has come a long way, but they still have some things to learn about discriminating pro buyers. I wish they would make the body bigger! Just because it can be small does not mean everyone has tiny hands and it should be small.
Buy the grip?
naaaa. Buy the 850.
05:54 how come "ISO 400" label has different color? not black on Nikon.
To me it looks like Sony is closer to natural look, while Nikon is overexposing a tad (shutter speed, not ISO, would provide the clue but you guys never touched on it and stuck with ISO).
thanks for checking our video out. a lot of things are about creative choices. people have different things they're into.
The D850 can shoot just as flat as the sony. You can install LOG profiles. I would not reccomend shooting S log on the sony either. You see horrible compression happening in the color and you are essentially baking the image like that. Not a good idea at all.
You compared these with a g master lens on the Sony? Hmm
Any testing with long exposures and ND filters to test ISO performance on exposures over 1 minute?
Picture exposure
difference on 1:24 is totally the opposite as on 6:46 with the iso test?
Different lens cant show the sensor ability, the Sony 85mm look flat much less micro contrast than the nikon 85mm which is not that sharp nowadays
nice comparing projects but from your tutorial sony a7iii a few steps forward then Nikon this is suggestion
wut
I have both of those cameras merged in one... without the all the bells and whistles though. Nikon Df tadaaa!
Almost a year later and Canon still doesn't have a camera that competes. As someone who shoots stills and video this is a huge disappointment, enough so that I've been selling-off my less used Canon gear in anticipation of switching brands.
We feel your pain.. We love Canon also and hope they can come out with something that shoots video EQUALLY as good as it shoots stills!